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Update on the Pastors and their Alien Thing
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On this Episode we find out the Preachers who said they got insight About the Aliens were not honest, seems like they made it all up.
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Welcome to Faith Fiction and Folklore, or as we like to call it, the Tri F podcast, where we try not to F the podcast up, which we've done already today. Yeah. Because we had an echo and now we're having echoes of aliens. Because Perry Stone, some weird hard-hearted preacher, is talking about aliens. And that's ridiculous because there's no aliens in the Bible. So I don't know what else to say, Gary. How are you?
SPEAKER_07Oh, I'm good, man. I'm I'm alright.
SPEAKER_15How are you?
SPEAKER_07Pretty good.
SPEAKER_12There were aliens in the Bible.
SPEAKER_06Where?
SPEAKER_12They were the Nephilim. Those aren't aliens. They're demons. Exactly.
SPEAKER_06They're all demons. It's all demons.
SPEAKER_15Demons in the CIA.
SPEAKER_06And the CIA.
SPEAKER_12Any three-letter organization.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. So, okay, last week we talked about this a little bit, but because I didn't um have it like access to OBS and all that, we kind of just spoke about whether or not the existence of aliens would hypothetically affect Christians' faith. I think we decided it wouldn't make any difference at all. So this week we're basically going to talk about what actually happened. And what happened is basically this guy, Perry Stone, came out with this dramatic announcement, and he's like, I have I went to a government meeting, or maybe, or I knew a guy that went to a cover government meeting. I'm not going to get this right, but it's okay. We have Mike Winger will play his statement here in a minute. But uh he's like, I went to a government meeting, and they're saying churches need to prepare because there's gonna be a great falling away. Because they're gonna talk about the aliens are coming, and you know, Christians are gonna give up on God and all this. And this and then all of a sudden, these other preachers dogpile on what Perry Stone says and go, Yeah, we were there, we heard the whole thing, they said that, and then it blew up and blew up, and apparently they can get away with this crap in their churches. That's kind of Mike Winger's theory, is they can get away with this kind of over-exaggerating what actually happened. But once it got viral, then people started looking, and the first hint of trouble was a senator from they they they'd said a senator from Missouri had given them the speech to warn their people. And then the spin the senator was like, I never said any of that. And then they were like, Oh, well, I mean, uh, I'm sorry. That's what I thought you said, you know, and that was the deal. And you know, hilarity ensued. So yeah, so let me just start off with Mike Winger's. Uh I think this is right. No, this is my face palming video. Hang on. Here we go. So Mike Winger's.
SPEAKER_15You're gonna pull up a video of Mike Wiener?
SPEAKER_07Stop it. We just read the Bible.
SPEAKER_15Grow up.
SPEAKER_07Grow up. How dare you! Alright. Hang on here.
SPEAKER_15It's a great joke. I know I've told it before, but Mike Wiener is blarous.
SPEAKER_07Mike Winger is Mike Winger. So. Alright, here we go. I'm sorry, I just have to fix OBS. No, I wouldn't say that. I wouldn't go that far. So just, you know, if you want to watch the video for yourself, because we're not going to play the whole thing, um, it's how if you charismatic pastors went viral with deception. And I I'm I didn't know anybody else who'd actually done the deep dive on what actually happened, because I don't know anything about the charismatic world.
SPEAKER_15I don't screw up your camera for a second.
SPEAKER_07That's alright. You know, we had that whole conversation about bigs, and uh that was it. So, yeah. But here is Mike Winger, and uh, I think he's gonna play Perry Stone's statement here.
SPEAKER_01The topic.
SPEAKER_00But there were uh a large number of pastors that had been invited to go to a certain state to hear some men in the United States government and others share with them a concern that they had. And this particular man, and I'll not name him, and then we may end up doing some teachings with him or having an event at his church yes, great church, but he said, Perry, what you're what they're about to release from what we're hearing, there's going to be a release concerning aliens and concerning uh unidentified flying object spacecraft that some of the people who were in the meeting were telling us as pastors. Hang on, you need to prepare your people and you need to get what'd you say, Cody?
SPEAKER_15This guy's exhausting. He's lying, he's full of shit.
SPEAKER_07Well, it's easy to say that in hindsight, Cody.
SPEAKER_15I could have thought and said it in four. He's wearing a fucking affliction button-up shirt.
unknownAll right, okay.
SPEAKER_06I mean, come on. Okay, is that the only tell? His uh his uh his button-up shirt?
SPEAKER_14All his all his references are vague. He's like, oh, a certain person from a certain state said a certain thing about something or another, and it's really scary. It's like, shut up.
SPEAKER_04That's exactly what Mike Winger points out.
SPEAKER_07Later on, he says the exact same thing. He says, um, okay, if you meet with the president or you meet with a bunch of people, you name drop, you say president, you say senator, you don't go, I met with a bunch of government leaders. I'm not gonna tell you who they are, but they're a big deal. He doesn't have any names in his head. Exactly, exactly.
SPEAKER_15He's like, just full of shit. You hate him. You hate him. I don't hate him.
SPEAKER_07Okay, it's righteous hate. So sorry.
SPEAKER_06Calic says, I mean religious leaders, so all right, here we go.
SPEAKER_00Ready to answer them for what you're about to hear being released. And some of it has to do with crafts that have been discovered that are not allegedly a part of our planet, and the materials they're made of are not a part of our planet. Um very strange reptilian-looking creatures and other things that almost sound like something out of a sci-fi movie or Orson Wells book.
SPEAKER_07I just want to point out, and it's just because I've been doing all this research for uh yeah, for the Vi project, it wasn't Orson Wells, it was H.G. Wells. Anybody can make a mistake, but I just wanted to point out it's H.G. Wells, not Orson Wells, just so we're clear. Anyway, sorry, go on, Cody. Were you gonna say something?
SPEAKER_15No, I'm I'm just writhing in misery. Misery? Dude, I can't listen to this guy. He's like, he's just like spewing shit. I can't.
SPEAKER_07Well, I everybody took this really serious at the beginning of the week. I don't, yes, they did. I don't know why. I mean, if I had known it was this crowd, I probably wouldn't have. But at the beginning, I was going, what, really? Because I didn't know it was this charismatic bunch. Yes, I see the shirt. Oh, he's got a he's got a fancy crow. Okay, what about the shirt? You're more offended about the shirt than the aliens. What about this shirt that offends you?
SPEAKER_15He's like, oh, look how cool my shoulders look. He like this guy's not even married because his wife wouldn't let him out of the house and that shit. That's ridiculous.
SPEAKER_06He's like that.
SPEAKER_15The whole dude, the whole his his whole everything screams, I'm fake.
SPEAKER_07Uh Calyx says, I don't trust a guy wearing an Ed Hardy shirt.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, my sentiments exactly.
SPEAKER_06Oh man. Well, Trevor, what do you think?
SPEAKER_12How about what?
SPEAKER_07Is the shirt as offensive to you as it is to Cody and Calyx?
SPEAKER_12I like his shirt, but I wouldn't wear it.
SPEAKER_15You should get made fun of by your cousin. Probably. That's what men are for, man. We give each other pressure.
SPEAKER_07There we go. Yeah. Keep each other accountable and prevent the wearing of acid stained jeans.
SPEAKER_15Unless it was real acid that you spilled on him that day.
