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Ep. 80 - Busted Brains & Pretty Tough Questions: Season 8 Recap Trivia
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In this special recap showdown, the Busted Knees and Pretty Trees crew puts memory, pride, and podcast credibility on the line in a no-holds-barred Season 8 trivia gauntlet. From layin logs in Brad's kayak to unexpected wildlife encounters, no story is safe—and no detail is too small to be weaponized. Some answers will come easily. Others will destroy friendships!
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Hello! Welcome to Busted Knees and Pretty Trees. If you're looking to shed the winter dread and take advantage of the fresh energy spring always seems to bring along, you've come to the right podcast. If you're looking to do that and you're a little busted, you've definitely come to the right place because we are quite sympathetic. Thanks everyone for coming along. It seems we've been fooled by the false heralds of spring for the past two months now. And as a Hoosier, born and raised, I should know better, and I feel a little ashamed. Winter had to give us one more frost just days after the ferns were hung and the tulips bloomed. One last kick to the nuts before finally retreating from where it came, flipping us off in the rear view. Like the IRS does around the same time, if you procrastinate, because like myself, you don't like the way your money looks on paper and in sums. Fortunately, I think we're finally in the clear. Unless you haven't filed and forgot to file an extension. I do believe we are in the clear for spring, though. For a few days, anyway. We better get our buns out there while the getting is good, so let's get the tape rolling. I am Travis White. Over there is one hell of a model American, Bradley Greer. Oh, thank you very much. That was one groovy adventure you and Sarah had. Yeah, it was. And I know there are more tales to tell because we kind of ran out of time. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Afterwards, I kept thinking how many things I forgot to talk about.
SPEAKER_03We might have to do an episode. What are the side B sides?
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SPEAKER_03And of course, fellow shirt tucker and master of ceremonies and convoluted questions for today's season eight recap. But unlike previous recaps, he says he's put a twist on the matter. Patty Richardson, everybody.
SPEAKER_01Dude, yeah. I noticed that little tongue twister you laid in on that intro, and I gotta say, my ears perked up.
SPEAKER_00That's how I get Patty roaring. It does. Tongue twisters. He likes that.
SPEAKER_04It does, man.
SPEAKER_00He's just laid into that little thing.
SPEAKER_01He sounded like uh like Eminem or somebody, just rapping.
SPEAKER_03Well, I don't have any more tongue twisters for you, but I do have some. I was short for time, so for now, kind of a placeholder. Gravy's teasies. And they're just quick questions for you guys, so you should answer quickly before the news panther gets here. Cool. I'm in. Brad, name three disgusting things about a nice breezy spring day.
SPEAKER_02Humidity. Uh the wind catches your lens cap on your camera and makes for shady shaky photos. And you get your socks wet and rain puddles. Damn. Oh man. I feel like that's a solid three.
SPEAKER_03That is a solid three. I was hoping you were just gonna say nothing. That's a dumb question.
SPEAKER_02Well, I thought I had to. I thought I was required to answer. Getting my camera lens blown around is that is annoying.
SPEAKER_03I understand. Uh and mine for Patty, he's a little more of an act anarchist than you. He may not follow the rules of how questions are answered. In five seconds or less. Tell everybody what our websites and socials are. Go. Busted damn it.
SPEAKER_01I feel like you were sat down this whole time. Busted knees and pretty trees on Instagram, busted knees and pretty trees on TikTok, busted pretty at blue sky, uh, and bustedpretty.com is our website.
SPEAKER_03All right. Do you have a timer going?
SPEAKER_01No, I did not, but I think that was not much longer than five, right? I think it did pretty good. Yeah, I think it did. No penalties. It's just so hard because talk about a tongue twister. Lord have mercy. It really is.
SPEAKER_02I see why you get excited when you hear one.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. We need to sit down and have a meeting on how we can shorten that and condense that. Jeez Louise. Oh, News Panther. Wasn't sure if he was coming this week.
SPEAKER_02Dude, let's go. Got to turn his mic on at first. Yeah, I was hoping it came before the question of the video.
SPEAKER_01Does he have like a little officials?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, he has a field mic. Lay in, B Rad. Or Walt or First, I would like to make an official statement. Oh.
SPEAKER_03Uh oh. How's it official from who? Yeah, from who? From me. From you? Oh, okay. Yeah. Okay. From the desk of Rad Greer.
SPEAKER_02It's involving it's involving our episode last week that we talked about my Costa Rica trip. Yes.
SPEAKER_03Oh, you lied about something.
SPEAKER_02No, no, no. As I was editing and listening to it multiple times over and over, I realized that at one point Travis had asked me if Sarah was a better trail companion than him. Because we had just gotten back and me and Travis went on a little hike.
SPEAKER_01Yep.
SPEAKER_02And I laid out a few pros and cons of both, you know, uh uh trying to make a biased decision, not non-biased decision. And then Patty straight up said, So overall, Sarah is a better trail companion. And you confirmed it? And I said, Yeah, but Travis still has the backpacking spot because I haven't gone backpacking with Sarah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_02So when I was listening to that, I kind of cringed a little because Travis is my longest hiking partner. So I can never give up hiking with Travis.
SPEAKER_03This is an incredible moment. Gee.
SPEAKER_02Brad rarely opens his heart to just like just like just like uh we spoke about the chimpanzees and grooming being a sign of like kinship and friendship.
SPEAKER_03Oh no.
SPEAKER_02So I got Travis a picture of two capuchin monkeys who he said last week was his favorite childhood animal, and they're grooming each other as a symbolic grooming of Travis for me. Because if you ever call me to go on a hike, I'll always answer the question.
SPEAKER_00Oh my God. And every time I look at this, I'm gonna be like That's meeting Brad.
SPEAKER_03Hell yeah, thanks, man. That's awesome. Sweet. I can't get enough pictures to be hanging up.
SPEAKER_01Pictures of monkeys. I mean, how many pictures do you have of monkeys in your home grooming each other?
SPEAKER_03Uh this will be the first. Nice. You know, surprisingly. But I do have uh, I think I have um I have some otters in Brad. Oh, yeah, you know, little red.
SPEAKER_01Oh, yeah, I know what you're talking about.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, I've got some some of stuff, Brad Steph. It's one of my favorite photos.
SPEAKER_01Well, very cool, Brad. Very cool. Yeah, onto the news story.
SPEAKER_02This is a good man. This is gonna be a good episode. Nice. Uh, this is uh well, I have an uplifting story for you, too. He's doubling down, dude.
SPEAKER_01He's buttering us up for something.
SPEAKER_02Maybe gotta bring cookies too. There could I guess there is kind of a little bit of a dark side to this, but for the most part, it's good.
SPEAKER_01I swear to God, if you wrapped out sourdough cookies out of this package, you'd be like, brought any cookies for you, I'd be like, what the fuck? And you don't get any.
SPEAKER_02And unless you can guess what the story is, you can't get one. Well, did you guys know that giant pandas are endemic to China? And any giant panda that you see in the zoo is on loan from China. Like China still owns that panda. No, I did not know that. Yeah, that's that's a legit thing. They own an animal. Yeah, like they have zoos basically sign a lease, like a loan on we're gonna keep this panda for 20 years. Oh, yeah. And I think they do like a lot of like they have to have correct um facilities to maintain pandas, correct staff, like correct funding and everything to be there, so they know that these pandas will be okay because they have been endangered up until recently, like the last decade or so.
