Pastor Tammie Watson 🎤 A Speech Impediment Becomes A Platform For Preaching

Doctors told Tammie  Watson she might never talk and that one sentence could have rewritten her entire life. Instead, her story becomes a living testimony of healing faith, a worship-driven childhood in holiness church, and a calling that refuses to stay quiet. We sit down together and go back to the early days: singing as a little girl, watching God move in services marked by prayer and deliverance, and developing a hunger for the Holy Ghost that never lets up. 

Tammie opens up about the speech impediment she still lives with and why it made preaching feel impossible, even while music felt natural. Then she shares what changed, how God pushed her into her “yes,” and why her ministry name became Limitless Worship. The turning point is unforgettable: preaching under a tent with almost no one in sight, only to learn her neighbors were listening from their homes and following her voice down the road. If you’ve ever felt unseen, unsupported, or stuck in a small beginning, this testimony speaks directly to that place. 

We also go deep on Christian mental health, transparency, and the courage to get help. Tammie explains why “I’m fine” can become a trap, how isolation fuels depression, and why therapy, community prayer, and real faith can belong in the same sentence. We end on what’s ahead: gospel music, a new project, and a book shaped by wilderness seasons and hard-won growth. If this conversation strengthens you, subscribe, share it with a friend, and leave a review so more listeners can find it.

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Welcome And Guest Introduction

SPEAKER_00 1:12

Hello! Welcome back to another episode of Regina's Corn Audio Series President. Today, this morning, I have an outstanding woman of God with me. Outstanding. And I do mean outstanding. This woman, I've known her for years. I know her since she was a little girl. And now she is really just doing her thing in the name of Jesus, if I can say. She's a mother. She's a business owner, entrepreneur. Uh she owned her own business, you know, like uh like catering business. She um she's a singer, songwriter, um pastor, just a woman of God. There's so many titles to to to name. I would probably miss something. So I'm just saying as many as I can say, 'cause there's so many. But I would like for you all to help me welcome to my podcast today, Pastor Tammy Watson. Hello, good morning, Pastor.

SPEAKER_02 2:30

Good morning, good morning, hello. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 2:34

What an introduction.

SPEAKER_00 2:37

I I am so thankful to God to have you on the podcast today. I'm really I've been waiting for this for some time and I just thank God to have you here, you know, a part of the podcast. Um, 'cause we've been trying to do this now for a minute. Yes, we have been trying to do this for a minute. Well, yeah, we've been trying it. Yes. Yes, ma'am, we have. Um I don't want no background noise there, but anyways, but I thank God for you because you have been a blessing in my life over the years. I I I remember you as a little girl, you know. So like I'm telling y'all, we go back a long way. I I remember this young lady when she was a little girl. A little girl. And she has always had that that fire in her. You know, you you can always look at a person and you can always tell when someone is destined for greatness. If I can say so. And you know, I was looking at a video as we were speaking before we started recording. We were talking earlier how I was watching excuse me, a video of her singing at the church that we attended, and she was up seeing her heart out and just up there a little kid, I think no couldn't have been no more than like maybe ten or eleven. Yeah. Yeah. And it and touched you had that microphone in your hand singing like I mean, like you do now. It's just that you you was all into it. You know, you was really told just oh my god, just and you could just tell looking back now, and looking at that now, and then looking at you now, I'm like, Wow, okay, now I see that young lady has been uh destined for this for the whole time. Yeah, I think he's in the right word. Tell her something about you. Tell the tell it to me. I want you to speak because I've I've I've said enough. But I want to say this before she talks. I I feel the anointing on whenever um uh Pastor Tammy um Watson seeing speak, I feel that anointing. She this this woman, this young woman is highly, highly anointed. And I when I mean when I say highly, I'm not just talking lightly, I mean highly anointed enough to if you're feeling bad or if you're feeling down, if you're feeling you can be healed. You you can get a blessing if you really grab a hold to a little bit of faith. And I just thank God for you so much. I don't know if you talk. I don't know if you talk. I'm sorry I've been carried away, but tell us something about tell us something about you.

