The "Auto-Vaccine" Paradox: How a Controversial Gas is Hacking the Immune System to Defeat Persistent Viruses

Are you exhausted by the endless, frustrating cycle of recurring cold sores, genital herpes outbreaks, or the agonizing nerve pain of shingles? While standard antiviral medications are the gold standard for clearing viruses from your plasma, they often only do half the job—leaving you vulnerable to the next stressful trigger and doing little to heal painful skin lesions.

In this episode, we dive deep into the fascinating, science-backed world of medical ozone therapy for combating Herpes Simplex (HSV-1 & HSV-2) and Herpes Zoster (shingles). 

Discover how a simple, rapid procedure known as "minor autohemotherapy" acts as an immune-boosting "auto-vaccine." By exposing a tiny amount of blood to ozone, this therapy triggers your body’s master defense enzyme—HO-1—to neutralize viral oxidative stress, wake up your innate immune system, and suppress viral reactivation.

We also uncover the secret of high-index ozonated oils—the topical powerhouse that, when applied at the very first sign of a tingle, can stop an outbreak in its tracks and help prevent the severe, lingering nerve pain of post-herpetic neuralgia (PHN).

Learn why the ultimate defense isn't about abandoning your standard medications, but combining them with systemic ozone therapy for a synergistic, knock-out punch against persistent viral infections.

Ready to break the cycle of viral reactivation and reclaim your vitality? Don't wait for the next outbreak to strike. Take control of your immune health today! 👉 Call Dr. Kumar at LifeWellMD at 561-210-9999 or visit lifewellmd.com to schedule your personalized ozone therapy consultation.

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Transcript

SPEAKER_00 0:18

You know that feeling? It's uh almost phantom-like at first.

SPEAKER_01 0:21

It's a subtle itch.

SPEAKER_00 0:22

Yeah, or maybe a tiny localized burn on your lip.

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Or if we're talking about something even more intense, that strange sensitivity wrapping right around your torso.

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And the moment you feel it, your stomach just drops.

SPEAKER_01 0:34

It really is the physiological equivalent of hearing the floorboards creak in a horror movie. You just know the monster is in the house.

SPEAKER_00 0:42

That is the perfect analogy. Because for millions of people, we are talking about the recurring nightmare of herpes simplex.

SPEAKER_01 0:49

The dreaded cold sore.

SPEAKER_00 0:50

Right. Or the absolute nerve-shredding agony of shingles. And the worst part is you go to the medicine cabinet, you grab the standard antiviral cream or the pills, and they help, maybe a little. Exactly. But they don't solve it. The monster just keeps coming back.

SPEAKER_01 1:06

And that's because standard care is so often about management, not resolution. It's about putting a lid on the boiling pot, not actually turning off the burner.

SPEAKER_00 1:14

Which is frustrating. But what if there was a way to actually wake up your immune system so it doesn't just manage the invader but actively hunts it down?

SPEAKER_01 1:22

That is exactly what we are unpacking today.

SPEAKER_00 1:25

We are doing a deep dive into ozone therapy. And I want to be really clear right off the bat, we aren't talking about the ozone layer protecting us from the sun.

SPEAKER_01 1:33

No, definitely not.

SPEAKER_00 1:34

We are talking about supercharged oxygen used as a medical weapon against viruses.

SPEAKER_01 1:39

It is a fascinating field. I mean, it's arguably one of the most potent biological modifiers we have access to, but it's also one of the most misunderstood.

SPEAKER_00 1:48

And before we get into the chemistry of it all, let's set the stage. Because we aren't just reading random abstracts from the internet today. Far from it. We're reporting this from the perspective of the team here at LifeWellMD.com. That's the wellness and longevity clinic right here in Florida, run by Dr. Kumar.

SPEAKER_01 2:05

Which is a crucial distinction to make. When you start talking about ozone, you know, gas, blood injections, you need a captain who actually knows the waters. Absolutely. Dr. Kumar is a proud member of the AAOT, the American Academy of Ozonotherapy. That means what we're discussing today is based on rigorous safety standards.

SPEAKER_00 2:25

International protocols.

SPEAKER_01 2:26

Exactly, and legitimate training. This is not DIY science.

