DRUNK ABOUT SOMETHING EMMETT TILL RECAP

A boy leaves Chicago for a summer with family in Mississippi. A whistle, a store, and a night that exposes the machinery of Jim Crow—what came next would force the nation to look. We walk through Emmett Till’s life with care, tracing the Great Migration roots that shaped his home, Mamie Till’s steady strength as a mother and professional, and the impossible talk she had to give her 14-year-old about surviving the Deep South.

From sharecropping days in Money, Mississippi to the fateful stop at Bryant’s Grocery, we break down what eyewitnesses said, what myths endured, and why small choices—like placing money in a cashier’s hand—could turn lethal under segregation. The kidnapping by Roy Bryant and J.W. Milam, the torture, the cotton gin fan, and the recovery of Emmett’s body are told plainly, without sensationalism, anchored by the LT ring that made identification possible when even his face could not. We then follow Mamie’s decision to hold an open-casket funeral and rally Black media, shifting a local atrocity into national consciousness and energizing the civil rights movement.

Inside the courtroom, we examine the dynamics that made justice impossible: racist greetings from law enforcement, attacks on Mamie’s composure, and a jury unmoved by evidence. We connect the acquittals to the killers’ later confession and to Carolyn Bryant’s belated admission that nothing Emmett did justified the violence. Along the way, we talk about why this history must be taught—clearly, honestly, and early—and how memory fights erasure. This is a story about a child, a mother’s resolve, and a country learning, painfully, what it takes to confront itself.

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Transcript

Allergies, Drinks, And Setup

SPEAKER_02 0:00

Hey Jesse. Hello, Lindsay. Hey, Lindsay. Lindsay, listen. Hey.

SPEAKER_01 0:08

Hey?

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Yeah, I just wanted to say hey. I mean that's all I got.

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Allergies are kicking strong today. We're both a little puffy, a little sneezy, a little snotty. Oh. I'm glad this is like the raw version.

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Because I'm gonna be like this just bumbling snerkelbug over here.

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Well, what are you having to drink today?

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Um, kicking chicken and Coca-Cola. Translate chick kicking chicken. Kicking chicken and coke, man. You don't know about cake and chicken and coke, man? What is kicking chicken?

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The proper name.

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The proper name?

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Wild turkey.

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Wild turkey niggas.

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Coke Zero, I think.

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Wild Turkey and Coke Zero.

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Yeah. Both we're both we are very much so not sponsored on.

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And I'm having a vodka seltzer, vodka soda, excuse me, not vodka seltzer. Um, with lasawa vodka.

SPEAKER_02 1:03

It's a potato vodka, and it's very good.

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And Aldi soda water with some lemon that I got from a regular at my restaurant that we got.

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Which we are sponsored by.

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Yes. Uh one of my regulars brought me some big fat juicy Meyer lemons. Ooh, they're in their tasty. The biggest. It's delicious. And uh yeah, so lasawa vodka, all these seltzer or soda water. I I don't want to get because it's it's different. It's different.

SPEAKER_02 1:36

It's good though, huh?

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Vod sod, is that what you call it? Vod sod with lemon, lime, and a little bit of lime juice. You know, the one that's in the big green bottle. Okay.

Emmett Till: Early Life In Chicago

SPEAKER_02 1:47

That thing. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 1:48

So today we are recapping our coverage on the horrific story. We're in Black History Month, by the way. Uh, we're uh recapping the horrific story of Emittel.

unknown 2:04

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Landon is our assistant. He doesn't have a mic, but um, him and Jesse, I want you guys to just tell me a little bit of what y'all thought about that story before I recap.

SPEAKER_02 2:15

I'm already trying to shut it out, but I can't.

SPEAKER_01 2:18

No, we don't need to shut it out.

SPEAKER_02 2:20

No, no, no. It's like not forgetting, but I'm just trying not to like live like, oh, so fucking bad. Lindsay, you really have been destroying me lately.

SPEAKER_01 2:28

Yeah, Jesse sent me a message midweek when he was editing, and he was like, this shit is rough.

SPEAKER_02 2:34

It was really fucking mean.

SPEAKER_01 2:36

It's very terrible.

SPEAKER_02 2:38

So, yeah, just a young kid that's gone through some stuff in Chicago that moved down south with his uncle.

SPEAKER_01 2:45

Right. So, well, he didn't move. He was just visiting, he was just on vacay.

SPEAKER_02 2:49

Okay, just out for like the summer, whatever. Yeah. Just doing some stuff. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 2:53

So Emmett Till, his middle name Lewis, after his father, uh, he was born in 1941 to Mamie and Lewis Till. And uh he was born in Chicago, Illinois, and his nickname was Bobo, which is Jesse's nickname as well.

SPEAKER_02 3:11

Yeah, that's what they call me.

SPEAKER_01 3:12

Yeah, he's Uncle Bobo. Why, why, why is it Bobo? That's what Chelsea called it. What's the Bobo? So she called me Bo.

SPEAKER_02 3:20

And then it became Bobo with Shelly's kids, my sister's kids.

SPEAKER_01 3:24

Well, Emmett, he was actually nicknamed Bobo, like in the womb still.

SPEAKER_02 3:30

Okay. There's a lot of Bobos. There's a Bobo at work, too. Like a uh cat cheese's brother is Bobo.

SPEAKER_01 3:38

And I always think of when I think of Bobo, I think of Bozo the Clown.

SPEAKER_02 3:42

Oh no, there's Bobo in there.

SPEAKER_01 3:44

So if you grew up in the 90s, there was this awesome clown show called Bozo the Clown, and he had like a game show. Uh, but anyways, so Mamie, she was from what Mississippi, and her family moved to Argo, Illinois, which is where they manufactured if there was a corn company there, and they manufactured like corn starch, corn syrup, all of that jazz. And um so when they moved to Chicago, this was part of uh what was called the Great Migration, and this was a rural black community that moved to the north to escape Jim Crow laws. And I encourage our listeners, visual audience, everybody, please Google. If you don't, if you're not familiar with those, Google the Jim Crow laws because it was complete bullshit. That was the segregation, like, you know, slavery was abolished.

SPEAKER_02 4:43

Yeah, don't use that water fountain. You have to use your own type of thing. Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 4:46

Slavery was abolished, but then Jim Crow law came in and was like, well, even though slavery is abolished, I we still don't want to use the same thing.

Great Migration And Mamie’s Story

SPEAKER_02 4:54

And how do you treat people lesser than? And you're still like supporting a religion that's supposed to be all equality, so yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:04

If Lincoln hadn't have been assassinated, maybe Jim Crow wouldn't have been able to do his bullshit.