SPEAKER_03They just took them off the endangered list. I thought you meant like I don't know why my mind went there, but China had like a copyright on their DNA. But it's it's more well they've they only live in the sort of do, right? They I mean you own or whatever. Nobody's gonna get unless they smuggle a panda out of there. Well, and then people's gonna know exactly where it came from.
SPEAKER_02So yeah, it's kind of a it's kind of a crazy thing, and they use it as a form of soft diplomacy. Like who gets to how many pandas does the USA get to display in our zoos?
SPEAKER_03Whoa. We're gonna let Canada have a couple more pandas in Mexico.
SPEAKER_02So this came up because this this drives me crazy. Because Zoo Atlanta is what they call the zoo in Atlanta. It's not the Atlanta Zoo. It's called Zoo Atlanta, just announced that they are once again receiving two giant pandas on loan from China. Whoa, so this is only the I think it's three locations in the US, three zoos in the U.S. that have pandas. The San Diego Zoo, the Smithsonian National Zoo, which I didn't ever knew was a thing. Uh they have zoo by Lee and Qing Bao. Is that in all on loan from China?
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Is that in New York or Chicago?
SPEAKER_02You know, I don't know. I meant to look. I'm not sure where that is. Smithsonian? Do they have one in DC? Smithsonian's National Zoo. Oh, Zoo. Oh, DC, it could be. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01So wait, real quick, I have a question. Is this a good thing? Yeah. Like it okay. So this is like conservation. This is you go into this really good home, you breed, you do your thing. Expose people to this beautiful animal. Okay, that's true.
SPEAKER_02Come to China and see them in person.
SPEAKER_01I guess I just didn't know if it was like exploitation. Dumb as hell.
SPEAKER_02No, so well, like so like I said, Zoo Atlanta just announced that they're receiving two uh additional well, because they had from 99 to 2024, they had previously had two giant pandas, so that's 25 years. They had these two pandas, uh Loon Loon and Yang Yang, and they produce seven offspring over that twenty-five years. So I why I think as soon as they have offspring, that offspring goes straight back to China.
SPEAKER_03Is that like one of the big problems? Is they just don't multiply quick enough?
SPEAKER_02Um that could be, yeah. I mean, 25 years and seven offsprings. Yeah, that's not that's really low.
SPEAKER_03Are there babies? Do they need a lot of care?
SPEAKER_02I think they do. I I don't, you know, I don't know. I don't know how it would be compared to like a grizzly, because that can be like two years that a cub stay with their mom. They did call it a part of ongoing panda diplomacy. So from our from what I'm read uh about the zoo atlanta, they've given over ten million dollars for giant panda conservation through the loaning, and I think that money's gone towards infrastructure research and management of the giant panda recovery effort in China. And I think it also part of that's their facilities that they use to keep the pandas. So they did go two years without a panda, and right now they're doing upgrades to their facilities that they're gonna live in. I didn't know that there's that few in the U.S. There's only like six pandas in the U.S. giant pandas.
SPEAKER_01I guess I would have maybe not known that. San Diego Zoo should have probably had a couple.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because if you would have asked me, have I seen a panda in a zoo? I feel like I would have said, Yeah, I'm pretty sure I have. That's true. But I'm pretty sure I haven't.
SPEAKER_03I don't think I have.
SPEAKER_02I think I think I've been thinking about it. I think I did in Hong Kong, but not in the US. How many pandas do they have in captivity over in China? I don't know. No? Yeah, I don't know. I know like these specifically came from a it was like Chengdu Research Center or something.
SPEAKER_01How many giant pandas exist out of the wild?
SPEAKER_02Uh, I think when they were like at their like in their danger, they were down to like sixteen hundred. Wow. So they I know they've recovered well beyond that because they're no longer considered endangered. Wow. So they've made a pretty good recovery. They're not considered endangered anymore? Mm-mm. There's enough of a population in China now. In the wild. Yeah, in the wild. Wow.
SPEAKER_03I wanna what is their I want to know more about them. I don't like their defensive strategy. What look cute and fart?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, because it Well, they maybe not they may not have a lot of predators bigger than them.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_02I don't know.
SPEAKER_03And they can go up in the trees and maybe they can get pissed and dude.
SPEAKER_01Pan panda bears can get fucking pissed.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, I imagine they're still pretty strong.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, fuck yeah. They're not they're not they're not little no. Well, they can fall out of a freaking canopy of a tree and walk away. That'll be fine. Yeah. You know, you see rolling across freaking the energy.
SPEAKER_01Like eating bamboo and falling off shit, yeah. Scaring themselves when they fart.
SPEAKER_03I want to see one that's angry.
SPEAKER_02Oh, hey. Yeah, so that was it. New set of pandas coming to U.S. So if you want to see them in Atlanta. I feel like Atlanta's a good crossroads. Zoo Atlanta, not Atlanta Zoo. That's true. Don't get it, don't search, don't Google Atlanta Zoo.
SPEAKER_01You don't want to see who comes up there, baby. Ooh, yowzers. Dude, if they if their zoo is anything like their aquarium, uh, it's probably fly F, dude.
SPEAKER_02I thought the same thing. That made me wonder. Yeah. That aquarium's so good. Dude, it's so good. Where's that at? Downtown. Yeah. Right by the football stadium. Yep.
SPEAKER_01It's awesome, dude. Very cool aquarium. And while you're there, you can go to Martin Luther King uh Memorial National Park or whatever.
SPEAKER_03I was just about to ask you, like, where's the closest park?
SPEAKER_01You can go to like Ebenezer uh church. Uh you see, when you're down there at that national park thing, it's right where they're buried, I believe. They have the continuous like fountain. Yeah. But then on the loudspeakers, they play speeches that he was giving on that road. And there's moments where you're kind of walking up to a curve to a corner intersection, and you just like could swear that if as soon as you turn that, there'll be just some sweet rally going on. Dude, I'm telling you, it is Ashley Sebastian and I went down there. It is fucking awesome.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that sounds cool. How big is the park?
SPEAKER_01Well, they have like one section that's uh more of Ebenezer Church and some of the places and the different things on the block, and then across the street is a big like visitor center where and it's it's a badass museum of Martin Luther King's life. You kind of walk through it and you see all the stuff that led up to his being assassinated, and then further on, I mean, like it is it's a very, very cool experience for sure. Yeah, I'd like to go do that. That'd be cool. You should. Not that bad of a drive from here either, like nine hours.
SPEAKER_03Uh driving around or through Atlanta is just yeah, people say that, dude.
SPEAKER_01I've never had a bad experience.
SPEAKER_03It's the Midwesterner like experience. Like we're going to Florida, but we gotta freaking get through Atlanta for the time.
SPEAKER_01You gotta hit that car, get up for it. That's the line. Perfect.
SPEAKER_02It's because when you get there, you still have 12 hours to go.
SPEAKER_01Then you hit the Florida line. You're like, yes, we're in Florida, and then it's a whole nother half day. You're like, God damn. Hey dudes, we have a great episode ahead of us. It's season eight. Season eight? Yeah. Season eight recap. Trivia recap.
SPEAKER_03And I am farting excited. Yeah, it's a little bit of trivia. It's been a while since we heard him say farting. Yeah. I think we're in for something. Oh yeah. Let's get into it.
SPEAKER_01All right. Welcome back, y'all. Welcome back, listeners. Welcome back, Brad Travy J, or as I've recently started referring to him as Bradley D. Oh.
