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Radical Trust: Cultivating Faith in Self, Others, and Life
In this episode of The World Needs You, we dive deep into the multifaceted nature of trust. We explore what it means to truly trust yourself—listening to your inner voice, honoring your instincts, and building self-confidence through aligned actions. But trust doesn’t end there. We examine how to extend trust to others, navigating relationships with openness and discernment, and explore how trust can create deeper connections and personal freedom.
We also discuss trust in the universe—how to surrender control, embrace the unknown, and find peace in the unfolding of life’s journey. Whether it’s building self-trust, trusting the people around you, or learning to have faith in something bigger than yourself, this episode will leave you reflecting on how to nurture and deepen trust at every level. Tune in to learn how trust shapes who we are, and how we show up for ourselves and each other.
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Speaker 2:Today is all about trust, but before we dive in, let's just go into what is on our? Mind and heart today. What up, hey, what's up, man? Well, today's election day, so that is what it is.
Speaker 1:Do you trust? In the universe and that America is going to be okay, regardless of who is president.
Speaker 2:Yes, I am in a good place this election year and I feel good either way. I think where I'm at currently is just I've learned a long time ago. I feel like, no matter what goes on around us in the world, in this country, whatever is like, focus on where we're at, you know. Focus on being personally excellent at literally everything that we are doing and want to do in life and family and work.
Speaker 1:Where's the hat?
Speaker 2:today, chris has a hat that says oh yeah, well, that's my jam right there, it wasn't personal excellence is the ultimate rebellion.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's a Andy for Sella tagline, so uh, but yeah, I truly believe in that Cause.
Speaker 2:I feel like, if I strive to be the best and I go out into my community, into where I work, into just places around, I get to know local people, I get to you know. One of the things I do is get to know local farmers and we talk about things and conversations that raise us to a new realm and lift us up higher, because we're both encouraging each other to do better. I think that's really the if we can focus on that more in our own communities, like that's, there's power in that, versus just putting so much investment, so much mind, energy and so much of our time into hey, if it goes this way, it goes this way. Yeah, it's important. It's definitely something that is important for us to pay attention to, but I think we can't forget that we got to continue to unite and really start in our communities and focus there. What kind of change are we trying to implement? What kind of positive things are we putting out there for our community to be better?
Speaker 1:Do you think that the divide between the two sides? Do you think that it comes down to a lack of trust?
Speaker 2:Oh, absolutely, yeah, Well, I know we're going to talk about it Fear is fear is the is the killer of trust, so I know we're going to get into that deeper but I do think fear is is one of the big problems there, Right?
Speaker 1:So that's the underlying issue that divides people is trust and fear.
Speaker 2:How?
Speaker 1:about you. So what is on my mind and heart today is that I'm preparing for retreat this weekend and super excited about it, but also have been having dreams like that I sleep in through the retreat, or that I get to the retreat house and none of the beds are made, or anxiety. Any kind of anxious thought is running through my mind, because I want things to be really good and I know they will be, no matter what happens.
Speaker 2:Yeah, do you remember any anxious thoughts you had when you did your retreat in Costa Rica 10 years ago?
Speaker 1:I think that was more chill then. This is a little different because I'm doing a lot of the things, whereas back when we did the retreat in Costa Rica, we just showed up at the resort and everybody took care of us.
Speaker 2:Yeah, but there had to be, I just can't remember.
Speaker 1:I was just curious, I don't remember, that was a while ago, but and then also on my mind and heart, is how I am trusting in my intuition and taking off for the whole month of December, thank the Lord. Yeah, well, taking off for yoga. So I still have two other businesses to run.
Speaker 2:Yes.
Speaker 1:And the kids are off for two weeks.
Speaker 2:We'd like to have you, but.
Speaker 1:I decided and I've never done this. I have been teaching yoga for almost 20 years, have been running Sea Yoga or like some sort of yoga brand where I teach in different locations and whatnot, but I've always kind of kept it going. I've never really taken extensive time off, like I don't even know. I'm sure you remember from times when we were, you know, first dating. I've always taught on the weekends, so, and how often was I like no, we can't go to this place because I need to teach, we can't do anything. You know, I've got to have this yoga class and I've gotten better over the years of like getting classes covered and delegating and, you know, just trying to trust in other people to be able to treat my baby the way that I treat it.