SPEAKER_07Yes, unless you earned it with a chemical burn. Then you can wear the jeans.
SPEAKER_12So was this the original video that was released that made people believe that?
SPEAKER_07Yes, this is this is the first one. Yeah, Mike Winger is playing the first one. Yeah, I can't believe it because.
SPEAKER_15Like the background stuff, like, oh my. This is clearly a deception.
SPEAKER_12Yeah, no, like I'm first listening to it without thinking about it. I'm like, guys. Like it there's yeah, no, he he didn't make sense. And there was nothing that would like. I don't believe him.
SPEAKER_15Yeah. He's seeding right. He's like, he's like, oh, look at this vague idea. It's probably real.
SPEAKER_05Top men. Top men. Yeah. I spoke to top men.
SPEAKER_12Like this is this is one of those videos I would have been like, yeah, I'm gonna research this myself and probably find nothing.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, because a lot of people have claimed this. What's different though is everybody dogpiled on this and went, oh yeah, I was there too.
SPEAKER_15So it's just so low level. Like like this is just I I don't even have to try to see the deception in this.
SPEAKER_12Yeah. And like. So this guy's a a a pastor, a leader of like, how big is his church?
SPEAKER_07I don't know how big it is. We'll look it up. But he's leader of the charismatic movement. He's kind of in the um uh Kenneth Copeland type circles, you know, prophecy circles. Tell me he's in Tulsa. We'll see. Let me look that up. I'm gonna laugh hysterically. We're going to his church if he's in Tulsa. Yeah. Yeah. Alright, let's see here. Perry Stone. Um church size and location.
SPEAKER_15Let's try to tag him in this in this video when we post it.
SPEAKER_07Just so you can just so we can know how much you hate that shirt. Yep. Alright. Evangelist Perry Stone. Alright, we're going to AI again. Evangelist Perry Stone's main ministry. Base operates from a 70,000 square. Well, that's not what I asked, guys. What's the size of his denomination or congregation? And where is he from?
SPEAKER_1270,000 square feet.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, they're just going, okay, so Cleveland, Tennessee. 3,000 seat auditorium. Yeah, so it's a charismatic church out of Tennessee.
SPEAKER_15I've driven to Tennessee a few times. We could do that.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yeah, we can make it. We can make it. I've been there once.
SPEAKER_15I bet he won't talk to anybody though.
SPEAKER_07Oh no. We'll get kicked out. You remember when Benny Hinn. Right, right. Remember Benny Hinn ran over that guy with a golf cart? Remember that? We're gonna get hit by a golf cart. Will that make us go viral finally? So I'll do it.
SPEAKER_15I don't want to go viral. That sounds yucky.
SPEAKER_07I'll do it for the clicks and the laughs. Why not? Maybe we can steal a shirt.
SPEAKER_15So I don't even believe in viruses, Gary.
SPEAKER_07Viral, okay. Computer.
SPEAKER_15I guess so, yeah, viral is a proper term for a computer, but not for a human. There you go. In my opinion.
SPEAKER_07It's just a bit of broken RNA or mutating.
SPEAKER_12So would you say you want to go antiviral?
SPEAKER_07Okay, we're ch we're we're we're chasing a rabbit right now. Viral antiviral. It's all aliens. So, which are all CIA. So anyway, this is Perry Stone. Uh Charismatic Cleveland, Tennessee. Big church, big audience. So yeah. Any questions?
SPEAKER_12Does the CIA pay this guy?
SPEAKER_15Yes. Probably. 100%. They paid him to make this video.
SPEAKER_07You know, I I know that sounds absurd and we say that as a joke, but I honestly do wonder how this charismatic is. I wasn't joking at all. You know, uh well, I usually am joking, but you're not joking. Okay. I think it's a perfectly uh decent explanation because I don't have a better one. I'm like, how in the world do these guys have so much money? I mean, they have taken over TVN, they have taken over Daystar. Like, these guys run the charismatic movement. How is that possible?
SPEAKER_12Well because the Go ahead.
SPEAKER_15The CIA, like, I don't think like this guy doesn't know the CIA is paying him. Like, the devil is funding his church, right? It's not like a I'm not even sure it's like systematic in the real world. Like, it's systematic demonically. Like Satan tells these people what to do and where to send money and stuff. Like, it's not it's not like people are doing it. I don't believe that. I think Satan is doing it. So like Satan tricks these people to going into his church to fund this, and so he becomes an ideologue. Like, it's literally that.
SPEAKER_07I don't know if I buy that, but I understand what you mean. Like, I think I think on the um meta level, you're right. You know, on the the on the level of the thing.
SPEAKER_15Because I'm not trying to paint a bad guy, man. Like, I don't want anybody to be mad at a govern a three-letter government organization, because it's like what are you gonna do? Like, it's the devil. It starts in here. It starts in here.
SPEAKER_07I'm just thinking, practically speaking, uh, I wouldn't be surprised if there was like a shell company, Raptuff in an enigma, wrapped off in a bagel shop, you know. That's paying. Yeah, that's giving him big like six degrees, Kevin Bacon, weird corporations that go back to the Fed eventually. Like, I figure it's gotta be something like that because I I know there are dumb people out there, but I cannot imagine there being enough dumb people to fund this. Maybe I'm wrong, but I'm like. Yeah, this dude's obviously hokey.
SPEAKER_15The gate is narrow, man.
SPEAKER_07I guess. Uh apparently the bar is very, very well, anyway. Okay, so that's uh let's read this article from the Baptist News Global, because I was hoping to find something. Hang on, my stupid window's all out of whack again. I was hoping to find something that uh kind of broadly described the story. So I figured we'd read this really quick. Um this was May 8th. Or is this a week? This better not be a week old. Oh, it's a week old. This just happened. Alright.
SPEAKER_12This week.
SPEAKER_07Uh, let's see. Let's see if they kind of No, that was a that was the week of the podcast. That's when all this fell apart. We're still good. Okay, so the rumors are real. Pastor Mike Signorelli wrote on X. I was brought into a private meet briefing with other pastors. No phones, no cameras, no recordings. We were told plainly, disclosure is coming, and what follows will shake the faith of many. If pastors don't start preparing their people now, it will be too late. Now there's a reason you've never like heard of this, like or saw anything of that impressive. W the the cloth the most impressive thing we saw is a uh infrared shot of a d of a flare that they tried to say was the like wheel of Ezekiel or something. But you could see the smoke billowing from behind the flare and the parachute falling in the background. So it was clearly infrared, and they just inverted the the flame. So it it that was the that was the best we got. The rest of it was like like our like I said last week, our footage is more compelling than all the other stuff they put out. Yeah, it's that embarrassing.
SPEAKER_15They just have to sew dissent. Like they just have to like put an idea out there and hope people like COVID. I think COVID was that. I don't think COVID was anything. I don't think it was real. It was like literally just people fearing it.
SPEAKER_07That one I actually think that might be legitimate because it's like it's like whatever you believe happens.
SPEAKER_15Literally what Jesus says. Whatever you believe happens. So if you're afraid of COVID, it might not even be real. Or Hontavirus, it not even not even you know what hanta means in Hebrew?
SPEAKER_05No.
SPEAKER_15Fake! Look it up. Not even kidding.
SPEAKER_07Are you serious?
SPEAKER_15It means a deception. Yes.
