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welcome to am I too loud? The podcast guys welcome. Welcome to am I too loud? The fucking podcast with sophie, aka the motherfucking oddity. I curse a lot. I feel like we're gonna have to bleep half of that intro out.
Speaker 1:Welcome to season two of my to love the y'all. I can't believe we're finally back again. This is my episode 21 of Am I Too Loud? My baby and we took a break and now we're back. Tell a friend to tell a friend. Tell the odd fam to report in. Let me know in the comments if you guys are excited because I'm excited to be back. I am trying really hard not to scream and yell because we got a new mic for the podcast and it's very delicate. If not, I would be screaming my fudging lungs out and throwing this mic away because I can't believe we're finally back. I did not think we're going to be back this soon. I thought we're generally going to be back sometime in the fall. I really was like maybe we're just going to scrap the podcast anyways. And then I just woke up one day and I was like why the fudge did I stop this in the first place? We're gonna get into all of that, but first, because I know you guys are gonna ask yes, he's here, he's everyone's favorite.
Speaker 2:My favorite is here, mr kovu you know what you're waiting to hear. A name I was like is the dog here doll is here.
Speaker 1:Hello, really, season two, and that's how you're gonna start, really no, hello.
Speaker 2:Why are you trying to be cool? I'm not trying to be cool. This is my personality, literally practice, we practice what?
Speaker 1:that's a lie.
Speaker 2:That's not your personality what do you think my personality is?
Speaker 1:don't know your personality, is not that? You literally almost threw me on the floor today? You? Know the difference you also punched my new piercing I kicked, I got a piercing.
Speaker 2:Guys, you kicked me the and you kicked me the lip yeah, so you're not.
Speaker 1:Hello who you trying to be sexy for weird, there's so much to unpack because I remember when the team was like donald's gonna, there's gonna be a reel of sophie being bullied donald for the entire, and we got off to a new start like because't Because you were talking into, you know what's happening right now. What.
Speaker 2:I can hear myself and I sound so good. I don't know like Guys.
Speaker 1:We got a new mic and we got a new setup. And then Donald is really excited about the setup.
Speaker 2:Clearly, I sound so good.
Speaker 1:You sound ridiculous. I'm going to keep you as a producer. You're not gonna talk, you're one of my personalities, and now my personality is gonna take it the vaccine I don't think it was smart for you to give me this, because I want to throw it at you because it's flexible but this is so cool though it is.
Speaker 1:It is. I'm really excited. I'm glad we're back. Um, let's talk about why. Why do you think we stopped season one? Be very honest. This is your time to be honest with the cameras, I think I think it's because we're we got bored, I got bored. You did not get bored.
Speaker 2:Why are you?
Speaker 1:trying to be fake deep. That's not true. No, no, no when I say bored, it's like.
Speaker 2:In fact, we're the type of people like If we love routines right.
Speaker 1:And.
Speaker 2:I feel like we created this routine uh-huh and we fell out of love with the routine I don't think that's true.
Speaker 1:Maybe you need to talk for yourself, because this is news for me. Just ask me. Yeah, I know, but now I'm shocked because we've never discussed this. Why would you say we? You got bored. I don't want to talk from your perspective oh, really, pause, pause.
Speaker 2:I'm not. When I say bored, I don't mean bored like oh, it wasn't fun, but it became a routine, and I think you're very good at looking at a situation, especially when we do something together from outside and be like oh, something wasn't working exactly but I wouldn't say it was boredom.
Speaker 1:I would say that I think you just you thought we had hit the rhythm when we weren't even close to it. Yes, I think that's what it is. So I wouldn't say it's necessarily boredom, but, like, I think we got. So, yeah, I think we got to a point where. So, guys, here's the thing I've been thinking about my too loud since like four years now. I'm like everybody who knew me knew I had wanted a podcast. That name was already there. I just really wanted to start talking, but I would always find an excuse to not do it. And so finally last year I was like you know what? I, I have the funds for this. Now I need to just go ahead and start my podcast. And I did, and it was so well received, yeah. But as time went on, we started looking at everybody else and seeing what they were doing. Like I would compare myself to, like shits and gigs. The Uncaught podcast, madam Joyce. Yeah, those are my babies.
Speaker 1:Those are the three that I could think of, and Anna Chamber, the three that I could think of again anna anna chamberlain is crazy. Emma chamberlain, alex earl I'll compare myself to all these people and like I'll be like, why are we not getting these numbers? And it's because we're not the same you know I mean like and all these people are like.
Speaker 1:I'm fans of right, but I just I will always start comparing myself, which is a good conversation to have down the line about comparison and the thief of joy, but I would compare myself a lot to these people and what I started doing was when we got to the point where we were we're 20 episodes in we still hadn't hit that like buzz, like that Like oh, people are tuned in, waiting for the podcast, people are clamoring for it. Sometimes we're doing well on social media, sometimes we weren't, and we definitely, because I the podcast is not the only thing I do. It was even harder for us to find the passion for it, and I think for me too maybe a little bit misguided of me, but I really was so confident that once I started it, brands and companies would see how good I was at podcasting and want to take over the production of it. So, if you don't know, minds2loud is solely funded by me. I pay for everything. This is my baby Camera equipment to a lot is solely funded by me.
Speaker 1:Um, I pay for everything. This is my baby um, camera equipment, production, all that stuff, and so like it's harder for me to to like justify spending ten thousand dollars, eight thousand dollars a month on a podcast that I'm not seeing any results from, and I know my team told me this every time that I didn't have to spend that much money for quality production. But if anyone knows me, I'm first of all, I'm Nigerian, so already that means I need to be perfect, right? Um, I'm a cancer. Um, I am a perfectionist anyways. So for me, I really just wanted it to be the best of the best. If I was going to spend four years dreaming of this, those four, after those four years, it needed to be the best that I'd ever done. And I came out of the gate swinging. I mean, I was fucking. I need to stop cursing.
Speaker 1:I was in a podcast, on the fucking balcony you know, what I mean, like I had this big idea that I would be the next stephen colbert and john stewart and trevor noah and stuff what you will.
Speaker 1:I know I will, but like I think I I tend to think it would happen so soon, and so all this money is going into this podcast. All this conversation is happening with me and Donald and we're still like we're going and we're growing, but everything else is happening at the same time. So I have Instagram, I have brand deals, I have TikTok, I have my YouTube vlog channel. I have all these things. So the podcast ended up being my priority, but was a priority that was not making me any money and what was the priority? So that was not making me any money. And so I remember when I would have meetings with my team. They're like you can't just record a podcast, Like you need to do more ideas for Instagram, for TikTok, Cause that's where the brand deals and the money comes in.
Speaker 1:And then I was and this is where I'll call you out a bit and I don't think Donald knows this and I think I was depending on each other. So if one person is dying like you're, dying too Like we're not necessarily like constantly.
Speaker 2:I'll say yes but I'll say no Because, like a lot of things you're saying sometimes, like I feel like you have conversations with me without me being there, right?
Speaker 1:Oh, interesting.
Speaker 2:Because some of these things are very new to me. Yeah, right, like what you're talking about.
Speaker 1:You've never heard of this.
Speaker 2:Because I'll always ask you like, even like going in, I'll be like because I'm trying to check right, it's like, oh, how you feeling, how you feeling, and like you're like, oh, you're excited it's going yeah. And I think it's also part, like we've only known each other for two years yeah, so there's a long time and you, pretty much like before you, brought me on. You made a lot of moves.
Speaker 1:I already knew exactly what I wanted, exactly. So those things were happening.
Speaker 2:So at the same time, it's like I'm also like I can't come out out of the gate and be like oh, like I don't know if X, y and Z is going to work. So the last thing I want to do is like tell you but then we've talked about me leaning on your expertise.
Speaker 1:More so here teased, more so. Here's the thing about donald guys he hesitates a lot and you're which is crazy, because I wouldn't necessarily say you're scared of taking risks, but you are like you kind of like stability and you like knowing the outcome, and I think something about social media and content creation is like you can never guess the outcome of this shit like you know, you can't fucking know if this random video you shoot today is going to be the viral video that's going to change your fucking life.
Speaker 1:Like it can take this year, it can take two days, it can take 20 years. You never know. Anyone who's been successful will tell you they don't know. Like if they knew they bought the success. Like no one who's truly done something and done something well, knew when that moment was for them. They just simply did it like quinta wouldn't have done bus fee, thinking she was going to end up doing apple elementary and having it be the success it is.
Speaker 2:You know what I mean. You never know which particular thing too, exactly.