Saved Young And Filled With Power

SPEAKER_02 5:38

Well, I just I first want to just really give honor to God who's the head of my life. I wanna thank you for this opportunity. Um, I don't take this lightly. I'm very honored. Um, because as you were saying, I we've known each other for so long. I grew up and Jackson took a holiness church watching your family sing, you and your sister being under the anointing. And you guys were such inspiration to us. Um when we was younger growing up in this in the music industry and ministry period, listening to you guys, listening to your albums, listening to your songs. We would get around the house and play church and and playing church, we would we would pick which sister we wanted to be in. And you know, ironically, this is so funny. I will always pick I Sister Regina, because I'm gonna hit the high note. That was me. I wanted to, I I had to. So we would get around the house and we would sing your songs, and my mom would play your records nonstop, and we used, we used sing, we would knew all of you guys' music, we would sing them, we would put them in, we would play them in the cars, and um we grew up in a different, you know, um, we grew up in a different type of uh environment, you know, where holiness was real and and the word of God was, you know, placed in our hearts. So from a very young age, I took ministry serious, I took um singing serious whenever I had the opportunity. Mother Jackson used to say, whenever you come into the house of God or where whenever you wake up and you have the opportunity, you give God praise. He deserves it. And so I took that literally. So every time I would grab the mic, I gave God the best energy I had. You know, I didn't know, you know, I didn't know no other way to do it. Mother Jackson said, You give God your all. And I was like, hey, I'm gonna give him my all. Even if I didn't understand what I was doing completely, I was gonna give God my all. So Yeah, it's been that way since I was a little girl. Um actually started singing when I was about to around the age of maybe I think it was four or five years old. I wrote that in one of my bios. Um my mom started about singing in the primary choir when we was little. From there, um we sung and I was family group. And um I guess I could tell a little bit about myself. Um, yeah, I'm a the middle child of seven kids. My mom had was blessed with five boys and two girls. We all sing. We all minister. Yeah. And in some way, form or fashion. Um we were all raised at Jackson Temple Holiness Church. Um, my mom and dad was ministers there. Still, my dad is still the assistant pastor um at Jackson Temple. My mom still ministers as well. Um I've been ministering, um, I I was saved completely at the age of 10 years old. I never forget this, Sister Regina. Um Monday night terror service. Monday night terror service. And we was on our knees praying, seeking God, because I really wanted it for real. I was looking around and I said, God, I see the people being saved. I had a hunger in my heart at such a young age for ministry. I had a hunger at such a young age for God, you know, seeing him move, seeing the miracles that was being worked through our uh late founder, Prophetess Mother Jackson, seeing God move in such a profound way, seeing souls being saved and being delivered, yokes being broken and people's lives being changed to never go back to be the same. It was it touched me. I was a peculiar child. I I I paid attention to those things, you know, where you know, other kids they would come to church, they would play and have. I came to church and I paid attention to what was going on. And I used to say, God, God, I want that. I want that anointing. I want that closeness with you at such a young age. I wanted that closeness. So um I remember uh at the age of 10, we was doing a Torah service, and I saw the the uh the saints of God praying on the altar being filled with the Holy Ghost uh Monday after Monday. I said, God, I want that. I want that experience, I want to feel that. So this particular Monday, I'll never forget it was March, I want to say March the 16th or the 17th. I was 10 years old and I was on that altar and I was praying, and I and I I said, I told God, I said, tonight I'm gonna experience you. No, I I want to experience you tonight. And pastor, she's pastor now, uh, Jackie Ingram, she saw me begin to come over, she began to tarry with me. Um I didn't even know when Mother Jackson came into church. She hadn't arrived yet, but I don't even know when she came in. And the and uh Pastor Jackie began to uh tarry with me for the Holy Ghost, and she began to pray. The Holy Spirit began to hit me, and I began to, you know, to shout under the anointing. And her and Mother Jackson slayed me in the floor. Mother Jackson, I don't know where Mother came from, but she came and she got in my other ear. She said, God, bring her forth with the Holy Ghost. Don't just say, but fill her with the Holy Ghost and power. And they sat there, they tarried with me on that floor until I came through with the Holy Ghost. At nine years old. I didn't forget the feeling I felt when I got about that floor. I felt, I felt like an out-of-body experience, like newness. My eyes were open. I saw different. I felt different. I I it's it's like something came over me. I I knew that I was me, but it was like I was no longer my own. It was oh my, it was such a feeling that I cannot explain. And I was age of 10 years old, you know?

SPEAKER_01 11:21

Ten years old. Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 11:25

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:26

Ten years old.

SPEAKER_00 11:27

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 11:28

Ten years old, yeah. Yeah, I always had a love for ministry. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:35

You were hungry. You were you were ready.

SPEAKER_02 11:38

Yes, I was. Yes, I was. I was ready for it. I told God, I said, listen, this is the night. You're not gonna pass me by tonight. You're not gonna pass me by. I I need you tonight. Not to not tomorrow, not next week, not next year, but I need you today.

SPEAKER_01 11:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 11:56

And just the fact that Mother Jackson, you know, came through there too and was said by the Holy Ghost, you know. Do you remember how she used to say call down power? Power, you remember that?

SPEAKER_02 12:10

Oh yes. It was her power of the Holy Ghost. And it was be she could open her mouth and say, Daughter, power the Holy Ghost hit you. And it's like a boat of lightning with this. Whoa, just travel through your body like she spoke it. She didn't even have to touch you, she didn't have to be see you. She's sitting on the other side of the room and speak to you. That was anointing. That was annoying. That was power indeed. Jesus. Oh my god. I tell God all the time. I can just get just a little bit, just a just a little bit of the anointing in the power of the Jack and Carrie. Just a little bit.

SPEAKER_00 12:51

Just a just a just a little, just a drop.

SPEAKER_02 12:54

Not even a drop, but half a drop. A little drop. I would be satisfied.

SPEAKER_00 13:01

That was a great woman of the I am I just I feel so overjoyed right now. I feel so good in my soul. I can't explain it. I just feel I feel so good in my soul right now. I just want to cry. I feel so good. Just don't know you don't know. I feel so good to have you here, you know, on this podcast today because you know, I d y that anointing, and I wanted people I wanted my community to hear this because I wanted them to hear this young woman, you know, how God is using her to to bring the word, to sing, to preach. Um she caters. I mean to use her to do that too. So God is really doing this thing, using you, and you letting him do it. That's the thing. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 14:50

I'm a willing vessel. That's it. I tell God every day, I just want to be a willing vessel. Use me, God. I I'm I'm so grateful that he called me. Not only did he call me, but he chose me from the foundation of the world, from my mother's womb. That's that's something. When God chooses you and says I trust you, now let me use you. Use me, God.

SPEAKER_00 15:12

Wow.

SPEAKER_03 15:13

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

Wow. And what better person to use you than God? Hello? Um, yes now. Yeah. So, you know, I know we we're covering a few things. We we got I know I always tell people we're going to do a part one, part two, and we we're still reporting now. Yeah. He's gotta come back. I'm already saying please come back. Please come back first.

SPEAKER_02 15:44

Yes, I'll be honored to. I'll be so honored too. So honored to.

The Miracle Birth And Speech Impediment

SPEAKER_00 15:48

But we got a lot more to cover today. So I want I want us to talk a little bit about your um about your ministry. I want to talk about your ministry because I know you uh we're gonna talk about the music as well, but I know you are a minister. You know, you you pre you preach the word of God. And so can you tell us about that? Because I I know you I don't know if you got a you got a church now, a place where you I do.

