Ep. 81 - Pack It or Whack It: Strange, Bizarre or Totally Normal Gear in 2026

In this episode of Busted Knees and Pretty Trees, we dive headfirst into the wildest, weirdest, and most head-scratching gear of 2026. From “who asked for this?” gadgets to surprisingly brilliant oddities, we’re breaking down what’s innovative, what’s unnecessary, and what might actually earn a spot in your pack.

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SPEAKER_01 0:00

It's a lifestyle.

SPEAKER_03 0:14

Hello! Welcome to Busted Knees and Pretty Trees. Thank you all for coming along and letting us share our passion for the great outdoors every dang week. If you like what we're backpacking, saunter on over to our internet page, and if you'd like to invite your trailblazing friends, bring them along too. Listeners don't weigh a damn thing, and there's plenty of room in the Busted Pretty rucksack. No problem there, so let's toss in as many of us as we can muster. This is all theoretical, of course, but if you'd like to help us test how many we can fit, please go make some keyboard noises over at bustedpretty.com. There you'll find a signpost to help set you in the right direction. If websites are a bit antiquated for your taste, or if you'd just like to take a breather from the Doom Scroll, check out Busted Pretty on the gram, the sky, the tube. If all you want to do is listen without recognizing any of that, I can't hate. We appreciate all of you. I am Travis White. There is my hetero tree top grooming partner, Bradley Greer. And before we find out who else is in the studio, I'd like to address something with you, Brad. Oh. So for some pretext here, it saddens my heart to say that a senior member of this very podcast has inflicted sorrow and ancestral distress upon a sweet innocent mother who just so happens to be the mother of another senior member of this very show. Brad, how's Mama? How's she doing?

SPEAKER_02 1:55

Uh well, she she informed me that my middle name starts with an R and not a D. Yeah. So being called Bradley D is incorrect.

SPEAKER_01 2:04

Unless, of course, we're calling you Bradley Dickhead, and D is short for dickhead.

SPEAKER_02 2:09

Oh. Oh, I'm just kidding. That's a good point. She would probably say, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:16

Well, I think you're just digging a hole deeper, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:19

My bad must be.

SPEAKER_03 2:20

Just wait till you mean Mama Greer.

SPEAKER_01 2:21

Yeah. I didn't mean it, and I do understand it. Uh, I'm working actively to try to find another nickname. Everything that Brad does, all of his mannerisms are being clocked right here in the old brain.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

I was totally down with it.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

Well, I think you're the one that called him Bradley D during an episode, and then I just kind of picked that up and kept going with it.

SPEAKER_03 2:45

I kind of got a free pass the and combat whatever the hell I want.

SPEAKER_01 2:49

Yeah, okay. Oh, so I'm still working my I mean, I haven't even met Mommy. You haven't even met her yet yet. Yeah, you haven't earned shit yet. I am I am less than a novice according to your guys' ranking systems, or in terms of like knowing uh being a part of Brad's life. How in you are am I in the Greer family?

SPEAKER_03 3:09

Well, if you haven't met Becky and Brian, you you got you got a ways to go.

SPEAKER_01 3:13

September 12th, y'all.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

September 12th, I'm telling you.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

It's coming. Yeah, it is.

SPEAKER_02 3:18

Yeah, they don't know what that is yet. But now they do.

SPEAKER_01 3:21

Is that almost a spoiler? It's our hundredth anniversary celebration, September 12th. September 11th, we uh record the episode. I know it sounded it sounded strange to say. September 11th, we record the episode. September 12th, we're having a nice little garden party dinner. It's gonna be fucking awesome. Well, Patty, that's Patty Richardson, everybody.

SPEAKER_03 3:41

Sorry.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

But anybody didn't know Patty Cakes.

SPEAKER_03 3:44

But if you noticed in the beginning, I kind of took the load of the social media stuff. I know it's a pain in the ass to do. That is a pain in the ass. I don't even know if I got it right. Yeah, I'm not even sure. I'm not either. But you can go to the website and check them out.

SPEAKER_01 3:57

Yes, please do.

SPEAKER_03 3:58

But um, I wanted to the reason I did that is because I didn't want you to waste a single breath on anything that's not related to the vile things that you said last week, and I guess we kind of just talked about that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:15

Thank you. Thank you. I appreciate it. And I I I presume Mama Greer does as well.

SPEAKER_03 4:21

Yeah. I think we're gonna have some work to do to get uh Patty on busy's uh good side.

SPEAKER_01 4:29

I'm so happy that the News Panther chimed in. Thanks, Walt, because I want to be on the good side of just about every single human being I ever meet. So to be on the wrong side of old Bradley R that doesn't work right. It is a tough Bradley R. I can start doing it in a pirate accent. That's one nickname we never called you. Yeah, that's not it.

SPEAKER_02 4:53

Land it on us. This week's story comes to us from National Parks Traveler at the website, and they're taking us down to Canaveral National Seashore in Florida.

SPEAKER_01 5:05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 5:06

This is like this is the Canaveral. It's um where the Canaveral? Yeah, National Park. What was the website? Uh National Parks Traveler.

SPEAKER_01 5:17

I've never heard of it.

SPEAKER_02 5:18

It's a pretty good, I've I go to it quite a bit. They they they are like what their website says. That's they talk about all national parks all the time. Oh shit. Yeah. Stories, good stories. Um, well, like this one isn't even necessarily a national park, it's just a national seashore. Okay. And they cover this. Um at Canaveral National Seashore, there's a manatee observation deck where onlookers wait patiently for a winter gathering of manatees in the warm water.

SPEAKER_01 5:48

Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_02 5:50

Yeah. In a minute, we'll talk about why they know they're going to be in the warm waters and how they're how they find them. First, uh, I'm I know you guys know a little bit about manatees, right? Patty, I know you do.

SPEAKER_01 6:02

Yeah. Yeah. I prefer to call them sea cows.

SPEAKER_03 6:05

They can wear hats. Exactly. No, no, this isn't no. Or were they cleaning with each other each other with that's an orca?

SPEAKER_02 6:12

Orcas wear uh salmon hats.

SPEAKER_01 6:16

Yeah. Yeah. I don't this is why orcas weren't on his top ten or top five. Because you didn't even know that it was a fucking orca, Travvy.

SPEAKER_02 6:26

It's like that'd be like a cow with a chicken as a hat. But I'm thinking of manatees perfect for a hat. Well, they are large.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

They are perfect for a hat. That is for real, dude.

SPEAKER_02 6:38

They're large, fully aquatic, mostly herbivorous, marine mammals, sometimes known as sea cows. They can measure up to 13 feet long, weigh up to as much as 1300 pounds, and their tail is like a paddle. Their whole tail, and they have like two dorsal fins. Uh they inhabit shallow, marshy coastal areas and rivers in the Caribbean Sea, the Gulf of Mexico, the Amazon Basin, and West Africa. Wow, that is a large, that's a big range. Yeah, I think they stem from West Africa. They have been on Earth for a very long time. Are there different ancient creatures?

SPEAKER_01 7:18

Are there different types of sea cows?

SPEAKER_02 7:21

I think there's I think it's agreed upon. I don't have this in my notes, but I think I read that there like there's an agreed upon four different distinct types, species of manatees. Wow. And it might and it might be in those different areas. I think they all came from West African um manatees.

SPEAKER_03 7:41

How would you reckon they got to Florida?

SPEAKER_02 7:43

Swam across the Gulf Street the Gulf Stream of the Atlantic. Unless people, I don't know, because I think they've been they've been in the this article said, I can't remember what it was, but they've been in like North American fossil record for quite a while. Wow.

SPEAKER_03 8:02

What uh how dispersed are they like in the Caribbean?

SPEAKER_02 8:07

And well, they do tend to stay together and like stay in these warmer areas, especially lately because they well, like so a lot of their main dangers are human-related issues. Yeah, uh habitat destruction objects, just like nets. Yeah. And then uh propeller-driven boats and ships is a big one. Uh collisions with them. Uh manatees were included on the first ever uh were included on the first ever federal list of endangered species, which predated the passage of the endangered species act in 73. I didn't know that. 73 was when they decided we should probably protect a lot of these edibles that there's nothing.

SPEAKER_03 8:57

Wow, that seems kind of recent, right?

SPEAKER_02 8:59

Yeah. But they came out with this list in the like this like 68, I think it was, was like a list of endangered species, but there was no protections to go with that list. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

Was there some like an uh like I I know that there was signs prior to that, but were there long-term studies going on?

SPEAKER_02 9:17

Oh, yeah, because like the bird recovery, like the the whitetail, the elk, like all those recoveries were already going like that was when the Dinkel Johnson and the Pittman Robertson that all started coming around in like the 50s, 60s.

SPEAKER_01 9:30

Okay.

SPEAKER_02 9:30

So concert, like it was already we knew there was a problem already way before 73.

SPEAKER_01 9:36

Okay. Yeah. And then the pesticides, like uh what's her name? The author and scientist, biologist. She uh spring shit. Chad's gonna be pissed that I can't remember this, but the springtime book.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

Oh, yeah. I know which one you're talking about.

SPEAKER_01 9:55

She wrote about all the pesticides being used.

SPEAKER_03 9:57

Uh yeah, I'm not sure about it. But I'm not gonna remember it.