SPEAKER_03 5:10

Right. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 5:12

But anyway, so when Mamie was 18, she met and married Lewis Till, who worked for the Argo Corn Company, and he also did some amateur boxing, and they had a little boy named Emmett Lewis Till. And um Papa was an ass. Papa was an asshole. So he ended up being a cheater and a beater. And um she uh Mamie, she ended up like getting a restraining order. She had to put boiling water on his fucking ass, and we talk about in our episode, like our complete coverage of this, where we talk about the hot grits.

SPEAKER_02 5:54

Yeah, yeah, check that out. And then it was it came down to the point where it's like you choose you're going to jail or you go to war.

SPEAKER_01 6:01

Exactly. So he chose war.

SPEAKER_02 6:06

WW2.

SPEAKER_01 6:08

While he was enlisted, um, he committed more violent acts where um I think it was hold on, let me look at the date really quick in my notes. 1945. So 1945, they separated in 1942, and in 1945, umie received word that Lewis had been executed because he raped two women and murdered another. Uh, and this was in Italy. They're gonna be a good one.

SPEAKER_02 6:44

While he's overseas, they ranked him up and got him.

SPEAKER_01 6:47

Yep.

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Yep.

SPEAKER_01 6:48

Now they sent back his ring with his initials LT. And I do mention in the episode that I think that this ring should have been discarded, but at the same time, this ring will be a little bit important down the road. Now, um, so basic so now Mamie's a single mom, but she has a couple of more failed relationships and marriages. So basically, she lives with her mom a lot.

SPEAKER_02 7:16

Yeah. But she's doing good for a kid, though. Oh, she's doing good for Emmett because Emmett has like a great personality. He's learning like he's he's telling jokes, he's outgoing in a community where he's spending a lot of time around a lot of people, and just uh uh he is just a bright sunshine ass kid, dude.

SPEAKER_01 7:36

Oh my god, did you see the pictures? Yeah, posted them in stories last week. Um, so if any of you guys uh haven't seen pictures of him until and want me to repost them, send me a comment. I will absolutely be more than happy to do that.

SPEAKER_02 7:52

Yeah, it wound up being a real big staple for black history. Like this really became the turning point for um uh a little bit more uh of a better step toward equality in the end of this, but some horrific shit does happen, and Lindsay's gonna tell you because I don't want to talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 8:10

So um so her other failed marriages were to uh Lamoris Mallory and Pink Bradley, which I do mention in the episode made me think of Friday. Friday. Yeah. Well, it was uh next Friday and Friday after next with Pinky. Pinky. Pinky, yes.

SPEAKER_03 8:32

Why?

SPEAKER_01 8:33

I'm sorry, I'm just laughing, thinking about Pinky because he's got the Jerry curl and it's juicy, and it's like Are those are not the best movies ever.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

Like we need we need the last Friday.

SPEAKER_01 8:44

The Friday trilogy. So our 20 years.

SPEAKER_02 8:47

Somebody hit up whoever they need to hit up and tell Ice Ice Cube to fucking finish off Friday, right? I mean, we need last Friday. We need it.

SPEAKER_01 8:59

Yes, I want Chris Tucker in that bitch. I want Big Worm. I want Double.

SPEAKER_02 9:03

Who's alive? Bring them all in. Just we can't have Witherspoon in there.

SPEAKER_01 9:10

CGI his ass in there, just like they did Princess Layla.

SPEAKER_02 9:13

Okay, did you say Layla?

SPEAKER_01 9:15

I did.

SPEAKER_02 9:16

You blasphemy? You can't blasphemy in front of me.

SPEAKER_01 9:19

I'm drinking vods. It's a whole different buzz for me.

SPEAKER_02 9:24

Nobody blasphemies my own blasphemy.

SPEAKER_01 9:27

I love you, Leia. Uh Jesse, so I I I watched all the older Star Wars trilogy when I was younger, but when I met Jesse.

SPEAKER_02 9:40

You had better nerd up, wouldn't you?

Abuse, War, And The LT Ring

SPEAKER_01 9:42

Yeah, he made me nerd up. And I have to be honest, like, I really love the later trilogy with Ray and Kyla Wren. I do.

SPEAKER_02 9:52

And we love Friday too, for sure.

SPEAKER_01 9:53

Oh, absolutely. So Mainey and Lewis live with her mother quite a bit. And but uh it hold on, let me get let me find my dates here, okay?

SPEAKER_02 10:10

Dude, I like my House of the Thousand Corpses shirt. Look at this. It is sorry this is a Christmas present.

SPEAKER_01 10:15

Christmas presents to Jesse from me.

SPEAKER_03 10:18

I know.

SPEAKER_01 10:19

House of the Thousand Corpses. We love the Rob Zombie um horror trilogy. It's not it's more than a trilogy. What are they? You got about five.

SPEAKER_02 10:29

We're all over the place right now.

SPEAKER_01 10:30

Yeah, we are.

SPEAKER_02 10:31

I love it.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

We need to we need to focus.

SPEAKER_02 10:33

Yeah, I'm sorry. Sorry. I'm just seeing me like, you know, whatever.

SPEAKER_01 10:40

So in 1951, Emmett and his mother moved to Chicago Southside, and Mamie is a queen ass bitch. Okay. She works for the Air Force, and uh she well, before that, she worked for social social security administration.

SPEAKER_02 10:59

She's doing like fucking undercover ops type filing and shit, right?

SPEAKER_01 11:03

Well, she worked for the Air Force where she was in charge of confidential files.

SPEAKER_02 11:07

Right.

SPEAKER_01 11:08

That's a big responsibility.

SPEAKER_02 11:09

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:10

Go Mami. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 11:12

At that time it's amazing. You know, and so many women did all the work during that war for sure.

SPEAKER_01 11:19

Well, she worked very long days, so Emmet, he had to step up and he had to help out. Um so he learned how to do chores and he had learned how to cook a little bit. You know, he did what he could. And but uh before all of this happened, Emmett did contract the polio virus.

SPEAKER_02 11:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:44

And it was running rampant through the country at this time. And so many, many, many people were they got a lot worse symptoms and things like that. But he he got better, but he did get a he developed a stutter from it and weak ankles, to which he had to wear special shoes.

SPEAKER_02 12:07

That was a lot changing right through there. I mean, they went through the Great Depression, now they have this war on, that was a polio pandemic.

SPEAKER_01 12:14

Oh and it's crazy because there was pandemics in the 20s and the 1900s, and then we've had pandemics in the 20s.

SPEAKER_02 12:24

And the 20s, yeah, 2000s, 20s, yeah. Wow. Guess uh humanity just keeps cycling in some bullshit, don't it?