SPEAKER_02 16:14

I do. Um I we we we I've had the church for about well, I have the name for the church and the um the organization, but God finally blessed us with the building this year, and that's that's I'm gonna I'm gonna start back from the beginning. Um so I of course, you know, I started out praise and worship Peter and I started out singing, and um I wanted to stay there. I I'm being transparent for all the ministers out there who are listening. Um when God called me into pastoral and he called me into preaching, I was like, uh-uh, God, I can't do that. And I let me let me explain why. It wasn't the fact that I didn't want to obey God. I was afraid because I had a speech impediment. Um I was born. Um sister Virginia, when I tell you the story is so long and it well, I'm gonna have to come back. I'm it's my book is concerning that. Yeah. So I wrote it. It is in my book. I'm I'm also writing my book right now to to talk about it. But when I was born, I was born with my mouth still closed. And um, yeah, the doctor said that I would never talk um sit alone or do anything. Yeah, yeah. So yeah, true story. Um so I Not you. Yeah. They told me I would never sing. Uh well, they told me I would never talk. So if I couldn't talk, then you know I wouldn't be able to sing, right? They wanted to they wanted to perform a surgery, and they was like, we have to do this, we have to perform perform this surgery, or she could possibly die because she's not breathing correctly, and she wouldn't talk if they don't. So my mom said the um the spittle lord told her that I would not have to have the surgery. And my mom said, um, we're not gonna do it, we're not gonna do the surgery. And they they argued with my mom for some time, and it's it's I'm gonna uh speed up the conversation uh that part just for due to time. So wind up not getting surgery. My mom anointed my mouth that day in the hospital. Um I'm mind you, I'm still an infant, probably wasn't even a day old. And my mama anointed my mouth. I wasn't I wasn't uh responsive, my body was cold. Um, she anointed my mouth as she prayed over me. She said, God, you are a doctor. You do it. You told me from my from the moment I had her, you spoke her into the womb. While she was in my womb, you told me who she was. This is not her portion. This is not her destiny. You told me who she was, a great woman of God. How can she be a great woman of God and not speak? And so my mom prayed, she prayed, she prayed, and she said, Um, I recall she told me, she said she was laying there, she just closed her eyes, she was beginning to pray, and she began to sing, and then she heard a whimper and she looked down at me, my mouth was opened. Mind you, this is happen-that's a miracle in itself. Didn't have the surgery, my mouth was open, and I began to doctor. She pressed for the nurses to come in, come here, come in, come here. And they was like, oh my God, what what happened? So make a long story short. I still um have a speech impediment. God left me. I feel like he left me with that little bit, just so that people can know my story. So my tongue is still not developed as a normal person would. It's still kind of sealed to the bottom of my mouth just a little bit. I have like maybe a little space under there. So when I speak, sometimes my words don't come out right. And I know you can't tell now. Listen, years of practice, years of practice. When I sing, you would never know, right? But I no, never. No. So years of practicing, and when I sing, sometimes it comes out, and God just gifted me to how to cover it up, and I would hit a run or to cover up where I can't speak. So then I a lot of people say that, like, you can't tell. So I it is so when I talk for a long period of time, it shows. So I was like, God, I can't get up and preach. I can sing because I can cover my impediment with a run or uh something like that, a riff. You know, I can cover it with a riff when I when my words aren't coming out right, I can cover it with the with a riff, you know, something like that, cover it with a riff, and you would never know. You think, oh man, she just did that. And I'm like, no, I'm not. I I couldn't say the word, so I covered it. But when I'm speaking, it's hard to do that. And so I thought it for a long time. I said, God, I can't do this, I can't do this. And he said, I use Moses. Why can't I use you? Amen. And he said, and even in that, you're not gonna need an interpreter. I'm gonna be your interpreter. He said, I said, open your mouth and I'll feel it. And when I speak, people are like, I can't believe you have a speech impediment. I'm like, Yeah, I do. I can't tell. So I ran from ministry. I can't tell. Yes, yes, that's a true story. I ran from ministry on the preaching side of ministry for a long time, sister Jennifer. For a couple of years, I ran from it. Um, God sent different prophets into my life and said, God has called you. You no longer can sit in this place of stagnation and worship leader. I've called you to preach, I've called you the pastor, and I'm the God, me. But what about my sister? What about my brother? My you know, Michael, my brother, he was the one that, oh my God, powerful voice. Everybody, yeah, he's gonna be. I'm like, God, Michael has a powerful voice. Let him be the pastor. You know, I start calling this one of my siblings who, and then he took me back and reminded me of the story of David. Wow. Reminded me of the story of David. He said, No, I'm gonna take the run in the family. I'm gonna take the run in the family, the one who don't who who's not meant to be anything. I'm gonna take you, the little shepherd, I'm gonna take you. And it would make me great. And it's so crazy because I'm the smallest one in my family. I'm I'm I'm gonna stack seriously. All of my siblings are taller than me. I'm the middle child, but all of my babies are taller than me. Yeah. I stand a mere 4'11. Literally. Well you know, that just makes kill us. Yeah. And I'm like, God, how can you use a little video of me? Little video of me. And I finally answered the call on my life, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01 22:57

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 22:58

I it was it's just amazing how how God would use the the lesser, you know, the underdog, the one that feels like there are nobody. That's the one God. And that's what he reminded me of, David. He said, I his daddy Jesse was uh portraying all of his other songs, all of his other sons and statues. Look at this one. Surely, even um Samuel was saying, surely he must be the one. Look at him. He's mighty, he's good looking, he's a warrior, and God was like, No. I I want Dave. I want the little one. I want the nobody. I want the little shepherd boy that tended the sheep. That's who I want.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

That's how that's how he did it. I'm 411 too. Look at the five I'm five feet.