SPEAKER_03I did. Every time you have, you've been referring to me as Bradley D?
SPEAKER_01No, you Travis J and him, Bradley D.
SPEAKER_02But it's along the same lines. My middle initial is R, but D for short. Yeah. Yeah, I know, Brad. Thanks for that. Well, it's only I'm getting I'm letting the listeners in on the joke as well. You know the people that we record this for every week? Yeah. Thank you guys for listening. And then Travis Travis J.
SPEAKER_01White. Travis J. White, yeah, that's right. Travis J and Bradley D. I'm back with season eight recap, and I'm super psyched. Go ahead, Brad.
SPEAKER_02That's almost a trivia question for the listeners. My middle name starts with R, but is D for short. What is the what's the name? Dick. God damn it, Patrick. I said this is a trivia for the listeners. You're asking what's short for Richard? Yeah, like listeners reply to us on Blue Sky. Oh. Man, but that's an easy. My middle name starts with the R and is D for short. I feel like that's not easy.
SPEAKER_01I feel like immediately I'd go dick.
SPEAKER_02What about you? Well, that's wrong. It's Richard. Yeah, but I'm You went straight to the dick. I guess I do.
SPEAKER_04Travis just goes, mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_01Likely story. Okay. All right, we're gonna go trivia style for this season recap, and I'm pretty farting excited. Uh Travy J. Yes. That's short for his middle name and ending or not using his last name. What's his middle name? James. Johnny.
SPEAKER_02No, I'm trying Patrick guess.
SPEAKER_03Well, the you you it wasn't truthful when you said short for my middle name.
SPEAKER_02True.
SPEAKER_01Oh, Jay is your middle name. Yeah. The letter J. J. The letter J. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03My parents couldn't afford the other three letters or two letters.
SPEAKER_02They get that period. Is it just insurance didn't cover it?
SPEAKER_03No, not even a period. Damn it. Just J. Homer J. Simpson. That's cool, dude. Homer J. Simpson. That's cool. I'm not so certain he I think it is Homer J. Simpson, but I think it's with a period. I think it is a period.
SPEAKER_01Bros, we're never gonna make it to this period. Let's get going. Trivia night. We're gonna start with episode 71. Okay? That's way back with Benjamin DeTillo. No, we're just right off to the races here. Right. Well, right off to the races. Yeah, you're right. Yeah, thank you. Uh in 1850, paleontologist William King coined the word platistrophia for an extinct genus of brachiopods that lived in Asia, Europe, North America, and South America. In 2007, a couple of researchers established a new genus here in southern Indiana to distinct distinguish these North American brachiopods from their European counterparts. What was the name of this new genus? Oh man. Oh, and there's no Oh get the boards out. Sorry. Are there no multiple choice? There can be, but I'm I have a tough time pronouncing. I assumed there was gonna be multiple choice.
SPEAKER_03I think this one's on the tip of my tongue.
SPEAKER_01While you're getting the boards out, A Lingulaformia, B Vinlandystrophia Ponderosa, C, Abyss or this is why I didn't want to. I was hoping you guys Yeah, these are hard. Did you make some of these up? These are real. These are real. Abyss or Hincia or D a cantho thyrus.
SPEAKER_03If this is a sign of things to come, we're in trouble. This is the hard one.
SPEAKER_01You can't help that Tatilla was ripping out some words.
SPEAKER_02Do A and B real quick.
SPEAKER_01A ling lingulaformia, B, Vinlandistrophia Ponderosa. So a pasta, a buffet. Alright, I have my answer. C abysor Hincia Hynchia or D Acanthaus. All right. What are your answers? We both have B. That's right. Vinlandistrophia Ponderosa. Because the Vikings they came over and they said these are brachiopods. This is a form of genus of it. But they're not the same ones. So they decided the name for us because we all thought that it should be like bourbon astrophe.
SPEAKER_02Isn't that one that he went he spit after he said it, right?
SPEAKER_01The Finland. Yeah, Vinland. Finland V-I-N. Yeah, yeah, and then it would spit every time. Yeah. That was great. I'm with Dr. D on that. I'm going to do the same. All right. In episode 71, again, Dr. Tillo's sidewalk experiment about geological time. Do you remember us talking about? Yeah, it's at PFW. That's the main sidewalk. On the main sidewalk. He has his students walk how many meters to show the total age of the earth.
SPEAKER_02Is this Jeopardy rules? Prices right rules, I mean.
SPEAKER_01What's the I don't know you'll have to if you go lowest.
SPEAKER_02If you go over, you lose.
SPEAKER_01Well, I have uh I have multiple choice. A five hundred feet. One thousand meters is B. B and meters. Yep. Whoa, that's 450 meters or 200 feet. 500 feet, 1,000 meters, 450 meters, or 200 feet. This is the length of the length of if when they walked the sidewalk from the main thing to the other thing, he had them walk a certain distance to show the entire uh age of the earth. The total age of the earth. I got my answer. As do I. What is it? Let's see. 450, 1,000? Brad is right. 450 meters he had walk, and if you remember a thousand meters.
SPEAKER_03Back in my day, we would have done a thousand.
SPEAKER_01Actually, it would have been shorter than 450 by like what? Oh, I was gonna make an age joke, and I feel like I can't do it as well as you guys do. Yeah.
SPEAKER_02Uh, but do you remember what he said that if you put in the That's a like a threat? Yeah, it is. I think he wants us to double down. No, I don't. No, I don't.
SPEAKER_00Okay, Patty. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Okay. Okay. But do you remember what he used as a representation of the entirety of human uh uh life on Earth?
SPEAKER_03Uh just like the width of a human air, some some sort of It was a coin. It was a fingernail dime.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. A dime. And it wasn't the length of the dime, it was the width of the dime. So you'd sit the you'd stand the dime up on end, and how thin that dime is in the entirety of the age of earth.
SPEAKER_02And that's earth, not the universe. That's earth.
SPEAKER_01No earth. In the in that was the length of the entirety of all of human existence on Earth. All prehistoric history, history, everything is within that dime. I wonder what the buildings were.
SPEAKER_02Because we used to go to PFW, and I feel like I'd get a good visual. And they said like Catler in the engineering game.
SPEAKER_01You mentioned them in uh in the episode.
SPEAKER_02Go back and listen.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. He he he gave a pretty good explanation. I can't remember now.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we'll have to listen to that episode.
SPEAKER_01All right, number three, the News Panther segment for episode 70 dose. Oh shit. I'm sure that's how you say 72, had to do with the 38th parallel line between North and South Korea. I'm gonna get this one right. This 160-mile-long, 2.5 mile wide stretch of apparently awesome wildlife viewing is referred to as the DMZ or say it with me now, DMZone. All right. With over 60 years of non-usage, there are many organizations that work to preserve and conserve the wildlife that moved in. What is the name of the organization with Dayson Lee as its director? Is it A conserve and preserve Korea? B keep Korea wild, C the Korean Republic of Wildlife, or D Green Korea United. Ooh.
SPEAKER_02Could you also say A, please? I'll just and D while you're at it.
SPEAKER_01Conserve A is conserve and preserve Korea. B is keep Korea wild. C is keep the Korean Republic of Wildlife. And D is the Green Korea United.
SPEAKER_03Man, I like it's the word when you put the republic in it, I just feel like they're they're probably communists. Well, and the just throwing that in there.