SPEAKER_01 12:35

So they're living in Chicago, Mamie, Emmett, his grandmother, uh, they're everything is love, everything is wonderful. Then his grandpa I don't want to hit your mic. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 12:50

You did hit my mic.

SPEAKER_01 12:51

So his uncle Mo's up from Mississippi, and that's where Mamie is from. And he's to attend a funeral, and he is a reverend. Now, when he comes up, uh, Emmett's like, you know what, I really want to go back to Mississippi with my uncle for a little while during the summer.

SPEAKER_02 13:09

So he's just going down to check it out, right?

SPEAKER_01 13:12

He's going down to visit, he wants to hang with his extended family, he wants to do the thing. Now, Mamie is weary of this at first because Chicago and Mississippi in the 50s were two different worlds. Oh my god, I'm knocking over the mic. Two different worlds.

SPEAKER_02 13:35

And I'm just go do it, girl. Go ahead. Call.

SPEAKER_01 13:40

Mamie gives him several lectures and discussions about how different Chicago and Mississippi are.

SPEAKER_02 13:50

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 13:50

And let me go to my notes really quick so I can say.

SPEAKER_02 13:55

Yeah, we kind of broke off and we did a little deep dive a little bit more into that. Because it's it's really rough for a mother to have to break that down into a child instead of just being like, you know, go down and have fun with your uncle. No, we have to teach you the rules because your skin's not the same as theirs.

Emmett’s Personality And Polio

SPEAKER_01 14:11

Well, what she tells him is that he should not engage in conversation with white folks, that um he should never stare at a white woman. And if a white woman was walking down the street, he should go to the complete other side and keep his head down. And I do say in our episode that for me, I don't like that. I hate the fact that a mother had to have that conversation with her son. Right. I hate that. And she does say later on in you know, later times that this was the first time that she had ever had to have a conversation like that with him because he had only been raised on love, and she says, How do you teach a child hate when all he's ever known is love?

SPEAKER_02 15:00

Right, and how old is he now? He's 14. So he probably took that not so seriously. Right, because that was the downfall. But I mean, why would you try to it would be hard for a 14-year-old boy to suck that in all at one time and be like, come on, mom, whatever, mom. I just want to go have fun. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 15:19

When he's never experienced, not really, no.

SPEAKER_02 15:23

Nothing really, because he has his own community where he's living at. Everything is is is good.

SPEAKER_01 15:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 15:30

Then he gets down south.

SPEAKER_01 15:31

Well, yeah, he goes with Uncle Mo's uh to Money, Mississippi. And uh, so Uncle Mose's wife is Aunt Elizabeth, and they get there, and Uncle Moe's has them work.

SPEAKER_02 15:47

Um He's a sharecropper, so he has like the cotton. Yeah, they're growing stuff, they're making money. And right him and him and the kids and the cousins and the and the the the closer family and friends or whatever, they're making money.

SPEAKER_01 15:59

Cousins, community, friends, everything. Now, Uncle Mo's was a reverend, and on Emmett's uh third or fourth day, so it was August 20th, 1955, was when um Emmett went to money. And then let me look at my notes really quick. I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_02 16:19

But he's happy to go lucky down there. He's spending time with his friends and family, and he's making a little bit of money, you know. Hey, they're putting him to work, and he's associating with people, you know, he's he's back at his roots, which is the whole reason why he wanted to go. He wanted to go and check out where his mom was from and all the stuff. Yeah, I get it.

SPEAKER_01 16:36

Exactly.

SPEAKER_02 16:36

I get it. I mean, I've I have you not spent a summer or a week or so with a family member in a distant spot where you just like to be able to get away.

SPEAKER_01 16:43

So I spent a summer with my Aunt Catherine in Jacksonville, which is not where I'm from at all. But my Aunt Catherine was an absolute gem of a human being. She was well read, well-traveled. She had been a five-star chef at the Hilton in Las Vegas. Wow. And so I went and spent the summer with her because her friend needed a babysitter for their for her toddlers. She was going through divorce. So I signed on to that. And her friend was the manager of Eckerd's. Do you remember Eckerd?

SPEAKER_02 17:18

Yeah, I remember Eckards.

SPEAKER_01 17:19

So before CDS and Walgreens, there was Eckards.

SPEAKER_02 17:24

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 17:26

And that was your drugstore. That was your drugstore.

SPEAKER_02 17:30

We used to act like we were like these cool little gangsters back in the day, and we would throw up like the little folk nation sign and we'd say that was Eckards.

SPEAKER_01 17:37

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 17:37

Like all of our little gang signs always meant something. Like Eckards or Walmart, like for the West Side thing, you know, or stupid things. We Eckards, that was our little gang sign for Eckards.

SPEAKER_01 17:50

My Aunt Catherine was my aunt by marriage. Um, her husband, my Uncle James, was, you know, direct descendant. But uh, Uncle James, he had colon cancer, so he spent a lot of time in the hospital. But my Aunt Catherine taught me pretty much everything that I have instilled upon my life today. She was very clean, she knew how to cook well. I learned a lot.

SPEAKER_02 18:15

So that was an amazing adventure for you to go over there and do that. And that's probably what he was all fully expecting, just going down and having that connectivity and just having fun with his family members and taking all that in just the same as you. Right. No different.

SPEAKER_01 18:29

No. Except for a lot of things.

SPEAKER_02 18:32

Yeah.

Preparing Emmett For Jim Crow South

SPEAKER_01 18:33

Except for a lot of things. You know what was one really cool thing that I admired about my Aunt Catherine is she, other than grocery shopping, like her regular services, like car repair, hair, hair, she was the type of lady to get her hair curled and washed and curled every week.

SPEAKER_03 18:52

Right.

SPEAKER_01 18:53

She didn't pay for that. She bartered with her baked goods.

SPEAKER_02 18:56

Oh, that's that's awesome. We need more of that.

SPEAKER_01 19:00

She made killer ass banana bread and carrot cake cupcakes.

SPEAKER_02 19:04

Yeah. But I'm saying, like, as far as the feeling of you being able to go over there and participate in all that was the same feeling.

SPEAKER_01 19:10

It was really cool. Right.

SPEAKER_02 19:12

You know, that he had when he's moving down and hanging out with his uncle and his fam. And and so that was like all great stuff for him, you know?

SPEAKER_01 19:21

Until.

SPEAKER_02 19:22

Until, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Um, so it was on the 24th um of August in 1955. Mo's, his uncle, was to preach at the East Money Church of Christ. Now, he was like, you know what, y'all been working hard in these cotton fields. I'm not gonna make you go to church tonight. Y'all go have some fun and let them have his truck. So they all loaded up with cousins, friends. I mean, and then of course, right.