Speaker 1:So I think for us going into this, I generally wanted more of like you pushing your expertise and stuff, and I think we would say like, oh, I want you to tell me more. But I also say that with the asterisk of I don't listen, right, right, like I am a very stubborn person and I like to do exactly what I want, because in my head I've thought things through so much that anything you're going to come say to me, I probably have said it in my head to myself and I've thought about the different outcome.
Speaker 1:So I think towards the end of the podcast, I've said you for season one. We were both burnt out, for sure, but we're also both like looking at each other like what's next right and I think for me, I was getting drawn away from the podcast by my team, not in a bad way, but more in like a this thing isn't making money yet downsize. Don't do all this and like be upset that's not working out and do focus on other things. So I spent the last what two months traveling like I can't imagine having the podcast.
Speaker 1:Maybe I could, but I don't think I was going to be able to do it. Well, can't imagine having the podcast happening at the same time doing all the travels I've been doing and making the moves that I've been making. However, also, it was a mindset thing. I think my mindset has shifted now. Plus, I realized I have so much to learn because as we went, where you smiling?
Speaker 2:because it's a lot of things. Yeah, right, like because I'd also didn't know you were traveling, you had all that so like okay, so also let's talk about it without interrupting after the traveling yeah, I was like ah, it makes sense why you made this decision.
Speaker 1:Yeah, there's no way I tell donald this all the time that my podcast life with donald is so separate from my work life like I'm now slowly bringing you into like the full team, but my team is so they're all so spread out and I'm working now and bringing everyone together, so everybody sort of like knows where everyone's role is and, for example, like I'll be having a conversation about the podcast with donald and then my team and I were having something else about, like instagram and tiktok, but they don't feed into each other.
Speaker 1:There's two very different entities, which is not good because at the end of the day, like I am one person, so even when I was planning all these things, don't didn't know anything was happening. And then I'll be like I can't do, and he'll be looking at me like why? Like no, why can't you do this?
Speaker 1:I'm like bro, because I have 50 deliverables you just just like I was so overwhelmed and I was so exhausted. I kept looking at my bank account and I kept looking at the numbers and I kept looking at like listening to my team.
Speaker 1:I was just like I am, so exhausted yeah and I just wish a production company would take this off my hands. But also now that I watch our old episodes back when we're on the break, I was like we have so much to learn. Yeah, like I think madam joyce has posted over 200 200 episodes like these podcasts. I'm comparing myself to have posted so many episodes. They've been learning as they have. They've been I can't speak. They've been learning as they have been growing and I think I was sort of like jumping the gun in what I thought I should be or where I thought I should be at 21 episodes because this is episode 21 so, even looking at our episode, like, oh, we have so much more to learn and we have so much space to grow with the podcast that it doesn't have to be perfect.
Speaker 1:And that was the whole point of am I too loud? Right? It's supposed to be like the space for everyone who's listening and watching. To excuse me, I just belched. It's supposed to be a space for all of us to just like, simply enjoy life and not be perfect. Yeah, so this season two is simply us existing as sophie and donald, or as the oddity and donald, or as the oddity and a random creative. See what I did there. We're like, we're going to be exploring so many nuances to like our opinions, our thoughts, our experiences, reacting to a lot of your dilemmas, talking about trending topics, just checking in with each other every single week about our loudest, boldest, craziest opinions, and we'll just be chit-chatting.
Speaker 1:I think this is what I want that this podcast to be, and I could. I could see that now because I went out. I think over the past couple of weeks I've been going out more. Yeah, I've met. They don't say they know me from TikTok. They're telling me oh, my God, I love you and don't know your podcast. What yeah On my podcast. Like you guys know about the podcast, I didn't know anyone listened, but people are out there listening.
Speaker 2:People for me with business, like I would have clients come to the call and be like, oh, where did you find me? And be like, oh, the podcast. I'm like, what do you mean? What do you?
Speaker 1:mean the podcast putting that shit.
Speaker 2:I had a friend who was like, oh, like, she listens to this podcast called am I too loud? And she's like she heard my like, my voice. And she's like, oh, my god, she didn't know, like the donald in the podcast with me don't.
Speaker 1:It is guys? No, you're really special, donald, so thank you for being a part of my podcast. Damn, do you guys hear that?
Speaker 2:clip this, clip it, cut it because I want to take this.
Speaker 1:Can you put this part at the end of me cursing him out every five seconds? No, but, but you said something to do that I want people to hear okay when I, when you said I was happy, or when you know I'm happy, what did you say? Whoa when I was oh, when like you're aggressive. Yeah, donald was like. He knows, I'm in a good mood when I'm aggressive, when I'm like punching or beating or cursing because I'm such an I'm aggressive, I'm gonna this is what I want to say.
Speaker 2:I am, I think, like.
Speaker 1:I am an aggressive lover.
Speaker 2:I. I think I want to say like one I don't think I've ever told you this. I think I have.
Speaker 1:Ew, don't say anything.
Speaker 2:No, no, for real though, because I think I don't know, is it going to be emotional? Yeah, I'm extremely proud of you. No, no, no, no, pause, pause, let me say it. Let me say it.
Speaker 1:No, I'm extremely proud of you. I am because I swear you should hear my heart beating. I know I think for the past so much two years.
Speaker 2:Wow, for the past two years, like I think, I've watched you, like you've you've changed. I'm sure you've changed everyone's lives, right?
Speaker 1:anyone who I don't like this. I no, I'm getting somewhere. I'm getting somewhere.
Speaker 2:Okay, right, I think it's important, because it's important to know that, like the people that are in your life and the people that watch you actually like are going on that journey with you, and like they might not see every single like cause, I feel like you're always putting positivity out there and I think that's part of the reason why, like when you were feeling don't make me sad, Ew. Like when you were feeling like you see cause, I cause. For me, it's like I'm a business owner, like I'm a creator too. So on the back end, I'm like how does Sophie feel? Like? How does Sophie feel Like, okay, this number is cause.
Speaker 2:I'm feeling it too. I'm looking at it on Lucy's daily, everything. I'm like how does she feel? Okay, this money is going here Cause we're all spending money, like we live in this crazy place. I think when I look at you and I talk to you, like you always like nah, it's not about that, it's good. Lot of people would go past through like the last 20 episodes and like spend everything apart from the episodes, like everything we've ever touched, right. And I think like a time is going to come where you're going to look back and be like damn, that was crazy. Tuition money right like we paid a lot of tuition we paid a lot of tuition for the right things.
Speaker 1:Thank you for saying that that meant a lot to me, I will kill you after the episode. Okay, tell me you are not clipping that clip. If I see that clip, I feel like that's gonna be like a clip where she's like that one friend who can't take a compliment. I can just see the social media post. Right now, guys, I'm gonna be referring to tommy tommy's, our social media manager officianado.
Speaker 2:I feel like manager is so small.
Speaker 1:Guru Guru, I was going to say God, okay, oh, I don't know. I don't know how to continue that so season two. I feel like we started really good. This is. It feels good, I miss this so much.
Speaker 2:Right. Oh let's first person to blink pays. God damn it. Tell me why do I like dares and like competition, like if there's like a reward for something because I'm a middle child yeah, that seems like a logical answer.
Speaker 1:I don't fucking know why you're asking me that kind of question. What do I look like? Nebuchadnezzar? Who is Nebuchadnezzar? Nebuchadnezzar is a king, king in the jungle, jungle. Very, very stupid, stupid, very foolish. Where do I know that from?
Speaker 2:that's so random oh, he's a king of babylon, oh is that in the bible?
Speaker 1:yeah, why am I? Why do I know that I?
Speaker 1:don't know, so random. Anyways, season two, guys, donald likes competition and donald loves me. Yes, it's pretty much the wrap of it, but no, for season two. I think I'm really excited to kick things off like this because I feel like it's going to be a fun season, but I also think I'm going to move away from seasons and just we're going to be uploading every wednesday, anytime between 12 30 est to 4 30 est. Let's just give that kind of breakthrough, and early, ideally early looking at donald to make sure it is early, but um, it's going to be fun.
Speaker 1:I think there's so much we want to catch up on. We might open a patreon, we might not, but I might still have a year to stay. So merch is going to be coming out soon. I think I am going to bet on myself fully. I don't necessarily. I can't speak sometimes and you guys also sidebar. See, I don't finish my thought. Hold on hold that. Put it in your, put it in a note. Okay, that I was gonna say. I forgot what I was gonna say. God damn it, guys.
