Southern Poverty Law Center Exposed!

A grand jury indited the Southern Poverty Law Center. We react to the press conference and the prediction from Matt Walsh that followed.

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SPEAKER_07 0:06

We are going to discuss uh the SPLC has been taking everybody's money and perpetuating the racism they vowed to destroy. You become what you hate. So welcome to Faith Fiction and Folklore, as or as we like to call it, the Tri-F podcast, where we try not to mess the podcast up. How are you, gentlemen, today?

SPEAKER_04 0:29

I'm rolling. Trevor? I have pie.

SPEAKER_07 0:32

You have pie. Okay. Well, on that beautiful, wonderful, stupendous, deep statement, you do have pie. Now I'm jealous and hungry. How dare you?

SPEAKER_05 0:43

Apple pie.

SPEAKER_04 0:44

Yep. You actually have pie?

SPEAKER_07 0:45

He actually has pie. He literally has pie.

SPEAKER_04 0:49

I really thought he was full of shit.

SPEAKER_07 0:50

I didn't. Yeah, I didn't believe him, and yet here we are. You jerk.

SPEAKER_04 0:55

He just says random things all the time. So I'm like, whatever you said is probably ridiculous.

SPEAKER_07 1:01

Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 1:02

But he actually had pie. I'm impressed. 3.14. Let's go.

SPEAKER_07 1:06

3.14. Here we go. All right. So here's what was announced. Here's what was announced earlier this week.

SPEAKER_05 1:17

Hey, Lucas.

SPEAKER_03 1:19

Good afternoon. Today, a few minutes ago, in the Middle District of Alabama, a grand jury returned an 11-count indictment charging the Southern Poverty Law Center with six counts of wire fraud, four counts of bank fraud, and one count of conspiracy to commit money laundering. According to the charges in the indictment, the SPLC is a nonprofit entity that purports to fight white supremacy and racial hatred by reporting on extremist groups and conducting research to inform law enforcement groups with the goal of dismantling these groups. As the indictment describes, the SPLC is dismantling these groups. Yes.

SPEAKER_04 2:06

But what happens when these groups dismantle the groups that they're trying to dismantle?

SPEAKER_07 2:13

They just pay them. They don't ever dismantle them. It's a fight without end.

SPEAKER_04 2:16

Right, but what happens if they actually dismantle the groups? The institution ceases to exist. Oh wow. So they have to propagate their existence by committing psyops.

SPEAKER_07 2:27

Exactly. Yes, you're right. Yeah. An institution exists to per perpetuate itself. Wonder of wonders.

SPEAKER_05 2:40

Every question.

SPEAKER_07 2:41

Yes.

SPEAKER_05 2:42

What does uh ESPLC SPLC?

SPEAKER_07 2:48

This is the Southern Poverty Law Center. The Southern Poverty Law Center is kind of like it's like a later version of media matters. And these guys basically declare everybody racist. This is the kind of think tank NGO bunch that are always accusing everybody and the dog of you know hating some minority. So, you know, Charlie Kirk was a racist, Matt Walsh was a racist, Glenn Beck is a racist, your mom is a racist, your chickens are racist. My chickens are racist. Your dogs are racist, you know. It's that bunch. And so they, you know, sit there and go, give us money, we're gonna end racism, and then they give that money to the KKK. So wonder of wonders. And uh from what I understand, they also, you know, funded Charlottesville. So they've been funding the quote unquote alt-right and the extreme right this entire time. It's like a whodunit.

SPEAKER_04 3:47

Quite ridiculous.

SPEAKER_07 3:48

Yeah, it's like a whodunit, and everybody saw the ending anyway, and it was still boring when the twist came.

SPEAKER_03 3:54

So it was instead manufacturing the extremism it purports to a sorry, what'd you say, Trevor?

SPEAKER_05 4:02

Oh, I was I was just singing do the twist.

SPEAKER_07 4:05

Oh, do the twist, okay. All right, hang in there, buddy.

