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Ep. 87 - Survival of the Smartest: Trivia Night with Kearstin Whitcomb!

Travis White, Brad Grear, Patrick Richardson Season 9 Episode 87

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After what feels like years of waiting, our beloved Kearstin Whitcomb finally made her way into the dungeon studio for recording night—and it was totally worth it.
This week, Bradley R steps in as quizmaster, putting the fellowship of the pink pony club through a gauntlet of animal trivia—from the biggest animal to have ever lived on earth to how many eyes a bee has!  The competition gets fierce, the guesses get reckless, and the laughs come easy. It’s part trivia night, part wildlife crash course, and all-out chaos.
Think you know the animal kingdom? Tune in Wednesday and play along.

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SPEAKER_03

Howdy! Welcome to Busted Knees and Pretty Trees. Today I think we're just gonna kick our feet back. We don't have to worry about all the pomp and circumstance, red carpet, flashing bulbs, the glitz and glamour of welcoming one of our honored guests. It's just the three of us, calm, collected, and delighted to be here. I wrote that last passage uh a bit earlier before I got to this studio, and it just so happens that we have a fourth. Yes. A special guest popped in. We're also delighted that y'all came to listen and we're grateful for you. We appreciate the support. Today, Bradley is going to deliver us one hell of an exhilarating busted pretty tales of trail, terror, trivia, challenge. And I'm glad I asked what we were doing on the show this week because I was preparing my own set of questions. But I'm gonna bank those ones for later. Brad has kept pretty quiet about uh his diabolics and what he has been creating in the darkness. To me, anyway. Never know what uh these two are talking about at work during the week, which always concerns me. But I'm looking forward to the challenge, and I'm also hopefully we can get some sound effects. I'm Travis White. There is the brilliant Patty Richardson. Howdy. And there is tonight's Master of Trivia, Bradley Grayer. Hello. And over there, our pop-in guest. Yes, we have in studio, on mic, hero of the Pigeon River disaster, one hell of an on-and-off-road driverslash tour guide, the fourth member of the story T Ton Fellowship, Kirsten Whitcomb.

SPEAKER_00

Yo! That was an epic intro. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03

And this was that was never gonna happen. This was supposed to never happen. Oh, and we have the crowd cheering for you.

SPEAKER_02

That's big deal. Pipe down crowd. Yeah. Dude, I always say this and probably always say that I mean it, but this time I fucking mean it. I'm so fucking jazzed that you are in the studio not just to hang out because you've been here once or twice before to hang out, but she's on air with us. The fellowship of the Pink Pony Club is in the fucking house, y'all. I'm gonna be honest with you. I'm a little starstruck. Are you? I really felt that way. Fumble fucking intro. As soon as she walked in, I looked straight up at the uh the picture above her, and I noticed that the fourth autograph is there. Yep. So I mean, like, that is this is this is this is one of my heavens.

SPEAKER_00

You had complete.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, that was a big signature to get. Yeah. We got that what, like last summer?

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. It took a minute.

SPEAKER_02

For all of our listeners that don't know, that wasn't tuned into like the first few seasons. Kirsten uh went on a backpacking trip with us three odd fellas uh out to the Grand Tetons. We've talked a lot about the Tetons, and Kirsten was our fourth.

SPEAKER_00

Maiden voyage.

SPEAKER_02

Our maiden voyage. It was epic. She uh she walked down the trail with uh Travis after your busted knee gave out. She made sure I didn't die. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Escape plan, yes.

SPEAKER_02

It was Mama Kirsten all the way. It's okay.

SPEAKER_00

It works out perfectly. We got an escape ride. It was perfect.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, we couldn't, I wouldn't want it to go any other way. I I kind of don't either. Seeing you guys pick us up and having that cool cooler feel full of coronas or whatever.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, was like beer and we had food ready to rock and roll.

SPEAKER_02

A fresh Stetson. I forgot about the Stetson. Not that I should ever forget, but damn.

SPEAKER_00

I kind of thought it would be hanging up in here, but it's kind of awkward that it's not hanging up.

SPEAKER_05

Instead, we have a White Sox hat hanging from the state. Well, let me tell you, it's a working Stetson. Yeah, it's it's gonna have some real use to it. So we need to start like a GoFundMe to get him like a casual Stetson every day.

SPEAKER_02

Well, I gotta get a summer straw on first. Yeah, you said that the other day. I can't like a like an old like Hank Williams hat. Like the big white ones.

SPEAKER_00

River hat.

SPEAKER_02

But he said the Amish one, he's not looking.

SPEAKER_03

Like what I wore on the river trip. No, it's still like the same shape. Cowboy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, you're talking about like I'm thinking 70.

SPEAKER_03

Texas hat or they're hardened.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know. Everybody would have their pins in their straw cowboy hat.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, think of uh Richard Petty. Yeah, the boss. At least one day. What was his STP number 42?

SPEAKER_02

Dude. News Panther. He's here. Hey, really quick, I think about three race cars in my life, and it's the STP, the mellow yellow, and the Hardy's. Not the Goodwrench?

SPEAKER_04

No. You're insane.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, you're gonna get we're gonna get it. Yeah, I don't know what you're talking about, Roddy. Sorry, but the two other ones are from uh Days of Thunder. Yeah. And uh those were as a child I had those match cars.

SPEAKER_05

What were that? It was Rowdy Rowdy and Oh shit, dude.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know it that well. I just know Hardy's stunning. That's uh Dale Earnhardt, right? Hell yeah, number three. The Intimidator. The Intimidator, yes, sir. Okay. He's fourth. That car's fourth. Okay. He's first. I'm a Jeff Gordon guy. Oh, geez.

SPEAKER_03

I'm kidding, dude. I'm kidding, dude. I'm kidding. Hey, that's okay. I'm okay with Gordon. He's earned it.