SPEAKER_02And D stands for GKU. So I don't know.
SPEAKER_01I got it. I got mine. Okay, go ahead. D, GKU, A, conserve and preserve Korea. The answer is D. GKU. Uh I don't have much information on the GKU. I uh I forgot to write some stuff about that, but that was the organization that was helping out with the corridors of and the wildlife uh viewing areas. Yeah, they keep the they maintain the trails. Yes. Very awesome organization. Dayson Lee, as I was reading through the episode and the article uh that you posted for us, uh, he is quite the character and had some pretty good statements than I uh enjoy. So I implore anybody that's into wildlife area or history or Korea to go listen to that episode because they're doing some wild farting things.
SPEAKER_02I wonder if it's better to uh view that zone from the North Korea side. Well, we will never know.
SPEAKER_03Is that just that's our next that's our next trip? A uh 100% South Korean organization?
SPEAKER_01No. Uh I wait, was it? I don't think it's all 100% North Korean organized or South Korean organizations. I believe there's wasn't isn't that what Well, I mean, they get a lot of support from outside.
SPEAKER_02Is there any North Koreans? Okay. But it's just like it's a South Korean-based. Because I think part of it is trying to unite the two Koreas back together.
SPEAKER_03Is there any involvement with North Korea on it?
SPEAKER_02I think there's lobbying as in they want to make sure that because you know, that's it's the it's the DMZ, like it's no man's land. They want to make sure that North Korea is not gonna do something to ruin that land as well.
SPEAKER_03Oh yeah, so you probably have you have to have somebody there from the other side watching.
SPEAKER_02At least just lobbying, like saying, like, don't look at this beauty, don't mess it up. And when if they decide to get back together and open the border up, protect that land like we talked about.
SPEAKER_03Yeah. Well hot damn making a reminder of how much we hated each other. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Boys, let's get to roll into episode four because we have two questions per episode, which puts us a couple more questions out of the end. And I'm pretty excited to get to a few of these because a lot of them are not so uh specific. And scores three to one. Three to one? Who's winning? You are? I was gonna have to have answered. Is it like uh who knows a small S to it?
SPEAKER_00Yes, I would like a 1300-word essay.
SPEAKER_01You can write it down, and then Brad starts the TikTok sound until YouTube's done running that sound. Okay, uh, number four, question four, again in episode 72. Uh, me lovey Midwesty. Our ode to the Midwest. The best episode name ever. We got to talking in regards to all the freshwater we have here in the Midwest, from the Great Lakes to the pristine river systems of our neighbors to the north, Michigan. In this segment, Bradley D made a comment stating, and there was a five-pound brick rolling around in my kayak after that. What could possibly have terrified Bradley D this much? This is not a multiple choice question.
SPEAKER_03What was rolling around in the bottom of his kayak?
SPEAKER_01Yes, but not no, no, no, not what caused yes. He was referring to a turd uh when he said brick, but what could have possibly caused Brad to be so terrified?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, to drop a five-pound brick inside my kayak.
SPEAKER_01I got I have my answer written down. And I do I do understand that Brad was gonna know this answer, but I have some more that are favored towards me. That's an interesting it is very interesting. It was it was so funny, and then read like I got all these notes from reading the entire episode. So Brad says that it's like he says it, and then we're both like in the thing. It's like, oh like that's how it's written.
SPEAKER_02I get that feeling. All right, answers. I put the waves of Lake Huron. Yes, that is correct. I had uh I just put a the letter D.
SPEAKER_03It's like a wave.
SPEAKER_01No idea. Brad gets another answer. Guys, there's no winners and losers in my trivia. I just enjoy going through a little exercise of the last nine or ten episodes, whatever it is. You guys ready for question five? Yeah, I gotta catch up. In episode 73, Hunting for Love and Rocks with Debbie Hawthorne and Trevi J. Another great bagger title. Yes. We ended the interview with a rapid fire five questions. Only one of the five questions did Travby and Debbie disagree on. Oh gosh. What question did they disagree on? Now I have multiple choice here.
SPEAKER_02Thank God.
SPEAKER_01A, the question was would you rather find one museum quality geode or a backpack full of agates?
SPEAKER_04B that's where it happened. That's where it happened.
SPEAKER_01Uh B, would you rather rock hound a brand new undiscovered location or return to your for to your favorite honey hole forever? C, would you rather find a rare fossil or a rare mineral crystal? D, would you rather spend a day digging away in the hot sun or chipping away in freezing mountain weather? Or E, would you rather find a perfect arrowhead or a perfect quartz crystal? Ooh. Which question did you guys disagree? The only question out of all of those, which ones did you disagree on?
SPEAKER_02As you were reading through those, I kept thinking, that's the one. That's the one. So I don't know which one it was.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, we don't disagree on much.
SPEAKER_02Only one.
SPEAKER_01I have my answer.
unknownOkay.
SPEAKER_01Okay. All right. E, Brad. E, Dragon? We both did a 3D.
unknownNope.
SPEAKER_01The answer is. The answer, if you would have put your last answer for this, you would have been fine because you wrote the letter D. Ah and the answer D.
SPEAKER_04Correct. Oh, you're right.
SPEAKER_01You guys, out of all the questions asked in the Rapid Fire five questions, the only one you disagreed on was would you rather spend a day digging away in the hot sun? That was Debbie, or chipping away in freezing mountain weather, and that was your answer.
SPEAKER_02Well, that's good. That means Travis hasn't been stewing on it this whole time. That's right. He didn't even remember it.
SPEAKER_01Debbie, you can rest assured he has not been holding this against you.
SPEAKER_03I said that I would like to be chipping away in freezing weather.
SPEAKER_01I believe it was. Well, it I will admit that in the uh on the um transcript, it doesn't really give a specific I was just basing on that, on like the like next five paragraphs of statements. You know?
SPEAKER_03You know, you should give that to me because I think this question was sorry.
SPEAKER_02Well, if he gave it to you, you have to give it to the loosey-goosey. Because we got we answered, we put the same answer to the. Yeah, you may have come together on a decision, but you disagreed.
SPEAKER_03Oh, okay. So what happened is we initially disagreed, and then you came out at like a little beat.
SPEAKER_02Yes. What'd I say? What did you say? What's the score, bro? Four to one.
SPEAKER_01Four to one be read. Question number six. Again, in the opening introductions of episode 73, Hunting for Love and Rocks, with Debbie Hawthorne and Travy J, Brad stated Andy Dufrain used a pickaxe, but what kind of pickaxe was used? Oh, what kind?
SPEAKER_02This also tells if you pay attention to our group text.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Because I just sent a video of Andy Dufrein's a. Yeah, saying he was a rock hound.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Uh A, an almost pickaxe, B, a pretty much pickaxe, C, a damn near pickaxe. This is bullshit. Or D, a matic pickaxe. Wait, what? You I'm going based on our episodes. I'm not going based on whatever else. You made a funny statement in that episode that we all made fun of. Oh, okay. And it was it was funny then.
SPEAKER_02Say it again. I think I know it's funny.
SPEAKER_01What kind of pickaxe was did Brad say that he used? Was it an almost pickaxe, a pretty much pickaxe, a damn near pickaxe, or a matic pickaxe? I got it.
SPEAKER_02That's funny as hell.
SPEAKER_03I'm basing my answer off of my what my reaction would be to each one if you're. Brad said it. So I don't know if it would be right or not. Alright, what is it?