Answering The Call To Pastor

SPEAKER_02 23:53

Oh four eleven, you know. I asked four eleven. Maybe five feet with heels on. A good pair of heels on. Oh my God. That that's how God did it. He said, I want the I want you. I want you. Yeah, because he said, when I use you, they're not gonna see you, they're gonna see me. And that's what I've always wanted. I don't want I said, God, I don't want them to see me. I want you to decrease me that they see you. Every time I open my mouth, so I ran for ministry for a long time. In the year 2020, I said yes to my calling. And it and and it wasn't uh how how can I say it? It was an involuntary yes, because God pushed me out. He was like, You're gonna go, you're gonna either gonna go or else. He pushed me out. And I said, Okay, and so he I said, God, what would I name the ministry? What would I name the ministry? I have no building. What would I name the ministry? He said, limitless worship. What? He said, Wow. Because what I'm about to do is gonna be limitless. You your the ministry is gonna exceed four walls. There will be no limits. You would not be limited just to a four-wall building. And I said, okay, God, so what I'm gonna do, put me in a tent. I was in a tent for the first two, I want to say two and a half years of ministry, I was in tent. And I was okay with that because I mean, I cried loud and I spared not. And and God would, we would be out there. Sometimes it would be just me, my children, my husband at the time, uh, my minister muse, and my mom and some of my family members would be there. And then, you know, I said, God, I'm I'm preaching to the trees. He said, continue to. That's what he told me. Continue to. I said, What? He said, continue to. And then as I began, I said, okay, God, I'll obey you. You know, hey, I'll obey you. Because that's what I felt like. I was out there preaching to the trees and the in the grass and the pastures and stuff. And then someone came down the road, walking down the road. They said, I've been hearing you for the last couple of Sundays, and I've been trying to find that powerful voice. They said, I began to walk. And I and they said they prayed and said, God, lead me to her voice, lead me to where she is. And they began to walk, walk down the street, and they followed my voice all the way to my mama's front yard. Sat in the front, in the front on the front row, and they said, Ma'am, you don't understand how many people you are reaching. So, your voice is traveling all over this town. We hear you way down the road preaching the gospel, singing. And the people around here are hearing you. Um, some of my mama neighbors neighbors begin to come out and say, Man, you bless us every Sunday. And I hear I am thinking I'm preaching to the trees. These people say, I feel healing, I feel deliverance just by hearing you, even though we may not come and sit up under your tent. Said we open our doors and we open our windows, listening for 1115 to come because we know you're gonna be out there in the yard preaching. And it hit me, and I said, God, he said, This is why I told you to continue. Because even if you don't see a soul, he said, you they hear you. They don't you told me, and he reminded me of my words. He said, You told me to not allow them to see you but hear me. And it messed me up because they didn't see me, but they heard the word of God. Jesus, limitless, limitless assets. They heard they heard it limitless across that town, heard my voice crying loud and sparing out as a trumpet, you know, proclaiming the name of Christ, letting them know the wages of sin and death, but but the gift of God is eternal life. I mean, he uh it blessed me. That's how limitless worship started. In a tent.

SPEAKER_00 27:53

I wondered about the name, you know. I thought it was an I let name limitless. I was like, wow, limitless worship, and that's how it came about. Wow. Yeah, that was it. Yeah, that it's amazing.

unknown 28:07

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 28:08

And you thought you were preaching to the trees and the whole time that people were listening, they heard your voice. Wow.

SPEAKER_02 28:16

Yeah, yeah. I did. I was like, God, I'm not finna keep coming up here Sunday after Sunday, and my mama preaching to the trees and the grass, and he said, Do it. You say it. God, I'll go. If you see me, I'll go. Even if I don't know.

SPEAKER_00 28:30

I like how every time God says something. I like how when he says something, you you you you ask him a question back. I like how you he would say something and just say, you know. That's how he'll do you.

SPEAKER_02 28:47

He always had an answer for you. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm. Always. And then and then sometimes it didn't come right then and there either. You know, he wouldn't he he wouldn't always speak to me in that moment. It'll be sometimes he'll let uh a song come on, or he'll let someone just pop up in in the grocery store and say, God told me to tell you. And I'm looking at them, they don't know me from Paul to Silas. God told me to tell you mind-blown. Like, wait a minute. I don't know where I remember. God told me to tell you. What? You better not. You can't take that. And I'm just looking at them like, you don't even know me. I don't even know you. And you know, and it reminded me in the Bible how it tells us to be mindful, paraphrasing, how to be mindful of when we entertain strangers because we could be very well entertaining angels. No doubt that was the angel of the Lord. I I truly believe that. The angel of the Lord came and visited me in the grocery store and reminded me of what God called me to do and who he called me to be. And I can't take down and I feel like God was testing me to see. Can I trust you with little? Can I trust you when there's nobody there? Can I trust you when it's just you? Can I trust you to obey me when you can't see the way clear? Can I trust you to obey me? I feel like he was testing me to see. Right. Sound like an angel.

SPEAKER_00 30:22

Yeah, don't it? Sound like an angel of the Lord to me.

SPEAKER_01 30:26

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 30:28

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_01 30:29

Yeah, right.

SPEAKER_00 30:33

Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_01 30:34

Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_00 30:35

Oh my God. Yeah. I I'm speechless. Limitless. I'm speechless. I I can't say anything because listening to all of this testimony and just there's so much power that's going through right now. I just oh I just feel it all over me right now. I I can't explain it. You know, you know, I see people just falling out, they just falling all over the floor. I just feel like, oh God, and my hands my hands are shaking right now because I feel that anointing. This was our conversation. Oh jeez.

SPEAKER_02 31:11

It's it's something to be called from from your mother's womb, you know, and and you know, it's it's I felt like the enemy had been trying to stop me from ministering from birth, you know, from even them saying that I would not talk. Um, or the point where they told me that I wouldn't live to be five years old because of some issues that I had at birth. But look at me today. I know I know I sound like I'm an old woman, you know, because of how I talk, but I'm just a mere 38 years old. I'm still young, 38 years old, you know, and and that's a miracle all a young lady, y'all.

SPEAKER_00 31:48

She's still a young woman of God.

