Human Design - Motherhood & Entrepreneurship w/ Breanna Owen Part 1, 2 & 3

HEY!!! Remember when I said my episodes were less than 20 minutes and I like to keep them bite sized. WELL not this one.

To be fair I am having a conversation with an amazing woman, Breanna Owen, who is an amazing email marketing genius as she INTEGRATES human design into the mix. She takes YOUR human design and uncovers the magic for marketing and communicating, even connecting, with your audience through your human design! It's truly amazing.

We also get into motherhood, our needed uniqueness and there are points where we are just having THE BEST realizations. This is a longer episode so feel free to listen in tid bits! 

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Transcript

Ruhi: [00:00:00] All right, welcome back. I don't know what episode this is going to be, so I'm not even gonna say it because I don't keep track and I'm not that organized, nor do I want to be. Okay. So we have today a guest, Brianna. She does, um, email marketing and spec. She's very amazing though 'cause she uses your human design for your email marketing and how to best communicate with your audience, how to get these amazing, crazy results with all in your chart.

Like your human design is her map and her roadmap and getting to know you. And she's also, of course, a mom and does all the things. So, um, yeah, she's here today with us and she's coming from, she's coming from being out and about with the kids. So if you guys hear noises. Stuff.

Breanna: thank

Ruhi: We are women

Breanna: Thank you

Ruhi: with lives and children and we're making shit happen.

So,

Breanna: That's

Ruhi: everyone, yeah, [00:01:00] everyone will just have to deal with it. Um, hi.

Breanna: Hi! Thanks for having me, friend. I really, uh, maybe I'd be in a quiet room for a little bit longer. But, like you said, we're, we're women. We're moms doing business. And sometimes that means we have a little background story.

Ruhi: Yeah, and that's totally okay because as everybody knows that listens to my podcast, this is unedited and they're just gonna have to deal with it.

Breanna: Yup!

Ruhi: Like, or just don't listen. I don't know what to tell them. Okay. So more about like, I love, I love, I can't emphasize enough your use of human design, but also your understanding of it.

Like obviously the way you use it is unique because until I met you, I had no idea you can.

Breanna: going to go right, because he

Ruhi: Like, oh, here. This is how you communicate to people, like how you can communicate to your audience and who is your best audience and all this stuff. And yeah, and then you get that all from their chart. But also the [00:02:00] way you look at human design is unique because you're not, it's not like a cookie cutter.

Like when I hear you explain things, it won't be like, oh, I've heard that. Or

Breanna: front

Ruhi: feel like you could just read that from Google. Like it's very unique. So tell us more about, like,

Breanna: like,

Ruhi: I wanna know first how, or tell me what you do, like specifically your process maybe,

Breanna: the meeting,

Ruhi: but then I wanna know how you discovered this.

Like how one day you were like,

Breanna: Bye! Right.

Ruhi: your chart human, and then you went from there.

Breanna: Right.

Ruhi: Well.

Breanna: So my process, what it looks like is, um, so when I work with clients, it's either within their, we always start in strategy even before I get to copy.

I need to know what I'm doing before I do it. And so even when looking at their email strategy, I want to be able to, I feel like the way that I could be of best service to my clients. is doing what is best for them and not necessarily what seems most [00:03:00] obvious or like my own unconscious bias when writing their stuff or creating their strategy like i need it to matter to them that's the point of what i do and why i do it It's to help them. And so let's make sure it's actually helpful for them and to them. um, I will look at their chart to get a sense of like their energy type tells me kind of like a general how are they going to approach things like you are a projector. So I know that you need to be recognizing yourself first. I know you need to be asking for the invitation. Um, and I know that you don't have a ton. You don't have like this sacral energy where you are almost like an energizer bunny. And so your emails don't need to be a lot either. Um, but they are going to be like, what is it that you're seeing? Because as a projectors, you are, um, an advisor and this guy, right?

And so do you hear how even just [00:04:00] knowing that information? It can be like, oh, okay, so that, how do we then make that show up in your email?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: Um, you know, so I look at, I look at the big things, I look at their energy type, I look at, like, the profile lines, example, you again are, you got the 3 -5 line, right?

That's your profile?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

Breanna: So the three line is all about, like, real life in action, and what are you doing, and what are you trying out, and what, what works well and what doesn't work well, because you learn things by doing it the hard way,

Ruhi: Yes, I do.

Breanna: by real life. It's the F around and find out line, I like to

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: it.

And so, and then that five line is very, very tangible, practical, but outside of the box, usually, uh, solutions to some sort of a problem. And so, where can we, like, if I was writing an email for you, or developing an email strategy for you, I'd be like, just with that information, I'd be like, okay, So tell me where you [00:05:00] are really recognizing yourself and really feel success and what you are seeing in the world. And like, what is it that you have done recently that you're like, I did that. And that didn't go so well because we love, we love us some bloopers and we love the outtakes from the three lines, right? And then what's the, what's the tangible solution that you would give someone else in that situation? And that would be how I could write an email just from your energy type of profile line. And there's a lot of other stuff that I look at within, um, someone's design type, you know, of the, you know, their ideal audience that's in your, you know, Your chart of like, who is it that you're talking to because they have their own specific name. So, um, I haven't talked about who your idol people are. I think we have right?

The

Ruhi: I don't,

Breanna: have a six line.

Ruhi: I know. Yeah. I think you said sixes were part of it, and then something else. Because I think it was like, so I think it was actually one of your, [00:06:00] was it your thing?

Breanna: Maybe I can't remember. I'd have to go back and look, but

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: let's just go with the six line. So if

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: have a six line audience and your six line audience. about, wants to know that you are walking the talk and that you aren't just telling them to do something you're not doing for yourself. And so again, so how can we take that story of something that you figured out the hard way and maybe what didn't go so well with it and the practical solution. That you have for people out of it, and we're going to tell that story in a way that demonstrates how you are doing that, too. You're not just saying for them to do it, but you are a living, embodied

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: of what you are talking about.

Ruhi: That's so funny you say that because a long time ago I had an intuitive hit during a breathwork session and then just other times 'cause my higher self and guides and whatnot are trying to tell me things and I don't listen and then they keep telling me 'cause I'm stubborn. Um, and so what happens is don't ever [00:07:00] tell my husband.

Breanna: of you.

Ruhi: I admitted to that. Okay. Like, because we have this thing going who's more stubborn and it's almost like an opposite competition, but I deny that I am. Um, so, but with that I've always heard like, tell your story, like get your stories out there, get your experiences out there. And I think that's one reason I started the podcast.

'cause

Breanna: Yes.

Ruhi: very hard for me to just talk to my phone and tell it a story. Right.

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: Um, but yeah, so when you're talking about all this stuff, I'm like, wow, that ha, that's a thing. Because even before I knew this, I already had the inkling and the knowing of like, oh, maybe I should be doing this. So it's really weird how that kind of like ties into Yeah, I love that.

It's validation.

Breanna: yeah, I found your chart. I found your chart.

Ruhi: Um,

Breanna: and then, yeah, I mean, even from that aspect of the storytelling, like, We, the voice center within

Ruhi: okay.

Breanna: human design chart, it's the center with the most gates and [00:08:00] each is because it's got 11 gates. So there are 11 different like tones or flavors or like almost like radio stations. Like there are 11 different radio stations within the float center and depending on which ones you have activated or if you have none activated that is

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: that can even give some guidance to Oh, these are the stories that are best for you to be telling.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: Um, and I have found like I was talking with someone just this week who we were having a strategy session specifically on her voice of like, Hey, what are the best stories for you to tell?

How, what's the best way for you to tell stories so that when she goes to create from content, it's like, Oh, Whether it's email or social or even on sales calls or whatnot, she is focusing on the stories that do the most work for her, that are the best for her to tell.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: like talking about it from that perspective of like, And it was funny because she was saying how she would, she would say that she's not a very good [00:09:00] storyteller and it's just like, it's hard for me to come up with stories. And, um, and so like this type of information can give you the, almost like the stepping stones and the building blocks to be like, oh, so that you know what and how to use the muscles as you develop

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: you

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: You

Ruhi: And it's good to know that I definitely, yeah, I definitely believe we could also like create skills or just tell ourselves a different story. So our brain believes in a different story.