SPEAKER_02A? I put damn near. Damn near.
SPEAKER_00It was damn near.
SPEAKER_02It was damn near a pickaxe.
SPEAKER_00It was a rock hammer. We went on like a 20-minute diatribe of him saying damn near, dude. I was thinking Brad would say he goes, damn near. Damn near. I go, it was damn near that. It was damn near not that.
SPEAKER_03That's what I was trying to play the conversation out in my head. And I was thinking, oh, he you said it was like an almost pickaxe. I was like, almost, that's damn near a pickaxe.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, okay. So now you got to get the gist of the full spectrum of the questions. That's why I wanted to get through six because now you kind of understand the whole thing, the whole gamut here. All right, question number seven. In episode 74, the grand introduction of the official trail trivia board game adventure challenge prototype. Oh man. Both Bradley D and I rolled a dice to move through the trail and eventually, eventually reach our treasured Subaru. I had the honor of rolling first and rolled a two, which gave me plus two stokage for observing a most majestic creature. What did I first observe on my first roll? Was it A, a raven, B, an arrowhead stuck in my butt, C, a common skunk, or D, a freaking lumbering giant of a beast.
SPEAKER_02I love that you could have observed an arrowhead stuck in your butt. Observed it. I was just trying to find things.
SPEAKER_03I got my answer. I'm not sure what it was. I think there's a point where you hit like you had two in your butt.
SPEAKER_01Travis B, an arrowhead. But A. Brad A, a raven head A. I remember it being a bird. Yep, it was a bird. Right off the rip, and I got plus two Stokage, bro.
SPEAKER_02Because I thought somebody was gonna say a talk about the curse of the raven that I got because he saw a raven. Right. And then it was maybe my raven. I forgot about the curse of the rain.
SPEAKER_03Well, I think you got the you got the question right, I think. So you didn't get curse. I think there was a curse. And he got if you got it wrong. Oh yeah.
SPEAKER_01You don't want that. I remember how excited I was going to be up to 102% stokage, and then quickly dropped all the way from there the entire part of the game. I was pretty stoked. You were stoked, dude. But I made it to the boo-baroo first, so and I waited for you because I took a nice long resty poo. Question number eight. In this same episode, not long after I observed that raven, I ended up coming across a couple of fun loving rock hounders for plus ten stokage, bro. Damn, pretty cool. But not long after that, Bradley D finally observed his most elusive of all avian variety, an owl. How many stokage did Bradley D get for a while? I remember he was bitching about it. Yeah, yeah. Was it one? He was bitching about how not stoked he was about seeing this. Well, this is this is when we find out found out that the game was tilted towards rockowns. That's for sure.
SPEAKER_02Tim Ted Poist just for seeing rackowns.
SPEAKER_03You know what? There was only one rock hound, two rock hound references in them.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, but got they bridge for 58 stokage or something, dude. Uh was it one, three, eight, or ten?
SPEAKER_02Oh, the the amount of stokage is for the owl. Owl stokage.
SPEAKER_01Yup that Brad got for witness observing the owl. All right. I'm drawing my answer. And I have it. Okay, show it up. Three. Three? Nope. Wait. Yes, it was three. Answer B. Sorry. Yes. B. Damn that. That's right. You guys both got it. It was three, and it that, like I stated before, that was the moment we found out that this game was tilted away from birds and into rock hounds. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03But now that it's been laid in front of me so crystal clear. Maybe we can move buff or what do they call it? No, I enjoy nerf some.
SPEAKER_01Buff the birds, nerf same rocks. No, I enjoy this. Nerf the rocks, your game, and you do whatever you want. I'll write it down.
SPEAKER_03Nerf the rocks, buff the bird.
SPEAKER_01All right. Question number nine in episode 76. Hammock's here. We're talking hammock.
SPEAKER_02Man, the best title episode titles.
SPEAKER_01Let's go. We spend the entire episode going over the ins and outs of hammocks and hammock accessories. For starters, we covered the two main designs of hammocks. What are their names?
SPEAKER_02I'm still laughing at hammocks. We're talking hammocks here.
SPEAKER_03Two main designs.
SPEAKER_01A bunch end and built-in. B balled up and exoskeleton. C gathered end and bridge. Or D, bound end and trestled.
SPEAKER_02Go through those just like real quick, rattle them off real quick.
SPEAKER_01Bunch end and built in, balled up and exoskeleton, gathered end and bridge, bound end and trestled. Alright. I got mine. Got your answers? Bunch end, belt. Travis C is gathered and bridged. That's right.
SPEAKER_02Gathered end. Man. Once you said gathered and end, I was like, oh fuck, yeah, it is gathered end. Yep.
SPEAKER_01C Travy J gets a point.
SPEAKER_03Cool beans, dude. What's the score now? I know we keep it. Five and two, I think. Six. Five two.
SPEAKER_01You still have time, bro. And the last question is worth a ton. Oh shit. Because the last two questions, I will say, are Costa Rican based, but I knew that Brad was going to be able to answer all the questions because he's the fucking guy that went on his trip. So I felt like there was a little that was a little bit rough. So in instead of giving trivia questions based on that episode specifically, I did trivia questions on that region. The island or then. We'll get into it. We'll get into it.
SPEAKER_03This episode, I think, specifically is burger biased.
SPEAKER_01Tough shit. Yeah, revenge. Hey, Brad, it's plus 25 stokids. Just for saying tough shit. Have fun. Although you do frame as a rock hound. Yeah. So that's also like plus 5,000 stokids.
SPEAKER_02That's like he's the rock hound. He put the hound and rock.
SPEAKER_01Who he did put the hound in rock.
SPEAKER_02He's in fucking prison and he's rock hounding.
SPEAKER_01Dude, that you haven't rock hounded from prison, bro.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, that what a nightmare place to be.
SPEAKER_02That would be. Yeah, you had to hit like hit up the chain gangs that are going outside to find them bigger rocks. You get your ass beat for digging just a little bit.
SPEAKER_01Question number 10. Like I was saying, we talked not just of the hammocks themselves in this episode, but also of The accessories. One important, potentially life-saving accessory was the underquilt. I have a statement on that. I tried to make a question out of those atlas straps, but I just couldn't find like a good way to get it. One important life-saving accessory, potentially life-saving accessory, was the underquilt. Guess the abbreviation for one for what one might suffer if not taking into consideration how cold that sweet breeze can get at night. Is it A P B S? Abbreviation? B D O B. Did you say P B S? P B S. C. C S N. D. C B S. Damn it, Ben. I was adjusting.
SPEAKER_02P B S, C B S. What was the second one? I was adjusting with your volume. And I didn't catch the question at all.
SPEAKER_01AO. Guess the abbreviation for what one might suffer if not taking into consideration how cold that sweet breeze can get at night. I got it. P B S D-O-B-C-S-N or C B S. I got it. Perfect. Let's see. Well, we'll wait for Travis just a second here.
SPEAKER_02It's so funny. Because I remember him making a joke about it too during the episode. Cold butt syndrome.
SPEAKER_00Cold butt syndrome. CBS, baby. CBS.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's right. D cold butt syndrome. And I just want to just if you're if anybody's out there thinking of hammocking, you should really think about an underquilt baby. My name's Patrick, and I've had cold butt syndrome. I have had cold buttons. This is a medical that's that's what people call them.
SPEAKER_02Dude, I mean like if you don't have a quilt, it's a medical condition.
