Magic Mike XXL Road Trip Chaos

The Almost Classic Movies crew is back with an oversized episode on Magic Mike XXL. 

Daniel crashes the show with a surprise beer tasting, a Big Mac challenge, and a lightning round of “Hot Takes” that call out everything from Hamilton to fast food habits. 

Jon and Donald debate classic vs. flaccid ratings, share personal movie hot takes, and break down why this sequel delivers more heart and better dance sequences than the original. From unexpected drag club dance battles to discussions about toxic masculinity (or the lack of it), this road trip review blends comedy, craft beer, and surprisingly thoughtful commentary. 

Whether you love Magic Mike XXL or just want a hilarious night of pop culture banter, this episode has the laughs, the beer notes, and the movie insights you need.

Key Moments:

• 🍺 Beer Reviews: Heroic Doses West Coast Pale Ale and a hazy IPA from Hot Butcher get classic ratings.
• 🍔 Big Mac First Bite: Jon breaks his McDonald’s streak for the ultimate taste test.
• 🎬 Movie Deep Dive: Why Magic Mike XXL outshines the first film with more heart, road trip energy, and diverse dance scenes.
• 💃 Dance Culture Shoutouts: From voguing in a drag club to hip-hop inspiration, the crew explores how the film embraces inclusive performance styles.
• 🔥 Hot Takes: From Hamilton’s operetta debate to whether furries count as bestiality, nothing is off limits.

Listen Now: Crack a cold one, hit play, and decide if Magic Mike XXL deserves the “classic” stamp.

Transcript

[00:00:00] Daniel: You don't like the only Disney movie with a black Disney princess, and you said it was because you don't like frogs.

[00:00:16] Jon: Hello, welcome back to another episode of Almost Classic Movies, the show that's almost as classic as that one wild road trip story your friends keep bringing up at every reunion. 

[00:00:32] Daniel: All right, that's the that. That's John's intro. Hello and everybody. Welcome to the inaugural episode of almost six movies, none The Classic, or brought to you by Wayfair Recording Company and The Infinite Cow Hide Tanning co-op, the Infinite Cow Hide Tanning co-op, where we weather leather together forever.

Now, this is the show where we drink six beers, talk about an almost classic movie, and hopefully by the end you will have decided whether or not that this movie is a classic for you. There are only two ways that movies can be rated in these [00:01:00] episodes, just so we know, and those ratings are either classic or flacid.

And this movie is gonna be an XXL episode where we talk about an XXL movie, magic Mike, XXL. So to start us off, we're cracking the first beer of the night. Let's see what I have. Let's, let's see if I can find it in my backpack. 

[00:01:18] Donald: What did you know about this? 

[00:01:21] Daniel: John doesn't know anything. I plan things. 

[00:01:24] Jon: I've purposely not said a word yet.

'cause I'm so impressed right now. 

[00:01:28] Daniel: All right, there we go. So the first one we're drinking is actually a beer that is, this is, oh, this is one of the best beers that I've had in a long time, and I just had it the other night. Uh, this is from Microphone Brewing. It is a collaboration with Nosis Brewing Company.

Heroic Doses is a West Coast style extra pale ale. Donald, if you wanna, 

[00:01:44] Jon: I was not expecting that at all. 

[00:01:46] Daniel: Good. I'm very, 

[00:01:48] Jon: I, 

[00:01:48] Donald: I'm 

[00:01:48] Daniel: thrown 

[00:01:48] Jon: off and 

[00:01:49] Daniel: impressed. I remember the conversation. I just told you that I had something planned, but I know you like to plan things, so I didn't, but I didn't wanna ruin anything for you.

Well, I 

[00:01:57] Jon: was thinking of that conversation over text, but I was also [00:02:00] thinking we have like jokingly kind of, sort of in the last episode that you were on where you Oh yeah. Where we were like, we should do like a pseudo six pints. Oh, I'm so 

[00:02:13] Donald: excited. Yeah. 

[00:02:14] Jon: Yeah. Like, I remember that. So this is mm-hmm. Cool.

Yeah, 

[00:02:19] Daniel: yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. Wow. It's 

[00:02:20] Jon: like my birthday. 

[00:02:21] Daniel: Yeah. We got plans. Plans and things. Things and plans have a beer. So this beer is just like, I, I had one the other night and I was super impressed. It's just extremely dry, like hoppy. Really nice, easy. Maybe 

[00:02:34] Jon: I shouldn't have my Liquid Death Ghost Pepper.

[00:02:38] Donald: It'll it. What do you mean? It'll go great with every flavor? 

[00:02:42] Jon: Every flavor. 

[00:02:44] Donald: Oh, that's delicious. 

[00:02:46] Daniel: Yeah. You can crush it. Oh yes. Oh yes. It's really good. Really like nice grassy citrus hop forward profile, but just like drink super easy. 

[00:02:58] Jon: I've not had a 

[00:02:58] Daniel: craft 

[00:02:59] Jon: beer in so [00:03:00] long. 

[00:03:00] Daniel: I don't drink them very frequently anymore either, so I don't, 

[00:03:03] Jon: no.

Then 

[00:03:03] Daniel: like I, when I had it, I was like, this is so good. 

[00:03:06] Jon: Usually my beer of choice now is hams are two hearted. 

[00:03:10] Daniel: Oh yeah. 

[00:03:11] Jon: And that's like once every other week. 

[00:03:13] Donald: Hams been pretty good lately. Hams have fired. This is delicious. 

[00:03:18] Daniel: I like literally a couple weeks ago, I think, was it whenever the first Notre Dame game was?

That's really clean. Yeah, it's awesome. 

[00:03:23] Donald: Super clean finish. Yeah, I like that. 

[00:03:25] Daniel: Yeah, I just like went to Martin and got a six pack of PBR 'cause I'm just like, I don't have any beer in the house and I'm really craving just a beer right now. And sweet, sweet nectar of PBR. Oh, are we, 

[00:03:36] Jon: are we gonna post this on six the 

[00:03:37] Daniel: richer we, we can to I still pay for it.

I know. 'cause I get the, I We got 49 downloads last week. I don't know why, but have. It's like some, yeah, some feed. Like some feed scraper will go through probably every once in a while. Yeah. Like, I think there was one week I sent it to him and we had like 300 downloads one week. I was like, what happened?

Congratulations. Every other week's like three. [00:04:00] So it's not like, it's not like people are like all signing on. I can't tell you the last time 

[00:04:03] Donald: I listened to a six pin on the red episode, probably when the last one was really probably when the last one was released. I can't 

[00:04:09] Daniel: tell you the last time we recorded one.

So probably the same answer. 

[00:04:11] Donald: Uh, probably about a year ago. 

[00:04:13] Daniel: Yeah. Was it a year ago? It was close. I have look it up later, but yeah, I think so when we did that video episode. Alright. But for real, but for real. What do you guys think of it? I like it super clean. It's good. 

[00:04:26] Donald: Chill. I, I would give it, uh, what, what are the two ratings of this episode?

I'm not flacid right now. Yeah, it's not Flacid. Okay. 

[00:04:32] Daniel: Not Flacid. Classic or Flacid. Oh, classic. It's classic. Two 

[00:04:35] Jon: choices. Easy. 

[00:04:36] Daniel: All right. So also now before, uh, we, let's see. Actually 

[00:04:40] Jon: do the 

[00:04:40] Daniel: re almost classic movies part. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. We, we'll get to it. Don't worry. 

[00:04:46] Donald: Okay. This, this is the mashup episode we always wanted 

[00:04:48] Daniel: that everyone has been crying for, for sure.

Now, before we thank you, get into the movie. This week we are going to begin the show with airing of grievances and a little segment that I like to call Hot [00:05:00] Takes. 

[00:05:00] none: Gimme fuel. Gimme five. Gimme that what I desire.

Oh my God. Brought a sound for a fire 

[00:05:09] Jon: sail. Set some fight. 

[00:05:11] none: It's a bold strategy. Cotton. Let's see if it pays off for him. He let's, you're about to be in this place. That's the, 

[00:05:27] Daniel: okay. Alright. Uh, there was a theme song that was procured by me. Um, so this is a segment where I have heard things that John o Donald have said on their episode since the last time I was here, and I'm gonna chime in on those things now.

That was the Magic 

[00:05:43] Jon: Mike e episode. Yes. 

[00:05:44] Daniel: Correct? 

[00:05:45] Donald: Yes. You should go give it a listen. Yes, go give it a listen. 

[00:05:47] Daniel: Since that episode, you know, you guys have said some things, so, uh oh. I'm, we're gonna talk about it. Uh, I mean all these are just things I wanna comment on. Like, it's not just, um, not, not anything, you know, just not like [00:06:00] any bad things that you've said, but just definitely wanna add some things too.

Sure. So, we'll, we'll see how goes, go ahead. So I'm gonna alternate between you two throughout this, so neither of you feels too personally attacked by and just running down a laundry list of things. Okay. We're gonna start with John. Um, so one thing I take that personally Good, I'm starting with you. So I noticed that you seem to revel in being ambivalent about popular things in your life.

Um, first, 

[00:06:28] Jon: uh, what time is this? All right, cath, please listen at seven 50 as she'll say. Yep. 

[00:06:33] Daniel: Yep. Sounds right. Uh, Hamilton, uh, we'll get back to this later in the Donald portion. Don't worry. Uh, avatar. Um, excellent. Uh, Taylor Swift, um, which is hilarious 'cause this runs down the rabbit hole of you not really liking much pop music because it's like a little repetitive, even though you're the music you listen to, it's very just like chunk of, chunk of, chunk of chunk of, that's, that's the majority of it repeated et all for the rest of eternity.

Even though me and John both enjoy a [00:07:00] lot of the same music. But I will say that, uh, the Fast and Furious franchise, I will say that much. Um, you haven't seen any of them, correct? Correct. Correct. Sad, sad Day. You haven't seen any of them. I feel like you've known this. 

[00:07:13] Donald: No. Okay. I know you didn't wanna ever like do them.

I didn't know it was because you'd ever seen 'em. 

[00:07:19] Daniel: Yeah. Everything I'm gleaning from this is from this show that I apparently listened to and you don't, but Dad, do you not listen to this? I 

[00:07:25] Jon: listen to every episode. 

[00:07:26] Daniel: I don't listen to the 

[00:07:27] Jon: words that 

[00:07:27] Daniel: I say 

[00:07:28] Jon: allegedly. Oh. Oh, allegedly. Allegedly. 

[00:07:31] Daniel: Right. And also the, something that is a glaring thing for me that I've seen is that you've never had a Big Mac before.

[00:07:41] Jon: Yes. Hilariously, after the Zach Bryan concert at Notre Dame, we went to Burger King, 

[00:07:47] Daniel: famous for the Big Mac. And what I did not, 

[00:07:48] Jon: well, no, it like whopper whatever. I got something that was like. It's like a chicken wrap at 11 o'clock at night. I will say like, I personally, the waffle not, I know that's not a Big [00:08:00] Mac, but it's like, 

[00:08:00] none: yeah.

[00:08:01] Jon: Went to a place that has like a thing that I can get that's like popular. Right? I like a walker better than a Big Mac. I'll say I went way. I agree. 

[00:08:07] Donald: Whos are better than Big Macs? 

[00:08:09] Jon: Yeah. But it's like, no, I'm gonna go way off the menu. Right. 

[00:08:12] Daniel: All right, so we're rectifying that tonight.

I brought in a Big Mac. 

[00:08:21] Jon: This 

[00:08:21] Donald: is incredible. 

[00:08:22] Daniel: And we are gonna be, John's gonna be having it. 

[00:08:25] Jon: Oh my gosh. I did not count calories for this. 

[00:08:28] Daniel: There's a knife if you need to separate it for yourself. This man came prepared. You're so prepared. Oh my goodness. Yeah, you can, you can bite it. You can cut it. I don't care.

I'll bite it. Whatever you wanna do. All right. John's gonna bite it. Yes. Now we just have a random knife in here. I have not 

[00:08:44] Jon: had a McDonald's anything in so long. 

[00:08:46] Daniel: I would say. Me neither. I don't frequently eat McDonald's, but uh, no, it's all you one you want. Please do bite.

[00:08:54] Donald: Take two. They're small 

[00:08:57] Daniel: bird. He's eating it. [00:09:00] He's taking the bite. Listen to the crunch. Oh yeah, 

[00:09:03] Donald: the moisture. It's just became an A SMR podcast. It's always been that.

[00:09:11] Jon: It doesn't taste like anything. 

[00:09:13] Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. It tastes like Thousand Island and pickles mostly. I was about 

[00:09:16] Jon: to say, it tastes like thousand 

[00:09:16] Daniel: Island. Yeah, that's, that's the trick of Big Mac sauce is it's Thousand Island. I bet they'll say it's actually that minus ketchup or something. Yep. Tastes like nothing.

[00:09:25] Jon: So not impressed. I also got beer on my palette. 

[00:09:29] Daniel: I didn't bring it in because I thought you thought brought my 

[00:09:30] Jon: palate 

[00:09:31] Daniel: or because I love it, 

[00:09:32] Jon: but I You just wanna ruin my streak. Yeah. Oh, of course. 

[00:09:37] Donald: So, alright, three, three here is just, would you rate out the window, uh, classic or flacid? Very flacid. 

[00:09:42] Daniel: Come back for, uh, in, in 10 weeks.

Uh, we'll finish 

[00:09:45] Jon: it 

[00:09:45] Daniel: the next episode of almost six movies. None. The classic are where we do avatar. No, I'm just kidding. A watch along would be a fun answer. We'll do Avatar eventually, I think. Yes. Yeah. That's Gotta be honest. No, we will, I'll add that. All right. So let's dig into Donald A. Little [00:10:00] bit. Yeah.

Um, please, I dig into this. This is when we really start getting into some alternating here. Donald, you haven't seen super bad. I'm very surprised by that. 

[00:10:06] Donald: I have not seen super bad. I have it on DVD from a friend that I need to, that has like lent me it to watch. I just haven't gotten there yet. I really wonder how it holds for you.

That was, was Bite was 

[00:10:19] Daniel: good. Okay, good. I guess the first one you had, usually the first bite is pretty bread. Well, that one had 

[00:10:23] Donald: pickle. Oh, okay. Good. So, so you like it when Meat and Pickle goes in your mouth? 

[00:10:29] Jon: This episode is relevant. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Once all had, my body is soup, so this is actually really good.

There you go. Good. 

[00:10:35] Daniel: I'm glad. I'm glad I'm able to sustain you for this episode. My soup. I'm really interested in hearing your thoughts whenever you watch Super Bad because that movie, like, I saw it the summer before I was a senior in high school. Sure. So it's like that's, and that's when it came out. And so it was like, I was like the exact perfect demographic to see that.

Yeah. And it was in [00:11:00] theater's, probably the second. That's like always talked 

[00:11:02] Jon: about when it came out. Oh 

[00:11:03] Daniel: yeah. It's like maybe like still in theater experience. Top three theater experience for me. 

[00:11:07] Donald: Wow. Okay. 

[00:11:08] Daniel: Probably top one for me. It is probably Dark Night and imax, like first night it came out or whatever.

That was pretty incredible. Like just, I think the IMAX helped, but just the sound system, all that stuff. Second was probably Borat just 'cause like 

[00:11:20] Jon: I saw that that's always that guy's movie. 

[00:11:22] Daniel: I saw that movie the first three weekends It came out because there's like, if you go saw them, if you saw that movie like opening weekend with a crowd, it was just like insanely good.

I mean, just like everyone's there having a great time. It was just a really good theater experience, but super bad was awesome too. Yeah. Very funny. And I just would love to hear, I want, I want you to see it too because I feel like a lot of that movie has like. Come through culture. Yeah. In different ways.

Like pop culture references and stuff come from that movie, but also like, not in an annoying Napoleon Dynamite way. So it's like, like I feel like there's lots of stuff in there that people don't realize comes from that movie. 

[00:11:57] Donald: Sure. 

[00:11:57] Daniel: But yeah, that's 

[00:11:59] Donald: a great one. [00:12:00] I will add it to my list. You 

[00:12:02] Daniel: finished it, you finished it, you finished it in, in one hot take.

So I mean, does your, your thoughts, nothing but soup in my belly. Thoughts change after the end? No. Is it, does it move a like slightly less flacid? I, no. 

[00:12:16] Donald: Like, are you like, is it like a quarter chub or is it still just flacid? 

[00:12:21] Jon: Still flacid, but my belly's full of fake food. 

[00:12:25] Daniel: Yeah. Yep. It's philosophy, but he just took, I really do not like 

[00:12:28] Jon: McDonald's.

[00:12:28] Daniel: I, yeah, I I'm not here to espouse the wonders of McDonald's. No, but you broke my streak. Thank you. Yeah, I'm here for that. Definitely Big Mac. Cherry has 

[00:12:36] Jon: been popped. I knew I wanted to beat you, Donald. That's fair. 

[00:12:41] Daniel: All right, John and the Man of Steel episode, you claimed to eat 5,000 calories a day, which is like Michael Phelps level of calories per day.

What was the context of that? Again, you were just talking about, I you something you guys, like calories were brought up in some way and you were saying it, and it wasn't in a joking manner. Did not say, [00:13:00] which is funny. You're just like, yeah, I ate a ton. Probably like 5,000 calories and it, 

[00:13:05] Donald: it might have been like when you were counting the whiskey calories.

[00:13:10] Jon: Mm, I was gonna say that. Mm-hmm. I think I'm probably right. It's because, yeah, I, I do remember we were talking about like how ethanol is not really accounted for when it's like, you know, a shot of whiskey is like 150 calories for sure. And ethanol is not counted in that. So realistically you're probably consuming like 300 calories per glass.

Right. Roughly speaking. Right. And how much whiskey, probably at that point that I was drinking, it's like, yeah, we're probably consuming like 5,000 calories. 

[00:13:38] Daniel: That's why I weigh like 700 pounds. 

[00:13:40] Jon: I mean, that's why I stopped drinking like those crazy imperial stouts. Right. 

[00:13:43] Daniel: Those, those will get you for sure.

Those cans are 

[00:13:45] Jon: like 

[00:13:46] Daniel: Yeah. 

[00:13:47] Jon: A Big Mac, honestly. Yeah. 

[00:13:49] Daniel: Yeah. Those, those can be big those bombers but honestly, 

[00:13:52] Jon: way tastier True. A hundred percent 

[00:13:55] Daniel: tastier 

[00:13:57] Jon: because that doesn't taste like anything. 

[00:13:59] Daniel: Yeah. [00:14:00] It's, it does. It's like pickles and Thousand Island and 

[00:14:03] Jon: which is redundant, right. With the Sesame seed bun 

[00:14:04] none: which is redundant 

[00:14:06] Daniel: Yes, exactly. All right, moving on to Donald again. Uh, so when naming examples of what people think are the funniest movies ever, I forget which episode this was. This may have been Man of Steel. You're like, uh, the Hangover. Good movie. I'll admit that. I like the Hangover a lot. American Pie. A classic for sure.