Speaker 2:That was a huge step for you, I think.
Speaker 1:Yes, I was apprehensive, because my fear that comes up is that people will forget about me, people will find a new place to go, I will seem like I'm flaky or not have integrity. It will ruin my consistency, all of these things. But I have to trust that whoever's meant for me will respect the time that I take off and I have to trust that, like you know, I just want this time with my family for December to be present and to not have to worry about like getting classes covered or showing up and just let everyone rest.
Speaker 1:Everyone gets to rest on the weekends in December. So there will be no Saturday or Sunday classes and I'm not even doing any special events. I almost did. I had FOMO over a winter solstice event and I was like, all right, well, this is the one event that I will do and everything else will be canceled. And then we started getting into the planning process of like thinking about places and I was like, nope, don't want to do it, my brain capacity just literally just wants to rest. So I am trusting and leaning into that.
Speaker 2:And you're setting those boundaries and you're building trust within yourself.
Speaker 1:Exactly.
Speaker 2:That's good. Yeah, good job Thanks.
Speaker 1:So I put a little thing out there on Facebook asking people what comes to mind when they think of the word trust, and a few. Well, I got a few responses, and some of them were consistency and honesty, loyalty, not self-serving, self-trust first, integrity and intention. So what does trust mean to you?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I agree with a lot of those.
Speaker 2:To be honest, I uh gosh, I just did that to be honest to be honest, that is a uh, the bullet point in the notes here. But yeah, I think trust does mean to me consistency. It means honoring my commitments. It's for honoring commitments. You know, I think I've learned that it starts from me. So once I start and I build the trust within myself, I then can allow myself to trust others, and it's something that's evolved over time for me. But I mean, when you look at trust, it's like when you say you're going to do something or use our marriage, for example, we've committed to each other. There's immediate trust within that. That it's, you know. It's like when you go out and do something and you know, am I worried about?
Speaker 1:do you trust me?
Speaker 2:yes, I trust you, but you know I, if I didn't trust you I'd have it would be because of fear. It would be because I'm not confident of different things. For whatever reason, I'm worried about things because there's a reason that I don't have that trust.
Speaker 1:Or if I had done something in the past. Exactly I read something where trust is a lack of trust or when someone ruins trust. It's almost like taking a piece of paper and crumbling it up. You can flatten it out, but it's still going to have those lines there and it will never quite be the same right.
Speaker 2:Like Ayana, our middle daughter. She's kind of lied about a couple of things which kids tend to do, but it's like I found myself a couple of times in the past like she says she did something.
Speaker 1:I'm like do it again, cause I don't trust that you're telling yeah, I past like she says she did something.
Speaker 2:I'm like do it again because I don't trust that you're telling, yeah, I'm gonna brush your teeth again. I don't believe you and it's because in the past she said that she hasn't and or that she's done it and that when I knew she didn't.
Speaker 1:Speaking of childhood, do you remember like, do you have any memories of the first time you lost trust or like you weren't trusting? I have a memory of being like somewhere in between like two and four years old. I was probably like four years old and I was supposed to go out on stage for dance in the Nutcracker and I remember not trusting that my parents would come back and get me. So I remember my mom standing there and being like go, we paid all this money for your costume, you need to go dance. And me freaking out and being like no, like nobody's going to be there for me.
Speaker 1:After this, Like it was like this anxiety of like lack of trust that people weren't going to be there. And I don't know if it's because when I was younger, like I was dropped off places you know like the parents like drop you off and run, like that kind of thing or where that came from. But I remember that specifically of like not trusting something and then having to do it anyway and just like jumping in and having to dance around on stage even though I was scared shitless.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah. It's definitely scary for a kid. I can see that that's tough for me. I would say not showing up for childhood, it was just I didn't trust, or I learned later what it was. That I didn't trust is for people to truly show up for me either physically or emotionally or yeah, pretty much those two I think that's the general theme.
Speaker 1:So do you carry that into your daily relationships now? Do you carry that into your current life, right now that people won't be able to show up for you in an emotional capacity?