SPEAKER_07Honta means I'm googling it. Look it up. Uh oh my gosh, I'm gonna laugh so hard if that's true. Hang on.
SPEAKER_15Um, it's just an idea. They have to sew an idea, and like sometimes it sticks, sometimes it doesn't. Like right before COVID happened, they had the chain shortage.
SPEAKER_08Uh-huh.
SPEAKER_15And I was like, this is ridiculous. They just want to make you scared of something. That's it.
SPEAKER_07Okay, so uh it's say how do you spell haunted?
SPEAKER_15H-A-N-T-A.
SPEAKER_07H-A-N-T-A. Okay. AI, where did you hear this? Because AI is denying that that's actually.
SPEAKER_15Don't look at AI. Look at the definition of Hunter.
SPEAKER_07Okay, where? Like I need this. Let me look for site. Dictionary.com. Dictionary.com. Alright, we'll do that. Dictionary. Because this would be.
SPEAKER_15It's old enough for me on Google, but.
SPEAKER_07This would be an instance where you need to not trust AI. Okay, so Honta. Just give me the definition. Uh it means. Is there a way to pick the language?
SPEAKER_15Honta in Hebrew?
SPEAKER_07Yeah, Honta in Hebrew. Let's see. Maybe if I just type that, that'll be enough.
SPEAKER_15That's what I did.
SPEAKER_07They've already scrubbed it, Cody.
SPEAKER_05Ooh, Gary. CIA.
SPEAKER_07It's always the CIA. So, alright. Yeah, it's saying it's not I'm not getting any of it.
SPEAKER_15Really? Mm-hmm. I literally Googled it like two days ago.
SPEAKER_07It is saying that the word has gone viral for fake. So, but it's not Hebrew. It's saying the term is just being equivocated with fake. That's what AI is explaining.
SPEAKER_15It's changed since I looked at it, dude. That's hilarious.
SPEAKER_07Oh my goodness.
SPEAKER_05Dead internet, bro.
SPEAKER_07I just saw a post- Oh, oh, oh, oh, we got, we got, we got uh yeah. Oh, you're just being anti-Semitic. Now again, I I am not saying that this is actually a Hebrew word. I'm not I'm not saying anything at all. I am just saying if Cody got one answer, and then there was another, AI is already on it. Your benevolent overlords are there to establish the narrative for you, whatever the truth may be. So that's all I'm saying. So it's claiming that the Hebrew scam claim, like that's not a loaded term, recently a viral, and again, I don't know if this is true or not. I'm not saying it's true. Recently a viral rumor circulated on social media claiming honta means scam or fake in Hebrew slang. While some linguists and native speakers have noted a quad a coincidental photonic similarity to karta, a completely different Arabic borrowed slang word for nonsense or bullshit, the claim that hanta translates to scam in Hebrew is wide is a widespread misconception and linguistic meetup. Okay, guys, just as a teachable moment for propaganda, when you see scam apologetics. Well, yeah, well, when you see scam in the headline, and then you've got mix-up down here, implying you know there's nuance, that's called burying the lead. So, just so you know, there's a trade. So it sounds like Carta got conflated with um with Honta. So there you go. I think that that aspect of it's probably. Legitimate, but this whole over harsh language, and then later explaining the mix-up, that's like go-to liberal bull crap tactic. So yeah. Um, but the but the bot the base facts are probably right, I would say.
SPEAKER_15If I were to guess to find a book, I don't know.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, we may have to go back to physical media alone because they're they're they're getting faster.
SPEAKER_15Dude, it's so fast. I'm not kidding. That was like three to four days ago when I looked that up and it has all changed.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's a little creepy.
SPEAKER_12We need to get an encyclopedia and look it up.
SPEAKER_07Anyway, so I don't think it has any uh Hebrew roots or anything, nor do I think that if it were Hebrew, it would imply anything, except that the CIA did it. All I will say is that if you believe the Hontavirus is an issue, you're an idiot.
SPEAKER_15And you'll probably get sick.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, as the saying goes. Uh Calyx9398 says, I also heard that from another person. So yeah, the the rumors, the rumors sprang up, be it true or false, and then the powers that be were like right away. That's a little spooky. Because they if even if this is wrong, yeah, even if this is wrong, the fact that they can do that means they can shut down something that's right in the future. So bear that in mind.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, it's all a mess, dude. It's just it's it's like word spells. I don't even know if they I don't even know if that's on purpose.
SPEAKER_12Like word spelling, like what's on purpose.
SPEAKER_15Like they like they named it hauntivirus and they didn't realize what it actually meant, kind of thing.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, that's providence. It's like signaling.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, yeah, right. It's like God's way of showing her hand for us.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I agree. I agree with that. Caleb's 9398 says the gatekeepers of information. Yeah, there shouldn't be gatekeepers.
SPEAKER_15That's the whole problem with all of this. Gary said they're even scrubbing the Wayback Machine. Like they're scrubbing everything. It's crazy.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. A thousand yeah, like when I was doing research on a project, yeah, I couldn't get stuff on the Internet Archive anymore, and that's one of my major play go-to places for info. So uh that was terrifying. They're turning us back into the they're they're trying to get that three-letter network.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, the information age is coming to an end. That's what's happening.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, they're trying to shut it down because they know. Like they they want those three, they want those three three-letter networks back, you know? They they are so mad that people can talk about they can that people can debate and talk about stuff now. They hate it. They hate that you watch long form podcasts, they hate that you can look up information, they hate that I can actually write a book without needing to go to a library. Like I can sit down and research things from hundreds of years ago at my computer. They hate that. They despise that. And who's do they? The CIA, the government, the people you pay and voted for. They hate you and they hate that you can do research. So, rant over. Because this is not a political show. I'd hate to confuse the communist algorithm. So, anyway. Alright, let's get back to our article. Rant over, I guess. So, alright. Alright, we've all seen the movies in Arrival. Investigators must figure out how to communicate with aliens. And E.T., the extraterrestrial. A child befriends an alien and helps the alien come back to their family. District 9 imagine imagines aliens uh beings be uh aliens being sent to a run-down government camp. Independence day explores the human desire to survive in the face of the far superior alien technology. The summer this summer, Steven Spielberg is releasing the his latest alien sci-fi thriller disclosure day, but Spielberg says he his he believes his latest movie his latest movie is close is way closer to truth than fiction. Now I have to stop here because Steven Spielberg is one of the most Fabian socialist, creepy SO. Not a good dude, clearly working for the CI. Okay. I have more reasons. No, a cute they say Kubrick did the moon landing.
SPEAKER_08Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_07But here's the thing. He bel he is one of these guys that believes in transcendence through aliens. And you can see that through AI Artificial Intelligence.
SPEAKER_15Oh, Spielberg did 2001, right?
SPEAKER_07Kubrick did 2001.