SPEAKER_01All joking aside, for sh like if you think you're gonna go out to the backcountry with no safety, like whatever, and you think you're gonna hammock with no underquilt, you are doing your you are in trouble. Yeah. That is for sure. So your body's not the same. I can't imagine. Miserable. Question number 11. Travy J and I had the privilege of being able to interview Dr. Jordan Marshall from PFW on episode 77, studying plants where they fight to grow with Dr. Jordan Marshall. In the episode, we had all sorts of fun and discussed super interesting topics like invasive plant and insect species, how forests bounce back after disruption, and what it is like educating the future of conservation science and biology. One topic stood out to me above the rest, and that regarded the Derecho that tore through Fox Island. Spell the word Duracho.
SPEAKER_02Oh man.
SPEAKER_01Oh man. I'm doing this every season. I'm having the most fun. I'm on my third beer, bros.
SPEAKER_02Oh, watch out. Dad Pat's getting crazy. Pat Dad.
SPEAKER_01Pat Dad, all right.
SPEAKER_02Spell the word Duracho. This is an acronym, right?
SPEAKER_01No. No. No, it's the word for a storm. Duracho with two E's. Duracho's with a UA. Travy J gets it. It is Duray Cho. It is a. Okay.
SPEAKER_03If you could have said it like that, why didn't you say it like that to begin with?
SPEAKER_00I guess it doesn't translate audibly, doesn't it?
SPEAKER_03You wrote Duracio, not Derecho.
SPEAKER_01Travis, would you like to uh uh spell the word out for our listeners? Uh Derecho.
SPEAKER_03Delta Echo Romeo. Oh my god. Echo Charlie Hotel Oscar.
SPEAKER_01Thank you very much. That is D-E-R-E-C-H-O for all you non-military folk.
SPEAKER_03What's that? How'd you know how that's spelled? I had to study for a guest we had on the show.
SPEAKER_01Oh. See, I told you that I had it. I knew that there was some skewed.
SPEAKER_03Honestly, I thought before I knew how this was spelled. Because it's so hard to when people say it. I thought it was like Duracio. Like I had D-U-R. Yeah. Yeah. And then when I saw that, I was like, okay. Dare right, Derecho. Derecho.
SPEAKER_01As Dr. Jordan Marshall did state that uh that is a very strong sudden burst of wind. When you look it up, it's more it's called Derecho Storm. So what Fox Island and other places in Indiana, what happened was we had a huge just burst of wind come through and just dismantle a local area of ours. So uh so he studied that dis disrupted.
SPEAKER_02Disrupted.
SPEAKER_03Is that what is it he studied invasive species and disturbances or disruptions?
SPEAKER_01Disrupt Jesus. During that episode, that's the thing Brad noticed because he kept saying it one way and I kept saying it the other way. I'm pretty sure when I was going back and reading the transcript, he used the word disruption. Okay. I also could have just been seeing what I wanted to see.
SPEAKER_02Yeah, like and I see yeah, I still don't remember.
SPEAKER_01Fantastic episode, though, with he was a great guest, and also, but just like if you're from this area and you remember that incident, or you're just he gave some damn insightful, like kind of rhetoric towards just how forests want to be forests. Yeah, I it's just really good.
SPEAKER_03And it was cool to find out that he studied those things that actually we had an experience with. That's right. And I didn't know anybody even would study something like that.
SPEAKER_01Dude, see senor, because I think I made it, I made a comment in that, like, oh, I wonder what what happens here when this tree's down. Yeah. And it's down for millennia. And we've all seen trees of all the different ages.
SPEAKER_02Do people even hear it when it falls? I didn't ask him that.
SPEAKER_01Damn. That's why we needed Brad. That's our third, dude. That's our third. Brad comes in with those hard-hitting questions from him. Damn. Damn, that was good. I'm embarrassed. All right. Later in this episode, episode 77, studying plants where they fight to grow with Dr. Jordan Marshall. We got to chitty chatting further about disruptions or disturbances. Someone asked whether farmland would be considered a disruption. During Jordan's answer, he that was me. He said before European settlement, 85% of Indiana would have been forests. He goes on to say, over the matter of 70 years from 1800 to 1870, we have already cut down most of the forest here. The question is, how many acres did he say were being cut down a day during that 70-year window from 1800 to 1870? Was it A 65 acres a day? Was it B, 350 acres a day, C seven hundred and five acres a day, or D, a thousand acres a day? How many acres did he say? Press your button, Brad. Make it more fun.
SPEAKER_02I remember being impressed. And I think this number that I wrote down impresses me. This is an impressive number. It's not unrealistic. It's impressive.
SPEAKER_01B. Oh, you guys both have B. 350. The answer is 705 acres. It is impressive.
SPEAKER_03Very specific. Yeah, it's very impressive.
SPEAKER_01705 acres. So most of the deforestation that we experienced in Indiana being that it was originally 85% forested land and swamp marshland between 1800 and 1870 was demolished. 705 acres. That's insane.
SPEAKER_03I wonder what. So this is obviously just like the whole of all the new homesteads and everything that are going up clearing it for farming. I wonder how much a single farmer could clear in a in a day. I don't know. Depends how many oxen he had.
SPEAKER_01What I was thinking. What I was thinking is like when you have like how many acres are down the rivers? And then when we were talking with Harry a few uh few seasons ago, and he was saying that like that that was part of George Washington, like sending down those outposts so they would build like how many acres are they just pile driving as they're building these the same fort that we toured? Yeah. That's what she said.
SPEAKER_00It's pretty interesting.
SPEAKER_01Sorry, that was the beer.
SPEAKER_02But then every house that every homesteader was doing that and clearing land to farm. Yeah, I yeah, because I think they had to to be able to own the land, they had to make it farmable. Establish it. Yeah. Make it a productive piece of land.
SPEAKER_03That's what old Johnny Appleseed was helping everybody do out there in the frontier. And if you want to learn about Johnny Appleseed, go to episode for all things related to Johnny Appleseed.
SPEAKER_01All right, brothers. We got three questions left. Okay? One more question related. Two more questions. Well, whatever. We got three more questions left. I don't want to do math. And that's the 88 Paddy's. Had a great time with the family and can't wait to road trip with them again. While Congoree National Trip with the family again. While Congoree National Park was an amazing place for many reasons, the sheer amount of variety and variety of trees was absolutely cool. Yeah. I mentioned two trees. One was the bald cypress tree. What was the other? I do rem remember you mentioning two was it A the lob lolly pine, B, the sweet gum, C, the black jack oak, or D the tulip of poppy the poplar. Tulip poplar sounds like a cool tree. Yeah, there yeah. All trees found in that area of South Carolina. I mentioned two trees, especially. One was the bald cypress. What was the other? All right, I have my answer. All right, show them up. B Bob Lolly Pine. B, Brad. Gets it, dude. Bob Lolly Pine. It was tall. I mean, I think they grew up to 160 feet tall at their base. It was amazing. The bark on these trees, like, had all four of us, my father-in-law, my wife, and my son, and I, just standing there in complete awe. Jaws dropped. Jaws are dropped, dude. I'm 6'3, and my jaw hit the what do they call it?
SPEAKER_03Watch out for them gators. I was just loblolly was on my list because it just sounds whimsical, and that's right down your alley. And then I thought, what kind of tree would look good wearing a hat? I know you like any kind of creatures that wear hats, they automatically go to the top of your list. Big hat guy. And so I picked up. Especially on them orcas.