Speaker 2:that people won't be able to show up for you in an emotional capacity. I think I find myself doubting the intention or doubting. It's a weird thing that I think I'm still working on right now. But I mean, I did my jujitsu tournament here a couple months ago. I think that's a great example. But, like all these random people decide you know, it's my first jujitsu tournament I'm like dude, I don't you know. Just a lot of unknowns of how I was going to do, and it was something I was just going out there for myself to do. And then all of a sudden, all these people were showing up and I'm like some people that I've seen or stay connected with, some I haven't been connected with in a while, and there's all these people there and I'm like gosh why, you know I got all this pressure now and let me ask you this did you feel like part of you was like are people showing up just to watch me get my ass kicked?
Speaker 2:yeah, I, I think that I mean, it was something that like passed through my mind. It wasn't something that took over. Uh, I mean, I think the biggest thing that took over for me is because I did some sick thing to my head.
Speaker 2:And just imagine myself defending my family, you know, and I think, that's what broke me the most when I lost, and that was just. I want to be able to challenge myself to the highest level, to be able to protect my family, but go back to that so we're talking about people showing up for you.
Speaker 1:So people showing up for you to your jujitsu tournament brought up stuff from your past, because you felt, maybe in the past that there was a situation where you couldn't trust the intentions of people showing up for you.
Speaker 2:then For sure.
Speaker 1:And then that you maybe had like a tough situation what was it? Wrestling or something in the past, and then and then. So then people show up in a supportive way and even if they come with the most loving intention, your brain still is in that fight or flight. Are these people actually supportive of me or are they going to make fun of me and and call me out for losing or whatever it is?
Speaker 2:Well, and in comparing, yeah, there's two situations, from childhood and to this recent one with jujitsu. It was more of an in the back of my mind thing, but it wasn't something that I allowed to impact me and impact how I felt about myself, impact my energy in general when it came to doing that thing. It was a big thing for me to train to do that. I gave it my best and I'm still giving it my best, still going back and training more. But in the past it was something I allowed to put me in a victim mindset. Here it was something I was like man, why are they showing up? Well, either way, I don't. Unless I ask them, I'm not going to know and really it doesn't matter to me that much. Really, there's people that came to support me.
Speaker 2:There's positive in that, which was was very, very much appreciated that people did have my back and they wanted to to be there for me.
Speaker 1:So that's the part that I think because of past experiences, you can't let it dim the light of your current experiences right, kind of like when anytime someone reaches out to me and they're like we should grab coffee, let's grab coffee with no like background or like I really want to talk to you about something.
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I'm like what MLM are you, or what? What are you trying to sell me right now, or what?
Speaker 2:are you?
Speaker 1:trying to get from me. I never trust that initial unless someone's like really clear. So let's go into that. Like what qualities do you think someone has to have, or a situation has to have, in order to feel fully grounded and connected into trust? For me it's clear, direct communication. If someone DMs me on Instagram and is like hey, let's grab coffee, I have some things I want to talk to you about, I'm going to avoid that like no other because there's no clear, direct, like. This is what I want to talk to you about. Hey, I really want you to join this team of mine or whatever, and I can straight up be like no, that's not for me. Or I have this business idea that I really want to talk to you about. Okay, maybe I'd be interested in, but if it's not clear and direct, don't like it.
Speaker 1:And then another thing is like integrity for me. So, just in terms of relationships in general, as someone says they're going to do something and then they back out or they don't show up or they don't do what they say they're going to do, that makes me throw up, that I cannot trust you. Red flag, yeah. And then I think one more thing that's like on my top is if someone's constantly gossiping or constantly talking shit on other people, big red flag Cause I always feel like if someone talks to you about other people, that they're not going to be afraid to talk to other people about you. So those are like my three, three things. I need direct communication, integrity and then like not a lot of like gossipy stuff. Yeah, what about you? I?
Speaker 2:agree. Well, I'd say, follow through on your commitments. Like you were saying, do what you say you're gonna do. Authenticity is huge to me, like once I feel like you're truly authentic, which sometimes can be a challenge, because some people are good at showing up, especially when they want something from you like very high energy, high vibe, authenticity, and then all of a sudden something comes out on the back end. What the true agenda is, you know, but that's usually what gets it's me is when I feel like someone's being authentic. Then it allows me to open up more and trust more. And I would say another thing would be going with what I said earlier showing up for me, like just truly being there to support me, uplifting me, helping from a place of non-judgment.
Speaker 2:Exactly.
