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How Testosterone Destroys Fat: Inside the Groundbreaking BMC Medicine Randomized Controlled Trial

Dr. Kumar from LifeWellMD.com Season 1 Episode 153

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How Testosterone Destroys Fat: Inside the Groundbreaking BMC Medicine Trial

In this episode, we break down a fascinating randomized controlled trial published in BMC Medicine that explores what happens when you combine a strict weight-loss diet with testosterone treatment. We dive deep into the science of how testosterone specifically impacts body composition for obese men with low to low-normal testosterone levels who are undergoing caloric restriction.

Tune in to discover:

  • The Fat Loss Shift: Why dieting alone often causes you to lose both fat and valuable muscle, while testosterone treatment shifts the scale so that weight loss is almost exclusively from body fat.
  • Muscle Protection and Recovery: How testosterone helps recover and preserve lean muscle mass during a long-term weight maintenance phase, ensuring that the weight you keep off is fat, not muscle.
  • Busting Belly Fat: The science behind the significantly greater reductions in visceral fat (dangerous belly fat) seen in men receiving testosterone compared to those on a diet alone.
  • Boosted Energy and Strength: How testosterone treatment is linked to significant increases in handgrip strength, higher daily step counts, and more time spent in light, active movement, likely due to motivational effects that reduce fatigue.

If you are struggling with weight loss, experiencing fatigue, or suspect you might have low testosterone, medical guidance can make all the difference. Take control of your metabolic health and body composition today.

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SPEAKER_01

Welcome to today's deep dive. I am I'm just so glad you're here with us today because we've got a topic that hits really close to home for a lot of guys.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yeah, absolutely. It's a huge issue.

SPEAKER_01

Right. So I want you to imagine the scenario for a second. You decide it's it's finally time to get in shape, right? You cut your calories to the bone, you endure the hunger pangs.

SPEAKER_00

The absolute worst part.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. You do everything right. And after a grueling couple of months, you step on the scale and boom, you've dropped 30 pounds.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

You should feel amazing.

SPEAKER_00

But you don't.

SPEAKER_01

No, you don't. You look in the mirror, and instead of looking lean and strong, you just look kind of depleted, weaker, softer even. Because it turns out a huge chunk of the weight you just lost was your hard-earned muscle.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it's it is honestly one of the most demoralizing experiences. And I see it constantly. Men put in this incredible amount of work, but their underlying biology is actively fighting their desired outcome.

SPEAKER_01

Right. Their own body is sabotaging them. And today we're unpacking exactly why that happens. We've got a fascinating 2016 randomized controlled trial from BMC Medicines.

SPEAKER_00

It's a fantastic paper.

SPEAKER_01

It really is. It's titled Effects of Testosterone Treatment on Body Fat and Lean Mass in Obese Men on a Hypocaloric Diet. We're going to explore how researchers essentially ran a scientific rescue mission on the male metabolism.

SPEAKER_00

A rescue mission is the perfect way to phrase it, honestly.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah. And you know, speaking of rescue missions, this is exactly the kind of stuff we specialize in with Dr. Kumar's team at LifeWellMD.com down here in Florida. We focus on health, wellness, longevity, and optimizing these exact biological pathways.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell Exactly. At LifeWellMD, we don't just guess, we look at the actual science of healthy weight loss and hormone optimization.

Fat As An Endocrine Organ

SPEAKER_01

Right. So if anything we talk about today resonates with you, give us a call at 5612109999 to start your wellness journey. But uh let's jump into the science. To kick us off, why does this muscle loss trap even exist, especially for men carrying excess weight?

SPEAKER_00

So to really understand the trap, we have to completely change how we think about fat.

SPEAKER_01

Okay. How so?

SPEAKER_00

Well, for decades, the general public and and even parts of the medical community, honestly, we viewed fat as just an inert storage unit.

SPEAKER_01

Like a biological backpack.

SPEAKER_00

Right, exactly. Just excess baggage sitting on the body holding calories for a rainy day.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But the biological reality is it's much more aggressive. Excess fat is a highly active, highly disruptive endocrine organ.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell, wait, an organ?