SPEAKER_05

But not back in the day.

SPEAKER_02

If I had to pick anybody from like the Jimmy Johnson, would it would have been mine? That guy was a phenom for a while.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, come on, man. Well, there we go. Jimmy. Who's the goat of racing? That's like liking Tom Brady. Richard Petty? Right, yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Is he is he considered YouTube? Or it'd end up being, or it'd probably be like Jimmy Johnson, Jeff Gordon, Dale Earnhardt.

SPEAKER_00

Probably older than us. Like than our memories.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, I remember Dale Earnhard. All right, Dan, we got a News Panther. Go for it. Bradley News Panther. No, Travis is doing it this week. Oh shit! Travis J's up on the mic.

SPEAKER_03

Special guest number two.

SPEAKER_02

Cool news.

SPEAKER_03

Let's go, bro. This uh story uh came from an independent study called The Ecological Inventory of a Modest Hoosier Backyard.

SPEAKER_02

Okay.

SPEAKER_03

This study study title?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Okay, okay verbatim. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

This study took place right here in Fort Wayne, Indiana, on a small plot of private urban land. In early summer 2026, modern day explorer, Travis White, BFA, CIB, spent a year and a half documenting all of the flora and fauna coming and going in his backyard and began to wonder how to attract more creatures, yet maintain his home's curb appeal. And I there was a typo here, it says spent a year and a half. It was an hour and a half. It wasn't that long. Right before a podcast he had to go to. I don't know. But uh after nearly ten years of low-bar lawn maintenance fighting neighboring backyard ecologies, Mr. White found enough F's to give. He was particularly inspired by cool con conservationists who appeared on the well spoken of Busted Knees and Pretty Trees podcast. Mr. White was struck with a transformative vision of the 132nd acre backyard sanctuary that will soon lay before him. A wonderland for man and animal alike. A world-class vision of beauty and harmony. Mr. White made sure to mention he is not a scientist, but to his credit, he is an expert in front of him with a fine arts degree. Or whatever the hell that's worth. I am in this. Anyway, the the study isn't complete. This was just this is just a portion of it.

SPEAKER_05

I mean an hour and a half didn't quite do it.

SPEAKER_03

No, it's a 130 second, very s small piece of land. Easy to identify. Anything in it. Uh so the inventory goes as such, because we gotta find out what we have. Was this assisted by like iNaturalist or something? Uh it was assisted by this new iPhone that I got, and I just wanted to take a bunch of pictures. And then uh Google actually does a really good job at like when you're looking at identifying them.

SPEAKER_02

So less than a year ago, Travis got data on his phone. Yeah. And then he was blown away by the idea of being able to listen to a downloaded song.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it got to the point where he could check weather when he's not at home.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, and it was fascinating. And then he gets a new phone, and within an hour and a half of the podcast, he's out in his backyard, just I naturalized everything. I was good, dude.

SPEAKER_03

I'd all my social medias were gone. Like I was almost down to just the basic functionality of the phone because every time I took another picture, I'd have to delete an app.

SPEAKER_01

Oh shit.

SPEAKER_03

I thought you were gonna say a picture. It was coming down to that. I have a problem.

SPEAKER_02

Well, welcome. Welcome.

SPEAKER_03

Welcome to the world of new technology. Yeah, this uh leap. I want to hear this inventory.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, teach us how you used it.

SPEAKER_03

Well, the study was done uh, you know, boots on the ground, out there in the field. Do you prefer the field work side of it or the office side of it? Just about to ask that question, dude. Just about to. Uh depends on the time of year, you know. It's summer. We were getting good weather, it's a little humid out. It's kind of hot. But it's not too bad for fieldwork. But I did come back and do the paperwork right after the fieldwork. And that wasn't as much fun. You're listening to the biggest thing. You gotta get like a milkshake or something. But I have a lone tree, which is a uh Snow Fountain's weeping cherry tree, which those are those decorative backyard. Most of these, yeah, are all uh implants. Plantain lilies, a rosebush, I think kitty caninum moth, which b bloomed beautifully this year, was a which was an absolute surprise because I just chopped the shit out of it right around springtime. They do like it. Got lucky on that one. I have a juniper shrub, I have a rhododendron, I have uh orange daylilies, various grasses, including uh a little bit of long hair sedge, ivy gourd, hydrohelix ivy, and white clover, which you should all be familiar with. I am. Uh that's where you get your little lucky uh shamrax, your four-leaf clover. And then Did you find one? I wasn't looking. Oh I was just looking at the flowers. And then I ran across this uh I don't know if you guys are familiar with the stinging nettle. I think there are many varieties of it, but there's one particular variety that has decides that it loves to grow around the back side of my garage on the north side where it's nice and shady. And every time I clear that damn thing out, if you touch it just a little bit on the stalks, it just it feels like it's burning and it's like between stinging and burning, and it lasts for a really long or not a long time, but it's really intense. You're making me feel itchy.

SPEAKER_00

Um It's supposed to be good for like arthritis and wild things like that. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

And I shit Kirsten's winning this trivia.

SPEAKER_05

That's just that's just why she had the best odds.

SPEAKER_02

That's like Steph Curry hitting a shot from across the court right before game time. Like now I'm psyched out.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, you want to I gave her a negative 100 odds to win.

SPEAKER_02

I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_03

You want to talk about winning big here? The stinging nettle was medicinal plant of the year in 96 and 22. Really? Heavy hitter. That's 26 years between championships, so that's a long time. Yeah. So um uh this is a very versatile plant. You can make nettle soup. Uh, it can be used to make coarse linens. Uh, you can extract, take extractions from it for insecticides, herbicides, stuff like that. Uh it's a good compost activator. Um, it can attract uh beneficial insects, such as the migrating red admiral butterfly caterpillar or caterpillar that turns into the butterfly. Into the red red admiral. Yeah, and that was one of those plants that I thought, ooh, that'd be nice to eradicate, you know. Yeah, violently. I like these. But now I'm thinking, time, maybe I need to just chill out on them. Yeah, did you let them grow out? The butterfly? Can you flip that computer around?