Oxidation, Hormesis, And NRF2

SPEAKER_00 2:29

Essential context. Because, spoiler alert, we are going to talk about needles and gases, and you definitely do not want to try any of this in your garage. Please don't. Our mission today is to demystify how ozone works specifically for herpes and shingles. Right. And for anyone listening who is currently dealing with that tingle and thinking, I just want this gone, you can actually reach out to Dr. Kumar's team right now at 561-210-9999.

SPEAKER_01 2:56

But to really appreciate why this therapy is different, you have to understand the mechanism.

SPEAKER_00 3:01

Because it sounds a little sci-fi.

SPEAKER_01 3:02

It does sound sci-fi, but the biology is incredibly grounded.

SPEAKER_00 3:06

So let's start with the molecule itself, ozone. O3. We all know oxygen is O2. So is ozone just oxygen with a carry-on bag?

SPEAKER_01 3:13

Think of it more like oxygen with an attitude problem.

SPEAKER_00 3:16

Okay.

SPEAKER_01 3:16

Standard oxygen, O2, is stable. It's what we breathe, it's happy. Bozone is O3. That third atom makes the molecule incredibly unstable.

SPEAKER_00 3:25

That wants to react.

SPEAKER_01 3:26

It is desperate to react with something. It wants to give away that third atom to stabilize itself. And in chemistry, we call that oxidation.

SPEAKER_00 3:35

Aaron Powell Okay, stop right there. Because I'm looking at the notes and I'm seeing the word oxidation. Isn't that the bad guy?

SPEAKER_01 3:41

That's the common perception, yeah.

SPEAKER_00 3:43

I mean, we spend billions of dollars a year on antioxidants, blueberry smoothies, vitamin C.

SPEAKER_01 3:49

To stop oxidation.

SPEAKER_00 3:50

Right, because it causes aging and rusts our cells. So why on earth would we introduce a gas that causes oxidation on purpose?

SPEAKER_01 3:59

That is the paradox. And it's exactly where most people get stuck. The answer lies in a concept called hormesis.

SPEAKER_00 4:06

Hormesis.

SPEAKER_01 4:07

Think about exercise. When you lift heavyweights, what are you actually doing to your body?

SPEAKER_00 4:11

You're tearing muscle fibers.

SPEAKER_01 4:13

You are creating oxidative stress. You are technically damaging your body. But provided you don't overdo it, how does your body respond?

SPEAKER_00 4:20

It repairs the muscle and makes it stronger than it was before.

SPEAKER_01 4:23

Exactly. The stress triggers a survival response. Ozone therapy works on the very same principle.

SPEAKER_00 4:29

So it's a controlled stress.

SPEAKER_01 4:30

Yes. We introduce a calculated momentary shock of oxidative stress. It's not enough to damage the healthy cells, but it is enough to ring the fire alarm.

SPEAKER_00 4:41

It shuffles the system into action.

SPEAKER_01 4:43

It's a massive wake-up call. When ozone enters the body, usually by treating a sample of blood, it reacts instantly with fatty acids and water.

SPEAKER_00 4:51

And then the gas is gone.

SPEAKER_01 4:52

It disappears in seconds. But it leaves behind chemical messengers, specifically lipid peroxides and hydrogen peroxide.

SPEAKER_00 5:00

And those messengers do what?

SPEAKER_01 5:02

They rush to your cells and flip a genetic switch.

SPEAKER_00 5:04

Okay, I want to get into the weeds here because flipping a switch sounds a bit vague. What is actually happening at the cellular level?

HO1 And Flipping The Viral Script

SPEAKER_01 5:11

The specific switch is called the NRF2 pathway. It is the master regulator of the antioxidant response. Okay. When ozone hits this pathway, it tells your DNA to start producing massive amounts of protective enzymes. But for our discussion on herpes and shingles, the most important one is an enzyme called heme oxygenase 1.

SPEAKER_00 5:29

HO1. I saw this in the research. Why is this specific enzyme the kryptonite for a virus?

SPEAKER_01 5:34

To understand that, you really have to understand how a virus like herpes operates. Think of a virus like a hijacker.

SPEAKER_00 5:41

Okay. A hijacker.

SPEAKER_01 5:42

When it takes over a cell to replicate, it creates absolute chaos. It actually generates a localized environment of oxidative stress.

SPEAKER_00 5:51

A chemical fog.

SPEAKER_01 5:53

Exactly. A sort of chemical fog that suppresses the cell's ability to call for help. The virus loves that toxic, stressful environment. It thrives in it.