SPEAKER_03 4:11

Sources to stoke racial hatred. The indictment describes this conduct in detail, but one troubling example is that the SPLC was paying a member of the leadership group that planned the Unite the Right protest in Charlottesville, Virginia in 2017 that resulted in the death of one person and injured dozens more. This particular person being paid by the SPLC allegedly received approximately$270,000 over the course of eight years. In total, according to the indictment, between 2014 and 2023, SPLC paid at least$3 million to eight individuals at least. These individuals were affiliated with the Ku Klux Klan. Sorry, what? I want to print stuff.

SPEAKER_07 5:14

Well, too bad. Printing's antiquated. So yeah, so they funded the Ku Klux Klan.

SPEAKER_03 5:21

United Clans of America, the Klug National Socialist Movement, Aryan Nations affiliated Sadistic Souls Motorcycle Club, the Nationalist Socialist Party of America, Nazis, and the American Front. Wait, now as the indictment lays out, yes, yes, they did.

SPEAKER_04 5:41

They created evil organizations, yes, it's so silly, dude. I know it's almost like it's a giant money racket. You almost can't make this stuff up, but you can't.

SPEAKER_07 5:53

Yes, you that's right. Was it uh reality is stranger than fiction?

SPEAKER_03 6:00

After SPLC paid members of these extremist groups, it created work product that reported on these activities that the members participated in or contributed to. And to that end, it was doing the exact opposite of what it's told its donors it was doing, not dismantling extremism, but funding it. To carry out this scheme, SPLC created bank accounts in the name of at least five completely fictitious organizations that had no bona fide employees or legitimate business purpose. The money was passed from SPLC to one sham account to a second sham account and then loaded onto prepaid cards to give to the members of the extremist groups. This was designed to shield the source of those funds, and because of this, SPLC is also charged with one count, as I said earlier, of conspiracy to commit money laundering. In conclusion, I want to thank the acting U.S. attorney in the Middle District of Alabama, Kevin Davidson, who's in his district right now and not able to be with us, for bringing this important case along with the FBI team in Alabama for their hard work during this investigation.

SPEAKER_07 7:16

This investigation is All right, so we're gonna call it good there. So, first thing I want to point out. You know who wouldn't have given a press conference and announced this and make a big show of it if they were still here? You know who wouldn't tell? Pam Bondy! You know the crazy woman that was fired and Wonder of Wonders two weeks after this. Now we're actually hearing about the NGO stuff again. It's almost like she was a saboteur. And this is why we kept giving Trump so much crap about it. It's not like I hate Trump, but you know, he hires the man means well, I think, but he hires stupid people sometimes. Saboteurs, because he doesn't want to admit that this is like actually a conspiracy and organized. And, you know, when he gets rid of the bad actors, when he gets rid of the deep state people and the rhino people and all of that, when he gets rid of the pences, things actually start getting done. And that's why I scream my head off about it. Not that that many people are listening with our 200 subscribers, but you know, that's why. It's not like I hate Trump. It's like when he gets good people in there, like Tulsi Gabbard and Robert F. Kennedy, like when he gets good people in there, there's progress made. And this is progress. This is what we need to see because this is the heart of the problem. Yeah. What we've screamed for forever is the same thing that Mike uh Benz was screaming. The intelligence agencies are using NGOs, things like the Southern Poverty Law Center, to push certain agenda items. And, you know, the idea that Americans are horribly racist and this desire to kick off a race war and all this crap. Like all of this is happening through NGOs. And this is what Doge was targeting. And it got quickly dismantled because it was targeting this exact thing. Now, I don't know how much is going to come of this, but this is a good sign. Todd Blanche is still a blank slate in my mind. I don't know if he's a good guy or a bad guy, but this is a very good sign to me, and I'm extremely happy about it because this is what is meant by the deep state. This is the thing that needs to be dismantled. And the SPLC is the tip of the iceberg. So I just wanted to have that rant because we've lost some subscribers and we got a mean comment about oh, you shouldn't be complaining about people MAGA like. Well, it's like Trump wanted to get rid of the deep state. You know? And it's not like we want Trump to succeed, but he can't succeed. This is an echo chamber. Yeah, right. We're supposed to be sycophants, though. You know, no, everything he does is right. Everything he does is right. Yeah, like when he talks about the Dow.