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: if I wasn't good at storytelling, I would just be like, I'm amazing at storytelling. And I don't mean it in a way of like, oh, let me just lie to myself.

But like I would just find ways in which, like, I love stories.

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: could easily communicate stories. Like it would just kind of be, um. Go from there. 'cause I think that helps a lot too. So obviously your guidance with her and her starting to believe in herself, and sometimes we just need someone to believe in us too.

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: way we know it's not all like, I mean, external validation isn't like [00:10:00] what's needed for everything, but it just adds a cherry on top. So

Breanna: but it

Ruhi: kind of,

Breanna: another perspective to look at,

Ruhi: yeah.

Breanna: like, oh, wait, maybe I am good at this. Because I, that's something I told myself for a really long time, too, is like, I'm actually not very good at telling stories. And what I realized was it felt like I was, um, this, I was like on one side of almost like a canyon or

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: Of not being a good storyteller, but being able to tell good stories was on this

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: of the canyon, and I did not know how to get there.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: And so it was less of, I'm not very good at telling stories, and

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: know how to get good at telling

Ruhi: Ah, yeah.

Breanna: so, once I was able to be like, oh, it's this.

I really feel like this because I don't know how to get good at them.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: it's like, okay, so then the question became, how do I get good at telling stories?

Ruhi: There you go. Yeah.

Breanna: so again, like looking at my own chart was able to be like, oh, these are the stories that you [00:11:00] tell.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: tell me, um, anytime you have a session with someone, anytime you're working with someone, just then go immediately like, oh my gosh, I just did this great thing.

It was really awesome. Here's what we talked about. And that did not feel good to me.

Ruhi: Hmm.

Breanna: she was telling me to do it, I was like, I don't, I don't, I don't know. I don't know about that. then, you know, as I was really processing and sitting with that advice, Over the next week or so, I was like, I don't, I hear what she's saying, I hear that this is the

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: do it, but like, my body is like, I don't want to.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: And what's funny is, um, I ended up doing some work for her, so I got to look at her chart, and she has this gate in her voice that is speaking the moment, it's the present moment. And

Ruhi: Okay.

Breanna: is storytelling in the now. so it

Ruhi: Mm.

Breanna: makes sense how she would say like, Oh my gosh, my best stories come when I speak in the moment, exactly right after

Ruhi: Right.

Breanna: I don't [00:12:00] have that gate. And not only do I not have that gate, one of the, I have three, three of the voice gates. One of the, the three that I do have is a reflective storyteller.

Ruhi: Mm.

Breanna: I am meant to tell stories well afterward, after I really had a chance to sit with it and process it and figure out what the meaning is from it.

Where's the lesson in it? that, it, like, um, becomes aware to me, then I can go tell the story. So again, it makes so much sense why my body was, was so resistant to this idea of like, Oh, tell the story as soon as it happens.

Ruhi: 'cause it didn't align with you. You're like, no, I'm not gonna do that, and I'm gonna find out why I don't wanna, well, and like you said, the perspective thing is really awesome because I, I mean, it reminded me that like we have so many limiting beliefs programmed in us where if someone else on the outside sees that and they're like, oh, I don't have [00:13:00] those limiting beliefs, you're really good at this.

Or you're, you're actually doing a great job. So I don't know where that might be stemming from. And yeah, just remind me that sometimes we can have those people around us that are also able to see more clearly because of all of the things that have been put in. You know, you grow up and you're told, like for me, I was told I was too loud and I talk too much.

And now I tell people

Breanna: Right.

Ruhi: literally get paid and my whole exist. Like my work is to talk and listen and be, it's so funny to me. It's so funny. Yeah. But that is so cool. Okay, so how. Did you discover human design? And then how did you decide, oh, you can find out this, I'm gonna help people with their, their market, their email marketing, and get their message

Breanna: right.

Ruhi: you know, yeah.

Breanna: Well, I found human design, um, on a road trip one summer. I think it was actually, I think it's been four years now. The summer marks four years. I had been hearing about, um, [00:14:00] and been following someone on Instagram actually, like a business connection. And she kept sharing in their stories about being a projector. And she would share all of these different things. And I love me a personality test, right?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: so into the Enneagram for so long. I've done the disc survey. Like I love, like anything that can help me better understand myself, I'm in. Please help me make sense of who I am in the way that I am. And

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: give me, yeah, we could go on this whole pandit about self -awareness and

Ruhi: Right.

Breanna: right?

Ruhi: Oh my gosh. But I found out I was a projector. Yes.

Breanna: Right!

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: so I finally, but I had never heard of this personality test. I had

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: of this. And I finally, like, clicked on enough things where I was like, Oh! the projector, but that doesn't, I don't know what I am.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: while my husband was driving, cause I hate driving.

Ruhi: Me too.

Breanna: six, for six hours, I was able [00:15:00] to like, just go down this rabbit hole of what is this thing? And then I found out you only need your information. You need to know when you were born, where you were born, what time you were born.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: That's you mean, I don't have to answer 13 and a half pages of questions

Ruhi: Oh my God.

Breanna: enough context.

To give you like a straight, I, I don't know what I'm missing information. I can't tell you, I can't tell you what I would do. I can't tell you I'm, I agree, strongly agree or strongly disagree. Like what else is happening here? Right? I don't have to do any of that. I just have to know what time I was born. Done. Done. please. then so I started looking at it and I was like, Oh no, this really resonates. I really like this. And again, six hours on the car. So I pulled up my husband's information.

Ruhi: Oh, wow.

Breanna: doing all of my kids.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: was like, this stuff is fascinating.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: I ended up bringing it up in a conversation with some friends.

It's not, [00:16:00] again, it's not something I'd ever heard of. And not ironically, but like very divinely, they both had been like, Oh my gosh, yeah, we look at human design too. What? I was, you know, that opened up my door to be able to talk to more people about it. They sent me to, um, I, I was still having a lot of questions and they were like, listen, we are not the experts, but we know someone who is go talk to her. Um, and so in, so I had like an official session with a human design coach. And it was in there where I quickly went from help me understand this about myself to what does this mean for my business?

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: what can you tell me about how does this impact my business? Um, cause I had been an entrepreneur. I was, this was, this was four years ago.

I was about

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: into owning my own business

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: this marketing stuff. And I. I was like, just [00:17:00] tell me what to do. Can you please? I don't, I'm not a three line. I don't like to figure it out the hard way. I don't like to go

Ruhi: I mean,

Breanna: the stuff.

Ruhi: I sometimes don't either.

Breanna: to do.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: you tell me what to do, I will just go do it.

But nobody, like, I could not figure out what to do or how

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: work or what I like to do. And so I just, I wanted the answers, I wanted the clarity, I wanted like the firm direction, um, and so I, I was just, I was like, what, what does this mean for my business? And as

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: person, as a copywriter, I was like, what does this mean for my content?

What does this mean for my marketing?

Ruhi: Oh, that's so cool.

Breanna: nobody could, but nobody could tell me.

Ruhi: Oh, so you had these questions of like, what can this do for everything? And then you're like, where are my answers? Okay.

Breanna: Right, right.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: And so I asked this question for three and a half years,

Ruhi: Oh my God.

Breanna: kept digging in and just kept digging

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: and every time [00:18:00] like I would find some information, I'd be like, how could this work for marketing?

How could would

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: And even I would find people who talked about human design in business, but it was still very much of a, you know, maybe like how to make decisions or, you know, Like, you know, I'm a generator, so I'm a builder and a doer. You're a projector, so you're going to, like, guide and advise. Okay? But, like, couldn't see it. I could not see it. And then, literally, had, like, another conversation with another human design coach. People, if you don't know something, go find someone who does. And

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: the question. Go, go talk to someone who knows a little bit more or a little bit different from you. And the answers will come eventually,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: and one thing that happened in that hour -long conversation, like, sparked the right moment of, curiosity,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.[00:19:00] 

Breanna: I was like, I'm gonna pull on this thread, and then I pulled on that thread until 4 a .m. I

Ruhi: Oh my goodness. Mm-hmm.

