Sacha Stone & NazareN: Forbidden Vedic Knowledge and the Awakening of Humanity

In this powerful episode, NazareN joins New Earth Movement founder Sacha Stone for a deep and thought-provoking conversation on forbidden Slavic Vedic knowledge, ancient civilization, consciousness, spirituality, and the hidden history of humanity.

Together, they explore the true meaning of the Vedas, the spiritual science once believed to guide ancient cultures, and why so much of this knowledge may have been erased, suppressed, or removed from mainstream history.

This discussion goes far beyond surface-level information. Topics include ancient wisdom traditions, human origins, consciousness expansion, language and vibration, the awakening of humanity, and the emergence of what many call the “New Earth.”

NazareN also breaks down the Rahmanic traditions, forgotten spiritual teachings, and the idea that humanity may be entering a time of remembrance and rediscovery.

Why was this knowledge hidden?
What role does consciousness play in shaping reality?
And could ancient civilizations have understood the human spirit in ways modern society has forgotten?

This is a conversation for truth seekers, deep thinkers, and anyone questioning the nature of reality, history, and human potential.

Featuring:
• Sacha Stone – Founder of the New Earth Movement & The Lazarus Initiative
• NazareN – Host of Prove To Me That You’re Alive

Topics include:
• Slavic Vedic knowledge
• Ancient civilizations and hidden history
• Consciousness and spirituality
• Human origins and awakening
• Language, vibration, and frequency
• Rahmanic traditions
• The New Earth movement
• Suppressed ancient wisdom

A one-of-a-kind conversation exploring the forgotten knowledge of humanity. 

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Sacha Stone is a shock-poet, frontline activist, filmmaker, and founder of the multi-jurisdictional NewEarth ecosystem, pioneering sovereign models of culture, economics, and advanced regenerative technologies. A veteran of frontline diplomacy and consciousness work, he bridges geopolitics, sacred history, and future-civilizational strategy to architect post-imperial pathways for humanity grounded in sovereignty, beauty, and ascension. He is also founder of the International Tribunal for Natural Justice (ITNJ) and the World Hereditary Council, advancing natural law, hereditary leadership, and the restoration of first-nations peoples worldwide.

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SPEAKER_01 0:02

Well, what a delight for me uh today on Lazarus to be bringing forward a new face to the Lazarus community, but not a new face to our social media, because this remarkable uh gentleman has uh interviewed me a number of times and I've thoroughly enjoyed the various conversations that I've had with him. Um the great remembering humanity's next era. Uh, and of course, I'm speaking about Nazarin, and he can describe or explain, decode his moniker for us in a moment when he comes on uh in from the green room. But uh, for centuries, the story of human antiquity has been carefully curated. That much we uh we know, certainly within the Lazarus uh community. But what is allowed to be ancient? Um, that essentially is the question. I think Jane uh Evershit was saying earlier today, talking about pre-ancient history. And I remember stopping momentarily and thinking, that that's clever, pre-ancient history. We're attuned to think of ancient history as being the catch-all, but there is a pre-ancient history. And then you talk about uh even pre-pre-deluvial ancient, ancient history, and then you've got paradigmatic shifts that have occurred where the entirety of reality has collapsed uh in and of itself. So it's been more than a paradigmatic shift, it's been a complete phase to zero of reality, dimensional reality, and then a re-initialization of it. So we start to get into a very, very abstruse area of focus where, of course, the intellect fails us ultimately because we move into the realm of the ineffable. But, you know, let's talk about um the story of human antiquity that's been carefully curated and what is allowed to be ancient, what is framed as myth, and what is quietly excluded altogether. So whilst India and Egypt and Sumer and even Atlantis are permitted space in esoteric discourse, um a far older Vedic worldview rooted in the Slavo Russia and uh Rachmanic tradition has been systematically ignored, dismissed, or deliberately obscured. Well, I wonder why that would be. Ah, that would be the Khazarian motherfuckers coming out and completely annihilating the Tatarian vestiges. Well, that's my take on it. We'll find out what our expert says on the matter in a moment. Uh, but uh NAS brings forward a body of knowledge really spoken of in the West, not as uh ideology, uh, nationalism or neopagan revival, but as culture in its original sense. So a living transmission uh embedded in language, biology, memory, and soul architecture. Born in the Soviet Union, raised across uh Eastern and Western worlds, fluent in multiple Slavic languages, clever bastard, and initiated into the Rachmanic lineage, he occupies a position almost no one else does, uh, standing at the intersection of Vedic, Judeo-Christian, Islamic, uh, Buddhist, and indigenous uh shamanic traditions, whilst carrying a living remembrance of what predates civilization itself. So this is a conversation about remembering what was never meant to be forgotten, stepping into a new cycle of awakening. So we are talking about a paradigmatic shift in that sense. And Nazrin is a cultural scholar, artist, polyglot, and rachmanic initiate, born in the Soviet Union and raised across Ukraine, Poland, Russia, and the United States. In any event, uh, let's bring the man on himself. Nasrin, you're so very, very welcome, my friend. I'm happy to see you.