SPEAKER_02 19:53

They got little money. They're gonna go to the store, right? And they're just gonna load up and they're gonna go, hey, we've worked hard. Let's go to the store and go grab us some whatevers.

SPEAKER_01 20:03

Now he now Mo's told them not to go any further than the old country store that was near their area, which was probably black-owned. But it was so it was six boys and one girl, and they went a little further than they were supposed to, and they went to Bryant's country store, which was white-owned.

SPEAKER_02 20:24

And it's probably had cooler shit in the store, right? They probably had some cooler stuff. It was a little bit bigger store. They were like, let's go to the bigger store.

SPEAKER_01 20:31

Well, historically, I couldn't find any reason why they went a little further. They're just probably being rebellious kids, you know.

SPEAKER_02 20:38

Yeah, but I mean the the the local store might have not had as much stuff as the other one. You know what I'm saying?

SPEAKER_01 20:43

Might not have, yes.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

That was like us uh being kids and saying, let's go to Gainesville and do stuff, you know what I'm saying? Right. Yeah, so that's what they did, you know. They did the thing.

SPEAKER_01 20:51

I was gonna say, because my dad, when I first got my car, was like, you better not take your ass on the interstate. What did I do like the first weekend that they were out of town? Yeah. We went to Tampa and went to Busch Gardens.

SPEAKER_02 21:02

Oh, look at you, Lindsay. We've all done that though. Come on, but that's just being kids. You you're wanting to experience freedom, you know?

SPEAKER_01 21:13

We were the original plan was to take my friend Carrie's car, but it needed a new alternator.

SPEAKER_02 21:19

So your battery died?

SPEAKER_01 21:21

Or so my car was available.

SPEAKER_02 21:24

Oh, it's of yours. Okay.

SPEAKER_01 21:25

My car was brand new. And I mean, literally, so this was 98, and I had a 97 model car.

SPEAKER_02 21:31

You imagine no problems. The Spice Girls party on the way down to Tampa.

SPEAKER_01 21:36

So it was funny too because we went from uh like Trick Daddy to corn.

SPEAKER_02 21:44

Yeah, I mean it in the middle somewhere, I think.

SPEAKER_01 21:46

Corn and Limp Biscuit, and then yeah, I mean that was our oh and busy and busybum. That was like the three cassettes that we had.

SPEAKER_02 21:54

I get it.

SPEAKER_01 21:55

No, four. So we had corn, we had limp biscuit, we had Busy bone, and we had trick daddy. So as soon as the door closed, just like freak only and corn and lint biscuit was for me. So there were four of us. There was me, Carrie, Sheba, and Jenna. And corn and lint biscuit was basically for me and Carrie.

SPEAKER_02 22:19

Oh. And you was like, you was like this. You're driving, right? So you're like, well, it was me and Carrie.

SPEAKER_00 22:24

No, y'all be loving this shit right here.

SPEAKER_02 22:27

Yeah. And you're like, yeah, I got my pitches. We're finna go to push gardens and we're fucking rolling, dude.

SPEAKER_01 22:32

Rollin', rolling, rolling. Hold on, really quick.

SPEAKER_00 22:34

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 22:34

Breaking news.

SPEAKER_03 22:35

What?

SPEAKER_01 22:36

Breaking news. What? Jonathan Davis just announced for his uh he was being honored for 30 years.

SPEAKER_02 22:45

Oh, he did the homeless speech, right?

Money, Mississippi And Sharecropping Life

SPEAKER_01 22:49

He has dedicated, I'm gonna cry. He has dedicated to he has dedicated his royalties to be contributed to homeless vets and charities and everything forever. Boom. I cried reading this. Got enough money, dude. I'm good. Right? Got enough money, dude. There's a reason why I love him, Jesse. There's a reason why I love him.

SPEAKER_02 23:16

You know, there was this one time I tried to steal from him, though.

SPEAKER_01 23:19

You did?

SPEAKER_02 23:20

I did. I did. Back in '95. Right? I got to touch the Adidas jacket.

SPEAKER_01 23:29

I don't blame you.

SPEAKER_02 23:30

From the video, you know, the Adidas, you know. So they're doing like pre-freak on Elite.

SPEAKER_01 23:36

No, preo, what?

SPEAKER_02 23:37

Free Life is Peachy.

SPEAKER_01 23:39

Free life is peachy?

SPEAKER_02 23:41

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 23:42

This was 95 and follow the leader.

SPEAKER_02 23:45

They, I mean, they they had just recorded some of that stuff and hadn't even dropped the album yet. And I seen them in Jacksonville, and he came out with that Adidas sequence, the one from the video, you know, and I have my hand on it. And I was fixing to just slide it off the stage, and he kind of kicks it behind him. He's like, Never. As they're going off at Shades in Orange Park, if there's a lot of porn from the 90s. Oh man, that was that was.

SPEAKER_01 24:12

I fell in love with him in '98.

SPEAKER_02 24:14

I think I was 13 or 14, maybe, bro, dude. I was way, it was way back.

SPEAKER_01 24:19

15. So you were you were ahead of me, so you had to be 13, 14.

SPEAKER_02 24:23

Wow.

SPEAKER_01 24:24

Because you fell in love with them in life is peachy, right?

SPEAKER_02 24:26

Yeah. And I wasn't like trying to steal from Jonathan Davis. I was just like, I You were a fan. And on the Adidas jacket, you know. We got like a towel from Monkey. I got guitar picks and stuff like that. Because we were on that side of the stage, you know. And we haven't been on that side of the stage up close yet for corn with you and I. Have we? On the monkey side? Dude, we got to go on the monkey side, have we? No, no, no. Not close.

SPEAKER_01 24:49

Weaver head.

SPEAKER_02 24:50

Yeah, we did a head to the and I sang like a little canary the whole time, so annoying and loud. And I was like, shut up, Jesse.

SPEAKER_01 24:57

This is my first corning.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

So here's me, here's me in the festival grounds. Random dude here. I I'm shaking him and I'm acting like I'm holding a microphone and he's singing everywhere, and I'm singing every word, and we're singing loud, and we're acting like we're we're performing with corn in the crowd. You remember how many times I've done that with so many people? Offspring, I did that. Soundgarden, I did that. Like I just grab up random. Yeah, how weird is that? Is that weird to me? But they're having their best time, dude. They're having their best time.

SPEAKER_01 25:27

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 25:28

Everybody. That's how you gotta do it. It's all about camaraderie. Anyhow, Lindsay, I'm sorry. No, no, no, no. I wanted to give homage to Corn Uh JD. Like I love, I mean, the whole dynamics of that.