SPEAKER_02 10:00

So, one of the new problems that manatees are going to face is these warm waters that they tend to congregate to in Florida are power plants, like cooling water, the water that's used for cooling the plant being discharged back into like a bay or river basin or something. I feel like this isn't gonna be a good story. And that raises the temp of the water because they have to be in water above 68 degrees, or else they'll get hyperthermia. Wow. Because like as big as they are, they don't have blubber. Like most sea animals have a lot of blubber. Yeah. And manatees don't have much blubber, and their metabol metabolism is really low, so they get hypothermia like very easily, and that's how they die a lot of times.

SPEAKER_04 10:43

Hmm.

SPEAKER_02 10:43

Um, I mean, even last year, there was a, or I guess beginning of this year, 2026, there was a cold snap in January and February, and it killed nearly three dozen manatees, which is three times the annual average. Whoa. Yeah. So like they are very sensitive to cooling water.

SPEAKER_03 11:02

Yeah, so well, I mean, I they can't move very fast.

SPEAKER_02 11:06

So because there is water temps are rising, but it's these one-off weather events where it's just like a cold streak and the water drops, dips really quick, because they're in shallow marshy areas, so it doesn't take as much to for the water to change too. And so they hang around these power plants, like the bays of these power plants always stay warm. And they started like at discharge water that's warm or what yeah, because it won't know like it's not hazardous water because it's like a radiator, like it's going across it's just cooling water, yeah. Like it's going across the heated surface and pulling heat out of it, and then taking that heat into the ocean.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

I was expecting the story go to go by way of it being toxic.

SPEAKER_02 11:49

Yeah, no, because that's even like like a lot of the like the nuclear waters on rivers, and especially um like Savannah has a big one. Yeah, and it's just uh there are like they they contain the water that it gets exposed to dangerous stuff, and then theoretically or they say, Yeah, theoretically, like yeah, this is just pulling heat out of the source.

SPEAKER_01 12:11

That's also trusting a lot of people that don't necessarily have your best interests at heart.

SPEAKER_02 12:16

Yeah. So the Fort Wayne or Fort Fort Wayne, the Florida FWC, God, what's that stand for? Florida Wildlife Commission.

SPEAKER_01 12:26

I think that's what it is. Sounds great.

SPEAKER_02 12:28

They estimate that more than half of the state's manatee population depends on these power plants for survival, which it includes this Cape Canaveral power plant, which is on the Indian River Lagoon. So they started a lot of these places, they started actually building observation decks, and there's one around Tampa, like a lot of them, they can get up to a thousand manatees at one time in this winter time.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

Yeah, this is on a river.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Uh, it depends where the power plant is. They're normally normally either at a river mouth, like close to the end of the room.

SPEAKER_03 13:03

So they're not swimming up river. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

Or it's like a big lagoon where they're at. Uh yeah. So they started building these like viewing centers for people to come and watch, and the Tampa facility created it, seemed like they created like a pretty big, nice one. And they get 500,000 tourists a year to come look at the manatees. I would go. Yeah. If I was in the area, I feel like that'd be an easy stop.

SPEAKER_03 13:30

Oh show. So is this uh the money? Where's that go? To the power player or the uh you know, I don't know. Oh, interesting. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 13:39

Well, because the thing is, so like the problem is or is it just free?

SPEAKER_03 13:43

Or do you pay?

SPEAKER_02 13:44

Uh I didn't see. I guess I kind of assumed it was free.

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 13:48

And there's probably like a gift shop and stuff. There's gotta be a gift shop.

SPEAKER_01 13:52

There's always a gift shop, too. There's not. Get a man of team plushie or you can't move to the case.

SPEAKER_02 13:56

Dude, that was one thing. Uh um, I know the Costa Rica episode was a couple weeks ago. That's the one thing that pissed me off the most is there was no gift shops like at national parks and stuff. Dude, it was all like outside of like in the touristy part of town, like outside of the national park, where it was like the gift shop for the national park stuff.

SPEAKER_03 14:15

Just local vendors that yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 14:18

That video you sent on Instagram was hilarious about having to choose a stick, one sticker where you tell yourself I'm going in, I'm only gonna get one sticker. Yeah. They're like, you know. Five stickers, a poster, and a hat. Oh, for sure.

SPEAKER_02 14:32

In a shirt that's already shrunk. Yeah. Like as you walk out the door.

SPEAKER_03 14:36

There's so many shirts I've worn once and never again. Me too. So is that a cool design?

SPEAKER_02 14:42

So the problem is over the next 30 years, most of these power plants are gonna be like retired, modernized, and so there's not gonna be discharging this much water because that's wasted energy, technically. Like, ideally, that heat is gonna be used for something to go back into the system to create more electricity. So all that heat going out is just wasted energy. Oh shit. So once they modernize or like get newer power plants, retire these old ones, modernize the old ones, it's no longer gonna heat these little lagoons. So it's just one other thing that manatees are gonna have to deal with because there's like the red tides, the fungus, like algae algae blooms, yeah, because of the rising water temps. Yeah, and they like some of the things they are doing are widening wake no wake zones in areas where they know manatees travel so people see them and don't hit them with their boats. Because that is a big one. Like, I think I feel like like I feel like there was manatees in Charleston, and I remember seeing them on the water, and you can barely like unless you're specifically looking, right where they breach, like they don't they barely come above the water surface.

SPEAKER_03 15:50

I feel like it'd be like looking for morale mushrooms, it's so damn hard to seriously.

SPEAKER_01 15:54

Is this a uniquely American thing because of the power plants? Or like I imagine in the Caribbean or the Amazon, that water is a that like very nice they're they ain't worried.

SPEAKER_02 16:05

Well, I read I don't think it's unique to manatees either, because I I was watching a video where there's like an endangered shark that what's the shark? It's uh I don't know the name of it. It's it's in it's in uh off the whatever seas Israel's on. Yeah, and there's like a same kind of deal. There's a power plant putting water into the sea. The Mediterranean it's like where that's what I was thinking. I think it is the Mediterranean. I don't know, I don't know, I can't remember. But this little area, this little cove is warmed up by water discharging into it, and it's like a shark nursery. Like it's the only place where these where it's warm enough where these sharks can go and have a nursery or like lay whatever, have baby sharks. So it's not just as and it's pretty crazy, like it's kind of like sad.

SPEAKER_03 16:55

Well, warm water anywhere, anywhere you get warm water, you can get more life.

SPEAKER_02 17:00

Even humans go to warm.

SPEAKER_03 17:03

Like our algae blooms that we have up here, you know, the warmer that water is, yeah, the more they're gonna be able to thrive in it.

SPEAKER_01 17:10

Yeah. This would be a dumb question, but if that's the case, is there a future where you build a separate new updated one, and then that old one that's putting out warm water becomes a warm water producer?

SPEAKER_02 17:26

And that's what I was almost wondering. If because even to I mean to warm water, that's that takes a lot of energy. I understand. Like there would be a lot of energy being wasted to warm the water, so it would almost be like an a conservation method that's anti-conservation.

SPEAKER_03 17:44

You'd have to build another power plant.

SPEAKER_02 17:45

Yeah, that's what I'm saying.

SPEAKER_01 17:47

Yeah, like you build a separate new updated one for the electricity or whatever, but then that power plant becomes the thing that we now conserve to be able to promote a light uh an existence.

SPEAKER_03 18:00

Yeah. So it's like Or do we just say, hey guys, no go south.

SPEAKER_01 18:05

No, you don't gotta get out of that. They wouldn't just do that, they would just start paddling.

SPEAKER_03 18:11

It eventually the humans are gonna be done building shit there. Like they're gonna have to be or die.

SPEAKER_01 18:19

But conservation, I mean, you just don't you don't do that. Like that was when we were talking about that green salamander, it's like you just you try to keep it.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

But it's like think about so this is producing power to uh I don't know how much of Tampa it brings electricity to. That's a lot of energy that they're using that's to create like imagine how warm to warm that much water. That's what I'm saying, like that's attached to the ocean, right? Like it's and they're warming the water.

SPEAKER_03 18:55

That's a lot so nice that they were somebody had to go out and be like, hey, come over here, guys. This this is pretty badass, unless there's just like a bunch of dummies that happened upon it.

SPEAKER_01 19:08

I don't dispute that. I'm just saying that all I'm questioning is whether or not that becomes a part of I mean, we conserve land, we conserve waterways, we do all of this stuff to maintain the habitat.

SPEAKER_02 19:20

But once you do it, it's free. Like there's no once you conserve land, I mean you there, yeah, like you may have to rehabilitate it or whatever. But for the most part, like all these conservation groups, they don't have a lot of employees. Like it doesn't take a ton of money to keep a place conserved once it's already conserved. Where like this, you're heating that bay day in, day out. And there's you're doing something to create that heat, whether it's burning natural gas, it's a nuclear reactor, like there's something creating that heat. Yeah. I think that's daily.

SPEAKER_01 19:56

I I understand the negative sides. I'm just choosing to look at this as uh because what are the alternatives? You just shut it off and then a whole species just or uh I think that's the problem, right?

SPEAKER_03 20:12

Is it is it to the point where the the water outside of that area is too cold for them to travel through to get to warmer waters or what?

SPEAKER_02 20:21

Yeah, but even if I mean it's I I mean if they go if they have to go out into deeper water to get to the next bay, like yeah, I'm sure it probably is cold.

SPEAKER_01 20:29

And you're talking about potentially generations of manatees that have never done that. Right. That have known like it's not like they're gonna be like, it's cold. Well, yes. I think it's time to swim 2,000 miles.