SPEAKER_00

Yes. And for men, carrying too much of it creates this devastating bidirectional relationship with their hormones.

SPEAKER_01

Meaning the fat isn't just sitting there, it's actually sending signals that change how the rest of the body operates.

SPEAKER_00

Precisely. The data in our source notes that obese men naturally have about 30% lower total testosterone than lean men.

SPEAKER_01

30%? That's massive.

SPEAKER_00

It is. And it gets more severe. 40% of obese men have testosterone levels that drop below the healthy baseline threshold.

SPEAKER_01

Which is what exactly?

SPEAKER_00

Typically around 12 mammals per liter.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, let me make sure I'm hearing that correctly. 40%. We are talking about nearly half of all men struggling with obesity who are also walking around clinically deficient in their primary male hormone.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, nearly half.

SPEAKER_01

That isn't just some minor statistical correlation. That is a massive physiological roadblock. Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00

It's a huge roadblock. And the mechanism behind how the fat actually does this is where it gets really insidious. The fat tissue actively secretes these molecules called adipokines.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, what are those?

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell They're essentially cell signaling proteins. And along with these adipokines, the fat releases a cascade of pro-inflammatory mediators.

SPEAKER_01

So it's creating inflammation.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. And these inflammatory signals don't just stay in the gut, they travel through the bloodstream, cross the blood-brain barrier, and go straight to the hypothalamus.

SPEAKER_01

The hypothalamus being like the control center in the brain that regulates hormones, right?

SPEAKER_00

You got it. The hypothalamus is like the thermostat for your entire endocrine system. When these inflammatory antipacines hit it, they actively suppress what we call the gnatal axis.

SPEAKER_01

So they blindfold the thermostat.

SPEAKER_00

That's a great way to put it. They tell the brain to stop sending the signal down to the testes to produce testosterone. So the fat is literally shutting off the factory.

SPEAKER_01

That is wild. The fat is actively protecting itself by shutting down your testosterone. And the source also mentioned something about a transport protein being affected.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Sex hormone binding globulin or SHEPG. Think of SHPG like a fleet of taxis.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, taxis.

SPEAKER_00

Right, taxis that safely transport testosterone through your bloodstream to the tissues that actually need it. Well, obesity drastically lowers the production of SHPG. Oh, wow. Not only is the brain telling the body to make less testosterone, but the testosterone that is being made doesn't have the proper transport system to remain stable and reach your muscle receptors.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, let's unpack this for the listener. If your fat is shutting down your testosterone production and dismantling the transport system, then traditional dieting under these conditions, it sounds like trying to clean out your garage, but you're working completely in the dark.

SPEAKER_00

I love that analogy. Yes.

SPEAKER_01

Right. You are desperately throwing out the trash, the fat, but because you can't see what you're doing, you accidentally keep throwing away your expensive power tools. Your muscle. Your body literally cannot tell the difference.

SPEAKER_00

That is exactly what happens. The body is in a state of confusion and panic. And clinically, this leads to a highly destructive condition called sarcopenic obesity.

SPEAKER_01

Sarcopenic obesity, break that down for us.

SPEAKER_00

Sarcopenia is the medical term for the loss of muscle mass and function. So you find yourself in a state where you are retaining or gaining fat while actively losing muscle tissue.

SPEAKER_01

And losing muscle is the absolute last thing you want to do if you're trying to get healthy. Because muscle is the engine that burns calories, right?

SPEAKER_00

That is the core of the issue. Muscle is your body's primary sink for glucose. It is where you burn sugar. So if you lose the engine, you drive up insulin resistance. When you're insulin resistant, your body has to pump out more insulin to manage your blood sugar. And high insulin makes it incredibly easy to store even more fat.

SPEAKER_01

Man, it just becomes a self-perpetuating cycle.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Low testosterone promotes fat accumulation. That new fat secretes more adipokines, which further suppresses your testosterone at the brain level. And that suppressed testosterone completely halts myogenesis.

SPEAKER_01

Myogenesis being the creation of new muscle tissue.

SPEAKER_00

Correct. The biological process is just halted.