SPEAKER_02 31:51

Yeah, and I'm running for Jesus the best way I can. I'm trying my best to live a life. Ain't got turned yet. Uh-uh. Like in seriousness, miss, you know, I um may they that's like I said, that was a miracle all in itself. They said I wouldn't be five years old. We'd make it to live to be five years old. That I wouldn't be I wouldn't grow to be no more than maybe three feet. God exceeded their expectations because I'm 4'11, you know. He gave me a little bit more height than they said I would have. I'm 4'11, you know, and I'm I'm way past five. I'm 38 years old.

Albums, New Music, And The Journey

SPEAKER_00 32:26

Right. Oh my God. This is so amazing. Now I would love, you know, because I love your music. I mean, we we we talked about your ministry a little bit and I love your music. And then you how many records you got? Do you have two albums out there or do you just have one? How many Okay, I think you got Oh, I have I had a single.

SPEAKER_02 32:47

My first the first um project I released was a single. It was The Great I Am. And then I released the album, um, Inner Worship. Um, and now I'm working on my third project. Um so yeah, that's I think I I released my first mm, 2018 I want to say it was. I released I released uh The Great I Am and then Inner Worship, I think I released uh 2020, I think, 2021, somewhere around that time. At least I released Inner Worship. And uh let's see, and now I'm working on, you know, ti some time passed because like I said, life happened and I kind of stopped um recording. I stopped um uh doing my um caring business, you know. I went through uh traumatic times from 2023 to now. But God, I still love the Lord, you know. I kept pushing and we'll have time to expound on that. We'll uh, you know, you know, talk about what happened to me during those times. But I kind of stopped doing my music for a while because I was broken. And that's okay to say that sometimes. You know, we as women and men of God, we sometimes, you know feel as if we can't be transparent on um the things that we have overcame. And um yeah, my I released my album in 2022, and I went through a life-changing experience 2023, and that's where my name change came in. And um I stopped recording, I stopped writing. Um, I was still minister. I wasn't uh ministering in full capacity because I was in a place of broken, and I said, God, I can't minister to your people from this place of broken because I dare not spew um my my emotions and my brokenness on your people. So I'm gonna minister and I'm not gonna take down, I just didn't do it in the full capacity that I was doing it in before. And so um last year, the Lord came to me and said, You sat down enough. I gave you grace. Now it's time for you to get back up. Get back up, full capacity. Because I was still ministering and I was still traveling, but I wasn't full capacity pastor, full capacity uh prophetess, full capacity music writer, uh releasing, you know, using the gift that God had given me. I was only giving him my bare minimum. And God said, enough is enough, it's time to get back up. And I said, Yes, God. So this year, the beginning of this year, I relaunched Limitless Worship. And in relaunching it, God opened up where um we had a building this time, and I'm able to write my music. Yeah, yeah. Able to rewrite my music, God had given me so many songs just for me, you know, telling God yes all over again and and getting up and and and restarting this ministry. Um I've been writing music. I've I oh my god, I've written so many songs. I I have enough to probably fill up maybe three, four, five albums. Who knows? You know? So I'm excited. I'm looking forward. Yeah, yeah. So I I'm excited about that. Um so new music coming soon. Um like I said, my old music, uh my um album is still out on all the media platforms.

SPEAKER_00 36:15

Yeah, because I got I I bought um I bought the I think the last one that you did. Um I got I think we got I got that one is very good. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 36:25

Yeah, yeah, that was inner worship. That was my inner worship album. And so now the new album I'm working on is Journey. Um and um talking it's pretty much God is just um I have a song on there that's called On This Journey, Heaven only Knows, um, talking about my the the things that I have endured in my life. Um pretty kind of much summing up um not not the full capacity, but summing up some of the things that I endured in my life um alongside of my book. So I'm really looking forward to releasing this song because it really speaks to me, you know, it's it's it's me, you know, in a song. So yeah, I'm excited about what God is doing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:06

You know, I love how you were talking about how you were like broken and when you're like that, sometimes you can't you just can't move forward because I know when I was the sword thought, you know, I had that nervous breakdown and I just couldn't do anything. It was like I didn't want to record. People would say, Are you still singing? You don't sing anymore? I said, Well, that's I'll never stop singing. I just I just can't I just can't right now, you know, and it took a minute, you know, to get over that. I had had a nervous breakdown and I and the doctor said I couldn't even go to my sister um Pearl's funeral because the doctor said, No, if you go to an another funeral after what happened to Laura, he said, you know, they might be going to your funeral because my heart was just in a bad place at the time.

SPEAKER_01 37:56

And yeah.

SPEAKER_00 37:57

It was just possible. And and just recently I finally got brought me on out of it completely, but you know, but look it. It was really hard for all those funerals. It was terrible. It was terrible.