SPEAKER_15Really? That was both Kubrick. Okay.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. But here's the thing AI Artificial Intelligence, Steven Spielberg and Kubrick were buddies. Yeah. And so Spielberg was fit basically wrote and directed Kubrick's last project. Kubrick had a bunch of story notes and different things for AI artificial intelligence. He was trying to call it the modern Pinocchio. Of course, the Pinocchio analogy doesn't work because you know Pinocchio was trying to be a good person. And these people don't believe in good, so Haley Joe Osmond just kind of wanders around in a, you know, in a terrible world for two hours. So there's no moral transcendence or anything. But there is aliens becoming God. Anyway, it's it's it is such a stupid movie. But the thing is, at the end of AI artificial intelligence, like the creatures at the end that show up after David's buried in the ice for 2,000 years, those are supposed to be robots. Now nobody would tell you that because they look exactly like aliens. Like they're all like slender and their limbs are all like, you know, disproportionate, and they even glitter like they got stars in them, you know. So they're clearly meant to look like aliens, and they're clearly meant to confuse the audience into thinking they're aliens. And they've been like repeatedly saying that David is praying to the blue fairy, and the blue fairy isn't answering his prayer, you know, that kind of thing. The implication is David doesn't realize the blue fairy is fake, and it's like Steven Spielberg going, Ha! You see? Your god is a fairy tale. Get it? Like it's it's subtle, you know, it's just subtle. So that's clearly what he's doing, and then you know, the the aliens thaw David off and reboot him, and then uh he touches the blue fairy statue, and then the blue fairy shatters, right? And of course, the idea is that once the aliens arrive, we will no longer need God. I mean, that's literally what I think he's saying, because that entire movie is so ridiculously pretentious, and it's got all these little double meanings in it. I think I'm very justified in thinking that he was saying that intentionally. So, anyway, uh yeah, so Spielberg, I imagine Disclosure Day is gonna say something to the effect of, oh, look at that, the aliens made us, they're our God. You know, so they can reintroduce a pantheon, you know.
SPEAKER_15So it's like But you're just the Nephilim coming back.
SPEAKER_07But you're just the Nephilim coming back. That's why Steven Greer got so upset about uh Vance saying they're demons. Because JD Vance was like, yeah, they're probably demons, and then Greer gets on Alex Jones and goes, No, they're not. It's like, but you're talking to them through meditation. Like, do you want demons? That's how you get demons.
SPEAKER_15How dare you!
SPEAKER_07How dare you? That's offensive. They'll never talk to us now. It's like it's like, okay, Steve, I'm sure there's a gray on a switchboard late waiting for you to call in. You know, it's just, oh my gosh. Anyway, so that's what makes this worse is you've you've got these like how do I explain this simply. Um you have these guys that are probably aware, and I think this is I'm gonna say a theory. I don't know if it's true. And I'm not saying it is true, but I am postulating it. I'm working on a hypothesis here. Okay? So, everybody's always saying Alex Jones is always right, right? Alex Jones got his information from oh my gosh, do not Ted, Ted Gunderson. That was his name. Ted Gunderson. Ted Gunderson was a frequenter of this group called the Prophecy Club. And the Prophecy Club was hanging around with guys like they had guys like Kent Hovind, uh France something, Gunderson was in it. They had a bunch of people that were in this kind of like evangelical sect. Now, here's what I think these guys did, and just cutting through all the nuances as to why I think this, let me just cut to the chase. I think these guys, like Gunderson and the Prophecy Club guys, came across H. G. Wells' and open conspiracy and like the whole Fabian socialist plot, and they tied all of that into their prophecy predictions. So that's like where you get left behind, that's where you get all the seven-year tribulation stuff that we grew up with in the 90s. That was all based on these globalists' plans. I think what these guys are doing is something similar. I think they know that the CIA or somebody is going to eventually say the aliens made us and try to like get rid of religion through establishing some pagan pantheon or something.
SPEAKER_08Yeah.
SPEAKER_07Now I don't know if they're gonna go full Project Blue Book or not, but I think they are going to continue to push the Panspermia idea. I think they know that, and I think that they are doing the exact same thing. They're taking that ide that idea, that Project Blue Book idea, and then they're trying to apply it to their prophecies. I also think this might be how Brandon Biggs is getting some of his stuff right. I think he's tied into this kind of anticipating the government characters. And so he's listening to Jones, he's listening to the people that are following this, and then he's making his prophecies retroactively. Like after he hears what Jones says, based on analysis, he goes and prays and you know, says there's gonna be an attack. Because I've been sitting here thinking about it, and it makes so much sense. Like he he was talking about cities being burned and attacked in his like remember when we watched that speaking in tongues thing? You know, and uh he was getting real into it, and that was probably the moment I started to change my mind about him. But I didn't realize at the time that Alex Jones was predicting cities getting wiped out. And then, of course, when the LA fires happened and the Palisades get destroyed, that was Jones, you know, his prediction coming true because Jones was following the World Economic Forum, the fact that they were intentionally not cutting the brush, and he was tracking what the World Economic Forum guys were doing and BlackRock was doing, and he's like, and then he guessed, oh, they're gonna set crap on fire, right? I think Brandon Biggs was hearing stuff like that, which is probably also why he was on Alex Jones because he's probably been a fan.
SPEAKER_15I didn't know that was uh Yeah.
SPEAKER_07And so I forgot that so he was hearing that stuff, and then he was making these prophecies based on Jones's uh guesses about the news. And I think that's what these guys did. I think they I think what they did is I think they knew Trump was talking his butt off about because you know how Trump is. He just he just shoots his mouth off without thinking, you know. Like the guy sometimes he has a plan and it's 4D chess, and other times it's just what are you doing? Talk to anybody in the cattle industry, they're still furious of him about that Argentina cow thing.
SPEAKER_15Like I'm still furious about the gas. Like, get out of the Strait of Hormuz, bro. Open it up, you freaking here's the thing.
SPEAKER_07I think I've said it before, but I'm willing to pay for the gas if the women quit wearing the burkas. I'm all for paying higher gas. Because they're people. But I here's my thing.
SPEAKER_15I don't think we got out of their country, they'd probably be okay.
SPEAKER_07They haven't been okay for 40 years, and we haven't been in their country. Yes, we have. The CIA's been, but we haven't actually overthrown that government. And that brings me to the point I was trying to make. The Ayatollah, I believe, are connected to like NATO and the CIA and all these guys. That's why Obama flew pallets of cash to them on planes. Why do you fly pallets of cash? So the money will disappear. Where is the money supposed to disappear to? All the terrorist cells. They're funding ISIS, they're funding al-Qaeda, they're funding everything going on in the Middle East, and they're destabilizing everything.
SPEAKER_15But their ideas are from the CIA.
SPEAKER_07Yes, they're well, Iran is a proxy army.
SPEAKER_15Built by the CIA.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Yeah. So I was hoping Trump was rebelling against the CIA by actually taking out the Ayatollah. That doesn't that doesn't look like that's what's happening. So I'm disappointed. Is what I'm gonna add.
SPEAKER_15They don't want change, dude. They want the same shit over and over again. Like if if Trump would have stayed, kept his freaking giant nose out of this, um, the US dollar would be destabilized, and we would have to go back to trading and you know, all that kind of stuff. And it would suck for a while, but it would make us all strong as fuck, and it would be awesome.
SPEAKER_07I think the board needs to change. And I don't know. Well, we gotta stop, we gotta get rid of the proxy army, we've got to get rid of the Ayatollah, we've got to get rid of the whole constant war in the Middle East dynamic that I honestly think you're I think Yeah, it may or may not be, but you gotta understand, Cody, they want to crash the dollar. The Fabian Socialist goal is to crash the dollar, they want the whole world to operate like heroes. Oh yes, oh yes, that's what they want. They want the dollar gone. They want the dollar gone. Or they want to control the dollar.
SPEAKER_15Huh? The dollar is for debt. They the dollar is like it's huge for them. They want it so they can charge people interest.