Speaker 1:I think sometimes when people are untrustworthy, there's like an underlying manipulation or unpredictability, or even almost like this self-centeredness, like it's all about what they want or what they need, and then like also this lack of boundaries or emotional intelligence.
Speaker 2:Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 1:And then when people say honestly I said to be honest earlier or to be honest, or I just have to be honest. I'm like oh, so what are you? Are you not honest about everything else? I think your words are so powerful. I think you can really pay attention to the way people speak to see if they're trustworthy too.
Speaker 2:See, for me, though, I feel like when I use that, it's just it's me drawing a line in the sand and saying, hey, I'm trying to be like super real with you right now. Not that I'm not real before, but there's still a level of like. Like everybody that I come into contact with throughout the day. It's not like I'm giving them 100% truth about every little thing. You have to have certain boundaries within work lines and things like this. So for me, when I'm saying that and planning that, to be honest, I feel like it's usually to draw that line hey, I'm trying to give you something super real right now that I feel is intentional and important for this moment. But that's just me.
Speaker 1:I think it is when you say that it is a good time to reflect where it's coming from, what would you say for someone who maybe has like done things in the past where there's like actions that, like you said, even with like Ayana, you know a little little kid lying about something and then trying to regain the trust? But what about people that have like bigger situations, like cheating or lying, or how do you regain that trust? You think it's just like over time and action, yeah, or you know that's a tough one.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I think it's action, because I don't I mean, I've had past experiences where I can kind of pull from, but I think, just in general, it's the actions that really can allow you to start to build from that, because some things just are going to have a scar, some things are just going to burn so deep Ayanna lying about brushing her teeth isn't going to burn that deep, but there's some things that do burn deeper because we connect our ultimate, you know, like your examples before cheating and stuff like that, there's like an ultimate bond and commitment that you make in marriage. That is very important. So when you do that to me, I don't know that's a tough one. I don't, I'm not good with that. I just feel like that's something hard to come back from. But I would say actions is, you know, actions is the biggest thing you can go off of, because obviously there's some lying involved with that. So you can't rely on everything the person says.
Speaker 1:You can only rely on what they, what they do each day, you know what do you think makes somebody untrustworthy, like what causes them to be in that vibration of lack of integrity and self-centeredness and judgmental and critical and all of these kind of like low vibe, is it? Do you think it kind of starts with themselves?
Speaker 2:Like they don't trust themselves.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like the self-trust is truly the foundation.
Speaker 2:You got to start there, in my opinion.
Speaker 1:Yeah and so yeah. Once you start showing up for yourself and doing things for yourself, it's easier to show up for other people.
Speaker 2:Because here's the thing go back to the cheating scenario. If you're trying to recover from that truly and you're trying to show up as a person that is not that way, that is trustworthy. That doesn't. That's not lying and that's just trying to be better, You're going to go do things that make you better. You're going to just I'll just use my stuff as example I'm going to work, you're going work. You're gonna work out. You're gonna start reading things that improve your mind. You're gonna try to eat healthier. You're gonna pick up hobbies that are around, things that you love, and by those actions, by you doing that for yourself, you're gonna immediately show your partner that you're building trust within yourself.
Speaker 2:So now it opens the door for them to be like well, maybe they are becoming a stronger person and I can hopefully start to trust. But you can't ever. Sometimes the scars are always tough to deal with, for sure.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so once a cheater, always a cheater. Is that a thing? Once they're untrustworthy, are they always untrustworthy.
Speaker 2:No, I think. I mean, I think you can always become more trustworthy, but, no matter what, you can't remove the scars. So I think, like I said, I'm going to keep leaning on that because I think that that's the best way to understand it and describe it, because you won't ever remove the memory of that deed. You won't ever remove like how that made you feel, because you were so committed and trusting of that.
Speaker 1:So the crinkles in the paper always stay there no matter what, you can never flatten it back out yeah, but you can.
Speaker 2:But at the end of the day, when you build such a internal strength within yourself, you can move, you can move on from that, you can become a better person. And you have to build like a shield from that to where you don't let that past experience continue to tarnish your current experience, the current direction that you're going.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so building trust. Some of the things I think of are communication making, like putting everything out on the table, being accountable, saying what you did, owning up to it, whatever it is, even if it's small things, like the smallest of things, when you're you know when you've been dishonest in any capacity, if you own up to it. I think that helps too, like immediately, not just when you get caught, but just you know I did this thing or I was wrong here. I think that helps a lot too. And then like the consistency of making sure your actions. Actions speak louder than words, as they say.
