Prove To Me That You're Alive Podcast
Prove To Me That You're Alive Podcast is a long-form conversation series dedicated to exploring life’s most profound and challenging questions. Created by NazareN and Romaniya Poet, the podcast invites thinkers, creators, scholars, and everyday people to dive into meaningful discussions about the human experience.
Hosted by NazareN, each episode explores a wide range of topics — from spirituality and humanity’s search for purpose, to culture, philosophy, and current geopolitical developments shaping our world today. Through thoughtful dialogue and diverse perspectives, the podcast seeks to better understand the forces that influence our lives and the deeper questions that define what it means to truly be alive.
The goal of Prove To Me That You're Alive is simple: to create a space for honest conversation, intellectual curiosity, and meaningful reflection in an increasingly complex world.
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Prove To Me That You're Alive Podcast
Abducted to the 9th Planet The Hidden Truth About Human Origins
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In this powerful episode of Prove To Me That You’re Alive, host NazareN sits down with Dr. Samuel Chong — researcher of lost ancient civilizations and translator of The Thiaoouba Prophecy into Chinese.
Dr. Chong shares firsthand insights from his connection with the author of this controversial and thought-provoking work — a man who claimed to have been abducted and taken to a highly advanced “9th planet,” a civilization far beyond Earth’s current level of development.
Together, they explore the deeper meaning behind The Thiaoouba Prophecy: The Golden Planet, including:
- The concept of planetary levels of civilization and where Earth stands today
- The origins of humanity and the possibility of higher civilizations guiding our evolution
- The spiritual laws that govern progress or destruction
- Why humanity may be heading toward catastrophe if consciousness does not evolve
This conversation dives into the intersection of spirituality, ancient knowledge, extraterrestrial encounters, and the future of human civilization.
If you’ve ever questioned where we come from — and where we are going — this episode challenges you to think deeper, awaken awareness, and reconnect with a higher purpose.
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We are recording. How are you doing, everybody? What's really good? This is the one, the only, the proof to me to your live lightcast, which is a podcast. I'm your host, Nazarene. And today I have for you, like never before heard, never before seen, um Story, an incredible uh human being. He is a doctor, he's a lawyer, he's a motivational keynote speaker on wellness and mindset and positive change. But most importantly, he's a specialist on ancient civilization. And um, he has written a just mind-blowing, I think, life and history altering book. Uh, it's called The Yoba Prophecy, the Golden Planet, The Abduction to the Ninth Planet. And why it's very personal and important to us, because all of you guys know that for many, many years I have been talking about that the biggest secret of humanity is actually our past and our, you know, uh lost civilizations, if you will. I call them a lot of them, I call them uh lost cultures because I make a difference between um culture and civilization, and especially following the Rahmanic Vedic tradition, we know that our ancestors, at least part of our ancestors, ancestors, came from somewhere else. And what's really interesting because uh as uh our guest today will talk about, he talks about the ninth planet. Well, Pushkin in his um folklore and Russian folklore, he talked about the ninth kingdom all the time. So I think that fits in um really beautifully, and this is why I was so excited to talk to this uh amazing human being. So without further ado, I want to introduce to everyone the one, uh, the only Dr. Samuel uh Chon. How are you doing, Dr. Samuel? Good. Uh thanks for having me here. Thank you so much for being here. I have obviously uh like a billion questions for you, but we agreed to uh to an hour, so I don't want to keep you here for so long. Thank you so much for doing this, really. This means the world to me. Um, as soon as I found out about your story, as soon as I started to read the book, my mind was blown. And I want to tell you the same that I that I told you in the email that I believed it from the very second as I was reading it, because again, my background tells us these stories of our, you know, our ancient past, that uh that science, that archaeology being politicized, they are hiding this from humanity. Um, so I don't want to babble on. Um uh, Dr. Chan, um, could you please tell us because you're here for the first time, what is your background story? Like, where are you from? What was your childhood like? And uh how did you come about to being interested in uh in these subjects in ancient civilizations? Thank you so much.