And then aged poorly. And then aged. Yeah. I would say problematic now, but funny at the time. Sure. And like a big cultural impact when it came out. For sure. Everybody was fucking pies that summer. And then at the end of the like, and then at the end of this list of like seemingly classic movies, you said, good luck Chuck, the Dane Cook vehicle, a movie that, even for Dane Cook standards, I would say is a struggle to get through.

I will say I did like Employee of the Month, the Dane Cook movie. That one was good. Where he, where he works at like a Costco. That one's not it, even as Dak Shepherd who sucks, but it was like [00:15:00] they were both okay in it or whatever. Yeah. But 

[00:15:04] Donald: I, I just, I just remembered everybody in high school loving.

That's what I kind of think. Yeah. 

[00:15:09] Daniel: I think when it came out that was like Peak Dan Cook too. And his friend was a plastic surgeon so they're like, we can go see this funny movie and there's some jugs in it. I mean you're in high school. 

[00:15:20] Donald: Yeah. That's all you really care about in high school. Yeah. Funny movie with mild nudity.

[00:15:25] Daniel: Right. Exactly. 

[00:15:26] Donald: That's all that matters, right? Yeah, 

[00:15:28] Daniel: exactly. Exactly. Where is I going into this? Oh, okay, John, sorry. Do you have more to say about that yourself Further? I was gonna 

[00:15:36] Donald: say and all of those movies fit that bill. True. Yeah. 

[00:15:41] Daniel: True. Very true. 

[00:15:42] Donald: Thank you 

[00:15:43] Daniel: John Treasure Island episode. Uh, bring It on Planet.

These don all have to do with every episode. I just like to give a reference point for people. Um, treasure Planet. You're right. I think you guys talked about Muppet Treasure Island and that was in my mind, but this is not what we're talking about. We have talked about you have, you have talked, we have discussed Yes.

Treasure [00:16:00] planted episode. Yep. Uh, U asked why back to the future three had to be in the west. Uh, well, 'cause it's based in Southern California and that is the west. They just happen to go back in time in a western. You know what, 

[00:16:13] Jon: scratch all of my comments. No, it's funny because back to, back to future three is legit is perfect because of this reason.

Because of this reason alone. Because this is historically accurate. Yes, because desert in spaghetti Western. Yeah, exactly. Oh, silly of me 

[00:16:26] Donald: that, yep. Now we gotta do it. 

[00:16:29] Jon: No we don't. Yeah, we just gave the whole plot away. Still in California. Still, still there. 

[00:16:34] Daniel: That's where we're everybody knows. Uh, so crappy Donald, you said John Krasinski should be the actual Reed Richards instead of Pedro Pascal.

John Krasinski has not made a good thing since the office. 

[00:16:48] Donald: Um, I would disagree. 

[00:16:50] Daniel: Name 

[00:16:51] Donald: one. Uh, didn't he spearhead Jack Ryan's boring. Uh, I was gonna say, didn't he help spearhead the longest yard not [00:17:00] COVID version of the Princess Bride where like everybody did those like 

[00:17:06] Jon: Yeah, but that's not some good news.

Was only good for like one episode 

[00:17:11] Daniel: that was like, yeah, that was one episode. And everybody's like, 

[00:17:13] Jon: but that's because it's novel. 

[00:17:15] Daniel: Yeah. 

[00:17:15] Jon: Yeah. 

[00:17:16] Daniel: And that doesn't mean it's 

[00:17:17] Jon: good. 

[00:17:18] Donald: It was some good. News. 

[00:17:20] Daniel: It was like, it was like during, during like the first week of COVID when everybody was like trying to get together, try.

[00:17:25] Jon: Everybody's looking for copio. Yeah, 

[00:17:26] Daniel: yeah, exactly. Then everyone just wanted to die. Like, can we all get COVID and just get this over with, uh, John the Encanto episode. Uh, bring it on. You don't like the only Disney movie with a black Disney princess and you said it was because you don't like frogs.

[00:17:48] Donald: That's tough. 

[00:17:49] Jon: Yeah, I like cov or I like, I like COVID. I like encanto. No, it was the princess, the frog, the princess 

[00:17:56] Daniel: and the frog. 

[00:17:59] Jon: [00:18:00] Yeah. I 

[00:18:00] Daniel: don't, that's fine. But I just thought like, I just don't like frog. 

[00:18:06] Jon: I see the point that you're about. I do. You're focused on the joke of it. I'm focused on, of course, my phobia frogs.

I totally 

[00:18:15] Daniel: get 

[00:18:17] Jon: the print shit phobia 

[00:18:19] Donald: for sure. I get it. Not, not phobia shaving here, just 

[00:18:22] Jon: No, just pointing out that I'm racist. 

[00:18:27] Daniel: Hey, this are just hot takes, you know, there's no judgment here. These are just the takes that are hot. I'm just like, no, 

[00:18:33] Jon: I'm with you. I just think it's,

I'm 

[00:18:38] Daniel: not trying to be defense. John's crying. He's holding, fighting back tears. I just love that they turned Mr. Toad's Wild Ride. Into Princess and the Frog. They turned an abjectly racist ride into which I liked, into a less racist ride, which I don't like [00:19:00] 

[00:19:00] Donald: actually. Wait, so how do you feel about the difference between toads and frogs then?

[00:19:08] Jon: I do not like that type of amphibian. Okay. If it can unpredictably, we use a type 

[00:19:15] Daniel: of amphibian. Sounded like you were one of the bad guys. And remember the Titans. I don't like that type of amphibian coming into my town and going to school with my other children. 

[00:19:27] Jon: I just really like that you're continually roping this into it being a racist commentary on a 

[00:19:33] Daniel: movie that is not white.

I don't want no toad coaching my high school football team. I don't. I agree. They don't know much. They can't run a nickel for anything. Donald, uh, let's see. As a, as a staunch defender of Hamilton, you also like to say that Hamilton isn't really a musical because it's most, the music is mostly just beats, which I deeply disagree with.

No, I would love you to shut the hell up. [00:20:00] No, probably defensive 

[00:20:02] none: there. You can 

[00:20:02] Daniel: defend yourself at the end. Of what I'm saying. Um, and, uh, I'd just love you to reexamine the soundtrack because there, I would say that there's more non Rapp songs on it than rap songs on it. 

[00:20:15] Donald: So, uh, as a staunch lover of Hamilton, no.

Uh, for the record, I've seen Hamilton live 

[00:20:23] Jon: irrelevant. 

[00:20:24] Donald: Uh, 

[00:20:25] Jon: I you can buy a ticket and still think the same thoughts. 

[00:20:28] Donald: Um, I would, I would like to say categorically it's not a musical, it's an operetta 

[00:20:38] Daniel: because there's no words spoken 

[00:20:40] Donald: there. There are like, there is a significant, like, like there's a minimal, minimal amount of words actually spoken.

Yeah. Very paint by numbers. It is a

[00:20:52] Jon: Did you not like it when I said that? Oh, I was mad, 

[00:20:56] Daniel: I was 

[00:20:56] Jon: fuming. 

[00:20:58] Donald: Um, [00:21:00] so categorically it's not musical. I would call it classify as an operetta. 

[00:21:04] Jon: Categorically not a, not a musical. The way you're moving your hands, 

[00:21:11] Daniel: first half Le Manuel Miranda, Puerto Rican.

[00:21:17] Donald: All right. Um, but uh, I call it the rich port.

[00:21:24] Jon: Wait, is that true? 

[00:21:26] Daniel: I think door, maybe Rico's rich. Puo is door, I think. But Rich Door, I don't know. Maybe it's a. Door to something. 

[00:21:34] Jon: No, I could that, that makes sense 

[00:21:35] Donald: actually. Yeah. So, but, uh, I understand your, your, your, your grievance and I appreciate it. Appreciates it. Good. 

[00:21:43] Daniel: Um, and pretty much the rest of these are, uh, Donald, um, yes.

Uh, terrible. You said that I'm here. People who are furries furry. That a furry is a form of bestiality. Um, wouldn't spoken with a guy that's wearing Meow Hammer 24. I wouldn't say that [00:22:00] furry, like furries don't wanna bang animals, they just wanna bang humans who are dressed up like animals. This is like saying that if someone, that if you hooked up with somebody in a zombie costume at a Halloween party, that you're into necrophilia.

[00:22:12] Donald: That, that's fair. 

[00:22:14] Jon: That actually is fair. 

[00:22:15] Donald: I, I recay my statement. I take it back. I apologize. 

[00:22:20] Daniel: Also, I've learned about the furry community. I absolute really like that. It, I've learned this about it. That furry community is pe people just think of anything like, like that or whatever, someone going, doing a con kind of thing.

Sure. Is like a sex thing. When actually, I guess the basis of it is not a sex thing, but it's like, like a ren fair. Where it's like the basis of this isn't a sex thing. People do the sex after the thing, but it's not like we don't come here to do the sex. It's like a natural byproduct. Exactly. Yeah. 

[00:22:44] Donald: Yeah.

That, that's also fair. As someone who has been to cons and run fairs. Right. 

[00:22:49] Daniel: Exactly. Like, this is not what we're here for. It could be, but it's not like the sole purpose of why we're here. 

[00:22:55] Donald: Yes. 

[00:22:56] Daniel: Um, 

[00:22:56] Donald: so, you know, 

[00:22:57] Daniel: just, just leave it on. 

[00:22:57] Jon: I'm right. Let's keep going. I 

[00:22:59] Donald: mean, I [00:23:00] am looking forward to the day that a, that a a borrower made will talk dirty to me as I'm drinking a beer, as she like, as she's like pouring it into my mouth.

Um, but I haven't gotten to one of those run fairs yet. They don't have that at the South Bend runn fair. 

[00:23:15] Daniel: You gotta go to a, I don't even know where there's Deep middle Michigan or something. 

[00:23:19] Donald: Yeah, I think it's in Holland. 

[00:23:23] Daniel: The Holish. Refa. Yeah. Uh, Donald, you called Dick Hallin from, uh, the Shining Dick.

Halliburton, uh, is a Bush era Floridian slip going on. Um, John, you're talking about just in the last episode, you're talking about roadies versus groupies and Donald is correct that roadies are stage hands and groupies are people who want to sleep with or they do other jobs with their hands. That 

[00:23:44] Jon: makes sense now.

Okay. Yes. That's an alliteration like, or pneumonic device. I can't remember. Yeah, exactly. It's helpful. Heard. Yep. Group groupies 

[00:23:52] Daniel: and something you guys didn't talk about much in Spinal Tap episode. Have you guys seen many other like Christopher Guest movies like Best In Show A [00:24:00] Mighty Wind? Um, there are many others.

Uh, waiting for Guffman? Nope, because you guys talked a lot about Rob Reiner, but really Spinal Tap is a Christopher Guest movie 'cause he's the one who's like done like perfected this mockumentary style that Rob Reiner's an insane director, clearly did a really good job, did a really good job in his part in the movie as well.

But go watch the other Christopher Guest movies if you like that one too. Best In Show, I think is like the TOS one for me. Best show seems 

[00:24:26] Jon: familiar to me. Yeah. I may not have seen it, but I've heard about it. 

[00:24:29] Daniel: Like Christopher guess like that era is like, it's slightly above me. So it's probably even more above you guys.

'cause it's more like, I got some ancillary of that from my older sisters. Got it. So, but Best in Show I think is, is one of the top 10, like, maybe not top 10 funniest movies, but is an extremely good movie. Sweet. Very funny. Go watch that. Sure. And let's see. Oh yeah. Yes. You were thinking of Bogart in Cincinnati when you're trying to figure out if it was Cincinnati or Cleveland.

[00:24:54] Jon: Yeah. 

[00:24:54] Daniel: Um, yes. You were talking about panic at the disco. I saw panic at the disco there one time. I 

[00:24:59] Jon: think we've talked about that 

[00:24:59] Daniel: [00:25:00] probably. Yeah. I'm just bringing it up again because it's one of the few cool things I've ever done in my life. Um, my Own Hot take. I think that Casablanca is boring. I think it's very slow.

It's slow. It's two hours of people sitting in a bar and 

[00:25:13] Donald: it's not, first off, it's not two hours, it is less than two hours. It happens in Cleveland. I think it, it's four hours. I think it's takes place in Cleveland, probably close to like 94 minutes. And there 

[00:25:24] Jon: the bar is at Barrio. Yes, 

[00:25:28] Daniel: exactly. 

[00:25:29] Jon: My dad really likes that movie too.

Um, I don't remember if I mentioned that before. So I've seen a very passive way. 

[00:25:35] Daniel: Okay. One hour, 42 minutes and then it also came out in 1942. Interesting. Huh. Good thing to remember. Could have been 90 minutes. Yeah. Another way to remember that. 

[00:25:43] Donald: Definitely. Yeah. Um, no, I, I disagree. I think it's actually really well paced.

Um, 

[00:25:49] Daniel: oh, that's 'cause you, maybe I'll have to re-watch it. 

[00:25:51] Donald: Yes. That's, that is a classic movie, right. 

[00:25:56] Daniel: Smell so good. My final hot take, Donald. I think that you [00:26:00] should definitely buy Silk Song Over Personified Oil. Wrong, wrong. I've been playing, I've been playing it a ton. Wait, who's that hot take 

[00:26:08] Jon: towards him or me?

[00:26:10] Daniel: I mean, it, it's just telling Donald that. 'cause like, I mean Silk Song, it's only 20 bucks. I've been playing the hell out of it since it came out. It's really good. If you like, the Return on 

[00:26:18] Jon: Investment's equal though, 

[00:26:20] Daniel: I guess like if you really like, um, if you really like Hollow Night Silk song is basically just more, more hollow night.

Which rules More Better. Hollow night. Also, when I said all that, I said that you should not buy Persona five Royal, because let's see, I have something else in my bag here. There brought 

[00:26:42] none: Yes, no, we made this happen. So he has no excuse. I have no excuse, excuse. Now this is a zero 

[00:26:46] Jon: excuse. 

[00:26:47] none: Okay. I You may buy 

[00:26:48] Jon: Silk song now, but 

[00:26:50] none: yes.

Play that first. Yes, yes you can. There'll be a 

[00:26:54] Jon: lot of reading too, while Kiddo is falling asleep on you. Yes, because it's a lot [00:27:00] of reading. 

[00:27:00] Donald: It's a lot of reading. Yeah. Yes. I've been meaning to open a book lately actually. 

[00:27:06] none: Yes, 

[00:27:07] Donald: yes. 

[00:27:08] Daniel: You're gonna have fun making coffee in a coffee shop while a cat makes fun of you.

It's gonna be a good time. An old man gets mad at you. Yes. It's gonna be a good time. 

[00:27:16] Jon: Yes. 

[00:27:17] Daniel: Okay. Yes. That was a gift from me and John. It was a combo. It was both of us. Aw, yes. Yep. 

[00:27:22] Jon: Thank you. I've never Venmo someone so fast,

[00:27:28] Daniel: like we gotta do this, right? Yeah. 

[00:27:30] Jon: Yep. 

[00:27:31] Daniel: As, as the listener, since it's not a video podcast, me and John just did g Donald Persona five Royal for the Nintendo Switch. Uh, he's gonna enjoy it. I will. He will. He will enjoy it. I will 

[00:27:42] Donald: enjoy it. Yes. He better. 

[00:27:44] Daniel: And you best I will. Before we move on to the movie, let's crack another beer.

How, what that 

[00:27:51] Jon: is Switch one Games compatible with switch two? 

[00:27:54] Daniel: I think so. I'm not a hundred percent sure. 

[00:27:56] Jon: Okay, 

[00:27:57] Daniel: so the next one we're gonna be drinking is one that I haven't [00:28:00] had yet, but it's from Hot Butcher and they always do killer stuff. This is be alert for foul balls. This is a Nelson Solve and Moka hopped.

IPA.

You guys made it through hot takes. You didn't burn. We only got defensive once. So did I. 

[00:28:17] Jon: That's not true. 

[00:28:18] Daniel: And hopefully everyone knows and listens that we're all just having fun here. There's no personal, I mean, some attacks are personal, but they're, they're, they're good personal, 

[00:28:26] Jon: like getting me a Big Mac.

[00:28:27] Daniel: That 

[00:28:29] Jon: was very, yeah, that was very personal. That 

[00:28:30] Daniel: was very 

[00:28:30] Jon: personal. And I took that personally. 

[00:28:32] Donald: And you ingested it personally actually, 

[00:28:35] Daniel: yeah. John's going to go 30 and 10 as you, you, can you 

[00:28:39] Donald: follow up with us what that shit is like for.

[00:28:46] Daniel: Sure. I would say the, I mean, I would say, if anything it's gonna be magnificent. If he's only had soup today, that would be the issue. Then now that he's got, he's got actual solid food, it's gonna be better. Better. True. That's 

[00:28:56] none: actually fair. 

[00:28:57] Daniel: Hazy. IPA doesn't say hazy on the can, but [00:29:00] here we are drinking a hazy beer.

[00:29:02] Jon: Love the color, trying to figure out the nose. 

[00:29:06] Daniel: So my thing with Nelson Sullivan hops is that they're pretty subtle. 

[00:29:09] Jon: I was gonna say it's very, 

[00:29:11] none: it's like 

[00:29:12] Jon: lemon 

[00:29:13] none: grassy. 

[00:29:13] Jon: Mm-hmm. I was gonna say it's very muted for me. 

[00:29:15] none: Yeah. Get like for 

[00:29:16] Daniel: sure white grape kind of thing. But it's also, the last beer we had was really, really good.

[00:29:24] Donald: Yeah. It's very subtle. It's really subtle. Not as full bodied as the last one. 

[00:29:28] Daniel: Mm-hmm. Hmm. Mm-hmm. You're right. 

[00:29:32] Jon: Which is weird 'cause it looks much more right? Like there should be going stuff going on.

[00:29:42] Daniel: Yeah. Interesting. I'd never had this one before and saw it this week when the check it out. 

[00:29:47] Jon: I would say it is refreshing though. Usually hazy is like, mm-hmm. This would either aren't or like, uh, like so juicy. It's crushable. But I, this one I could have on a really hot day. I was 

[00:29:59] Donald: gonna [00:30:00] say, this feels like a boat beer.

Yes. I would agree to that actually. 

[00:30:03] Jon: Mm-hmm. 

[00:30:06] Donald: Light, refreshing. 

[00:30:08] Daniel: Yeah. I don't think the a v's. Crazy either. 6, 7, 5. So 

[00:30:11] Donald: that's not bad. No, I was gonna say a little watery on the back end. 