SPEAKER_04

Please.

SPEAKER_03

I just deleted it. Can you believe that though? Medical Plan of the Year? 96 and 22? There was some tough competition in 96. Weed.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, weed that I know that butterfly. Weed's always up there, man.

SPEAKER_03

All right. The Red Admiral.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Cool. I never knew that's what it was called.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and I I thought that that was something that maybe you guys would think was interesting. It's just a plant that every time I touch it, it hurts me.

SPEAKER_02

Honestly, I was in the idea of going out in my backyard with Google and taking photos of fucking everything and just documenting it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Sometimes on iPhones you can just swipe up on the photo and it says what it is. Oh, really? Like on the info of the photo.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, that is super interesting. Just getting a catalog of everything that you can see or touch in my backyard. That's what I'm gonna do.

SPEAKER_03

I want to start my little naturalist drawing book.

SPEAKER_02

Ooh, I probably won't draw them. Mine'll just be can you do stick figure grass? I mean, that's perfect for stick figure. Yeah, I know, I know. It was more of a couldn't be easier. Just bunch, just a bunch of lines.

SPEAKER_03

But uh yes, that's kind of I'm figuring out what I got. Um, see what I need to get rid of, what's beneficial to bring in you know, beneficial bugs and birds, animals, whatever. Um so yeah, that's the beginning of Mr. White's study into his urban wildlife habitat. Well, Mr. White certainly inspired me.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, but I have to have a spring 2027 check-in.

SPEAKER_02

So you're gonna end up keeping that, or Mr. White will end up keeping. Are we can we just say it's Travis?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, I think the cat's out of the bag at this point. Well, are you gonna end up keeping the I'm not a scientist, guys, but but I have to get a new cell phone. Yeah. Are you gonna end up keeping that? Uh I I'm not gonna let it like grow out of control. Maybe keep a you know, a couple plants around.

SPEAKER_00

A nettle soup eventually?

SPEAKER_03

Ooh, yeah. That's what maybe I should.

SPEAKER_05

Some nettle soup. Some recording night.

SPEAKER_02

Well, because I was gonna ask, like, do you think that it uh uh whatever it might be that you're gonna end up running into something else that you thought you were just gonna get rid of and eradicate so you could have a nice plush green yard or a good looking garden.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, just wait till you see a red Admiral butterfly this year. Yeah. You're gonna be like, oh fuck.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I'm not about this like perfect lush. It's only this kind of grass. I don't have anything coming in. I don't care. I like when the little purple flowers pop up like in the springtime in the yard. I think it looks really cool. Sometimes you get yellow ones and then you get the white clovers.

SPEAKER_02

What are the what are the yellow uh not what not dandelions? Yeah, I like those, but those are almost a hundred percent, right?

SPEAKER_03

I think so, aren't they?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think so as well. Yes, they are using the root.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, they are. But all full circle, we you guys were talking about this a couple weeks ago about how Indiana used to look, and I learned this a long time ago. But there used to be prairie all over the place that used to be very tall, and there's like one percent of it left, and that's it. And they're trying to save it, but and it's not even that good. It's really sad, but so you're doing your part to try to save the prairie around here.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, I think that's good. I'll do what I I do what I can, you know.

SPEAKER_02

As he stands with his hands on his hips staring into the sun.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I forgot to also tell you guys I had some greater burdock, uh, but that's that's invasive. I got some nice star moss patches in the drive. Uh, some dwarf mala.

SPEAKER_05

That's he's the cracks of the job. I know, I'm aware.

SPEAKER_03

And also some wild yam uh that vines up on the on the fence. Wild yam? Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Fancy.

SPEAKER_02

Nice. Yeah, that is nice. I will literally probably be outside tomorrow before bed scanning my backyard of all my stuff. Yeah, I think it's a good idea.

SPEAKER_03

My whole backyard is edible. Just take a little close-up picture and then of like the flower, the leaf. No, yeah, and then it'll be lines.

SPEAKER_00

And then you can identify it with your do you do you utilize it often?

SPEAKER_02

Well, we we just I I was never interested in a big plush, like they call it cosmetic landscaping. Yeah, I was never big into that either, but we we have apple trees back there, and the guy that we called to do our lawn, who I mentioned a couple times recently in the podcast, uh he ended, it's all uh organic and stuff, but then he was like, Well, if we had the apple trees, we could just plant everything that you could use as herbs, or like we have raspberries and other things, so everything in my backyard you can use either medicinally or for food. Well, we're on the subject.

SPEAKER_03

Well, we're on the subject of that kind of not your type of landscaping. What'd you call it? The cosmetic landscape. Cosmetic. Um, Jessica from the DNR we had on, she talked about how to put your uh mulch on the tree, and she said, do a donut. I remember that. Yeah. And I was like, well, I should probably see why. I was actually surprised. Like, why didn't you ask why? But um, so what it is is if you have that mulch up on up onto the bottom of the tree covering the roots, it allows moisture to just hold there, and then that invites it suffocates fungus, disease, uh, other animals.

SPEAKER_02

Wait, and say that one more time. Say the first part. It holds in the mouth piled up. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

It holds in the moisture. I got you. Yeah, too much moisture. We're gonna keep it dry. I mean, the tree is the the portions that is out of the ground is out of the ground for a reason. So you don't want to cover that up.

SPEAKER_02

I got you. Yeah. All right, dudes. Old Bradley R is up for trivia tonight. It's our first trivia of the season. That means it's been like almost nine weeks or ten weeks, something like that. Whatever. Yeah. Let's get into it though. This is gonna be fun. And we have Mama Kirsten in the house to see if she's gonna whip my ass.