Speaker 1:I have adhd patreon patreon put it in just put patreon and merch on the side okay, what was I saying before then I have no idea.
Speaker 1:I shouldn't do that so my biggest issue, I've been told, is I don't finish my sentences, especially on the podcast. Whenever I try to cut clips for the podcast, I don't know how to communicate without finishing my sentences, especially even when I'm talking to donald, because me and Donald are so in sync that I know exactly what he's about to say. So I either also interrupt him by finishing his sentence for him, or he's talking and I've already responded to his conversation and I continue on and move on to something else.
Speaker 1:So we're learning as we go for season two that I'm going to try to pace myself. Let Donald speak, and if I don't, don't know, if I don't let you speak, say ah, or something okay.
Speaker 2:Do you think podcasting is hard?
Speaker 1:yes, oh, absolutely like yapping for this long I don't even know how we're doing it but also like making sure we're entertaining people at the same time. I think is really hard. See also, you know you just moved the conversation to something else, because how do we get support?
Speaker 1:I think what happens is sometimes when someone is talking you start thinking it starts to fade out and I'm like, ah, I wonder so I am learning, see, also, I interrupted you because I knew exactly where you were going with that well I need to say it's not a good thing.
Speaker 2:That will like people who do that, because some people wait to continue.
Speaker 1:The next yeah I think it's because we are entertainers like I never want a lull in the conversation, right, but at the same time, I think it's okay to have that law right also. I've been listening to trevor noah's podcast, though, and trevor is just like me. Trevor also interrupts people, yeah, so if trevor noah can do, I can do it too.
Speaker 2:That's crazy well, I hope you guys can follow. We just went through like 10 different.
Speaker 1:I'm telling you it's so hard to cut clips from us talking but, there's no other, first of all, yeah, this is episode title adhd, adhd and me guys, I don't think there's any podcast like what we have here, and I can say that on my mom yeah, she's not dead.
Speaker 1:Wow, oh my god, bro, on my dad, he's dead. I can say that on my father's life, like I don't think there's any podcast like ours, like even listening to our banta, and like the way we connect and we talk is I think it's so raw and so authentic and so us that I'm just really grateful to like have this space with you. Um, I don't know why, I randomly just said that, but I just threw that out there. Where are we in?
Speaker 1:our feelings today? I don't know. I don't like it. Let's move on, fuck you. Anyways, let's do a quick catch-up, because this episode is just gonna be us catching up on what you've missed in our lives and also our hot topics and our crazy opinions about everything else happening in the world. One thing you've missed, guys, is today. Literally a few hours ago, I got my ears pierced. I got my helix and my middle lobe pierced and it still hurts like a B-I-T-C-H. So I'm in a lot of pain. My ears are throbbing. So if you feel or see some redness in my ear, that's why me and donald ran a marathon. I ran a half marathon and he ran a full marathon. Tell me everything you're feeling.
Speaker 1:So can I say something about donald running his first marathon. Okay, guys, donald is the most competitive asshole I've ever met in my life, like especially don't. I don't think donald understands being a woman and a man. And now let's talk about it real quick, because there's nuance to that right masculinity and femininity and the nuance of like. What a masculine and feminine traits are men stronger than women or men equal to women? I hold the perspective that our bodies are very different, not necessarily our minds or our brains, even though I think are different in different ways. I say all that very nuanced. It's not black and white. I think it's very gray because when Donald first told me about he was going to run a marathon, I was like, oh, I'm definitely going to run a marathon too and I can definitely do it.
Speaker 1:And so I was. I ended up being the first person to run a marathon and donald is like competitive, so donald would. When I first started, I would be like don't know, I can't run within five minutes or a minute. And don't know, don't be like, yes, you can, you can't be. I'm like don't know, like I'm a girl, I'm just a girl, I can't do that. Like leave me alone. And he would always make it seem like, yes, I could, and that was fine, cause I ended up running and I killed it.
Speaker 1:Donald's turn comes in my head. I was like I kept trying to tell him that a marathon isn't necessarily a strength race, it's a mind race. So that's why it's so different for men and women in that race, specifically because body composition, bodies, all of that doesn't really matter in that race. It's all about your mind. You can be the fittest, strongest any man or woman in the world. Running a marathon is is such a different feat. People who can run, it's all a mind game you have to have the mindset for it, that's why the men and women races when they say the winners it's such a close amount of time.
Speaker 1:It's never necessarily about the fact that it's a man winning or woman winning, it's simply just a thing of the mind, right? So donald runs his race. How did it go, donald? I will say I called all the certain mile mark and I've never seen donald so defeated in my entire life. Donald felt like I think in his head he was like how the fuck are all these tiny ass people running past me? And these girls are running, and sophie ran this shit and she didn't tell me this thing was hard. And I remember I said I think it's hard, but instead I think he kept thinking no, she just didn't train well enough, this can't be that hard, right, donald? How was the marathon?
Speaker 2:it was hard yeah, I saw it was. It was probably the hardest thing I've ever done. I remember, you know, completing the first half marathon and you know we went past the finish line right and I saw you finish so a marathon is 26.2 miles or 42 kilometers which is typically, on the average, you run a marathon for about three to six hours, so you're running steady for three to six hours.
Speaker 1:That's the context, okay, and then, but half is 13.1 yeah, half is 13.1, so that's about two to four hours right and on that day. So if you ran a half, yes, I was not doing a full unless I was getting a gold medal.
Speaker 2:After I passed that half I think like I've run a lot you do, and when I got to the 15th mile I felt something.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:I felt my muscle and like my calf like like tighten up a bit and I was like, oh, what's going on, that's interesting. And then I go to 18 and I physically couldn't do it anymore.
Speaker 2:You couldn't and I couldn't believe you because I'm just like you've done this before, I've done like I've. This is this is easy, like it's running, but like my body was like no, but I would say, just to make the long story short, the fact that I was alone, I think like that moment changed my life because it made me slow down. Right, I slowed down and I was like, if I'm gonna finish this, I need to plan. So I slowed down, walked a little bit and I just started running, but not in the same way I was running before. I had to change my entire like way I was running to accommodate for the pain that I was feeling. And that's how I was able to get through to the end. And like I would not recommend anyone to run a marathon, but really I wouldn't, okay, but I would tell you that if you ran a marathon, it would be the most insane, unreal. It's the best thing you ever do.
Speaker 1:I feel unstoppable, yeah I think like the marathon changed my life like even like running that half.
Speaker 1:I remember mile one to three. It's such a mile like a mind game. Yeah, we start. First of all. We were late to the starting point for the marathon day so I was already like why the fudge? Am I doing this again? Like, first of all, donald can run this by himself. I will cheer him on. I don't want to do this.
Speaker 1:And I was so close every time and I just told myself, if I got to this end of the mile, I'll think about it, I'll think about stopping and I'll see end of two miles, end of three miles into four miles. Before you know, I was like at seven. I was like, okay, if I can do seven, I can do eight. I can do seven, I can do eight. If I can do eight, I'm almost at 10. If I can do 10, I might as well do 13. That was my thinking for the half.
Speaker 1:And I remember like I was with Donald's girlfriend and his sister and when I finished I found them and I was like, oh, how's Donald doing? Because I had finished the race and he was still running and his girlfriend was like he's not doing good, he's to be here anymore and I was like I'm gonna call him, and I called him and just hearing your voice break essentially didn't. It was like oh my god, are you okay? He's like, yeah, but like fuck, I'm like, he's like, so he's hard. I'm like I know. I've been trying to tell you that, no matter how hard you prepare, yeah, race day can go so many different ways and the only thing that matters is you just keep running, like the idea of like nemo, just keep swimming. And I think, even watching you accomplish that, I was so proud of you because, like, I knew how hard you train and I knew how much you beat yourself up for it, but at the same time, like you finished that shit like you did it.
Speaker 1:Your first marathon is over with. Now you can do like 20 million more, but the fact that you push through is a trait that not a lot of people have.
Speaker 1:Yeah, people give up right and again, like, of course, if you're not feeling like it's healthy for you, whatever, you should absolutely always give up. Like, don't kill yourself over something that you shouldn't kill yourself over. But it takes a certain level of a person to be in so much pain. But just be like, as long as I put one foot in front of the other, I'm gonna be fine which is exactly why I really love.
Speaker 2:The thing is like it was, it was hard, it was hard as shit, like it was the hardest, like yeah, mile 20 insane I was like once, when he's always the hardest, I was like. There's a like those. Those are possibilities that I couldn't have finished and that was the scariest thing, because I finished in four hours 58 minutes and when I thought about running the marathon like my first half yeah I was done in like two hours yeah so like running an extra three hours for the second half was like wow, like but remember, I told you, I said at some point it's not even about power anymore, it's just about mind.