[00:30:15] Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. And of that said, I'd like to turn the, turn this episode over to John 

[00:30:21] Jon: after Ping. That was very piring the tile. Wow.

Tight episode. No, that was great. 

[00:30:26] Donald: Appreciate it. Seriously, we 

[00:30:29] Jon: got out. Takes well 

[00:30:30] Donald: done. 

[00:30:30] Jon: Yeah. Well, wow. So we have Dan on the show, if you hadn't noticed, 

[00:30:42] Daniel: I guess I forgot I hijacked the show before interview. Yeah. You like 

[00:30:44] Jon: jumped right into it. I like that. I 

[00:30:46] Daniel: really wanted to, I really wanted to get on it just to Yeah.

Oh you 

[00:30:49] Jon: did? 

[00:30:50] Donald: Yeah. There was no foreplay. Yeah. So it was, it was. 

[00:30:52] Jon: So 30 minutes into the recording, Dan, editor Dan is guest. Yes. Guesting on this, [00:31:00] uh, we're continuing our series. Magic Mike X xl, A sequel. Yes. And you guys haven't yet, you should check out the first episode of the series. I guess I can't recall what episode number it was, but 

[00:31:15] Daniel: mm-hmm.

[00:31:16] Jon: You'll find it. Magic Mike. It's on the title. 

[00:31:20] Daniel: That's right. It is on the title. 

[00:31:22] Jon: It should be. 

[00:31:23] Daniel: I'm looking right now. We'll see. We'll see what it actually is, if I can find it. What's the name of this podcast? 

[00:31:28] Jon: ACM Zero. There you go. Three. 

[00:31:32] Daniel: Eight. Looking to the Apple Podcast app. Um, I don't know if we did it however many episodes ago.

We're doing it Magic Mike, June 19th is when it came out. There's no numbers on that. There's no numbers 

[00:31:44] Jon: on it. So yeah, check that out first. Uh, just kinda get context Yeah. Just on what we're doing. And also the first episode of the series, magic Mike, and now we're doing X xl. 

[00:31:56] Daniel: I said, watch Magic Mike. Do that.

Do yourself a service. 

[00:31:58] Jon: Watch Magic Mike. Yeah. Off what do [00:32:00] actually right off the rip, which isn't is I like to say on here, what do we think 

[00:32:07] Donald: overall? Overall. Like, I thought this movie was like a great broad trip. 

[00:32:14] Jon: Yes. 

[00:32:14] Donald: Mm-hmm. It's a very good bro trip. Yeah. I mean it's, you know, the best way to rediscover yourself is a weekend trip with the bros.

Mm-hmm. Like that. It's said in the movie and I, I couldn't agree more. 

[00:32:31] Daniel: It's like a dude's road trip. It's like the least toxic masculinity. Right. Dude. Road trip movie ever. 

[00:32:39] Donald: Yeah. Like for something that has like the potential to be incredibly toxic. Yeah. It in a genre that should be incredibly toxic. Like this movie is kind of wholesome on the whole Yeah.

You know, everybody 

[00:32:55] Jon: gets their time to like do some self discovery since Yeah, definitely. 

[00:32:58] Donald: Yeah. 

[00:32:59] Jon: The guy that was [00:33:00] kind of the puppet master of it. It's no longer the crew. 

[00:33:04] Donald: Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:04] Jon: Mm-hmm. Um, so it's like, well, what does that mean now that our identity is gone? Essentially? What is that? Yeah. Right, right. So, 

[00:33:13] Daniel: yeah.

So I mean, if we remember after, at the end of the last one, you know, they, they were the kings of Tampa and they had, you know, McConaughey then moved the whole club to Miami because he opened up this new club and Mike decided to stay in Tampa to hang out with his girlfriend there. See where that, see how that, uh, relationship blossomed.

And then we enter this, I think it's three years later. It is how this starts. 

[00:33:35] Jon: Yep. Yeah. Yeah. So we can just jump right into it. I'm let you do it. I'm, you're good. I'm not trying to No, I was about to say, that's a good segue into just getting right into it. So the plot overview, back in the game, three years after leaving the stripping world, Mike is running his furniture business, but feels unfulfilled.

A call from his old kings of Tampa friends reignites, his spark when they announced they're heading to Myrtle Beach for one [00:34:00] last big convention, redneck Riviera. Despite initial hesitation, Mike decides to join the crew to rejoin the crew for their one last ride. 'cause why not? 

[00:34:13] Donald: Why not, why not? Uh, I think this movie does a really good, like, like we said, the last one did a good job of subverting like expectations.

Mm-hmm. And this one does that again, but there's a little bit more. Plot driven in the subverting expectations. And so I, my specific example is you think everything's going well at the house with Mike. 

[00:34:39] Daniel: Mm-hmm. 

[00:34:40] Donald: Um, he's 

[00:34:40] Daniel: got a successful business. 

[00:34:42] Donald: Successful business. I mean, he's 

[00:34:42] Daniel: working hard, you know, he's, he's struggling a little bit 'cause he wanting to get it going, but he's like, he's working hard and clearly he shows him fulfilling orders Right.

For his furniture. But he's not just like, I have a furniture business and he is not doing shit. No. Like, he's like delivering orders and 

[00:34:53] Donald: stuff. He's got his own truck. 

[00:34:54] Daniel: Yeah. He's 

[00:34:55] Donald: got an employee. Mm-hmm. Um, he's 

[00:34:57] Daniel: trying to get him healthcare. 

[00:34:58] Donald: Right. There's a note in the [00:35:00] freezer from his girl. 

[00:35:01] Daniel: Mm-hmm. 

[00:35:02] Donald: And that 

[00:35:03] Daniel: he throws in the trash.

[00:35:06] Donald: Well, yes. But like, you know, he, it was still there. Um, it's harboring feelings, right. 

[00:35:13] Daniel: It's a struggle. 

[00:35:15] Jon: And

I love the commentary on this commentary. Thank you. It's a 

[00:35:21] Donald: struggle indeed. 

[00:35:23] Jon: We're struggling. 

[00:35:24] Donald: We're struggling. We're here. It's life. We're doing it. Say lavie 

[00:35:30] Jon: the V

That's what Kath says to me whenever I'm like, well say Lavie. And she's like the V I'm like, that's, that's awesome. Okay. 

[00:35:42] Donald: That's awesome. I heard chef. Uh, but yeah. Uh, God, I'm so stuck. Take it away. I I don't want any floors. Yours thing, one thing I 

[00:35:56] Jon: really like about this movie as far as like how it's [00:36:00] m established as a movie itself is that this feels very authentically slice of life.

Yes. 'cause I feel like you can just kind of ham up a lot of like, oh, well Matthew McConaughey didn't wanna re-up his contract for another one, so we just gotta like, I don't know, kill him off or he moved away or whatever. Whatever you want to call it. Right. Went to Japan. Went to Japan, went to go get some s shrimp, grits, whatever.

I don't know. Right. Like, just fill in the blank. Matthew mcc Connie didn't wanna do it, so now his character is doing this. Right. Or has done that, but now it's like very, like authentically, they have a really fair actualized reason as to why they're not in the movie. 

[00:36:41] Donald: Mm-hmm. 

[00:36:43] Jon: So it's just kinda like, this is just the natural next step of these characters as opposed to like shoehorning in.

Right. Something just to get the movie out there. 

[00:36:51] Donald: Right. And like to your credit and you can 

[00:36:52] Jon: feel it too. 

[00:36:53] Donald: I like it. Yeah. Well, to your credit, like it's not out of Dallas's character to screw [00:37:00] the Kings of Tampa over. 

[00:37:01] Jon: Yeah. I mean, he Right. He is. Yeah. He was the puppet master the whole time, which has like.

Very well assumed, like, well, what's he capable of doing as a person? So it's like, okay, well, no surprise. 

[00:37:16] Donald: So watching this opening, I have a question for you guys. Would you ever take a road trip in a food truck? Just like a hundred percent. Like a hundred percent? I'd consider it. I'd have to be, would you be driving?

[00:37:31] Jon: Do 

[00:37:31] Donald: you 

[00:37:31] Jon: need a seatbelt? No. I would love to do a route 66 road trip in a food truck i'd. That's not what they did here. But Id be an 

[00:37:39] Daniel: interesting place in my life to convince my wife that this was a good idea. 

[00:37:43] Jon: If I said that to cats, she would say Absolutely. Because you would not do that. Right. But I would.

[00:37:49] Daniel: Yeah, but you go ahead. Would a like this just rehab a food truck and this, if I was Mike in this situation, would I do what he did? 

[00:37:57] Donald: Yes. Obviously, I, [00:38:00] I'm asking, would you Dan, do a road trip in a food truck? 

[00:38:08] Daniel: Depends on what the hotel situation is. That's what he's answering. 

[00:38:10] Donald: Okay. 

[00:38:10] Daniel: Depends on what you know. If that's what answer.

If I know, know, at the end of the, you know, I, I can sit on a bench seat for some hours and you know, with some friends we're hanging out, we're doing MDMA. That's fine. We can do that in the truck and also give it to the driver and we'll see what happens. But. If the end of the day I can, I can be in the truck, that's fine.

But as long as the end of the day, I know that I can like sleep in an actual bed inside with like indoor plumbing that sound, I'm okay with that. 

[00:38:36] Donald: Okay. I respect that caveat. I'm actually with you on that. I No, I agree on that caveat. Yeah. Yeah. So are we buying a food truck? 

[00:38:44] Jon: Of course. I've always actually wanted to buy one.

Now's 

[00:38:47] Daniel: the best time to start a restaurant, 

[00:38:48] Jon: but not rehab it 

[00:38:51] Daniel: just like a greasy trash pit on wheels. 

[00:38:53] Jon: No, I'm saying more like making it usable for a road trip. 

[00:38:57] Daniel: Oh, okay. Gotcha. Because 

[00:38:59] Jon: food trucks are [00:39:00] like their trucks, but they're meant to be like within proximity of where they were like established. Right.

What kind of food truck? 

[00:39:08] Daniel: What, what, what did the food truck formerly serve?

Ooh, that's a good question. I, I know what 

[00:39:14] Donald: I, I think I know what yours would serve. Oh man. I, I think yours would do like coffee and crepes. Like not the crepe part, but not the crepe. 

[00:39:23] Daniel: You really wish, think that you could serve, but also I wouldn't be that tough to make the food on the trip for your trip while you're driving.

I 

[00:39:29] Jon: really wish I was the one that first thought of like a grilled cheese food truck. 

[00:39:33] Daniel: Yeah. Yeah. I really wish I 

[00:39:34] Jon: was that person. 

[00:39:35] Daniel: Easy for sure. 

[00:39:36] Jon: It's, yeah. In a good way. So exhaustingly overdone. Right. But I wish I was that person. Right. I think a coffee food truck would be really cool. 

[00:39:44] Donald: Yeah, 

[00:39:45] Jon: that'd be pretty hard.

But I think I could pull it 

[00:39:49] Donald: off when you what? Just pour overs in. Cold brew, sir. 

[00:39:56] Jon: It's not just that. No, no, no. The plumbing is the [00:40:00] tricky part. Oh, you would wanna find the right place? Yeah, yeah, yeah. Like you would have to call up, like whatever they call 'em, where like food trucks are established. Yeah. 

[00:40:07] Daniel: Gas stations, 

[00:40:09] Jon: no, like, like those, uh, big parking lots where like there's several food trucks.

Mm-hmm. Like to do a proper coffee place. You can't just like, have it parked right. Randomly. Like you need to know if there's gonna be like a plumbing line hookup. Right. So then you would have to like, go to wherever those food truck parking lots are. Mm-hmm. Then you have to call the guy that like, runs.

It's like, Hey, do you have plumbing? Yeah. But it has to be in this plot. In this plot. And it's Right. It's hassle. It's interesting. That makes sense. Not that I've thought about it before. 

[00:40:36] Donald: No, this is just all off the dome, right? Yeah. All off the dome. I feel like 

[00:40:39] Daniel: that though. You wouldn't even need a truck.

You can just do like a cart, coffee cart. I've 

[00:40:43] Donald: thought about that. Just do that 

[00:40:43] Daniel: in your neighborhood. Just compete with, with cloud walking. Just be some, just compete with some friends. 

[00:40:49] Jon: Kathryn and I are thinking about doing this, uh, thing, uh, where we're gonna have friends invited to be over at our home and we're gonna do like a very fae, like [00:41:00] everything's a buck.

[00:41:00] Daniel: Yeah. I like that. I like that idea. Meaning mini coffee shop in-house. Coffee shop. Yep. Curfew 

[00:41:08] Donald: cur. Oh, I love it. Yeah. 

[00:41:11] Daniel: I really want to hate it, but I don't, 

[00:41:14] Donald: I can't. 

[00:41:14] Daniel: I'm like mad that I like it. 

[00:41:17] Jon: I told Ka it should be friends only. 

[00:41:19] Daniel: That's the name. 

[00:41:20] Jon: I said, I wish it was. Oh. She's like, we're not doing that. Only friends.

[00:41:25] Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[00:41:26] Jon: Oh, like, no, we're not doing that. There's like, I 

[00:41:29] Daniel: love the idea of like a tiny, like, I would never wanna run a bar because I don't wanna work full stop. But, um, yep. But like, I, I see tiny places, like little spots, and I just think of like, that would be an amazing place with like a six person bar top that you have like six really great draft lines and just like a tiny little bar with an outdoor area people can stand, but just like, you can't just come in here and hang.

Like you can hang out if you want, but there's like no bar space. It basically like a Japanese stall effectively. So, so, you know [00:42:00] 

[00:42:00] Jon: the, the parking lot across the street from the Tribune, like, uh, between the Montessori, uh, Montessori, what is it? Yeah. That, that's a Montessori school. Riverside 

[00:42:10] Donald: Montessori. 

[00:42:11] Jon: So that parking lot, there was a guard station that I thought would be dope for a coffee mm-hmm.

For a micro shop. And I actually was like trying to figure out who I should talk to, who would know it. But then by that time I'm like, all right, I think I'm actually gonna do the research on this. Yeah. Got torn down. Oh no. And it would've been perfect. Yeah. For a micro shop. Mm-hmm. Yeah. No, I'm with you.

[00:42:31] Daniel: Like, I think about that for a bar, like there's, when I see tiny spots, there's a tiny spot, uh, at the corner of Hill and LaSalle that me and John looked at at one time for Oh yeah. Possible welfare recording space. Like that would be a good spot. That's almost bigger than I would even want for like a tiny bar.

[00:42:47] Donald: Oh, I like, I would want like, the backyard would be perfect too. So Yeah. I'm thinking of like the rum village in. Like they have like 12 

[00:42:55] Daniel: spots. Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. 

[00:42:57] Donald: But like right in the middle of a neighborhood. 

[00:42:59] Jon: Yeah. [00:43:00] There's a hotel room that you turn into a bar. Surprise. Those people pulled that off too.

In the middle of a neighborhood. There's like four 

[00:43:07] Donald: in that area. 

[00:43:08] Jon: Really? 

[00:43:09] Donald: Yeah. Wow. There's like a few more down. I just know the Inn, there's the Inn and then there's one right next to the icebox and then there's two more down Prairie. Weird. 

[00:43:20] Daniel: There's a over on the west side there. Friendly confines. I know it was kind of down off western there.

Mm-hmm. And it is like a neighborhood Cubs bar basically. Yeah. Like I wish this was in my neighborhood. Yeah. Like I would, like, I've got one bar within walking distance and I wouldn't be caught dead there. So 

[00:43:33] Donald: I like, I've thought about walking to the Rum Village and haven't, just haven't done it yet.

[00:43:38] Daniel: Mm-hmm. 

[00:43:39] Donald: It'd be like once I break that glass. 

[00:43:41] Daniel: Right. 

[00:43:42] Donald: There's no going back. No, 

[00:43:44] Daniel: true. So still, sorry. I had written this down about the movie, something I think of about it. Is that So? Yeah, the movie. The movie. The movie that we were talking about. I think this is a, like one of the, I don't know. I feel like this is something that doesn't happen a ton where like, I think this is better than the first one and [00:44:00] I think it is one of the few sequel, you know, of sequels that are better than the original movie.

I like this one better. 

[00:44:06] Donald: Mm-hmm. 

[00:44:06] Daniel: It goes into the hallowed halls of like D two, the Mighty Ducks. 

[00:44:10] Donald: Amen. 

[00:44:11] Jon: That 

[00:44:11] Daniel: is a better movie. I think D two is better than Mighty Ducks. Agreed. I'm sure. 

[00:44:15] Jon: Nephews just watched that, seen 

[00:44:16] Daniel: that movie like 30,000 times probably. It's 

[00:44:18] Jon: amazing. Yep. So good. 

[00:44:19] Daniel: Um, but yeah, it just, I like it.

I mean, it's, I don't know if it's whatever, somebody could watch it and say they liked the first one better and I wouldn't argue with them, but I, I personally like this one better than the 

[00:44:29] Donald: first one. That's a trilogy. We should do Mighty Ducks. The Mighty Ducks. The Mighty Ducks. That'd be fun. 

[00:44:34] Daniel: Yeah, of course.

Yeah, definitely. Right after Avatar. The third one's coming out this winter. You're not wrong. Fire Nash. 

[00:44:44] Jon: Mm. Hop in that volcano baby. Pocahontas, the sequel. Yeah, of course. Moana. Now we're doing Moana. 

[00:44:51] Daniel: We can, I mean this, when did Moana come out? I don't know. 

[00:44:55] Jon: Basically Lord of the rinks as well. 

[00:44:59] Daniel: Yeah, I could see 

[00:44:59] Jon: that.[00:45:00] 

It is gotta throw in the volcano, 

[00:45:04] Daniel: right? 

[00:45:04] Jon: Yeah. 

[00:45:05] Daniel: All right. Gotta throw Moana in the volcano. She the ring. I want to, she's basically Smeal. 

[00:45:09] Jon: Yeah, sheiks. The rock is all right. Road trip. Chaos. The crew hits the road trading stories, teasing each other and trying to rediscover their groove like the emperor along the way.

They stop at parties, bars in drag shows, experimenting with new routines and fighting inspiration. Each dancer confronts personal insecurities about aging. Relevance in what comes next after stripping It's male 

[00:45:35] Donald: entertainment. Adults, 

[00:45:38] Daniel: adult male entertainers. Yeah, of course. Yes. They're not strippers. I'm not strippers.

I mean, we're strippers. Right.

Something I really like about, like these, like you were just mentioning, they go to the drag club and stuff. How in this movie, I don't know if these were criticisms from the first one. I doubt it, but it's something I think of where it's just like, just like [00:46:00] dudes dance, straight dudes mostly white dancing in one place, and now it's like expanding upon that.