SPEAKER_01Great. I was born in China in 1978. I was uh very fascinated by the ancient uh civilizations in China and the rest of the world. In the 1980s, the Chinese government was fairly open in allowing information related to extraterrestrials and UFOs uh to be published in China. So there was a very popular magazine called the UFO Exploration magazine, and I was an avid reader of that magazine. Um, and I was thinking if the ETs could come and visit us, they must have advanced technology and knowledge, and we can just cut the corner and learn from them directly without going through all the uh uh developments that we uh we human beings or scientists have been developing on Earth at a very slow speed. So I was uh thinking that uh we can just uh uh get the advanced knowledge from the E.T.s. So that's actually the beginning of my search for books or information given by E.T. Contactees. Uh after I came to the US, I was uh searching for such information. I read so many books written by E.T. Contactees, but this book, The Over Prophecy, stood out because it really opened my eyes and explained all the paranormal and um uh unexplained phenomena on earth, such as the Great Pyramid, ancient civilizations, the Brahmanna Triangle, where we all came from, um, and reincarnation, the purpose of life, and the political issues as well as the real dangers on earth. Number one being money, number two, politicians, number three, journalists and drugs, and number four, religions. It actually uh corrected a lot of the issues um or some of the scriptures um as we are reading nowadays, because uh during the process of uh uh translation or uh making the religion like a state religion, there were some kind of distortions to the original ancient scriptures um as documented in the uh the Old Testament and the New Testament.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, uh thank you for that. Yeah, that's uh I I keep saying this on this channel, and I always talk about this, that I think that's the biggest secret that we're being kept from is our past. Uh, we always hear these uh you know scary stories about the Middle Ages or the Dark Ages. And for some reason, history always centers itself around either Middle East or um Eurocentric uh version of history, and and we kind of skip over the rest of the world. Um, so what I wanted to ask you is so, as far as the ancient history of China, and uh of course we're being taught in normal history um that China has been advanced to what we understand being advanced as far as you know um not eating with their hands like the barbaric Europeans did, you know, some 3,000, 4,000 years ago. So what is what is the history because you come from there? Um, what is the ancient history of that region of the world? What don't we know about it? And does it even matter?
SPEAKER_01Well, according to the Chinese uh folklore, we did not really come from uh gorillas or apes. I mean, it makes sense if you think about it, because we have different colors or different races. Uh, we are the yellow people, the Chinese are the yellow people, and there are the Caucasians, the white people, and there's the black people from Africa and the Aboriginals of Australia, and there's also the Polynesians and the Pacific Islands. Uh, if we were to uh evolve from apes or gorillas, there must be like a Caucasian gorilla, and there must be like a black gorilla, there must be a yellow gorilla, but we couldn't find any type of yellow gorilla or white gorilla in Africa or elsewhere. So that's that means that we did not evolve from apes. In fact, according to the author who had this kind of unique experience of uh getting information from the ETs, we all came from different planets originally. In fact, the first inhabitants of Earth uh were the uh yellows and the blacks who came from a planet called the Baccaratini about 1.35 million years ago. So we did not evolve from apes or gorillas at all. We all came from different planets originally. And in fact, I didn't explain another interesting phenomenon, which is uh the uniqueness of the Jewish people. Um, because uh when I was reading the Bible, I kept asking uh the pastors and the priests like why they are so focused on on the Hebrews, why they were the chosen people, why didn't they choose the the the yellow Chinese or or the uh the the white Caucasians in in Europe? Why why the uh Hebrews? Uh so I was never given the uh satisfactory answer, a logical or uh kind of uh answer that makes sense. Uh so so this book probably explains the the uniqueness of the Jewish people. Uh if you look at it, uh uh the Jewish people only account for about 0.2% of the world population, but uh 22% of Nobel Prize winners are Jewish people, and they excel in different industries or fields, like the business circle and the um the scientific uh communities. Like if you look at it, it's really, really unique and different. And this book explains why that's the case and why they have been uh persecuted uh uh throughout history. Um so so the book actually answers all the questions that people have in their mind. Uh is it's a mind-blowing book.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's very interesting because um uh the Vedic, we call it Flavo-Aryan um Vedic uh um tradition because we we I don't refer to the Vedas as the books, I refer it to the tradition that was passed down to me, the Rahmanic Vedic tradition. It also clearly explains exactly you know how different races came from different planets and different planetary systems that explains how um that's why we have the different color of skins because we were developing under different suns, if you will. Um, and as far as uh the the Jewish people go, the Vedas, uh well, the Vedic tradition explains to us that these are the only, and you can correct me if I'm wrong, uh according uh you know to your studies, that the Jewish people were, as a matter of fact, created um in uh well by the god Jehovah. And this was also it was a different sort of a creation than uh the natural human beings that came from you know different planets. Um, because in the Vedas it explains that in order for there to be any sort of creation, there needs to be a uh female and a male energy, there needs to be a goddess and a god. Well, we call them goddess and a god. It simply says that these are