Brokenness, Therapy, And Real Faith

SPEAKER_02 38:10

You know something I I thank God. Yeah. That's you know something I realized is uh Regina. Um a a lot of us in this walk of life as um believers of Christ, sometimes we feel like we have to be bulletproof. We can't be transparent in our hurt and in our brokenness. We have to put on this facade that, hey, I'm okay. I'm always okay. And and and and and I've noticed that. That's why a lot of people in the body of Christ suffer mentally because they are afraid to say, hey, I'm broken, hey, I'm not okay, hey, I need therapy. You know, I and and and you know, being grown up in uh holiness, you know, they say, hey, you don't need no therapist, you know. I and and I'm I'm grateful from for my foundation and my background, but I'm grateful that God has given me insight also, because he wants us to be not only spiritually healthy, but mental and physically healthy. And you know, I we were we were raised in a in a in an era where, hey, you better go pray. Prayer is exquisite. Think about this. But the Bible tells us that what? Faith without works is what? Death. So if you're praying, God, I believe you to help me, God, you're gonna bring me out of this. God, he said, what are you doing to come out of it? Right. What are you doing? Faith without works is that, God, I believe that you can heal my mental. What are you doing to heal your mental? You're killing. What are you doing? Just sitting in a dark room, sleeping all day, uh uh hiding behind, I'm okay, it's not gonna bring you out. You gotta first be my eater and step out of the boat and walk on the water and trust that in you coming out of it, that God is gonna heal and deliver you. So sometimes being transparent and saying, God, I'm not okay. I need help. Send me where I can get help. And I'm okay being a pastor, saying that I had to seek help. I had to go to a psychiatrist, I had to go to a therapist and say, Hey, I need to get this off my chest, or I'm gonna break. And say that God took it to someone who was spiritual and could guide me both in the spirit, mental, and the natural to heal my brokenness. And I I want I don't I want to say this to every listener. It's okay to not be okay and be saved. Just because you're not making it don't mean you're not saved. Just because you're broken, don't mean you're not filled with the precious gift of the Holy Ghost. Hello, somebody. Just because you said, God, I need help does not mean you don't have power. Hallelujah. It don't mean that. Get the help you need. How can you minister? Listen at this. This is important for all the ministers that that tap in. It's hard ministering from a place of brokenness, and and then you're pouring and pouring and pouring, and then you have no one to pour back into your cup because you keep telling everybody you're okay. Sometimes you have to be transparent because you're pouring from a place of brokenness and you're playing from healthy, and you need someone, you need someone to say, Hey, let I see your brokenness. Let me let me help you men back together. Let me let me help pour back into you. Yes, it's okay to pray. Yes, it's okay to seek God, but sometimes he said, Sister, this is this is the part that we miss. He said, From strength to strength, we go on with you. Sometimes, listen, sometimes we're gonna have to go to somebody and say, I need you to pray for me. I need help because I'm in a place of brokenness. And if I don't get help, I'm not gonna make it out of this. The Bible tells us when the appointment threat prayer of the righteous, what avail as much. He tells us to go to your brother, our God, when you're in trouble, go to them. That's what he said. That's what God. He said, go to them, pray together, come together in prayer. When you need help, he said, go to the elders of the church. He didn't say fight it on your own. He said, Go to someone. Go to someone that you can that you know can get a prayer through, that you know can help you out of it. Don't try to fight it on your own. I promise you, it don't make you weak, it don't make you less anointed, it don't make you less called, it don't make you less chosen. Oh God, I hear you, Holy Ghost. It don't make you less safe because you asked for help. I don't know who this is, but I have to learn to do that. I had to learn to say, God, I need help. I can't do it on my own. He said, guess what? I didn't mean for you to do it on your own. Tammy. Hallelujah. I didn't mean for you to do it on your own. I sent you someone to help you. But every time they came to say, Pastor, is you okay? No, I'm good, I'm great, I'm good, I'm blessed in hollow favor. Knowing that I was going home broken, knowing that I was going home under a spirit of depression and suicide, stress. But I was telling people I was okay. And God began to deal with me. He said, Tammy, you're lying. I said, God, how am I lying? He said, Because you're not okay. I'm like, okay, God, but I saw it as I was speaking those things that are not as if they are. He said, but you gotta do the work, Tammy. Amen. I'm sending you help, laying in your bed under the covers, and and and letting depression take you over, and then getting up on Sunday preaching from a broken place that's not doing the word. Oh and I began to get in the word of God, and he began to he began to take me to different scriptures in the Bible where it it pretty much told me you need to get help. Go to your brothers, go to the elders, go to your spiritual fathers and let them know listen, I need help. I need you to pray for me. I need you to pray with me. This is just to encourage every minister out there that you're not alone. If you're going through, I don't care what your title may be, if you're going through something, you're not alone. If you're going through something, don't try to handle it on your own. Yes, pray and fast, but God also lets us know that strength is from strength to strength we'll go on, and iron sharpened iron. You're gonna need another piece of iron to help sharpen you. God has put us together. He said, Don't forget to gather yourself. That's where your strength comes from. Oh bleachy.

SPEAKER_01 45:41

Uh-oh.

SPEAKER_02 45:42

He said, Well, two or three are gathered together. It's okay for you to pray. That's the biggest thing. And I'm I'm sorry, I'm because I'm I'm I feel I feel my the minister in me coming up, and I'm I'm right. I'm sorry. But I that's where we the enemy, this is where the enemy hinders us. This is where the enemy hinders us, right here, sis. Because we want to do it on our own. Right. And he said, well, two or three are gathered together. Two or three. He can say you by yourself. Mind you, oh my God. It even reminds me, he said, one can slay what? But two can slay. Come on now. But when you got two or three together, you can do more. The enemy won't. I'm telling y'all, the enemy try to put us in that place. He wants us singled out on our own because he knows if he can get you by yourself, yes. If he can get you up a place of isolation, that's what the enemy desire to put you in a place of isolation to make you think, hey, you gotta do it by yourself. No, you don't. No, you don't. Find someone that you can confide in, find someone that you can trust. Find someone with power, find someone that can get a present with you. Amen. And come together. So I just want to encourage somebody. Don't don't stop trying to do it on your own. Open that door. Open that door and let someone in. You ain't got to tell a lot of people. You can just get one. He said two or three. He didn't say it had to be a crowd. He said two and three or three. That's what the Bible says. Two or three. You ain't got to tell a whole bunch of people, just one other person. You and them get together and bombard heaven. You and them get together and pray, touch and agree that God move this thing for you. That God healed you completely. That God healed and me and your brokenness. And then he said, Then I will be in the midst. Then I'll be in the midst. Then where you are weak, I am strong. When you are broken, I am. Oh God, okay. So I I did. I went through a season of brokenness. And I was I was guilty of trying to do it on my own because I didn't want no one to say, oh, look, I knew she wouldn't save. And God began to tell me, say, Timmy, do you care more about what people say or what I say? And I said, God, I care about what you say. I care about how you see me. Hallelujah. I care more about how you see me. He said, be transparent because you never know who you're going to help. He said, I put you in this place of wilderness. I put you in this valley because when you come out, you're going to come out as per goal. And when you come out as per goal, you're going to be able to help other women that has went through this or that are going through this same storm. And you're going to let them know how to come out. You're going to be able to reach back and grab someone else's hand and pull them into their destiny. Oh my God, because the enemy couldn't stop you and your he couldn't stop your destiny in your trial, in your in your tribulation, in your wilderness experience. He could not stop you.