Breanna: Because all of the things started clicking and started piecing together, and I literally, like, I wait, I think I went to bed for a couple of hours, and then

Ruhi: Oh,

Breanna: morning, did

Ruhi: okay.

Breanna: on you? Okay,

Ruhi: Oh, it was just freezing on my side. Sorry. You're

Breanna: no, the next, the next morning, I called one of my friends who I'd been talking about human design with, and I was like, I think I'm onto something. He's a projector. I love me a projector in my life. I'm like, I need to show this to you, I need to run this by you, and I need, I need to test it on you and see that it's legit.

Ruhi: mm-hmm.

Breanna: you know, sometimes you can figure things out for yourself, but that

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: mean that the theory can apply to other people.

Ruhi: Right. Like you didn't know if this was just a you thing, or like, wait, can this be applied to everyone? Like, is this a universe? Ooh. Well, and [00:20:00] I'm sure discovering it for yourself, you're like, if I can do this for me, I can do this for other women, other people. Okay. Mm-hmm. Mm-hmm.

Breanna: working? Or am I just like, is this an emperor has no clothes situation where I'm like twisting

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: to like try to satisfy something but it's not really satisfying it?

So

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: next, the next morning she was like, I'm in, wait, I can meet you for coffee. Let's go.

Ruhi: Oh, nice.

Breanna: And I showed it to her and I ran it through her business and I ran, like I ran her stuff through it.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: And she looked at me and she was like, this is a million dollar idea.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: You have figured it out. Keep going. are huge words from a producer.

Ruhi: Yeah. Oh yeah. Yeah.

Breanna: And that was December. And now here we are. August. It's

Ruhi: That [00:21:00] was December.

Breanna: was December.

Ruhi: I thought you've been doing this for like, that's so funny. I mean, you've been doing your marketing,

Breanna: right. Yeah. Yeah.

Ruhi: but the integration

Breanna: design stuff together. It was the Friday before Christmas, like the perfect, of course, right. Like four days before the holidays, it was the

Ruhi: When,

Breanna: Christmas and

Ruhi: mm-hmm.

Breanna: like came together for me. Um, and I,

Ruhi: That's.

Breanna: had a couple of clients at the time I was able to test it on them and their work in my head. There are so many times like in onboarding I will ask questions like well what, what about you makes you so special, why should people hire you, or what is it that you do for your clients, or like all, I, all of these things that are important for someone who is not in your brain to know so I can write content for you, but also questions that are very hard to answer even

Ruhi: Yeah,

Breanna: in your brain.

Right,

Ruhi: that's why I was laughing. 'cause you'd be like, why should they hire you? Because I'm me.

Breanna: right,

Ruhi: Like that doesn't give you much of anything.

Breanna: [00:22:00] right, cause I'm awesome

Ruhi: Like

Breanna: do, like I don't know how else to tell you this.

Ruhi: how else would ru he be in your life telling you the wisdom? And she has.

Breanna: right.

Ruhi: That's funny.

Breanna: when I was able to just be like, actually, JK, I'm going to look at your

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: chart first, and

Ruhi: I

Breanna: can tell me

Ruhi: that.

Breanna: if this, if

Ruhi: Yeah,

Breanna: and lands, and I had the shortest, easiest onboarding calls ever,

Ruhi: of course. Mm-hmm.

Breanna: done -for -you copy drafts to them, least amount of edits I've ever had. And the most amount of like, you put to words what I've always been trying to figure out how to say, and this

Ruhi: I love that.

Breanna: much, and this feels like I wrote it. Like,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: with these people before, and my first draft.

They were already

Ruhi: [00:23:00] Mm-hmm.

Breanna: no, this feels like I wrote it, but better.

Ruhi: Yeah. No, I love that so much.

Breanna: go. Let's keep

Ruhi: Yeah. That is so amazing to me. Like how cool that that like, and I think the biggest thing here too is like people are always in a hurry. And I actually just, it's funny 'cause I made this. Graphic to share on Instagram, which I haven't, but, um, I guess I will. 'cause I go to share stuff and as soon as I get to the caption, I'm like, no caption, just listen to my wise.

Breanna: Right,

Ruhi: But it pretty much says, your finger, your timeline is as unique as your fingerprint. So I pretty much am letting people know, like literally how you do things when you do them, everything, it is never, not ever going to match anybody else's. I don't care if you're a day off of each other, it's still not, it's like your fingerprint.

Right. So I want to remind people about, like, you looked into this four years ago and you became passionate about it and [00:24:00] you kind of discovered more slowly throughout the, you know, your segments and things like that. Like you discover this and get more into that, and then once you fully got the scope of it, you're like, okay.

What does this mean though, for my business? How can I apply this to help me even more in my world? And also, you froze, so I don't know if you're coming back.

Breanna: know if my videos

Ruhi: the amazing Funness of Real World podcast recording. You're welcome. Audience. See, we don't edit anything because why would we need to?

Breanna: too.

Ruhi: but to also just know, like you took all that time and all of that.

See, I'm gonna talk to her while she's Oh, there she is. Okay.

Breanna: we go. Okay.

Ruhi: I was gonna say that. Where did I freeze? Like what did you last hear? Or where did you hop off?

Breanna: was like the most cliffhanger thing ever because it was what I really want

Ruhi: Oh gosh.

Breanna: is And I'm like,

Ruhi: [00:25:00] Oh my gosh.

Breanna: what do you

Ruhi: I love that. And now we're done. I'm just kidding.

Breanna: You're like,

Ruhi: Just kidding. No, I mean.

Breanna: people to know. And I missed all of it.

Ruhi: Right. That's so funny. I was gonna say, I mean, as I said, so this is gonna be repeated. You can all just, uh, again, like, and it's so funny 'cause I don't edit things because it's more fun. This is like a real conversation.

This is the real world. Like, I'm not, I'm

Breanna: Here's

Ruhi: so tired. I can't get on that tangent yet. Remind me to get on that tangent in a minute. But I was saying that people need to know, like their timeline for doing things, there's just no, it is so unique and so their own that you cannot, whatever you do compared to yourself, to anybody else, like ever, like your timeline is not, it is your fingerprint.

That's like wishing your fingerprints look different. Like that's just silly. That's not what, that's not yours. Right? Your timeline belongs to you. It's sacred to you. No one can, you know, only you have the control to do what with it as you will. But I think, um, because you [00:26:00] took four years and it wasn't up and you learned all about your.

Yourself and your family and everybody, and then you're like, wait, how can I apply this to other areas of my life? Not just living day to day. Okay. What about my business and marketing? What about my client? Like where can I, how will this help me? Because you knew it was there and you dug at it, and I still can't believe you were only doing it since December.

Like, that's so crazy to me. But,

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: I wanted to like switch gears a little and go into, um, like first of all, if y'all are listening to this and wanna work with her, find her on Instagram. I'll, I'll link your Instagram on the show notes for this one.

Breanna: come

Ruhi: at like,

Breanna: Please come say

Ruhi: just,

Breanna: me

Ruhi: and exactly.

Breanna: Hi.

Ruhi: Just be like, Hey.

And also you're just fun to talk to so they'll have a good time. Um. Right. So, but coming into like doing, being an entrepreneur and a mother, which we both understand and also [00:27:00] kind of coming into that unedited approach to like, why I don't edit things. And it's, and at first, like I said in my, you'll hear this once the podcast is out on the eighth, but like I really go into the fact that I thought for a while it was 'cause I do not want to learn technology.

I really feel my brain has very specific amount of, uh, energy as a projector and that is not something I want to fill my brain with. So, but then the more I started like kind of diving deeper into it, the more I realized I am sick and tired of everything being edited and then shown to me. I am tired of pictures of women being edited and shown to me, which has been since I'm in nineties, born in 89, so like grew up in the nineties.