SPEAKER_02 20:42

Because it's like that's not gonna be like think of this week, it went from 80 degrees to now it's 50 degrees, and that would have demolished a manatee. Yeah, like they can't get away fast enough.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

I think like from uh They had a cold spell and manatees died. Dr.

SPEAKER_03 20:55

Jordan Marshall's like perspective, you've gotta choose your battles when it comes to. I mean, you could probably do a lot of more, I think, long-term productive work in helping manatees if you spent that money on that one little project on something that maybe would be easier to maintain and the money would go further. You know what?

SPEAKER_01 21:20

You guys have like negative Nellies, and I'm gonna sit here where the positive is. I haven't said anything. Whatever. You it's still a negative content.

SPEAKER_03 21:29

I'm just looking at it from every direction.

SPEAKER_01 21:32

Hey, I want it all to succeed. Let's roll. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 21:36

Let me uh come to that la la land.

SPEAKER_01 21:39

Hey. I started sweating a little bit. I start getting this.

SPEAKER_02 21:49

We need to make shirts that say save the manatees.

SPEAKER_01 21:52

You're goddamn right. I mean, yeah, it's a tough one. Most of what we do and promote on this podcast is conservation and the I mean to me I feel like that's pretty detrimental. Like I would hope that they would come up to a solution that isn't just letter species or uh whatever a group die.

SPEAKER_03 22:12

Does someone give a count on uh like manatees and saved uh Western United States, Mexico, Caribbean or Eastern?

SPEAKER_02 22:25

It is kind of interesting because now the population is between 8,000 and 12,000 individuals in the mid-1960s. Like in the world or where? Uh in in this Florida.

SPEAKER_03 22:40

Oh, okay. Yeah. Yeah, that doesn't sound too shabby. What the hell was it last week we were talking about?

SPEAKER_02 22:45

There were like Well, they did aerial surveys in 1991, and there was like 1,200. Oh. But they were aerial survey. I think now we have better methods of the stuff.

SPEAKER_03 22:55

We've done we've done good.

SPEAKER_02 22:57

Well, they they went it is weird. I I don't know exactly what happened. It was on the endangered species list, dang endangered species list since there was a list. It came off the list in like 2000, like recently, 15, 16, something, and then they immediately started dying again, and then I think they went back on the list. Wow. Because they just like they started dying at like crazy louds.

SPEAKER_03 23:23

Once, yeah, they came over the radio like manatees are no longer endangered, and everybody in their boat just put it in the high gear.

SPEAKER_01 23:31

I'm laughing, but I'm disgusted.

SPEAKER_02 23:34

I think I could be wrong. I don't know if they are back on the list or not, but I know they were on it, came off of it, and I'm thinking they went back on.

SPEAKER_01 23:40

Well, that's nice. I'm gonna root for the manatee, and I will make a shirt or find a shirt that says save the manatees. And it is like 30 years. They're sea cows, bro. They're gentle giants, and I want to stare at them for the rest of my existence.

SPEAKER_02 23:55

I mean, who knows? Florida is probably gonna be like, no, let's burn coal on those plants. We'll keep it going.

SPEAKER_03 24:01

Patty's gonna start a mining company and tear down a mountain. No, I'm not.

SPEAKER_01 24:10

Sea cows warm. Oh, that I might do. You're right. As long as it doesn't hurt another species. But, dudes, we have a wonderful episode to get to. Wonderful news, Panther. Wonderful info trap or wonderful intro trap.

SPEAKER_03 24:25

I mentioned what our episode today was.

SPEAKER_01 24:27

We are doing a little bit of a gear thing. We wanted to kind of mix it up a little bit. You know what I mean? We didn't just want to talk about gear through our first through uh what? Gosh darn, I don't even know how many episodes it took to get us through packing for a backpack. 72. 72.

SPEAKER_02 24:48

67. All right. That's my guess.

SPEAKER_01 24:50

It took us that many episodes to get through the pack. So, but we do just want to keep back to our roots and talk a little bit about gear. This episode, we're gonna do a little something strange. We're gonna talk about the strange, weird, oddity. This one's gonna be strange. Yeah, yeah. We're starting now. Yeah, we're starting now. None of the other ones being strange. Beware. Uh, we're gonna talk about the weird, strange, and kind of oddities that you can have as backpacking, backpacking gizmos and gadgets, the new things coming out. I have a couple things on my list that are kind of sweeping the backpacking world in 2026. And the fun part is is Travy and I know our lists, but old Bradley I don't know, Mama Greer, we're gonna have to work on it. Yeah, we'll come up with something. He does, he has not actually looked at the notes or or the stuff. So I think we've kind of decided that you and I, Travis, are potentially gonna take turns running through our strange, odd, weird gears, gear and gizmos. And we're gonna see what kind of Brad's answer is to it. Would you let's pack it? Or that's wait, wait, what are we calling it?

SPEAKER_02 26:09

Put that in the pack or that is whack. In the pack or that's whack.

SPEAKER_03 26:12

Oh, that's that's how Brad's. I didn't want to go pack it or whack it. Thank you. That's in the ruin.

SPEAKER_01 26:22

So let's pack it. Wait, wait, what are we saying? Let's in the pack or that's whack. In the pack or that's whack, dude. We're gonna fuck this up. I'm doing it.

SPEAKER_03 26:53

I thought you were gonna go right through the intro right there.

SPEAKER_01 26:56

No, hello and welcome back. And I I just have my eyes shut and I just listened to that that every time. I love it. It's hard for me to come back. But we're ready to go. We are going to go ahead and see if Brad would uh pack it or whack it or something. I'm not exactly sure what we're trying to say here. Yeah, is that is Brad gonna are we all gonna make the decision to pack or whack?

SPEAKER_03 27:18

Yeah, ultimately.

SPEAKER_01 27:19

Um yeah, because I would like to uh I would like to throw in my two cents on mine and definitely on yours, and I would expect you to want to do the same. So I have just a few, and Travis has just a few. Some of them range from kind of normal. I'm just curious as to like where we're sitting with these sorts of things, and then some of them are a bit far out there, kind of sweeping the uh backpacking world as we speak, and I'm I'm curious as to whether or not I'm gonna be seeing this on trail with you guys.

SPEAKER_03 27:48

Sweeping the backpacking world. Some of these things, I'm just like, you know, yeah, that might be cool. Not necessary, yeah, but it'd be nice.

SPEAKER_01 27:57

Yeah, I'm curious because I like I said, I could be I could be swayed either way, but I'm gonna go ahead and start. Do you mind, Travy J? Go right on here. All right, Brad. Pack it or whack it. Yep. We're gonna start with the totem compass. Okay now, this is not uh originally branded to be for backpacking, but over the span of the past maybe year with some newer renditions has started kind of entering that kind of world, the hiking, backpacking, camping world. And what this is, it's a little digital, it almost looks like a hockey puck. It weighs about one and a half ounces, so really lightweight, not very much uh like a like a cheap light plastic, is what people are saying. But it looks like a hacky or hacky sack, I'm in. Looks like it and what you can do is you can buy more than one, you can buy up to four in a bundle, and each all four of those create kind of a mesh network between each other so it works off of Wi-Fi. It's like each of us would carry Wi-Fi, so each of us could carry one on trail, and each individual one can locate the other.

SPEAKER_03 29:13

They're all locating each other at the same time.

SPEAKER_01 29:15

They're all locating, so each person, like if us three had one, all three of us would be a different color.

SPEAKER_02 29:21

Sometimes I don't want you guys to know where I'm at. Duche.

SPEAKER_01 29:24

And so when uh like originally these were designed for music festivals. So when you're at this massive music festival, what it does is it's just like the the the circumference of this little puck lights up in the direction that the person is, so you can follow that light to the person you're looking for.

SPEAKER_03 29:47

Okay. So if you had those four pucks, yeah, everybody had a different color, and you looked at your puck, you'd have three colors going whichever direction.

SPEAKER_02 29:56

So it's not like a it's not like a magnetic or true north compass. It's uh it's a it's a homey compass.

SPEAKER_03 30:03

It's not a yeah, it's not like a compass compass. It does have so like I said where's my pad of cakes at? Or yeah, that's true north, maybe probably 30 feet behind you.

SPEAKER_01 30:14

That's true north to me. Yeah, hey, that's nice. I like that. Uh another feature that it has is an SOS button that goes to your friends or whomever you're sharing these with. So if you're falling behind, taking a shit. I found out a Yeah, maybe. I mean, anything, you know, in backpacking, you're on some tight ridges, you're you're you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_02 30:39

Like uh what immediately came to my mind was you're out west, and if somebody goes off to take a dump or whatever, you take the walkie-talkie with you. Right. So this would be like that, probably better battery life, right? Uh we have a couple of things.

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Um, it charges USB.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

Man, if you're at a music festival, you can leave one in your car and remember where your car is.

SPEAKER_01 31:06

Oh, that's awesome. Well, isn't it? That's basically like Apple, the little what do you call those things? Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 31:13

Oh, that's an awesome air tag. But I think what makes these cool is it's a visual thing. Yeah. And it works in real time. What's the range?

SPEAKER_01 31:21

Uh, I think it was like a thousand meters. So it's three thousand just under a mile or something like that. Well, okay, I agree. And and I'm curious to see if you would pack it or whack it, that's for sure. The thing is too.

SPEAKER_03 31:41

That's what I'm agreing with.

SPEAKER_02 31:42

But that's but when you need it the most is when you are.

SPEAKER_01 31:45

So I think whack it's a whack it. How often? Yeah, I I I would say whack it because how often are you that far apart from you can get four kilometers? Because the only reason it's there is I know, but like how often never. We've never that far.