SPEAKER_07But eventually the goal is to crash the dollar. That's why they have a what they're doing, yes. After they that's what, yeah, that's exactly right. What they're doing is they are taking the money as it's inflating and buying up all the assets.
SPEAKER_02Yes.
SPEAKER_07So whenever they finally crash the currency overall, nobody's going to own anything. They will own all of it, and then you will get a stipend because they've already bought they're going to buy everything while the dollar still has purchasing power. And then when the dollar no longer has any purchasing power or very little, they'll crash all of it.
SPEAKER_15But they like if if he if we let it crash naturally, they wouldn't have the money yet, or they wouldn't have the assets yet. Like let it crash right now.
SPEAKER_07Like their original goal was 2030. Their original goal was 2030. Uh, it might have got pushed back to 2032 at this point, but we're so late in the game, I don't know if crashing the dollar would be beneficial for us or them. It's an open question. I don't know. But my point is their goal is to destroy the country because that's what Fabian social like in order for their little technocracy, their committee of experts crap to work, they have to completely destroy the nation state or keep all the nation states really, really weak. Because the goal is, again, just like think the UN, think NATO, whole world runs like Europe. That's what they want. So, yeah, they have to destroy everything, they have to destroy America because America is the biggest dog. And how do you do that? You drain their resources through foreign wars, and then you flood the border. That's the strategy. And so Iran has been their hub for all that. They have been funding Al-Qaeda through Iran. Who was like, I think was it? I don't think I think uh bin Laden was a CIA guy.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, I forgot his name. Uh it was like Ben or something. Yeah.
SPEAKER_07So, yeah, and then of course you have Iran Contra and all that. So, you know, they've been using I think they've been using Iran as a hub. Now I think the CIA is not a monolith. I think there's factions. Because it's like I think one group is really mad because the Ayatollah turned on them, and then I think another group is really like trying to prop the Ayola up. So I mean it's not a monolith, but point is if you if you want to get a different outcome, you gotta change. You can't have the same power structure. And I was kind of hoping they'd put that prince in. The Iran, the Iranians have this prince, they want to be in charge of the son of the prince that was in charge before the Ayatollah took over. Like there's a huge chunk of people that are willing to support that guy. So it's not like Iraq, where you're gonna be just stuck nation building, because there's already an exit strategy. The Iranian people have already articulated what they want. But and so I was kind of hoping Trump would support that. And if he was willing to support that, I would be willing to pay $4 gas. But it looks like, well, we're just gonna keep trying to make deals with the Ayotola, even though we can't even find them at this point. I don't even know who he's negotiating with now. So it's like, why are you still negotiating with the Ayotola? Why don't you put another government in there because there's already one practically half set up? Yeah. That frustrates me. I don't know what's going on.
SPEAKER_15I think I think he's played a dead possum. He's not he wants to stay stagnant for now.
SPEAKER_07I don't know. I think he wants to secure the oil.
SPEAKER_15Like I think he's trying to starve the world out of Iranian oil so they can only use US oil. And that brings value back to the dollar.
SPEAKER_07Yes, I think that's correct. It's gonna suck, though. It's gonna take a long time for that transitioner. Like, yes, that's gonna be.
SPEAKER_15I care about I take care of my own first.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, but you also want to make sure that your children are able to buy stuff on their own and have a nicer house than you. So you are going to have to get some purchasing power back into the dollar anyway. And this will do that. It's not enough of a motivation to for me, but I do feel better thinking that Demi might be better off than I've been.
SPEAKER_15Why don't you just start buying silver?
SPEAKER_07Because I can't afford it, I'm that poor.
SPEAKER_15So it's only like $73 an ounce right now. You go buy an ounce.
SPEAKER_07Uh maybe.
SPEAKER_15Just start buying silver, man. I mean, like, you're talking about, oh, the dollar won't have any value.
SPEAKER_07Oh, no, I'm literally just saying the opposite. I was literally just saying the opposite. I said this oil thing would bring purchasing power back to the dollar. I was agreeing with you about it improving the dollar. That would be better for your kids, but it's gonna suck for us.
SPEAKER_15I just want whatever is supposed to happen to happen. People like Trump are stopping natural progression from happening. Like this whole thing with the straight or moves, he's biding his time so that the US dollar, which is fake, it's a debt note. Re it's like a magic spell, dude. And he's he's he's re-kicking off the magic spell and pretending like the dollar is worth something when it's not.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I do agree with you that he's trying to return the supremacy of the dollar. I think you're right about that. I I don't think it's about the mechanics, but like like we started, our value came from I think France, right?
SPEAKER_15So like Fort Knox is full of French gold, right? Or supposedly.
SPEAKER_07I don't even know if Fort Knox actually has any gold at this point.
SPEAKER_15But like France funded the fund the the beginnings of our country. Like with gold, I think. I think it was France.
SPEAKER_07I know all all I know about France's connection to Fort Knox is that they wanted their gold back in Vietnam and didn't get it.
SPEAKER_15Right. It's every seven years. So every 70 years, um, there's like a oh, I've forgotten a lot of this. Every 70 years, like you have to there's like a contract with the French and they want their gold back at the end of that 70 years.
SPEAKER_08Mm-hmm.
SPEAKER_15Dude, I've forgotten it all. I'm sorry. It's okay.
SPEAKER_07We're supposed to be talking about aliens. We completely derailed.
SPEAKER_15But we can't give the French their gold back. I think it's all gone. Yeah, it's all gone.
SPEAKER_07I think it's gone.
SPEAKER_15So it's like the this they like we're going to war with France if we don't keep the dollar's value up. Like it's gonna start some shit.
SPEAKER_07I don't how will we ever beat France in a war?
SPEAKER_04Like, wee wee! Pew pew.
SPEAKER_07I I'm not too worried.
SPEAKER_15I'm not either. But I just I think there's a lot of geopolitics involved with the value of the dollar, and if it if it upended, it would be fucking crazy. But it would be awesome because it would bring back the value of real assets. Well, and it would force us to use real assets and not debt. And debt is usury, which is evil.
SPEAKER_07So I mean I agree with you on that. I don't like our current system. I think we do need to go back to the gold standard or something like it. With our current system, you can't sustain it. I agree with you there for sure. Um I don't know. I certainly don't think Trump's going to be able to pull that off, and I don't know who could. But that's the whole problem with this. You've got to burn the old system down. I was hoping Trump is not letting that happen. I was, yeah, I was hoping Trump would by flipping the board with Iran. Because I I know Iran's the hub of all this Middle Eastern crap. And if he changes the board on that, apparently that's supposed to also weaken China. Of course, everybody makes a big deal about China, and I'm not convinced that China's like as big a deal as everybody says. Like I think it is. I'm thinking I'm I'm of the opinion that their one child policy decimated them. And they know they're less than a generation away from total collapse. Which is why they're freaking out. So I'm not super worried about China. Um, Trump seems to be super worried about China, and I get what he's doing, is he's kicking China out of the like uh Western Hemisphere, which is fine. I'm f I'm fine with that, but you know, at the end of the day, I don't think China is our greatest threat. I think it's Britain, NATO, and the CIA and our intelligence branches and our NGOs and the you know the enemy within. These guys that are Fabian socialists. Now that's my humble opinion.
SPEAKER_15You can't destroy America from the outside.