So you all know like those Photoshop magazines everywhere. I'm tired of people. Um, editing themselves, like physically with, you know, like, I need my looks to be this way. I need to enhance this, I need to decrease this. I need, okay, here's all my makeup because I need to cover up any blemish that [00:28:00] I've ever been born with.

And, um, which makeup is, I always tell people, makeup is for fun. It shouldn't be flawless. Yeah. So I'm like, come on people. And then, um, and I have friends that wear like makeup. I'm not judging that. I'm just so tired of us living in a society that's like,

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: in your natural state of being as much as possible.

And then, so that's how it came about, like with reels or with, um, podcasts even. Like, why can't I say, um, or have a pause or say, so that's super infuriating because how I talk is how I talk and I need people to hear that. Like, I'm not, I don't want to be something I'm not. And I think it just goes into that authenticity in the raw, authentic.

Saying, being unedited. So as a mom and as an entrepreneur and having your own business and stuff like that, do you find that like we were given this picture of what it means to be an entrepreneur or what it means to be a mom or both, and [00:29:00] how did that, like, I guess what I'm asking is how did that influence like you moving forward in your business or just existing day to day?

Because I know sometimes I was comparative at times like, oh, I should only have to work two hours a day and be present with my family and this is the way of life. And then you discover that. Yeah. After they spent a whole year of working 10 hour days to build their business to where they could do that.

Right. Like it

Breanna: right,

Ruhi: in the beginning of how coaches were overnight. All of a sudden I make all this money and I only have to work eight hours. Yeah. You also have a team of three people or five or.

Breanna: Or you spent 12 years getting to that point and building your reputation and building your business to be able to have the success that you're at in two hours a day.

Ruhi: I know, right?

Breanna: that part out of the story, didn't

Ruhi: I, I do love that there are reels out there that's like, my overnight success took me five [00:30:00] years and I'm like, yes, thank you.

Breanna: Uh

Ruhi: overnight success was seven years. Like I love that more real stuff. I think people are craving the authentic side of life. I think we've gotten so into technology and separated from each other that we're like needing community and needing, um, things like that.

But yeah. So how have you balanced, like motherhood, I would say with your entrepreneurial journey?

Breanna: Oh, that's such a interesting question. And it's a good, it's a good one. And it's one where I'm like, Oh, man, that is some reflection. So I've been in this now,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: nine, nine years, nine years or so. And I, um, a couple of things come to mind is one, I probably like five years ago, really, really started digging into more of the limiting beliefs and deconditioning. And, um, now I would say like, oh, I had to unmask some

Ruhi: Oh yeah.

Breanna: like my neuro divergence, my neuro [00:31:00] diversity here. And, um, one of the things that I really had to undo. This limiting belief that I was told as a child was that nobody will love you if you're not perfect. You

Ruhi: Oh.

Breanna: be perfect for people to love you. And so, you know, I'm, I'm a millennial, eldest daughter, late, late life diagnosed. autistic and

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: So very much like that tag program and school and everything.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: the perfectionist tendencies, the people -pleasing tendencies were already there. And then to have like this voice in my childhood telling me like, Oh, well, if you're not perfect, don't bother.

Ruhi: Mm

Breanna: So, hustle culture. Was felt very natural to me.

Ruhi: mm. Mm-hmm.

Breanna: an entrepreneur, especially like five years ago,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: and everything, you know, the people that I was following and looking at were like,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: get up, Oh, [00:32:00] you want these things? And you have to get up at 4 AM and you have to be doing this workout and you have to

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: this long, and then you have to be doing this.

And then you can, like, if you want this success, you have to work your ass off. And, listen, I wasn't afraid of hard work, I wasn't afraid of hustle, but the only thing that got me was a fast -pass burnout.

Ruhi: Oh.

Breanna: rough, and it was so bad, and I didn't understand how I was doing everything they told me to do.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: And not only was I not having the success they said would come out of it, was miserable. I

Ruhi: Gosh. Yeah.

Breanna: miserable. It was awful. I hated it. And I was like, there is, I knew there's got to be a better way. and that, I've tried the whole like, oh, I only work two hours a day.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: I want to work more than two hours a day.

Ruhi: I know.

Breanna: Right? Like, I just, I do. I like what I do.

Ruhi: [00:33:00] Yeah.

Breanna: more than two hours a day. But there's, like, I firmly believe in the both and. There's gotta be

Ruhi: Yes.

Breanna: we can show up and kick ass in our business, but not at the expense of

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: quality relationships with our kids and with our family.

Ruhi: Yeah. I like that you, oh, go ahead. Oh, sorry. I was gonna say, I really liked that you mentioned, um. You're like, okay, get up and do these things and this and that and that. I think what was so bad about that too is people are out here telling you how to do these things, but where are the prerequisites? Like, Hey, get up at 4:00 AM and journal and do this.

But have you come to terms with that shadow that you've been annoying or your motherhood wound or the issues you're having, you know, from that childhood? Like

Breanna: Right,

Ruhi: you Yeah. Like you have to do

Breanna: is not in just doing it.

Ruhi: No.

Breanna: Like, oh, I journaled for 30 minutes today. Why isn't my life better? Well,

Ruhi: Yeah,

Breanna: to sit in it,

Ruhi: yeah. And it,

Breanna: to sit.[00:34:00] 

Ruhi: no, it could be 30 minutes, it could be three hours and you're crying for two of those.

Breanna: Right.

Ruhi: like it's just a journey. And then you were mentioning, um, the burnout and like going into like, oh, how come this is it, but the whole two hours. So me having, um, I always tell people I've never been.

Okay. It's so funny 'cause I've never been officially diagnosed with anything 'cause I refuse. But anyone I've met, including therapist friends, and everyone's like, okay, we know you have a DHD. It's like, thank you. But it's just so, and my little brother does and my, I'm pretty sure my dad and of course my kid.

Yeah, okay, we get it. But it's so funny because um, oh, see as I'm in the middle of thought and it just blew out my, as an example. Oh, okay. So you're saying like two hours a day. Right, because some days I'm not working at all and then the next day I'm like, oh shit, seven hours later I feel good. I'm done working.

Like it's a balance of the ebbing and flowing. Or like, let's say the kids are just, they're [00:35:00] doing their thing today, but then the next day it's like, Hey, let's go swimming. Let's do something together. Like, I just don't, yeah, like two hours a day would actually annoy me because first of all, why do I have to do it every day?

Like

Breanna: That's

Ruhi: not,

Breanna: true. Yes,

Ruhi: but I will say on telegram or voice messages. Uh, work, quote unquote work, which is never feels like work when I'm talking to clients or people. I could do that 10 hours a day.

Breanna: No

Ruhi: Like that's the thing. I could just go sun up to sun out. Like as long as my energy is good, that literally fuels my life, is guiding people and talking to them and just getting to connect with them

Breanna: because

Ruhi: like

Breanna: your chart.

Ruhi: I was gonna say.

Breanna: literally it does. Okay.

Ruhi: And I think coming to terms with that was so funny. 'cause I remember at one point being like, you and my mom, bless her heart, she's, I hope she listens to this 'cause she does listen to my podcast, but I was like, my mom told me a while ago, just have your number on there where you just let people call, just tell people to pay you to talk to you.

And I was like, that's not a thing, [00:36:00] mom. Stop. You know? 'cause I'm like the daughter, right? So I'm like, yeah, yeah, right. Blah, blah, blah. And now it's like, oh my God, I'm gonna get like literally paid so people can talk to me.

Breanna: I remember you told me at one point you were like, I think my dream job would just be to, like, literally have

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: to talk to me, and I

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: them what to do.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: writing back and being like, So why don't you?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: That sounds

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: Let's go!

Ruhi: Yeah. I think there's a thing though too, 'cause like, uh, like as a projector, like you said, we have like, we're guides and advisors and there's a wisdom to things, but it's that unique perspective too, but also being intuitive. On top of that, I'm like, this is why it's easy for me to tell you what's going, or what's happening, or what to do or not to do, or like

Breanna: do 

Ruhi: to dig deeper.