SPEAKER_02 32:01

That's the thing. The only reason it's there is for emergencies, and it's not gonna and it's not gonna help if they're less than a mile away from you.

SPEAKER_01 32:09

You can follow a click down a mountain pretty quick. Yeah, and and just one more thing to add to that one a lot of the bad reviews coming from the backpacking, hiking, camping world is that you have to have like a direct line. You gotta think like if you're on a mountain range or in the tree line or something along those lines compared to at an open air concert or music festival, that is a direct line, and it's a mesh network, so it's not being convoluted by all the Wi-Fi signals and everything. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:39

It just communicates with itself. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 32:42

So they said like at best range, like to have the most accuracy, you're at a hundred meters. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 32:49

I think that goes for like radios and stuff too. Like you most of them you need to have line of sight unless you get like whack it. Whack it, whack it. Dravi? Uh pack it just because I think I think it would be cool.

SPEAKER_01 33:04

Okay. I'm gonna go whack it with weighs a grand. What do you say of ounce and a half? 1.9 ounces after I checked.

SPEAKER_02 33:10

Like, imagine if we took it kayaking. I feel like I I would easily get that far away from you. Yeah. You're on a fucking river. Right. But like, how far away is that how far behind is that motherfucker right now? Like, oh, he's out of range.

SPEAKER_01 33:25

It doesn't tell you how oh.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Yeah, like if I wanted to know because you know, like it doesn't take many bins for you to not see your through.

SPEAKER_01 33:33

I agree. It just gives you a general direction. Yeah, it doesn't, it just gives you a direction. Right. It doesn't tell you how far. Oh, I see, I see it look that color is in a uh just one more caveat to to kind of prove the wacket side of this, I think, is that a four-pack bundled, can you guess the price on a four-back big?

SPEAKER_03 33:50

It better not be more than fifteen dollars.

SPEAKER_02 33:52

Yeah, I would say like I was gonna say, like, I wouldn't like double, like double digit. Like not more than double digits.

SPEAKER_01 33:59

I wouldn't for a four-pack of these, it's three hundred and fourteen digits. You can buy radios for cheaper than that.

SPEAKER_02 34:07

That go further.

SPEAKER_01 34:09

Yeah. Four pack three hundred and fourteen. Are you whacking it now? Whack it. You're whacking it? Okay. This is a three-way pack. They're trying to rob us. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 34:18

It's a three-way whack it.

SPEAKER_01 34:20

All right, Travis, go ahead, dude. We got a three-way whack it. All right, well.

SPEAKER_03 34:29

My first uh little piece of gear here. It's more for the right before you get on trail and the soon as you get back off trail. Oh, which is I'm intrigued. The bumper dumper, trail hit, tail hitch, toilet. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 34:49

Okay, tell me about this.

SPEAKER_03 34:50

Well basically you gotta have a tail hitch, but it's you know, it's the you stick it in and it like kind of like forks out, and you can put a toilet seat on it and a five-gallon bucket underneath it.

SPEAKER_02 35:01

Oh man. I'm already I'm already like at a packet.

SPEAKER_01 35:05

You're at a packet? That's pretty nice. Also, we're just leaving it in the car, right? Trunke it.

SPEAKER_02 35:11

Trunke. You could also pull over on the side of the road.

SPEAKER_01 35:14

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 35:16

Does that have any?

SPEAKER_01 35:17

I don't know if you want to be on the side of the road and back your pickups.

SPEAKER_02 35:21

Well, would you like to like throw a box, throw a pacho over your phone?

SPEAKER_03 35:25

And I hold towels. The semis are driving by.

SPEAKER_01 35:29

You gotta still find like a pretty decent place to back up to dump it. I got the I got it.

SPEAKER_02 35:34

Throw a tent, throw your tent rain fly over you. There you go. Over the top of you. And you're kind of uh containing everything in there. Maybe until it's gonna get hot and sweaty.

SPEAKER_01 35:45

What do you do after you dump it?

SPEAKER_03 35:47

Tossing woods. I'd say you make sure you got a tight lid. Oh, yeah. Keep her on the roof rack when you're I have my advantage.

SPEAKER_01 35:58

Well, how much is this thing? Do you have a price on these?

SPEAKER_02 36:01

Um I if you can't get one for nine dollars. I feel like I could make one. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 36:06

That's true. I'd say uh we go to the high school welding shop if they still have those and to get one made real quick. What's this called? The bumper dumper?

SPEAKER_02 36:18

Pack it. You're just gonna go pack it? Just because I want I mean, it's in the car. I'm not carrying extra weight.

SPEAKER_03 36:24

Yeah, I feel like it's just uh if it's one you don't need it, but when you do, you're gonna be goddamn bad.

SPEAKER_01 36:32

That's true. Does it have like a toilet seat and everything? Uh no, it's just the the It's basically a toilet seat. The frame. Yeah, it might as well. Was it a thick toilet seat though? Is it the top of a tub?

SPEAKER_03 36:43

I mean, it's does it come with two plants?

SPEAKER_01 36:47

Solid steel?

SPEAKER_03 36:48

Uh toilet paper, it's not included, no. Oh, okay.

SPEAKER_02 36:51

Can you roll down the road with this thing under your hitch?

SPEAKER_03 36:54

I if you wanted. I mean, it's kind of rude if you like back it up onto like a sidewalk or something, and people bang their shins on your bumper dumper.

SPEAKER_01 37:05

Which has never been said ever in the history of words. I'm down. Pack it.

SPEAKER_03 37:11

Pack it. You're packing it? For me, it was like if the boys want it, let's do it.

SPEAKER_01 37:17

Like only because I want to be uh holy triumphant, uh, like the first one, I'll go pack it as well. I have a Subaru, and it takes a long it, you know, there's a lot I could put in that in the back of that thing. You get a good toe and hitch on there? And on the roof. But I but all but my my I would probably never ever buy a pump a bumper dumper. Why? I don't know. I just don't I don't I because I just don't know a time where you would need a bumper dumper. Are you kidding me? Yeah, because if if you're if you're always working in a lot.

SPEAKER_03 37:57

I always get bubble guts right before the trail. Two bubbleguts like we gotta get next to that last day, we're like I hop quick.

SPEAKER_00 38:04

I gotta get to that bumper dumper.

SPEAKER_01 38:08

Okay. Okay, I'll go pack it as well.

SPEAKER_00 38:10

I'm not stopping. I gotta get to the bumper dumper.

SPEAKER_01 38:12

We are a holy triumphant. I will stick with you guys. We will pack that puppy. That means we gotta get one. All every time we vote all threes, we gotta buy one, dude.

SPEAKER_03 38:21

Everybody needs a bump. We all need one in our vehicle.

SPEAKER_01 38:26

Yeah, done. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 38:28

Yeah, Debbie Ashley, they need them too in their vehicles. Jesus Christ. We're gonna give them quadruple the amount of sales we have had all years. What if that was our first uh what are they sponsored?

unknown 38:44

Perfect.

SPEAKER_01 38:45

You know what, dude? I'd take it. And I'd probably support that thing, dude. They're like, God damn.

SPEAKER_02 38:50

Yeah, that'll be like I'd I I dumped it in on the way home from work today.

SPEAKER_03 38:54

I've been using it all week.

SPEAKER_01 38:55

Have it in my garage. Just let it go, dude. All right, I got one for you. We're gonna go with hike goo. Okay? Goo. This is a little less strange than the bumper dumper, that's for sure. We'll be the judge of that. But what yeah. Well, this is normal. This is just a protective foot cream that you wipe. You get a five-pack, not that expensive. They're about$18 for a five-pack. Wait, they're like pouches?

SPEAKER_03 39:23

Well, it's like a soy sauce pouch? What are you talking about?

SPEAKER_01 39:25

Yeah, like a nice little pouch, like, well, bigger than a soy sauce packet, I'm sure, but bigger than but, you know, in between.

SPEAKER_02 39:31

Something in that's not that like a ballpark ketchup packet? Bigger than that.

SPEAKER_01 39:37

Like the dippers? That's another I'll go nugget dipper, yeah. That's fine. Okay, that that's where we're at. I believe. And uh what it is is you just kind of you generously wipe this, spread this all over your feet. Generously. Generously. Does it have to go on the feet? Yeah, wipe it. It's a foot cream.

SPEAKER_02 39:56

Although it's can it go like under your inner thigh?

SPEAKER_01 39:58

It's designed to be a foot cream, but it can, it's it works as an anti-chafing agent. So you can use it anywhere else, although it's designed for your feet.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

Is there like stay out, stay out zones? Like, don't put it here.

SPEAKER_01 40:12

Not too deep in the I never I never looked how far up your ass you can put it. No, I never did that.

SPEAKER_02 40:18

Well, because there's a lot of things that say don't put it in this area. I didn't look that up, guys.

SPEAKER_00 40:23

I didn't put it in my eyes, but I didn't. Oh my god. Can I swallow it? You don't know?

SPEAKER_03 40:27

Can I put it on my lips? I'm dying. Will it provide new trees?

SPEAKER_01 40:31

Is it petroleum?

SPEAKER_02 40:31

Is it petroleum-based?

SPEAKER_01 40:33

Like, it's not petroleum-based. I don't know what it is, but people do say in the reviews that it's like a mixture between like a vax, a Vaseline and a lotion, like a thin lotion. So there's a mixture there. You generously get it on your feet, like to the point that it's like a like the pictures online of this is like it looks like so.