Speaker 1:Yeah, because your body will pain, your body doesn't want to pull you through that shit like. There's so many things our bodies don't want to do that we have to do for the body and around me too.
Speaker 2:It's like the people like. It's such an interesting visual because you have people around you giving up, yeah, crying, and it was like a long stretch of a graveyard.
Speaker 2:That was like the entire because we ran the jersey city marathon it was and I was like, okay, if I can make it to the end, I think the fact that I had you guys at the end I was like and one thing about me is like I want to always make sure I make people proud, Cause the last day I don't want to give anyone a reason to not complete something, yeah, but also would have been proud of you regardless.
Speaker 1:I hope you know that.
Speaker 2:I know that yeah.
Speaker 1:But I would have not been proud of myself.
Speaker 2:I would have, but that's the thing. So after the marathon, for three days I couldn't do anything.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you could not right, but seven days later you felt like I could do this shit again I ran a half marathon, you did and you killed it.
Speaker 1:You speeded mcmuffin, I'm telling you, I was running fast and I was like wow, well, you see my issue with you, though can we call you out real quick? So here's the thing I tried to tell Donald Slow and steady also wins the race Right, and I think you doing the half marathon and making sure you were fastest and you killed it was proving to yourself that you can do it. Will you like?
Speaker 2:not to throw it back at you.
Speaker 1:Let me explain. Okay, you can't say yes or no because I'm very sure of this thing it might affect everywhere. I, yeah, and you can't tell me yes or no because I'm very sure of this thing. Because you do that, it manifests everywhere. Okay, I think for me, watching you do that was so great. I also, and it was humbling for me to see you struggle, because I think one of your traits that I've noticed is like you think you know everything. No, in a bad way right, you're very like.
Speaker 1:I know exactly what I'm doing, so you don't tend to want to ask questions with your peers. I think maybe you've been hurt in the past. We might unpack this later yeah maybe you've been hurt.
Speaker 1:So you tend to like you would go to ai or computers or you do your own research and then you come to a conclusion but you don't listen to other people about their thoughts to influence your decision, which is a good and a bad thing, right, because I remember that when I was training I kept telling you, like it's not, it's a long race, it's slow and steady, wins the race. But in your mind you're like, yeah, but I've all, I've done all the research. If chad gbt tells me if I've trained for 16 weeks this exact mileage and this exact thing and do this exactly, I'm going to get this specific outcome, no, right that's not how life works, like so many things can influence that.
Speaker 1:So when you went back to the aft marathon, I was really proud of you that you did that, but I don't think I've told you this too. I was really proud of you that you did that, you did it well, but in my head I was also a bit disappointed. I was like, oh, I wish you got the lesson of maybe you have of it's still okay that it was.
Speaker 1:I was slow at the longer thing and I was not the best at this longer thing, because maybe that's not for me, but I can still do it and train and be the best at that pace right, like I don't have because you're not competing with anyone.
Speaker 2:True, you ran that race fastest, okay no, then what you know, you know what happened I finished the race and the guy that came first finished in an hour.
Speaker 2:So I finished in one, like an hour 58. The guy finished in an hour and I was like, wow, can I run an hour? But but I would say, when I got, when I got to the half marathon, I was like I'm not gonna run fast unless I feel good. And I started running and at mile two I followed the pacers and I looked at them and I was like, oh, like, I feel good yeah and brooklyn was so like that was a broken marathon.
Speaker 2:It was so beautiful. Yeah, I was like I love this yeah and I was going, but I honestly didn't think that. All I knew is I wanted to finish all the two hours yeah and the moment I looked and I saw the two-hour pacer, I was like no, I have to go.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm really proud of you.
Speaker 2:I'm so proud of you through everything I'm happy I didn't run toronto because I was going to go four days later.
Speaker 1:I know it's a great you're just gonna try to prove to yourself. I guess that you could do it and then break your leg, which would not make any sense, because we need, honestly, we don't need your leg, we just need your mouth I don't like that. I'm like. I said that moving on I'm grateful for my legs I am too.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're all grateful for donald's legs. I didn't like that either. Let's move on. Um, okay, guys. Um, let's see what else have you guys missed? Um, I'm working with delta. Yeah, um, I'm working with one of my dream brands this year. That was really exciting. They're doing this really cool production. I don't think, by the time this episode comes out, I don't think it's going to be live yet, but it's going to be live on their YouTube channels and hopefully on planes everywhere. So, if you see my low face on the Delta plane on an ad, yeah, your girl's big, she's doing big things, and that's been such an interesting experience just navigating.
Speaker 1:I'm literally going to Atlanta in a few days to film the final episode for them, and I've been traveling a lot. I've hit five countries this year alone, which I'm really grateful for as well. Many more to come. My goal is to hit 10 countries this year intentionally and we're very much on track to do that. It's also something really big coming up this summer that we're not going to tell you guys yet, but we're going to tell you guys really soon. But I'm also doing really well. Like, mentally, I've been very. The past day or three days have been rough, especially just because I think, with the podcast starting over, with everything going on, with Delta ending, I'm feeling a bit lost on what I want to do. But I realized I can't stop moving and the moment I stop moving is when I start getting in my head. So my goal has been to just not stop moving and prioritizing my routines and my goals and everything like that, and it's been really good so far.
Speaker 2:So it's been a really good year for us, I think.
Speaker 1:I think, yes, yeah right, because we came into this year like really strong we did like I became swinging, like it was like and I felt like there was so much going on in our lives. Yeah, that like it made sense to come into the year the way we did. Yeah, right, like, and just even like working through everything that I went through last year and this year too, 2025 has been a very interesting year, yeah, and it feels like it's been a blur so far and it's gonna be even crazier I think.
Speaker 1:I think I don't remember like donald, I mean, I wasn't gone twice in january, february, like what the hell.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, a lot has happened march I was no home march or february or april, and then it's may. Now, and then my mom's in canada now with my, my family, like I'm supposed to be going there. Work is happening. We stopped the podcast. We're starting it over again. You ran a marathon, I ran a half marathon. I've lost friends. I've gained friends. Um, I've had people come to stay over. You know, I mean like and and and I feel like it's important.
Speaker 2:Okay, there's a lot of personal work going on behind the scenes between both of us.
Speaker 1:Yes, I think we're doing a lot of self work and self growth, like we're doing this thing where we don't scroll on our phones anymore, um, that's been really hard. Yeah, like the I'm, I gave up on this. I started watching youtube because I just couldn't not watch youtube but and every time I get scroll, I give myself 15 minutes if I catch myself going online to like respond to dms it's too small it's too small no, like it's too much, give yourself 15 minutes it goes away so
Speaker 1:quick, so fast like I'd be on the bathroom like wait, it's finished I have to stop this but I, we decided to not scroll for the entire month of may, just to see how it changes our perspective of working and content. It's a game changer. I don't think I've, I've, never, I've not compared myself like I had the met gala recap, which the met gala just happened the way I did not have, because usually when I'm doing recaps like that, I'll go scroll online see what other people are saying and then, oftentimes, without knowing it, it influences your decision. Yeah, I just didn't do that. I just I literally kept my TikTok open, saved the photos posted, saved the photos posted and I got over 10 million impressions on that alone and I was like, oh my God, I am so special by myself. Like, individually, we're so great. We as humans are not meant to be taking in so much of other people's content yeah we're supposed to be create.
Speaker 1:Like if you're interested in being a creator, right, like, because there's certain people who aren't people who enjoy taking things in, they enjoy doing that. Like I wouldn't be where I am today if they're not people who enjoy listening to people talk right, right, like I enjoy podcasts. So I listen to certain people talk too, and I'm learning that it's okay to quiet your mind a bit and just focus on you. So not scrolling has been really great. We started the artist way, the one that doji popularized recently, and this is this book about discovering your creativity. That's been also insane to me. Like the self-work I've been working through, yeah, has been a bit scary. Like I think one of the biggest things I've learned from the artist way is I.
Speaker 1:I am my biggest critic. Yeah, like you guys, I overthink every fucking thing and like this has been something that I've struggled with since time. Yeah, like I go. I snapchat is terrible for this because sacha has memories. Almost every single video of me in some way or form every month is me saying I don't know if I'm doing well enough, I don't know if I'm doing good enough. I don't know if I'm doing this. I don't know if I'm doing that. I'm sorry I'm not doing better.