our ancestors, and then the Jewish people were created according to what the biblical texts say. Um, that God first created, well, uh the Kabbalah says that God first created Adam and Lilith. And then when Lilith kind of went rogue, um, God created Eve from the rib of um uh of Adam. And uh and so the creation is different from what the Vedas teaches us about the the people that came from different planets per se. Um, so what I wanted to ask you is um your incredible story. Uh well the the the story from from the book. Um, can you talk about can you talk about the this incidence? Can you talk about like what happened because it's such an incredible story? Um so from what I understand, you know, uh this well, someone comes from a different dimension. I'm sorry, I'm stuck because it's so unbelievable. It's such an incredible story, but I believed it from the very second. So take me through this story. What exactly happens and when where does uh this extraterrestrial take uh this person like to what dimension or what is the ninth planet? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Well, um the ninth planet is actually the ninth, the category nine planet. According to the ETs, there are a total of nine different categories of planets in the universe. We people on Earth are currently living on category one planet, which is the lowest category. Um we are learning the basics, just like uh elementary school students, and they live on category nine planet, the highest category in the universe, uh, one of the uh three category nine planets in the Milky Way galaxy. Uh so this they have been guiding us, and this is actually why uh they chose the Hebrews uh to really uh kind of uh guide us uh to live a more spiritual path, because uh the Hebrews actually, according to them, uh came from a different category of planet, uh category three planet. So so this is like uh universal law is that um the blacks and the yellows are supposed to live on category one planet, and so were the Caucasian Polynesians, but uh the Hebrews actually came here accidentally because of uh malfunction of their spacecraft. They landed uh in what's now today's uh southern Russia. Because of the climate and temperature, they migrated south. They encountered the locals, the normath in the Middle East. And the normaths wanted to uh rape their women, so they had to defend themselves. And so this is a story told by the by the E.T.s as documented in the book, uh Theobal Prophecy. But we are all created by the same creator, uh, which is a pure spirit, what we call God. A lot of the Catholics believe that uh God has no faith because no one has seen God. Uh indeed, God is a pure spirit, it actually inserted a tiny portion of itself to each of our astral bodies when it created the human beings. So we are all part of the creator, and the creator is part of us. So so, in in a sense, we are all um like different beings from one family. Um, so there's no need to envy others, and there's no need to fight against each other because we are all creations by the same creator.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that's very true. Um, it's something that I've been also advocating and pushing on uh this channel that in fact, um, you know, in the uh in our ancient history, uh it didn't matter that uh, you know, there were different different colors and different kinds of people because we were able to coexist on this planet because we realized that we came to this planet, you know, for uh for a reason. And also it explains a lot uh you know how this planet came to be, because in the Vedas it talks about that all the minerals and uh everything that you need uh to breed life uh was actually brought to this planet. Um it wasn't it didn't come on accident. Um, so you talk about uh the different uh the different stages of um planetary um development. So what I wanted to ask you is uh these stories about um uh Lemuria, these stories about Atlantis, um in the Vedas, in the slavo area and Vedas, we know about hyperbaria um that existed before Atlantis. But what do you say about those stories? And what can you talk about? Uh the the pyramids, uh the Egyptian pyramids, the Giza pyramids, which has everyone in awe. Um Egyptologists uh claim that for some reason, you know, somehow these uh Egyptian slaves came together and they were able to you know construct these incredible structures, these incredible megaliths. Um, so what can you tell us about some of those stories as far as Atlantis and ancient Egypt? Like how far does that go and why does it even matter for what you are teaching? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so we all came from different planets originally. So the blacks and the yellows came first, and then the uh Caucasians came after, and the the answers to the Polynesians came uh about uh 250,000 years ago from different planets uh in which they brought a lot of uh advanced technologies, such as uh anti-gravitational technology and ultrasonic vibratory systems to cut the huge stones in a very precise manner. And they first landed on the continent of Lemuria uh in the Pacific Ocean, um, and they actually uh established a very successful civilization in which uh money did not exist. Uh people just took the whatever they needed from the marketplace, and no one took advantage of each other because the people were highly spiritual. Um, so they they did not uh really have any wars or conflicts. Um they built a great pyramid on the continent of Lemuria that's three times the size of the pyramid in Egypt, and they kept their technologies secret because um the people uh at that time on different planets were not as advanced spiritually as they were. So they uh really did not, but they colonized uh a continent called uh Atlantis. So they passed some of their knowledge to the people uh on Atlantis, which existed in the Atlantic Ocean uh between North America, Europe, and North Africa. So there's a very learned person, a very wise person called Thos, in which the Egyptians believed that he was a god, but in fact he was a human being, uh very knowledgeable person. He built the Great Pyramid of Egypt in nine years' time using the technologies that I just mentioned, um, aligning the huge stones in a very precise manner, making the Great Pyramid as an energy center to capture