SPEAKER_01

I really want you, the listener, to think about this for a second. Think about times you or someone you know hit a massive wall with diet fatigue. We so often look at someone who gives up on a diet and blame a lack of willpower, you know? Trevor Burrus, Jr.

SPEAKER_00

Right. The old eat less, move more, guilt truck.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. We say, oh, they just didn't want it badly enough. But what we're looking at here is a profound biological headwind. Your own adipose tissue is actively running a sabotage campaign.

SPEAKER_00

It really is.

SPEAKER_01

It's suppressing the very hormone you need to maintain the muscle that would help you lose the weight. Which is exactly why Dr. Kumar and the Life Well MD team focus on optimizing these hormones first. You can't fight biology with just willpower.

SPEAKER_00

You really can't. Which brings us to the central question of the BMC medicine trial. If the body is actively fighting muscle retention and aggressively promoting fat storage in this obese state, how do we scientifically break the site? Can we intervene?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and to answer that, the researchers didn't just casually observe a few guys on a diet, they built an absolute gauntlet. The methodology here is intense.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, it's incredibly rigorous.

SPEAKER_01

They recruited 100 obese men. Every single one of them had a BMI over 30. The median age was around 53. And crucially, every single one had clinically confirmed low testosterone.

SPEAKER_00

So they were fully caught in that sarcopetic trap we just talked about.

SPEAKER_01

Exactly. And then they put them on a diet that sounds, honestly, it sounds impossible.

SPEAKER_00

It was severe. They utilize a very low energy diet or V L E D. For the first 10 weeks, these men were restricted to consuming just 640 calories a day.

SPEAKER_01

Wait, hold on. 640 calories a day for 10 straight weeks.

SPEAKER_00

Yep. 10 weeks.

SPEAKER_01

I've had lunches that are more than 640 calories. How does a 250-pound man even survive that without his body just cannibalizing its own muscles and organs for fuel?

SPEAKER_00

Well, that is the exact physiological crisis the researchers were intentionally triggering. Caloric restriction of that magnitude always triggers severe muscle loss.

SPEAKER_01

It's inevitable.

SPEAKER_00

It's a biological inevitability. When you drop calories that low, your body goes into a defensive starvation mode. Cortisol levels spike, metabolic rate plummets, and the body starts breaking down muscle tissue into amino acids to convert into glucose for the brain.

SPEAKER_01

But the researchers knew this would happen.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. This study wasn't designed to figure out the best way to become a bodybuilder. It was designed to answer a highly specific question. Which was if we medically optimize a man's hormones, can we create a biological shield that protects his lean mass during an extreme state of energy deficit?

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Ross Powell Right. They wanted to see if testosterone could act as body armor against starvation. So they divide the men into two groups. Half the men get intramuscular testosterone undecanal injections.

SPEAKER_00

Which kept their trough levels optimized right in that healthy 10 to 15 nanomole per liter range.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell Perfect. And the other half get a visually identical placebo oily injection. It's double blind, so neither the doctors nor the patients know who has the real hormone.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell Right. Standard gold standard trial design.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Ross Powell So they endure the brutal 10-week crash diet and then they transition to a 1,350 calorie maintenance diet for another 46 weeks. So it's a 56-week trial in total.

SPEAKER_00

Aaron Powell The setup is perfect. But the first major check-in at the 10-week mark delivered a result that, on the surface, seemed to completely disprove the researcher's entire hypothesis.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, this is the plot twist. And it's fascinating because it goes against everything we assume about hormones. At 10 weeks, the men come into the clinic for their scans.

SPEAKER_00

Both groups have endured the 640-calorie torture.

SPEAKER_01

Both groups have lost massive amounts of weight, around 12 to 13.5 kilograms, which is nearly 30 pounds.

SPEAKER_00

Massive weight loss.

SPEAKER_01

But then the researchers look at the dual-energy X-ray absorptiometry scans, the DXA scans that measure exact body composition, and what did they find?

SPEAKER_00

They found absolutely no difference between the two groups.

SPEAKER_01

None.