Speaker 2:I'm so critical of me and myself and I'm a perfectionist I realize that holds me back so much so I'm learning to even like unpack that and just let go and let live one of the things I learned from week three was, you know how, like you have this high of like you're on a good run and then, like you have this rest right where, like your body's resting, being able to tell yourself that like this rest is needed, yes, right, like it's not, because, like I feel guilty when, like I'm not doing anything, yeah, I'm like we need to do something, like something needs to happen and you said something today. Right, it's like and I think this ties back to how season one went it's like at no point did I look at season one. I'm like, wow, this is like thousands of people and all these comments you know, we didn't do that.
Speaker 2:No, like, we celebrated, like because the entire time we're just like what's next, where can we go? And like what you said today was we should figure out. No, like you're learning how to enjoy the moment, the things that like you have right, because there's so much going on, because you get that med galatine, it's like that's easy and you know, when we look at like the audacity reacts, we get all this like we've done so much, so much.
Speaker 2:You know, and yeah, it's like, unfortunately, instant gratification, I think, is our issue but no, I think it's also the ambition you know, it's like we're very ambitious, yeah, and it's like the container that we've built, that we want to occupy, is really big, so it's frustrating, yeah, when we're not, like you know, increasing at the rate, like the volume is not increasing at the rate.
Speaker 1:That we wanted to. I'm thinking about it from timothy shalamet. That's not right, timothy chalamet, when he got the award and he said I want to be one of the greats, I want to be so successful like I. I am meant to do more. I am meant I am not meant to simply exist as me in this moment. I am meant for so much more. I know it in my bones. And so sometimes I feel like, because I know what my potential is, I am pushing myself to the brink of exhaustion, because I'm like, girl, you're not even there yet. Like I, right now, I think I'm at 0.0 percent. It's the hardest thing, it's. I think we're both at like. I think when we talk about a lot, we're like we're not even there.
Speaker 2:It's like every piece of content, work, anything that I do, yeah I hate because I'm like it's not good, it's not good enough. I know there's so much more that I can do better, but I'm just like why didn't we think, why didn't you know?
Speaker 1:well, I want to give us grace, yeah, and I want to give whoever's listening, who's also feeling the way we're feeling, grace, because I feel like our listeners are from all over the world, but specifically, we have nigeria in the us as some of our top like countries, yeah, and if you're nigerian or from america, it's a rat race.
Speaker 1:If you're listening to this, you're going to be thinking of how can I make money, how can I be better, how can I be successful? It's a rat race that we're engaged in and I just want to give us grace all of us who are like high achieving people, who really, really want the best for ourselves, and we feel like maybe we're not there yet. You're on that journey, you're in that mix, you're on that process, you're on the ride, you're in or you're on the yellow brick road. The castle is right there, the wizard of oz is in front of you, like okay, well there was a woman, and you're also alive you're alive and well right, like you're thriving, you're flourishing, you're in that growth stage and last year I kept saying I'm so grateful.
Speaker 1:And I remember my friend was like why do you keep saying you're so grateful, like we know you're grateful. No, no, no, I'm not saying for anybody else I'm saying for me yeah like I need to remind myself every time that I am grateful for the opportunities I am being afforded right now yeah because if I don't say that, then at some point I'm going to forget that I'm supposed to have gratitude for everything happening to me and I never want to forget that.
Speaker 1:At my core, I always want to remember where I started, where I am currently and where I want to go yeah so even right now, I'm grateful that we have the opportunity to do season two again right like I'm grateful that you guys who are coming, who are new listeners I'm grateful you found us.
Speaker 1:I'm grateful for folks who are or been with us, who have been like y'all. When is the next episode? Right? Because we're building something here that I think is so special. Like the dream is in a year or five years. We're in mad skin square garden, sold out arena, me and donald on that stage, guest starring any cash and justin ug. Guest performances by fucking iris star, beyonce, tyla, the weekend scissor oh fucking, I'm just throwing out names right and like we're the biggest black podcasters in the world, all for being ourselves. Now, for a lot of people that could be like how the fudge are you gonna get there?
Speaker 1:I don't know, I'm sure I don't know if we're ever gonna get there. I wonder if this clip is gonna die in the abyss, or I can think about it and say no, this is exactly what's going to happen because I can see it. I can see me at msg, at barclays center. I can see me inspiring so many people and inspiring myself to dream as big as I want to possibly dream, because there's so much potential. It's crazy. There is so much potential in truly being an existing yourself and being vulnerable because, I think this space is exactly what that is.
Speaker 1:Okay, oh my god. This is a really good season starter kickoffer. Clearly, we've missed talking. Yeah, we've missed this shit. I've missed this so much. Guys, I'm so, I'm so, I'm back. I'm so glad we're here. It's so special.
Speaker 1:All right, let's get into some pop culture commentary. Some everything has been happening. The one thing I don't see on the notes we're going to be using my trusty iPad that I really want to talk about, and it's Jalen, when it was happening. When I tell you, it took me so much not to freaking write a think piece about those two. If you're listening to this, let me give you some backstory. Monet McMichael is an incredible TikToker creator, model artist, everything. She blew up on TikTok from being a former nursing student who's currently now one of the biggest influencers and creators.
Speaker 1:Jalen Noble was on Love Island and he and Monet are dating. We followed her journey on going on dates with him. They're now dating. People love to hate people. That's one thing I'm learning about social media and negativity.
Speaker 1:And recently Jalen bought a house, and when he bought the house, it was he bought a house in Austin. It's like a cabin slash vibe house kind of thing and the house is a guest house that resembles like one of those like old plantation houses in america, like slavery slave quarters, essentially. So he talked about one of his first videos was him talking about this is my guest house, this is the plan for it, we're gonna make it into a gym. And the comments there was like oh my god, this looks like slave quarters. And he was responding in the comments, laughing with them. Them Like, yeah, y'all are going to go crazy. Yeah, your ancestors must know this is crazy. But he started talking and doing all of that, right, and he was clearly joking. It's the same way Like if me and Donald were ever doing something and for some reason, someone is like oh yeah, sophie X, y and Z and I'm laughing about it. Like, oh yeah, this is clearly a joke, right? Y'all will definitely know I'm not that kind of person. So that's what I got from his comments.
Speaker 1:Fast forward to Monet getting her house as well and like, talking about the comments, people talking about how he says my house, she says our house. They've been dating for about two, three years now and he posted a gym transformation video and people went crazy talking about how black people should not be owning, how homes that resemble plantations should not be in these spaces. They should talk about these spaces with reverence. And there was a lot of think pieces dragging these two creators, and all I could not stop thinking about is why in God's name do we love to hate each other? Tell me, donald Money. Money Explain.
Speaker 2:TikTok makes money, so people some of these commentators don't make money money.
Speaker 1:Explain tiktok makes money, so people do. Some of these commentators don't make money no, yes, attention but it's like negative. I'm simplifying it, but it's like like you said, right, it's really hard to not talk like well, like why, like?
Speaker 1:I hope to god that I don't have any comments where I've been negative with people and if I do, that was a very terrible time for me if I ever have. That was a very terrible time for me If I ever have that. But I have never thought to fix my hand and write something negative. If I felt like gossiping or being negative, I will text the group chat Right or call my friends to gist them Right.
Speaker 1:I don't imagine a world where we are so comfortable pouring out negativity Like yappa yappa, yappa out negatively like yep, it's so bad you you literally fix your phone to record you talking negatively about someone else. And here's the thing. There's a difference between criticizing someone or giving like feedback, like oh hey, jaylen. Um, I saw your home. This is no negativity to you at all. I think you should do this. Maybe send them a dm. You might not know that they might see, they might do some research themselves.
Speaker 2:That, I think, is a better approach than creating a whole video but it was also like, based off of, like something that wasn't fact wasn't fact for crying out.
Speaker 1:It wasn't true. He comes back and he's like I, my place has no relation to slavery. People are like oh, of course you'll say that. Oh, this definitely, it's fake people. Shut the fuck up. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 2:Guys like he had to hire someone he had.
Speaker 1:It's so mean and monet posted on her snap, on her spam page, where she talked about how exhausting it is, because it's a phenomenon especially within the black community because it's everywhere.
Speaker 1:That's the craziest part, everywhere honestly, it's really in the immigrant, uh community.