SPEAKER_03

You give me uh something white and something to draw on it with. I'm pretty happy. Boom. All right, let's play a trivia.

SPEAKER_05

All right, as promised, we have a trivia night. To be uh completely transparent, we recorded five or we went through five questions already, and I forgot to start recording.

SPEAKER_03

You know, that takes a big person.

SPEAKER_05

Patty was totally winning, just so you guys want to give me my comments. I have to give Patty props.

SPEAKER_02

It's okay. For the first time in nine seasons, I'm I'm I I was about to win one or at least had a commanding lead. But you know what, dude? I didn't even want to mention lead. Let's move forward and do another round of trivia, this time recorded, right? Yep, we are we are recording.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, we can all see.

SPEAKER_02

I like that idea. On air. Yeah, on air will be cool.

SPEAKER_05

All right. So I came up with five additional questions to replace the five original questions. So we're good to go. Question one Which of these conifer trees is one of the few that drops its needles every fall? Is it A, the Eastern White Pine? B, the blue spruce, C, the giant sequoia, the giant sequoia. Sequoia. Sequoia.

SPEAKER_03

Was the second time?

SPEAKER_05

Or D, the bald cypress. Just gonna move right on. Can you give me those again? I was laughing. The eastern white pine, the blue spruce, the giant sequoia, or the bald cypress. One that drops its needles every fall. Alright, show your boards.

SPEAKER_01

Can I pick a different one?

SPEAKER_05

Pearson, what the fuck?

SPEAKER_01

I'll take it.

SPEAKER_05

Pearson is A, White Pine, Chabby, Bald Cypress, Patty, Bald Cypress. The answer is bald cypress. So conifers are considered evergreen trees because many of them, many of them do retain their foliage. I can't speak today. Year-round. So the few exceptions are the bald cypress, the dawn redwood, and the larch tree being the others. But they all turn some short of some shade of orange and then the needles fall off. And it sounds like the larch tree turns like a golden orange. Whoa. I've never seen that. I'm not sure I ever have either. But it's a pretty abundant tree. Apparently, in Serbia, it's like everywhere. I've not been there. Yeah. That's where the sounds cool. Uh what's the Russian jails that were in Serbia? I think that's Siberia. That's Siberia. Well, I'm in Siberia. Golden Eye. Yeah. I've never been there either. Yeah. The gulag.

SPEAKER_02

Have you never been to Siberia?

SPEAKER_05

No.

SPEAKER_02

Only Mamma.

SPEAKER_05

Not officially, not on record.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, I just want to point out really quick because we have a new recording going on right now, that this game, there is some skin on the. Oh shoot, I forgot.

SPEAKER_05

Yes. So we're playing for the goodies that are in the bag eye, bro. I definitely did. So I have some birthday tea cakes from Fresh Market.

SPEAKER_02

Which Brad is now the only one to have eaten. I've already eaten two missing.

SPEAKER_05

No, there's no there's one missing. Oh, okay. There's gonna be two missing. Let's get back. Let's get past the sweethouse. I brought two horns of cheese from the famous ginger fresh grocery store in Austin, Indiana. World famous. Chipotle Jack and Firecracker Jack, which are two of my favorites. We're talking like a pound of cheese.

SPEAKER_02

It's a big chunk of cheese. And this old boy happens to be a cheese guy. Oh, yeah. Dude, go, baby. It's a variety.

SPEAKER_05

Winner gets to choose one of the above.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, do we cover the odds that you put?

SPEAKER_05

Maybe I shouldn't have you. Maybe I shouldn't have said or eaten one of those tea cakes because I would rather keep both things of cheese. Nope. Nope. Uh yeah. Cover the odds? Yeah, the odds that I set for this round are Kirsten at negative 100, Patty at negative 500, and Travis at negative 300.

SPEAKER_02

Did those odds change at all since you made five new questions? I don't think so. Okay, so I'm still looked at, even though I was like, I want you to be an underdog. You want me to keep using that motivation? Okay. Okay.

SPEAKER_05

Okay. Okay. All right. Question number two. What is the largest whale in the ocean? Is it A, the blue whale, B, the humpback whale, C the Orca, or D the gray whale? The largest whale in the ocean. Did Patty wrote down real quick? Everybody's getting their answers down. Some of these in my head sounded like they would like I I would have struggled with this one.

SPEAKER_02

I feel like I'm not sure about the gray whale. That throws me into a little bit of a spam.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, what do you guys have? A. A. The blue whale. That is correct. Yes.

SPEAKER_03

Got it.

SPEAKER_05

Not only is it the largest whale in the ocean, it is the largest animal ever known to have lived on earth. Including the biggest dinosaurs that we know about. And still living.

SPEAKER_03

And that's great. Right. I'm glad you threw a softball because I was thinking about those mustard pickled eggs they got there at GingerFresh. Yeah. Those things are muddy.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Um they have a blue whale hanging up, I believe, maybe in the Smithsonian at DC or the Smithsonian at in Chicago.

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Oh.

SPEAKER_02

Natural History Museum. I'm not sure which one. Is it?

SPEAKER_01

I think it I think it must be in Chicago.

SPEAKER_00

Chicago? Because I think I've seen what you're talking about.

SPEAKER_03

Is it the bones hanging from the ceiling?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, it's like a big like whale, like full size. It's a full-size blue whale hanging at the top. Yeah, it's pretty cool, man.

SPEAKER_05

So they can be up to 100 feet long, which is around three school buses, 400,000 pounds, and have a heart the size of a small car.

SPEAKER_03

That doesn't make any sense.

SPEAKER_05

They eat four tons of krill a day, and krill are tiny little fish. Four tons of krill. All right. Next question. So everybody got that right. You guys are keeping score, right?

SPEAKER_03

I have two. Okay. Two, one.