SPEAKER_02 40:53

Is your sock gooey? Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 40:56

And then you put your sock on and you leave that barrier for up to 24 hours. This prevents your feet from blistering. And the reviews are sky high in that people are saying that this takes it not only helps with blisters and abrasions, but foot fatigue as well. Do runners use it? Uh, it's big in the running community. Sarah might be interested in the phone.

SPEAKER_03 41:17

But I looked it up for more for backpacking. Hiking in pudding shoes. I say whack it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 41:23

Yeah, I mean I I don't want to hike in pudding shoes. No? No. Okay.

SPEAKER_03 41:27

Okay, so you're whacking it.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 41:30

I'm not I can't speak for others, but I think for me, like I at this point I know my feet pretty ra well, and I don't I don't need uh boot pudding.

SPEAKER_01 41:41

Like I I was thinking that I wouldn't think like I would have like one or two on deck if I packed it, and if my feet did start blistering, then you would have that extra barrier. Yeah. And having blisters and having your foot in pudding would be really nice. I mean that. You say it that way. Right? So I don't know if I would like to start off my backpacking trip. It certainly seems messy. No doubt about it.

SPEAKER_03 42:13

Do you like at So you have 24 hours? Uh you say you're on a five-day backpacking trip. Do you have to wipe your feet clean?

SPEAKER_01 42:22

No, it's it's it absorbs into your skin. Yeah. So after the at when you're done with that 24 hours, you have a beautifully moisturized foot coming off trail. Socks good too. And your sock's good.

SPEAKER_03 42:33

Yep. Do they have a recommendation? Moreno wool? Or do we want some of the things that you're gonna do?

SPEAKER_01 42:38

I didn't see any recommendations or anything. But I imagine because it's being marketed to backpackers and that that you're gonna be wearing merino wool or some kind of a wool sock.

SPEAKER_03 42:48

It sounds weird to me. Uh I'm gonna whack it. You're gonna whack it too. But I mean, maybe it's it could be good for other people.

SPEAKER_01 42:55

Yeah. So but you're still whacking it? I am whacking it. All right, dude. I'm gonna I'm gonna go sideways here then. This is gonna be the first one we disagree on. I'm gonna go pack it. You're packing. Or maybe I'll pack it.

SPEAKER_02 43:05

Maybe I'll do like a shakedown it. Try it out on a shakedown.

SPEAKER_01 43:11

I'll buy a five pack for 18 bucks. We split them up and then we use them when if our feet get fatigued, blistered, or brazen.

SPEAKER_02 43:18

Throw them in the mid pack. I'm seeing, I want to see how how how squishy it is when I'm walking. Oh. I'm saying like try put it on for a shakedown. Okay, I see. How gross it feels. All right. You got it coming, bruh. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:31

All right, Travis, go ahead. All right. Well, since uh I've kind of been hovering around the tailgate here, might as well keep her going. The man can and trail keg portable single wall beer keg.

SPEAKER_01 43:44

Whoa, I saw these, dude. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 43:46

I think they're portable beer kegs. I'm just gonna straight up say whack it, because you can't make beer weigh less. You can make the can weigh less, but the beer that's in it is gonna weigh the same.

SPEAKER_01 43:59

And it's gonna be heavy. I have one on my list that is quite an s interesting uh juxtaposition from that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 44:05

Patty's tried getting me to drink dehydrated beer. Well, it's okay, Brad. Quit doing that. Spoiler alert.

SPEAKER_03 44:13

But that may be the better option b even though it's just like a s small keg, I say it's twelve, fifteen inches tall. Pony keg. Well, it's even smaller than that. Oh. It's like a like a smaller like scuba tank.

SPEAKER_01 44:28

I think as we're going through these, I think there's one more thing. Like, this isn't just about going on a 50-mile backpacking trip. This is camping, hiking, and backpacking. Yeah. So absolutely, if you could tell me that I could take a keg out there and have a keg beer for a night, if that's what I'm going out to a campsite to enjoy or hiking.

SPEAKER_03 44:48

It is very dependent on the trip. Like what we're doing with the trip.

SPEAKER_01 44:53

If it was like you feel the keg.

SPEAKER_03 44:55

If we're just going out there and camping out, I'm I'm getting kegs for you guys to carry out too, you know?

SPEAKER_01 45:01

How do you feel fill the keg? Do you know that?

SPEAKER_02 45:04

Yeah, because you normally get a keg full. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 45:07

It's already full, right? So you each time you go out, you have to buy another portable keg? I don't know about the the like I imagine there's some way that you can refill it. It's almost like carbonate.

SPEAKER_02 45:18

It's almost like this is a growler for kegs.

SPEAKER_01 45:21

Yeah, I get what you're saying.

SPEAKER_02 45:22

You swing by the drive-thru in Ohio.

SPEAKER_01 45:24

Fill her up.

SPEAKER_02 45:25

Fill up my keg.

SPEAKER_01 45:26

The second you open it, it's still pressurized, though.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

But that's what I don't I don't get. And how big did you say this was? Smaller than a pony keg.

SPEAKER_03 45:35

Yeah, it's smaller than a pony keg. I if we're going to. I would say it's about uh half the size of one of our bear cans.

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Oh. Yeah, a cylinder. If I'm camping, pack it. If I'm backpacking or hiking, whack it.

SPEAKER_02 45:50

If I'm camping, I need like four of those things.

SPEAKER_03 45:52

Yeah, I should have looked that up.

SPEAKER_02 45:55

I need older goddamn booze. You guys will pack it or whack it. I say whack it.

SPEAKER_03 46:01

I don't like it. Are we situational dependent, I think? Situational dependent. If it's a five-day backpacking trip, whack it.

SPEAKER_02 46:07

Well, no, but it no, even car camp and whack it.

SPEAKER_01 46:10

I would I would car camp and not whack it. Because I'll bring we'll bring a full size.

SPEAKER_02 46:14

Bring but bring beer on ice.

SPEAKER_03 46:16

True. We've got 9.6 inches of ground clearance.

SPEAKER_02 46:20

We can How do you keep that thing cold, though?

SPEAKER_03 46:23

Drink it quick. Drink it quick.

SPEAKER_00 46:27

But what makes it cold? It's we drink it so quick it doesn't get warm. We drive eight hours to the whatever.

SPEAKER_01 46:36

It's like drinking a drinking a pitcher on the deck at Hooters in Southwest Florida. We'll cover it with our sleeping systems. Wack it. All right, whack it. I think we're all whacking it. Okay. All right. Pack it or whack it. Five-toe barefoot shoes. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 46:55

I feel like you know where I stand to think.

SPEAKER_01 46:58

No? Whack it. Why? Because you guys are going to pack it? No. No, I'm going to whack it. You're going to whack it? Yeah. Okay. Toe shoes? Well, apparently, apparently, this is taking the ultralight world by storm.

SPEAKER_03 47:11

Yeah, it's been taking the ultralight world by storm for 20 years.

SPEAKER_01 47:14

It's true. It was designed, I believe, by a Swedish or Italian or some sort of European uh. Dude, I can't do accents. I can barely say that. You can see all the toes at the same time. You can.

SPEAKER_02 47:28

You grip the rock perfectly. That's what people are saying.

SPEAKER_01 47:31

People are saying that in the ultralight world, trying to feel more connected, that in these barefoot, five-toed shoes, you have better grip. Your speed it amplifies your speed of walking fast because they're so lightweight, you're not dragging a boot along or something along those lines. Whack it. Whack it. We're just gonna whack it right off the bat. You don't want to hear any more stats. Well, I was I mean, there's I have data. I have infinites.

SPEAKER_02 48:03

Did you look into who financed this these uh studies?

SPEAKER_01 48:07

But you guys are just everyone.

SPEAKER_03 48:10

What percentage of six foot three men wear toes? No art support. Zero art support.

SPEAKER_02 48:20

Zero zero kicking a stump or root support.

SPEAKER_01 48:24

Actually, they do have a couple brands that are not brands, but uh renditions that are coming out that are like more sturdy and bigger for the backpacking and like a boot.

SPEAKER_00 48:36

Trail trail toe shoes.

SPEAKER_01 48:38

No, they're not like that, dude.

SPEAKER_00 48:40

Trail toe shoes.

SPEAKER_01 48:41

No, they are that's what they are. They are trail toe shoes, that's for sure. I'm not just talking about the ones you go to the gym in. These are these are made for backpacking, for hiking. Uh they reduce blisters, they increase dexterity, um, but all like uh all the negative reviews that I did see are about stubbed or broken toes. Like they just said it is like, but they say that you when you're into this ultralighting world, that like you have to get your feet strong enough to be in these. So there's like a warm-up period. And even the companies, like as I was looking through their websites, they recommended that you like wear these for five hours and then wear these for ten hours, then you go outdoors, and they're like you these make your feet stronger over time.

SPEAKER_03 49:34

I get that too.

SPEAKER_01 49:34

I would like to have strong feet. Yeah, I mean you should try them.

SPEAKER_02 49:39

I still say whack it.

SPEAKER_01 49:40

Okay. I mean, honestly, I would still say whack it, but it has nothing to do with the shoe. My thought process is the sock. I think that at that point you have to have a very specific sock because now you have to have not only a five-toed shoe, but a five-toed sock. Or no sock. Yeah, but that's not what you're gonna do. There's no because you still have to have that.