SPEAKER_00 6:02

So the virus creates a smoke screen to hide its work.

SPEAKER_01 6:04

Precisely. Now enter HO1. This enzyme is a potent antioxidant and anti-inflammatory. When ozone triggers your body to flood the system with HO1, it effectively clears the smoke.

SPEAKER_00 6:17

It neutralizes the environment.

SPEAKER_01 6:18

It neutralizes that oxidative environment the virus depends on. It turns the lights on in the room where the virus is trying to work in the dark.

SPEAKER_00 6:24

I love that image. Yeah. So we aren't just poisoning the virus directly. We are changing the environment of the body so the virus can't function.

SPEAKER_01 6:31

Aaron Powell Correct. But that's just defense. The offense is even cooler.

The Auto Vaccine Effect Explained

SPEAKER_00 6:34

I'm ready.

SPEAKER_01 6:35

This brings us to the auto vaccine effect.

SPEAKER_00 6:37

The auto vaccine. Now this sounds incredibly promising. Is this a literal vaccine?

SPEAKER_01 6:43

Aaron Powell Not in the traditional sense of a shot you get at the pharmacy. It's a functional vaccine created from your own blood. Okay, wow. This is particularly relevant for the systemic treatments Dr. Kumar performs, like minor autohemotherapy.

SPEAKER_00 6:56

Walk us through that. What actually happens in the clinic?

SPEAKER_01 6:59

Okay. Imagine you have a chronic viral infection. The virus is in your blood, but it's hiding. Your immune system is sort of ignoring it because it's old news or the virus is camouflaged. Right. In minor autohemotherapy, we draw a small amount of blood, maybe five to ten cc. We mix that blood in a syringe with the precise concentration of ozone gas.

SPEAKER_00 7:20

And the ozone reacts with the blood right there in the syringe.

SPEAKER_01 7:23

Instantly. And in that reaction, the ozone oxidizes the viral particles floating in that blood sample. It destroys their capsid, which is the shell.

SPEAKER_00 7:32

It breaks them apart.

SPEAKER_01 7:33

It breaks them apart. The virus in that syringe is dead. It is completely inactivated.

SPEAKER_00 7:37

Okay, so you have a syringe full of dead virus parts.

SPEAKER_01 7:40

Right. But and here is the magic, the protein structure, the fingerprint of the virus is still there.

SPEAKER_00 7:46

Oh, I see where this is going.

SPEAKER_01 7:48

So when we inject that blood back into your muscle, the body sees it. The immune system sees these broken, oxidized viral particles and treats them as a fresh, new threat. Dendritic cells, which are the scouts of the immune system, grab these particles and present them to the T cells.

SPEAKER_00 8:05

It's like showing a bloodhound a fresh piece of the suspect's clothing.

SPEAKER_01 8:08

Exactly. It retrains the immune system. It stimulates the production of specific cytokines. Messengers like Interferon Alpha, Interferon Gamma, and Interleukin 4.

SPEAKER_00 8:18

It says, hey, remember this guy. He's the enemy. Go get him.

SPEAKER_01 8:22

Yes. It wakes up the immune system to recognize and hunt down the active virus that is still hiding elsewhere in the body. That's why we call it an auto vaccine. You are using your own blood to teach your body how to fight the infection again.

SPEAKER_00 8:34

That is incredible. And it makes perfect sense why you'd need a pro like Dr. Kumar for this. You really need the ratios right.

SPEAKER_01 8:42

100%. If you don't use enough ozone, nothing happens. If you use too much, you damage the blood cells. It's a Goldilocks situation.

Beating Shingles Fast And Preventing PHN

SPEAKER_00 8:50

So let's apply this to the nightmare scenario. Shingles.

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Herpesoster.

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For those lucky enough not to know, shingles is the chickenpox virus, which almost all of us have sleeping in our nerves, just deciding to wake up and seek revenge.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

Usually when we are stressed, aging, or immune compromised, and the pain is distinct. It's not just a rash itch, it's nerve damage.

SPEAKER_00 9:13

Yeah, patients describe it as burning, electric shocks, or stabbing.

SPEAKER_01 9:16

Aaron Powell And the biggest fear isn't just the rash itself, right? It's what comes after.

SPEAKER_00 9:20

Postrapeic neuralgia. Yeah. THN.

SPEAKER_01 9:23

Yes. This is the condition where the rash heals, the blisters go away, but the pain stays.