We like talk, like doing other dance cultures mm-hmm. And whatnot, where it's like we're going to a drag club where there's like a voguing contest that they participate in. Again, going back to them being like non-toxic masculinity. Mm-hmm. We're just like, Hey, we're in this drag club and we're gonna dance with them too.

It's not like we're too cool for that or anything. Or those people dancing like that are weird. Yeah. It's like they're part of it. They're doing 

[00:46:27] Donald: it. And, and Fluffy went all in. 

[00:46:30] Daniel: He, yeah, he was there. He was, uh, Carmen Miranda. Full stop for sure. He was doing it. Definitely. And it's, yeah. I mean, we'll get into it more, but it's like they, they go through multiple dance cultures mm-hmm.

Throughout this movie. 

[00:46:43] Donald: Mm-hmm. 

[00:46:44] Daniel: But it's, it's in, I love that part of 

[00:46:46] Donald: it. It's like, step up one and a half. 

[00:46:48] Daniel: Right. Yeah. I mean, and I think that's part of it where we, we will get into it more for sure. Where they do like, meet up with some, uh, diverse cast, but like they, uh, you know, it's like, I [00:47:00] don't know, maybe it's just, uh, Channing Tatum himself and Magic Mike by three product proxy.

Yeah. Yeah. By proxy of this is that it's like he does a lot of like. More hip hop style dancing in the first one. And I mean obviously he kind of got popular from like Step Up, which is one of his first like big movies where he had a starring role and it was like, that was pretty much all hip hop dancing.

And he's like, now it's like, cool, I have this culture of this dance and now I wanna like, like I obviously borrowed this culture from other people and now I like now they're in this movie too and it's really cool. 

[00:47:30] Jon: Yeah. 

[00:47:32] Daniel: John, your thoughts? 

[00:47:34] Jon: No, I think you, I don't think I could have said it as like particular as that, but I do think it was really cool to kind of see I enjoyed the drag queen, the drag stuff?

[00:47:44] Daniel: Yeah. 

[00:47:45] Jon: Quite a bit. 'cause it was kind of like first movie adjacent where it's like same vibe as like what the first movie kind of like established, but it's just different still. Mm-hmm. So it's familiar but still kind of like show, like [00:48:00] introducing you to a more broad, it's oddly world building. Yeah, I was about say 

[00:48:06] Donald: they.

[00:48:07] Jon: That's what I was trying to say. Yeah. Build it out for sure. Thank you. And this is like the entry point of that. Yes. Because it's similar to the first movie and it's the first thing that they see that you see as a viewer that is. Growing onto that world. Yeah. Right. I think that's a really good way of putting it.

Thank you. 

[00:48:23] Daniel: Yeah. And it shows, it's like the community, the dance community, the adult entertainment community or whatever. Yeah. Where it's like, it's the, these guys aren't just the kings of Tampa. Like they've been around other places. Yeah. And like a lot, they know lots of other people. Yeah. And also they're, they're not just like loved by the lonely women of Tampa.

[00:48:41] Jon: Yeah. 

[00:48:41] Daniel: They have like, respect with other dancers in other parts of the country 

[00:48:46] Jon: Yeah. Who have different ways of approaching different demographics. For sure. Kinda like when Donald Glover's character is like, I just wanna know like, what this person is looking for. Like, why are you here? Right. As [00:49:00] opposed to just assuming that it's lonely women seeking, we wanna get 

[00:49:04] Daniel: ground bits.

[00:49:06] Jon: Yeah. Because they're not because they're not at home though. Yeah, exactly. So. Exactly. Is it, is it ground 

[00:49:10] Donald: or is it grinded? 

[00:49:12] Daniel: gRED. Gr. 

[00:49:14] Donald: There we go. gRED 

[00:49:16] Daniel: gr. It's, it's French. It's Grandis

French Chili. Must be Italian. Must be Italian. Air horn. I think it's time for another beer. Oh, thank you. Um, not that one as usual. With six, almost six movies. None the classic or episodes. We go through these beers and I, I like to select the order in a way. That's good. And this one I actually selected because it reminds me a lot of, um.

John's proclivity is this one is lumber sexual from aar. You know me 

[00:49:49] Jon: so well. Especially where it's from. Yeah. Rar xd. Yeah, exactly. Or no, what is it? Xx Rar xx Post hardcore mypac scene. 

[00:49:58] Daniel: Yeah. [00:50:00] Wo 

[00:50:01] Jon: carefully too soon. 

[00:50:03] Donald: Wait, wait. Is, wait Is, is there like, is there like six or seven beers We're gonna drink. 

[00:50:11] Jon: Oh yeah.

'cause you got the bonus one too. 

[00:50:12] Donald: Six, seven. Oh, 

[00:50:16] Daniel: I was thinking of, uh, this is a struggle right now. 

[00:50:21] Donald: We're off the rails, folks. 

[00:50:22] Daniel: Like, I wanna break this can in half, but I, I might have the strength to from my anger right now. Just, just rip a can in half. Rip it. Just uh, so we were drinking lumber sexual from raw.

Stop that. Um, if I could read this 'cause I have terrible eyesight in the dark now. This is an American double IPA with citra. Sorry. It's uh, they spelled it incorrectly. It's C-T-I-R-A, I can't say it. 

[00:50:47] none: C 

[00:50:48] Daniel: sitar. Uh, Lotus and moga hop some more Moga. This one is 8%. So a proper, honestly 

[00:50:55] Jon: like nine outta 10 of those things is very much so me.

[00:50:58] Daniel: It sounds good. Yeah. I'm 

[00:50:59] Jon: [00:51:00] excited for it. Citra lumberjack. 

[00:51:03] Daniel: We know what we're doing 

[00:51:04] Jon: here. 8%. Yeah. 

[00:51:08] Daniel: Yeah, definitely. That's one that honestly, look at that stash. The dude on the can stashing it up for sure. 

[00:51:14] Jon: Yeah. So today I got a haircut. It looks good, by the way, and my beard is like starting to fill out a little bit more.

'cause usually I do like buzz except the mustache part. 

[00:51:26] Donald: Mm-hmm. 

[00:51:27] Jon: And so today when I like, got close to my daughter's person, she like took her hands and like just grabbed both. Oh geez. And her nails got into my chin. 

[00:51:38] Donald: Mm. 

[00:51:38] Jon: But I'm like, I don't know how to pull away right now, because she's just that strong.

And so Kath, when she took a break from like prepping dinner, she's like walked out and she's like, what are you doing? I'm like, I can't move. She will not let go. She has 

[00:51:52] Donald: a vice grip. No. Uh, Wesley will just like grab a handful of my beard and, uh, [00:52:00] I love it. I think it's so funny 

[00:52:01] Jon: because they're just like, I have you.

Yes. Well, and 

[00:52:04] Daniel: there's, you can't like scream at them or anything. You don't want to like, do anything to upset them. No, I'm just 

[00:52:09] Jon: like, let go. Please let go 

[00:52:11] Daniel: no matter what pain you're in. 

[00:52:12] Donald: Luckily I can just like, it's long enough that I could just like slide his hand off of my beard at this point. So 

[00:52:20] Daniel: stay greasy enough.

[00:52:21] Donald: Yeah, stay 

[00:52:23] Jon: greasy my friend.

[00:52:28] Donald: The mo, the world's most griest be. 

[00:52:30] Daniel: Similar to, you know, when I have children, um, my cats will do a similar thing where sometimes if I'm holding them and they'll get, something will happen. Caitlyn turn on, the other nails will just go in here. Sure. Caitlin. Turn on the blow dryer or something. All of a sudden it'll just be like, into my body and I just like want to scream, but I know they, it'll just go deeper.

They'll do it harder if I do that. So I have to be like kid off me, just like slowly pick the nails out of your body. Yeah. And yeah, I've got plenty of scars. So, you know, it's all just hardcore cat stuff. Hardcore. Hardcore, definitely. I'm deep in the hardcore scene and by, in the hardcore scene, I mean a pet [00:53:00] cats and they get scared.

[00:53:02] Donald: All right, so furries. 

[00:53:04] Daniel: Yes. Wow. Back to that. Yeah. Rounding it back. All right. So the sex comes after, not during

[00:53:13] Jon: I got him. Uh, John, 

[00:53:17] Daniel: your take. 

[00:53:19] Jon: No comment. New friends and inspiration. Sorry. Can I talk 

[00:53:21] Daniel: about, can we talk about this beer really quick? Oh yeah, sure. I think it's really good. Did you try it? 

[00:53:23] Jon: No, not yet. 

[00:53:24] Daniel: It's surprising like way better than the last one. This can smell it from here. Way better than the last one.

I like this. It definitely hits like 

[00:53:30] Jon: pineapple. 

[00:53:30] Daniel: I'm kind of sick of hazy. I think a lot of people are in general, so when I have one that's actually really good, it like really hits hard. And I think this one's like pretty heavy hitter for just like a drinkable hazy that tastes actually good. 

[00:53:43] Jon: It really does remind me of like a pineapple shake.

Mm-hmm. Of sorts. Mm-hmm. Yeah. I was not expecting this.

[00:53:52] Daniel: The silence, because we love it. It's very delicious. I 

[00:53:54] Jon: do like 

[00:53:55] Donald: it. 

[00:53:55] Daniel: It's very good. Sorry to cut in, but I just wanted hear. I like the middle. 

[00:53:59] Donald: I like the [00:54:00] middle and the back more than the front. Mm-hmm. Like I think the last one had a better front. This has a better middle and back. 

[00:54:06] Daniel: Mm-hmm. It finishes Really?

Yeah. It finishes really nice. 

[00:54:08] Donald: Yeah. It finishes nice. Mm-hmm. It's kind 

[00:54:09] Daniel: of got like a little, 

[00:54:11] Donald: like a softer power feel. 

[00:54:12] Daniel: Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. For sure. 

[00:54:14] Donald: It's like you're overstaying your welcome and I'm okay with it. 

[00:54:18] Daniel: It's sticking around. I don't really mind. 

[00:54:20] Donald: Yeah, it's a vibe. Yeah. I'm like, 

[00:54:22] Daniel: I'll 

[00:54:22] Donald: cook you breakfast in the 

[00:54:23] Daniel: morning.

It's 1:00 AM and I'm like, let's one more round of fusion frenzy. Let's do 

[00:54:28] Jon: Yes.

[00:54:32] Daniel: Twisted system. Let's go. 

[00:54:34] Jon: Fusion Frenzy was so good. 

[00:54:36] Daniel: We, I, I played 

[00:54:37] Jon: so much of that on New Year's. Okay. 

[00:54:39] Daniel: You'll, 

[00:54:39] Jon: when I was a kid, 

[00:54:40] Daniel: I, I played so since this was when I was in college, this was like the very, the advent of PS threes had just came out, so no one had 'em. So pretty much we, everybody in our house, we just had like five, me and four other roommates, we had an Xbox on the main tv, that's all.

We had regular Xbox and we had Fusion Frenzy and a few of the game. We played so [00:55:00] much Fusion frenzy. This is not like a, and playing Golden Eye was on in college, that's the thing. But it was like so much fusion frenzy, such a good game. 

[00:55:06] Jon: I feel like everyone had their thing in, in college. Like mine was Halo, ODST.

Right. That was like all my unit played. Oh yeah. 

[00:55:14] Daniel: Yeah. It. Which isn't even like the 

[00:55:15] Jon: popular one. No. 

[00:55:17] Daniel: But I've heard, I've, I know the people who love ODST. Really? It's love o. It's good. Like it's where, to the point that I'm like, I bet it's a good game. I'm not going back and playing it. But I've heard a lot of people be like, it's really good.

[00:55:25] Jon: Yeah. I feel like it's what multi, it's like the half step for multiplayer where Halo three's multiplayer was like, the girls pretty great. Yeah. That's the gold standard. Mm-hmm. Yes. This was like taking it and just refining it. It's like it's not better. Right. Necessarily. It's just the newest one that's out.

Right. And so there's a couple of tweaks and you appreciate it a little bit more for that. 

[00:55:47] Daniel: I think Fusion Frenzy got overlooked a lot because everybody was like, Mario party. Mario party, this is my party game. And I'm like, fusion Frenzy is a much better game because you don't have to deal with the stupid dice rolling.

Yeah. And all like collecting stars and stuff and like you win the mini game, you [00:56:00] win the game. Yeah. Like if you win the most mini games, you win. 

[00:56:03] Donald: Yeah, that makes sense. 

[00:56:04] Daniel: You're not gonna get your stars stolen by a ghost. And your friend who's a jerk. 

[00:56:07] Donald: Yeah. But that's why you have the golden pipe. 

[00:56:11] Daniel: Yeah baby. I always got the Golden Pipe.

[00:56:16] Jon: John. New friends and inspirations. Mike Encounters Zoe. A Free Encounters Zoe Amber. Heard, heard, heard, heard it. A free spirited, definitely free spirited photographer who challenges him to think beyond performance. The guys reconnect with Rome. A club owner played by Jada Pink. Good Smith, who helps them refine their stage personas.

They also meet new allies, like a group of strong self-assured women who encourage them to celebrate body positivity and confidence as well On the Amber Heard thing, just the actress, not the character. So she's fine. 

[00:56:57] Daniel: I think she's a good actress. 

[00:56:58] Jon: I just think she's a [00:57:00] goofball. 

[00:57:00] Daniel: She is. I think she's good in this movie.

She's, I thought she was 

[00:57:02] Donald: really good. Like I was surprised that it was her. Like I think I really liked her character. Yeah. 

[00:57:06] Daniel: I was just kinda like, is that, I was like, yeah, like I think she's good in this movie. Like I don't, I haven't seen a ton of movies with her, I guess, but I was just like, she's good in this movie.

Yeah. I don't know. Like I, yeah, I, I thought she was solid. I love, I was 

[00:57:16] Jon: just dwelling on the actress. That's all. 

[00:57:18] Daniel: Of course, I understand. She's, I get, 

[00:57:20] Donald: yeah, she's goofy. I loved the gas station strip tee scene. 

[00:57:28] Jon: Yes, yes. 

[00:57:29] Daniel: That, that 

[00:57:29] Jon: is, that was funny. Okay. That was 

[00:57:30] Donald: great 

[00:57:31] Jon: because I was so curious how she was gonna respond.

I'm like, got it. 

[00:57:35] Daniel: That is the scene. Before I saw any Magic Mike movie, anything like that, I saw somebody like posted that scene on Twitter or something and I watched it and that got me to watch Magic Mike and this one. Yeah. 'cause I, I saw that scene. I'm like, these movies are not what I think they are.

And that scene I think is, I don't know, I wanna say one of the best scenes in a movie, but it is very fun scene of just like, it's, everyone's having fun. 

[00:57:57] Donald: It's a great scene. 

[00:57:58] Daniel: Yeah, 

[00:57:59] Donald: I agree. [00:58:00] 

[00:58:00] Daniel: It's just like you could, yeah. I feel like you could show someone that, and if they're not, you know, if they can get over the hole.

Man taking off a shirt and dancing aspect of it. It's very, 

[00:58:10] Jon: which is the point of it? 

[00:58:11] Daniel: It is talent. I'm just kidding. It's funny. And everyone is having a good ass time. Yeah. Well, 

[00:58:16] Donald: choreographed 

[00:58:16] Daniel: all of his friends, cheering him on outside, having a blast. It's so good. 

[00:58:21] Donald: Yes. 

[00:58:22] Daniel: Go watch the gas station scene. I'm sure it's on YouTube, 

[00:58:24] Donald: honest.

Not that you do fantasy football, but that would, to recreate that scene would be a great fantasy football punishment. True.

[00:58:36] Daniel: Yeah. Do that to one of the, one of the people who in a gas station around here, 

[00:58:41] Donald: you gotta be really careful which gas station you do at it. 

[00:58:43] Daniel: It would just truly ignore you. Yeah. It would just be behind the glass ignoring you. We 

[00:58:47] Jon: could do it at the mobile by the post office because the owner's seen it all.

That's true. You're like, cool. 

[00:58:54] Daniel: Yeah. 

[00:58:54] Jon: So did the guy last week saw 

[00:58:55] Donald: better 

[00:58:56] Daniel: last week? Yeah, 

[00:58:56] Donald: exactly. 

[00:58:58] Jon: Seen enough to give you grade. You were expecting 

[00:58:59] Donald: a discount. [00:59:00] Yep. Right. But, uh, I found it really surprising that Andy McDowell was like, Zoe's mom. Like Andy McDowell's a great actress. Yeah. Uh, and she's in Groundhog Day.

Oh yeah. Um, just great. 

[00:59:17] Daniel: She ground a hog, that's for sure. So, something that I wanna say too about, uh, her 

[00:59:21] Donald: hog got gr 

[00:59:23] Daniel: his hog got, I mean, glass, glass slipper. That's all we can say. Yeah. Grande. Yeah. Like, and the, uh. Yes. To go back to the Savannah Strip, uh, strip club they went to, ran by Rome, ran by Jada Pinkett Smith.

Like that I think is awesome. Scene. Just showing different, like different cultural scene and also Michael Strahan. Yeah, 

[00:59:44] Donald: I was No way. 

[00:59:46] Daniel: Yes. When I saw him, I'm like, when I watched it, I would just watch it two nights ago as a reminder just to like refresh myself on everything. I was just like, I totally forgot he was in this and it's so good.

Yeah. Where it's like Donald Glover obviously 'cause he's in it a little more too. But just that one scene. Michael Strahan, just like, [01:00:00] what got him to do this. Just awesome. Just threw some oil 

[01:00:02] Jon: on his chest and Yes. Picking up the lady and, yeah. Awesome. 

[01:00:07] Daniel: Yeah. Whistling through his teeth at her. 

[01:00:09] Jon: Yeah. Yep. 

[01:00:11] Daniel: Also, I didn't, I, I had to look it up after 'cause it was like the, the like the third gentleman who's dancing in that scene.

Mm-hmm. 'cause there's like three different dances. He's Ellen's DJ from the Ellen DeGeneres show. 

[01:00:22] Donald: Twitch. 

[01:00:23] Daniel: Yeah. Oh 

[01:00:23] Donald: yeah. So I thought it was Twitch. So he got, because I don't 

[01:00:26] Daniel: recognize him, so 

[01:00:27] Donald: he got discovered on So you think you could dance. Right. And he like, he became like this fan favorite obviously. And then mm-hmm.

Went on to Ellen and has since passed. 

[01:00:37] Daniel: Yeah. Well he was friends, which is really sad. Friends with Channing Tatum I guess. Or they at least knew each other. 'cause I think Channing Tatum did some producing on Step Up two and that's where Twitch first was like in StepUp two and maybe three. Yes. He was in some of those StepUp movies.