SPEAKER_00

Zero. The men receiving the optimized testosterone lost just as much precious muscle mass as the men receiving the placebo. Both groups lost roughly four to five kilograms of lean mass.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, let's pause there because that is confusing. If testosterone is this master architect for muscle building, why didn't it protect the muscle during the first 10 weeks? Why did it fail to act as that biological shield?

SPEAKER_00

Because of the hierarchy of survival. During acute severe starvation, which 640 calories a day absolutely is, your body overrides anabolic or muscle building signals.

SPEAKER_01

So it just ignores the testosterone.

SPEAKER_00

Pretty much. It does not matter how much testosterone is floating in your bloodstream. If your body senses it is starving to death, it shuts down the MTOR pathways.

SPEAKER_01

Right, MTOR pathways.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, the cellular pathways responsible for building muscle. It shuts them down and activates pathways that break down tissue for immediate energy. Essentially, the body's emergency survival programming vetoes the testosterone. The hormone simply lacks the acute anabolic power to stop the breakdown of muscle when there is zero fuel coming in.

SPEAKER_01

So the body is saying, I don't care about maintaining biceps right now. I need to keep the brain and the heart functioning, and I will eat these biceps to do it?

SPEAKER_00

Precisely. In the short term, under extreme deficit, testosterone cannot save you from muscle loss.

Rebuilding Muscle During Maintenance

SPEAKER_01

But, and this is huge, the trial didn't end at 10 weeks, and this is where the story completely flips. After the crash diet, they move into the 46-week maintenance phase, eating 1,350 calories a day. Fast forward to the 56-week mark, the total scale weight for both groups remained pretty stable. They hadn't lost much more absolute weight since week 10, but under the hood, the DXA scans showed a completely different reality.

SPEAKER_00

The divergence in body composition during the maintenance phase is radical. By week 56, the men in the placebo group stayed depleted.

SPEAKER_01

The muscle they lost was just gone.

SPEAKER_00

Gone. And it stayed gone. But the men in the testosterone group, while eating a relatively low 1350 calories, they actually regained 3.3 kilograms of lean mass.

SPEAKER_01

That's incredible. So the testosterone didn't act like a magical shield during the crash diet. It acted like a mastillo architect during the rebuild phase.

SPEAKER_00

That is exactly what happened. And the biology of how it does this during a maintenance phase is incredible. It comes down to something called stem cell differentiation.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, walk us through that. What is stem cell differentiation in this context?

SPEAKER_00

So in your muscle tissue, you have these unspecialized cells called pluripotent stem cells, specifically satellite cells. Okay. When the body starts taking in slightly more calories during the maintenance phase, moving from 640 up to 1350, it has a choice. It arrives at a cellular fork in the road.

SPEAKER_01

It can use those returning calories to build new fat cells, or it can build new muscle fibers.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. And over a long time frame, optimizing testosterone forces the cellular signaling down the myogenesis pathway.

SPEAKER_01

The muscle building pathway.

SPEAKER_00

Yes. It chemically instructs those stem cells to differentiate into muscle fibers. And it actively inhibits them from differentiating into new adipocytes or fat cells.

SPEAKER_01

It is quite literally reprogramming the body's priority list. And the fat loss numbers reflect that reprogramming perfectly. Because the testosterone group didn't just build muscle during that maintenance phase.

SPEAKER_00

No, they didn't.

SPEAKER_01

While the placebo group was stagnating, the testosterone group lost an additional 2.9 kilograms of fat. And this wasn't just subcutaneous fat like the soft fat under the skin.

SPEAKER_00

No, it was the most dangerous type of fat. They lost a massive 2,678 square millimeters of visceral fat.

SPEAKER_01

Visceral fat, that's the stuff deep inside, right?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, the hard belly fat that physically wraps around your internal organs, your liver, your pancreas, your intestines. It is the highly metabolically active fat that drives cardiovascular disease, diabetes, and systemic inflammation.

SPEAKER_01

And the testosterone intervention specifically targeted and cleared out that organ-choking fat. Now I know some people listening might be thinking: well, if the placebo group lost 30 pounds during the first 10 weeks, didn't their natural testosterone bounce back because they got rid of the fat that was suppressing it?