cosmic and terrestrial energies, so that the pharaohs in Egypt uh used it correctly by sitting in the king's chamber and meditating and communicating uh with people on different planets. So, in a sense, the pyramid is an energy center that can uh capture a lot of the terrestrial and cosmic energies and can also send energies uh like a magnifier to different planets. And recently, I don't know if you're aware of that uh the Italian scientist found subterranean or underground structures uh beneath the pyramid. So that's uh kind of like uh indirect evidence proving that the pyramid can capture terrestrial energies. It's uh it's an energy center that uh uh was also used to make rain. Uh there's uh recent studies uh by University of Reading that if you project uh what they would call organ energy, uh you would actually be able to make uh clouds form in the sky to make rain. And in fact, archaeologists uh say that um Egypt uh in the Nile region is fairly fertile. There are a lot of rainfalls about 14,000 years ago or 12,000 years ago. Um so I think uh a lot of the newly discovered evidence match what the book says about uh our ancient past.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, there's in fact uh a lot of mystery all throughout the world. Um there are uh independent um archaeologists actually, because it see the whole thing is um uh Russia is always has been a very uh how should I say a very mystical place as far as world history goes, because even the Russian history has been written from the Eurocentric Western um viewpoint. And if we talk about uh the white race as being one race that came from somewhere else, the Vedic tradition teaches us that the white race split into the two Hablo groups, the R1B and R1A, around 45,000 years ago. And that's why we we had a very different development of what we know as Europe, like Western Europe and Eurasia and Asia, uh, Russia. And what uh why why I'm even bringing this up? Because these independent archaeologists are now finding pyramids uh way uh greater than what we know as the Giza pyramids um in Egypt in Siberia. Um, so so it's very interesting that that point of view and that history um, you know, it it says uh it kind of complements to what you're talking about, and then there are minor differences. But what I wanted to talk about is because in the Vedic um Rahmanic tradition, we know that there are uh different forms of technologies. So we say that there is yantra, mantra, and tantra technology. Yantra being the lowest form of technology, which we are developing in right now, and that uh technology is sort of like capitalism, is to do it by any means necessary, meaning that it consumes a lot, it destroys the planet a lot, um, you know, it it kind of drifts away from from who we are um spiritually. So, what I wanted to ask you, according to your knowledge, um where did we where did humanity kind of go astray? When did everything start changing? When did we end up in sort of the calendar that we are in now, the this um post you know, Christ calendar, uh where we've been seeing the world, you know, uh turmoil and war and arguments, and it seems like this is not stopping anytime soon. Like, when did that shift? When did that history point change and and why, uh, according to you? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Well, there were two great recess in the human civilization on earth in our past. So when the blacks and the yellows came here, they had a lot of uh technologies. And they were spiritual as well. However, a small asteroid hit Earth that split into three parts. And that wiped out the entire civilization on Earth, almost killing all the people on Earth. Almost. A smaller part landed was now today's Red Sea area. And the median part, the middle part, mid-sized part landed in was today's East Timor area. And the largest part landed in was today's Galabak Silence area west of Ecuador. So that's the first great reset. And we had to start over again to learn from the very beginning. And if you read the book, you're going to see that there are also other kind of events that occurred, a separate group from Australia, black people, went to Africa, and the priests decided to really suppress people's knowledge and also physical strength. So the priests, in order to gain personal wealth and accumulations of power, so that actually led the people in Africa into Australia. So that happened because of the selfishness of the priests' religious leaders. And then the second great reset occurred when the entire continent of Lemuria sunk into the ocean almost overnight. And also a few hundred years later, Atlantis also disappeared. That caused the kind of disconnect of ancient knowledge. So that's the downfall of civilization. For example, the Bible was modified after the Catholic Church Council meetings. So people need to realize that one of the most important sentences in the Bible that hasn't been removed is the kingdom of God is within you. So if when you have challenges, when you have difficulty in your life, you should look inside for answers because we can communicate to the Creator, to God directly, without going through the intermediary agencies, such as the priests or religious organizations or organized religions or politicians or the media. We should look inside for answers. So a lot of the knowledge such as this is no longer kind of promoted by the modern society. And also with the technology, uh technological advancement, people tend to focus more of their attention to the sensational news or videos. So I think that also is a factor to lead people into ignorance or downfall.