SPEAKER_03 50:01

Pump some of that jelly in there and you could do that. Uh you don't need a sock.

SPEAKER_01 50:06

But I I think like to Travis's point before, I I just have like an understanding on my feet now, and like I do well in these socks with this boot. So I it would just be strange to have to get rid of my entire foot thing. But once again, if you're an ultra lighter, this is something that is yeah, you know, it's getting it's been big. I mean, like Travis said, it's been like 10-15 years of getting into the market, and they're hitting it. They're hitting it hard.

SPEAKER_03 50:33

Finally, yeah. Oh well, I'm gonna keep my eye on them.

SPEAKER_01 50:36

But you're gonna whack it.

SPEAKER_03 50:37

I'm whacking it.

SPEAKER_01 50:38

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 50:39

No, I mean, as much as I would love to have beautiful, strong feet, I can't. And it it's just I'm not gonna put the time in. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:48

And you're gonna whack it, and I'm gonna whack it until we're back. We're back to a unanimous. Yeah. All right, Travis, go ahead, dude.

SPEAKER_03 50:53

But I think if if this room was a little bit younger, that story would be different. Because we know our bodies and feet.

SPEAKER_01 51:01

But even when I was 25, there was never a thought that I wanted to be an ultralighter that bad to be able to take away the amenity. Like, I want a comfortable shoe.

SPEAKER_02 51:11

Like my all my ultra trail runners, I feel like weigh nothing. So you are only saving pieces of an ounce at that point.

SPEAKER_01 51:21

And there's an element of it. But you won't even wear your trail runners on a backpacking trip. You wouldn't do that.

SPEAKER_02 51:28

Uh no.

SPEAKER_01 51:29

You need more ankle support, bro. Not just ankle support, but the toe guard. Right. Right. Yeah. Okay. Alright, Travis, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 51:39

Oh, my turn. C. Um. Well, I would you mentioned it kind of earlier, and I think I'll just go through with it, but it's the powdered uh packets of beer or wine. Yeah. Or you can get a cheeseburger in a can. And if you look at the picture that they put on the internet, the cheeseburger that comes out of that can looks like fucking amazing. Like it was McDonald's made it, like a commercial. Like an AI photo. Beautiful. Beautiful. The lighting was perfect on it.

SPEAKER_01 52:13

Wait, so are we doing canned cheeseburgers or beer? Well, you can do whatever you want.

SPEAKER_03 52:18

Canned anything. Just canned uh, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 52:20

Oh, wait. The the beer I was looking at was it was like a powdered beer, like dehydrated. And then you need a special carbonized bottle at a one-time investment of 50 bucks. And then and then you carry that. You could buy a six or a twenty.

SPEAKER_02 52:38

But you can put multiple packets of beer like over a lifetime.

SPEAKER_03 52:42

Oh, yeah. Okay. You just keep reading. Yeah, like a NFL.

SPEAKER_02 52:46

Wait, same with the burger? Do you need a a thing?

SPEAKER_03 52:49

No. Apparently that burger comes out just perfect.

SPEAKER_01 52:54

I mean, that makes sense. You just make a burger, shove that thing into a can. Stealer.

SPEAKER_00 52:59

Dehydrate it, shove it in the colour.

SPEAKER_03 53:01

No, there's an even dehydrate.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

Oh my god, that seems so gross.

SPEAKER_03 53:06

I wonder what that bottom bun is doing. Wait, so what are we whacking it or packing it to?

SPEAKER_01 53:13

I mean, I'm I'm whacking all of it.

SPEAKER_02 53:16

I say stick with powdered beer.

SPEAKER_01 53:18

Yeah, because then I can get rid of mine. Because I also have powdered beer on mine. Pat's powdered beer, by the way.

SPEAKER_03 53:23

Uh, I don't know how the tech the flavor technology of powdered beer is working out right now, but might want to do a test run before you take a whole so I've been looking into this for quite some time, as Brad alluded to.

SPEAKER_01 53:35

You you bought some. I did buy some, and I thought it was wonderful. So it it comes at I believe it comes at like a 5.6 APV AB or a 6.1 ABV. That's pretty good.

SPEAKER_03 53:48

So it's also a pretty stuffed. Two of those will get you wasted on the trail.

SPEAKER_01 53:52

Yeah, especially when you're in high elevation. Pat, the guy that originally created this powdered beer, he was uh uh airplane pilot up in Alaska. That's where this was originally the bush pilot. And what when he was when he would be on the runway, he would notice all these guys that were packing up for a hike or a hunting trip or something like that, going way out to a cabin, being flown out to a cabin. Yeah, for him, weight was a huge and they would always have cases of beer that these guys wanted to take out there. And so what was stored up at this airport was just pot mounds of cases of beer that they couldn't take that these guys couldn't take. So he was like everyone.

SPEAKER_02 54:31

You can take your gun or you can take your beer and take both.

SPEAKER_01 54:35

Or you would end up bringing like the four bottles of whiskey, not the rest of the shit, right?

SPEAKER_03 54:38

And for a leave one magazine and take two beers.

SPEAKER_01 54:42

For a guy's strip that stinks. So he just kept saying that like every time that he would uh he would see this, it just further ingrained him that if he could figure out a way to dehydrate this beer, that he it would make a killing. And and it's it's been the all the reviews are saying the flavors are like spot on. I enjoyed I'm not a massive, massive like pale ale is one of them, and those things. So I it's whatever to me, but apparently they're good, and I think it'd be fun because you can buy them in six packs, and they're not that bad. Like, I think it was 24 bucks for a six-pack of these with a$50 investment in the carbonator bottle. And I, dude, I think after like a backpacking trip, if I poured you guys a sweet IPA out there, yeah, that would be gnarly. A great head, cool novelty, like drink.

SPEAKER_03 55:32

Not great head, Brad. One of those luxury things.

SPEAKER_02 55:36

I got you.

SPEAKER_03 55:36

Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02 55:37

Because if you give me a beer without a head on it, I'd be like, what the fuck is this?

SPEAKER_03 55:41

Yes, exactly. Yeah, it's like half the whole damn thing.

SPEAKER_01 55:44

Yeah. So, okay, you guys, are we packing or whacking the carburetor or the the booze? Well, I think he sold me.

SPEAKER_03 55:50

I'm gonna pack it. I'm gonna pack it. I'll have a beer with you out there, bro.

SPEAKER_02 55:54

Like, I'll let you serve me that IPA.

SPEAKER_03 55:57

Yeah, whatever. Go drink green tea.

SPEAKER_02 56:00

I'm gonna no, I'm gonna pack a flask of bourbon. Sure.

SPEAKER_01 56:04

I understand that. Yeah, yeah. Okay. It's hard to share that.

SPEAKER_02 56:07

Okay, so we're not on page here. I sh I've shared it with you before.

SPEAKER_01 56:10

Oh, dude, I'll take swigs of his bourbon all damn night. No biggie wiggle.

SPEAKER_03 56:14

We're taking nippy dudes, but we're all we're not gonna get wild.

SPEAKER_01 56:19

We don't want to get wild. Is it my turn or your turn then? Because I think we both have that one on our list. Do you want to get a case? Is it patty cakes your turn? You want me to go or do you would you like to go? Go ahead, sir. Yeah. All right. So this one's kind of been a source of uh uh not contention, but we've mentioned this to each other a couple times, Brad. This is something that I would never wear uh or use ever, but you have made a mention of potentially thinking that this might be good, especially on our kayaking trips. Nope. But what this is is a clip-on umbrella hat. Uh yeah. Okay. So hat. A clip-on umbrella. I mean, that's what I'm calling it. They clip on if you're back the backpacking styles, they clip onto your shoulder straps, and then they kind of like That's fair.

SPEAKER_02 57:06

I got it.

SPEAKER_01 57:07

Dorkiest, like, listen, I am a dork. But functional. I like dorky things. You wouldn't even. I'm whacking it a hundred miles an hour. Oh, that's not how it meant to come out. But so I do have some kind of fun information that I learned about these, okay? Just to kind of sway you in a certain direction.

SPEAKER_02 57:27

Is it skin cancer rates?

SPEAKER_01 57:29

No, no, hold on. No, no. But uh, so most of these are made out of I believe it's like a tin lining or something that reflects sunlight. These are the backpacking, the ultralight backpacking, I believe, or something to reflect the sunlight from there. So much so that some of the ratings I was seeing is that underneath that umbrella, it's a 30 degree difference from the rest of your body that isn't in the shape. 30 degrees seemed like, holy smokes, dude. You're taking 80 degrees down to a 50. Like that's a dramatic decrease there. They're super lightweight. The ones I was seeing, they said most of the time, like the backpacker ones are about 36 inches, inch 36 inches of coverage, so in diameter, uh, 30 degree range of difference. They said that it while it does use while you can use it for sun protection, the real usage for it is a light rain. A light rain. A light rain. Oh, yeah. Because a lot of the reviews, the negative reviews I was seeing is like that wind picked up and it became a pain in the ass. Oh, I can't like you know what I mean.

SPEAKER_02 58:47

I think wind is that's the definitely the biggest factor. Yeah. But the time but think about the times on the river that were the hottest. Yeah. There was no wind. That's why it was the hottest times on the river.