SPEAKER_07Right.
SPEAKER_15That's not possible.
SPEAKER_07Right. So anyway, back to aliens. Um my whole point with all that was uh Brandon Biggs, I think, was looking at the news retrospectively. The Prophecy Club was looking at the Fabian Socialist plan and kind of mixing it within times. Um Calyx9398 says, Have you seen the China Show? I like their takes. You know, I keep I think Razorfit Fist keeps recommending the China show, and I keep meaning to watch them, but I haven't done that yet. So I will be sure to look them up, Calyx. I mean, I should have done it a long time ago, though, but yes, I have heard of them.
SPEAKER_15So I actually subscribed to Razorfist on YouTube, I think yesterday.
SPEAKER_06Oh, did you? I think so.
SPEAKER_15I like that he's funny, man. Yeah. I love his Abraham Lincoln, though. He's great. Is Abraham Lincoln one?
SPEAKER_06I yeah, yeah, you yeah.
SPEAKER_07I obviously disagree with it, but I appreciate the humor and the effort. So Okay, so let's see here. Yeah, so we already talked about Spielberg. Let's see what he says here. I don't know any more than any of you do, Spielberg says, but I have a very strong suspicion that we are not alone here on earth right now. And I made a movie about that. However, other than evangelical rapture movies, the idea of the US government meeting in an Airbnb in the backwoods of Tennessee with a group of Pentecostal pastors to tell them to warn their parishioners not to be deceived by the imminent alien disclosure hasn't been a plot line that crossed many Hollywood writers' minds. I like the shot at the rapture. Good to know where you stand on that, author. That was somewhat wittily done, though. I will compliment you for the wit a little bit. Alright, that's pretty good. I'll give it a B. I'll give it an A. I liked it. Anyway. So, alright, the Airbnb meetings. There were a number, uh there were a large number of pastors and that that had been invited to go to a certain state to hear some men in the United States government some top men.
SPEAKER_05Top men.
SPEAKER_07I'm going to go on because this is just saying the same thing over and over again. So we got Perry Stone again. Some of the alien narrative. Uh what's coming? The specifics of the allegedly imminent disclosure can be hard to pin down. Wow, that's a great way to say we don't know. Well, we do know, being on the other side of Friday, not much.
SPEAKER_12So podcast of that picture.
SPEAKER_07We think Oh, the last days uh UFO. You've listened to that?
SPEAKER_12No, no, I looked it up and put it in the chat if you wanted to react to it.
SPEAKER_07Okay. We can listen to this guy. Why not? Why not?
SPEAKER_12It's the podcast of the four Pentecostal creatures talking.
SPEAKER_07Oh. Okay, well we'll give this a whirl for a minute. If I can get this to work, why did that pop up? Wrong link, I guess. Alright, boys, we're gonna we're gonna look at this really quick. What are these wonder these special individuals who Uncle Sam deemed worthy of this sacred knowledge? What did they have to say? Maybe they'll have more special shirts Cody can hang on hate on. Alright.
SPEAKER_13And it was there's thousands of people, right? People are kind of looking, remember that? And being sacred. The one and the only Mike Signorelli, everybody. The Mike literally giving them the status of being sacred.
SPEAKER_07I just want to point out we're already off to a great start. The Mike Singarelli. I don't know why you need to. Who's that?
SPEAKER_06Yeah, who's that?
SPEAKER_12He's from New York.
SPEAKER_06Oh, who guessed? It's a big deal. It's like, oh well, that's right.
SPEAKER_07Okay, well. Okay, on our next episode, I want you all to say it is the Gary Paul Varner.
SPEAKER_12This is the way that's a good idea.
SPEAKER_07This is the Cody Ford. This is the turtle chief. That one actually makes a little sense. So, Trevor is the turtle chief. I can't imagine anybody else being called Turtle Chief, so that might be fair.
SPEAKER_13So on record comparing them to angels, calling their crash sites holy ground. Like these are real phrases in all of the research I'm doing. And it's already begun to infiltrate the church, believe it or not. And so what I'm about to show you today is gonna change how you see the entire disclosure conversation.
SPEAKER_15No, it's not and you may be watching the Don't tell me how I'm gonna see my perspective, you homo.
SPEAKER_07We'll sit it on the other side of Friday. No, it didn't. It's very wrong.
SPEAKER_13It's before the disclosure. And I'm is he a homo sapium?
SPEAKER_07I I don't know, Trevor. Let's see what he has to say.
SPEAKER_13My hope is that it's going to actually inoculate you against all this deception, or you may actually be watching this after the fact, and we're about to prophetically prove that the Spirit of the Living God already revealed to his sons beforehand for your benefit, so that you and your family will be saved in the midst of this.
SPEAKER_07So you gotta have some hubris. It's like maybe you're watching this after the fact, and we're gonna prove to you the power of God because we're so right. You do realize other people were going to watch this after the fact, right? Not thinking it through.
SPEAKER_15And there's a number. Um, there's a number we could pray.
SPEAKER_07Oh, Rihili.
SPEAKER_15Let's call them.
SPEAKER_07Oh, it's like, oh, I'm so scared of the aliens. Please make me feel better. It's like, why are you why is the phone call in an accent? We're probably gonna get some like, you know, operator overseas.
SPEAKER_13Y'all, you're probably here because you saw the first part. And I just want to say thank you for your commitment to the truth. Um, but we're gonna go real deep and we're gonna go very specific. Um, we're each gonna bring research that we have. So if y'all don't mind, we could just get into it.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, he's gonna go real deep with the boys, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_07Um real deep, real deep. We're gonna have a with the boys in-depth discussion.
unknownMy God.
SPEAKER_12The best part is uh 42 minutes in.
SPEAKER_0742 minutes in. Let's jump there. All right, we're gonna jump to minute 42. The most replayed. Uh-oh. Oh my goodness. What are we gonna see here?
SPEAKER_11Uh Isaiah 45 thing all the way to verse 3. And here's what's gonna come next.
SPEAKER_07Calyx says, with the boys.
SPEAKER_11The hidden treasures of secret places, the hidden treasures of darkness are coming to your ministry, they're coming to this house, they're gonna begin to open the double doors. The gates will not be shut to this city. What what I love about this table right now is when I when when we're talking about this be shut to this city. What what I love about it? And here's what's gonna come next. The hidden treasures of secret places, the hidden treasures of darkness are coming to your ministry, they're coming to this house, hidden treasures of open the double doors.
SPEAKER_06The gates What does that even mean? That means he's a fucking demon. Sorry.
SPEAKER_04Yeah, it's like, but I don't want the treasures of darkness. But I don't want it.
SPEAKER_05There's just a gift.
SPEAKER_04There we go. It's like put on the ring. I don't want the ring.
SPEAKER_11But now's coming the message. That's it. Now's coming the fire. That's it.
SPEAKER_13Yes, it's it's all coming in waves, and that's what I mean. It's like there's a spiritual climate change, but it's always the tale of two cities. It's all what?
SPEAKER_04Spiritual climate change. Spiritual climate change. You have spiritual global warming, metaphorically, of course.
SPEAKER_15Spiritually. Spiritually, a fake thing. This guy.
SPEAKER_04Oh wow. What was the other thing he said? It was spiritual climate change, which was a hoax. Illuminati confirmed.
SPEAKER_06Uh, what was the other thing he said? Oh gosh.