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thank you so much for that. That's uh that's extremely important. Um I've always talked about this on this channel, and my tradition talks about um that the creator, um, we we call it Ramcha or Ra from the emanating light. Um, when the creator wanted to experience the material world, um, you know, it started to experience it through our consciousness. Um, and so uh when we are born and when we are reincarnated from lifetime to lifetime, and then our consciousness is split into different dimensions to experience everything possible. Uh, we sort of say that this is the creator sort of feeling himself, like, you know, we are the hands and the senses of the creator that is feeling himself through this um material, um, you know, material plane. Um, so you said something very incredible. The kingdom of God is within you. Um that's absolutely the you know the biggest truth. Um, what I wanted to ask you is so all these stories about um sort of the gatekeepers of information nowadays, or um, the people that are hidden, you know, having um information hidden from us. Um David Icke uh even talks about um the reptilian race. Um, what do you know about the control on our planet these days? Are there hidden organizations and deep states that are keeping information away from the rest of the population? Um, what can you what can you say about that? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Yes, there are secret societies that uh learned some of the esoteric knowledge um from different uh means by different means. Um and there are secret societies uh in which the members have such knowledge that they do uh damage to the world. But there are also some of the uh better uh secret societies that kind of want to do good to the to the rest of the world. Um and I would say that uh uh and also for China, there are a lot of uh Taoist masters that uh according to the Chinese tradition learn such knowledge from their masters, from their teachers, um uh through different generations. So you always hear the stories of Chinese Taoist masters or Kung Fu masters that can really uh kind of um kind of uh make someone uh go away or push someone away without touching a person, or maybe just to uh levitate and to treat or heal different diseases using the energy or qi according to the Chinese uh qigong masters. Um and I recently I just learned that there's a uh very kind of well-known uh qigong master in Los Angeles in the 1980s and 90s, in uh, but not so well known in the rest of the world. Um he actually was able to cure uh different diseases such as cancer uh just by using his uh energy. Um because um we not only have our physical body, we also have our astral bodies. So that means uh uh if you are going to have certain illness or diseases, um it's going to be manifested on your astral body before it manifests in your physical body, because the uh astral body influences your physical body. So the chief master is able to see the changes or issues um in your astral body, and then he's going to remedy the situation, uh, healing your astral body, and then your physical body will also be healed. Um, so this is uh what they do. Um, and also I know um some of the people who have uh uh the natural talent of uh seeing the colors of auras or the astral body, the human energy fields, using their naked eyes. So they tell me that um if they see like kind of um uh some issues like greyish color in the liver area, um, sooner or later, normally about a few minutes later, if the person goes into physical examination, uh he or she is going to have uh liver issues. And this is actually documented by uh our reader, or also a former NASA scientist called uh Barbara Brennan, uh, who wrote the book uh Hands of Light. Um so there are people who can do that. So there are a lot of ancient knowledge, or I would say esoteric knowledge that was passed on to certain people in the world, and some of the members of the secret societies misuse the information because such information can benefit mankind, but can also harm mankind if used incorrectly.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thank you so much for that. And I love what you're saying because it just more solidifies what I've been talking about for many, many years. Um, because according to our tradition, well, I think it's our universal tradition, there are seven, we call them spiritual bodies instead of astral bodies. And uh, you know, if a person's physical body starts to get sick, we say that one of these spiritual bodies perhaps was punctured and uh is no longer whole. And that's why, you know, we might be getting sick from this or from or from that. And um, I also talk a lot about for which I get very blocked, especially on YouTube, that um diseases like um cancer, it has been very has has been weaponized and has uh been politicized and has been and turned into an industry um where we are seeing just colossal numbers of people dying a lot of times from the treatment of cancer, uh let alone from from cancer, and that our so many secrets are hidden that we can uh absolutely heal ourselves um from within. Um, we had a uh Dr. Coldwell on this channel uh that you know works with people and and and their inner um energy and and qi energy and helping them cure even um cancer. So if you were to pinpoint um like because you do say secret societies, but do you know the structures uh of these secret societies? Because obviously the question is where did humanity go from the spiritual development to um being you falling for things like uh that's very you know human, things like greed, um uh things like you know, material gain, like all of these different things, like you know, uh if you were to pinpoint what is the structure of these world leaders, meaning like uh the presidents that we see, the politicians that we see on television, and um, you know, what kind of role do they play? Are there people overlooking these governments? And and if you were to pinpoint a time in history where we, you know, went away from the spiritual and more towards uh the selfish, uh physical, if you will. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Well, the presidents of uh the countries in the world are just puppets. Uh, they were led by a group of people behind the scenes. Um, I would recommend people to read two books on this. One is the Committee of 300 by Dr. John Coleman, and the other is uh 334000 Lies, uh, L A E S that I translated from German into English that talks about the uh it's actually an autobiography of uh uh the leader, the highest degree chair of a secret society that actually controls uh the leaders of the world uh in a sense, because they're able to incorporate uh ancient knowledge using a specific form of uh astrology and numerology to see the past and to also predict the future. Um, you may wonder like why some people may know this, uh, the Illuminati card game, uh, it actually came out years before certain political events occurred or happened. So why like the 9-11th or or uh the the like a lot of the things that happened later? So a lot of people wonder like why uh are they able are they able to predict the future uh such uh so accurately? And the the reason is that if you read the book 334 Lives, you're gonna know that uh they're able to do that because uh once they develop this kind of psychic ability and also incorporating the knowledge from the ancient past, they're able to uh know the locations of a planet at a given moment of time. And then according to the uh based on the aspects of different planets, they're able to kind of see the likelihood of certain things that are going to occur in the future. And then with the psychic abilities that they developed, um, they are able to really kind of accurately see what would happen in the future if certain events change. So one of the things uh mentioned in the book is that uh the master, I mean the uh the chair of that secret society, meditated in our island in the Caribbean, and then he was able to see the chain reactions of the future events if certain things change. He could actually manipulate certain events and then visually see what kind of what kind of chain reactions would occur uh uh when certain uh kind of event changes. So this is the ability that he accumulated or developed through meditation, through different rituals. Um, and also uh I would say that um uh but be war be forewarned about the book because it's very, very uh disturbing, especially when describing about the rituals that they performed. Um and uh it's a very, very interesting book, but not for everyone. But to answer your question, yes, there are secret societies in which their members manipulate the uh the what some people would call the deep state. Uh, and the deep state would uh manipulate uh the politicians would come and go every four or eight years. Uh so the politicians are the puppets, but the people who have the real powers always stay behind the scenes. They don't get involved into the day-to-day uh activities of the government because they have to have the free time to meditate and to develop the psychical skills. So this is why like there's a Dutch banker called Ronald Bernard. He described that he personally witnessed that um someone from the Illuminati uh was able to make one's heart beat stop. Um and um that's kind of like a psychic power that a chicomaster or members of certain secret societies have through uh the developing of a site of their psychic abilities. So this is this is like a real fact. A lot of qiglomasters in China can do the same thing. Um and I think uh when people have the knowledge, when people have the dedication to practice uh such psychic abilities, everyone can develop the same skills.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's uh incredible because we have these stories also where um, you know, because our material world is not that material, if we start to take it apart atomically and subatomically. And uh in the Slavic Aryan tradition, we talk about Golf, which are the wise men, and which you can call uh bobs or masters or yogis, that they were able to materialize things into our existence because they can manipulate matter to you know a way where we have been blocked from doing such a thing. Um, the question that bothers everyone and and that everyone kind of talks about it leads a lot of people astray. The question is is there one world government? Because especially now we've seen all of these different things happen on the geopolitical um arenas, you know, US, um Russia, Ukraine, United States, proxy wars, and Iran and all and and China could possibly you know get into the mix of everything. And then we look it back at events like COVID-19, where the whole world pretty much acted in one way. So is there a a you we kind of did answer this question, but just to put it to rest, is there one um people or one deep state shadow government that overlooks the entire world and commands the entire world? Or do some of these countries actually have, you know, um free will, if you will? Like are they um are they truly independent? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Well, I I personally believe that there is a group of people that uh manipulates the people who have the powers. Um, and uh I have uh personal uh stories uh according to my friends, what they told me kind of validities validities uh the my hypothesis of theory, because uh uh one of my friends in the Bay Area, he actually encountered a person in Hong Kong uh in in the early 1990s, or 2000s actually, um, that uh um kind of uh talking that uh they were responsible for certain political events that occurred in China, uh such as the selection or election of the leaders of China. And uh to to prove that he was right, he actually deposited 5 billion US dollars into my friend's bank account. My friend was shocked, but he still didn't believe uh a lot of the things uh told by him by that person. So there are people who like also Dr. John Coleman in his book uh The Community of 300 um alludes to the same thing. So so and they according to the to the book that I previously mentioned, uh 334 lies, um, they always uh remain behind the scenes. Um, you know, I try to find out um the name of the author of that book, 334 lies. Uh, and I was given the name by the copyright holder of a book, and I searched it online. I searched on Google, I searched on Baidu, the Chinese search engine, I searched on Yandex, the Russian search engine, and I searched on Bing, the the Microsoft search engine. Uh, no result came up. So so it's a so you can see uh like the efforts made by them not to appear in public. But if you read the book, you're going to see that certain events documented by the book um had to be true. Um and you can you can really relate to the events to some of the things that you know. Uh so it's it's something that's uh uh I I think uh they do exist. Uh and they're trying to make the world uh a one-world government, then they're they they can manipulate and control a lot of the politicians. But there are certain politicians that have the free will that don't want to be controlled by them. Uh they're normally the outsiders, and they normally don't last long. Um they don't go on the next term or they get assassinated. Uh so this is what happens to them.