SPEAKER_05

This uh this question comes from Sean, fellow outdoors enthusiast. What's up, Sean?

SPEAKER_03

I've always wanted to shout out somebody like I was just on a radio. What's up? I was calling in or something.

SPEAKER_05

What's up, Sean? All right. Uh, what do you call a collective of flamingos? Oh. Is it A a Parliament? B, a flamboyance, C, a crash, or D, a kaleidoscope. These are all actual terms that describe collectives of animals. But which one describes flamingos? What are A and B again? Parliament, flamboyance, crash, or kaleidoscope?

SPEAKER_02

I'm sure they're all cool names. I'm tossed between two, and I think I know the answer. I think we talked about it before. Yeah, because I think it actually like I'm envisioning a bunch of monocles.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, I think I've seen that before. Uh flamboyance from Travis, flamboyance from Kirsten, Parliament from Patty. The answer is flamboyance. Oh, that was the other one. That was the other one. So we have a parliament of owls, a crash of rhinos, and a kaleidoscope of butterflies.

SPEAKER_00

I knew the rhinos.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Some of them might be crash? Crash of rhinos. That is awesome.

SPEAKER_00

But what are the butterflies?

SPEAKER_05

A kaleidoscope of butterflies.

SPEAKER_00

That's pretty magic.

SPEAKER_05

That's pretty bad.

SPEAKER_03

I don't feel like they're trying hard enough on the own.

SPEAKER_00

What?

SPEAKER_03

It's like, eh. All the colors.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. You're winning, so that's why you can say that.

SPEAKER_02

What's the scores now? I have two. If I don't win, I'm gonna be bitter. I already deal with that. You want the cheese?

SPEAKER_05

Travis has three, Patty has two, Kirsten has two. Yep. Question number four. What is the unit of measurement used to represent river flow, also known as discharge, in the USA? An example would be wind speed is measured in miles per hour. So is it a square feet per second or SFS or cubic inches per second, which is CIS, cubic feet per second, or CFS, or cubic meters per second, CMS. If you were paying attention to our river planning chat, Patty's talked about this before. Run through those again. Square feet per second, cubic inch per second, cubic feet per second, cubic meter per second. Measurement of river flow in the USA. Alright, everybody's got an answer. Pearson CFS. Patty CFS. Oh shit, Travis is still right. I hope he's not cheating. I don't know. Meters cubed per second. It's in the USA. Oh no, it didn't mean per second.

SPEAKER_03

No, I wrote the wrong one.

SPEAKER_05

You wrong. Damn it. So river flow is measured as volume over time, and cubic feet per second represents one cubic foot of water passing a given point in one second.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. This close to America's birthday. Mr.

SPEAKER_05

Metric over here.

SPEAKER_03

This close to America's birthday. I freaking just fell on my ass. It's funny because I did stepped on my dick.

SPEAKER_05

I did square feet, cube inch, cube feet, and I was like, shit, what's the fourth one gonna be? I was like, oh, meters.

SPEAKER_03

As soon as you said meter, I was like, eh, nope. But then I wrote it.

SPEAKER_02

Right? And I spent a better part of a week describing CFS to both of you.

SPEAKER_05

I think he said the word CFS three times tonight. Tons. All right. Uh we're tied up. Question number five. Which U.S. state touches the most number of Great Lakes? Is this A, Michigan, B, Ohio, C, Wisconsin, or D, New York? Touches the most number of Great Lakes.

SPEAKER_03

You did this question before. There's another one.

SPEAKER_05

I thought I I thought before I did I thought I said has the most like uh footage along the shoreline of the Great Lakes.

SPEAKER_00

Say it again though.

SPEAKER_05

Which US state touches the most number of Great Lakes? Michigan, Ohio, Wisconsin, or New York?

SPEAKER_02

I mean, I'm I mean, I feel like it's just hard to not. I don't even have a fucking answer.

SPEAKER_05

I'm just going with the Abbey, like the one I would be like Travis, Michigan, Kirsten, Michigan. Oh fuck.

SPEAKER_02

No, don't say anything.

SPEAKER_05

Well, I just said the two ans they're their two answers. Well, I can see them too.

SPEAKER_03

When the bell goes off, you're done. You know the thing. Like your odds get better if you choose something different.

SPEAKER_02

No, just to be even, Steve. It's Michigan. Is it? Well, honestly, that's what I was gonna guess. That's what I figured, yeah. Because like you kind of that's why I said like you just gotta go with the you know, it's like duh.

SPEAKER_04

Helps that it has like a separate peninsula.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and we're going like we just went to Huron. We're gonna go to Lake Michigan. Up north is Lake Superior. I mean, it's like right there, is fucking done.

SPEAKER_03

And then Lake. You need to be slower on the draw, Kirsten. I thought it was daddy's fault.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, that was that was my fault. That was my fault.

SPEAKER_00

But that means we're all tied.

SPEAKER_02

If it mattered, I had A written down, then erased it because it was that last question seasons ago fucked me up.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Because there was something you asked where I was, but I remember it being like Delaware was the answer, some shit. Yeah. You know what I mean? Yeah, there was some.

SPEAKER_05

It may have been which of these states touched the or do not touch the Great Lakes. That's what it was. That that might have been Yeah, and it was like Wisconsin, New York, I said New York, like a dumbass.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I remember. I felt dumb.

SPEAKER_05

I always remember that. Question number six. We're all tied up? I have four. Fours. Fours. How much does a bald eagle's nest weigh on average?

SPEAKER_03

Okay. Is it that'd be insane if they were just like it's gonna weigh this match?

SPEAKER_05

There's inspectors that come to check it out. It's A 200 pounds, B, 500 pounds, C 1000 pounds, or D 1500 pounds. How much does a bald eagle's nest weigh? They got some big sticks up there.