Speaker 2:And one thing, too, I think is really important is when we talked about this in our prior episodes. But authenticity to me is key in all this, like when I did a lot of my work in the past, it led to me just being at a point where I'm like what you see is what you get with me, and because I built that trust within myself in the past and it's like I just want to show up myself wherever I go. Sometimes I got to calm down the fire mouth.
Speaker 2:But, in general, I feel great and I feel like I can just be myself, when I'm being true to myself in a lot of different ways and I'm showing up authentically. So if I show up authentically for myself, it allows for whoever I'm in contact with or for my relationships with you, example to be invited in to who I am and be able to discover that trust.
Speaker 1:Yeah, does that make sense? Yeah, so, okay. So if somebody wants to work on their own self-trust, they could maybe start by making some commitments to themselves, whether it's morning routine or something along the lines of setting some goals and committing to the actions that get them there and then following through with, like just speaking when they don't hit those milestones or, you know, owning it completely owning it, practicing that vulnerability and sharing from a place of just complete honesty of what it is that you want to. I think that helps build trust within yourself and with others.
Speaker 2:I tend to be, and it's something that I think has actually gotten worse. I tend to actually trust people less in the beginning now than I used to. But you know, my mother is my prime example. I lean on a lot, super trusting, sometimes to a fault, to where people would walk all over her and things like that, but she's gotten a lot better. Just so she hears me say that I've found myself in the past trusting anybody without having boundaries or strict guidelines. Yeah For that. But now it's like man, I question everybody. I'm like, oh gosh, you're effed up, you're effed up. You know, once you have kids, I feel like it changes things too.
Speaker 1:Sometimes with me, especially with the kids. I want to control what they're doing and who they're hanging out with and what they're watching on TV, because Lord knows if they go to somebody else's house and that parent doesn't watch them. And then they're walking the streets and doing this and that and I have no idea what's going on. That's where I am gripping and holding on and I cannot surrender, which is so hard.
Speaker 2:Because sometimes I mean sometimes you give too much rope, you end up learning like crap. I shouldn't have given that much rope. So I think in some scenarios like that, if it means being overprotective to keep our kids safe, it is what it is but.
Speaker 2:I'll give it a good example here. Quick is if, especially when it comes that we're talking about kids and things like that. But when you believe in setting the example for your kids, setting a good example for them, you do have to trust that at some point it's going to land. Just, sometimes it takes forever. You're like it's never going to land and they're never going to understand this thing that I want them to understand. But Kalina, just all of a sudden, on her own, just started eating eggs, literally this morning.
Speaker 2:I know this is a dumb thing, but I'm like, yes, get that protein girl Nutrition, but like we're always fighting her to like, eat healthy, eat something good for her, especially in the morning, because she tends to not eat the best and then she feels like crap and we try to help her understand that. But we for the most part, lead by a good example with that. I mean, that's all I do is eat eggs in the morning, so that's all she sees Like 20 eggs.
Speaker 2:More like 10, but yeah, that's gross. I'm going to have to buy more, I guess, now, because there's a couple of people I know that think that's gross, but I don't know why. It's just it's way too many eggs. What's the matter if it's two eggs or ten eggs? I'm a bigger individual.
Speaker 1:It's a ginormous plate of eggs.
Speaker 2:Well, I am a bigger person and I'm not eating anything else. It's just when you think about it. Ten eggs is about two scoops of a protein powder.
Speaker 1:Okay, but do you need two scoops of protein? Why not just one scoop? Because you want 30.
Speaker 2:I mean, if you're trying to maximize your growth and your protein intake, because a lot of people are trying to get a gram per pound.
Speaker 1:Yes.
Speaker 2:Two scoops is 60 grams of protein.
Speaker 1:You need 60 grams of protein.
Speaker 2:It's a good way to start you trust your body.
Speaker 1:Well, you tell me You're looking at the result of protein.
Speaker 2:That's a good way to start. You trust your body. Well, you tell me You're looking at the result of it. Oh my God. So yeah, so my point in that, to go back to it, is we sometimes just have to trust the example that we're setting and not helicopter. So much of like making. Hey, you force this banana, force these eggs, force all this food on our kids.