SPEAKER_00Thank you so much for that. Um, one very huge uh question that always pops up, and especially it's coming up now in the United States, especially when a year ago, um, around the New Year's, we all of a sudden we had these um mystery drones flying around, especially in the area where I am. It was coined uh New Jersey drones. Um, so the question is um, and since this is your you know, one of your um expertise, are we still being visited by extraterrestrial, meaning, you know, civilizations from somewhere else? A lot of people talk about there's possibly hidden continents um that we don't know about, and maybe these continents develop differently. And so we could have you know people coming from from the these hidden continents to visit us. So the question is, are we being visited still um by by extraterrestrial civilizations? And if we are, um, you know, why are they here? Um, and and and maybe you could tell us about possibly some of these civilizations. Who could they possibly be? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Well, the answer is yes, we are still visited by them. Uh, but first, people should realize that there are different kinds of ETs that come and visit us. Uh, they're the ones who have been involved in our ancient civilizations and guiding us to the right path. There are also uh E.T.s who just come and visit us and as uh watchers, as people who just observe. Um, and there are different kinds of the Michel Demarquet, the author of the book, uh Theobal Prophecy, when he visited the planet, uh he saw at least 147 different ETs uh displayed uh in a golden doco, like a golden uh structure. And he was told that there are different kinds. Of ETs just in our multi-way galaxy that uh kind of uh at different development levels. And uh the drones that we see here on Earth are also possibly the secret technologies developed by our military because uh there are different kinds of uh uh drones and and vehicles and UFOs that people see. Uh there are ones that uh people uh when when people get in contact get radiation effect. That is probably developed by our uh military, uh military of the US government. Um so uh the the ET vehicles of the real uh ETs, uh they probably won't be able to, they they don't cause harmful effects to the human beings, because uh there's a universal universal law uh that when you are in contact with other civilizations of different planets, you are not uh to harm them. Because uh this is a universal law, a spiritual uh kind of uh canon that people need to abide with. Um so I would say that uh if uh uh uh there are some harmful, harmful or scary effects of the ETs, then uh just be careful that it may be kind of uh secret military projects that pretend to be the ETs or or make people believe that they're the ET vehicles.
SPEAKER_00Thank you so much for that. I'm so glad that you're clearing that up. Um, I have I have a few more questions for you. I cannot thank you enough that you took out the time to be here, and it's a Sunday, uh it's Easter. Uh so thank you so much again for uh for doing this. Um, what I wanted to ask you is just going back really quickly to the the Yoba prophecy, why is this um book and this account, this story, why is it so important to us, to humanity, and why was it so important to you in the in the path that you chose to to now teach us with? Um, if you could tell us, thank you.
SPEAKER_01It's so important to the people on earth because uh we are heading a catastrophe. We are destroying ourselves, especially with the development of technology. Um and we are neglecting our spiritual development. This is actually a book of warnings by the E.T.s. Similar to the warnings given to Noah in our ancient past. Remember, Noah was told to build an ark, and his great-grandfather um Enoch was taken by God or Jehovah. And um so there's a book of Enoch. So Michel Demarque, the author of this book, was told to write a book documenting what he uh witnessed and what he was uh told. This is actually a warning to the people on earth. You can imagine a few decades later uh what's going to happen if we don't change the way it's how we live. Um this is also personally important to me because I know the information that the author was not allowed to write in the book. First of all, I in the very beginning when I was reading the book, I thought, oh, this may be true, may not be true, but after reading the book, that the chapter was Christ, I was convinced that the book is for real. Um because um I actually verified the facts stated in the book. Uh the book, if you read it, there are so many details and also with specific verifiable facts. Um that's uh my conviction that the book is true. Um and so I wanted to know what else the author knew but couldn't write in the book because he said so in the postscript. I spent uh $2,000 uh uh going to Vietnam and I didn't know his exact address. I took the chance and I showed a picture of uh uh a bungalow and that a tourist uh took uh and who accidentally met the author, and I showed it to the local taxi driver, asking the driver to take me to that bungalow, uh and the taxi driver took me there. That's how I met the author. I took the chance and I learned over the few days that I stayed there that uh he wasn't going to tell me that, uh, unless I I can publish his book in China, which I did a few years, like a year, two years later. And then he invited me for the second time to meet him in person, in which he told me the one thing he was not allowed to write in the book. So personally, it's very that's my motivation of uh spreading the messages in the book so that people can wake up and form collective actions to rise up against the tyrannies in the world through nonviolent resistance, just like Gandhi did in India.