SPEAKER_04 10:05

Or when he or when he ran on draining the swamp, and then he was like, Oh, we're still talking about the Epstein files. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 10:12

But Epstein's tied to this too. Like this is all part of the same crap. And this is exactly what needs to be happening. This should have this press conference should have happened like eight months ago. But at least we're here now, and I'm happy to see it. This is a very, very good sign. This is like a sign to me that maybe, maybe we might be getting back on track. Because this is this kind of stuff is what needs to happen. So anyway, I just wanted to rant about that. So, because thank you. Because I'm glad Pam Bondy's gone, and this is why I wanted her gone. Because I wanted to see this.

SPEAKER_04 10:54

Because she was in the way.

SPEAKER_07 10:55

Exactly. Yeah.

SPEAKER_04 10:56

It was like, oh, look at me.

SPEAKER_07 10:58

I'm uh Yeah, it's like you don't want to hear about all these NGOs. Look at my blonde hair. Look at how blonde I am at 60 years old. Aren't I pretty? So anyway, so much much much was said, and there was a lot of different reactions. So I want to look at Matt Walsh's reaction here. I hope I can find the correct comment he made. Because there was very there was uh something Matt Walsh said that was almost prophetic. I know I'm jealous of that beard. That is like a beautiful beard. I envy it. That's a lot of oil and uh butter.

SPEAKER_02 11:39

Everything is a giant psyop that major events, the kind that dictate the course of American politics, are all fake and engineered. Then the news that broke yesterday was as close to a total vindication as you'll ever get. On the other hand, if you thought that color revolutions only happen overseas and that America is immune from successful campaigns of mass deception, all or Oh, that's another thing I needed to say.

SPEAKER_07 12:00

I forgot to say this. Uh, one of the reasons that we think it's intelligence operatives controlling these NGOs is because Alex Jones, Glenn Beck, Matt Walsh, a whole list of people have been insisting this is a color revolution, which is the same tactic that the intelligence agencies use in other countries to overthrow their governments. That's being implemented here. And so when you see everything kind of moving in one direction, i.e. this racial strife, people have been suspecting what is called a color revolution. They're attempting to color, they're attempting to create a color revolution here. That sounds like intelligence agencies moving behind the strings. So that's one of the reasons I suspect the CIA and FBI and NSA are kind of behind this, or certain people within those agencies are behind this. So I just wanted to mention that. The color revolution angle is one of the reasons why we suspect intelligence agencies.

SPEAKER_02 13:04

The Unite the Right rally in Charlottesville, Virginia was supposedly the defining moment of Donald Trump's first term in office. That's what we were told relentlessly for years on end by both political parties, along with every mainstream media outlet in the country, was a mask-off moment in which neo-Nazis, emboldened by Donald Trump, supposedly, violently rioted in the streets, killing an innocent woman in the process. And we were told Donald Trump endorsed.

SPEAKER_07 13:30

Yeah, they were all paid by the SBLC. That whole thing. Makes you mad.

SPEAKER_04 13:38

It didn't make me mad. It's just like Sounds about right.

SPEAKER_07 13:42

Yeah. But it's like we all knew. And nobody would look into it for a decade. It wasn't like it was a secret. Alex Jones literally screamed it a decade ago. He said it like a week after. Like, this is why it's even being talked about, and why I'm kind of grouping it in with conspiracy theories, because everybody knew. Everybody talked about it, and then nobody would do any investigation until now. It's frustrating. It's very frustrating.

SPEAKER_02 14:15

These neo-Nazis, live on National Television, calling them very sorry, what I said better night than Lever. Yeah. Yeah. Very fine people. That's what Joe Biden said when he launched his campaign for president, and about 10 million times after that, the rally was definitive proof that white supremacy was alive and well in the United States. Watch.

SPEAKER_00 14:48

Charlottetville is also home to a defining moment for this nation in the last few years.