Speaker 2:Uh and that was an eye-opening moment like, oh, that's super cool. She's seen me eat eggs forever. I've asked her. She never wants to eat them and all of a sudden something just clicked this morning she's like dad, can I have some eggs? So random so, and then she wanted eggs and salmon today. I'm like she ate five eggs for dinner yeah five like what is happening I want to make her do some push-ups now, really maximize that out ah.
Speaker 1:So let's talk about trust and safety, because you're mr safety king, do you trust that, like the house is safe and we're good, can you trust in that? Yeah I what was it?
Speaker 2:I mean, yeah, I got what I need. And I mean I could always use more, but yeah, that's why I have all the things that we have in the house, so that I trust that we're protected, you know.
Speaker 1:Yeah, in what area of your life do you feel like you could use more trust?
Speaker 2:Well, I just, yeah, I think I just need to have you know kind of let go a little bit like loosen up and have faith in God's plan, that you know. To me faith in God's plan is having trust. So faith is trust, yeah.
Speaker 1:So it's that trusting in the universe more. In what way, though? In all areas of your life, to give it up? To give it up to God, as they say, to let go of the grip.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:But then what does that look like? Does that look like you're not striving for your goals as much, or is it? Does it look like you just not being as attached to the result?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I would say it's not being as attached to the result and giving yourself grace in the journey you know.
Speaker 1:Having grace with yourself, yeah and trusting that any slip up is a lesson.
Speaker 2:Exactly, or if you're trying to, if you have this set plan, like I got to do this in order for me to reach this goal, but you've got a lot of things going on in your life that maybe that changes in certain days of the week or in any day where it's like oh, this, my plan's changed. You know, like, for example, I want to do four days of jiu-jitsu and three days of lifting. That's been hard for me to reach, but some days I'm like the baby wakes up, she needs me, or I need extra sleep because that's what my body needs and I just have to give myself grace and trust that you know God is giving me that.
Speaker 1:Trusting that inner voice. Do you think trust is a masculine or feminine quality?
Speaker 2:Interesting. I think trust is a feminine quality, because it's flowing, yeah, and it's nurturing right.
Speaker 1:Well, to me, trust, is this flowing with what is? To me? It feels like I'm floating in the ocean and trusting that the ocean's going to hold me.
Speaker 2:I would say it's feminine for sure. Yeah, that's a good one, I like that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, or trusting and flowing with, if you think about people or situations. If you think about people or situations, me being anxious about my own retreat because I'm trying to grip and hold on and control everything that's happening, Whereas if I'm just like, okay, trusting that things will work out and I can flow with whatever happens and that people are going to show up and support and I can kind of rest. So trust is this resting, it's this allowing, it's this yeah, like letting other people take care of you in a weird way. To me that's trust.
Speaker 2:Yeah, and it's a beautiful feeling, it's a freeing thing to just be able to trust, because there's a lot of moments every day where we're like, well, we think about it, like am I having to just trust? You know, we start the car. We got to trust the car to start to work, to not malfunction and blow up. You know like there's so much trust that goes into our decisions. Every day. We trust so many things, but when it comes to trusting ourselves or trusting relationships or with people, I feel like we struggle. I mean, there's probably a lot of people out there like you know the person that's like I don't trust anybody, I don't trust people.
Speaker 1:Well.
Speaker 2:I would say it's good that you have this strong boundary to where, like, you are kind of protecting yourself. I think there's a there's some good in protecting yourself and protecting and understanding like hey, I need to protect myself here. But I also think you're missing a lot of what the world and life has to offer when you are not exploring trust further.
Speaker 2:So if you're completely closed to trust or you're very untrustworthy of people because of whatever past experiences, or whatever reason, I would just challenge you to not just completely open up, but start taking baby steps and start with yourself.
Speaker 1:Okay. So I want to read this quote by the late Dr Wayne Dyer, who I absolutely love. Yes, he's awesome and stinginess. So it reminds me of how, like so often, you hear that people who are trusting are typically more trustworthy because they have confidence in you and they have confidence in themselves and they have confidence in the universe. So what Wayne Dyer saying? Trust allows you to give and giving is abundant. So when I trust, I can give freely, I can give without limitations and I can release judgment and stinginess. So that's the goal, the practice.