SPEAKER_01 25:39

Uh God bless you. So what he said was that he said, I have enough, but some people don't. And the fact that there are veterans that are sleeping in their cars or on the street does not sit well with me. So he is committing um a total of$250 million a year. You don't know that will go. You're good. Yeah. Yes, that's what he said. He's like, I have enough to um veterans and charities.

SPEAKER_02 26:10

And he'll facilitate that. For the rest of his life. Yeah, we'll be able to watch that transpire. It's not just money going out to something that everybody's gonna cut off parts of the cake. I think the whole cake's gonna go to them. I believe that.

SPEAKER_01 26:20

Yeah. Awesome. All right, so we're gonna go back to Emmett. So all these kids, neighbors and cousins, they have piled in Uncle Mo's truck and they didn't follow instructions. They didn't just go to the old country store. They went a little bit further and they went to Bryant's Grocery, which was owned by a very deep-rooted racist family. The father, he managed plantations and things like that. So Carolyn Bryant was the cashier that day. Now they just stopped in to get drinks, sodas. They wanted to play checkers on the porch, that type of thing.

SPEAKER_02 27:03

That's probably where they went. That was probably a little bit cooler atmosphere. Not that it was better for them. They just thought this is a cooler store. There's more stuff, you know, we can feel like we've gotten away with a little bit of freedom. Not that they're getting away with being rebellious or not listening. They the the desire to have a little bit more freedom at that age, it really overpowers that. Just the same as you going to Tampa. You know what I'm saying? It kind of just does.

SPEAKER_01 27:27

All I wanted to do was go to Busch Gardens with my friends, but Limp Biscuit. I was Limp Biscuit. I was punished as if I went for something completely different.

SPEAKER_02 27:38

Oh, you got punished afterwards? Oh well.

Bryant’s Grocery: The Store Encounter

SPEAKER_01 27:41

Now, there are several different accounts, like I do say, in the episode of what happened in the store. So at some point, Emmett was alone in the store for about a minute or less than. Now, Carolyn would say that Emmet would make a lot of sexual advances towards like being vile toward her. But the the girl, so the the entourage that you know Emmett was with in the truck, there was one female, the rest were boys. She said that the only mistake that she saw visually with her own eyes as this store was an open window store was that Emmett put the money directly in her hands. He probably said in Carolyn's hands.

SPEAKER_02 28:32

Right. By the way, you're beautiful. He might have said that. Maybe. Maybe. We don't even know. If that.

SPEAKER_01 28:39

So she said that the only mistake that he made was putting the money directly in her hand instead of on the counter, because that was an unspoken law in Mississippi at that time. And he was from Chicago.

SPEAKER_02 28:51

Justifiably by Jim Crowville, which is goddamn garbage.

SPEAKER_01 28:56

Now, Carolyn would say that he did a lot together.

SPEAKER_02 29:01

Touched her, grabbed her, grabbed her waist.

SPEAKER_01 29:07

You know, you want to go on a date. I've been with white women before and things like that.

SPEAKER_02 29:12

And he's 14. Right? So now he's just a little kid, just he's just 14 years old.

SPEAKER_01 29:19

14. Everybody close your eyes and visualize what you were doing at 14 years old.

SPEAKER_03 29:27

Alright.

SPEAKER_01 29:28

So now everybody does account to the fact that he gives Carolyn a wolf whistle as she is now going to her car to retrieve a pistol. I did.

SPEAKER_02 29:42

Like she's that distraught. Distraught.

SPEAKER_01 29:45

And she's thinking to go grab a 14-year-old kid making possible meditation moves at her. But we'll we'll get there. Now there was an interview with Mamie where Mamie, which is his mother, says that she taught him to whistle because he did have a stutter after his polio.

SPEAKER_02 30:09

Oh, this is something I don't know. What? This is new new, huh?

SPEAKER_01 30:13

So Mamie says that she taught him to whistle before he tried to speak. Because sometimes that would help him with his stutter.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

And that was what his cousins that don't really know him that well seen, huh?

SPEAKER_01 30:32

Right. I'm gonna I'm tearing up.

SPEAKER_02 30:33

But now is she but she's running to her car to go get a gun, too?

SPEAKER_01 30:37

She's running to her car to get a gun, and these kids all load up because they're terrified of white people. They load up in the truck and they take off. And they're actually feel like that they're being chased because there's a car behind them. So they go off into the woods and they wait for these cars to go by and then they go home.

SPEAKER_02 30:58

Why did they talk about none of this?

SPEAKER_01 30:59

Well, because sometimes I want to give a little extra in the recap.

SPEAKER_02 31:02

But Lindsay, it's like you're gonna break me again, dude.

SPEAKER_01 31:05

You're breaking me. Oh so Emmett begs all the kids not to tell Uncle Mo's what's going on. But unfortunately, in a small community, things travel fast, and Uncle Mose and Aunt Elizabeth, they find out everything really fast.

SPEAKER_03 31:21

Right.

SPEAKER_01 31:22

So they know what's going on, but they go to bed, and like the next day, as they're going to bed, it was the following day, Roy Bryant, who is Carolyn's husband, and his half half-brother JW Millum, they show up to the house and they threaten Mo's and they kidnap Emmett. They take him to several different locations, and in each location they do something different.

SPEAKER_02 31:53

And this is all about some he said she said bullshit.

SPEAKER_00 31:59

Lit biscuit.

SPEAKER_01 32:05

This is bad, dude. In the end, Emmett gets pistol whipped and shot and then connected to a cotton gin fan and sent down the Tallahassee.

SPEAKER_02 32:22

Which is like a big wooden fan, right? It's it's it's it's part of the implements of the cotton gin where they're refining the cotton and and sorting out the seeds in the cotton and stuff. Now to which was invented by a black woman, I think, right? It was. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:37

Black women were behind everything. I just need to work.

SPEAKER_02 32:39

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 32:40

I'm about to share in stories today. This will be a week later when this comes out.

SPEAKER_02 32:44

But to beat him, pistol whip him, and they shot him. Yes. And tied him to that.

SPEAKER_01 32:50

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 32:51

Which was found a couple days later.

SPEAKER_01 32:52

He was mutilated.

SPEAKER_02 32:54

Mutilation.

The Whistle, The Gun, And The Escape

SPEAKER_01 32:55

So a few days later, he is found by a couple of boys that were just trying to catch some catfish. And but before that, Uncle Mo's, you know, when Emma didn't return within 30 minutes, he went to go look for him. And then he finally got another friend of his to call the sheriff in that county that they were in, which was Sumner in Mississippi, now Sumner, Florida, which we will be talking about in a few days.