SPEAKER_00 3:58

How are you, Slavic Sastone? Oh my goodness. Um, there was a lot that you said. Uh, first, but to start this off, I just want to say um thank you for even considering of having me on because of course I told you this a million times. I'll say it a million more that I'm a huge fan, and I think of what you are doing is is so important. Um, and and as far as you know, waking up uh the indigenous of the world, and and it's been a huge mission. So I just want to you know tell you thank you so much. You you did it, you did a lot explaining my uh my autobiography. Um and I just want to say uh a quick shout out to my beautiful wife. She's a goddess, she's the one that connected me to Sasha Stone. Uh, shout out to Romania poet. She's an amazing poet and amazing writer. I had to say this. Um, and yeah, so uh it's it's very interesting because whenever you mention antiquity or what is ancient, um it's you know, everything gets kind of thrown into the same pile. Uh, you know, all these ethnographs and all these historians and all these uh, you know, geologists and whatever else kind of ologies, they they throw everything into one hat and they kind of you know throw it around and then they have you pick out uh uh whatever you know is a people or whatever is a culture or whatever is a nationality. Uh, you know, these are these are very different things. And whenever you know we talk about history, you you mentioned something that it looks like reality um kind of you know started all over again and and and it happened in the recent couple of centuries, and then you even start to ask yourself, well, what are these centuries? What year are we truly living in? Um, you know, because if if we hear about uh the end of Tartaria, we we think about 1812. Um and then we think to ourselves, well, hold on, is it was it 1812 or or was it a 5,000 something or or a 6,000 something? So I think it's uh, you know, I think it's very interesting. But uh where I come in is is that um whenever, you know, it seems like everyone is uh around the world is able to talk about antiquity and ancient and history and this. And whenever you get to um the Slavic people, or more importantly, the carriers of the torch of the Slavic people, which are uh the Russian people, um, I say Slavorusos, then everyone is like, eh, you know, well, that history goes back to about a thousand years ago, um, whenever you know Kiev and Rus uh got Christianized. And before that, well, we don't really know where these people come from. Um, I'm not sure. Are you guys still here?

SPEAKER_01 6:46

Because I'm completely here, and I mean control. Don't worry about it.

SPEAKER_00 6:52

Okay, okay, cool, cool, cool, cool.

SPEAKER_01 6:53

I just I'll always bring you in when you finish speaking, I'll naturally come in and speak.

SPEAKER_00 6:57

Cool, cool. I thought I thought I was just uh hopefully not talking proud to myself. But uh, yeah, so so um and you know, whenever we start talking about the Slavic people, it's like, well, you know, we don't really know. Uh there were these various different tribes. This is what official history tells us that there were these, you know, various different tribes, um the Polyanic, uh, the Drivianic, the other kind of uh tribes, and then they sort of came together around the ninth century and and and they couldn't rule themselves. So what they do is they invited the the Scandinavian um rulers uh, you know, uh to come and take over the rule, which it which is preposterous in its own, uh, you know, to even think about, because if you look back the way uh Slavic people are, just genetically the way that we are, uh, we don't like to be ruled, period. This is why there's always been such a problem with that region of the world. And then, you know, if you say, oh, well, they invited someone from somewhere else to rule them, that you know, that doesn't make any sense at all. But I think, you know, if if I'm going to talk about what is the Rahmanic tradition and what is the Rahmanic uh Vedic tradition, you know, I could say things like um the Rahmanic uh tradition are kept within the people that have lived for a couple hundred years and they have kept the tradition for you know 10,000 years. And I don't think that would be fair. And also if I would say, well, I met these old men in uh you know uh uh what is modern day southern Ukraine, and they sort of introduced me to this idea of Rahmanic Vedic tradition, and they were just regular guys, I think that that would also not be fair to say. So what I'm trying to say is I don't want to oversensationalize uh what is a Vedic culture, and I don't want to and I don't want to under you know appreciate what it is because I think that will take away from the message itself.