SPEAKER_00

Say that again.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Uh 200 pounds, 500 pounds, 1,000 pounds, or 1,500 pounds. It's a lot of pounds. But think about lifting up a stack of logs and carrying them to a campfire or something. All right. Wood weighs a lot.

SPEAKER_02

It's dense. If it's good firewood, it shouldn't weigh as much weight that you're getting that you're have there at the end.

SPEAKER_05

It could be 200 pounds. It could be 500 pounds or a thousand or 1500 pounds.

SPEAKER_00

I'm just thinking of in a tree, how much that is. I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. I might answer this time before you become a few.

SPEAKER_05

A creature of habit. 500 from Travis, 200 from Kirsten, and 500 from Patty. Oh, the first blackout, everybody's wrong. Oh the answer is C 1,000 pounds. 1,000 pounds? And that's the average weight's 1,000 to 2,000 pounds. That's so insane. Wow. The average dimensions are four to six feet wide and two to four feet deep, with the largest record ever recorded in a nest from St. Petersburg, Florida, weighing nearly 6,000 pounds, three tons. Holy mouth. 9.5 feet across and 20 feet deep. What kind of tree was they were just building?

SPEAKER_03

You know what kind of tree that was?

SPEAKER_05

I looked that up, and a lot of times they'll do like um cypress, um cottonwood, American elm, like big, big, tall trees. Because they're always like a high point and like a tree line. And because that was gonna be one of the questions I was gonna ask is what tree? But it's like a lot of different trees depending on the region.

SPEAKER_00

That's like as big as this room. That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

That's huge. Yeah, it's wild. But if you look at that Jackie and Shadow webcam, like you the it's right on the nest. So there, I mean, those birds are up there just fucking around all day. Like they got room to practice flying and shit. There's a ton of room. All four of them are can stand in that nest and have plenty of room.

SPEAKER_03

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_05

That's crazy.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah, mind blown for real. Do they do they pack it with mud and stuff, you know, like a robin's nest? It's like a brick.

SPEAKER_05

They are always working on it, though. Like they're always working on it. The one at Eagle Marsh, I feel like they might have abandoned because half of it's like hanging down. Because a lot of times the bottom will fall off and they'll just keep building it up.

SPEAKER_03

That's pretty sweet.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Pretty cool. Really cool. Just keep stacking that wood.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, question number seven. What year did the first person complete the North Country Trail?

SPEAKER_03

What year the North Country Trail?

SPEAKER_05

Is it A nineteen seventy, B ninete, C ninete, or D 2000? Overed a lot of decades there. Um I Patrick has a very confused look on his face.

SPEAKER_02

Well is the North Country Trail's not even done being done.

SPEAKER_05

No, that's that's not what the question was. Is it done? Does it have to be done for you to complete it? That's the question. Oh no. So technically the real question, I mean the trail. When did Congress appear to be a national scenic trail? The trail's always been there, bro. Yeah, bro. You need a trail to hike?

SPEAKER_03

Come on, bro. It's like a a sculpture in the marble. It's always it's always been there.

SPEAKER_02

He's like, I was expecting, even if there was a I was expecting an answer or a question of never. Oh. Because nobody's done it.

SPEAKER_03

Because it hasn't been governmentally sanctioned. What's the years again? No.

SPEAKER_05

Like they were literally built 1970, 1978, 1990, 2000. Man, 1990. What a great year to be alive. The aughts too, man. Oh, yeah. There's early aughts. New metal. The horizon was just bright. Double O. 20 aughts. 2 Ott 9, 2 Ot seven. What are you talking about? Shooting guns? No, what a great time to be alive.

SPEAKER_01

30 aught six.

SPEAKER_05

All right. Everybody show your answers. Patty C 1990. Kirsten 1978. Travis 78. Man, Travis and Kirsten got it right. Damn. Woo! So the first end-to-end through hike of the North Country Trail was completed by hikers Carolyn Hoffman and Luann Fellows.

SPEAKER_01

Woo woo!

SPEAKER_05

They completed the entire track that year. They followed it strictly. The proposed route that was officially designated by Congress. So it wasn't like done yet. Congress had just designated it a trail and they just went out and did the damn thing. Nice. Hell yeah.

SPEAKER_03

We need to bring back old people names. Luane Fellows? Yeah. I was looking through our family book and we had Mary Adeline. My grandpa was Aubrey Owen.

SPEAKER_05

Aubrey's a sweet. I had a great great grandpa named Rolston. That's a sweet name. That's a very cool.

SPEAKER_00

Free goal name.

SPEAKER_05

Very nice. Fitting of a greer. All right. On that note, question number eight. This one is an offshoot of uh a listener question or my beloved girlfriend Sarah. Uh I asked her a question the first round that we weren't recording, so this is a spin-off of that. Had to give her a shout out.

SPEAKER_01

Hey Sarah, woo!

SPEAKER_05

How long does a worker honey bee live during the summertime? Because it's different between winter and summer.

SPEAKER_02

This isn't the I question.

SPEAKER_05

Does he like really live in though? Yeah, living the best life in the world.

SPEAKER_03

Well, I guess it's she. Are all honeybee workies female life, dude?

SPEAKER_05

Living the bees that's like. Oh, yeah. Uh is it A, two weeks, B, four to six weeks, C, four to six months, or D, one year? Two weeks, four to six weeks, four to six months, or one.

SPEAKER_00

Kind of changed the question with how you asked it, but oh man.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, Gearson's pissed at you, Brad. Wow. Kirsten's talking some shit. Because I changed the question? Yeah. No, I don't actually know why. Kirsten, talk some shit to Brad.

SPEAKER_00

No, I'll once we reveal the answer.

SPEAKER_02

If she's not right, dude, then she talks some shit. That's great. I was iffy about this question.

SPEAKER_00

But you should definitely shout out whatever Sarah's question was. Because that was pretty intriguing and I would never have guessed that.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's a good idea.