SPEAKER_07 14:54

Alright, we'll play this.

SPEAKER_06 15:11

The entire time.

SPEAKER_04 15:18

Like, yeah, this is this is a put-up. This isn't like these aren't people.

SPEAKER_07 15:23

Yeah. Well, you know, I saw this in Seattle. Like, I don't remember exactly what it was about, but this had gotten so out of control that whenever there was protests in uh Seattle, they would like protest. One bank would like protest another bank. Like it was that kind of thing. You know what I mean? Like they they would, yeah, they would like do this almost like a gag. That's what it felt like to me because they'd be protesting some bank. I don't even remember what it was about, but it was some stupid, nuanced financial thing that wasn't a big deal at all. And there's no reason why people would be out protesting. But it wasn't even that. They had like laminated signs, you know, like these protesters. And I was part of the Tea Party movement. I at least a little bit. I took part in one protest outside a news station. And you know what we had for those protests? Magic markers. Like card little plastic cardboard laminated things you got at Walmart, a popsicle stick, and a magic marker. You know, that was our protesting. And these guys have like these giant elaborate banners and like laminated signs, and you're sitting there going, there's no way that's organic. I've been at an organic protest. There's no way this is organic at all. So it's just it was just ridiculous.

SPEAKER_05 16:43

So I've told you about the website you can rent a mall from.

SPEAKER_07 16:48

Yeah, yeah. And I remember when I was working for Joe, there was a guy we interviewed who did that. Like he uh he literally, you know, he was like a protester for hire. He had a company that was like protesting for hire, you know. So like like they would, yeah, they would pay people and ship them to make it look like a protest was bigger than it was. Like that's a that's a job. People do that. That should be illegal. I'm like, you can't just like just pay people to show up randomly. They do, and I guess that's what a union does as well.

SPEAKER_05 17:28

And they draw taxes on it too. Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 17:31

So I didn't want to SPLC. I didn't want to use this video because he doesn't like Benny Johnson. I like a lot of his news, but he's really bad about the click clickbait titles. And so this kind of creates a Joel Osteen on there, too.

SPEAKER_06 17:46

I don't know who that is.

SPEAKER_07 17:48

So I didn't want to do this because he doesn't name anybody. I didn't want to use this video, but I I don't think I think it's gonna take too long to find the exact spot on Matt Walsh's show. So I'm just gonna take Benny Johnson's clip because I do want to show Matt Walsh predicting the future.

SPEAKER_02 18:05

He did not fund them, they would not exist. And then Democrats would lose power and the FPLC would run out of money.

SPEAKER_08 18:13

I don't know what that was about. Who among you is the traitor? This is a great question.

SPEAKER_07 18:21

Hold on. I got this. Here we go.

SPEAKER_08 18:24

This week. And Matt Walsh is saying you gotta name names. We have to know who in the conservative ecosystem.

SPEAKER_07 18:35

So I guess I should preference this first. I didn't do a good enough job with that. So the other thing is people are beginning to suspect that certain right-wing influencers are being paid. So there's a psyop to add bad actors into the right-wing podcasting movement. So this is kind of fed into that suspicion, which, you know, that suspicion preceded the press conference by the FBI, but Matt Walsh extrapolated on that.

SPEAKER_08 19:04

Is the traitor. Who are the judices? Who is taking money from the hate groups in order to set up their fellow countrymen? Sometimes people just, you know, wanting to go and protest a stolen election, right? Like who was setting those people up? Matt Walsh is saying that there are traitors in our ranks. Here we go.

SPEAKER_02 19:24

Now it's the kind of strategy that's effective because unless you're extremely familiar with how depraved left-wing activists are, it would never occur to you that they're doing any of this. But they feel the need to do it because otherwise there there would be no right-wing hate groups. If the SPLC did not fund them, they would not exist. And then Democrats would lose power and the SPLC would run out of money.

SPEAKER_04 19:57

It depends on the creator.

SPEAKER_07 19:59

Depends on the creator. You think the creators are the ones doing this?