Speaker 1:Yeah, no matter what immigrant you are like I have a friend who's korean. We were just talking about this too yeah, where you get to a certain point and it's the crab in a bucket mentality where you feel like you have to fight each other for the little resources that are left. Because how dare you be better than me when I am supposed to be at the same level as you or better, and that, to me, breaks my heart because I can't imagine posting content, being very happy for myself, being a proud black guy or black woman, sharing my wins, and people are questioning oh, of course she took out the black in her bio. Of course she's saying my house when that guy hates her. Get a fucking life. You guys, why are you so mean? Yes, you're mean. You are being mean Because imagine if it was you. I can't imagine a world where I see you walking in the street and I say look at your ugly ass with your ugly house and your tentacles. In person, I will smack the shit out of you like I wish.
Speaker 1:I wish a black mirror episode should come out where, instead of negative opinions, someone appears in front of the person they want to say something negative to and say it to their face. Right, I dare you. I dare these people to go in front of someone and just step in front of them and say some crazy shit but they're not gonna do it twitter warriors finger of warriors yapping, yapping no, no, I think, like twitter is different, much twitter is different because that's just behind your face.
Speaker 1:Your face is on there and it just takes one person to say something for the dog piling to begin, because you all want those views. You cannot be successful by being negative yeah let me repeat that you cannot be successful by being negative.
Speaker 1:It doesn't matter what you do or say right like even me, when I was doing met gala recap, I felt so bad. I couldn't say worst dress, I said not best right, and I even then I felt so bad because I'm like I can't imagine so. Even now I still regret doing it. I'm like, in some way, the folks who are doing this particular thing are opening themselves to criticism too, and I see that with social media too, where it's like, oh yeah, if I post online, I'm opening myself to critique. Was a different critique been saying we're stressed versus I think you deserve to die because you potentially are living on slave quarters. Mind you, there are white people who also live and have weddings, who is?
Speaker 1:weddings exactly on these plantations because, like, who else is supposed to own it? And even if they're owning it and are not represented like I can't speak. Even if they're owning these spaces and not representative of the like, they're not representing what I'm trying to say. Even if they own this thing and they're not hyping it up or like showing reverence to the spirits of the land, the fact that, as a black person, as a black descendant, you have the ability to even buy the land in the first place, your existence is an act of resistance. Your ancestors will be proud of you, regardless.
Speaker 1:We are doing this shit like. That is a black man who can afford to buy his own home? That is a black woman who's able to afford to buy her own home who is finding success on social media. We were in chains and now we're breaking free, owning, podcasting, owning studios, making films, pushing the barriers of things our astros could not dream of, and what we want to do is break ourselves fucking down. Are you kidding me? Some of the biggest bullies on social media are all these creators who all they do is bully each other. It's terrifying, why? Why? The negativity within our own community. And yes, it's okay, fenita, it's okay to criticize, but the idea that you want to bring someone down because, oh, they deserve to be canceled Shut the fuck up. I'm so sorry.
Speaker 1:Clearly I'm so passionate about this. I wish, like it's so very little of us who happen to break past the barrier to go to the top, and even then we claw at those people at the top to bring them back down to earth. I've never seen anything like it, and we're such a small population. It terrifies me that everybody else is going to win while we keep losing because we can't fucking see what we're supposed to be doing. We can't see past our own bullshit. So shout out to Jalen and Monet. Congrats to Jalen for having his beautiful home. Congrats to Monet for killing it. You deserve the very best. No matter what, keep fucking. Keep your head up, keep swimming. Ignore the hate. They're always going to hate. There's nothing you can do about it. I am just really proud of you guys. Your existence is always a form of resistance, no matter what they say. Let me let you know that Next pop I was, so I'm so passionate about that.
Speaker 2:Hashtag your existence is a form of resistance.
Speaker 1:It really is Okay. Moving on, wow, we have a new pope and he's an american pope. How do we feel about that? I'm not catholic so I know nothing about the process. It's from chicago chai town, is that right?
Speaker 2:yeah, america, is that good for vatican city?
Speaker 1:I think I feel like the beauty of the pope is I think americans tend to make everything about americans, but for the most part, I don't know where the last pope was from. Oh, I think oh argentina I don't know, but argentinians would know. But the beauty of the idea is like when the pope becomes a pope, he sheds his past life.
Speaker 2:Why did they have to see it was american?
Speaker 1:because americans will american every time. Americans will american every time, especially because he's also a pope. That stands against what the current administration is doing right so it makes sense that they're like oh my god, we have our first american pope. Also, he's the first american pope ever, which is, I think, very symbolic, and I'm interested to see where the catholic church goes, because also the world is becoming very um hateful well, argentina, argentina, that's good the world is becoming like.
Speaker 1:I think we had like a solid eight to ten years where everybody was like, oh diversity, oh inclusion, oh growth, and now everybody's like boo any advancements at all, like we don't want any of this to happen. So I like that. I think it would be interesting to see an english-speaking american pope champion and push back against, like what the current western world is doing, because I think the west is becoming stricter and more conservative. Yeah, and what's so funny to me about conservatism or just people wanting to control other people? It's never worked well for anyone in the past. Yeah, I don't think, but like nothing has ever worked well for anybody wanting to control people.
Speaker 1:Like people have lost their lives, people have suffered because we genuinely just wanted them to not be who they are and I just it's disappointing when I see humans just not respect and love each other and I'm I'm excited to the new, for the new pope. I'm not religious in that way, but everyone seems excited for the new pope, his brother especially. Has been some news about how the pope's brother has been talking about how his brother is the pope, but he's still going to call him brother and I was like that's really cute he monetizes them.
Speaker 2:There we go humanize. Yeah, people are also mad that he didn't speak english. Americans forget that americans they don't.
Speaker 1:The pope does not speak. Yeah, they're like okay, why won't he speak english? Because the pope does not. Even the former pope did not speak english americans love them though.
Speaker 1:Hashtag blue passport, um. Moving on, we talked about this a little bit, but the met gala also just happened. Yeah, I rated them on my tiktok, so don't forget to check out my tiktok for all those rating. Black dandyism was the theme of this year's met gala. It was fun, it was great. I wish more people stepped out in color and did more, and I'm also. I'm so curious to see why people decided to like. It's so interesting. Again, sorry, I say this a lot. What are you looking at? No, I'm good.
Speaker 2:No, but you're looking at something I'm just checking, okay, because I pause, you're supposed to be, I'm also.
Speaker 1:I'm also in charge of looking at this, so no one is the producer as well as the co-host of the podcast, and he tends to.
Speaker 2:He's trying to make sure the cameras are all good at the end of the day he distracts me, because when he's doing that, I'm looking at him like it's something wrong and he's like you have a worried face the entire time.
Speaker 1:Your face is worrisome anyways, guys, but the met gala happened. Um, let's talk about it real quick. First of all, how the met gala works is. There are certain fashion houses that buy chairs. It's a charity event so you raise money?
Speaker 1:I have no idea, okay so you raise money for the mets right the metropolitan museum, because we don't pay to go to the met, it's free, they have these exhibitions and they make money. So this year was they raised the most money and fashion houses buy tables at this gala. You go in, there's performances, it's a fun time, but the idea is the fashion houses dress the people who they're inviting. It's very all-inclusive, very amazing all that stuff. So sometimes celebrities don't necessarily have a choice in their looks, but they also do. There's a hierarchy, essentially Like, the bigger you are, the more you have a relationship with a fashion house you get, the better it looks. So I think most people came looking correct and others did not.
Speaker 1:I want to speak from the Africans who were attended, because I know Brenna, boy, aristar, thames, kabilame and so many other African creators attended, but also this was also the most diverse Megala Do. This was also the most diverse Met Gala, though it was mostly black, but also there was like a lot of like Indian actors there, asian actors who were like incredible too, or Southeast Asians or Eastern Asians, I don't know. I don't want to say Asian, because Indian is Asian. The point is there was a bunch of diverse people there, the Africans at the Met wearing dress in the way I thought they would be dressed is like bolder and like fun and amazing and I was a bit disappointed. But I understand also, like the hierarchy in those situations. Yeah, and everyone played it so safe with the theme that I was a bit frustrated about why everyone was playing it safe and I can see there was a divide online with people saying they did really well and other people saying they could have done better because the theme is black dandism, like congolese inspiration. You know there's so much more.