SPEAKER_00 9:28

Because the nerve is actually damaged.

SPEAKER_01 9:29

Exactly. It happens because the virus has scarred the nerve fibers. For people over 50 or 60, this is a major risk. That pain can last for months or even years. It completely destroys quality of life.

SPEAKER_00 9:41

That is terrifying. Now, looking at our source material, there's a pivotal study by a Dr. Giamato. This seems to be the benchmark for ozone and shingles.

SPEAKER_01 9:50

It is. Dr. Amato treated 180 patients with shingles. But he didn't just give them a pill, he used a multi-pronged approach.

SPEAKER_00 9:58

What did he do?

SPEAKER_01 9:59

He used major autohemotherapy, that's treating a larger volume of blood, plus topical ozone, and an anesthetic microinfusion directly into the skin around the rash.

SPEAKER_00 10:09

And what were the numbers?

SPEAKER_01 10:10

They were stunning. This protocol eliminated acute pain in about 90% of patients within just three to four days.

SPEAKER_00 10:17

Three to four days. I've had friends with shingles where the antivirals took weeks just to make it bearable. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_01 10:22

Speed is the massive benefit here. But the most critical stat for you listening is that it effectively prevented PHN in the older demographics.

SPEAKER_00 10:30

It stopped the lingering pain.

SPEAKER_01 10:32

That lingering nerve pain simply didn't set in because the ozone helped repair the nerve tissue and stop the inflammation so quickly.

SPEAKER_00 10:39

But there was a catch regarding timing, wasn't there? You can't just wait a month to try this.

SPEAKER_01 10:43

No. Time is tissue. The sources emphasize that early intervention is critical, ideally within the first week of the rash appearing.

SPEAKER_00 10:51

So the takeaway here is if you feel that burning sensation or you see that strip of blisters appearing on your side or back, you do not wait and see.

SPEAKER_01 10:59

Absolutely not. You call a place like lifelmd immediately. You want to hit that virus with ozone while it's still replicating before it creates permanent nerve scarring.

SPEAKER_00 11:08

Okay, let's pivot to the other herpes, HSV1 and HSV2. Cold sores and genital herpes. The stigma is huge. And the standard treatment is usually a cyclover or valiceyclover.

SPEAKER_01 11:20

Which are the gold standards, technically. They work by stopping viral replication, but they do have limits.

SPEAKER_00 11:26

Right. They can be expensive, they have side effects, and viruses can develop resistance to them.

SPEAKER_01 11:30

Plus, if you've ever had a cold sore, you know that taking the pill doesn't make the giant blister on your lip disappear overnight. The skin still has to heal.

SPEAKER_00 11:38

Exactly. And that's where the actionable tip from our sources comes in. Ozenated oils. Now this sounds like something I'd buy at a farmer's market next to the lavender soap. Is this real medicine?

SPEAKER_01 11:49

It is, but you really have to be careful with what you buy. You can't just bubble ozone through olive oil for 10 minutes with a fish tank aerator and call it medical.

SPEAKER_00 11:57

The sources were very specific about numbers here.

SPEAKER_01 12:00

They were. Ozonated oil is created by bubbling ozone through oil, usually sunflower or olive, for days or even weeks until the oil basically solidifies into a gel.

SPEAKER_00 12:11

It traps the ozone.

SPEAKER_01 12:12

It traps the ozone right in the chemical structure. For viral skin lesions, you need an oil with a high peroxide index. We are talking an IP of 800 to 1200.

SPEAKER_00 12:23

1200 IP. Okay. So if I go to Amazon, am I going to see that number?

SPEAKER_01 12:26

Often, no. And that's the problem. A lot of cosmetic ocinated oils are low index. They might be fine for wrinkles, but they are useless for a virus. You need therapeutic grade. And be warned, it has a smell.

SPEAKER_00 12:38

Oh, really? What are we talking about here?

SPEAKER_01 12:40

It's distinct. Some say it smells like bleach, others say crushed clover or thunderstorm. It's pungent, but that smell is the active ozone release.

SPEAKER_00 12:47

So how do you actually use it? Is there a specific protocol?

SPEAKER_01 12:50

The protocol relies heavily on catching the prodromal stage.

SPEAKER_00 12:53

That's the tingle.