SPEAKER_01What is the name of when I was looking this up and it kind of refreshed my my brain? What is the name of the place we went down birding to earlier on in the year? There was two separate. Mary Gray? Nope, not Mary Gray. Loblolly. It was, right? Loblolly Sanctuary or something. Yeah. I was wondering what that might have in common, and I'll be looking that up shortly. All right. Question number 14. Two questions. That just kind of blew my mind. I know, I know, right? Yeah. I was thinking that while I was down there, and it's just one of those things where I'm like, I'm going to Google that soon, but I never do Google it. Three questions left. Sorry. Number 14. While we were spending time down around Chuck Town, which is short for Charleston, one of the most amazing. One of the most amazing things we got to enjoy was going out to Bulls Island. Bulls Island is just off the coast of South Carolina. To get to the island, you hop on a ferry. To get home from the island, you hop back on a ferry. The ferry we took over to the island was amazing. The staff on board was amazing. What was the name of this ferry company that I mentioned?
SPEAKER_02Oh my God. It had to have been like coastal adventures or something like that.
SPEAKER_00You're going to shit yourself when I see this first one, dude. A.
SPEAKER_01Coastal Expedition. Oh man. B, Bulls Island Boat Rides. C, South Carolina Islands. D. Nature, South Carolina.
SPEAKER_03Oh my gosh. They're all like generic.
SPEAKER_02It's got to be the dumbest one.
SPEAKER_03Oh, Brad, you're not familiar.
SPEAKER_02No. I've always been lucky enough to have a friend with the boat.
SPEAKER_01Brad said B. Brad said B. The answer is A. Coastal expeditions, dude. No. I should have gone with that. What was I thinking? Yeah. Coastal expeditions.
SPEAKER_03That was your mind telling you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the reason I wanted that on the list is just because I'm telling you, guys, if you guys go down to South Carolina and want a good group of like a good tour around Bulls Island, around the coast of South Carolina, that little coast, it is, they are awesome. They're not just the ferry drivers. They're scientists, they're biologists. One lady was there because she was there studying the sea turtle uh breeding habitat and the breeding uh kind of patterns. Do they work at like local universities or uh they might I didn't have a chance to like ask a lot of questions, but I have we we four made so many comments about just how like excited these people were to be ferrying us back and forth and showing us the islands and it was they they were awesome. And the idea that this was I believe this is the only ferry or one of the only two ferries that take you over to the island. So if you go to South Carolina, go to Charleston, go to Bulls Island, this is one of the experiences you get. And just on that ferry ride over, we saw dolphins, we saw turtles, we saw probably three or four. That's where I got my first picture of a common loon was in that area, and they're pointing it out, they're helping you out. They would never they never let it chase a dolphin or anything like that because they try to be very like.
SPEAKER_02Oh, dude, the dolphins chase you.
SPEAKER_01Well, it was that boat was creeping, dude. Did you call the wildlife abundant? Oh, very abundant, yes. Yeah. So if anybody's down there, look up Coastal Expedition shout out. They're not paying us. It was awesome. All right, you guys ready to get to the last episode recorded? We have two questions. What recorded? It's eight to three. Yeah, the last episode recorded. We're recording this episode. The last episode we recorded was uh the Costa Rican. I made some like which was episode 79. Jungles, volcanoes, and sloths. Brad and Sarah's adventure across Costa Rica's wild places.
SPEAKER_02I'm surprised they didn't put Bradley D and Sarah T's Coastal Adventures.
SPEAKER_03Bradley D and Coastal Adventures?
SPEAKER_02Or whatever it was. What do you mean they?
SPEAKER_03You think I have a fucking ghostwriter? Well, that sounds like a really good Saturday morning nature show.
SPEAKER_02Bradley D and Sarah T's Coastal Adventures.
SPEAKER_04We didn't travel the coast of the world.
SPEAKER_01Look at his stingray. Yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_02Oof.
SPEAKER_01Wait, who do you think makes these uh titles?
SPEAKER_02Well, normally you don't want to be called out for doing it.
SPEAKER_01You mean AI? Oh. Oh, you should just call yourself out? I don't do AI. Wait, you don't want me to say that I do the the Well, no, you normally don't want to say you're the one that puts them in. Oh, yeah, you're right. I don't like to put them in.
SPEAKER_02I don't know why we're done.
SPEAKER_01Wink. Okay. Let's get back to it. Episode 79, Junkles, Volcanoes, and Sloss, Brad and Sarah's adventure across Costa Rica wild places, not written by me, but also kind of written by me. We covered as much as we could about the trip they took in an attempt to keep this quiz fair. I don't have questions directly about the episode. Oh. But more about the country of Costa Rica. Oh. Yeah. I got it. And so, what percentage of the world's biodiversity is found in Costa Rica, despite it covering less than one percent of Earth's land mass? Is it about I read this at one point? Is it about one percent? About five percent, about fifteen percent, or about fifty percent.
SPEAKER_02That's you weren't saying the number that it was in my head. Yeah, I'm kind of overlap. I got my answer.
SPEAKER_03So you're saying fifteen percent or fifty percent or one percent of the world's species live in Costa Rica.
SPEAKER_02Of like, say there's a thousand different species of wildlife in the world, that percent of them lives in Costa Rica. Right? Yes. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01Show them up, dude. Five percent. Five percent? I scrap. I went hard. You went hard in the paint. Five percent is the answer for being such I I don't uh so I have some facts. What's the fact for these last two?
SPEAKER_03It's one percent sounds like don't feel dumb, Travby Jay.
SPEAKER_01There's no winners or losers. Every question or answer is a good one.
SPEAKER_03That was a clear logical failure, right?
SPEAKER_01Allow me to explain exactly why you're wrong. In fact, there's five hundred thousand species. That number blew my fucking gourd, dude. Five hundred thousand species. That's a lot on the nut. Well, okay. Well, there might be one or two more. Right, yeah, an estimated three hundred thousand insect species, fifteen hundred flower or uh plant species, nine hundred bird species, and thousands of amphibians, reptiles, and mammals. Damn. Three hundred thousand insect species? That's a lot.
SPEAKER_03What percentage of that did you see, bro?
SPEAKER_02Yeah. Which percentage of that stung me or bit me? Oh man, probably a percent.
SPEAKER_04That's true.
SPEAKER_01One more fact here. Uh, roughly 20. This this is awesome. This is the one that I want to high-five them for. Uh, roughly 25% of the national territory is protected through the national system of conservation areas. Yeah. 25% of the national conservation area. After 1980, uh, after massive deforestation, they regulated this back into the like where they were going to focus.
SPEAKER_03So much so they couldn't find any more resources?
SPEAKER_01They canceled, I don't know, I don't think so much focus on conservation or restoring their wild lands that they completely got rid of one major faction that every country has. Do you can you guess the military? The military. They abolished the military so they could use that funding for not just conservation, but schools, education, uh, infrastructure, and um wildlife. That's insane. I don't I don't know that question. That's a good that see. I knew when I started getting into stats, I'd be asked. What are their diplomatic ties?
unknownNational.