Speaker 1:Being in a suit is just one thing, but the colorfulness, the boldness, the vibrancy, the intentionality of all of this like so they are pulling up in a white suit pissed me off. Yes, I get it, because she can rock anything and she was going to like the simple route. I think she was trying to be anita baker. I think it was inspired by I think maybe that was megan salian, I can't remember. No, I think meg was josephine baker, right, but either way, I just was. I was disappointed, but also it was fun. It was like, with everything going on in america, this was a fun, like insight into like black expressionism and how amazing black people can be, even through a time of like frustration and anxiety around, like so many laws being passed by the current administration in America specifically. Okay, next thought I like how sometimes it all just looks at me as I keep yapping along no Cause, like I.
Speaker 2:You could explain it, but I still don't understand the Megala.
Speaker 1:Really, I also it's a fashion thing. It's like for fashion heads. I like it because it's fun oh, I like the drama.
Speaker 2:I love the drama. The whole sharkan drama was interesting let's talk about that.
Speaker 1:So you guys keep, uh, fuck me. Tiana taylor and ego went in. Yeah, so uh, tiana and ego interviewed shark khan and if you don't know shark khan, he's a huge, like one of the biggest bollywood stars in the world, and I didn't find anything wrong with the interview well when people, a lot of people were like oh, they felt disrespected because they clearly didn't know who shark khan was.
Speaker 1:I think people sometimes forget that america has centered itself as the powerhouse of media right, and then we have and not because of the numbers, not because the number is just because of america, like america is just a bully, right, it's america.
Speaker 1:They've all. We all know america is like. If you've met any american, the average american is just, they don't care, they don't even travel out of america, right, america is so big that they don't need to. Someone from louisiana might never go to la because la is like the big city is, and they judge them like that's how america is. And then we have bollywood. We have korea. Essentially, I say korea because k-pop is a thing. Korea movies are a thing. We have nollywood, which is the nigerian version of hollywood. Even then, bollywood is inspired by hollywood and nigeria is not. Hollywood is probably by hollywood. So essentially, the entire world tends to look at the west because the west is positioned itself as the sense of power. So institutions like that would say like, oh, why didn't they like show him more respect or prove that they like were listening? And I'm like, because it's america.
Speaker 2:America doesn't care about everybody else america doesn't work with movies america does not work with like the average.
Speaker 1:But nigerian would watch. But like you know, I mean like I think everybody else in the world interacts with everybody else in the world.
Speaker 1:Americans don't necessarily interact with everybody else in what they tell their own stories and their own version, and that's what americans hear every time. It's a beautifully fascinating thing about living in american media because if you're in america you're so blocked out from the rest of the world. I think that's the same thing about like you can argue about any other place in the world, like they might just give you an idea of if you go to europe, for example.
Speaker 1:People think americans are stuck up and annoying they are, but like that's the thing about living in america. You just you get that a lot and they move on. So I think it was just unnecessary uproar, because once you accept that americans can be.
Speaker 2:I think the outrage comes from, like someone who doesn't live in america. They watch the met and they see that interaction and they're wondering why, like first of all, it's janitor and like no.
Speaker 1:But the stylist was the one who said I don't think you guys understand. Like this is one of the biggest stars in the world. He already. He came in with a chip on his shoulder. He was upset because he's, because even shere khan was like I don't know why I'm here but it makes sense, I have to be here because I need to be here he's not even a fashion guy, right? The man did not care to be there, so even his style has been like.
Speaker 2:You guys need to bow down to this man yeah, that's not like unfortunately right like this is not this. No, it's also not a caste system like I feel, like you know, it's like they're gonna react like that like yeah freaking.
Speaker 1:Andrea leone telly was replaced by liza koshy. That's all we need to know about american media. I don't know if you know who that is no, okay where the former entertainment director of vogue, who, like the red carpet correspondent for the met gala, this like incredible fashion icon was replaced by liza koshoshi for numbers, because she had more numbers at that point in her career. Like it's america media, you accept that.
Speaker 1:You move on right anyways. Moving on against some other hot topics, the bt awards is going to be hosting 106 and parks 25th anniversary celebration. Guys, when I heard about this I didn't know it was a thing, and I like that the BET Awards is coming back in America. I think when I was a kid I used to watch 106 and Park on BET. That was like my first intro into black American culture that I really enjoyed. It made me feel very fascinated about everything, so I'm really excited that that is happening. I don't even want to watch the BET Awards. I wasn't planning on it, but now I think I will, because, because I'm like when is it happening? Paying tribute to the show? Oh, what's happening? It's airing June 9th. Ooh, where am I?
Speaker 2:going to be. I'll be on my way back. Hosted by Kevin Hart.
Speaker 1:Kevin Hart. Oh, you guys, I have such a that man. I love Kevin. He's so driven That'll be interesting to actually watch. We're going to stay tuned and we're going to react to the bt awards when they come out, because I'm really curious to see, like, how kevin revives it, because I think that's why kevin is doing it. He also just launched his cartoon on bt.
Speaker 2:So that makes sense, kevin, kevin no little kev little kev.
Speaker 1:I think it's little kev, that's about right. Well, I think that's also why he's he they got him to do it. There's no way because if not, I'm okay. I know he's not done, no one no one before high profile has done the bt awards before like in recent years.
Speaker 2:I wonder who hosted it last year.
Speaker 1:Anyways, moving on again. Oh my god, donald, a hundred men versus one gorilla. We're a bit. We're like three weeks late from this conversation but, I want to talk about it.
Speaker 1:First of all, it's a recession indicator that we're deciding that we want to find out this argument. But also, this is not the first time I've heard this argument like I've heard it before, like this is I feel like every two to three years we come up with this hundred men versus one gorilla. My thing is 10 men cannot fight a sumo wrestler, not to talk about a gorilla. So why in gaza, would we think 100 men you trust? Imagine you throwing donalds and peers like donald to you. Would you charge a gorilla?
Speaker 2:why, if I see the gorilla breaks one person's skull, I'm running away, you know the entire time when people are like oh, one gorilla versus hundred men, I feel like the people that started the trend don't even know what a gorilla is.
Speaker 1:Because, like this is not.
Speaker 2:This is not a monkey, as I'm saying, this is not an orangutan, this is like a gorilla right like his hand can clear 10 people at least, the distance will be like 10 yards if one, if one gorilla should shove donald.
Speaker 1:Donald's own body can shove 10 people. Yes, so already you are down 20, is that?
Speaker 2:statistic is right. No, no, I'm like is that a good thing? No, but you're right though. Yeah, I'm like why?
Speaker 1:and some people are like oh, some people attack do people also understand like I don't think enough people get into physical violent activities? Yeah, because I feel like if more people engaged in fights they will understand how fighting works, right fighting is aggressive guys, you have to be willing to die. Oh, I see no, but it's true though do you ever think I'll get in a fight? No, I swear to you, I would rather die like no that's why I don't, that's why I don't fight.
Speaker 2:I can't fight. When I was in boarding school I used to fight a lot, but I didn't have anything to live for. I'm being serious because it's like I went to an all boys school. So when you're fighting like I have nothing to live for, I'm not thinking about the future, we're going to die but now, now I'm not going to touch you. A hundred, first of all, it means that a hundred men need to agree that, like, nobody will run away, I think they will have to lock a hundred point.
Speaker 1:So, first of all, are they willing to go into the room? That's the one thing. Are they choosing to all fight to the death.
Speaker 2:Is there a prize involved? Is there a prize involved?
Speaker 1:And is it that they are sharing?
Speaker 2:because that's also a different some people will even kill some of the other men exactly.
Speaker 1:Human nature is very difficult. Like they're going to start thinking, oh, because this man is saying this, I'm going to kill 10 of them, first right we've seen squid games, bro. A gorilla is just thinking food anger is this a gorilla like why are you attacking? Is this a squirrel? Have you seen a gorilla's teeth before yo? Have you seen his palm? One palm is bigger than five men's head. Are we mad? Why is the?
Speaker 2:conversation. The gorilla walks with four, that's like thousand right thousand.
Speaker 1:So essentially there's no way a hundred men can take on a gorilla. That's insane um this one. I don't know if you saw it a hundred us people versus a hundred british people yes, okay, so one one thing that someone said I saw yami posted about it, talking about someone from leeds.
Speaker 2:Someone said never pulled it. Someone said that hasn't this already happened?
Speaker 1:the civil war or the british are coming. I was like, I was like, first of all, in america, the amount, the kind of food, the processed food they eat. Yeah, you want to compare that to british beans? Yeah, have you guys seen a chicken from walmart?
Speaker 2:so you say that's a good? Because I think, yes, some girls said.
Speaker 1:Some girls said, steroids alone you need, like she's like 350 year olds from like Chicago.
Speaker 2:She said an old woman, like a 80 year old woman from Arkansas.