But it was almost like,

Breanna: how it works.

Ruhi: can it be that easy? And I think another misconception is everything should be so hard. Like your passion, like,

Breanna: hard.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: [00:37:00] of like, Are you working hard?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: like innate sense of, Oh, then it has to be hard.

Ruhi: Right, like, this isn't hard enough, so I can't make money doing this, or This isn't hard enough, it's too easy and I love it and I wanna do it all the time, so it must be not what I'm supposed to do. Like, isn't that crazy?

Breanna: is the exact opposite. Because especially for projectors, and there have been some times, as a generator, because I've had some projectors in my life who were like, It should be easier.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: be easier for you. And there's a little bit of, when I hit it, it does.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: like is so smooth. But projectors especially, like, know it's supposed to feel easy for you. Like, like you are just gliding on through, like you are just drifting through it. Probably in part because you don't have that sacral energy to just like go, go, go, go, go. But

Ruhi: more of a natural.

Breanna: literally when it feels easy for you, [00:38:00] that's when you are in alignment. Like that is a sign that like, Oh no, I'm actually doing what I'm supposed to be doing. It's just so backwards and opposite from this cultural, societal, like. You've got to work hard. Work has to be hard.

Ruhi: Right. That's why I'm just,

Breanna: we're telling ourselves all the time? It's

Ruhi: yeah,

Breanna: let it be easy. Let it be easy.

Ruhi: yeah.

Breanna: Why do we have

Ruhi: Well, like,

Breanna: of that?

Ruhi: well, like you mentioned too, it's like if it's, if it's something you're passionate about and everything. Now that's not to say obviously, like for example, motherhood is easy, but there's moments, right? Like,

Breanna: are their moments.

Ruhi: living in your house is easy, but then, okay, you still need to clean the kitchen.

You still have things to do that aren't gonna be like your favorite, right?

Breanna: yeah.

Ruhi: But I also used to think like, and I know so many can relate, I would be like. Okay, this comes easy to me. It must not be special. Like for me, I didn't realize how special it was until I just [00:39:00] got like, and you know this like, so I started validating myself of course, 'cause I'm awesome and I needed to, but, and I needed to also like let go of a lot of things.

But as soon as I did that and I got more aligned, it was so funny because then I started getting the feedback of like, oh my gosh, you just said that and that was so wise. Or you just said this and people need to hear that. And I'm like, all I said was this. Like it was nothing. I wouldn't have thought anything of it because I'm like, is this not common sense?

And they're like, no, because to me it just is. It just, that's who, and that's what I learned. I don't think like other people,

Breanna: Mm -hmm.

Ruhi: which can get frustrating in a world of people. But I also noticed too, I was like, yeah, I love it. 'cause you know, I talked to this person, this friend, and I had a friend once, just be like.

That, uh, my battery would be drained. I could never, and I'm like, really? I thought everybody would want to just get paid to do this, and it's like, Nope,

Breanna: yeah.

Ruhi: they would not. Yeah.

Breanna: Yeah, no, our, [00:40:00] our uniqueness, like, this is why we were all made so different, is because we're, we're needed to be

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: Because there are things you can do, and that, not just that you can do, but you love to do.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: And that you bring to the world, and it makes this world a better place, because we cannot all do those things, we are not all good at those things, but it's so needed.

Right? Like, and so. I think it's this, again, it's this backwards idea of, we, we talked about it earlier, this external validation of how I need, and we look and be like, okay, if, if they're doing it, then that is validating for me to do it too, and instead, I don't even know, like, how to put words to it, it's like a feeling, or like a picture in my brain, or a feeling in my body, but instead it, like, it should be Oh, maybe you can help me with this. Help me put words to it. Because it's, it's more of the, instead of being like, [00:41:00] why are we looking for the validation because other people are doing what we're doing?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: the validation be, how is what I'm doing working with, in partnership, in collaboration, in community?

Ruhi: Ooh. Like a symbiotic.

Breanna: doing.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: you go to put a puzzle piece together, if we had a hundred of the same exact puzzle piece,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: doesn't, that doesn't really

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: picture.

Ruhi: But when we come together and we work in like unison, then yeah,

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: unity for you, man. Unity and diversity, that's what needs to happen, especially now. And that makes so much sense because. Pretty much. Yeah, I get what you're saying. 'cause you're like, if we're not all unique, nothing grows, nothing changes, everything would just stay the same.

Yeah. Like nothing would happen. Our minds wouldn't be expanded. Things wouldn't get built. We'd have no light bulbs.

Breanna: special. This

Ruhi: No.

Breanna: idea of like, Oh. I'm different from [00:42:00] other people should actually

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: that's like, holy fuck. I found it. I found the thing that makes me different from everybody else. This is where I'm special. Instead of being like, Oh, I'm not like other people in this way.

Let me conform.

Ruhi: Well as an Aquarius I've never fit that. Anyway.

Breanna: you, you have, you're like, no,

Ruhi: Yeah. There was no, there was no in elementary or middle or high school or anything like that. Um,

Breanna: I'm a Gemini. I don't know what that means

Ruhi: there you go. It's so funny you said that. 'cause I know so many Geminis and I'm learning that apparently me and Geminis are really good friends.

Breanna: Sweet. I can

Ruhi: I know. I did not even realize how many until I realized all these gem noise I'm talking to.

And I'm like, okay, good to know. But as an Aquarius, I mean, who do we not get along with? Or like, you know, of course. But I think, um, I think too, the beautiful part of all this is that, [00:43:00] and correct me if I'm wrong or you feel differently, but sometimes I'm just like,

Breanna: Um,

Ruhi: human experience.

And obviously the greatest thing, like

Breanna: There's

Ruhi: the, the biggest discoveries we have is like ourselves, right? Discovering ourselves. Understanding ourselves. And like life is hard to understand except that you live it and you're here to experience and then you move on.

Breanna: my channel.

Ruhi: But it's almost like, I like to look at it too, as this is just a journey where.

There's no rule books, playbooks. I mean, there's a little bit of rule books when you fall, like depending on your religion and your followings, of course. But it's not like you need to be a baker and you're gonna go do this. Like you're not assigned things at birth. Right. And it's almost like you're, you get to just discover and live, and then it's just like, okay, and then you're done.

Like, I think people have to let go of this, um, this idea that there's supposed to be something or do something like you're not supposed to do anything. [00:44:00] You're supposed to, like personally as Baha, you're supposed to love and know God and obtain virtues for the next life. But outside of that, I'm not supposed to make this quilt.

I'm not supposed to be an entrepreneur, right? Like I want to be an entrepreneur. I'm drawn to it. I feel aligned with things. It's a lot of like feeling, right. Um, so yeah. So I didn't know if you like, if that's like a thing that everyone feels or goes through or

Breanna: yeah,

Ruhi: as they, yeah.

Breanna: like, because you're human design, like the people who, and I rarely get into like, where's the history, the origin of human design, because quite

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: I don't care that much. I just want to know how I can apply it today.

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: have kind of a different perspective on things anyway. But one of the things that people are like, no, I don't care.

Your human design, it's a collection of like five different systems, but one of them is literally the, it matches the 64 genetic codons in your DNA. [00:45:00] Like they are the same, right? And so there's like this element of like, no, this is you genetically. You're the cellular composition and makeup are some of your characteristics and your personality. are you born to be a lawyer?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: maybe not, but I do think you are, you were born to be

Ruhi: Oh, for sure.

Breanna: the, like. Be best version of you that you were created to be, and to really bring those characteristics and those, those attributes to life. As a mom, that's why I love looking at my kids as human -designed farts, because I, I would, otherwise I would have, like, my own, uh, Conscious or unconscious, like expectations for

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: I want you to be this way, or I want, why aren't you more like this? And so instead, human design helps me. I'm imperfect, right? Like I'm not,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: my own human flaws, but it helps me kind of like clear the slate of my expectations for

Ruhi: [00:46:00] Mm-hmm.