SPEAKER_04 20:02

Yeah, you pick how monetized you are.

SPEAKER_07 20:05

Well, this is getting out of control, man. I'm getting tired of it.

SPEAKER_02 20:10

That's the same reason that your um like your antivirus software bugs you all the time. If your antivirus software told you the truth, which is that you really don't need to pay for antivirus software anymore, then obviously nobody would subscribe. So instead, they pester you with fake threats and scare tactics. And it's kind of the same principle, except in the case of the SPLC, they were having a substantial effect on American politics. And the more you read this indictment, the more you realize how shameless it was. According to the DOJ, the SPLC was paying the same clan members that it was complaining about by name on its website. So I gotta say, as an aside, I'm starting to get a little frustrated because, again, I was also listed on their website of extremists. Uh, they put me on the list. They had my photo up and everything, and I was on their hate map as somebody who absolutely must be stopped. And yet, for all this, I wasn't paid a single cent at any point. I served as general hate without any compensation whatsoever. Meanwhile, the KKK wizards were just like raking it in. Now, of course, all kidding aside, SPLC was not uh offering money to genuine conservatives who are effective at advancing conservatism. The idea was to fund and prop up the alleged right-wingers who were useful to SPLC and the left. And I suspect that soon, whether through this investigation or those to come, we're gonna find out that there are a fair number of alleged conservative figures, the most embarrassing and ridiculous ones, who've been getting paid by the forces they pretend to oppose. You know, there's a symbiotic relationship between left-wing activist groups and the supposedly right wing grifters. And this relationship has always been obvious. Now we're learning about its financial dimensions.

SPEAKER_08 21:59

Matt Walsh. Saying we have to name names.

SPEAKER_07 22:02

So that was his prediction earlier in the week. And then, of course, I kind of thought it was, you know, good luck proving it type of deal, but then something very interesting happened. Let me see if I can find it here. Alrighty. So this was Jeremy from D-Day Cobra the next day.

SPEAKER_01 22:29

I wasn't sure. I was like, mmm, I'm not totally sure that this is legit. Well, guess what? Uh, I think that there's a little bit more to it. Because Ian Carroll, someone that I have complained about a lot. Candace Owens, someone I've complained about a lot. And Nick Fuentes, someone I've talked about a lot, they all are kind of disappearing after the news of the SPLC investigation. Hmm. Very, very interesting.

SPEAKER_07 23:15

So, yes, all three of them vanished right after the investigation. They decided to take a hiatus. This was uh Candace's Owens uh tweet. So we got no show today. Sorry. I thought I had announced I was traveling with my family. See you guys next week.

SPEAKER_05 23:37

She always does a show, no matter what.

SPEAKER_06 23:39

Yeah. They're just out of the wild blue yonder all of a sudden, and she's gone.

SPEAKER_04 23:45

So I don't know if you can't keep up the facade for even one day after stopping the money flow, even though she's married to royalty. That doesn't make sense. She didn't care about that.

SPEAKER_06 23:57

I don't know what was going on.

SPEAKER_07 23:59

But it just so happened the next day after the SPLC and after Matt Walsh had predicted it, she's like, oh, I forgot to tell you guys. It's a vacation. I'm gone. See you next week. Very weird timing. Very weird timing. Don't know she's being paid, but weird timing. So Candace Owens had to this is Laura Loomer, who I guess they're having a tiff. Uh Candace Owens had abruptly had to abruptly cancel her show today and travel abroad. She never alerted her audience of her travel plans. So, yes, and then she insists that uh now she's saying, let's see here. Interesting how she's fleeing the country the same day I reported that her Zionist Jewish lawyer dropped her ahead of an important deadline in her lawsuit with the Macron's next week. Remember, I exposed her secret trust when she's hiding nearly where she's hiding nearly$12 million in real estate among the assets. Her other lawyers' firm specializes in bankruptcy. Is she moving her money abroad and hiding assets abroad so she can file for bankruptcy? She's fleeing the country. So so people are saying it, yeah. I don't think that's what it is. I think it's the SPLC thing. But we'll read the whole thing in, you know, the spirit of disclosure. But she thinks it's apparently she thinks it's her moving$12 million. But anyway, bottom line is next day she was gone. Now, let me see here. Ian Carroll had an interesting Ian Carroll had another interesting tweet. So something funny, good sir. I'll look this up.