Speaker 1:It's like give a Madea uh, what pull up Americans 10 Floridians who fight alligators and crocodiles in the swamp in. Louisiana. Yeah, are you kidding me?
Speaker 2:have you ever seen like? This is from West Virginia yo Yo in the South, Because one time I was in Kansas.
Speaker 1:You're looking at LA LA Erwan people. I was in Kansas one time.
Speaker 2:And in Kansas, like the bars close like 11 pm, right, but like there's something in the South, like where you have the bars, there's always police around.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 2:Motorcycle gangs right the bars. There's always police around right motorcycle gangs right, yeah, like motorcycle gangs, like you're always fighting yeah, I saw these two girls fight one time and I was like have you been to waffle house?
Speaker 1:I was like that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I was like whoa, I don't think the british understand american culture here, you guys use knives yeah, to fight, that's the only thing there's, just like the knives, guns yeah, I'm like they're anything, bro, like those fights the alabama boat brawl alone should tell you that americans have nothing to lose yeah the government is constantly chasing them.
Speaker 1:If you think you have it bad yeah come to america, come to west virginia, go to alabama, go to mississippi you don't even need a hundred you don't need a hundred us people yeah go to detroit, michigan, yeah, the south side of chicago.
Speaker 2:Okay, honestly, I'm just calling out names from no, it's true, but there are places in america that I would not step in florida, yeah go.
Speaker 1:Florida is alone the the state of florida. Go to the state of florida alone yeah you're not gonna come back outside a hundred british people mind you is this hand-to-hand combat, or is this also with weapons, because that's even worse if it's weapons then, like the brits, won't survive no, if it's a weapons, for sure yeah, if it's weapons that you have in your country. Even worse, you won't survive, but because you think the americans are coming with hungry americans gonna say please, honestly, what are we talking about here?
Speaker 1:eat you up, mind you. I'm telling you this with bro the british are not coming let's just relax, yeah all right. Finally, guys, I want to talk about kaisa and streamer university. If you don't know, kaisa is the top biggest streamer in america and is the lighting okay?
Speaker 1:yeah, because it's dark no, yeah, it's good, oh, um, talk about kaisen at becoming the top streamer in the world. He is the top streamer in the world. He opened streamer university. I was so close to actually applying for streamer university because I feel like I really want to stream. There's not enough black girls or black women who stream but he had 96,000 applications. I had a six million, six million applications. Yeah, of what of people? Oh, that's true, because he had he just reviewed 96 000 on his stream that day, or like he had those dumped into his folder.
Speaker 1:Six million people applied to be at kaisen. I don't think you understand. Like when people talk about social media now, like this is the new thing, this is the new wave, like everybody is so hungry and looking for jobs and there's so much opportunity within the space to grow that even seeing that, I was like wow, there's so many people who are hungry and ready and willing to learn and just good luck to everybody who applied. I didn't apply, but for anyone who wants to do social media in general, there's so much opportunity there. Just start, um, just start posting.
Speaker 1:I. I saw a tiktok the other day that was like, oh, everybody keeps saying, um, just start posting. I. I saw a tiktok the other day that was like, oh, everybody keeps saying, start posting, start posting. What does that actually mean? It just means, post like post, what you're passionate about, even if not for the success, for just the fact that you're posting, because you never know where it's going to go. There's so much, there's so many people in the world that you're going to find your success in your little tiny corner, on your big corner.
Speaker 1:You just never know but, yeah, shout out to kaisa for even doing that. That's one of the smartest things that's a good point he's such a smart like player in the game. I think it's the way he moves is very, very smart. I really like it before you conclude well you know, he's building a school in nigeria I did not know that kaisa is building a school in nigeria so he's building a school in makoko I don't know if I like that yes, is that why you're telling me yeah?
Speaker 2:that's why I'm gonna talk about it, because, like I saw the picture um see if I can put it here so here's the thing about stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I can't say that it's poverty porn, right that's. But also there's two folds of the conversation there. I worked in the non-profit space for a really long time and I my goal when I had my master's was I wanted to be in peace and conflict. I wanted to do some of these like UN guided work of giving back to the community, and one of the biggest things that I noticed about those spaces is white saviorism doesn't necessarily have to be from a white person, but also most of the things people do are either performative or they're not necessarily addressing the roots problem of the issue. Right, because in this situation I'm like does the school in makoko make sense? If maybe he puts computers in the school, is he going to put no computers? Is he going to fix the dam? Could he fix the water issues there? Could he give them better?
Speaker 2:homes. The school is on the water.
Speaker 1:You see what I mean. Like it might. What is the main issue on? How does that, in the long term, affect the kids there? For context, makoko is in the slums in nigeria, yeah, right, and there's so many issues going on with those kids. Education, of course, is a big factor, right. So also is hygiene. So also is health. So also is like finding better homes for them, the space in itself.
Speaker 1:Are we revamping the slums? Is it just school? And, of course, like there's probably like he can't do everything, he can't fix everything. But for me, when I see stuff like that, I'm like is this the best approach to a situation of this magnitude? I don't know. So that's why I'm like I don't. I'm know, so that's why I'm like I don't. I'm really that's that's my thoughts on it. At the same time, like it's something good he's trying to do. It's like the same way mr beast like said he was building homes for different people in like different parts of the world. He's giving back water. Or there are people like the un would say they're funding women to make clothes, but if the same women you've been funding for 25 years are still making the same clothes and they're still the same place you had them for the past 25 years? Are they actually growing? Or is this just you feeding your, puff your pockets for another profit or for a tax um rebate?
Speaker 2:okay, so I'm going to give you information okay, give me information, right the school is going to cost 2.4 million dollars that's crazy. Yes, and I'm looking at the video right now. Right, I remember seeing this video and he breaks down the build and the timeline, cost and 2.5 is crazy, 2.5 is crazy 2.4 is crazy.
Speaker 2:So phase one set up 75k 2 to 4 weeks land selected and purchased 500k to 800k a land in nigeria, makoko abu. It doesn't matter where it is looking at this, I'm just afraid of what of the people he's working with, right, because where does land cost five hundred thousand dollars in nigeria?
Speaker 1:you know what I mean?
Speaker 2:yeah, because this is a school. The school has not been.
Speaker 1:This is the land permit and pre-construction seventy five thousand dollars for a place in nigeria? Yeah, in lagos on the island, it depends right it doesn't matter I don't think we have enough information because this was a video like. This is like I mean like from his stream.
Speaker 2:I mean I'm saying like I don't look the forward space to land selected, purchase product 800 000 permits and pre-construction 75 000.
Speaker 1:I think when you see that one was that posted 24 right no, no, it was like two months ago. Yeah, I don't think he would talk more about it, because it can be very messy.
Speaker 2:No, of course, Because he already said this out.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:And I can imagine people seeing this and being like someone said no, somebody's eating good in Nigeria.
Speaker 2:No, someone's eating really good, because this is the that's an absurd setup 75 000, like if you spend 75 000 on setup, you spend 800 000 on the line dollars, that's crazy you spend 75 000 on permits and pre-construction right, and I think it's about 1.5 million dollars on actual construction and then operation. There's no number on it. Yeah, so we haven't even gotten to it, because this is supposed to be a free school. Yeah, how are you spending 2.4 million dollars already?
Speaker 1:that's actually interesting. We're gonna follow that story because I'm really curious to see how it's gonna end. Curious, okay, guys. Yeah, this is a really solid episode. We love you guys very much. Thank you so much for tuning in to.
Speaker 1:Am I still at the podcast? Um, it's gonna be solid season two. Just to let you guys know what is coming up in this next couple of episodes. I'm going to be traveling a lot, which means sometimes you're going to have solo episodes with just me. You might have solo episodes, we might have solo episodes with just me. You're going to have episodes with me and a guest. We're going to start trying to bring guests on the podcast. We're going to have me and Donald have interact with other people. Me and Donald might call in from other places around the world, but the podcast is going to come to you every wednesday for the foreseeable future, until we get to 100 episodes, because all we're going to always do is try our best to be the best we can be, and that would include, like if you guys have any submissions, don't forget to go on our website at myslotcom, at myslotpodcom or myslotcom. Oh my god, I'm choking myslot.
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Speaker 2:Bye, guys yeah, you guys changed my life bye okay dramatic.
Speaker 1:That was crazy that was like what you can't see it's true, though it's so dramatic, I get any calls. Oh, I hate when I open my phone when it wasn't doing a disturbance like silence crickets. Nobody even sent me a snapchat. That's not even fair, really.