Breanna: go through, okay, well, but who are you created to be?

And how can I help you guide you to best align with who you were created to be? And not my expectation for you.

Ruhi: A hundred percent. Yeah. Like you have to, and I think people have to release that of themselves too, because we have expectations placed on us. Right.

Breanna: Yes.

Ruhi: I should have been a doctor,

Breanna: you. Oh,

Ruhi: but I wanna be, yeah.

Breanna: you're

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: energy. And I really was like looking forward to this call because I've been feeling all over the place. And I'm like, you know what? I'm going to get to chat with Ruby for an hour this morning. And I know that it's going to be so calm and so grounding. But I did not walk into every room as, like, this calm, grounded energy. Like, and that's But for me to say like, oh gosh, I wish I were more like Rui, would be a disservice of who I was created to be.

Ruhi: Right. And it's okay to not be all the things 'cause you have other people to be those [00:47:00] things for you. Like, and I always tell to people, I was like, one person can't be your everything. Right. Including yourself. You are one person. I mean, I do go into like how you should be fulfilling all parts for yourself.

Of course. But like, I like, so no, I completely understand. Like for me, sometimes I need those friends that are like, get up, we're going hiking. And I'm like, okay. And then I'm in nature and I'm like, good thing you dragged me out here. I needed some nature. You know?

Breanna: yeah.

Ruhi: Um, so that's, that's the thing though, is like, I don't want to be, like I said, I was like, this isn't a very organized 'cause I don't want to be, that's not, I don't care like to be that way, but I admire it in other people.

'cause I'm like, for certain things you're gonna need to be organized,

Breanna: yes.

Ruhi: you know? Like, or, or just very um, I have another friend who just has the never ending energy and you know, me as a projector, I'm like, I have some, but when I don't, I don't like, there's nothing. I need to plug into my little battery charger cave.

Right. Like

Breanna: -hmm.

Ruhi: so, but I [00:48:00] love them for that. 'cause I need them to have that. Like I need them to be like that. Right.

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: So you like you said, like, okay, I don't need to be ru he's grounding, calming the like energy. But I just want, I can go to it and I can be present in it and I can use it to have when I need it.

Like that's, I love that so much. 'cause that's again what you were talking about where we're all so unique that when we come together it just makes sense. So That's so true. I think it's just,

Breanna: it.

Ruhi: um, you're actually like the second or third person to tell me that, which is so funny. 'cause I've never in life,

Breanna: listen to it.

Ruhi: never in my life considered myself to be calm or great

Breanna: Well, but does it, it doesn't mean like you're in this like

Ruhi: ura.

Breanna: meditation mode, but there's like,

Ruhi: I have been told my aura is a healing aura. And so people around me just kinda like, and maybe it's a reflection of what you need. Maybe that's what you need. So that's what you end up getting from me. Like, [00:49:00] I don't know, like who knows? Beyond certain things, like sometimes I get real curious about things I don't know.

Which is a lot 'cause we're humans so we don't get to know all the things. But,

Breanna: right.

Ruhi: um, SOCRA, yeah. The more you know, the more you just don't know. So

Breanna: Yeah. Yeah.

Ruhi: I love that though. That is so cool. Yeah. See and I was also told that I do need to listen to things when they come up more than so,

Breanna: especially if more like different people are telling you something and telling

Ruhi: yeah.

Breanna: same thing.

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: who was I working with last night? Just last night. Oh yeah, just last night I was working on something with someone and I have, um, there are so many facets of human design. Like it's

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: easy, like it's one of those things where I probably won't ever know all there is to know about it and I just kind of have to like take it in layers, so.

Um, recently discovered like one particular gate and what it like it [00:50:00] was a key piece that I was missing, um, for myself. And I, it's all about like, um, the material abundance, like how you attract material abundance in, um, Life and

Ruhi: Okay.

Breanna: as business owners, And so, like, making sure that that's a piece that is showing up in the work that you do and the content that you create.

If you were trying to magnetize people to you, you were

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: abundance,

Ruhi: I love them.

Breanna: you know, while you're working on the nervous system regulation and the emotional

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: to hold abundance, you also doing the

Ruhi: Yep.

Breanna: to bring in abundance? And, uh, what's so interesting is Mine was provocation, which, so it's like this like Am I creating the tension?

Am I poking at the bruise to get people to a point of being like, oh shit, you're right, I do need this.

Ruhi: Okay. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Breanna: And again, if we go back to like my upbringing, my past, my history is [00:51:00] very much of like, are you the nice girl? Are you people pleasing?

Ruhi: Not poking the bear.

Breanna: much of, yeah, how much of my life have I been told, like you, you've said this about yourself too, like, like, how can you be smaller?

How can you be quieter? How can you be gentler? How can you be quieter? And the thing is, is like, looking at my human design chart, I see, actually, I'm meant to provoke. thing, this, like, I love me some Wicked, so, and I love, my brain works on, like, movie, movie quotes and song

Ruhi: Oh yeah.

Breanna: so that song, like, this weird flirt I've tried to suppress and hide is a talent.

That

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: help me, like, get to my abundance, right? Like, oh, wait, I have been trying to quiet the very thing that is going to, that I'm blocking the thing I say I'm after. And so knowing this, I, like, gives me that permission to let's go for, let's be a little bit more provocative. But

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: I was working with some, all that to say, like, I was working with someone [00:52:00] last night, and, um, she's prepping for this big event, and she's like, I have a very short amount of space to put on this card, I want to, like, really get people's attention so that they take action in the way I want them to. And I was like, well, then let's look at your, it's the Jupiter Gate, let's look at your Jupiter Gate and see what that says. And so I put it together for her, and I sent it back to her, and I was like, let me know what lands, let me know what resonates, um, and how this feels for you. And she came back and she was like, uh, literally I just had someone say this exact phrase to me. So,

Ruhi: That's crazy.

Breanna: And she didn't think it was odd because she's, um, she fully recognizes it for

Ruhi: She's woo woo. She knows the

Breanna: yeah.

Ruhi: Yeah. Yeah,

Breanna: it's like, it's more, it's more than one person, especially people who are unrelated and not connected to each other,

Ruhi: yeah,

Breanna: you the same thing. Listen up.

Ruhi: yeah. I really need to do that more, but also [00:53:00] I.

Breanna: story to tell you that.

Ruhi: No, that was great. That was actually really, 'cause now I'm just like, wait, what is mine? Maybe I'm supposed to not poke bears. Whoops. No, I'm just kidding. Maybe I'm poking too many. Um, I do poke my husband though, and he's like a giant bear, so, um, and he gives me money, so There you go.

I'm just kidding. There's my abundance.

Breanna: Yeah.

Ruhi: love that though. 'cause I didn't even know that

Breanna: Do

Ruhi: that was

Breanna: want to know yours?

Ruhi: Oh my gosh, yes.

Breanna: mean, this is like two seconds of me looking it up. So, like, there's more to it here.

Ruhi: Well, yeah.

Breanna: But yours is being a rebel with a cause.

Ruhi: So being Aquarius,

Breanna: primary action is to make a contribution in the world by being your most authentic self. I

Ruhi: my god. You know, my asses said that. I know because I have. I'm freaking out. Okay, so first of all, as soon as you said the rebellion with the whatever, I was like, okay, that's literally what a vicarious is. [00:54:00] And James Dean, I'm pretty sure it wasn't that a movie. And then, and then you're like,

Breanna: And empowering others to do the same.

Ruhi: that is so funny because I've said that.

I was like, I literally, I think the only way I could lead is just being myself and showing other women they could do that too. And then you're just gotta,

Breanna: the more affirmation, really, to do the thing where people just pay you to talk to them.

Ruhi: this is crazy because I'm

Breanna: in my opinion, you

Ruhi: crazy.

Breanna: another reason to do it, but like, let's just keep

Ruhi: I know.

Breanna: on. Let's just keep piling on the validation

Ruhi: I was gonna say,

Breanna: that

Ruhi: didn't need a reason.

Breanna: do.