SPEAKER_04 25:44

Oh, that little clip of the Erica. Erica Carolina.

unknown 25:49

Yeah.

SPEAKER_07 25:49

Yeah. Ian Carroll is that his name. Okay, so Ian Carroll. Alright, how do the trunk? Let's see if I can find it. Nope, I think it's gone. Anyway, Ian Carroll said that because somebody died, he was he was gone for a while. And nobody bought that. And then I don't know if Nick Fuentes has actually said anything or not. But he too disappeared. So no, he's just complaining about Trump here. Okay, so this is his response for the uh SPLC thing, though. We will read this really quick. So, the new line that I worked with the SPLC is the laziest fed jacketing narrative yet. I was 18 when I went to Charlottesville. That's the other thing. Nick Fuentes was actually at Charlottesville when it happened. So, and then he got very popular afterwards. So people are going, Nick, was it you, buddy? And he's going, that is an absurd lie. The SPLC doxed my house in 2022, which led me to almost getting murdered, got me censored, that's true, doxed my interns, and got friends of mine fired from their jobs. So he is saying that SPLC wasn't paying him. The other two are not denying it, they just fled. But apparently Nick Fuentes is Yeah, he's that's more of a denial than the other two. So you remember when uh he almost got murdered?

SPEAKER_04 27:38

Like I don't follow him. So Reddit Troll like came to his house with a gun.

SPEAKER_07 27:43

Was it a Reddit troll or was it the SPLC? Somebody connected to them?

SPEAKER_04 27:48

I it was it was it was the SPLC thing. But it was I I don't I don't know. It was like the Reddit troll type, you know?

SPEAKER_07 27:59

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_04 28:00

Just a gooned out weirdo.

SPEAKER_07 28:03

Gotcha. So that's Nick Fuentes's response. Time will tell. Anyway, apparently they're all gone. That's very strange time timing that they would all three leave at once. But maybe he isn't. Who knows? So that is the situation. I mean, I was kind of suspecting that somebody was getting paid, but I just didn't know who. I'll tell you what would be funny. It would be really funny. I'm not saying this is true, but it would be really funny to me if both Nick Fuentes and Tucker Carlson turned out to be feds because they were accusing each other of being feds. That would just make that interview hilarious. It'd be like Spider-Man pointing at other Spider-Mans. It'd just be so it'd just make me so happy if they were both feds.

SPEAKER_06 28:51

So maybe that's why the interview was so civil. It's like, you're a fed? Well, I'm a fed too. Let's be besties. So that would just make me smile.