SPEAKER_00

It's a great question, and the researchers tracked exactly that. The men in the placebo group did experience a natural rise in their own endogenous testosterone levels from losing the initial weight.

SPEAKER_01

Aaron Powell Because they had less fat secreting those adipokines we talked about.

SPEAKER_00

Right. Their hypothalamus woke up a bit. Their levels went up by about 2.9 nanomoles per liter.

SPEAKER_01

But it wasn't enough.

SPEAKER_00

The data clearly shows it wasn't nearly enough to save their muscle or pull them out of the sarcopenic trap. That modest natural bounce back left them depleted.

SPEAKER_01

So they needed the medical intervention.

SPEAKER_00

They needed the exogenous or external optimization to maintain a trough level of 10 to 15 nanomoles per liter. That sustained, optimized level was required to truly force the stem cells to change the body composition.

SPEAKER_01

Wow. By the end of the 56 weeks, the weight lost by the testosterone group was almost exclusively fat, whereas the placebo group was just a smaller, weaker version of their obese cells.

SPEAKER_00

Which is exactly what we try to prevent at Life Well MD.

SPEAKER_01

Right. And it fundamentally changes how we view successful weight loss. It's not about the absolute number on the scale, it's about what that weight is actually made of.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

Testosterone And The Drive To Move

SPEAKER_01

But you know, the physical cellular changes in this trial are undeniable. But as I was reading through the source material, there was another data set that completely blew me away.

SPEAKER_00

The behavioral data.

SPEAKER_01

Yes. It suggests the hormone wasn't just changing their stem cells, it was changing their daily behavior, it was changing their minds.

SPEAKER_00

The behavioral and physical activity metrics are arguably the most profound part of the entire study.

SPEAKER_01

Let's dig into that. First, there's the functional strength data. The testosterone group saw a significant measurable increase in their hand grip strength, an extra 3.6 kilograms of force compared to the placebo group.

SPEAKER_00

And grip strength is a massive indicator of overall central nervous system health and longevity.

SPEAKER_01

Totally. But the pedometer data, the daily step counts, that is where the story really solidifies.

SPEAKER_00

Let's look at the timeline of their movement. At the 10-week mark, right after the brutal crash diet, both groups had actually increased their daily step counts.

SPEAKER_01

Which makes sense psychologically. You start a new diet, you lose 30 pounds, you are highly motivated. Everyone is fired up at week 10.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly. Motivation is high initially.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

But motivation is notoriously fleeting, especially when you are enduring a prolonged caloric deficit.

SPEAKER_01

Right.

SPEAKER_00

The crucial behavioral finding happened at the 56-week mark. By the end of the year, the placebo group completely reverted to their old habits. Their daily activity levels dropped right back down to where they were before the study even started.

SPEAKER_01

But the testosterone group.

SPEAKER_00

They maintained their increased activity. A year later, they were still taking an extra 931 steps every single day compared to their baseline and spending 1.5% more of their day in non-sedentary time.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so we know they were on the exact same maintenance diet. They were both eating 1,350 calories, yet one group reverts to sitting on the couch and the other group voluntarily stays active. Why?

SPEAKER_00

It's fascinating.

SPEAKER_01

Was optimizing the hormone levels, like upgrading the computer's hardware, which miraculously fixed the behavioral software bugs. Did they actually just want to move more?

SPEAKER_00

Yes, and there is a deep evolutionary reason for this. Dieting, by definition, makes people lethargic.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Evolutionarily speaking, when food is scarce, your body assumes you are in a famine.

SPEAKER_01

It thinks you're starving.

SPEAKER_00

Right. To survive a famine, the body pulls the emergency metabolic brake. It makes you feel tired, sluggish, and unmotivated. It reduces your non-exercise activity, thermogenesis, or neat.

SPEAKER_01

Neat. So just daily movement.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it does not want you pacing around or taking walks because that burns precious energy.

SPEAKER_01

It's a survival mechanism. If you are a hunter-gatherer and there is no food, running around for fun is a death sentence.