SPEAKER_01 12:54

Right. The moment you feel that tingle or itch, before the blister even forms, you apply the high-index oil. You do it four to five times a day.

SPEAKER_00 13:02

And what happens?

SPEAKER_01 13:03

Sources indicate that if you catch it right then, you can rapidly block the infection from even developing. The blister simply never appears.

SPEAKER_00 13:11

Aaron Powell That is the holy grail for cold sore sufferers. But let's talk about the combined approach. Because the Madrid Declaration, which is basically the international rule book for ozone, suggests we shouldn't just throw away the antivirals.

SPEAKER_01 13:24

No, and Dr. Kumar would completely agree. We aren't anti-medication. We are pro-results.

SPEAKER_00 13:29

So you use both.

SPEAKER_01 13:31

The most effective strategy, especially for stubborn or recurring cases, is synergy. You use the antiviral drug to stop the replication from the inside. You use systemic ozone, like autohemotherapy, to wake up the immune system, and you use the topical oil to heal the lesion from the outside.

SPEAKER_00 13:47

One plus one equals three.

Systemic Treatments: MAH, Minor AHT, Insufflation

SPEAKER_01 13:48

Exactly. It reduces recurrence rates significantly.

SPEAKER_00 13:51

Okay, so we've mentioned a few acronyms. MAH minor AHT. Let's break down the how to. If I walk into LifeWell MD in Florida, what does a treatment actually look like?

SPEAKER_01 14:03

Well, there are two main systemic ways Dr. Kumar might treat this. The first is major autohemotherapy or MAH.

SPEAKER_00 14:11

That's the big blood treatment.

SPEAKER_01 14:12

Yes. They draw about 150 milliliters of your blood into a sterile, ozone-resistant bag and looks just like a standard blood donation. Then they inject a precise volume of ozone gas into the bag. Okay. And this is the cool part. Visually, you actually watch the blood turn from a dark venous red to a bright, beautiful crimson.

SPEAKER_00 14:33

Because it's suddenly super oxygenating.

SPEAKER_01 14:35

Correct. Then it simply flows back into your vein. It takes about 30 to 45 minutes. That treats the whole body. Inflammation, oxygenation, circulation.

SPEAKER_00 14:45

And we already covered the minor AHT. That's the small shot in the globe for the vaccine effect. But the sources also mention something that sounds, well, let's be honest, it sounds intimidating. Insuflation.

SPEAKER_01 14:54

Yes. Rectal or vaginal insufflation.

SPEAKER_00 14:56

I feel like a lot of listeners just clenched up. Why on earth would we do that?

SPEAKER_01 14:59

I know it sounds intense, but chemically and anatomically, it makes perfect sense. Your colon is lined with a massive network of veins called the portal vein system. It is highly vascular.

SPEAKER_00 15:09

So it absorbs quickly.

SPEAKER_01 15:10

When you introduce the gas there, it absorbs into the bloodstream almost instantly.

SPEAKER_00 15:14

So it's basically a way to get the ozone into the blood without a needle.

SPEAKER_01 15:18

Exactly. For patients who hate needles, have hard-to-find veins, or in the case of genital herpes, want to treat the local pelvic area directly. This is actually a preferred method in places like Germany and Cuba.

SPEAKER_00 15:32

Interesting.

SPEAKER_01 15:32

It's painless, believe it or not, and incredibly effective.

SPEAKER_00 15:36

Okay, that makes sense. It's just an alternative delivery route.

SPEAKER_01 15:39

It is. But again, it requires medical grade equipment. Which brings us right back to safety. And I feel like I need to play the skeptic for a second.

SPEAKER_00 15:47

Please do.

SPEAKER_01 15:47

I'm looking at these notes and then I'm remembering what my high school chemistry teacher said. Don't breathe ozone. And I look at the FDA website and it clearly states ozone is a toxic gas with no approved medical use. It says it causes lung irritation. Are we crazy here? How is Dr. Kumar doing this openly?

SPEAKER_00 16:07

There's the elephant in the room. And the FDA isn't wrong about the lungs.

Safety, Standards, And The FDA Gap

SPEAKER_01 16:11

Right. You must never ever inhale ozone gas. The lung lining lacks the antioxidant enzymes to protect itself. It will burn your lungs. That is rule number one.

SPEAKER_00 16:21

But the medical community that uses it says something different.

SPEAKER_01 16:25

The thousands of doctors globally who use this argue that toxicity is entirely about the route of administration.