SPEAKER_08And the giant flame.
SPEAKER_04Oh, it is gonna be a tale of two cities. How do those two thoughts possibly connect? In any way, shape, or form. There's gonna be climate change in two cities spiritually. I don't know what that means.
SPEAKER_15Oh my gosh.
SPEAKER_04Wow.
SPEAKER_15There's some people, dude. Manhattan.
SPEAKER_04Sorry, go on.
SPEAKER_15I just I want to like kick the back of their chair, the legs out from under me, you know? I don't want to like injure them or anything, but I I definitely want to make them.
SPEAKER_07Oh, yes, you do. You want to hurt somebody.
SPEAKER_15No, I don't I don't want to hurt anybody.
SPEAKER_07Okay, just make them question their life choices then.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, yeah. But like, oh, why do why do I deserve this? Why am I on the ground right now? You know?
SPEAKER_07We gotta put them on the ground by necessity so they can reflect on their important decisions.
SPEAKER_12Do I hear something really funny?
SPEAKER_05Yes, I do.
SPEAKER_12Mike apparently grew out his hair for just for this podcast.
SPEAKER_05Mike?
SPEAKER_12That guy that's got his hands up.
SPEAKER_07Oh!
SPEAKER_12If you go to his channel, he he's actually bald.
SPEAKER_07I can see his little picture here. Yes, he's bald.
SPEAKER_15He grew He grew his hair out for a podcast?
SPEAKER_12Yeah, just for this podcast.
SPEAKER_15What what do you mean? Like he planned this podcast for four months? Yeah. Where where does that come from? Like, is that a did he say that?
SPEAKER_12No, I was just being silly.
SPEAKER_05Oh, okay.
SPEAKER_07Alright. Gotcha. Wait, you just committed climate change in two cities, Trevor. Whatever that means. Spiritually, of course.
SPEAKER_13The enemy clicks into a mode, then the Lord clicks into a mode, right? And we're experiencing that battle. Just right now. It's the Islamification of New York City. While that's happening, yeah. We're setting up in Times Square and doing a historic event for Easter Sunday. It's it's both. It was dark in Egypt, light in Goshen.
SPEAKER_11This guy's what's happening, brother.
SPEAKER_05I can't even follow what he's saying.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_05No, he's not saying anything.
SPEAKER_15He's just he's just saying bullshit. It's lip service shit. This makes me want to smoke a joint, and I'm not going to, but oh my.
SPEAKER_05Don't succumb. Don't succumb.
SPEAKER_06I won't fight it. Fight it.
SPEAKER_15These guys, I look look how easy those backs, the backs of the chair legs would be to break out from under them. Just one good kick.
SPEAKER_05It's one good kick. I gotcha.
SPEAKER_06I just, I, I could just spews for views. Very good, Calyx. Spews for views. Yeah. I can just, yeah, I could just hear Joe screaming.
SPEAKER_07What does pessimistically optimistic mean? So cautiously optimistic. That was his rant. It's the same thing. It's like there's two cities. There's light and there's dark. Spiritually. There's treasures there. Spiritually. Metaphorically. Because of climate change.
SPEAKER_04Spiritual climate change.
SPEAKER_06Yes. You're literally.
SPEAKER_11You really are. You have this apostolic anointing.
SPEAKER_15He's using uh like adjectives and very descriptive words. He's focusing on descriptive words to paint pictures in your mind so you don't actually know what the fuck you're hearing.
SPEAKER_07Yeah. Yeah, I can see that for sure. All right. Let's see if we can actually get to 42 minutes because that's where where Trevor said the humor was.
SPEAKER_11To open the gates. It's that Isaiah 45 thing, all the way to verse 3. And here's what's going to come next the hidden treasures of secret places. The hidden treasures of darkness are coming to your ministry. They're coming to this house. They're going to begin to open the double doors. The gates will not be shut to this city. What I love about this table right now.
SPEAKER_07Okay, I'm looking up Isaiah 45. I don't need the verse. We're going to look it up. We're going to look it up, boys and girls.
SPEAKER_15I don't need 45. All the way to verse 3. The hidden treasures of darkness.
SPEAKER_07Yes, Isaiah 45. What is that going to be applicable to this situation in any way, shape, or form? I wonder. Let's see. Isaiah 45.
SPEAKER_12These guys are teaching out of the amplified version, by the way.
SPEAKER_07What is an amplified version? Very, very paraphrased.
SPEAKER_15So they don't know what the hell they're talking about.
SPEAKER_07It's like we're it's like trying to put yeah, the Isaiah 45, verse 1.
SPEAKER_15Thus saith the Lord to his anointed, to Cyrus, whose right hand I have holding, to subdue nations before him, and I will loose the loins of kings to open before him the two leaved gates, and the gates shall not be shut. I will go before thee and make thee crooked places straight. I will break in pieces the gates of brass and cut in sunder the bars of iron. And I will give thee the treasures of darkness and hidden riches of secret places that thou mayest know that I, the Lord, which call thee by name, am the God of Israel.
SPEAKER_07So, basically, this is a prophecy for Cyrus. Cyrus is going to break into a gate, and he is going to get the treasures of darkness and hidden riches in secret places that thou mayest know that I am the Lord. So he's going to get treasures probably within a city. And when this particular thing happens, if I remember correctly, I cannot remember if this is referring to if this prophecy is referring to either the fall of Israel. Because it's Isaiah 45, so I don't know where exactly we're at. If is he predicting the fall of Israel or if he's predicting the return to Israel? But it says Cyrus, so I think Cyrus is the guy that sends them back.
SPEAKER_15Is he talking about is it talking about the Cyrus from Trailer Park Boys?
SPEAKER_07No, he's talking about the Cyrus that doesn't even exist yet.
SPEAKER_15Always off.
SPEAKER_07Well, this is one of the more interesting prophecies in the Bible because, you know, Isaiah is saying this before Cyrus is ever king of anything. So it's pretty he's like God is literally calling Cyrus out specifically by name before anybody knows who he is. And then of course, if that if my memory is my memory's coming back a little bit, then that means he's basically talking about the Jews going back or Cyrus being a successful conqueror. Either way, that's not talking about the hit the prosperity of a podcast. No in any way, shape, or form.
SPEAKER_15That's called cherry picking.
SPEAKER_07Exactly. Exactly. Even if I'm wrong about the context, I hope I have demonstrated there is a context, and it has nothing to do with making you rich. So wow. That's really that's really funny. Okay.
SPEAKER_10Now is when I when when we're talking about deception, a lot of times what that's doing is it's creating fear in people, which creates isolation. Yeah. And what I hear from you guys is talking about this is wanting to bring deep thoughts, deep thoughts.
SPEAKER_07I was too busy drinking my soda and thinking about how much I like the soda. I wasn't listening, so I'm sure it was profound though.
SPEAKER_10Like Mike's like, we're going to we're going to Times Square.
SPEAKER_09This professional 32 TW SSD came Hey look, it's an ad. Capable of holding the entire collection of the New York Public Library. It's something you won't find at Best Buy or any electronics retailer, even if you were willing to drop a like Wow, that entity, the gray, said come out of your house.
SPEAKER_13Yeah. Wow. So it's a false remember, it's light versus false light. And I and I think the call because your wife is incredibly anointed because I mean we know this. She was speaking in tongues over my shoulder, and I was like, almost we were in a podcast, almost.