Speaker 2:That's beautiful. I love that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then there's this other Ram das quote where he says let it all go and see what stays. So if you let go, you let loosen the grip, you let go and just see what sticks around. And that's what's meant for you. So for me, of letting go of teaching yoga for the month of december and me being freaking out everybody, everybody's going to forget about me. Um, I can just trust that, whatever you know, people that are still on the same frequency of me and that resonate with my stuff will come back.
Speaker 2:Yeah, that's awesome yeah.
Speaker 1:So trust in a sense is a gift, and it's a gift that is like karmically when you give it you receive it, and when it's broken it's hard to repair. But I think over time, through action and repetition and consistency, it can and then be given again yeah, absolutely, and it's something that is very important, so we got to focus on it.
Speaker 2:You can't. It's not something you can't. It's not something you can run from, it's not something you can avoid, cause, like I just said earlier, we're literally doing things that require trust every single day, and just the smallest ways are the ways that we just forget about. Trust is important through our day to day. Just evaluate your relationship with that. Like how are you? How does trust come into how you treat yourself? How is trust in your relationships? How is? How do people trust you? Are you trustworthy? Because it is a very important aspect of our lives.
Speaker 2:And it's OK. Wherever you sit at this moment, if it's not at the place that you feel proud of or if you're at a place where you feel embarrassed by it, it's okay yeah but just the fact of looking at it and saying, hey, this is a really important aspect of my life, or of life in general.
Speaker 2:I really want to explore this and I want to get better. And I'm going to start with myself. I'm going to start trusting myself more. I'm going to start implementing more disciplines that allow me to build that within myself. I'm going to honor my commitments.
Speaker 1:So, all leaning into all of the masculine qualities, which then allow you to lean into the feminine, Feminine, yeah. Discipline, commitment structure.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean you can go back to masculine and feminine in a lot of it, but it's interesting when you tie it into some of these.
Speaker 1:All of that helps you stay in the flow, yeah.
Speaker 2:Cause you can't just like you were explaining trust in a great way earlier is like trust is feminine or you're just like floating in you and flowing and you can be in that without worry, but that just doesn't happen by the snap of your finger. Yeah, there has to be a healthy balance between the masculine and the feminine energies.
Speaker 1:Yeah Well, I'm so grateful that I can trust you.
Speaker 2:I am too.
Speaker 1:Because I can't imagine living or being in a relationship, especially in marriage, where you cannot trust the person.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:And I know a lot of people are in that situation or have been, and I can think about past relationships where maybe I wouldn't trust somebody. So I'm like so grateful to have like a steady, solid relationship that I can trust, because that is hard.
Speaker 2:I'm glad you can say that. I'm glad I can do that for you. It's always something I'm working on in general within myself and to show up best for you and the girls, and I'm sure in parenting sometimes we break their trust too. That's the thing you got to think about as well. And they don't necessarily know how to communicate that. But there is ways. If we were to sit down and look at it and write it down, we could probably figure out oh, they probably don't trust us here and here.
Speaker 2:And it's okay if there's little dents and things. That's why it's okay if there's little dents and things. You can, you can fit. That's why it's so important to focus on because you can. You can recover some of the little dents. It's when you continue to ignore it and you allow it to get worse and then it creates scars that are really hard to come back from.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think. And if you think somebody doesn't trust you, just ask them hey, do you not trust me? Up, just ask and be able to receive the answer of why. And then clean it up, clean up the energy We've been through that a lot.
Speaker 2:I think we've pointed that out in different areas of our lives in the past and have just focused on becoming stronger there, you know so any Any closing thought.
Speaker 2:As a reminder from I probably said it a couple of times, but just to kind of bring it all together as a closing remark slow down and take this seriously, take this topic seriously and just with anything I think that we talk about or we bring up these things, you can just sit down with yourself in a quiet space and have a conversation. How do I feel about this area of my life?
Speaker 2:Okay so let's evaluate it. Let's look at how we can start to implement actions and disciplines that we can get better with it. Where am I lacking in trust right now with myself? So we got to start with ourself. Evaluate that. Put some actions and disciplines together, do those and do them consistently over time. Give yourself grace if you fall short, but continue to build that. And every day you start, every new day you wake up, is day one you can start over each day.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and then surrender and listen to your inner voice. I think that's huge. Trusting your inner voice, your inner guide, your intuition is trust.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm, yeah, beautiful.
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