SPEAKER_01 9:03

And and let me let me interject. I I just need to try and get some structure into this conversation because it's already gone off in a multiplicity of directions, and I don't want to confuse the audience too much. So let's stick to uh I'm gonna I've got some scripted um um questions here to try and uh create a structured format so we can enter into your cosmology. But but why this knowledge was hidden essentially, that that's the seminal piece here. So when Vedic is paired with Slavo-Russo uh culture, Western scholarships uh often uh respond um with silence or dismissal, not because of missing evidence, but because the tradition doesn't fit the approved uh historical timelines. So, what does uh acknowledging the Rachmanic worldview fundamentally disrupt uh about how human history has been framed?

SPEAKER_00 9:57

Yeah, well, uh I'm glad I'm glad that you asked that is because yeah, because whenever we hear uh vedic, we think of uh Hinduism, um which again it's crazy within itself because the word uh it survived until this day of a modern Russian language, Vedas or Vyada just simply means the knowing. And I think why um you know the the knowledge has been so and historic knowledge and everything that we know about ourselves have been so politicized, obviously, is because it's easier to control us that way. And I don't want to get into you know Freemasonry or Illuminati or this and that, because I think you know we we will just stray into somewhere else. But the important thing is that um there are clans and ruling families and so on and so forth that have decided what is you know acceptable for human beings, so we don't totally you know uh go against the grain as far as um you know the the ruling class and what is not acceptable. And again, I go back to why I'm such a big fan of Sasha Stone is because Sasha Stone is bringing back the indigenous uh peoples of the world. I usually say the natural people and the unnatural people. Um so the natural people and which uh you know the Slavic Slavorusos are um are the indigenous people. And yet, you know, everyone around the world nowadays is allowed to talk about you know their indigenous people or their indigenous cultures, and no one ever mentions that there could be an indigenous Slavorusos. Um but to answer your question, why was it hidden? It's because that's embedded into our genealogy, into our genetics. I think, you know, whenever we talk, whenever we ask ourselves why are the Jewish people um such a successful community, a lot of times we hear because they have a sense of a community, but a sense of a community is an effect, it's not a cause. And I think the cause is because the Jewish people can trace back their lineage 7,000 years. Whenever I ask someone, a Ukrainian, a Russian, an American, how far down your family tree do you know? People usually say, my great-grandfather or or my grandfather, and and then it stops right there. And and just imagine if you would know how far your lineage goes.

SPEAKER_01 12:36

And I think about that for a second. Those those multi-generational lineages. Um, so do these uh Hasidic Jewish lines, for instance, do they have remembrance of ancient Totary encoded within their familial stories? Do they keep that hidden? Uh, presumably that's very much the case.

SPEAKER_00 12:54

Yeah, well, that that's what it looks like because again, I think that's where the strength is. Um, we say in Russian or or in Ukrainian, we say that uh people cannot become great unless they know their great story. And uh why the Russian language, especially the Russian ancient language, is so wonderful because it's a language of forms. I can't even explain it in English, but basically what that means is it it was um it wasn't a spoken language, so it was a living vibration, meaning whenever I tell you the word, the word comes to life, it comes to you as in a form. I can give you an example. Um, whenever we say rich in English, uh, you know, you would have to explain to someone what that means. You could be rich materially, you could be rich in your family, wealthy in your health, or wealthy, you know, in in as much gold coins as you have. Now, in Russian, uh, the word bohaty means thou that knows God, meaning that as soon as you hear the word, you don't need an extra explanation for it. And and I think that's why it's been you know so crucial and so well um hidden. There is a revivalry going on now, especially with the young people um in Russia, you know, about bringing the culture back. And again, uh, you know, we have to sort of know the difference between what is a neo-pagan movement or what is just a people's that are trying to remember who they really are. And I think you know, those genetic codes um start sparking inside of us, those those sleeping uh areas of our brains start start awakening. I think to answer your question, that's why it's so dangerous to the the ruling elite.

SPEAKER_01 14:47

Very good. So look, culture versus uh civilization, and you draw a sharp line between civilization as a system of control and culture as a living uh preservative of uh of human knowledge. Uh, how does the Slavo-Russio concept of uh kilt ura redefine progress? And how did Christianity, distinct from the teachings of Christ, become a tool of infiltration rather than integration with the Pravo-Slavian world? And of course, give us the etymology of that ridiculous word, kilt ura.