SPEAKER_05

What was Sarah's? How many eyes does a honey bee have? Oh yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03

No.

SPEAKER_05

I told her I said, I'm writing trivia questions for the episode, and she said, How many eyes does a honey bee have? Yeah. And it was very intriguing.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. We need to shout out Brad for this question for lack of research. Not Sarah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Pearson and Patty are correct. Four to six weeks. Only weeks?

SPEAKER_03

So the And all you do is work your whole life.

SPEAKER_05

They're foraging for nectar and pollen, which is completely exhausting. So summer bees are literally working themselves to death in four to six weeks.

SPEAKER_00

Okay. I wasn't talking shit. I was just saying that he kind of gave us a clue with the summer months.

SPEAKER_05

Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, because so that kind of limits anything longer.

SPEAKER_05

Well, they do, yeah, that is definite. But they distinct they say summer and winter worker bees.

SPEAKER_00

Well, because they hibernate kind of.

SPEAKER_02

That's how I guess mine though.

SPEAKER_00

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

So it can't be months because now you're going into the next year.

SPEAKER_03

Little hints and do they hibernate like if they're if it's a cold weather place?

SPEAKER_05

They keep the queen warm and they're not out pollinating. They're not out in the wild, you know, getting eaten by bugs. They're like birds and shit.

SPEAKER_00

But closer to the equator is different, right?

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it does say it is dependent entirely on specific role in the country. Colony, the time of year, and the location. What do you got on bee farm? So queen bees, two to three years, up to five years.

SPEAKER_02

So Sarah's question living the beast life.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Had to be a worker bee, man.

SPEAKER_05

So as a fun side note, how many eyes do honey bees have? The answer's five. I got it right. Five.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah.

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Paddy.

SPEAKER_03

Two compound and three other uh up above that look like a triangle from a cult sort of symbol.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. And the three eyes are used for mainly like navigation.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. Brad said it more eloquently before the Travis and I hijacked that.

SPEAKER_03

What about navigating? Do they like uh That's what the three eyes are for? Well, I mean like they're trail like following trails and stuff. Quantum mechanics? That's what birds use to navigate. Do they sense magnetic fields?

SPEAKER_05

I don't know. We're not getting into that. Question number nine. Question number nine. How many woodpeckers are native to the United States?

SPEAKER_03

This also seems like a very familiar question.

SPEAKER_05

Is it A, B, 12, C 22, or D 35? How many woodpeckers are native to the United States? This one I would have to stop and think about. Say again.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah. 8, 12, 22, 35. Wait, you're telling me if somebody came up to you and said, how many woodpeckers you would be like, oh done. I'd have to stop and think about that. For sure. I don't know how I wouldn't know.

SPEAKER_05

All right. Show your answers. Patty 22, Kirsten 12, Travis 8. Patty cakes, patty cakes. Yes. Who deserves to win? My man. Types of woodpeckers throughout the U.S. do really vary west coast to east coast, and that's where you get the variation, is on the different coast. Here in Indiana, where we are, there's like eight to ten woodpeckers, and then out west, there's a lot that are not out here. Alright, next question. That's a fun fact. Oh man. There's a lot that are not out here.

SPEAKER_02

I was gonna say something that looked at Travis kind of like smirking, like, I'm gonna say something. I'm gonna say something like that. Well, you gotta hear that.

SPEAKER_05

I just wrote these questions. I know. And I'm going off of tabs where I have them all open. Oh, that's funny. Oh, here's a fun fact. Okay, here's your woodpecker fun fact.

SPEAKER_02

I know what you're about to say.

SPEAKER_05

Do you know when you hear them tapping? I probably told all of you this. When you hear them tapping really rapid fire on a piece of wood, like the classic sound you would hear. That's not them digging in the wood for insects. That's them calling.

SPEAKER_03

It's communication.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, it's a form of territorial calling and mating. Calling for the mate. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. And I I never knew that. I didn't know that. You told me that I don't know, like a month ago.

SPEAKER_00

And um a river trip, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. Also two weeks ago. But well, and then I saw I was uh observing a hummingbird as he was actually chipping away at it, and it's just like he's swinging it, swinging it on it.

SPEAKER_05

They're going at it.

SPEAKER_03

It's crazy. And it doesn't make it like that hollow sound that you think it does. It's like they're chopping away. It's thuds.

SPEAKER_02

Dude, I watched that uh that PBS documentary that Brad referenced. Oh, yeah. It is really good.

SPEAKER_05

Do you see that? Yeah, it is really good. Do you see the acorn woodpeckers?

SPEAKER_02

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_05

Everybody look up videos of acorn woodpeckers. They're insane.

SPEAKER_02

It's thousands of holes in this tree. The tree looks cool. Like I would chop a check a little section of that tree off, take it home with me. It's cool.

SPEAKER_05

Put like uh varnish over it and like lock the acorns in it.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, it's incredible that they're just the holes are just deep enough to get them below the surface.

SPEAKER_05

It's wild. Super cool. Yeah. All right. Last question. Can we get a score update? I have six.

SPEAKER_02

Six.

SPEAKER_05

Five. Oh, damn. How many questions do we have? This is the last question. But I do have a tiebreaker question. All right. Which oh man, this is an interesting last question, too. Which of the main through hike trails have the highest peak? Which one of these, like the main through hike trails? AT, C D T PCT, or NCT. Atlantic or Appalachian Trail, Continental Divide Trail, Pacific Crest Trail, North Country Trail. Which one has the highest peak?

SPEAKER_00

Like along the route.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah. Anywhere along the official route. I mean, it's gotta be between Don't tell me, bro. Tell your whiteboard. Okay. Well, I I do want to hear you evaluate it though.

SPEAKER_02

I mean it the okay, I'll just do it. Fuck like fuck it, right? No, I already uh wait, I don't know. You guys show your answer and then I'll explain. Do you have your answer written down?