SPEAKER_07 29:05

But who knows? Who knows? So that is the situation with uh yeah, with uh the SPLC. Now, the last thing I wanted to do before we close out tonight, the just uh just to quell my own curiosity, is back in 2022, I wrote an article about Charlottesville. And to be honest, I don't remember what I actually thought. Whether I thought it was something that uh was a legitimate organic movement, or whether it was something that um was like the SPLC paid for. I don't even know if I mentioned it. But I wanted, but I was, you know, asked to write an article about Charlottesville, and so I chose to write an article about where the ideology comes from. And so that led me down a rabbit hole. And so I thought it would be interesting to just read my article from two years ago and make fun of me if I said something stupid. It would make me happy. I don't know if it'd make anybody else happy, but it'd make me happy. So all right. Let's see if three years ago, let's see if four-year-old me was a the me from four years old from four years ago was a moron. So yeah. In his new book, Darwinian racism, how Darwinism influenced uh Hitler, Nazism, and White Nationalism, historian Richard Weichart devotes chapter to explaining the continuing influence of Darwinian racism in American society today, including its connections to the alt-right. It's a topic that we've covered before at Evolution News, but it deserves more attention. Unfortunately, in recent years, the term alt-right has been misused as something of a catch-all for conservatism. That's a slander. Most conservatives have nothing to do with the actual alt-right. In reality, the alt-right has an ideology of its own, a mix of both left-leaning and right-leaning elements. But their various positions are united by one belief that the white race is genetically superior. And as Weichart points out, points, as Weichart points, they draw toxic inspiration from the claims of Darwinian biology. Understanding the alt-right and claiming that the white race is superior, alt-right articles and podcasts cite certain early 20th century social Darwinists. Three of these thinkers are Madison Grant, Sir Francis Galton, and Lothrop Studdard. These, the last of these three, perhaps a less familiar man, served as a director for Margaret Sanger's Planned Parenthood. The ideas of the social Darwinists permeate the alt-right ideology. Some years ago, Richard Spencer, an alt-right writer, most notably recognized for his role in Charlottesville, Unite the Right demonstration of 2017. Now he might have been one of the guys they were directly paying. Spencer, because after Charlottesville, he vanished. He completely vanished. So interviewed thinker and painter Jonathan Bowden on Spencer's podcast, Vanguard. The episode is titled The E-Word Eugenics and Environmentalism, Madison Grant and Lothurb Stuttered. During their interview, Spencer and Bodman not only detail not only detail the history of the eugenics movement, they defend it, even attempting to corner connect eugenics with both abortion and environmentalism, using Grant as their justification. They argue that if the left could only embrace the notion that some men and women are genetically inferior, then they could deal with the environment effectively. Academic language and a harsh message. During the podcast, Bowden states, if one eskews the politics of human rights in a grandstanding and universalist way and sees human identity and glory in very much an individual or localized manner, then deep green and ecological ideas have a lot to say to all forms of conservatism that wish to preserve and restore as against that which is transitory and that which is to our end and which is purely and only concerned with human life to the detriment of the ecology without which mankind could subsist. These men have a habit of using academic language to mask their harsh message. What he's basically saying is that if we just get rid of this troublesome notion of human rights, we could deal with the overpopulation and save the environment. When it comes to abortion, both Bowden and Spencer consider it a backwards form of eugenics. As Spencer explains, they, the elites, are in some ways pursuing negative eugenics in the sense that they are certainly much more willing to abort a child with Down syndrome and or so on. And that, of course, can be described, can be discovered in the womb. In some ways, one could also, one could also suggest that eugenics is still living on. And Bowdoin adds, I also think it's important to realize that essentially what's happened is that two concepts have been conflated into one another in order to summarily dispatch both. This is the idea of eugenics as against disgenics. Dysgenics, which is, if you like, the negative side effects of side of eugenics, whereby you act as where you act, though, as to prevent harm, but you also act as to, in some senses, prevent life through abortion or through selective contraceptives or through sterilization. The proactive and yet sort of snip-oriented, snip-oriented, and negative side of eugenics is its really controversial feature. The wholesome side, the building people, the building people up, the tonics for the brave sort of side, is one which only the most nihilistic and sordid left-winger would be opposed to because they find new nauseous the idea of happy, athletic, intellectual, precocious families beaming for the camera in an Osman-liked way, you know. Both Bowden and Spencer blame the public's rejection of eugenics on the move away from Galton's understanding of Darwinism after the Second World War. Spencer says, you were talking about the academic side of the issue and the fact that so many of these researchers who were quite predisposed to Galton, Darwinian Darwinism, eugenics, that switched. Is that part of the so-called Bosnian revolution in anthropology? What I mean is that, of course, Franz Bonds, who was a sworn enemy of Madison Grant. Bowdoin affirms it's Spencer's suspicion and uh Bowden affirms Spencer's suspicion and then adds a revealing statement about the motive behind this switch. He comments, yes, I do think it happened in a certain context, though. I think that people who supported eugenics found that unless they found a different vocabulary for it, their support couldn't be sustained in polite society. Okay, so that is extremely long. Oh, wait, oh I'm almost done. I'm sorry, I almost gave up there. So hang on. Eugenics is a worthy practice. Regarding this switch, the two conclude their conversation when Spencer says, When you had baby boomers in our generation, you were essentially having people who were influenced by Bosnian anthropology. They did not think in terms of Galton and let's call it classical Darwinism. Really, those people lost the battle, and this is the reason why eugenics is kind of vanished after the Second World War. These two think eugenics was a worthy practice, and they lament that it is no longer openly used. Spencer surmises his thoughts on the subject. What do you think about our unique ability to reclaim conserve uh conservatism or naturalism, and how much, like Grant, that should be a major cause for us, which is to keep the world green and beautiful and to fight things like a terrible overpopulation that you see in some kind of horrifying city like Mexico City or Sao Sao Paulo. We want to quantify we want quality over quality. We want to live on a beautiful earth. Sorry, were you gonna say something, Cody? No. Oh, I thought I heard somebody. I'm reading so fast I'm barely registering what I'm reading. I'll go ahead and stop. I gotta say, the me from four years ago is smarter than the me now. I don't even know what I'm saying. So that happens sometimes. As best as I can tell, I think what I was getting at here was basically that they used abortion to replace eugenics. That seems to be the idea. But what's interesting is that Spencer.