But I was just like, oh, that's who that is. Because I knew, I was like, this has to be a very famous dancer Yes. Of some sort. 

[01:00:54] Donald: I, yeah. 

[01:00:57] Daniel: Let the dogs out. 

[01:00:58] Jon: I was about to say [01:01:00] like, which one is it cats or dogs? 

[01:01:04] Donald: No. Um, but Twitch did a really, really good job in this movie. 

[01:01:09] Daniel: Mm-hmm. I think he's, I think he is on like, I think, I don't think, no.

Like definitely chaining Tatum Magic Mike is the best dancer of his crew and Twitch is definitely the best dancer of his crew for just like, of dance talent. 

[01:01:25] none: Yes, 

[01:01:26] Daniel: for sure. He's the like, it just tearing it up and that's why we'll get to it later. I'll let John go into it, but that's why they team up eventually.

But 

[01:01:32] Jon: yeah. I can just go on on the next section. So the big convention at the Myrtle Beach Stripper Convention, the crew debuts new routines tailored to their personalities. Each member of the Kings has a chance to shine from acrobatics to comedy to pure charisma. Mike caps the performance with a daring intimate dance routine with Zoe watching symbolizing his rediscovered passion and self-expression.

[01:01:58] Daniel: The mirror routine was awesome. 

[01:01:59] Jon: The [01:02:00] mirror was incredible. 

[01:02:01] Daniel: Yeah. 

[01:02:01] Donald: Mm-hmm. Like, whoa. 

[01:02:04] Daniel: Such a, again, him and Twitch just doing basically the exact same moves. Yeah. In the opposite order or whatever. And really, really, 

[01:02:10] Jon: I can imagine how long that took to practice. Like outside of Yeah. Clearly 

[01:02:13] Daniel: a day. According to the movie, we got it.

The conventions tomorrow we gotta, we gotta do this. 

[01:02:20] Jon: That would take like a good, strong week. 

[01:02:24] Daniel: I think people who do dance. Have, I'm sure there's like ways for them Yeah. To study it and, yeah. Or they just like, when, you know, when you're not focused like you or I would be like, it's like jazz. Yeah. Like you or I would be focused on like how to do the move.

But since they already know to do the moves, they're like, okay, we're doing a roundhouse and then we're doing that into a front flip and then we're gonna pile drive the girl into the chair and it's like, like, like they just have like a list of the things going on. But it's still undertakers. Yeah, exactly.

Exactly. Tombstone pile driver. We're doing this. 

[01:02:55] Jon: No, they probably do, they're, they probably do say like this into that. Right. And then finish off with this on. Yeah. [01:03:00] 

[01:03:00] Daniel: This beat hits. Yeah. We're now doing Yeah, yeah. On 

[01:03:02] Jon: count. This totally right. 

[01:03:05] Daniel: Yeah. It just, I don't know, it's not that I dance insanely great cap off for the movie.

Can you dance 

[01:03:10] Donald: like physically, like with your hip? Like can you dance? 

[01:03:15] Daniel: He can dance like the kid in Forrest Gump. Forrest Gump Or like 

[01:03:18] Donald: hitch, like this is your home

[01:03:23] Daniel: doing hitch. I, 

[01:03:24] Donald: I do not date. 

[01:03:24] Daniel: Yeah, I have. Okay. Yeah. 

[01:03:26] none: Adding it to the 

[01:03:27] Jon: list furiously. No, I have definitely doing a hitch. No, a dating coach can't. Date is Hitch. We're doing Hitch now. Will Smith. Great movie. Yeah. No, it's awesome. Yes. Uh, now that we count that off the table. Q-tip. Q-tip. Q-tip. Throw it off.

Yeah. Um, what was I gonna say? I don't remember now. I don't dance to begin with, so I don't know. 

[01:03:54] Donald: Okay. 

[01:03:55] Jon: That's not surprising. Yeah, I just don't, weddings [01:04:00] are very contentious between me and my wife because she wants to go on the dance floor and I'm like, no. 

[01:04:06] Daniel: I keep, she goes to how many goddamn hardcore shows with you?

Actually, she probably doesn't go to many Zero, but yeah, she lets you go to the, 

[01:04:13] Jon: she does think it'd be fun, but it's like, nah, I don't really want to go if it's like you and your friend and Right. For sure. The whole thing. So got one this Friday. Yes. You do. 

[01:04:24] Donald: Yep. 

[01:04:25] Jon: Um, tomorrow, as of this recording, no, no. Last Friday.

Yes. 

[01:04:32] Daniel: When? This Friday. As of 

[01:04:33] Jon: this release. When this recording release is last Friday. Last Friday night. 

[01:04:36] Daniel: No, not show. John went to the hardcore show then. I 

[01:04:38] Jon: don't know. It's like Lady Perry, 

[01:04:41] Daniel: appreciate that. Sorry, I forgot you hated uh, pop music. Sorry. You find pop music repetitive now. I'm gonna go to a hardcore show, please.

Yeah, not repetitive. Um, something I did wanna note about when, sorry to go back to the scene when they're with the rich white ladies. Thank you. Um, when they go to the, when they're going and, uh, that's all you [01:05:00] had to say. When Mike and Zoe are going to pick out wines and they pull out the bottle like, oh, 1959 Chateau LA Feet roster.

I was like, oh, good. Like that's a $3,000 bottle of wine. Like it's a very, like, that is a highly sought after French wine that is like amongst wine people. It's like very, 

[01:05:14] Jon: yeah. Did you look that up or did you know that? 

[01:05:16] Daniel: I knew it was in the thousands. 'cause I know at Citywide, right, there's, we have one, but it's not that vintage and it's like 1200.

Oh, okay. Yeah. So I knew, I was like, but I know the 59 of that is a very specific, highly sought after vintage. 

[01:05:29] Donald: Really? And, and I'm sure Amber heard had a mega pin of it. 

[01:05:35] Daniel: Johnny Depp had a, he had 12 bottles of it. I'm sure. He drank a case of ice and there was a jar 

[01:05:39] Jon: with like dust in it, white dust in it. You ever seen that meme?

Yes. I love 

[01:05:44] Donald: that meme. I'm the cuts ice. I'm sure. I'm sure it was found it. I'm sure it was cocaine. I have a job to guess what's inside it. 

[01:05:55] Jon: Cocaine. 

[01:05:55] Daniel: Cocaine. 

[01:05:56] Jon: Okay. Cocaine, 

[01:05:58] Daniel: caca. All right. [01:06:00] Uh, move on. Yeah, let's move on to another beer. Sweet. So next one we're drinking. This one is from Transient Artisan A.

Haven't heard anything from the m in a while. This one is my Sacrifice Sangria. This is a gluten-free sour ale with Cabernet souvignon, grape blood, orange, apple and lemon juice with cinnamon added. This sounds 

[01:06:19] Jon: phenomenal. Yeah, it sounds wild. Yes. 

[01:06:21] Daniel: I, 

[01:06:22] Jon: I'm stoked. Yes. 

[01:06:24] Daniel: I just, I was, I looked at the can originally.

I was like, SI don't really care. And then I started reading it and I'm like, okay, this sounds like fun. 

[01:06:30] Jon: Um, I trust anything they would make though. True. Even if it wasn't like a hit, like, I'm glad I tried that. Right. Same here. Yeah.

We're going, we're pouring it. Everyone. Is Donald's taking a while? That looks good. 

[01:06:48] Daniel: Mm-hmm. Smells good. You get a, like whatever you're wanting to get, at least on the nose. 'cause it's got, what is it? Graham, cracker, whatever it says on the end there. Cinnamon something, cinnamon added. Okay. Yeah. [01:07:00] 

[01:07:00] Donald: That, that, that, you're right.

That's like right on the nose. Yeah. It sounds like a fruit pie. It's like, it's like almost a crust. Mm-hmm. 

[01:07:05] Daniel: Yeah. Exactly. That's what I pictured when I saw like fruit and cinnamon. I'm like, cool. This is very fall as an okie after birth. 

[01:07:13] Jon: Yes, exactly. I always, I always have to say that. Did you 

[01:07:16] Donald: say after birth?

[01:07:18] Jon: That's the joke. It's, it's funny now because we're explaining it. 

[01:07:24] Donald: And then you found $5. 

[01:07:25] Jon: Mm-hmm. This is 

[01:07:27] Daniel: fire. This is, I don't know. I feel like the fruit stuff is, this is sometimes hit or miss. Like sometimes their fruits, oh my god, this 

[01:07:33] Jon: is good. 

[01:07:34] Daniel: Sometimes their fruit stuff I feel like gets a little dry and like doesn't come through.

But this is like the sweetness on this. It's a killer. 

[01:07:39] Jon: It's still dry. Like it has like a drier finish. But you could crush this so fast. Yeah. This, this is like gives, I think the dryness is from the cinnamon. It's not even like a natural dryness. Right. 

[01:07:48] Donald: This gives pie like, I like it's liquid pie. 

[01:07:53] Jon: Talk about American pie.

[01:07:54] Daniel: That's what's gonna be at the beginning of this episode. The teaser. This gives pie. [01:08:00] Hello everybody and welcome to

[01:08:05] none: this Gives Pie.

[01:08:09] Jon: It is very good. He'll help baby. Yeah, this is good. I'm gonna savor this one. Yeah, for a bit. It's pretty 

[01:08:13] Donald: fire. Um. Anything to add or do you wanna move on? I just, I, we at the con we're not at the convention yet, right? 

[01:08:22] Daniel: Oh, baby. We're we were just talking about the convention. At the convention. We just finished it.

[01:08:24] Donald: Okay. No, no more for you. 

[01:08:26] Daniel: Keep talking about the convention. 

[01:08:27] Donald: I thought Eli Elizabeth Banks hosting the convention was wild. Kill her, 

[01:08:31] Daniel: Elizabeth Banks. She was great. 

[01:08:32] Donald: She did so good. 

[01:08:34] Daniel: I'll take her in anything we can. 

[01:08:35] Donald: She is a great actress, especially as someone who like, as like a side character who does a lot of commentary.

I'm thinking Hunger Games, I'm thinking Pitch Perfect, right? Incredible. 

[01:08:46] Jon: Mm-hmm. Isn't this about the same time Hunger Games? No. 

[01:08:49] Daniel: Probably ish. I mean, this came on 2015. Probably around the same time. Something like that. Before, 

[01:08:53] Jon: yeah, before. If not the first, then the sequel. 

[01:08:56] Donald: No, uh, 25th. You're gonna, you're in between Catching Fire and Mocking [01:09:00] J part one.

[01:09:00] Daniel: Is it? Okay? 

[01:09:01] Donald: Yeah. 

[01:09:02] Daniel: Okay. John, you're in between Catching Fire and Marking J Part One. Surprising. No one, just so you know. 

[01:09:08] Donald: Surprise. No one Catching. I think Catching Fire is probably the best movie in that series. 

[01:09:13] Daniel: I read all the books, but I've only seen the first movie. I think. 

[01:09:16] Donald: Uh, I do recommend watching a Ballad of Songbirds and Snakes.

That's a really good movie. 

[01:09:22] Daniel: Was that a Game of Thrones? 

[01:09:23] Donald: No. No. That's the prequel. I have read 

[01:09:26] Jon: none, and I have watched One Game 

[01:09:29] Daniel: of Thrones. 

[01:09:30] Donald: Oh, the Hunger Games. Hunger Games, same thing. I read one and I watched them all. 

[01:09:35] Daniel: I worked at a credit union and when I was in college and like all summer. Mm-hmm. And we were usually pretty slow, so I just read a ton of like, books I read, like all the Twilight books, all the Hunger Games books.

Just 'cause I needed stuff that I could like pick up and read. That wasn't deep because I'd get a customer walk up. So I didn't wanna be thinking of something like, have to really intensely pay attention. So I just went through a ton of pop stuff. But Hunger Games, they're, I mean, they're Pageturners for sure.

Okay. They're good. But yeah. Oh, here we go. Ballad of [01:10:00] Songbirds and Snakes. Interesting. 

[01:10:02] Donald: It's, it's really good. Um, 

[01:10:05] Daniel: I believe it. Is this the one that started as Wait, no, that was 50 Shades. 50 Shades was Twilight Fanfic. Yes. Right. Okay. Yes. And then the Running Man was Hunger Games. Fanfic, the New Hunger. The New Running Man.

[01:10:24] Donald: Uh, the Running Man is originally I know. Okay. 

[01:10:28] Jon: Don't make 

[01:10:28] Daniel: me go down 

[01:10:28] Jon: that tire. No, that's a, that's a rabbit hole. 

[01:10:31] Daniel: We're going down that hole. Speaking of holes, John, what's going? 

[01:10:33] Jon: Yeah, so speaking of Holes, a Trium Farewell Male Entertainment Convention is the conclusion. So the kings leave the stage victorious, having performed the best show of their lives.

Instead of regret, they embraced the joy of the moment and the friendships that carried them there. Friendships along the way. So it's one piece. It wasn't the, it wasn't the, it wasn't the destination. [01:11:00] It the journey. This is 

[01:11:00] Donald: right. This is male stripper one piece. 

[01:11:02] Jon: Yeah. Mike finds closure knowing he can move forward without losing the part of him that made him magic.

Correct. 

[01:11:11] Donald: Aw, yeah. I appreciate that. Yeah. I love Tarzan's Heartfelt moment before they go on stage with Mike. For sure. I think that was probably my favorite like indi individual moment with Mike as they're on this Yeah. Farewell journey. That one I thought was, what about Jane? I 

[01:11:32] Jon: Tarzan, 

[01:11:34] Donald: Jane, I thought you were going like Gi I Jane with Jada Pickett Smith.

No. And I wasn't sure. No, no, 

[01:11:39] Daniel: no. I'm trying to get slapped. I don't want Chris Rock to slap me. You're trying to get, according to Judd Apatow almost killed by Will Smith. 'cause he slaps you. It's gonna happen. Watch out. 

[01:11:51] Jon: How'd you slap this movie? Uh, classic. Classic or flacid? Classic. It's 

[01:11:55] Daniel: classic for sure, baby.

[01:11:57] Jon: Yeah. I'd say classic. Yeah. 

[01:11:58] Daniel: I love the ending. How I think the ending is. 

[01:11:59] Jon: Awesome. [01:12:00] How would you, how would you rate it? 

[01:12:01] Daniel: Um, 

[01:12:02] Jon: I, it's a classic, but how classic is it? Yeah. 

[01:12:05] Daniel: John's getting away from the, from the standards of the show right now. 

[01:12:11] Donald: Uh, I think I've give it an eight. Um, I really appreciate appreciates it.

I appreciates it. There Again, for a movie like this, your intentions to it, there's really great storytelling. Uh, slice of Life. It's not, it's an ensemble cast character study. Like every person has their moment. Totally. Their moment. Like we said, um, the people that they bring in, like we didn't even talk about how talented Donald Glover is in this movie.

[01:12:39] Jon: Yeah. With like, this is when he was starting to see a stride too, as like just an all around 

[01:12:45] Daniel: this is right around the time he lost community. 

[01:12:47] Jon: Yeah. Right. 

[01:12:48] Daniel: And he just, C Gambino 

[01:12:49] Jon: really started to take off, right? Yeah. Yeah. Um, this was before, this is America. Yeah, yeah, yeah, 

[01:12:54] Donald: yeah. 

[01:12:55] Jon: Yeah. So he's still getting there.

[01:12:58] Donald: Before Atlanta just started, I think too, before [01:13:00] his comedy special. 

[01:13:01] Daniel: Yeah. This is like, I think around the time that second, the second Childish Gambino album came out. Mm-hmm. Something like that. I think the first one was like 2011. 

[01:13:08] Donald: Mm-hmm. But 

[01:13:10] Daniel: yeah, it, yeah, we didn't even talk about him and he's like so many good things in this movie that we haven't even talked about.

Really? Yeah. It's just like he's so good in it that it was like, felt like an afterthought. We just like, oh yeah, he's great. But like, but he's also, I dunno, it seems he's in it more. I wanted to talk about Strahan, because that's a crazy thing. 'cause it's like, oh, he's not usually an actor or whatever. No.

But he does awesome. And then Twitch, who's not usually an actor, but he does crazy dancing. And then Donald Glover's like the side note, who does incredibly in this. 

[01:13:34] Jon: Yeah. Like, he was subtle too, but I mean, like you would I was engrossed in the scene. Oh yeah, definitely. The scene he was in 

[01:13:41] Donald: and like him singing over those dances.

Mm-hmm. I'm like Donald Glover singing. Uh, marry you. Was not what I was expecting, but it was so good. 

[01:13:55] none: Right. 

[01:13:55] Donald: Like, I'm not saying like he did it better than Bruno Mars, but [01:14:00] he did a really, really good job. Mm-hmm. But also, if you're in Vegas, go see Bo Bruno Mars. Help him get back. Even 

[01:14:08] Daniel: go. Was he at the sphere?

[01:14:10] Donald: Uh, no. He's like, that's Wizard of Oz right now. Oh, okay. Have you, uh, have you heard that story? No. About what happened? Uh, so Bruno Mars like, lost all this like, money at a casino, guys, I can't pay you. And so instead he signed a contract to do like this ridiculously long residency in Vegas. Jesus. And that's why we haven't, that's why he hasn't toured, that's why he hasn't done an album.

Really? Because he owes so much money to this casino. Geez. That he has like, he's like an indentured servant. I've never heard this before. Vegas. Yeah, no. Uh, there's this gamble, like, there's this like, uh, gambling you like YouTuber influencer. Um, and he did an interview with Burt Reiser and he talks about it.

[01:14:56] Daniel: That's crazy. 'cause I mean, he, he's a, you know, [01:15:00] maybe one of the, probably the top three musical artists of the last decade, right. I would say of like, money grossed. How does he, how much money did he have to lose? 

[01:15:08] Donald: It was like, to get 

[01:15:09] Daniel: to that, 

[01:15:10] Donald: it was like, it was like 70 500 million. Yeah. I would say it was bad.

It was bad, but I. Like, I, I can attest, like I went to Vegas, uh, two years ago and he was doing like five shows a week. 

[01:15:29] Daniel: He's doing like, uh, he's like Michael Jordan in Space Jam when it's like in uh 

[01:15:35] Jon: Oh, the Slave thing? Yes. Yeah. It's like in when they're doing that like, uh, makeup like scenario. 

[01:15:39] Daniel: Yes, exactly.

It was like Danny DeVito who's like dream sequence or whatever, where he's like, yeah, 

[01:15:46] Donald: like he, and you'll lose every time. Like he's our, like, he's like probably the closest thing to our generation's, Michael. And he's just stuck in Vegas. 

[01:15:53] Jon: Yeah. Yeah. He actually went the bad route. 