SPEAKER_02 33:27

Sumner, Florida?

SPEAKER_01 33:28

Yeah.

unknown 33:30

Oh.

SPEAKER_02 33:32

More debackery that you're gonna dump on me that happened, really.

SPEAKER_01 33:36

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 33:37

Historically debauchery.

SPEAKER_01 33:38

Historically. So um Uncle Mo's gets a friend to contact the sheriff in Sumner and the sheriff in another county. Ooh, do I can't get my eyes on it right now. Basically, they contacted two sheriffs in two different two different surroundings.

SPEAKER_02 33:58

Kind of reaching out to come back in, right?

SPEAKER_01 34:00

But they also contact Mamie, who's in Chicago, and she had the good sense about her to contact the African American black community media.

SPEAKER_02 34:13

So this is where the storm really starts as far as black equality, because what she gathers up there is enough power to blow up and make awareness for the nation.

SPEAKER_01 34:28

And at this point, she doesn't know that her son is gone. She doesn't know. She's thinking she thinks he's kidnapped.

SPEAKER_02 34:35

Right. Right. Knowing that her kids probably didn't do anything wrong.

SPEAKER_01 34:39

Nothing.

SPEAKER_02 34:39

I mean, to the point to where this does not merit a fucking kidnapping or beating or the other that we talked about.

SPEAKER_01 34:48

So Roy and JW, they were questioned and they did admit to kidnapping Emmett, but they said that they released him right in front of Bryant's store, which was a fucking lie. And then three days later, two boys who were fishing along Tallahatchie River, they discovered his body. Yeah. And he was nude, he was swollen, disfigured, and had been absolutely mutilated.

SPEAKER_02 35:18

And the only way that they can recognize it was from his daddy's ring.

SPEAKER_01 35:22

Exactly. And that's the only reason why I'm glad Mamie didn't throw away that ring because that what that is what was used to identify his wife.

SPEAKER_02 35:33

Well, then you try to hang on, even if, you know, and that's what we're talking about in the podcast was like you gotta check it out. Because like we're I do not agree with the human that was his dad. He was a horrible ass human, but you know, to be able to hand that to your son and be like, you know, this was your father's, and just don't say anything else about it, and then build better from there on. You know what I'm saying? So it wound up being the only recognizable thing he was that mutilated. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 36:03

Well, now after his body was discovered, um they b uh the people in the area basically tried to shut it down and kind of sweep away what had happened, but maybe.

SPEAKER_02 36:17

Yeah, this is all good. We're we're all good. Let's just let's wrap this thing up, right?

SPEAKER_01 36:21

Mamie was like, absolutely not. Uh, you better ship my son's body to Chicago. I agree. Where she did hold an open oh, I'm gonna cry because I I've got the images in my head. She did hold an open casket funeral for him.

SPEAKER_02 36:38

Which they had like the plexiglass over top where they could actually see.

SPEAKER_01 36:41

No, there was no plexiglass.

SPEAKER_02 36:43

There was no plexiglass, it was it looked like there was uh all the way open. Oh and he was so disfigured you could not tell this little child that was beautiful. You could not even tell. It was just so horrific. I'm trying to breathe through it. But for her to be that strong and to be like, you know what? No, this is what happens for him just being a darker complexion.

Kidnapping, Torture, And Murder

SPEAKER_01 37:09

And she did go on to join the NAACP in a campaign to raise funds for their movement. And this entire this this whole horrific situation did spark or one of the it was one of the reasons the beginning of a lot of things that sparked the civil rights movement.

SPEAKER_02 37:30

Who's the woman that did it before Rosa Parks? What was her name? Because that was also a afore, yeah.

SPEAKER_01 37:38

Yeah, yeah, you're right. She's not the first one, but next week we'll talk about that.

SPEAKER_02 37:42

You know, bringing that up next week we'll talk about that because um we need to speak about it. Sorry, we're tired, we're telling our kids to be quiet. Yeah, they're coming through. But um, there's so many people that stood up, you know, because fear itself had so much control over all that. And we talked about that in uh what's coming out too, like this week. We talked about that in the new podcast uh that's coming out this Friday.

SPEAKER_01 38:06

Yes, yeah where we talk about the rosewood mascara.

SPEAKER_02 38:09

Fear itself really controlled so many things, just like they told his his his uh uncle. They were like, You better not say anything about this, you'll not make the next year, right?

SPEAKER_01 38:20

Right, yeah, you'll not make the next. Exactly what they told Mo's. They asked him how old he was, JW and Roy.

SPEAKER_02 38:26

And we're fixing to talk about Rosewood, right? And I know about that one, so you gotta check that out this Friday. Oh my goodness though, Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 38:35

So Roy and JW were indicted for murder uh in September of 1955, and now the this was widespread in media, and a lot of the black community from Chicago did attend this trial, and the visceral things that the white folks was saying in Mississippi. The sheriff um welcomed them by saying hello in words, and I do talk about this in the yeah, it just fucking deep-seated deep-seated racism. They're liberated ass, fucking free ass. Excuse me? Right. Excuse me. Now the prosecution would criticize uh excuse me, the defense would criticize Mamie for not being emotional enough. Like, shut the fuck up.

SPEAKER_02 39:35

No, she's beyond that. She's a revolutionist.

SPEAKER_01 39:38

She has probably cried all of her tears out, but now she's just mad.

SPEAKER_02 39:42

She has a fist in the air in the land of hypocrisy. I mean, she really does. Yeah, all that. That boom. Yes, boom. I mean, really, she is like, you know what? I'm in this stage right now of my grieving, and I am wanting fucking real ass justice.

SPEAKER_01 39:59

And you cannot judge anybody on how that they grieve.

SPEAKER_02 40:05

No.

SPEAKER_01 40:05

Because, and I do say this in the episode, you can only cry so many tears before you dry out.

SPEAKER_02 40:12

Well, and I've been through those stages. You know, I've been through like real shit where you have to go through every one of those stages.

SPEAKER_01 40:20

All the stages.

SPEAKER_02 40:21

Which happens, you know, but at the same time, I understand where you you you have that. You know, you're gonna have either resentment that you go through your your pain, your there's just so many stages. I think there's like seven. How many stages are there in grief? I think it's seven.

SPEAKER_01 40:38

But so we have both lost grandparents, you did too, yes.

SPEAKER_02 40:42

We lost a parent.