SPEAKER_01 59:00

So I I I mean, I'm not gonna show you guys photos right now. I implore anybody to look up the photos of people wearing uh these umbrella hats. And why I I just I'm gonna whack it. I'm gonna whack it. Okay, but let me just give you uh I'm also gonna whack it. You're gonna so we're a triumphant again. I just want to say this just really quick, okay? Because I just want to preface with there's a reason why I still wear vans. There's a reason why I kind of keep my my personal and my outward uh image just a little bit on the side of punk and things like that. It's just very much because I still want to be that person I was when I was a teen. Yeah. And I feel like if you guys ever caught me, whether or not I'm in a kayak or on a backpacking trip, wearing an umbrella hat, like at that point, you guys can very you you know that I have just thrown my entire life to the wind.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:01

We can bully you and beat you up. And I will care.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:05

But I and I would be like, please give me some edges. I deserve this.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:08

Are you comfortable with who you are? I don't know about that.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:12

Like I just feel like you just stopped giving a fuck about like that's when I'm wearing like Velcro shoes. No, like I have just stopped caring.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:20

The problem is that there's a better alternative to that, and that's a straw hat. Totally.

SPEAKER_01 1:00:26

Especially on on a bat on a kayaking trip.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:29

Because I mean, straw hats don't surf surfers wear straw hats.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:33

Dude, they they look gnarls wear straw hat. Sun on that. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

All right, we all whacked it. In lieu of packing a straw hat. Yeah, in lieu of packing a straw hat on a river.

SPEAKER_03 1:00:50

Pack straw. Go ahead, Travvy Jay. All right, I'm gonna. I wanted to do this other one, but I thought this one was kind of interesting. Um, so it's an accessory for your trekking poles. Oh. And you know those little things that you put on the bottom, the little rubber you can have ones that are spiky, they give you a little grip. Yeah. There's some that are just rounded, so you're if you're on like uh asphalt or something. Yeah. Well, they make ones that are uh animal paw prints. I thought you were gonna say like uh electric shock. What does that do for you? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:26

Nothing. People can't trace you as easily. Yeah, they can't trace where you were using trekking posts. Yeah, I guess you still have footprints though.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:33

Dude, it might, it's magical for the next guy coming up the trail.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:41

24 inches.

SPEAKER_01 1:01:42

And it probably doesn't weigh anything. I'm just gonna be that guy, but it probably doesn't weigh anything to add those to the bottom of your drive.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:54

I already know my answer.

SPEAKER_02 1:01:56

There probably is just like a function.

SPEAKER_03 1:01:57

Yeah. Well, I don't think it has a practical purpose.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:01

Yeah. I know my answer. Whack it. That wasn't mine. Mine's packing it. I feel you're packing it.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:06

If it's available, probably packing it. Yeah. I'm not gonna pay an extraordinary amount of money. I mean, if I can't get these for 99 cents, I'm not a piece, okay? I'm not that cheap. Yeah. I'm packing it. I'm packing it even more.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:21

But it's probably not functional, though. You're probably not gonna be able to like dig into it. Well, it depends.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:25

You don't know. You depends on the animal.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:34

I'll tell you what, my old rubber pieces are all rounded out now.

SPEAKER_02 1:02:37

When have you been so I've always had the metal tips on mine? Well, rubber on mine. I've never thought I need a wider base. Into material sciences, perhaps.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:48

Yeah, you don't get it. Just for a little rubber paw. Plus the joy that I'm envisioning the next kid up the trail.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:53

They're like, then we're following a deer. You don't have to put any effort into it other than replacing those.

SPEAKER_01 1:02:58

Then it's just this big old bear up trail. They're like, it's not a deer, that's a big old bear.

SPEAKER_03 1:03:03

I would it would be kind of frustrating for a nature lover. If you're just seeing these random Oh, you're gonna put giant bear paws on you? No, Patty's the Patty is a bear. Yeah, I thought you have giant bear paws on you.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:17

No, I'm bear pulls.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:19

I mean, might as well. Why stop at tiny little raccoon?

SPEAKER_03 1:03:22

Darn skippy. Well, I just thought about it for a little bit. And if you've got everybody with trekking pulls with all these animal footprints on them, you're it's not good. You're not gonna know what's real and what isn't. It's already hard enough in the world.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:35

Dude, we're talking about an accessory to add to the end of it. Who get you're whacking in there? Dude, I'm packing it. I don't care what you guys say. I'm packing it, I'm bringing Jordan to the backpacking world.

SPEAKER_02 1:03:46

I'm gonna kick it in front of the taxi, lay down.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:49

Generally, I'm behind you. You don't even use your trekking poles. I do now, sometimes. Dude, when smile when the pussy's busting these kick in, those uh those trekking poles are a lifesaver, bruh.

SPEAKER_02 1:04:02

All right, who's next?

SPEAKER_01 1:04:02

All right, I'm up next, dude. I'm gonna keep it with the trekking poles. I have one other one that I really want to get to, but we're gonna stick with the trekking poles. And this is pack it or whack it, Brad and Travvy. The pure trek, trekking pole, and water filtration system in one. Oh, yeah, bro.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

Like a trekking pole, that's a straw, filter straw or something.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:27

Yeah, kind of like that. Uh, it's the first ever of its kind. There's only one brand, one out there right now, and it's pure trek. And what it is, is at the top of your grip, there's a little like seal. You open up that seal, you put the you connecting 007. You connect a hose, you connect a hose to it, and that hose would go into your water bottle or something along those lines.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:53

You turn on the air compressor.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:55

No, and then what you do is you uh you kind of like loosen, kind of like a lotion bottle. When you first buy it, you kind of have to like undo it. Your your hand, your grip of your um trekking pole will lift up because all the tension will go, and then on the bottom of your trekking pole, the same place we would put the footprints, that you would lift, you would open up that lid, put that into the water, and then with your grip, that's your that's your so you can't have the paw attachments on the probably not, not on this one, no. Oh, man. And then you just pump that straight through your trekking pole and then down into your water bottle, and you have clean water with your trekking poles.

SPEAKER_02 1:05:36

That's amazing. I don't want to hate on it. That's some ingenuity right there. Yeah, dude. I don't want to hate its kind. They uh what's funny is because when Travis said that, I thought it was like you put your trekking pole into a puddle, suck it up, put your mouth on top of the handle, and suck some water in it.

SPEAKER_00 1:05:54

He's not that far, he's not that far off from it, though. No, you're not that far off from it.

SPEAKER_01 1:05:59

What I enjoyed. Of it too is like, you know how it's kind of a pain in the wazoo to kind of bend over into a creek and get it in the right place. Like you're talking about, I mean, at my height, I'm talking about damn near three and a half feet. You're changing elevation, damn near. I'm just standing with the bottom of my trekking pole in a creek and it's just going. I say whacking. So I mean that's that's cool. Let me just a couple more things. Okay. He's still trying to sell it. I rescend my whacking. 2,000 liters of water uh before you have to change the filter that this will pump through. And can you guess the price on this?$93. Very close.$97.$89.99 for uh the set of trekking poles.

SPEAKER_03 1:06:42

Both poles filters. Yes. Okay. You got double. So each pole can do what do you say, 9,000 liters? 2,000. I mean, why you could hand it to it?

SPEAKER_02 1:06:51

You can fill up your buddy's water bottle while you're filling yours up.

SPEAKER_01 1:06:54

Yeah. I don't know, dude. Yeah. Well, my theory 90 bucks is cheaper than a great trekking pole because you buy a lot that much. Uh I can't I don't have the weights written, but I remember being like, oh, that's pretty fucking normal.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:06

If you buy like uh a multi-tool. It generally doesn't do what it's designed to do as good as the tool soon.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:17

But how good does a trekking pole have to be? Like the only thing you would be worried about there is the water filtration system, right?

SPEAKER_02 1:07:23

So if they can prove that that's a long way to keep suction and collapse it.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:28

I agree. Can you collapse those trekking poles? I don't know. I say whack it. I don't think it's I don't think can you attach small animal paws to the bottom of them. I don't know that. You gotta keep moving.

SPEAKER_01 1:07:39

All right, go ahead. Whack it then. You're whack it. All right, okay, go ahead, Travy J.

SPEAKER_03 1:07:44

Okay. I have two more left. Okay, I have one more. So my first one, this one is actually practical, and it's a bear can key, which I saw these. It you can open the can easier, and it also like helps to attach your lid to the body of the can, and so you don't uh you'll never lose them. They'll always be together. Yeah. I dug this. That would be nice. I didn't see how much it cost, but it's like it made it easier to open your bear can. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:12

Those things are opinions.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:14

That's a on ours, we don't need a key. Right. I think these are more for those hard I can't remember what the printing is.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:27

The puzzle.

SPEAKER_01 1:08:28

No, but those hard plastic in. So we have a certain kind that we got. The bare vault. Yeah, the bear vault. But there's the harder plastic that's not the see-through, and those actually like you need it for most backpackers or hikers or whatever will carry a quarter with them to open it. So you'd literally need a key to get in it. Or or or a quarter or something on those piece shape. 50 cents. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:53

Yeah, I I say package.

SPEAKER_03 1:08:54

I would say package. Yeah, it's not gonna lay, it's not gonna weigh it.

SPEAKER_02 1:08:58

Because sometimes even that bare vault, like at the end of the day, your hands are sore from your shaking port. Yeah, and like you're trying to squeeze that thing to get the lid open.

SPEAKER_03 1:09:08

I've developed a way to just jam my knife in between the lid and that little lock and just be able to twist it. And it because it's it slides a lot easier.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:16

Yeah, I say pack it. That sounds nice.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:20

All right, I have this one left, and this has been my uh, this has kind of been this is my coup d'etral. I'm excited about this one. I'm excited. It's gossamer gear.