SPEAKER_07Dude, I could feel the fake laugh.
unknownYeah.
SPEAKER_07I didn't just hear. I felt the fakeness. It made my gut go.
SPEAKER_15I would like to go into this room and calmly flip their table.
SPEAKER_07That would be righteous anger.
SPEAKER_06Okay, we gotta stop. This is fun, but we gotta stop.
SPEAKER_07We have waited way too long.
SPEAKER_15We did.
SPEAKER_07Okay, moral of the stories, these guys were full of crap. Um, this guy, I think, was the guy that well, I don't want to say. Basically, he lied, he lied, he lied, he lied, and they all got egg on their face, and everyone lived happily ever after. Don't listen to these people. They're ins. They're not insane, they're liars. So leave them alone.
SPEAKER_15Well, liars believe they're lies most of the time, eventually, so they are insane.
SPEAKER_07Unless they're complete Machiavellians. I think these guys are complete Machiavellians. I think. Gosh, there was oh, oh, oh, oh, oh. One more thing. I'm sorry, we went so long, but one more thing. Uh this guy, I think it's him. How do I find this? Mike Winger. Bald guy with the longest beard. It's always the b uh I know, right? Dude. I've gotta find this guy. What was his Oh no, it's this dude. He's not in this podcast. But he's talking. Alright, this is one of the guys that was part of the group. He wasn't in the podcast, but uh this guy right here, he wasn't in the podcast we just watched, but this, I think. I don't know. These guys are both involved in the same scam, whether or not they were in that podcast or not. But I want you to pay attention to this dude. Just to show you how Machiavellian this is.
SPEAKER_01That is not possibly what Eric excuse me, not possibly what Larry said it was.
SPEAKER_07That uh, sorry, hang on. I please go watch Mike Winger's full video. He does a really good job breaking this down. I'm just wanting to make one point here, and I'm using his video to do it. If I can find it, here we go. Now I want you to look at this guy's studio and tell me what it reminds you of.
SPEAKER_01Well, this is Larry Raglan, just so you understand where he's coming from. I feel this could cause people into like lead them into like a type of religious psychosis. I think it can be very unhealthy for people, and it can kind of cause the panic that they're worried about fixing, they're gonna create. So I'll just play the clip for you here. This is how Larry Raglan uh couches things.
SPEAKER_03Tonight we need to address something very, very important. Whose studio does that remind you of? We talk a lot about this guy's studio.
SPEAKER_07The news? Not the news. Whose news station? Look at the logo, look at the coloring, look at the shape of his beard.
SPEAKER_15I I literally have no idea.
SPEAKER_05He's Alex Jones. Alex Jones.
SPEAKER_07It's Alex Jones. He's copying InfoWars' flippin' studio. Look at it from another angle here. If we can get it to do it. That's the same one. It's freaking InfoWars. I'm trying to. There's a better shot in here where he shows his logo. And the logo's even reminiscent of InfoWars.
SPEAKER_15On Star Wars Day, too.
SPEAKER_07Oh yeah?
SPEAKER_15May the fourth. May the fourth be with you. May the fourth. Everybody's got their mind on Star Wars already. Alright.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, I'm I'm gonna find his picture again really quick. I'm maintaining this dude is totally stealing if Alex Jones's shtick.
SPEAKER_06Yeah, because they did it on May the 4th.
SPEAKER_07Huh?
SPEAKER_15They did it on May the 4th. May the 4th be with you. Your brain's already on Star Wars.
SPEAKER_12Or is it uh Revenge of the Sixth?
SPEAKER_07Revenge of the Sixth. Ha ha ha ha. Let me see if I can find more pictures of this guy. What does he say? Larry Ragland? Yeah. Alright.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, I don't I haven't watched Alex Jones in a while.
SPEAKER_07He's totally stole the InfoWars studio design.
SPEAKER_15He's got like a big studio. I thought he had like TVs behind him.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, Larry Ragland. Yeah, that's his him. Holy crap. He's even doing the Alex Jones point, guys. Hang on. Oh wow, he is. Oh my goodness. Look at this dude.
SPEAKER_12So is a copycat.
SPEAKER_04Yeah. Is he a copycat or is he insane.
SPEAKER_07No, this is a marketing shtick. This is a marketing shtick. This is somebody. I am the Alex Jones of Prophecy. That's what that is. That is a gimmick if I have ever freaking seen one. Hang on here. Let's see this. Let's look at this split screen here. Probably gonna be sitting like Alex Jones in the whole time.
SPEAKER_16Copyright. Somebody like this like me talk about giants.
SPEAKER_02Conversation to dictate copyright.
SPEAKER_12Copy my rights.
SPEAKER_07Ah, I still can't get his logo. I saw a logo of his a minute ago and it looked just like Alex Jones's.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, so Area 51 on there. That's so stupid. Yeah, I know.
SPEAKER_07It's ridiculous. And then he's got he's got the microphone set up in like approximately the same spot. Yeah. It's Alex Jones.
SPEAKER_15It's even dry to look like him. Like he wears black shirts.
SPEAKER_07Like he's got his beard cut exactly the same. Oh my gosh. Calyx says, season of grifters. I know.
SPEAKER_04Like, how does nobody like recognize that?
SPEAKER_15There's no originality in the demonic realm. Wow. When everyone's possessed by demons, they can't.
SPEAKER_07I'm not calling Jones. Yeah, well, I'm not calling Jones demonic, but yeah, this is obviously a copycat, you know? Yeah. It's crazy. Okay, I'm done. I'm done. I just wanted to point that out. I just I just thought that was it's a good catch, man.
SPEAKER_15It is funny. So it's a good catch.
SPEAKER_06Thank you.
SPEAKER_15Yeah, there's there's another guy on so there's a guy after Owen Benjamin got canceled and all that stuff. There was a guy on Facebook that popped up named Ben Owen, and he's like this big alpha dude. He's like, it's it's he's just not saying the same things as Owen. It's like, dude, this is this is a put-up. This is that's it's just it's hilarious, man.
SPEAKER_07That's crazy. Wow. Oh goodness. Okay, so um we're done with this section because we went for like ever. So I guess we got one more to go.
SPEAKER_15Jeez, what time is it? It's midnight, bro.
SPEAKER_07You want to call it good? We can talk about virtuous men and being men without vice next time if you want, but that's our last subject. We got whether or not men can live without vice, which was the subject you wanted to cover. So you want to save it for next week. Save it for next week. Okay.
SPEAKER_15See if I can make it a week.
SPEAKER_07See if you can make it a week. All right, all right.
SPEAKER_15Are you more to say?
SPEAKER_04Next week you're coming here going, no, it's impossible. Good luck. Good luck, good sir.
SPEAKER_07Calix is like, it's 10 p.m. here. Where are you from, man? I think you've told us before California. California. That's right, that's right. lol. Oh man. And he says lol, yeah. All right, well, Calix, thanks so much for joining us, man. I think we are gonna we are gonna let we're gonna let it call tonight. So um guys, thank you so much for watching, and we will see you next time. We hope you enjoyed this episode of Faith Fiction and Folklore. If you did, we would love it if you would subscribe to us on YouTube or follow us on Rumble. We can also be found on X, Instagram, and Facebook. And we are available on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, and iHeartRadio. Thank you again very much for listening, and we'll see you next time.