SPEAKER_00

Precisely. But normalizing testosterone overrides that evolutionary break. The researchers reference preclinical data to explain this. When you look at androgen-deficient mice, mice with low testosterone, they naturally show decreased voluntary activity. Not just stop running on their wheels. They do. When you optimize the hormone, you reduce systemic fatigue and inertia. You give the organism the biological drive to remain active, even when calories are relatively low. The testosterone acts as a chemical signal that tells the brain we are strong, we are capable, keep moving.

SPEAKER_01

I want to speak directly to you, the listener, for a moment because this point is so critical. If you have ever been on a long diet and you've beaten yourself up at the end of the day because you just didn't have the willpower to go take a walk or play with your kids or hit the gym. You're not alone. No. This study proves that your lack of motivation is deeply tied to your endocrine system. You aren't just lazy. Your hardware is running on a critically low battery because the inflammatory fat is suppressing your natural drive. This data completely reframes weight loss. It is not purely a psychological battle of willpower against hunger.

SPEAKER_00

It is an endocrinological tightrope walk. If your hormones are suppressed, your biology will eventually overpower your willpower. You will sit down. You will stop moving.

SPEAKER_01

Which is exactly why you need a medical team that understands this. If you are struggling with this vicious cycle, seriously, call our clinic at 5612109999. Dr. Kumar's team at lifewellmd.com can actually help you optimize these levels so you aren't fighting your own biology.

SPEAKER_00

It makes all the difference in the world.

Outthinking The Rogue Organ

SPEAKER_01

It really does. So what does this all mean when we put the pieces together? Let's do a quick distillation of the science we've covered today.

SPEAKER_00

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_01

Severe caloric restriction by itself will cause you to lose massive amounts of weight, but you will indiscriminately lose both fat and muscle. But for obese men who are suffering from clinically low testosterone, normalizing those hormone levels through medical intervention completely transforms how the body handles that weight loss over the long term.

SPEAKER_00

It's a game changer.

SPEAKER_01

It doesn't stop the initial muscle loss during starvation, but it radically rescues and rebuilds your muscle mass during the long-term maintenance phase. It specifically targets and eliminates the dangerous visceral belly fat.

SPEAKER_00

And it overrides the evolutionary starvation response.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, giving you the biological drive and the physical energy to stay active when your body would otherwise tell you to shut down.

SPEAKER_00

That is an excellent synthesis. The data clearly demonstrates that while caloric restriction is necessary for the initial weight reduction, the hormonal environment is what dictates the quality, the composition, and the sustainability of that new body.

SPEAKER_01

It ensures the weight that stays off is the fat while the functional tissue is preserved.

SPEAKER_00

Exactly.

SPEAKER_01

Which brings me to a final thought I want to leave you with today. We started by talking about cleaning out a dark garage and accidentally throwing away your power tools.

SPEAKER_00

The sarcopenic trap.

SPEAKER_01

Right. But after looking at the depth of the science today, after seeing how fat actively secretes adipokines to cross the blood brain barrier, shut down your hypothalamus, suppress your testosterone, and drain your daily motivation, maybe that garage analogy isn't quite sinister enough. If your body's fat tissue can actively deploy inflammatory markers that suppress your most vital hormones, effectively fighting to keep you soft, we And lethargic so it can survive the diet? Are we thinking about obesity all wrong?

SPEAKER_00

That's an interesting way to look at it.

SPEAKER_01

Maybe fat isn't just a passive storage unit holding extra calories. Maybe it is a competing rogue organ, an organ actively fighting for its own survival inside you, using your own brain chemistry to make you sit on the couch so it doesn't get burned.

SPEAKER_00

Wow. A rogue organ.

SPEAKER_01

And if that's the case, we have to realize we aren't just trying to lose weight. We are trying to outsmart a biological entity that has hacked our system.

SPEAKER_00

That is a fascinating perspective to end on.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you so much for joining us on this deep dive. We hope this exploration into the BMC Medicine trial gives you a new perspective on the complex machinery of the human body. And remember, if you want help outsmarting that rogue organ, reach out to us at lifewellmd.com or call 561 210 9999. Keep asking questions, keep looking beneath the surface, and we will see you next time.