[01:15:55] Donald: Yeah. Yeah. He like, he, he's a, he's an incredibly [01:16:00] talented mu musical artist that went to Vegas and did not come out on top.

[01:16:04] Daniel: Right. 

[01:16:05] Donald: That's 

[01:16:05] Jon: what you get for waking 

[01:16:06] Donald: up in Vegas. 

[01:16:06] Daniel: I mean, Michael, speaking of Michael Jordan, like he's smart enough to nobody. I quoted Katie Perry and nobody caught it. I wasn't listening. What'd you say? Last Friday night? 

[01:16:19] Jon: That's what you get for waking up in Vegas. Okay. Yeah. Come on. 

[01:16:23] Donald: I don't know that song.

You know, that joke was a firework. 

[01:16:26] Jon: That's not the point. The point is, is that I don't like pop music and I quoted a pop song. 

[01:16:31] Daniel: I just didn't get the reference. 'cause I don't know that song. 

[01:16:34] Jon: So ironic. I feel so dumb right now. 

[01:16:36] Daniel: John is a deep cut Katy Perry 

[01:16:38] Donald: person. Do you only listen to, like, like are you like a hipster Katy Perry person?

Like you'll only listen to the Nons singles? No, I listened to, no, 

[01:16:46] Jon: no. I listened to Kate Hudson. Katie Hudson. Okay. You're right. Excuse me. I know. Okay. And she was a Christian singer. True. I only trust that. And she dated Math Theon from Lion. Kay. Of course. 

[01:16:56] Donald: Yeah. Did you ship them hard? 

[01:16:57] Jon: I, I stopped when she started [01:17:00] Kissing Girls and she liked it.

That wast had to be a tough time. I liked the Screamo version of that song though. I'd be, you Pop, pop Punk 

[01:17:07] Donald: is probably your favorite genre. I do like Pop Ghost crunk 

[01:17:10] Jon: as 

[01:17:10] Donald: well. Oh, okay. Yep. 

[01:17:13] Jon: Not even kidding. 

[01:17:14] Daniel: Right now. I, I 

[01:17:14] Donald: know you're not. 

[01:17:15] Daniel: I know I'm taking deep breaths right now. No, that's great. I'm glad for you.

I'm glad you, how would you write this movie? How, maybe, 

[01:17:24] Donald: oh, hold on. Can I, can I tell you Dan's writing, he's gonna give it a 10. Outta 10 because he stands for everything that he brings on the show. 

[01:17:30] Daniel: I would never bring a lust than 10 on show. So it's flacid. It's fla, I mean it's a Flacid 10. Do wha yo 

[01:17:38] Donald: talk about showing?

[01:17:39] Jon: No, no. It was so classic that you end up flacid. 

[01:17:42] Daniel: This is like a Yeah, this is, this is like it. This is, you know, it's it, this movie goes so hard. It's flacid, but it like just got out. You got wore out so fast. It's flacid, but it just got outta the shower. Like this is like, this is a 10 for sure. Like I, yeah, I, this is this movie.

[01:18:00] I, yeah. Watching it again even so good. Really enjoyed it. Again, just reiterated everything I thought about it before. 

[01:18:06] none: Yeah. 

[01:18:06] Daniel: Just they're just having a good time doing some dancing in between. Yeah. Just having fun with your friends. Makes you wanna go on a road trip 

[01:18:13] Donald: It, I was gonna say like, this makes me wanna take a road trip with the boys.

Like getting the semantics 

[01:18:17] Daniel: right 

[01:18:18] Donald: now. Let's go right now. 

[01:18:20] Daniel: The Redneck Riviera hit it. Hit the road. 

[01:18:23] Donald: So Myrtle Beach or Branson. 

[01:18:26] Daniel: Do I wanna do show tunes or have someone call me the N word even though I'm white? I don't know. Take your picture. 

[01:18:34] Donald: Not wrong. You're no there, no, no notes. 

[01:18:38] Daniel: I mean, that could happen in Branson too, but right now could happen anywhere.

True. Like, sir, you got too much of a tan there. You're gonna have to come with us. Get in this van. This 

[01:18:49] Jon: unmarked van. 

[01:18:50] Daniel: Yeah. Get in this truck. We're not involved with ice. Get in this truck. Just, just sit right here. 

[01:18:56] Jon: Takes off the jacket. Ice [01:19:00] spelled EIS 

[01:19:01] Donald: like what is going on? There was this, uh, real I saw of this guy.

He bought an ice, like Halloween costume. Mm-hmm. And he would walk or go walk around. Home Depot 

[01:19:15] Daniel: sounds fun to do. Racist jokes at Home Depot. Sounds like a good time for people. I think they're gonna say 

[01:19:19] Jon: Hobby Lobby, but. Nothing would happen there. 

[01:19:22] Daniel: They'd be like, they would all feel a standing 

[01:19:24] Donald: ovation hobby.

Yeah. They'd feel really, they're like, they feel really safe. Especially with like Chick-fil-A in hand. 

[01:19:30] Jon: Yeah, 

[01:19:30] Daniel: exactly. You 

[01:19:32] Jon: go 

[01:19:32] Daniel: to Hobby 

[01:19:32] Jon: Lobby. No. Everyone at Hobby Lobby would say, thank you for your service. Exactly. 

[01:19:36] Donald: Give 'em the military 

[01:19:36] none: discount. 

[01:19:38] Daniel: Can you help us figure out how to, uh, how to steal more, uh, artifacts out of former Mesopotamian countries or something like that.

[01:19:48] Jon: So my neighbor, can you, uh, help me out with him? 

[01:19:50] Daniel: Right? Yeah. I Neighbor flies a flag of something that I don't understand. I think it's a foreign country. Yep. Sir. That's Israel. Oh, [01:20:00] okay. We're good. We're good. We're friends. We're good. Oh, no, we're good now. We love it. 

[01:20:03] none: Whew. All 

[01:20:04] Jon: right. So, 

[01:20:05] none: uh, on that 

[01:20:05] Jon: note, I'll give it a, I'll give it an eight outta 10.

Okay. It's very classic. Yeah. Yes. I think it's impressive for me too, that you really don't need to even see the first one. True, true. Enjoy this one. It's true. Like, I think that speaks to a lot of how well done it actually is. Um, like you really don't need any context. Right. I think the background too, from Mike as to like, how, like how he got to where he is at the beginning of this movie is pretty well spoken through script, where it's like, again, you don't 

[01:20:35] Donald: need the first movie.

You really do love a movie that shows that doesn't and doesn't tell. I do. And that's, and I feel like this movie does it well. 

[01:20:45] Daniel: Mm-hmm. Agree. You could say you love a show or not a grower. Could you, could you speak to that? 

[01:20:51] Jon: It's the lazy ones you gotta worry about though. They're lazy. Yeah. It'll happen.

Yeah. All right. So [01:21:00] production. Do you wanna do another one or are we, 

[01:21:03] Daniel: yeah, let's crack can, yeah. Good production note. John. Yeah. Thank you for Thank you. Thank you for helping me out. This one sounded fun too. Hopefully it's not, not a let down after the laster. 'cause the last one was so good. But this one I put it in this order 'cause I couldn't tell.

But the last one is pretty fire. This one is Raar as well. Rar Ra ra. Ooh. This is that night in Key West. This is, uh, beer American sour brewed with key limes. Speaking of Tampa marshmallows, graham crackers and vene. Ooh, 

[01:21:31] Jon: this does sound really good. Yes. 

[01:21:34] Daniel: This hits all the buttons for me because I've definitely had 

[01:21:37] Jon: Sounds like a lemon meringue pie.

[01:21:40] Daniel: That noise Donald made. 

[01:21:41] Jon: Yep. 

[01:21:43] Daniel: You sound like a lemon Merin. A lot of 

[01:21:45] Jon: cream on top. Burnt. Burnt. Poor Donald. Donald 

[01:21:50] Daniel: broiled that baby up. Whew. Threw that in the oven. Boiled it slightly too long. Yeah.

You know, I accidentally, how else did 

[01:21:59] Jon: [01:22:00] Wesley get here? 

[01:22:00] Daniel: Let me turn this into a good thing. Thank you. Please save us. So, so if you guys make it s'mores, do you guys like, like burnt marshmallows or just like, do you just like barely, 

[01:22:09] Donald: uh, like what, what's your level of personal? It's uh, it's brown all around.

[01:22:14] Daniel: Okay. 

[01:22:15] Donald: Nice and toasted. 

[01:22:15] Daniel: Okay. For sure, for sure. Yeah. 

[01:22:17] Donald: I'm, I'm not putting like a poopy diaper. 

[01:22:19] Daniel: Okay. 

[01:22:20] Donald: I'm a, I'm, I'm a smore. 

[01:22:22] Daniel: See, 

[01:22:22] Donald: I wouldn't do that to anybody. 

[01:22:23] Daniel: I like to light it on fire and just like let it sit. Like, John, what are your thoughts? 

[01:22:28] Jon: So I, I like a slow even cook and then torch it. 

[01:22:37] none: So what's the point?

[01:22:39] Jon: Because you're slow cooking it with char on the outside. 

[01:22:41] Daniel: Low and slow. 

[01:22:42] Jon: Low and slow. Char is a flavor and you're getting all the nice even cook beforehand, 

[01:22:49] Donald: right? So it's like baking it and then like flash frying it. 

[01:22:58] Jon: Why are you so offended by this? '[01:23:00] 

[01:23:02] Donald: cause you get the, it's called a reverse s result. It's called a reverse sear.

Yeah. But you get the same result if you just do Dan's method and it's way faster. 

[01:23:10] Daniel: Mine's kinda left with like a little chewy, gummy bear of a marshmallow in the middle. So you kind of, uh, you know, who knows what's gonna happen. 

[01:23:18] Donald: Might choke. Yeah, he's 

[01:23:18] Daniel: kind 

[01:23:18] Donald: of cream pie in the middle there, 

[01:23:20] Jon: baby. Here's the real question joke on that Hershey, Hershey chocolate bar or something else.

Reese's peanut butter cups. See? Yes. See, I just recently heard Yes. And John did the most 

[01:23:32] Daniel: manly thing we've ever done together. Right Now 

[01:23:34] Donald: I recently heard about the Reese's Cup. I, we've done 

[01:23:37] Jon: over a hundred episodes before this never fist bumped. Hey, John, 

[01:23:40] none: have never fi We 

[01:23:40] Donald: agreed on 

[01:23:41] none: the 

[01:23:41] Jon: majority of things.

We've never fist bumped before, but we did over Reese's peanut butter. Yeah. On. 

[01:23:46] Donald: But to be fair, up until this setup, you guys have never sat in that close. True. 

[01:23:51] Daniel: That's true. You guys have a table between us. 

[01:23:53] Jon: Yeah. Gotta keep That's true. When we did pre-production for six Pints, you're on one side of the island.

I was on the other side [01:24:00] of the island. 

[01:24:01] Daniel: Yeah. We gotta keep, uh, keep it at bay. 

[01:24:02] Jon: Yeah. COVID does that to a person. Right. 

[01:24:07] Donald: So, uh, I never heard of that until moving here of putting a Reese's on it and I've actually yet to try it. 

[01:24:16] Daniel: Score bar. Score bar is good too. Did you get that toffee in there? The toffee in between the things?

Mm-hmm. 

[01:24:21] Jon: One thing I've tried this, that's a, I'm not a big TikTok trend person mm-hmm But I did see on Onik TikTok. TikTok,

[01:24:31] Donald: that's a Kesha song. That's not Katy Perry. 

[01:24:34] Jon: Um, but you take the chocolate, whatever, Reese, Reese's peanut butter cup, whatever mm-hmm. Put in jet puff and like mix it first and then toast it. 

[01:24:46] Daniel: Oh nice. Toast it with it in. Okay. 

[01:24:49] Donald: Yeah. 

[01:24:50] Daniel: I like that better. 'cause it doesn't slide off. Yep. Gotcha. 

[01:24:53] Donald: Have you guys seen, uh, air fryer, s'mores?

[01:24:56] Daniel: No. 

[01:24:57] Donald: Mm-hmm. Do tell. Just make [01:25:00] you just air fry more. You just, you just put, you just like layer everything except for the top graham cracker. So it's graham cracker chocolate marshmallow, and you air fry it. Gotcha. 

[01:25:10] Daniel: That sounds good. 

[01:25:10] Donald: Yeah, 

[01:25:11] Daniel: do that. So I say all this to say I accidentally made like a good burnt s'more pie.

It was a smore pie I was making for a Thanksgiving where it was like you do pie crust and then you do like a chocolate pudding inside of it. Oh. And then you do marshmallows on top of it, and then you broil it and I accidentally broiled it too much and it just like lit on fire in my oven. So that was fun.

Took it out, blew it out. But it ended up being very good. 'cause that's the way I like my smores. All that to say that. 

[01:25:36] Donald: But that sounds like the champagne discovery of s'more pies. It was 

[01:25:41] Daniel: pretty good. It was an accident, but I mean, I would try to do it more like fancy, like now with, you know, try to actually burn it with a butane torch or something.

Yeah. Crack pipe, whatever. But 

[01:25:50] Jon: this beer also tastes like champagne, by the way. 

[01:25:53] Daniel: It's very good. 

[01:25:54] Jon: Yes. I like it a lot. I like the last 

[01:25:55] Daniel: one better, I think. But this one's still very good. 

[01:25:57] Donald: Yeah. I, I do appreciate [01:26:00] the flavor profile. This 

[01:26:01] Jon: is a 

[01:26:01] Donald: very close, is that what you appreciates 

[01:26:03] Daniel: about it? 

[01:26:04] Jon: Yes. Ever get attentions to it?

[01:26:09] Donald: I, I like the, I like the attentions page to the vanillas. 

[01:26:15] none: All right. It's good. I like it. 

[01:26:17] Jon: Letter Kenny. 

[01:26:19] Daniel: Classic. 

[01:26:19] Jon: Classic. You still haven't shorie. Alright. I was gonna say same every time 

[01:26:24] Daniel: we talk about I, alright. I've watched Shorie, you still have know di 

[01:26:26] Donald: didn't we, didn't we shake on? What did I have to, did I have to play Persona or did I have to, uh, watch Severance before you would watch Shorie?

I forget which one it was, but it was one of the two, 

[01:26:40] Jon: I think it was Persona. 

[01:26:41] Donald: Okay, I'm going, I'm gonna speed run this game just so that you could watch yours. You cannot do that. The 

[01:26:46] Daniel: challenge 

[01:26:47] Donald: except 

[01:26:47] Daniel: speed run of persona is like 50 hours probably. Still. 

[01:26:52] Jon: It's, 

[01:26:52] Daniel: I'm like, that's like main question. I got time.

[01:26:54] Jon: You got a, you got a little over a week's, a work week's worth [01:27:00] of persona. 

[01:27:01] Daniel: John's gonna watch 40, 20 minute episodes of a show. 

[01:27:05] Donald: I 

[01:27:05] Jon: think 

[01:27:05] Donald: I'm okay. 

[01:27:06] Daniel: It's great. But, uh, 

[01:27:07] Donald: it, yeah, it's like eight actually 18, 20 minute episodes. Yeah. I'm okay of a show. I 

[01:27:12] Jon: got time. 

[01:27:14] Donald: Oh, of course. 

[01:27:14] Jon: All right, so production details on Magic Mike, XXL development and Direction.

The idea of a sequel was first floated by Channing Tatum via Twitter in 2012. He said they were quote unquote working on the concept now and wanted it to be bigger than the original. Hence the name. 

[01:27:34] Daniel: Oh, 

[01:27:34] Jon: I'm assuming 

[01:27:36] Daniel: Double xl, not just an XL X 

[01:27:37] Jon: XL double X. Yeah, that's the size I wear. No, I wear xls. I was like, no, you don't.

No, I don't. I 

[01:27:43] Donald: I was gonna say like, who, who wears 'em anymore? 

[01:27:46] Jon: I actually do wear an XXL different brand though. 

[01:27:50] Donald: Oh, I was talking about, uh, uh, go on the condiments. Like who wear 

[01:27:58] Jon: Gregory Jacob who had [01:28:00] been first assistant director on Magic. Mike was tapped in March, 2014 to direct Magic Mike. XXL. Steven Denberg, who directed the first film, stayed involved in behind the scene roles, cinematographer, editor under pseudonyms, et cetera.

Script and tone shifts, the sequel leans more into the road trip, vibe, camaraderie, spectacle, and less into the origin slash discovery narrative of the first film. Reid, Carolyn wrote the screenplay. 

[01:28:27] Daniel: You know, it's funny to me you were saying that, oh, sorry. I'll, I'll note this real quick. No, you're good.

It's please. It feels very soderberg. Honestly, I totally forgot the Soderberg didn't do this one because I was watching it and I like, there are definitely like tells that it is, that it does feel very soderberg ian. Like there's a couple different shots that you're like, this is it. Like there's a one specific shot that I remember that as I was watching it last night that.

When they're arriving at the stripper convention. Mm-hmm. And it's a shot of the like convention center sign that it shows. Mm-hmm. And it's a slow [01:29:00] pull out. And then the, then their cars like come into the parking lot. Like that is a very soderberg shot where it's like Yeah. Focuses on something, pulls out and then you start to see more of the scene happening.

Yeah. Like that is Soderberg. Like you can picture that scene in like Oceans 11. I was, it happened a bunch of times. Yeah. I was thinking that exact same big, like the establishing 

[01:29:16] Jon: shot and then it kind of keeps moving as opposed to cut. 

[01:29:19] Daniel: Right. Exactly. Yeah. A lot of music too. I feel like a lot of the music they use is very like, I mean maybe they use the same music, um, 

[01:29:25] Jon: kind of more as like part of the establishing like, here's the tone that you're about to approach.

Exactly. Yeah. Like, 

[01:29:30] Daniel: I don't know, whatever. I don't, I think it's a song they used in the first one as well, and I wish I knew what the song name was, but it's Pony. I wish, I wish they did pony more on this. It's, it's sad, but No, it's like when they're setting up, when like they showed the DJ and they're like getting everything set up for the final thing.

It's like I, it's one of those songs that's like in Indie Electro Group or something. Something that was probably like very popular in 2009 or 10. 

[01:29:56] Donald: Right. But 

[01:29:57] Daniel: it's like, I forget what it is, but it's a song that as soon as you hear it, you're [01:30:00] just like that. Okay. Yes. I a hundred percent know that song. I don't know who did it.

I don't know what it is, but it's like, I've heard that song a thousand times. 

[01:30:05] Donald: Definition of a one in 

[01:30:06] Daniel: thousand movies. But it's great. Yes. And it's like, it just sets up the whole scene where it just pumps you up for like, this is about to go down, they're about to be the best dance thing. They are not, uh, they're gonna beat the guys who are doing twilight stuff.