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, thank you so much for that. Yeah, as soon as I started reading the book, and like I told you in the email, I'm about halfway done with it, um, I knew right away that I'm reading something uh factual because it kind of again proved everything uh that I know in my background. So as soon as I started reading it, as soon as uh, you know, this was this scene uh where uh the lady appears on the stairs in uh in the person's house, in the character's house, I knew right away that um reading something uh factual. Um so uh in the in the uh Slavic Vedic tradition and even in the Hindu tradition, um, it talks about uh there being a galactic day and a galactic night. And so uh roughly 7,000 years ago, we went into the galactic night or the galactic uh winter, which we call this forojic night, or uh the Hindus uh call uh Kali Yuga, and that's why we have been you know spiritually asleep, and now we're entering into the um aquarian uh age, and so we're coming out of that sleep. And so the the transition period, the apocalypse period, it talks about it takes about 50 years for that for that unveiling to happen. And so the common enemy of humanity, they're on the way out. Um, but as they are on their way out, they're about to slam the door, and that's why we're seeing so much atrocities. So, my question is to you, and because this is you know a big point of what you teach and what you are trying to you know give to humanity, um, with everything that's going on now, because it seems like the world is going completely crazy. Um, there's all these active wars around the world, we have artificial intelligence and possibly super artificial intelligence. So, my question is where is humanity headed and what will happen if we don't start to listen to people like you? Also, very important to me was uh the author, and you talk about intuition, and I talk about it greatly on this channel because I put intuition higher than any sort of intelligence. So, again, uh I don't want to make it confusing. Uh, where is humanity headed if we don't start to listen to people like you? And why is intuition so important? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01Well, if we don't uh change, we are going to destroy ourselves. Um and there's only a thin line between jealousy and hatred, and between hatred and uh and and war, uh a nuclear war. So the way to really make the change, the real solution lies in the cultivation of uh mind and love. So this is actually uh the reason why I've been so interested in letting people know that they need to wake up to really uh become aware of uh themselves uh and from their uh feelings, from their intuition, from their gut feelings, that they can uh learn how to make the right decisions. And actually, when we are born into this world, uh before we are born into this world, we actually preview our lifetime, uh, and then we accept this kind of uh decision we made, and important uh events in our lifetime uh are shown to us, and then the memory is erased. Um what uh the NAGA would call would call uh we have to pass through the river of oblivion, forgetting the memories of our past lives, and also forgetting uh the important events that we uh we were shown before we reincarnate into uh the womb of the mother. Uh so um but we can connect to our higher self through meditation, through prayers, or just follow intuition or follow your dreams when you have a good night of sleep. So that's actually the way to really make the right decisions, um, to really kind of discover this your human potential. Um and overall, I hope that people can have the knowledge to make the right decisions and to really um follow their intuition and to act collectively. Um because when we act collectively, when we really form um kind of a movement, there's uh going to be an uh effect of inertia. So the book The Prophecy gives example of how four people, only four people, um turned a country from a totalitarian or dictatorship government into a democratic society um without bloodshed. Uh so uh I think we can make the change, but it really depends on our own actions, collective actions through non-violent resistance.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I always said this uh on this channel kind of uh anecdotally that if you put um uh 10,000 people in the same area and all of them are depressed, it will most likely start uh raining and thundering uh above those people. Um, so I I think you know you are so spot on uh into saying that this you know collective consciousness, which we actually are, um only if we tap back into that source um we can really create tremendous change. Um, Dr. Chan, you are an incredible um speaker, you're an incredible motivator. Um, I think that you are studying everything that you have um put out and everything that you're trying to give to humanity. I can definitely say that you are one of the most important people of our time. And I and I thank you for your work. And if you please, if you please would come back, because once I finish the book, I have so many more questions to you. So please come back. My last question to you for today is um, and it's a tradition on this podcast because we do call this the prove to me that you're live podcast, because we're so sort of inviting people on a movement um to prove to yourself that you are, you know, a living, breathing, um spiritual energy, um, which whichever way that is, whichever creative ways or or other ways you you want to manifest this. But what I want to ask you is what is the meaning of life to Samuel Chong, to you personally, what is the meaning of life? Thank you.
SPEAKER_01It's to experience and to navigate the system so that more people can be awakened. Uh, I hope that I can influence as many people as possible to lead them into um the spiritual path, not the materialistic um path.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, like I said before, your work is uh incredible, and you are one of these uh key uh key scientists, key teachers, key um uh future leaders of this world. And that's why I'm gonna do everything possible to push everything that you are um talking about to uh show to as many people as possible to go and turn into you. So uh uh, Dr. Chon, make sure to send me all the links that you want me to plug into the description. That way people can go and find you and maybe some work that you want to recommend to people. So, again, on behalf of myself, on behalf of our whole movement, I want to take my hat off to you. Thank you so much for everything that you're doing. Thank you for finding that time. And uh, I'll leave you to say uh any last words you want to anyone that will be watching or listening. Thank you.
SPEAKER_01I just want to repeat um uh when you have challenges in life, look inside for answers. For the kingdom of God is within you. Uh, highly recommend a book, The About Prophecy. And if you have the courage, also read the other book that I translated, 334 Lives.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I believe that uh one when you were translating, anyone that has done translation because I done translation, you actually get you know that time to dive and indulge deep into the uh you know different uh the the study or the the scripture or the books. Uh, Dr. Chong, thank you so so much for doing this. Please let's do this again. I hope you have a pleasant Sunday today. Please continue your work. You are um you're absolutely incredible, and we need you, man, as we would say in New York, man. Thank you so much. Thank you, Nazaret. Thank you, thank you, Mr. Chong. Thank you.