SPEAKER_00 16:31

So breathing in is bad. Injecting treated blood is beneficial.

SPEAKER_01 16:35

That is the argument supported by the Madrid Declaration, ISCO3, and the AOT. It's dose-dependent and route dependent.

SPEAKER_00 16:41

Aaron Powell, Why the disconnect with the FDA then?

SPEAKER_01 16:43

The FDA's stance is largely based on inhalation risks and a lack of large-scale double-blind pharmaceutical trials in the U.S. Because, well, you can't patent a gas found in nature. There's simply no money in it for big pharma.

SPEAKER_00 16:56

Which is why it falls under alternative or integrative medicine here.

SPEAKER_01 16:59

Correct. But alternative doesn't mean the Wild West. Countries like Italy, Spain, and Germany recognize and regulate it. The Madrid Declaration provides global safety standards, and the AAOT ensures practitioners in the US, like Dr. Kumar, are adhering to those strict protocols.

SPEAKER_00 17:15

Aaron Powell And that's the key distinction. If you buy a generator on eBay and try to do this yourself, you have no idea what concentration you're getting.

SPEAKER_01 17:22

Or what contaminants. Industrial ozone generators can produce toxic byproducts if they don't use pure oxygen and glass components. Dr. Kumar uses medical-grade oxygen and calibrated generators. He knows the difference between a therapeutic dose, which is usually 10 to 40 micrograms, and a toxic one.

SPEAKER_00 17:40

So when you go to an expert, you're paying for that safety and that precision.

SPEAKER_01 17:43

Precisely. And in the case of shingles or herpes, where the standard of care often leaves people in immense pain, that expertise offers an option that many patients are absolutely desperate for.

SPEAKER_00 17:55

It really is about having more tools in the toolkit. We aren't saying abandon modern medicine. We're saying look at what else is available to support the body's own machinery.

Takeaways, Action Steps, And Closing

SPEAKER_01 18:04

That is the core Life Well MD philosophy. Longevity isn't just about living longer. It's about living without that recurring pain or the constant fear of a breakout. It's about functional health.

SPEAKER_00 18:15

So let's bring this all together. What is the ultimate takeaway for you listening who is tired of the tingling and the pain?

SPEAKER_01 18:21

The takeaway is that your body already has the machinery to control these viruses. That machinery is the NRF2 pathway, the HO1 enzyme, and the adaptive immune response. But sometimes that machinery is asleep or the virus has tricked it. Ozone therapy is simply the spark plug that turns the engine back on.

SPEAKER_00 18:37

It wakes up the defender.

SPEAKER_01 18:39

It wakes it up. Whether it's high-index ozonated oils to stop a cold sore in its tracks, or systemic treatments like MAH to prevent the long-term nerve damage of shingles, the tools exist, but you need to act fast and you need a professional.

SPEAKER_00 18:52

And that professional is Dr. Kumar. If you are in Florida or willing to travel, LifeWellMD is the place to go. They combine these therapies with a whole body view of health. They don't just treat the spot, they treat the system.

SPEAKER_01 19:05

And again, checking that AOT credential is the smartest thing a patient can do to ensure safety.

SPEAKER_00 19:10

So if you are ready to stop just managing the outbreaks and start actually fighting them, give the team a call. I'm going to give you that number one last time. It's 561-210-9999. That's 561-210-9999.

SPEAKER_01 19:23

Truly, one call could save you from months of nerve pain.

SPEAKER_00 19:26

Absolutely. We've covered the molecule, the mechanism, the oils, and the safety. But I want to leave you with a final thought to chew on today.

SPEAKER_01 19:34

Here is what fascinates me about this whole topic. We know that viruses have learned to hide from our immune system by creating oxidative stress in our cells. They use that fog to survive.

SPEAKER_00 19:45

It's their camouflage.

SPEAKER_01 19:46

But what happens when we use that very same force, oxidative stress via ozone, to turn the lights back on? We aren't just poisoning the virus. We are using the virus's preferred environment against it. We are hijacking the hijacker. And that, to me, is a beautiful bit of biological justice.

SPEAKER_00 20:04

Biological justice. I love that. Thanks for taking the deep dive with us today.

SPEAKER_01 20:08

Always a pleasure.

SPEAKER_00 20:09

Stay curious, stay well, and we'll see you on the next one.