SPEAKER_00 48:58

You are preaching the word today. You are preaching. I mean, God is using you on now to preach that word, bring that word. People are listening listening to this. I mean, it's gonna, I know it's gonna touch people. And I'm so thankful. Oh God, I'm so thankful.

SPEAKER_02 49:23

Oh God, it's it's it's just it's it it just touches me because when I was in my broken place, I thought God had left me. I thought he had forsaken me. I thought he, you know, had abandoned me, and then he took me to the scripture where he said, I'll never leave you nor will I forsake you. But I'm thinking and then he spoke to me and he said, Tammy, because he didn't call me pastor then, because I I was Tammy then. He said, Daughter, child, my child. He said, I promise you it's not to hurt you, it's not to break you, but baby is to make you. Because when you come out of this, the anointing. He had me to preach a sermon not too long after I went through that that said that there was purpose in your pressure. You understand the oil could not flow unless the olive was crushed. Oh my god. Diamonds cannot form unless pressure is applied. Holy is not purified unless it's put in the fire. Help me, Holy Ghost. My anointing could not flow until I was crushed. But in the question, God said, Now I'm about to add me to you and remember you, and you will be greater than you were whole. Oh my God. He said, Your value and your partner, your call, your destiny is greater than you were when you thought you were whole. He said, Because when I added myself to you, when you was crushed, I was then able to come in and add my pieces to you. God help me, Holy Ghost. I was then able to come in and comfort you and apply my blood, and then your DNA changed, then you became greater. Help me, Holy Ghost. That's for somebody out there. That's for somebody out there. Even though he may see your crush in this moment, but if you allow God to add Himself to your course moment, oh my God, I promise you, when He puts you back together, Holy Ghost, He's gonna put when He I I I remember in the scripture of Habakkuk, he said, Have you seen the temple? Oh my God. And it was greater than it was in his latter days when he put you back together. For your ladder would be greater. Yeah. Oh God, you have better days before you than they were behind you when he put you back together.

SPEAKER_00 51:58

I'm thinking about that song, The Potter wants it put you back together again. Together again.

SPEAKER_02 52:03

Yes, ma'am. The Potter wants to put you back. And then I heard a songwriter say, Lord, make me over. How can he make you over? The only way he can make you over that he has to break you first.

SPEAKER_01 52:15

That's right.

SPEAKER_02 52:16

How can you remake something? Third progress to be broken first. He gotta people don't understand when he said you have to be born again. How do you have to be born again? That means this old flesh, this stuff that you used to, has to be pulled off. And guess what, sis? It's not a comfortable situation to be reborn. It's not a comfortable situation to have your character recreated. Oh my God, because you have become comfortable in who you are. And he said, This flesh has to die. You have to sacrifice and crucify this flesh to become like him. And it ain't a good feeling. Oh my God. But he brings a comforter, which is the Holy Ghost, that would comfort you in your transformation and becoming who God has called you to be. It ain't a good feeling, but I promise you it's for your good.

SPEAKER_01 53:03

Holy Ghost. Yeah, yeah. It ain't word today.

SPEAKER_02 53:10

The storm don't feel good. But I promise you, if you keep going.

SPEAKER_01 53:19

Yeah, yeah. You preaching the word today.

SPEAKER_02 53:24

Yes, ma'am. I I went I went through some things, but I I came out on top. I feel like I am more blessed now than I was before I went through the the brokenness that I was in. I I I uh God I feel such a closeness, you know, with God. My ears are open and the way God used me, He used me more than He used me when I felt like I had everything I needed. Oh my God. That right there is a word all in itself. When I thought I had everything I needed.

SPEAKER_00 54:01

You can feel that anointing. I think a few years ago, it was it was a great anointing, but now it's greater. It's actually greater. I I see exactly what you're saying. It's greater now. I mean I mean, just hearing that word, you just God using you to preach that word just now. Just I'm just sitting over here to thank hallelujah. Just I just want to run. Like I said, I run. I just feel something in my soul. This is that word of God today. God is using you to preach that word. Oh God, I'm so happy that you're on this podcast. So people hear that word. I'm so happy. Oh sorry.

SPEAKER_02 54:49

I I'm sorry, I try I really was trying to contain myself. I get so excited when I'm talking about how good God is and the things that He's brought me from. At a very young age, I have I have endured a lot. You know, I know a lot of people say, Well, how you know? Because God has allowed me to go through a lot of things so that I may help others.

SPEAKER_00 55:08

And I just want to use them. This this podcast, it if God uses someone on there and they start preaching or giving their testimony. I mean, this this this podcast is over for that. Oh God, I want people to get the authentic so they can see, like, oh my God, could he get it for her or not? 'Cause people don't know who's listening, you know.

SPEAKER_01 55:34

That's right. That's right. So that's right.

SPEAKER_00 55:36

Yeah, like that's not unusual. I was just over here marveling at the the words that God was just giving with this just that spin knot that fire, just oh warren.

SPEAKER_02 55:52

He's just he's so he's so good to me. He's so he's he's so worthy. He's so worthy of all the praise. He's he's just uh like the song said, if it had not been for the Lord on my side, where would I be? Where would I be? I I used to love to hear him sing it. Uh back in the in Jackson Temple just they just break out if it had not been for the Lord. I just love to hear him sing it.

SPEAKER_01 56:25

On my side.

SPEAKER_02 56:27

And you just tell me, where would I be? Where would I be? Where would I be? I don't even want to imagine. I don't even want to know where it would be.

SPEAKER_00 56:37

Jesus. Boy, I'm chilling. You I mean I know it's gonna be a part two. I mean, this is gonna be Sunday, but it's gonna be a part two for the next Sunday.