Ruhi: But it's funny 'cause it already existed. It's just like, Hey, by the way, it's this and it's, this is what I was talking about when you do human design. 'cause I've had my chart pulled by other people a long time ago before we met.

You know, I would never have done it like

Breanna: yeah.

Ruhi: but there was, um, I would read it and I'd be like, okay, some of this is blanketed makes sense for me, right? Like, as soon as I found out I was a projector and I couldn't go, go, go, because I used to for [00:55:00] years,

Breanna: right.

Ruhi: can't I hustle and go, go, go, like, like another friend of mine or someone else?

And then I discovered the projector aspect. I'm like, oh, sweet baby Jesus. Thank God. Like, I was so thankful that there was something to be like, Hey, because how? Because I'd be like, oh, my energy's up. And then for a month or two I'm like. Chilling a little bit lower, but then for like three months I'll be like getting into it.

And um, and I thought it was me. I was like, dang, what is wrong with me? You know? But then I had my chart and that one little thing where they're like, your energy ebb and flows. That's it. It was like the most generic projector thing you could read. And it like changed my life because I was like, I, I get, it gave me permission to be that way before I gave my per myself permission to be that way,

Breanna: Yep.

Ruhi: But this is funny, 'cause now every time we get deep into some shit, I'm like, okay, I've either said that or already heard. Like, it's almost like, yeah, we know it's human design. Ha ha. You just didn't even know it was mapped out like this.

Breanna: I have [00:56:00] definitely found when I work with people, there's almost always this element of like, Oh yeah, I've been doing that. Or, Oh yeah, I know that. Oh yeah, I have felt that.

Ruhi: Yeah. Yeah. I.

Breanna: love about this is that it tells you like what it affirms, what to keep focusing on or

Ruhi: Yes.

Breanna: to crank up the volume on or what to do more of.

Because the reality is if like all of the options in the world are neutral in and of themselves,

Ruhi: Yeah, yeah, yeah. I do that.

Breanna: like what's best for you versus what's actually not great for you,

Ruhi: Right.

Breanna: it's, it's, it's almost like we are, we are It's all a recipe. There

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: thousand infinite amounts of ingredients that you can use to make anything.

Ruhi: That's true.

Breanna: you know, if you put too much, like, I want a lot of salt in my pasta, but I don't want as much salt in my cake.

Ruhi: Right.

Breanna: Salt in and of [00:57:00] itself is great,

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: are you doing with it, and what is the outcome you're trying to

Ruhi: I love that.

Breanna: And that can really impact, like, is it good for you or not?

Ruhi: Mm-hmm. Well, I love that too, because it's like, on top of that, what are you like as the first part of whatev what you just said, just made me think too,

Breanna: Yeah,

Ruhi: in what way are we even limiting ourselves or like, in what way am I not delusional enough? Like I'm doing this 30 day delusional testing, which I'll have an update for that.

'cause yesterday was day three and I'm pretty, four things popped off. Like,

Breanna: Yeah, yeah.

Ruhi: and then like you talked about our nervous system and things having to regulate and go with the expansion. So that was fun. Anyway, so yesterday was a doozy, but it's like, oh my gosh. Yeah. It's just like the, the ability to be not delusional, but I think we have to tell ourselves, it's delusional to give ourselves permission to go after things that aren't normal in our limiting beliefs and in our mind.

Right.

Breanna: yeah.

Ruhi: Like, [00:58:00] I should be delusional about this, but really it's just me seeing that's not delusional. You were awesome at that. It's about time you did it, but to you it could be like, oh, I feel delusional, and I'm like, no, I see it. Like,

Breanna: Yeah,

Ruhi: going.

Breanna: a whole lifetime of conditioning or limiting beliefs or like this, you know, the neurons in my brain have created certain pathways that make it feel like to me in my brain and in my body like that. Is a little dilulu and

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: you. And so, yeah, I love this so

Ruhi: Delusion.

Breanna: because it's very much of a, whether it's permission giving or it's just like the self -awareness like we talked earlier about being you first.

Ruhi: Yes.

Breanna: instead of trying to meet all these expectations or beliefs or conforming to everything we perceive around us. Is sometimes. We put projections from other people onto us that aren't even, like,

Ruhi: Yes. Yep.

Breanna: Well,

Ruhi: our [00:59:00] brain.

Breanna: wanted me to be this way, and it's like,

Ruhi: Yeah,

Breanna: never said that, actually.

Ruhi: I know.

Breanna: damn

Ruhi: you were mad at me. No, thanks for making stuff up.

Breanna: right? Right? And so, like, even those, sometimes those expectations and kind of, like, conforming beliefs in and of itself are projections and not real. And

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: is, like, Okay, but what's real for me? And let me just focus there.

Ruhi: Yep. I love that so much because it's, yeah, that's so true. I love it because we do, and then I think this is, again, like you have the self-awareness and you're going within yourself, but again, this is where other people in your circle help. Like even if it's not a mentor you pay for, even if it's just a friend, like you said, you've had projectors around you that were like, girl, go after that, or

Breanna: -huh.

Ruhi: Other people can see what you can't. Like you said, your neuropathways developed this way, mine didn't. I see it go, you know, like do it. And I [01:00:00] think that's where people, and I've always been the biggest believer of people should not be alone. It's isolation is not normal. We need each other. Um, I think traverses are just energetically off.

I think everyone can be an either or or an extrovert. And I don't mean energetically off like something's wrong. I mean, they're not introverts when it's e energetically a match for them, right.

Breanna: Well,

Ruhi: Because

Breanna: I love the one -on -one.

Ruhi: yeah.

Breanna: the one -on -one over, cause I will feel, I can, I can feel so alone in a stadium full of 10 ,000 people.

Ruhi: Yes. I think that's,

Breanna: that one -on -one, like this type of stuff, or like a small group, like I'm there all day long,

Ruhi: yeah, it's a safe.

Breanna: can go and go and go, but like a big room of people, I'm a, I'm a hard pass on

Ruhi: Right. And so I really, that's why I think like introvert, like people who think they're introverts or identify with being an introvert, it's like, I think you are just more sacred with your energy and more careful and [01:01:00] more sensitive, right? Like sensitive to that energetic exchange. So I don't, I think introvert sometimes does disservice 'cause it makes people sound like, oh, you go hide in a corner and you won't talk to anybody.

When really it's like

Breanna: So,

Ruhi: you could just be so empathetic and so big on people's energy that you're like, whoa, I can't handle this. It's not intimate enough. It's like too many people and it's too shallow because I know for me, I don't

Breanna: Thank you

Ruhi: Yeah. And so I think that's why I also have so many introvert friends and I see this in them.

'cause I'm like, you're not an introvert with me. And they're like, you're just weird ruhi. Don't talk. Don't even, because

Breanna: more

Ruhi: I,

Breanna: more than like the energy is draining, the bullshit is draining.

Ruhi: yeah, yeah.

Breanna: I can't.

Ruhi: No.

Breanna: I, I met you two seconds ago and you want to go deep on what is the meaning of life, or why are you the way you are, and like parenting is hard, and how can we support each other as women? I'm there. I don't

Ruhi: Yep.

Breanna: to know your name, frankly,

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: let's go.

Ruhi: Yeah,[01:02:00] 

Breanna: all of the like, just

Ruhi: I know.

Breanna: level

Ruhi: could sense the inauthenticity too.

Breanna: out. no, I, my, my energy is too precious. I'm,

Ruhi: Yeah,

Breanna: I'm not good at that.

Ruhi: because I know, I know like for for introverts too, when that happens, they're like, I can't be around this people, or I need to come into myself, or I need to, whatever. And I was like, I don't think so. I think when you're around the right people and the right energy, you're just like. And then, anyway, I hope that changes the, um, the language around it because I'm like, I think I'm an extrovert, but here's what actually happens.

After doing some things, like, I like to be alone in my room for an hour or like 15 minutes, or when I have a whole day of parenting and motherhood, I need to recharge and like go take a bath for 20 minutes or whatever. I can't last 20 minutes 'cause I make it too hot and I die. But, um, but I think, and so honestly it's just so funny 'cause it's like, yeah, but when you're out [01:03:00] there and people give you energy and that's your extrovert.