SPEAKER_04 37:25

I would agree with that.

SPEAKER_07 37:26

Yeah. But Spencer was pushing abortion, which is a leftist policy, and yet he's considered part of the alt-right. That kind of lends to lends credence to the idea that the SBLC was paying him or something, because these guys were secretly leftists, but they were trying to can you know merge ideologies or something.

SPEAKER_04 37:46

Well, I mean, if you're on one side, you want to get rid of the other side. So if you're like alt-right, you want to get rid of all the left, you know.

SPEAKER_07 37:54

Yeah. So why have abortion? Yeah. So why have abortion? You know, why I don't know. I think they're just trying to infect the movement, I think.

SPEAKER_04 38:04

So no, he's he's pushing abortion because that's the people he wants gone. He wants the right people, the the alt-right people to live. That's eugenics.

SPEAKER_07 38:14

Yeah. Well, abortion is uh concentrated around minorities. You know what I mean? So that's kind of what from his perspective, it's like that's why we want abortion, because we want to you know kill off the minorities, that kind of thing. But that's not a right policy. So it's like by they're calling him alt-right, but I'm like, you can't be on the right if you're like you can't be that on the right if you're forwarding.

SPEAKER_04 38:41

It's all demon shit, dude. There's no left, right. It's all demon shit. That's true. That's true. They want human sacrifice. That's it.

SPEAKER_07 38:48

They want human sacrifice. Well, they want the authority to kill. You know, that's what they're all about. They they like the idea of uh being able to kill without consequence. So control. Well, I'm somewhat relieved. I was afraid I was gonna say something to the effect of the alt-right created Charlottesville. Thankfully, I just stuck to the history, but it's been so long I don't remember all the details. But uh, yeah, it's surreal. Get late, boys. Yeah, it's surreal reading an article like that. It is getting late. Anyway, so that's the SPLC. I'm glad that they're gonna hopefully go to jail. I'm glad that a jury indicted them. And uh, I consider this a step in the right direction, which is good because we've had like 14 months of crap. So hopefully we start shifting. But anyway, so Trevor, you got any final thoughts? You're awfully quiet.

SPEAKER_05 39:48

Hopefully, we start shifting.

SPEAKER_07 39:50

Yeah, and I apologize for reading so fast. I was just trying to get through it, but then I got lost and I just kept going. So, yeah. Okay, well, I think that's everything I've got. Any I guess any final thoughts?

unknown 40:07

Nope.

SPEAKER_07 40:08

All right, I don't have any either. Okay, guys, we're gonna wrap it up for the night. Tonight kind of derailed a little bit, but that's okay. Glad Trump's alright, glad everybody's okay, and you know, hopefully this will be the last one because this is getting disquieting. But anyway. All right, that's all we got, guys. Thank you so much for watching. We'll see you next time.

SPEAKER_04 40:33

Thank you.

SPEAKER_07 40:38

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