SPEAKER_01 40:45

I lost a very close friend, and so we have been through a lot of grief in our time. And I am just we're both very fortunate that we have not lost a child. Yeah, so I cannot you talk this around me, Lindsay. I cannot imagine anything that Mamie went through because not only did she lose her child, she lost her child to brutal murder. Yeah, senseless, brutal murder. And you can't judge anybody that's going through that. And I'm gonna stop that right there because I'm gonna cry.

SPEAKER_02 41:29

Thank you guys on the lives though for coming in. Yes, and uh so much on the regular podcast. Like if you want to check out our lives, we do go on live. And where can you find that out, Lindsay?

SPEAKER_01 41:40

Drink About Something Pod underscore Lindsay.

Discovery, Identification, And The Ring

SPEAKER_02 41:45

There you go, on TikTok, right? So check that out once a week and just follow all the stuff, drinkabout something. Or you can go on uh YouTube and just type in Gin Z, J-E-N-D-S-E-Y, and you can check out all these crazy ass stories that Lindsay tells me that I don't know much about. Really, I do know about Rosewood, though. It's coming up. Oh my god, Lindsay. How many towns of these exact scenarios have run through Friday the 13th? It's really ran through like the United States, especially through Black Equality where people are just trying to be I hate it and they point their heart. They fucking finger and just shut down whole communities more than just what's validated. There's no fucking real tangible things that's happened.

SPEAKER_01 42:38

Well, Roy and JW, they get acquitted for murder and kidnapping, even though they admitted to the kidnapping.

SPEAKER_02 42:47

So you don't get nothing. Y'all can go on back home, you're good.

SPEAKER_01 42:52

And a year, one year, one year later, so this all happened in 1955, and one year later in 1956, they would uh share in an interview with William Bradford Huey that they did, in fact, murder Emmett Till.

SPEAKER_02 43:10

And uh feel like they can just say that and fucking get away with it. It don't matter.

SPEAKER_01 43:14

Make sure you go back and listen to our episode so we can tell you all the tea.

SPEAKER_02 43:19

And you'll see me all the way pissed off. I swear. I am right now still fully on. I gotta, I mean, I've been drinking too much. Oh, not enough, probably.

SPEAKER_01 43:29

Carolyn Bryant, the bitch who started all of this, she would later admit in 2007 that nothing that boy did could ever justify what happened to him. That's what Carolyn Bryant said.

SPEAKER_02 43:46

There you go.

SPEAKER_01 43:47

She said that Roy was abusive towards her and she was afraid of him, and that JW was a domineering and brutal man and not a kind man. And I understand that. I am a victim of abuse myself, but at the same time, I you overcame it. I don't want to act like I'm better than anybody. Period. I literally got my ass beat on several occasions for sticking up for what was right in different situations from an abusive husband. So I don't understand, Carolyn. I don't understand at all. So roughin.

SPEAKER_02 44:32

This is a rough and now.

SPEAKER_01 44:33

A rough and as I do talk about in um our episode, the open casket of Emmettil also inspired Kendrick Johnson's mother to also have an open casket, and you can find okay. So if you watch the documentary about Kendrick Johnson, they do talk about that. I also listened to the audiobook The Blood of Emmettil by Timothy B. Tyson, who is also the author that Carolyn Bryant admitted her bullshit to her lack of oh, what's the words I'm looking for? Help me out here.

SPEAKER_02 45:24

Clarity, empathy, honesty, uh, everything, like all the E's.

SPEAKER_01 45:29

Yes.

SPEAKER_02 45:30

I mean, seriously, another E. I just want to say that you want to say another E, that this is not what really went down. He doesn't deserve any of this. Daddy, don't go after him. This is not what really happened, right?

SPEAKER_01 45:44

Right. Now, Carolyn Roy and JW did all die from cancer at some point in their life. Now, we want to do want to say fuck cancer because cancer knows no bounds.

SPEAKER_02 45:58

But as far as these three motherfuckers go, it wasn't soon enough, but it wasn't soon enough. She lived a long ass fucking life.

Mamie’s Open Casket And Media Power

SPEAKER_01 46:08

The Blood of the Emmett Till is the audiobook that I listened to, which is also by Timothy B. Tyson, who Carolyn Bryant admitted.

SPEAKER_02 46:18

So if you're an enthusiastic discrepancies? Has it got an F in it? Discrepancies.

SPEAKER_01 46:27

Discrepancies, too.

SPEAKER_02 46:28

We're gonna put an F in that bitch because fuck them.

SPEAKER_01 46:30

Discrepancies. Discrepancies.

SPEAKER_02 46:32

There's discrepancies. But no, for real. Follow him because if you're an enthusiast and you want to learn about real history, he's a great historian, you know. And I love a backstory stories behind it, but I love finding it.

SPEAKER_01 46:47

Fuck Carolyn Bryant, but it does give a backstory into her racist background.

SPEAKER_02 46:54

Oh, her family and her shit.

SPEAKER_01 46:57

And a little bit who a little bit more who Roy Bryant was and JW Millam was, and yeah. You know what's funny about our area?

SPEAKER_02 47:08

You know what's funny about our area? Most of the most racist rednecks around this area like rap music. Isn't that weird? They listen to the culture and the things.

SPEAKER_03 47:18

My ex-husband.

SPEAKER_02 47:19

It's like the people that that'll drop some N-word out of nowhere at a bomfire. That's what they love. Like, why are they hanging on their culture and then not supporting their humanity? Why? I don't understand. I fucking understand this. I don't understand this.

SPEAKER_01 47:33

My ex-husband is one of the most racist people I've ever been around in my life. Loved hip hop. And loved a lot of. Hold on, I gotta drag this puzzle piece from my TikTok. Hold on one second.

SPEAKER_02 47:48

What is this? Oh, you got a thing to do for the lives, yeah. But no, why is that a thing too? Why is any any of this just uh it's it's unhumane to to and we're talking about recent real things, just the same with Kendrick, right? Hashtag fucking justice, because I think that's some shady shit. But there's a lot of people here in the South that like to cling on to some of this culture and things, but they're shitty ass people toward the culturalistic people, and they don't embrace it. I don't understand this. I don't understand this. Why is this a thing?

SPEAKER_01 48:21

My ex-husband saw a he wasn't even um a completely black boy. He was a mixed boy and a white girl together at a gas station. Turned his, I mean, like, turned his car around. Granted, I just want everybody to know, I was 18 and he was 25.

SPEAKER_02 48:43

While listening to Tupac, let me whip my fucking truck around, right? And say that this is some fucking bullshit and it's ungodly that this is happening.

SPEAKER_01 48:52

He literally drove up to this couple or to this girl.

SPEAKER_02 48:56

Listening to dear mama.

SPEAKER_01 48:57

Dear mama, precious girl, and told her that she was a sick ass bitch.