SPEAKER_02 1:09:30

Oh my yeah, my squad.

SPEAKER_01 1:09:33

This is another one of those uh those things that are really hitting the market right now, especially for ultralights. Okay, so this is another one of them things. And if you remember uh when we're talking through hikers ultralighters, what they do is they cold soak. They cold soak their food. Oh, yep. So let's just say you don't want it cold soaked, but you want it lukewarm soaked. What are you gonna do? Put it between your legs. Gossamer gear has an idea for you, and that's called the crotch pot. It's the astral pouch. That's what I was thinking. It's called the crotch pot, is this gossamer gear? It's uh it's a Tyvek material bag that has two uh monkey, I call them monkey clips. I cannot remember what you guys call them. Carabiners. Carabiners, thank you. Carabiners, that carabiner onto your front pant pant loops, and uh inside this Tyvek pouch, you can fit a quart-size ziplock bag. So we repack our foods before backpacking trips. You take one, you're about to hit the trail, you take one of those dinners out, you throw them in this gossamer gear crouch racket, crotch pot. Crotch pot. Crotch pot. You buckle it onto your front buckles, zip your pants up, put it down in the front of your pants, zip it up, and you go on your merry way. By the time you get to your uh your campsite, you have lukewarm uh food ready to go. Yeah, they're calling it the innovation of 2026, the ultimate fuel-less ultralight backpacking stove is what they call this.

SPEAKER_03 1:11:11

Yeah, uh it makes for the ultralighters, it makes sense, but yeah, comfort, I feel like, would be a big major issue on that one.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:20

Yeah, I'm I'm whacking it just because uh if I'm become that concerned where I'm not taking a stove, I don't want to go backpacking.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:28

So my co-worker and I, I was running through this list, I told you that, and she was saying that like like there's when we've we've acknowledged it plenty of times throughout our episodes, is that there's still like an amenity level, yeah. And having like a hot dinner or a hot breakfast, or at that point a hot because you would leave your stove at home. Yeah, so a hot coffee or a hot tea at the end of the night.

SPEAKER_02 1:11:52

Like hot coffee, that would be the one that would be the game breaker. Like that would if I can't have hot coffee, I don't want to go.

SPEAKER_01 1:11:59

Yeah. Well God, that sounds like a can I just can I just add one more? I I think we're all whacking it, but I just want to add kind of like one more thing to it. Is there's like a level that even like as I'm thinking about it of kind of grossness, yeah, like even if it is behind the wall of a quart-size zip ziplock baggie and Tyvek. I'd rather be my armpit. There's a weird, like like she was saying she would rather strap it to her bra and have it on her chest, but obviously the friction down low is what gives you that lukewarm cooking your food. And just um just saying that and then also saying that I'm gonna pull that out of my sweaty ass pants. Like, imagine your like that warmth came from my balls.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:46

Like that is weird. Imagine us at a like sitting around our campsite and somebody walks up and pulls this bag out of the crouch.

SPEAKER_04 1:12:54

Yum yum.

SPEAKER_02 1:12:56

And then you pull your stroke out of your strog and off ready. Yeah, dude.

SPEAKER_00 1:12:59

Yeah, you pull, don't do that. You pull your spork out of your thigh holster.

SPEAKER_04 1:13:05

Is that what you're talking about?

SPEAKER_03 1:13:07

I will tell you, uh like MREs, like in the winter time, we would stuff them in our pants to get that peanut butter loosened up a little bit.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:17

I get that. I get it, but I I just don't know if it's better.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:20

If it's like a recreational thing, I don't, it's not something I'm interested in doing. Okay, so we're all gonna whack.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:27

I'd rather be cold soaked. I say whack it. Yep, whack it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:30

I'm whacking it.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:31

Cold soak sounds like a something Mormons do.

SPEAKER_03 1:13:34

All right, Travvy, you got one more, bro. Oh, uh yeah, my well, there was somebody mentioned toilet paper. I saw uh glow in the dark toilet paper. Yep. Uh does it how much glowing does that toilet paper really do in the dark? Why do you need it to glow? Well, for uh, you know, make sure you buried it.

SPEAKER_01 1:13:54

Yeah, that or you're you're up in the middle of the night, you got a little squirt squirt going around.

SPEAKER_02 1:13:58

Yeah, but you can't see your ass when you're wiping it with the toilet paper.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:02

If you don't use glow in the dark toilet paper.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:06

I can't I don't think I can see my ass if I had a flashlight on it.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:09

Yeah, but you could see in the general direction. Well, you're not using the paper. Hey, I'm not promoting the toilet paper to illuminate your ass. I I'm not saying that I would I would pack it. I'm just this was one on our list.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:21

It's just like, whoa, quick squirts, middle of the night. Where's that toilet paper? It's right there.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:27

Yeah. Oh, okay. That makes more sense.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:32

So pack it or whack it. Whack it. Whack it? Grab me, whack it, whack it. I'm gonna go whack it too.

SPEAKER_02 1:14:38

I have my headlamp within arm's reach at all time.

SPEAKER_01 1:14:40

All right, can we just have a one more? Yeah, let's do a speed round. You you knock out the rest of yours, I'll knock out mine.

SPEAKER_03 1:14:46

This was my last one, and I thought of you for this one, Patrick, which is a line that you hang on the inside of your tent, and right in the middle, there's a bracket where you put your phone. Yes. So you can just lay back, sit back, relax, and just put on season two of friends, not all the way through the night, baby.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:04

I'm not even past episode three of season one yet. Well, it comes with a remote control, too. Yeah, pack it. I'm on board with that, dude. I'm on board with that. Any luxury I can find for not a lot of weight inside my tent. Brad could probably tell you what I'm packing all of it, dude. Tyson Nats engaged.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:20

That was my first thought. I could probably make my own.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:23

Hey, we're gonna have to figure that out then. Like it's basically some string that suspends your phone in front of your face.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:28

Whack it, I can make my packing it. Okay, I'm packing it. All right. Uh portable bidet. Pack it. Pack it. You like it. Oh, yeah. Really?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:37

I carry it with me everywhere. It's in my uh my backpack right next to you, Patty. Has a portable bidet.

SPEAKER_01 1:15:44

How often is you have you used that?

SPEAKER_02 1:15:45

I've only actually ever used a one bad. Do you have one on you 24-7? Uh when I'm out, like not at work. I don't, I mean, I if unless that pack's in the car. But if I'm out, the hardest part with the portable bidet.

SPEAKER_03 1:15:58

That's a bad idea. That's a good idea.

SPEAKER_02 1:15:59

The hardest part with a portable bidet is you need a plastic bottle.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:03

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:04

And like my bottle, my water bottle's metal. Yeah. So if you don't have a plastic bottle, the portable bidet's pointless. Yeah. So that's my problem, is I don't always have a plastic bottle.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:13

So you're picking like maybe a small bottle that you could maybe pick.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:17

Yeah, maybe I should. Maybe I should get one of those like traveling.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:19

I mean, you don't need to use a whole 18 ounces, right?

SPEAKER_01 1:16:23

Yeah. So you're packing it. Yeah, pack it.

SPEAKER_03 1:16:26

Pack it. Pack it. I've never even used one, but I'm thinking why not? It doesn't weigh nothing.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:32

Pack it. Alright, last one. Fast round. Wicked Lasers Flash Torch Mini. This is a flashlight and fire starter. It's a 2300 lumen flash bulb. It burns so hot that it has been known to light wood. It can lukewarmier deader.

SPEAKER_02 1:16:53

Yeah, yeah. Yes.

SPEAKER_01 1:16:54

It definitely could. It can light fires, it can light wood, it can light fabric as well on fire.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:00

That seems dangerous, pass. Pass? Or whack.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:03

Whack? Oh, that's right.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:05

It seems a little overkill.

SPEAKER_02 1:17:06

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:07

Whack it.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:08

All right. That's our list. Bang. We're good to go. There's got to be crazier shit out there.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:14

I was trying my tail off, dude. I was trying my tail off to find a lot, and that's what I found. Well, I think it's just a lot of practical shit, is what it is. There's not as much weird shit out there that you would think of.

SPEAKER_03 1:17:27

And there's a lot of one like I had this problem. Yeah. So I'm going to make this weird thing to solve that problem. Yeah. But it's not a common problem. So nobody's all right.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:37

That's it, dude. I'm in. I'm glad we got that gear episode out of the way. That was fun. Where are we at on gear now?

SPEAKER_03 1:17:44

Dude, we've done it.

SPEAKER_01 1:17:46

That was the silly stuff. We got a lot coming up. We generally have like two episodes a season. That's gear. So we got another one coming up later next week. Make sure you tune in as well because we got Professor Dr. Jabin Burnworth. Not a doctor. Professor Teacher Jaben Burnworth coming on. So that's going to be great. But what do you guys say we get the hell out of here? Yeah. Yeah. All right, dude. Episode 81.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:09

Start of the new season.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:10

Let's go.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:12

The Road to 100. Yeah, that's fun. Like a WWE thing.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:17

Just to be clear, I would pack this podcast. I would not whack this podcast.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:22

It doesn't weigh much.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:23

Yep.

SPEAKER_03 1:18:24

Okay. Thanks for listening, everybody. Keep on sauntering.

SPEAKER_02 1:18:28

Goodbye. See ya.

SPEAKER_01 1:18:43

I can't even remember what we just said, is it? Let's keep working while you keep saying that.

SPEAKER_00 1:19:00

Okay.