SPEAKER_04

No.

SPEAKER_02

Write it down. Well, that's what I'm fucking saying. C T P C T. It's gotta be one of those two. There's no doubt about it. Because what's the highest peak on the.

SPEAKER_05

But the NCT cuts through some of the same ranges that. No, yeah, I don't know. I I guess I don't know where it starts.

SPEAKER_03

S E C. Securities.

SPEAKER_05

Alright, uh, let's see what those answers are. Which one's the PCT? Pacific Crest Trail C. Oh, we got three different answers. Oh, and this is for the win. Oh, man.

SPEAKER_02

Or tie. Why? What's the score?

SPEAKER_00

Well, okay, I gotta do that. I gotta say what I have to say though. I thought the PCT was a pack mule trail, so it doesn't go necessarily as high.

SPEAKER_05

Well, is that your thought process? Yeah. Okay. That would make sense.

SPEAKER_00

Because the AT was established before they gave uh any cares about that. Yeah. Censored.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but nothing on the ACE on the AT in my thought process, mind you. I could be dead ass wrong. But in my thought process, nothing on the AT, even the highest is not as high as who was your guest that you had on that did all of these. Yeah, the John Cable. Yeah. That's true.

SPEAKER_00

He was saying that the AT was way more difficult because the A the elevation change, and you're going through all those 20 The change, but it wasn't that high. What's in the Vermont?

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it was the uh the White The White Mountains. Yeah, the White Mountains, yeah. Travis, do you have any uh frame of thought for your answer?

SPEAKER_03

My frame of thought was uh uh Rocky Mountains, the middle of the country. Yeah, right, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I would agree with Rocky Mountain. It was either gonna be the PCT or the CDT for me. That was it. But I'm curious, but I'm curious. Kirsten gets the win on this, I feel like a doucher, which is normal.

SPEAKER_05

Oh man. All right. So to review, Patrick has PCT. Yeah. Not to not the I'm a because it is.

SPEAKER_00

I feel like I'm basing this totally off of that.

SPEAKER_03

PCT is like right on the coast, like the water.

SPEAKER_00

Like water level, right? Not necessarily it goes into the inland.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, the sea trail. Coast trail. Yeah, there's a bit of common that is common. I've been fighting with that for a long time.

SPEAKER_00

And it was a pack mule trail, so I don't know.

SPEAKER_05

All right, the John Muir Trail section of the PCT features the highest peak of any major through hike in the USA.

SPEAKER_00

Go, go, buddy.

SPEAKER_03

Patty got his cheese.

SPEAKER_05

I got my cheese. Technically, Mount Whitney's like a little side uh hustle on them on the PCT, but it's kind of like you're there, you're not that far away, it's like half a mile. But that's Forester Pass, and it's 14,505 feet. And the Continental Divide Trail has Grays Peak or Mount Albert, which is like around 14,000 feet, so like 500 feet shorter. That's dirty.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, because you gotta think out out there. Uh Jonathan might have been right in that it felt like elevation gain.

SPEAKER_00

Gradual elevation.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, but just sea level wise, you're just way above.

SPEAKER_05

Yeah, 14,000 feet. That's pretty high. Yeah. Yeah. Let's go. Yeah, Patty. Patty win. Do your sound effect.

SPEAKER_02

Do your sound effect.

SPEAKER_05

Um eat it up. Which one?

SPEAKER_02

Eat it up. The center. All the people clapping for me. Not the horn. Come on. Where is it? Yay! There we go, dude. Hell yeah! I finally gotta win. I'm pretty sure it's been nine seasons and now I'm on the board, dude. Nine seasons. Are we winning season nine? You've never you've won before, right? I don't remember winning. I mean, this is kind of a big And I get a wheel of cheese. Yeah, that's the I don't know if that maybe may not quite top sourdough chocolate chip cookies, but uh you bros dangle a wheel of cheese in front of me, and I'm gonna do everything I can to get these old tickers firing.

SPEAKER_05

Noted and and give you odds of an the underdog.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, dude, yeah, you yeah. I'm a competitor, Bradley.

SPEAKER_00

But it was also fitting that you won because you won the first five questions.

SPEAKER_02

I was only two points. You had the lead. I had the lead with five questions left. But I'm thankful to win tonight. And Bradley, I gotta say, the first round that wasn't recorded, the second part, the first round of the second part that was recorded, and the second part of your second part that was recorded all sounded fucking wonderful.

SPEAKER_05

That was a super fun night. How many did you get, right? Total? Six. I got ten right. Oh, so that's pretty good. That means they weren't too hard. Oh, you were you kept adding a bunch of the lab?

SPEAKER_02

Super hard questions. Just ask these two idiots.

SPEAKER_05

But not too hard. I feel like if you get at least like over 550%, that's a good that's not too hard.

SPEAKER_02

Hey, dude, you could have asked me the hardest question ever. And I would have gotten it right.

SPEAKER_05

Like, how deep was Crater Lake?

SPEAKER_02

Well, first I have to understand exactly where the bottom starts and ends.

SPEAKER_05

At lava.

SPEAKER_02

That's where the bottom starts.

SPEAKER_05

That's we didn't that question's not even recorded about Crater Lake. Forgot about that.

SPEAKER_02

Well, we'll cut this out. Or maybe not. Yep.

SPEAKER_03

Uh side trails. Let's get out of here. We've been trying to start that since the beginning. Let's finish this up. I had a wonderful time. Travis, take us out, bro. Kirsten, thank you so much for coming and doing the show with us. I know you were reluctant because we were like, you gotta do it, you gotta do it. You're like, gonna be sick. No, don't think so. But uh don't say that, bro. All right, uh thanks for listening, everybody. Keep on sauntering. Cha. See you later. See ya.

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