SPEAKER_02 56:49

Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am. Oh my gosh, yes. But you know, God knows. I I believe in letting God have his way. He we some like you said before, you know, sometimes we'll try to, you know, do a strip and God said, No, I want things because he knows what people need in that moment. And I and I want to be so sensitive to the spirit where God can change the course, you know, he can he can change the program and he can give what needs to be heard in that moment. Mm-hmm. Mm-mm.

SPEAKER_00 57:28

God is so good. He is so good. But see, we still got so much more to talk about, although we didn't cover a lot of the things, but that's okay because hey you have a lot to talk about.

SPEAKER_01 57:44

Amen.

SPEAKER_00 57:46

You have so much to to talk about. So um this is just part one, but but it's okay because you're gonna be back. You're gonna come back. You gotta talk about your your catering service. You're gonna talk about you may want to mention some of that now if you like. I would love you. Yeah, uh mention some of that. Yeah, talk about now about it.

Book, Business Plans, And Closing

SPEAKER_02 58:08

Yeah, of course. Like when well we'll when we come back, when I do get come back on again, God, um, God's willing. You know, we'll expand more on my businesses um as a caterer. I um have my own barbecue sauce and everything. I I do that, I do sauces and what I specialize in, and also uh the writing of my book. Um, hopefully by then I'll be uh got a little farther on my book and and hopefully be getting ready to publish it soon. Um I was telling you earlier the name of my book is Um Surviving the Witherness, a journey to my destiny. Yeah, surviving and God is yeah, just pretty much talking about the different trials and tribulations that I went through, um, you know, my wilderness experience, and then expounding on some of the wilderness experience that we learned um from the Bible, you know, and how it's gonna be good. So far, so far it's been it's been, you know, it's been a really good journey for me. I'm excited about, you know, that and um, you know, of course, coming out with some more music. So j just keep me in your prayers and you know, just look forward to what God is doing. Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_00 59:18

And and give us a place where they can um like can contact you and you know, things like that. And please give us a and I and and and you gotta say a word of prayer. I can't just let you know, but God saying a word of prayer too.

SPEAKER_01 59:31

So Yes ma'am.

SPEAKER_00 59:32

Yes, ma'am.

SPEAKER_02 59:33

Well Okay, well, um, of course, you know, I am on Facebook, I am on Instagram, um I think you can find me on the Facebook on Tammy Watson. Um I also have uh our ministry page, which is Limitless Worship. Um my Instagram is Tammy Land underscore. You can find me on Instagram Tammy Land underscore or Facebook. I'm also on TikTok, but I cannot remember my TikTok name. But um, yeah, you can find me there um on our um limitless worship uh Facebook page uh but via email as well. Um that's at um limitlessworship.ink. Um yeah, limitlessworship.ink at gmail.com. That's the um where you can also reach out to me there as well. Um yeah, so that's how you can pretty much reach out.

SPEAKER_00 1:00:27

And I'll put it in the write up. Uh I have it open write-up. Sound on it. Yes, right. Oh boy, this uh if I thought I was joking when I first got on here, I'm just flayed right now.

SPEAKER_02 1:00:42

Yes, ma'am. Yes, ma'am, yes, ma'am. I feel so that it's so rejuvenated in my spirit. You get you get some good talking about Jesus and talking about the goodness of God. It it likes to and I'm so grateful we did it so early tonight, because it it just it set the tone for the rest of my day, you know? Yeah, and I I I love giving God his first thing in the morning. It sets it sets my pace. Uh so yeah. Thank you so much for um finding our robbery to invite me on, you know, because I don't think I'm nothing big. I'm just a little bitty old person, just uh can say a nobody wanting to be a willing vessel for God, and I'm so honored, you know. Uh like I said before, we raised up watching you and your sister and many of the greats that came through Jackson Temple. You you guys are a legendary for your legacy, you know, for us. We look at you like that that's Regina Swan, you know. You guys are legacy for us, you know. Um watching you guys, and it's it's such an honor to actually have this opportunity to be on your podcast and and speak to you. Oh God, it's I'm honored. I'm honored. I'm honored.

SPEAKER_00 1:01:56

I'm so happy. I'm so happy to have had you on her part part one and then part two is gonna be the following Sunday. So it's gonna if it if it has to be Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, we're gonna get this word out there. We're gonna get this word out there. I'm so happy to have had this wonderful woman, young woman of God. That anointing has gotten stronger. And listening to your your testimony and the things that you've gone through, and and you can just really tell that God is taking you to a higher higher level. You can pick it up higher. And I am so happy. I'm so thankful that that you you've been was able to come on today. I'm so thankful. God knows I'm thankful. So I just want to thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:02:45

Thank you. Thank you so much.

SPEAKER_00 1:02:48

And so um we're gonna get ready to end for today, but just remember that uh she you would definitely be back um the following Sunday. So it's gonna be Sunday, Sunday, Sunday, until we can't until she couldn't sell in her testimony. Well we we gotta get this out of this, so hey. You heard it, she got started up. I mean, hey, I mean it's like all I can do is just just be sitting, Hallelujah, just shouting on the other end. I'm thinking, Mark Yes, you know. Thank you so much, Pastor Watson. It's just been a blessing to have you on the podcast. It's been a blessing. Thank you so much. Um I've been drinking my water and just I've been needing my water, man. It's just telling you. So thanks again. So thank you so much, everyone, who uh tuned in today. Um Regina Swaren Audio Series presents. Uh you can contact me if you have any questions at Regina Swarin um Rekinaswarein.com. I've got my website up now, or you can just send me an email at uh uh ReginaSwaren at gmail dot com. So thank you again. God bless you, my beautiful, beautiful sister, and until the next time, I guess we'll just say later. Ma'am, yes, ma'am. God bless you everyone. Thanks for coming out today. Thank you.

SPEAKER_03 1:04:23

God bless.