SPEAKER_03 49:06

That's what I'm talking about.

SPEAKER_01 49:07

Why is this a so embarrassed and so ashamed? Like I mean, that marriage did not last long. I am 40. How old am I? 43 years old. That marriage ended up when I was 21 years old.

SPEAKER_02 49:23

So look at Lindsay not living in fear no more. No, look at you, girl. Go, girl. No, I have it, I have experienced this thing as being Caucasian, of course, all the way up to Appalachia. Why are they why is there uh how how do you fucking hang on to something that you love so dearly in the music of and not support I I don't understand it. I don't even know how to talk about it. But if you know where I'm getting do you know where I'm getting it too, 100% understand. Why is this a thing? Like, I don't even know how to put it into words at this moment because I'm confused, right? Do I feel uh do I feel validated on this fucking subject? It's a fucking full. I mean, we're we're metalheads through and through. Like through and through but we love music all around. We play it on our podcast. At the end of our podcast, you can check it all out.

SPEAKER_01 50:12

Jesse and I both love Biggie Tutok, yeah, phone thug.

SPEAKER_02 50:17

DNA. It's DNA. DMX. DMX. The snake, the rat, the cat, and the dog. How are you gonna see them when they're living in the fall? Yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 50:26

Cube, Dr. Trey. Yeah, weird.

SPEAKER_02 50:29

We love it. We love it.

SPEAKER_01 50:31

You know, and we kind of when it comes together, too. They love trap metal.

The Trial, Racism, And Acquittal

SPEAKER_02 50:36

The newer folks, like the younger folks and all that stuff, like Landon and stuff, they really latch on to our flow because you know there was pop music itself had all the categories, did it not? It had metal, it had you know, System of Down was a metal Grammy Award-winning pop artist. Do you fucking know that metal was the flow? But at the same time, the Family Values tour wraps it all up, right?

SPEAKER_01 51:06

I mean, Limp Biscuit is literally rap with metal instruments in the back.

SPEAKER_02 51:10

Oh. But, anyways, and I got a band that's like perfect for that for next week.

SPEAKER_01 51:17

But we're also very passionate about the fact that people of color were done wrong generation after generation. After this country was founded, I'm doing quotation marks for our audio listeners by Spanish and and British people. Um it's bullshit. There was no reason for any inequality friends of color to be treated less than, lower than anything.

SPEAKER_02 51:55

And it was supposed to be written in the declaration, but it got written out. Because you wanted that free ass fucking laboratory. And what's fucking bastards.

SPEAKER_01 52:03

Is you know, Abraham Lincoln died for the cause of abolishing saver slavery.

SPEAKER_02 52:11

Yeah, 16 presidents later. Yes, the digression happened for 70 years after that.

SPEAKER_01 52:29

Fucking people, and that hurts my heart so much.

SPEAKER_02 52:33

Which is what we're gonna talk about this Friday because there's a 70 year gap between there and Rosewood.

SPEAKER_01 52:39

Yep.

SPEAKER_02 52:39

And they built a whole ass community.

SPEAKER_01 52:41

Mm-hmm.

SPEAKER_02 52:42

And flourishing you show right back up what you're fucking surprised. 70 years.

SPEAKER_01 52:50

70 years. So make sure y'all check out our episode on Friday, February 13th, where we talk about the Rosewood Massacre. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 53:04

Thank you guys on the lives. Thank you guys for listening to us. Lindsay, I don't know if I need more breakage because I'm I'm I'm like I'm chilling.

SPEAKER_01 53:11

This is our longest recap yet.

SPEAKER_02 53:14

We're allowed to, but I just Lindsay.

SPEAKER_01 53:17

We're just we're we're horrified with Emmett Till. I was able to enlighten my 20-year-old who did not know about any of this.

SPEAKER_02 53:28

No one needs to grasp onto a culturalistic thing, and music is very culturalistic. You are racist on the side of it.

SPEAKER_01 53:36

No, and you were not taught it in history. I am lucky enough to have had an amazing history teacher who taught me about Emmett's Hill. And Emmett's Hill in our upcoming episode about Rosewood should be taught in every history class.

SPEAKER_02 53:55

Which is what I talk about in the world. Yes, I definitely talk about it. I probably bring it in in the middle school age, but it needs to be brought in the right way. I really think that they should be talked about in households. And I was given applause because I gave applause to anybody that wants to support raising your children right and teaching them that everybody is equal under the sun.

SPEAKER_01 54:20

People are people and love is love. And that uh, other than our other tagline, come for the story and stay for the band because Jesse on our regular episodes always cleanses our palette with an amazing band that he has either sought out or that band has sought him out and be like, hey, share our talents.

SPEAKER_02 54:45

And that's the only way I can break away from what you tell me there.

SPEAKER_01 54:49

This is our palette cleanser. I think at the end of the episodes. So we're gonna do our plugs really quick and then we're gonna sign off. So we are our main website is drinkaboutsomething. On Instagram, we are drinkabout something. On Gmail, we are drinkaboutsomething pod at gmail.com. On TikTok, drinkabout something pod underscore Lindsay, where you can watch our lives every week that we do have.

SPEAKER_02 55:16

Thank you for those hundred downloads that we had the other day.

SPEAKER_01 55:19

Oh my god.

SPEAKER_02 55:20

Oh, that was awesome. Thank you.

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Jesse's gonna start doing little side stories for us.

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I did one. Yeah.

Confessions, Carolyn’s Retraction, Legacy

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Now you got so you talked about Aunt Aggie. Now you gotta talk about Queenie. You gotta research Queenie.

SPEAKER_02 55:32

Oh, yeah, just north after that. Check out the Aunt Aggie's Boneyard. Check that story out, y'all. Wow.

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We love you so much. We thank you so much for your support. We thank you. Did I say that right? Because I haven't been drinking vodka all day.

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You did say we thank you for thanking you. I think you said you think.

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Thank you so much for your support. And please continue with more support for us. And yeah.

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Hit us up and come to our table. If you want to talk some shit with us, we're gonna talk some shit.

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You're invited to the table, to the barbecue, to all the things.

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Yeah.

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Hit us up in the sound.

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Hit us up in the inbox. We'll we'll grill out and chill out. Talk about it.

SPEAKER_01 56:20

Oh my god, that's a good one. Grill out and chill out.

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Yeah.

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And then drink about something is where you come for the story and you stay for the band.

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Yeah.

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Yes.

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Yeah, Lindsay, thank you. Uh I'm out.

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So I'm out too. So we're gonna cut off our video and we're gonna cut off our live on TikTok. We love you guys so much for following. Thank you so much.

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Cheers, cheers, love you. Bye.