SPEAKER_02What's the way you ask it, Travis? I'm sure there was some kind of deal where, like, hey, USA, we'll do this. We don't need an army, dude. Yeah, like right, yeah. Like, I there's there had to have been something like that. All right, last question, dudes. Are you excited? But that does show, I will say, that effort shows everywhere you go. It's wild. Paper straw, it's amazing. Everybody's just conscious of it. Well, I mean, it was really nice, too. I mean it shows like in the environment that you're around the whole time you're there. Like, that's beautiful.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, that's awesome. I commend that giant effort. Because I mean, you're still talking millions of people, and to make an effort like that is insane. Yeah.
SPEAKER_03I want to know what that like. You know how there's a level of wilderness that you're in when you're at Out there doing what you're doing in, or you know, we're in the T Towns you've I mean you you're still not quite I'd say a level tens like you're in northern Canada or Alaska, yeah, or Patagonia. But like what would that level be uh in Costa Rica? Like how how much do you feel like you're out there?
SPEAKER_02Yeah, that's the thing. I don't know, is like how like here I guess you don't have a baseline jungle reference. Well but but also like here there's clear divisions of uh Wild Roll and yeah and and they go way deeper and longer and larger in the US because like the West is so huge and it's not the same. And like I feel like if you walked in a straight line in Costa Rica, you would it wouldn't take I mean it's it'd still be weeks and shit.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, like you're gonna hit something.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I agree. Or you can't go anymore. What are the two oceans that are on either side of Costa Rica?
SPEAKER_02Pacific and Gulf of Mexico.
SPEAKER_01Pacific and Gulf of Mexico.
SPEAKER_02Does the Gulf of Mexico count as Atlantic? I think yeah, I think it's technically Atlantic.
SPEAKER_01Oh. Which is uh the sea part of the Atlantic, but because it's locked in, it's called the Caribbean Sea. Those are the two bodies of large bodies of water. Fun fact.
SPEAKER_02That's a good I like Caribbean Sea better than Gulf of Mexico or Gulf of America.
SPEAKER_01They're separate of America. But they're separate, right? Caribbean Sea. No. No, no, I think it's all it's not like separated by a landmass. I know that. But like a region.
SPEAKER_02When you're sailing in there, you're like, eh, I think we're in the Caribbean Sea.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah. All right, question number 16. This is our last, this is our last question. And I'm not gonna lie, when I look this up, it like I looked up so much stuff about this because it is awesome. Oh. It is awesome. What geographic features, feature, feature, feature? You get that? One sure, one, singular, singular allows wild wildlife to migrate between North and South America through Costa Rica. Is it A, the Panama Canal, through Costa Rica? Central American Land Bridge, B. C, the Ring of Fire, or the Amazon Corridor, B.
SPEAKER_02That's what that that whole thing's called, right? The volcanoes ring of fire.
SPEAKER_01What geographic feature? Okay, go ahead. B it is the Central American Land Bridge. Do you know what that means? No. Because bros, when I found this, like I thought it was something like whatever. This is this is crazy. You ready to hear about this? The Central American Land Bridge, specifically referred to as the Isthmus of Panama. It's a narrow strip of land connecting North and South America, formed approximately three to fifteen million years ago.
SPEAKER_02This is all of Central America.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. So that's the isthmus of Panama or the Central American Land Bridge. So around three to fifteen million years ago, both continents were separated. There was an ocean between us. So when you think of biodiversity, when you think of evolution of species, at that point, those species were landlocked. There was North American species, there was South American, or whatever they fucking called it back then, those species. And then because of tectonic plate shifting, because of volcanoes, because of other things, a landmass popped up, which then we now referred to as Central America. Seven nations include this landmass, which are Belize, Guatemala, Honduras, El Salvador, Nicaragua, Costa Rica, and Panama. Those are the seven countries, seven nations. So then that allowed species, they called it the not a great migration, what'd they call it? The great American biotic interchange took place after that. Where now you had two completely different biodiversities being able to connect in this one region.
SPEAKER_03Yeah.
SPEAKER_01And then start subspecies and everything else, which is why they think they have such a large biodiversity in this area. Oh, yeah. Because it that is right where they crossed. It's like two all of them were.
SPEAKER_03It's like I married a lady from South America and our families cross over.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I mean, you could look at that like in my brain when I was thinking about this, I was talking like what when a woman and a man have a child and you have chromosomes that come together, and then you form another child. Like you like, but right here when those those two genomes or whatever it is cross, yeah, that's where it's most impactful. That's where you start seeing like genetics really pop out, is when you're boom, right in the middle.
SPEAKER_03And it just so happened to happen like right at near the equator where life is the most abundant of all.
SPEAKER_01Well, they also think that a good that a good part of this, because it you have to think a landmass pops out of the ocean. Well, it's not overnight. No, it's not overnight. I agree with that, but like it did change currents. Like, I mean, you're talking about an entire sea or an entire ocean that now is barricaded. So, I mean, the entire world's current is now shifting because of this landmass coming up that is allowing these species to cross diverse and all this stuff. The changed currents, it changed wind patterns. It literally changed the scope of Earth altogether. So there is thought, I I don't know how far I didn't go into her far that that may yet very well could not have been the equator at that point, like right at the cool though. Oh yeah, that's why Costa Rica and those areas have such biodiversity, is because it's the biotic, bio, bio, the great American biotik interchange.
SPEAKER_03Yeah, it's very awesome. It's similar to like the uh the land bridge between Alaska and Asia. Yeah. Yeah, it'd be Russia, Asia. Yes, yes, yes. But yeah, and people walked over and migrated down. But it'd be like to North America.
SPEAKER_01It'd be like people crossing over coming from America, Russia, and then but like all of that interchange is happening right in the middle, and then like 90% of that just stays right there.
SPEAKER_03It's just a nice sweet spot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, sweet spot. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_03That land bridge up there in Alaska is not such a sweet spot.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Anyway, that's uh season eight recap, dude. That's season eight trivia. What'd you guys think? Do you think that was a fun kind of way to go through this?
SPEAKER_03Way better than I think we've been doing it, kind of just saying, hey, what's your favorite thing?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I agree with you.
SPEAKER_03Not bad, but I think this is more, this is way more.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, this was fun. Did you as we were going through the questions, did you kind of remember some of the moments? I was hoping that it'd spark a little bit of like, oh, I remember that.
SPEAKER_03That's fun. And it's always very vague. Like, yeah, I remember that, but no details whatsoever.
SPEAKER_01Like five years ago. And in the honor of uh winning or losing, I will say that Brad absolutely demolished.
SPEAKER_03He crushed me. I'll give it to him.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_03You know, I've there was really no way I can spin this to make make me look good.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. Uh just a few more things before we get out of here because I do want to touch on the next season coming up, which is gonna be in two weeks or next week. Yeah. Uh season nine. We have Jaben Burnworth, my old professor, my old biology teacher. I can now wait. Coming on. He's coming down to the studio. We have DR coming down here. Uh that one too. I just asked about you then. Yeah. So she's gonna be great. And uh, we have a couple other things just going on. Just great guests, great talks. Uh, a lot of I think we're gonna do like two or three more gear episodes this next season. Yeah. So we're gonna get into it.
SPEAKER_03We're cooking our way to a hundred.
SPEAKER_01Hey, we can't wait for that.
SPEAKER_0320 episodes to a hundred. We can't believe we're this far.
SPEAKER_01Brother, can't believe it.
SPEAKER_03Insane.
SPEAKER_01Let's get out of here. Love it. Check you guys later.
SPEAKER_03Please like and follow. Keep on sauntering, everybody. Thank you for listening.
SPEAKER_01See ya.
SPEAKER_03That was a funny.
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