[01:30:19] Jon: Like Paramore, 

[01:30:19] Daniel: the Twilight Strippers. Yeah, of course. Yeah. Twilight Strippers, 

[01:30:22] Jon: not Paramore. 

[01:30:23] Daniel: Yeah. 

[01:30:23] Jon: I thought you were talking about the music. 

[01:30:25] Daniel: I thought I was, but then I, yeah. Then, uh, 

[01:30:27] Donald: wasn't like my chemical romance involved in making twilight happen. Like, have you heard that chain of events? Mm-hmm. Nope.

Remind me to tell you about it later. 

[01:30:38] Daniel: Okay. This movie was My Chemical Bromance, John. 

[01:30:41] Jon: Yeah. A lot of bromance cast changes and addition several cast members from the original Magic Mike did not return. Matt McConaughey, Alex Pettifer, Cody Horn. Their absence meant the sequel focused more on Mike and the remaining kings of Tampa, plus new characters.[01:31:00] 

New cast members included a Jada Pinkett Smith in a role originally written for someone else. Elizabeth Banks. Amber heard Andy McDowell, Donald Glover. Michael Strahan. There was some role casting flexibility. Pinkett Smith, uh, reportedly took a role. Um, already talked about that. The casting, some of these notes are redundant.

I'm realizing the casting aimed to diversify an expanding ensemble. 

[01:31:31] Daniel: Cast ruled. I thought the cast was off. I, I just, 

[01:31:33] Donald: yeah, I couldn't, I couldn't agree more. Like I, I'm not always the hugest fan of Jada Pickett Smith, but when she's good, she's really, really good. Mm-hmm. Like she. W was phenomenal in this role.

I also saw like glimpses of Will Smith in, in this role. Like when she kept saying what, [01:32:00] uh, in the, uh, when she's like hyping up at, in the finale dancing, I'm like, you got that from Will, that's DJ Jazzy Jeff right there. 

[01:32:11] Daniel: She did, I mean, yeah, she was on her matrix reloaded for sure. 

[01:32:16] Jon: It's true. Yes. Filming locations and details.

Filming locations and filming locations and details. Not editing that out. No, you're not. Thank you.

I do want to edit 95 minutes. 

[01:32:31] Daniel: I mean, I'm gonna listen to the whole thing again to make sure I didn't say anything stupid, 

[01:32:34] Jon: but there's definitely a lot that you can probably edit out like this. Uh, filming began in August 31st, 2014 in Myrtle Beach, Southern California. That's not true. South Carolina. You can keep that in my brain's on autopilot right now.

[01:32:51] Daniel: Myrtle Beach, just outside of San Jose. 

[01:32:52] Jon: Yeah. Naturally we're back to the future thing. Notably the Pier Airport base, et [01:33:00] cetera. Other filming locations, Savannah, Georgia, Tybee Island, Jekyll Island, various clubs, et cetera. A large number of extras were used for convention scenes. Between 300 and 900 women extras per day during parts of the convention sequence alone.

[01:33:17] Daniel: That's awesome. I mean, just for, that's gotta be fun just for those women to go just be like, Hey, do you wanna come watch Famous People's Trip? Like for a movie, like, Hey, we're gonna pay you whatever the day rate for an extra is. A hundred bucks. Something like that. Nothing crazy. Wanna see 

[01:33:29] Jon: more physically of Matt Bower.

[01:33:31] Daniel: Right, exactly. I was looking, 'cause I was like, did he pop off in between Magic Mike one and two so that he got a bigger role in the second one and I was looking at his IM DB and whatnot and Not really, no, they just gave him bigger role. He was just a 

[01:33:43] Jon: TV guy because he was already kind of 

[01:33:44] Daniel: popular from white collar when the first one came out.

[01:33:48] Jon: Yeah. Like because he, yeah, he was kinda establishing his, uh, stardom Right. With uh, Chuck, which it wasn't even that big of a role. And then white Collar, which was [01:34:00] I think after 

[01:34:02] Daniel: it was like oh nine, I think oh eight or oh nine, 

[01:34:04] Jon: I was gonna say, or kind of like ran alongside Magic Mike won. 

[01:34:07] Daniel: Yeah. 

[01:34:08] Jon: And then that's when he kind of got bigger, so he got more screen time with Chuck when he came back.

And then he kind of flipped flopped around a little bit between like 2008 and 2014. I did not 

[01:34:19] Donald: put together that he was, it's Bryce 

[01:34:23] Jon: Larkin. 

[01:34:24] Donald: I didn't put together that. That's Bryce Kins. Bryce Larkin, yeah. Yeah. It's crazy. Wow. 

[01:34:31] Jon: Yeah, it's one of his, uh, other identities for the CIA. Right. 

[01:34:36] Donald: Honestly, 

[01:34:36] Jon: male stripper.

Good cover. Makes sense. 

[01:34:41] Daniel: In plain sight. 

[01:34:42] Jon: And 

[01:34:42] Daniel: so co not enough cover. 

[01:34:45] Jon: So overt, it's covert 

[01:34:47] Daniel: vert. So covert, it's brot vert operations, 

[01:34:51] Jon: very flacid, all so technical and cinematography. The cinematography was done by quote unquote Peter Andrews, [01:35:00] Steven Denberg, uh, editing, likewise credited under a pseudonym.

Maryanne Bernard, which is also Sodaberg Alias. 

[01:35:06] Daniel: Is it interesting? Is it really? Allegedly, allegedly, 

[01:35:09] Jon: allegedly shot digitally Magic Mike X XL used red, epic Dragon cameras, hawk series lenses, et cetera, et cetera. Costume. Yeah. Spit on that thing. Spit 

[01:35:19] Daniel: on that camera lens,

[01:35:24] Jon: and then spend another $1,400 on just the lens. And it's probably way more than that. Those red cameras I've heard are insane nuts, costume, choreography, design, et cetera. Costume design tried to be character driven, even within a stripper culture setting, which basically means are you not wearing a shirt or are you, if you're wearing a shirt, 

[01:35:46] Donald: what would your, what color is your G-string fair?

[01:35:51] Daniel: These guys wore all normal thongs, not gt strings. I have to say that. 

[01:35:57] Donald: Hold on, I'm gonna ask the [01:36:00] dumb question. What's the difference? What is the difference between a thong and a gtr? The G 

[01:36:05] Daniel: is just like, where it's like, just like a piece of fabric. It's not like, like the, the ones they wear is more like bikini style, just with the cheeks off basically.

Sure. Where there's still like, you know, you still have like minor cheek coverage, but the G is like, there's like nothing, like, it's basically just like holding the shit together. 

[01:36:23] Donald: Like, it's like it's in, like that's the one that's like up the crack, like, yeah. Okay. Like 

[01:36:28] Daniel: this one. Like there, there's definitely some, like, some like skin cover, some like glute coverage on these, like, like minor 

[01:36:36] Donald: for sure.

I, I genuinely did not know the difference 

[01:36:40] Daniel: until now. You know, they made it like, why isn't this being put on like NBC commercials? Right. The more you know, like difference between like bikini style, bikini brief G-string. Another one. 

[01:36:51] Jon: I'm just familiar with it for playing bass guitar. That's all I know it 

[01:36:55] Daniel: for.

Shut it down. [01:37:00] 

[01:37:00] Donald: You, you just have too many experiences walking that g-string. 

[01:37:05] Jon: I play with it yesterday 

[01:37:07] Daniel: walking in Gstr at church. I was walking all up and down. That's how a lot 

[01:37:13] Jon: of people were watching me do it. The, 

[01:37:14] Daniel: the women watch it and they love it. I'm walking the gstr, 

[01:37:18] Jon: an older lady did come up and say, I really appreciate how you play today.

I was like, you're welcome. Did you see the way I was just 

[01:37:24] Daniel: shredding that G-string 

[01:37:26] Donald: the way, the way I fingered that G-string. I'm actually serious. I know you are. 

[01:37:32] Daniel: What do you call it? When is there a specific word for it? When you, I don't even wanna finish this sentence. 

[01:37:38] Donald: I need you to say, okay, we're on 

[01:37:38] Daniel: some pull offs.

[01:37:40] Donald: I, I mean, I really need you to finish the sentence. 

[01:37:44] Daniel: I'm the 

[01:37:44] Jon: Victor Wooten of G strings. When you, when you, uh, play the next chord up and you don't have to pluck it. 

[01:37:49] Daniel: No. Like I know, I know what you're, I am. When you're, when you're using both your index and your middle finger and you're like alternating, is there a different, is there like, so is that called something?

It's called walking [01:38:00] 

[01:38:00] Donald: like this? I think of, 

[01:38:01] Daniel: I think of walking is when you're like going up the neck. 

[01:38:03] Donald: No, it's 'cause your fingers are, your fingers are walking. 

[01:38:06] Daniel: Okay. 

[01:38:06] Donald: It's walking. It's walking the base. Okay. Okay. I learned that interesting from, I love you man. 

[01:38:12] Daniel: Slap it to bass. 

[01:38:13] Donald: Slap it to bass man. 

[01:38:15] Daniel: Speaking of romance, what do you think, 

[01:38:19] Donald: John, as the, as the true bass player in the room, how do you 

[01:38:21] Jon: feel?

I'm self-taught. I actually dunno. As a string 

[01:38:23] Daniel: walker, 

[01:38:24] Jon: I'm, I'm self-taught. I have no idea. But you're saying makes sense to me though. Thank 

[01:38:28] Donald: you. 

[01:38:30] Daniel: Okay. Thank 

[01:38:30] Jon: you, Dom. 

[01:38:31] Donald: Yeah, it's a, it's a, typically when you're doing like a walking baseline, it's like you're walking up a couple, you're walking a different strings, but it's also just 

[01:38:40] Daniel: Okay.

[01:38:40] Donald: Alternating that way. 

[01:38:41] Daniel: All right. Good. I was wondering. Interesting. The more I know, 

[01:38:47] Donald: right? More, you know, but, but you know, sometimes you're just walking on that G-string and you find the G spot and you just keep it there 

[01:38:55] Daniel: and you just don't play anymore notes 

[01:38:57] Donald: until. You finish, just let it [01:39:00] ring out. Gotta hit that brown.

Note that now that's a shocking ending.

[01:39:11] Jon: Trivia time. 

[01:39:12] Donald: Hold on. We need, yeah, 

[01:39:13] Jon: we need another 

[01:39:14] Donald: beer for trivia, right? 

[01:39:15] Daniel: Let's crack beer number six. What do you think, John? You down to that? Yeah. Let's do one more. This is one that sounded wild. Another I, I felt like I did, this is pretty fruit heavy for what I normally do, but I just, yeah, it just, usually 

[01:39:28] Jon: that's my job on the, on six pints.

[01:39:30] Donald: Alright, you, you did a fruit heavy beer selection while three guys are talking about magic Mike XXL. What are you doing to us? 

[01:39:36] Jon: It's all 

[01:39:36] Daniel: fruit heavy. 

[01:39:36] Jon: Actually I kinda like that parallel intended or not. That works really well for me. I'm down 

[01:39:44] Daniel: break out those mangoes. So this is 

[01:39:46] Jon: for, uh, for the, for the last one in the series.

We should do like sangrias or like just different fruit sangrias. 

[01:39:54] Daniel: Okay. We all make a personal sangria and bring it in. Yeah, mine is just gonna be vodka [01:40:00] and oranges. Um, different gin and tonics. Yeah. So this one's from a brewery. I don't think I've had any, I've heard of them, but I haven't had anything from that before.

Mine's beef eat based John is making a gin based Anglia so bad. Um, this is ARPU eight. Airbus Apus Brewing Company Brew is an orange cherry strawberry, apricot vanilla smoothie. Sour A sounds interesting. 

[01:40:24] Donald: I ain't got no 

[01:40:25] Daniel: sangria. I'm compelled. 

[01:40:27] Donald: I'm 

[01:40:28] Daniel: trying to see where they're from, but I can't tell 'cause I can't read words.

[01:40:31] Donald: This episode is off the rails. 

[01:40:33] Daniel: This episode is brought to you by ah, beer's opening. 

[01:40:41] Jon: Oh, is a fruity pour? 

[01:40:44] Daniel: Yes sir. This is. That's every pour that I do, sir. 

[01:40:48] Jon: Pinky out. Yeah. 

[01:40:51] none: Pinky 

[01:40:51] Daniel: out. 

[01:40:53] none: Pinky, pinky. I need it. I need it. 

[01:40:59] Daniel: What are we referencing? [01:41:00] SpongeBob. SpongeBob. 

[01:41:00] Jon: Oh, 

[01:41:02] Donald: the going into Sandy Cheek, SpongeBob Romance.

[01:41:04] Daniel: It was after my time 

[01:41:06] Donald: going into Sandy Cheeks as dome. 

[01:41:08] Jon: Mm. Good deal. Here we go. So we're gonna call this magic trivia, but bigger,

[01:41:18] Daniel: bigger, longer uncircumcised. 

[01:41:20] Jon: Yep. Gotta clean out a little extra. Hey 

[01:41:23] Daniel: man. 

[01:41:24] Jon: Don't want that fungus. Better for the pleasure. Yeah. Matthew McConaughey was in talks to reprise his character role of Dallas for the sequel, but talks fell through because of financial reasons. According to the studio, since winning his academy award, for best actor in Dallas Fires Club 2013, McConaughey's pay rate has had increased, which is a tactical proce procedure for an actor to capitalize on his claims success.

Da, da, da. Sure. Like 

[01:41:53] Daniel: makes sense. 

[01:41:54] Jon: You're more famous, 

[01:41:55] Daniel: right? 

[01:41:55] Jon: You want Yeah, 

[01:41:56] Daniel: you want your quote. I get it. 

[01:41:57] Jon: Whatever. This led to the [01:42:00] studio opting to out of the option of bringing him back. 

[01:42:05] Daniel: I think the movie was better for it. 

[01:42:06] Jon: I think 

[01:42:06] Donald: so too, actually. I agree. I 

[01:42:07] Daniel: don't know where he would've fit into this, but I think it 

[01:42:10] Donald: would've been a completely different movie 

[01:42:12] Daniel: because by the end of Magic Bike won, he's pretty toxic.

Right. And I think he just would've like brought the whole thing down. I don't even like the kid, honestly in 

[01:42:18] Jon: Magic Mike, 

[01:42:19] Daniel: so 

[01:42:20] Jon: I don't like Can I just go on to the next trivia bit real quick? Sorry. Sure. Sorry. Alex Pettiford did not return to reprise this role as Adam reports production from Magic. Mike revealed that he and Tatum did not get along.

That's actually, that's why I wanna, that's why I wanna bring it up because 

[01:42:37] Daniel: he's a character who I, sorry, he was annoying just because I watched Magic Mike w this week as well. Just to have like a full, um, you're gonna watch 

[01:42:45] Jon: all three for the next one. Oh, 

[01:42:47] Daniel: for sure. Blu-Ray ultra high def 4K. Of course.

[01:42:52] Jon: Naturally, 

[01:42:53] Daniel: naturally, like I, I love it. I, it's, it's one of the funniest things to me where it's like his character is just like a [01:43:00] slob in the first one who's like, this is somebody who has like. Nothing going for themselves. He's wearing a hoodie. The color that he got it for free as an employee at T-Mobile, like that's the only thing.

He was like, his character got lucky. Yeah, exactly. He's just a dude who's just living life right. Plays right time. He's like on his like sister's couch or whatever and he's still shredded, like he's not like the other guy's level shredded, but he still has like a six pack. Like I've been like concertedly working out pretty decently for the last like year and like I'm nowhere near a six pack.

It, it, it shows by the way. Okay. I'm not trying to call, you know, I'm not trying to get you guys coming just outta the shower for me. I'm just saying that like, it's a lot of hard work to get any kind of muscle like that. Like I feel like I do a lot and it's like nowhere close whatsoever. But I'm saying like you, you have to put in work to do that.

And clearly it's like, I think it's funny, it's like all of these guys are just completely shred, they never show the workout, which that would be boring obviously for a movie. Like, like what, what are you gonna do? But it's fun. It's like these guys are [01:44:00] clearly like two hours a day at least. Oh for sure.

Like Joe Manganello is just like, just everything. Yeah. 

[01:44:06] Donald: You're 

[01:44:07] Daniel: like 

[01:44:07] Donald: in every place 

[01:44:08] Daniel: in the gym two hours a day. Nope. I'm in a food truck doing MDMA. 

[01:44:13] Donald: Me too. Yeah. Yeah. 

[01:44:14] Daniel: Me three. I just think it's silly. Like the fir like I'm just saying, I'm just saying that as a point of like I am trying and I'm nowhere most to that and it's like how much work are like for this person who does literally nothing who seems to be like a deadbeat piece of crap and he still has like an eight pack 

[01:44:31] Jon: right.

It's magic, Mike. It's garbage. That's the magic. 

[01:44:34] Daniel: Mike is MAs. That's the, that's the magic. He's magical, but the kid is not. 

[01:44:37] Donald: Right, right. Agreed. I, I would say going back to the Matthew McConaughey conversation where there was a, like a clear villain in one, there's not really a villain other than time and like life itself.

The villain in this one and the villain is life. 

[01:44:59] Jon: Yeah. No, [01:45:00] it's, that is fair. I don't disagree. 

[01:45:01] Donald: And, and so I agree with what you're saying. Like it would be a completely different movie with Dallas. He's bad vibes. Yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. You're going, you're going to potentially ruin a really good script and ruin a great vibe of a movie.

[01:45:18] Jon: I think you would need a different movie, or Matt, Kanye would just be a throwaway character. Right. Like it's just a lingering thought in the back of Magic Mike's mind of like, this is like, I going for me, or he's still dwelling on his past or whatever, and then he runs into kind of a personification of that.

Well, I, I mean that's like, that already happened in this movie in a way. I don't really know. Right. But I 

[01:45:42] Daniel: feel like he might show up at the end as like a competing him and the kid. Dallas and the kids showing up of rock style Yeah. Show, well show showing up at the end as a competing stripper club. Yeah.

And they all, they have other strippers that they brought So brought So they would be throwaway characters. Yeah. Like they wouldn't be in School of 

[01:45:58] Donald: rock style. Right. [01:46:00] 

[01:46:00] Daniel: Exactly. Because the, 

[01:46:01] Donald: like in School of Rock Neeley's, former band shows up and wins the battle of the bands. True. So, 

[01:46:09] Daniel: but I would, but I, I'm, I'm the simplest simple tune in the world where I'm just like, I just want a happy ending.

This is one of the most happy endings of any movie ever. Like, we're just like, and they had an awesome time. They killed it. And then they watch fireworks credits. Like, like 

[01:46:23] Donald: it'ss. 

[01:46:23] none: It's true. 