And I'm like, but I also give introverts energy 'cause they found it in the right place. Right? Like they've, I think anyone, because I'm gonna tell you right now, if I'm in certain rooms and the vibe or I'm sensing shit or something's going on,

Breanna: powerful thing to do.

Ruhi: I'll be an introvert for that day. I'm like, okay. Like it's just, I think it's a manner of being and not like, oh, this is who you are.

I always tell, um.

Breanna: have any

Ruhi: Yeah, because I always, I have so many introverted well friends, and I'm like,

Breanna: feel

Ruhi: but you're not with me, so I don't like, I do believe that. I was like, are you sure? They're like, yeah, you've kidnapped me, Ru. I'm like, oh, oops. My bad. Um, oh my gosh. I know, right? So, I don't know. I just like left it recording too.

This may never end. Now we're just chatting, so, um,

Breanna: some point because my, I only get so much child

Ruhi: I know, right? I [01:04:00] was gonna say, you, you're on a time limit in the, in the childcare areas, which you made it happen today though. That was kind of cool.

Breanna: We did.

Ruhi: Very resourceful. You're very resourceful.

Breanna: Right. Well, that's kind of like what we do. Mom's and business is like we figure it out and sometimes that means, you know, we get interrupted or something like going back to the conversation of what's it look like to be a mom and business and what I so appreciate about you and like, especially knowing now to your Jupiter data is like, how do we be authentic to you and give permission for other people to be the same?

I think I was coming up in a culture like a entrepreneur, female boss, babe. Culture, at least that's what I was seeing,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: it was like very much people would just only present to the good, and they would not show the real, the messy of what it took to get there, or what was happening off [01:05:00] camera. And so it's so easy to see that and then be like, you look at one small highlight reel and compare it to your whole cutting room floor and

Ruhi: Oh.

Breanna: like, those things are not the same.

It's like, no, literally, they're not the same. You could probably also come up with a highlight reel, but you're not seeing all the other stuff. And so I think that was the hardest part for me. And going back to like, you know, let's show people the whole picture. Let's give the unedited version. Because we all have an unedited version.

Ruhi: I definitely experienced that too, for sure. Like that was very prevalent in the beginning of my like, like the journey of entrepreneurship and like women doing it and mother, and I'm like, okay, why is this so hard? Or like having days where you're like, I'm gonna burn my business to the ground.

Breanna: No, really.

Ruhi: days where I tell people the first couple of years of my entrepreneurial journey, it had nothing to do with, oh, are you making money?

Are you successful? No. It had to do with [01:06:00] me battling myself mentally and emotionally and all my shadow work and all my limiting beliefs. Like it was insane. Like I don't even, I don't even know how I was focusing on creating things or making money when it was like. By the way, before you do this, this is gonna bring up everything in your life and enjoy.

I'm like, what? And now I'm in a space where I went through like probably the, I know. I mean, at the time there have been harder times, of course. But you know, every hard time is a little bit more, 'cause you're growing, so it feels different. But I went through, yes. And I went through some crazy stuff the last two, three years.

And on this side of it, I'm like, oh, now I'm ready. Oh, that was weird. Okay. Oh, this is easy. Oh, I'm having issue. No, I'm not having issues. I'm, oh, am I regulating?

Breanna: just also normalize that a successful business or like a quality relationship with your kid or like

Ruhi: Yes.

Breanna: does not mean equal. Balance is not like 50

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: not a teeter -totter, this idea that only [01:07:00] only good things,

Ruhi: Mm-hmm.

Breanna: means success. Like,

Ruhi: Right.

Breanna: normalize the fact that as women,

Ruhi: Yeah.

Breanna: with a 28 -day hormonal cycle, there

Ruhi: Right.

Breanna: a few days every month where you want to burn your business down.

Ruhi: Yeah. And that's when you don't do anything

Breanna: that's when you shut the computer, that's when you take a walk,

Ruhi: in case anyone's listen.

Breanna: I told five people yesterday, I'm feeling like burning my business down, I need you to tuck me off your ledge.

Ruhi: Yeah. That's when you

Breanna: like, right, like, that is, that is so normal. Can we tell people that like, hey, some days really suck.

Like, hey, some days really suck. Some

Ruhi: Yeah,

Breanna: hard. Sometimes you lose it with your kids no matter how much work you have

Ruhi: yeah,

Breanna: not do that. And can we just say like, that's all part of this too.

Ruhi: yeah. Exactly. That's there. 'cause your happiness isn't the only human emotion. And if it was, that'd be really weird. And really sad. Actually. We wouldn't even know. It'd be sad 'cause we wouldn't have Sad,

Breanna: Right.

Ruhi: but it's [01:08:00] so true because like that's what you see, like, oh, business is just this, like frolicking in the field and I'm just like.

No, it's fighting the dragon at the castle trying to get in. So you don't like die of zombies attacking you? I don't know. Like it's,

Breanna: Like

Ruhi: I'm not saying

Breanna: Right.

Ruhi: people, but like some days it feels like that and some days it is frolicking.

Breanna: many women have given up or felt like a failure, like built those neurons in their brain that they suck because they're going through the same things that everybody else goes through but nobody really talks about,

Ruhi: Ooh, that's so true. Especially the cycle one, because that's what I know. I don't do it. Like if I get to that day, usually in my luteal phase, as soon as I start my period, I'm fine. But there are times where I'm like, the next two to three days, I'm just gonna talk to the people I have. Like I keep up with my conversations.

And then other than that, I'm not touching a computer. I'm not trying to post, I'm not trying to redo my Instagram bio 700 times. I'm not trying to like nitpick and everything. No, that's where I [01:09:00] rest and just chill and exist, you know?

Breanna: Yep.

Ruhi: but I do know we're coming up past an hour. This will definitely be in one part for the podcast, like part one, part two, part three maybe.

'cause I like, I like digestible signs.

Breanna: Yeah. And I

Ruhi: and I know,

Breanna: are like we, we, the way we were talking, I feel like there were good

Ruhi: yeah,

Breanna: like, Oh, this could be a thing. And this one could be a thing.

Ruhi: right. Like we shifted the conversa. Yeah, it was really good. I loved it so much. Of course. I love talking to you anyways, so,

Breanna: know.

Ruhi: so it's like easy.

Breanna: see your face. We talked so much like on voice

Ruhi: I know.

Breanna: Where we are just like that, so it's good. I know nobody else gets to see our faces right now, but it's good for me to see your face, and I really enjoy

Ruhi: I'll probably just be talking to you in voice note later anyway. Um, but, um, but yeah, go have time with the babies. Thank you for making it work. I know we definitely could have rescheduled, but we made it happen and honestly it turned out. Great. Yeah, I loved this conversation. I [01:10:00] love, ugh, I don't know. I love talking to my ladies, so thank you so much.

And um, again, 'cause I'm remembering that this is a podcast episode all of a sudden, and I'm not just talking to you.

Breanna: Yes,

Ruhi: will make sure to have, um, your information in the show notes for all parts. That way people can find you.

Breanna: yes.

Ruhi: I'm just so excited. 'cause they definitely like, they need this. They, if, if anybody is an entrepreneur that listens to my podcast and not just like a cool, awesome person.

Yeah. They need you, they need your circle. Sure. A hundred percent.

Breanna: would love to. I would love to. So I, um. Yeah, thanks for sending them my way. I'm on Instagram at owenumarch, O -W -E -N. It's a fun little play on my last name. Um, owenumarch on, on Instagram or owenumarch .com is my website. Come find me.

Ruhi: I think that's actually why I got, um, why I got your email wrong the first time. 'cause I forgot your last name is Owen, not Owen, your mark. But Owen, it was so funny. I thought [01:11:00] so. Yes, now I definitely know it. Um, but I will go ahead and stop the recording now. And usually I just tell my audience I love them and goodbye and I still do love them and goodbye.