[01:46:24] Daniel: It's a good time's, a good ending. Like, I just, I just love a good ending. And this, 

[01:46:28] Donald: it's simple. And, and that's also very soderberg.

Like you think of Oceans 11. 

[01:46:32] Daniel: Yeah. 

[01:46:32] Donald: Like great ending They watch the Bellagio Fountain, which is magical. 

[01:46:38] Daniel: Yeah. 

[01:46:39] Donald: And then they're on their way. 

[01:46:40] Daniel: Yeah. Magic Mike won. Like, Hey, take me out to breakfast. Okay, cool. I really wanna go to this place. All right. Well they open in six hours. What are you doing?

Nothing. I'm not doing anything either. We've got six hours. What do you wanna do? Kiss credits. It's implied. Jesus Christ. It's good. 

[01:46:57] Jon: Implied. It's implied. 

[01:46:59] Daniel: I think they watched [01:47:00] Neon. It says IGEL first six hours. 

[01:47:05] Donald: I'd want a kiss after that. I, I think I'd wanna a hug through an existential crisis. 

[01:47:13] none: We don't wanna go to breakfast anymore.

[01:47:16] Donald: Yep. 

[01:47:17] none: The third impact's happening, 

[01:47:20] Jon: honey. Oh, it's happening. 

[01:47:24] Donald: All right. Th it it, hold on. Is is that, is like you just say there was an impact, like one impact, two impact. Three impact is like the anime version of like a three bump jump. Like, I'm just a third impact guy kind of guy. 

[01:47:40] Jon: How's it good? It's getting sloppy seconds.

Speaking of which, Jamie Fox, what Jada Pinkett Smith's role was originally intended for Jamie Fox, but to her immense surprise, Channing Tatum asked her to take over Jamie's part in the final hours. 

[01:47:57] Daniel: I definitely think 

[01:47:57] Jon: they needed a woman in that role. I totally that just 

[01:47:59] Daniel: to like [01:48:00] run the, the the male cat.

[01:48:01] Jon: It's also like, like, uh, it's also a dynamic type of script writing on the whole Right. That Matthew McConaughey a male leader for one group of people. Jada Pinkett Smith's role for another group. 

[01:48:18] Daniel: Right. 

[01:48:19] Jon: I, I think that's a very compelling way to write a story. For sure. For sure. Especially on a world building standpoint.

Definitely. 

[01:48:24] Donald: I also, well, I love Jamie Fox. Everything that he does, like, I think he's great. Electro great. Oh yeah, he was great. Uh, I watched his like standup special on Netflix and it was pretty solid. But what I loved about Jada Pickett Smith's character. Was the authenticity of being a woman relating to other women about why the male entertainment experience is great.

[01:48:51] Daniel: For sure. 

[01:48:53] Donald: And you don't get that if Jamie Fox is that character. 

[01:48:56] Daniel: Right. Like I, I think Matthew McConaughey for all of [01:49:00] his failures, his character for Dallas' Failures, I think he did treat his clientele respectfully. Yes. In general. Which like, I don't think he was being disrespectful to the women at all, but I think Jada Pinkett brought it another level to that.

[01:49:11] Jon: Agreed. Alright. We've already kind of talked about this, but for the sake of it, first time Steven Sonenberg has been the cinematographer of a film. He didn't direct. Oh, so he was sorry? He was credited. 

[01:49:25] Daniel: Okay. He was, he was 

[01:49:26] Jon: credited and he also had aliases. He was 

[01:49:28] Daniel: cinematographer, but he was, was he dp? 

[01:49:31] Jon: I didn't catch the actual credit for that.

Okay. But he, I mean, you could also say, he all said, you know, the aliases are different, so. 

[01:49:38] Daniel: Right. Okay. No, but the point 

[01:49:39] Jon: is that he did not direct 

[01:49:40] Daniel: Yeah. This, but that makes sense that, that makes more sense. If he had some involvement. I, this was 

[01:49:44] Jon: the first time. Gotcha. Did he 

[01:49:45] Donald: direct the last one? 

[01:49:48] Daniel: The, 

[01:49:49] Donald: we'll find out the last, the final one.

The last dance. 

[01:49:51] Daniel: Yes, he did. Thank you. Came back for that. Yes.

[01:49:57] Jon: Spoiler alert. Margo Robbie turned down the [01:50:00] role of Zoe due to scheduling conflicts with Focus 2015. Amber Heard was later cast. 

[01:50:05] Daniel: She could have been good too. I could see her in that role. Definitely. I, 

[01:50:07] Jon: I think she gives that good scrappy vibe that would be needed. 

[01:50:12] Daniel: I think she would've been good the same way she was good in Babylon, which is weird, but mm-hmm.

I think everyone should watch Babylon for how terrible it is. But I, 

[01:50:21] Donald: I don't know. 'cause there's like a, there's, oddly enough, there's like an innocence to Amber Hood Zoe that like, with like, seeing her in Wolf of Wall Street and what she did in fo with Focus. I might have a little sh like harder time buying mm-hmm.

Than like, 

[01:50:48] Jon: I think this would match more of what Margot Robbie can do than in like Wolf of Wall Street. I think that's a very different vibe. 

[01:50:58] Daniel: I, I think Margot Robbie has too much [01:51:00] like star quality for this. I think, I think Amber Heard is a star, but she's like a second tier star. But Margo Robbie's first tier.

I think it's like, would she, would her, if she was in that role, would she have overshadowed Mike 

[01:51:10] Donald: further? I think sh yes. I do think really, I, 

[01:51:15] Jon: I feel the opposite. 

[01:51:16] Donald: I think Margot Rock, like, I mean even in Once Upon a time in Hollywood, like she's not in it like truthfully like all that much, but her character was just so compelling that like it for sure.

It was like level with Leo's and I think it overtook Brads now. While that was probably intentional with Tarantino, there's something about. How compelling Margot Robbie is that I think she would've overtaken the movie as a whole. Where Amber Heard is just doesn't have that. And so it allows the guys to shine.

And [01:52:00] also objectively Amber Hood is not as attractive as Margo Robbie. 

[01:52:04] Jon: So I feel like for me, Margo Robbie, she just has, I feel like she's distinct because she doesn't fit that cookie cutter like white girl from Hollywood actress type of vibe to me. Like she just has enough of unique features to where she does stand out just naturally it's Australian.

I think that helps. 

[01:52:28] Daniel: Yes, I'm saying that in a good way. 

[01:52:29] Jon: No, honestly, I'm saying that in a good way. I is. Why Icontinue like mildly rough around the edges. I say. Yeah. Or like, um, like Emma Stones looks are a little bit different than what you would say is like categorically whatever I said the, you know, white woman in Hollywood actress, like, she just looks a little different, which is why she stands out from the crowd.

And I feel like Amber heard kind of fits into that mold a bit more. I'd agree. So [01:53:00] that's why I feel like Margot Robbie can fit that, what I said earlier, scrappy vibe because she just looks different enough to where it's like, you know, when she filled the role for Barbie, it's like, I get that. I don't think she would've fit the bill of what I would've expected, because Barbie is supposed to be like the most stereotypical, like, uh, what's the phrase for it?

Neutral, zoned white girl. 

[01:53:25] Donald: Mm-hmm. 

[01:53:25] Jon: And thankfully Margo Robbie, like, is attractive enough to where it's like, it doesn't really matter 'cause she's attractive. And I do think actually her looks are pretty contrasting. Do you know what I'm saying? I know. I, I'm trying to find the right, like no specific words.

No. She's polished enough to be Barbie, but also she has unique enough features to where she can be Right. Sharing. 

[01:53:49] Donald: Yeah. Standing out one upon a time in 

[01:53:50] Daniel: Olive. 

[01:53:50] Donald: Uh, I think what I was trying, I think another thing that I was trying to say is every big role of hers that I think of [01:54:00] is really eccentric. Like Sharon Tate's pretty eccentric.

[01:54:06] Jon: Mm-hmm. 

[01:54:07] Donald: Harley Quinn, 

[01:54:09] Jon: she got crazy eyes. I would, in a good way. 

[01:54:11] Donald: Yeah. Where like this, where Zoe here in this movie is trying to walk away from all that eccentric eccentricity mm-hmm. From her family. Like work it out. The 1959 bottle of Chateau, like 

[01:54:29] none: Right. 

[01:54:30] Donald: That's eccentric. 

[01:54:31] none: Right. 

[01:54:31] Donald: She's trying to walk away from all of that.

And so. It wouldn't, it wouldn't feel as grounding. Whereas Amber Heard, looks like she's trying to walk away from all that. Now that might be costuming and, and, and design that They did a really good job with Amber Heard in this movie for that. I love Margot Robbie. I'm sure she would've done a fantastic job in this movie.

I can't believe I'm saying this, but I think I might actually [01:55:00] prefer Amber heard in the role. 

[01:55:03] Daniel: I think she's good. Yeah. Like I think she's solid in the role for sure. It's a fun time. Yeah, definitely 

[01:55:10] Jon: Got two more trivia bits for you. So the main cast had a great deal of fun apparently at the amateur drag queen dance off in Jacksonville because each dance sequence was improvised.

Nice. Good for them. That's awesome. Allegedly, allegedly 

[01:55:25] Daniel: they did it. They, they and they all did it differently. That was fun to watch too. Or they all like brought their own thing to it or whatever. Totally. And it wasn't like all just someone doing it good than everyone else, copying 

[01:55:35] Donald: or whatever. Yeah. And but they also felt like true to the character.

[01:55:39] Daniel: Mm-hmm. Yeah. 

[01:55:40] Donald: Like 

[01:55:41] Jon: for sure. Which makes sense because they were all 

[01:55:42] Donald: improv 

[01:55:44] Jon: from the hair person. Definitely. Last one Amber Herd's reaction was quite genuine during Chaney Tatum's dance sequence at the end of the film. Prior to the cameras rolling, she was simply told to go with whatever Tatum was doing and follow his instructions during the portions that required them to dance [01:56:00] together as her had no prior dance experience.

Yeah. Interesting. Um, good for her. 

[01:56:10] Daniel: I'd be, I mean, I'd be surprised as her. I think it makes sense. '

[01:56:13] Jon: cause 

[01:56:13] Daniel: Yeah, 

[01:56:13] Jon: he's a professional, right? Yeah, definitely. So, all right, wrapping it up. So the budget was 14 to $15 million budget and the box office was $122 million worldwide. It killed it. Good job. Which is less than the original, but still a commercial hit a 

[01:56:30] Daniel: hundred million profit.

It's kind of a big deal. Well, what, yeah. Say what? What is, yeah. What is a hundred million profit on a $15 million movie? Like, not like hundreds of percentage, eight x or whatever, like Yeah, 

[01:56:41] Jon: yeah, yeah. Pretty solid. But also too budget. It's like those dollars are probably mostly for like gas and actor costs, right?

I mean, what was and extras 

[01:56:51] Donald: like. 

[01:56:52] Jon: Yeah. 900 extras a day, right? Yeah. But that's so cheap that it's like, honestly, even if it did moderately well, it's like not a [01:57:00] lot. 

[01:57:00] Daniel: Yeah. Right. Say back on. I mean, knowing, you know, what stars, when they're at their peak can command price wise, like McConaughey would've probably added 10 million to that, probably.

[01:57:13] Jon: Especially after winning an award. 

[01:57:15] Daniel: Yeah, exactly. So it's like, do we want to make this movie for a normal amount of money? A good amount of money for a cheap amount of money for a movie, especially in 2015? Mm-hmm. Or like double the budget effectively, just to have this one other person on the, 

[01:57:30] Donald: I mean, you think of the sets.

And they're really not elaborate. They're not elaborate. A hotel room. They're 

[01:57:37] Daniel: hotel pool, food truck. Yeah. 

[01:57:40] Jon: Yeah. Rent out 

[01:57:41] Donald: a 

[01:57:41] Jon: gas station, strip 

[01:57:42] Donald: club for hour a night. Yeah. Right. Yeah. Uh, a random house in the middle of Savannah. Right, right. And then a hotel that you're, you know, whatever the going rate is for that.

Right, right. For a weekend. 

[01:57:56] Jon: Yeah. Which most conferences, conventions, [01:58:00] like, that's normal. Yeah, exactly. Pricing. So, uh, reception, it was a mixed positive. Reviews, critics noted it lacked the grit of the first film, but praised its humor, camaraderie over the top dance sequences. And over time it gained recognition for its lighter or self-aware tone and forgiving its support characters more time to shine.

[01:58:22] Donald: Yeah. I think that, I think that this is like, you have to approach the, says almost a completely different movie with the, with the same characters. 

[01:58:33] Jon: Mm-hmm. And I think that's still kind of what I was going, going with earlier. I think that's a testament of how good it can be on its own. 

[01:58:40] Daniel: Right. Yeah. Like it lacked you said, I mean I, yeah, I get but the, the lack of grit.

But I like that better. I think like personally I enjoyed that more. 

[01:58:49] Jon: I don't associate with grit. You're not a gritty guy. 

[01:58:53] Daniel: I wouldn't say I'm a gritty guy. 

[01:58:55] Jon: Yeah. I did watch 

[01:58:56] Daniel: gr recently. Gr gr is guy. That's, that's me. Um, what you, 

[01:58:59] Donald: which, which [01:59:00] true grit did you watch 

[01:59:01] Daniel: the new one? I'm not watching John Wayne's racist ass.

What am I gonna do over here? That's not that 

[01:59:06] Jon: gritty. 

[01:59:07] Daniel: It's gritty. 

[01:59:09] Jon: The dude, it's gritty if you watch John freaking Wayne, because man, is he gritty 

[01:59:14] Daniel: that man. I love watching his movies. 'cause I know how much he hates Native Americans. That's grit. He's watching that movie and he's just like, I really, I really wanna go after these Native Americans.

Oh, this isn't acting. No, exactly that. That's what made it gritty. That's what made it realistic. It's like, that's creepy. Exactly. That's gritty. Cannot wait to burn down this tp. 

[01:59:34] Donald: Hey, he had Native American friends in McClintock. Yeah, I 

[01:59:38] Daniel: I bet he did. Quote unquote. Right. Speaking of which, some of my best friends are Native 

[01:59:44] Donald: American McClennan.

[01:59:47] Jon: Wrap it up. Anything else? 

[01:59:51] Daniel: I think I've said everything I need to say. 

[01:59:52] Jon: That's all I gotta say. That's all gotta say about that. I think so. I 

[01:59:54] Daniel: know I ju I mean this is, like you said, this is a classic me. This is 10 outta 10 for me. Um, I loved [02:00:00] everything about it. I trying to think of anything like, there's not really many slow parts for me.

I think everything moves really well. Yeah. I think scene to scene, to scene to scene like we've talked about before where it's just like you don't, if you following a scene structure, you say. This happens and like, and this like, so this happens Yeah. In a way where it's like everything leads to something else, right?

It's not like this happens and this like, you're not just like, oh, these two scenes don't meld or whatever. Yeah. It's like, no. Like each scene leads to the next. It's very 

[02:00:28] Donald: well structured. Yeah. It's, 

[02:00:29] Daniel: it's a good time. Sweet. I recommend it to all people. Yeah. Family and friends, all ages. 

[02:00:34] Jon: Yeah. Awesome. 

[02:00:37] Daniel: All ages.

Dancing is fun. 

[02:00:41] Jon: Yeah. Dancing's for all ages. 

[02:00:42] Daniel: Go watch you got served. Same kind of thing. 

[02:00:47] Jon: So with that, we'll see you in 10 episodes. See you then maybe, maybe probably sooner. Honestly. May probably, we'll see. Yeah. Um, because you're more available now. Yeah, I have more available. Yeah. Yeah, that's correct. So probably sooner.[02:01:00] 

[02:01:00] Donald: Yeah. Yeah, yeah. That way we can start a, any series, right? Yeah. And then, you know, when you're not here, you're playing some OG video games. 

[02:01:08] Daniel: I'm out there, I'm playing. I mean, catch me right now. I'm playing Silk song. Uh, catch me in a couple weeks. I'll be playing whatever I do after I finished Silk Song Expedition 33.

[02:01:19] Jon: Persona three, reload. 

[02:01:20] Daniel: Persona three Reload is in the, is in the list before the end of the year probably. 

[02:01:24] Jon: Are there like, and Persona four. Rewind soon. 

[02:01:27] Donald: Are there, like, that's a 2026 in any of these games that you're playing. 

[02:01:31] Daniel: We're not playing Trump. 

[02:01:31] Jon: I see what you're doing now. I mean, Tron, I'm, that's a strong hint that Dan right off the rip answered.

Good job 

[02:01:42] Daniel: Dan. Got the hint. Sorry. I love Tron legacy. The first one is boring, but I legacy, I loved, I lo like that's a good theater experience movie that I had. 

[02:01:53] Donald: So you're excited for Aries. 

[02:01:56] Jon: Are you excited for Jared Leto? I, 

[02:01:57] Daniel: that I'm kind of excited for [02:02:00] Aries, but I'm not as excited for Aries as I would be for cult leader had it not be Jared Leto.

But otherwise, yeah, I, I am excited for it despite him for sure. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. That's fair. That's fair. And the fact that he's playing like a weird, 

[02:02:14] Jon: like that's what he normally plays as well, 

[02:02:16] Daniel: playing a weird, like computer, like a blank slate computer program. Like I think it will make, that's actually what he is.

Yeah, that's what I'm saying. It will be the best. 

[02:02:24] Jon: That is what he is. Yeah. It will be 

[02:02:26] Daniel: the best him because he is not, 

[02:02:28] Jon: yeah. And he's a method actor, so he just needs to be him. He's not 

[02:02:31] Daniel: playing the Joker and sending like piles of shit in a box to other people who he's on the cast, which isn't making 

[02:02:37] Jon: of Margot Robbie, which isn't, which isn't like a Joker thing to do.

Like that's just stupid. 

[02:02:45] Daniel: That's just dumb. 

[02:02:46] Jon: Yeah. Yeah. 

[02:02:47] Daniel: Margot Robbie killed it. As you know, birds of Prey is an excellent movie. 

[02:02:52] Donald: It's an, that is an incredible movie. The, I think The Suicide Squad. Yeah. Right. Casting 

[02:02:56] Jon: Wrong movie. Yes, 

[02:02:58] Donald: exactly. 

[02:02:59] Jon: Cool. [02:03:00] Well. If you open the episode, do you wanna close it? See if you can hone in on your, in your Inner 

[02:03:06] Daniel: Six Pint Closer.

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[02:03:52] Jon: controversial. 

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Thank you guys for having me on. 

[02:04:10] Jon: Yeah, thanks for being on. Thank you. Coming probably see, see you five episodes. Wonderful. We'll see you later. Yeah, wrap up the series. Hell yeah. Bye. Peace.