SPEAKER_00 15:25

Yeah, so I I like the way you uh you roll your R's. Uh that's very important. But again, it's going back to um the majesty, the magical side of the ancient and yet, you know, the today's Russian language, because when you hear uh the word culture in English, all of a sudden you think of costumes, um, all of a sudden you think of songs or dance. And once again, in the Russian language, the word kultura is cultural ra. It is it's self-explanatory, and what that means is a a people that go to and from God. So um we know in uh in the Egyptian book of the dead that the word Ra means the sun god, while in the Slavic culture, in the Slavic Russo culture, the word Ra is the initial light, the original light. We even have a symbol that I have on my hand, um, it is the the kolovrat is so ra is the original light rather than you know a uh a sun god per se. And so when you have cultura, it means you have k and u. So that's to go in and to come from, so everything goes in and from God. Um, and I didn't say that civilization uh is only meant to control, from what I have been seeing, from everything that I have gathered throughout my whole life over 35 years of uh of studying is that civilization is the ultimate killer of humanity. And I think that's where um ancient uh peoples have failed. If you talk about hyperbaria to Atlantis, to Lumeria, to to maybe even Tartaria, I think that they were going on a civilizational path. And only culture, because even in the English word culture goes back to cultivation or something that's close to the earth. And so in a Slavic Russo culture, we understand that you cannot go against the planet Earth in order to you know create a civilization and think you will have abundance, you will have. But what it looks like is that every time we've been on that path and it's failed, why Christianity, and and I say that you know very lightly because the Slavorus, especially the Rahmanic tradition, we accept the teachings of Christ. Um, that is why uh, whenever Christianity came to the Rus, you know, motherland, or we say Kiev and Rus in history, um because we in the West we confuse it with Greek Orthodoxy, but actually we have something completely different, which is Pravo Slavia, which is the right way to glorify the creator. Um, and when you look at you know, past history and the problematic region of this world, these these slavorus, is there was always a problem with ruling those people. So they had to figure out a way to infiltrate. And one of the best ways to infiltrate was through religion. Um so yeah, so not not to stray far off. I just wanted to say that it's not, I'm not saying that civilization is evil or something like that, but from everything that I have gathered uh throughout my life, it looks like civilization is ultimately the end of humans uh progress, and only culture, which is to and from the creator, close to Mother Earth, is how we will be able to revive and you know progress on.

SPEAKER_01 19:12

Okay, very good. So in language, memory, and uh the human nervous system, you've described ancient Russian, not modern Russian, as a frequency-based language capable of reactivating dormant neurological and spiritual structures. And how does this relate to the car and bar functions of the soul? And what has humanity lost by forgetting language as a living technology rather than a symbolic one?

SPEAKER_00 19:40

Yeah, I think I think that's a very deep question, and it reminds me of a Sasha Stone story. You shared this story um on the podcast that we did, and and again, thank you so much for always showing up. But you shared a story where you were inside uh the Great Pyramids. And of course, you know, in about an hour or two hours' time, you couldn't go deep enough to what you experienced. Um, but if you think about, because you know, now language is watered down to the movement of the tongue, your voice box, and and sort of you know, different sounds uh coming out. Um, but going back to your experience, Sasha Stone experience in the pyramids, I think why you had such a you know crazy night that you explained is because the language, the language which came from culture, the the vibration. See, whenever I say language, it doesn't do justice for what I'm trying to explain. Um, those living frequencies are still inside the great pyramids. The words that they spoke, the words that they thought um is are still living inside the pyramids. And this is why it's so crucial going back to the ancient Russian or the Slavorus, or even a lot of the modern Russian that survived, is because I'll give you another example um of saying something in Russian. So whenever we say people in English, right, uh again, we need to we need a further um investigation, a further explanation of what it actually that means. But when you say narod in Russian, you know that that is na and rod, which is our roots. You know exactly what that is, and what that does is it shifts the way you know your brain uh functions. There's there's a lot of trash that gets thrown out. Because again, I think uh when the English language was created, it one of the purposes of creating the English language was to throw people off. Because again, when you hear the word light, you need a lot of explanation for what the word light. Means it has different meanings, different spellings, different, not in Russian.

SPEAKER_01 22:04

In Russian, again, when you say narod, you know exactly what I tell you, I gotta tell you, that is a crushing, uh, resounding statement um that English was created or construed um as a decoy, as a deconstruct mechanism of MNN. And I gotta tell you, that sits absolutely with me. Wow. And the fact that it's kind of evolved through a distillation of uh orchestration of destructivity through all cultures and races in history, in ancient history, being pot-boiled down into latter-day international English as the chosen language. That makes absolute sense uh to my mind. That incidentally should be the premise of a whole show that we do on just English language and how it evolved to being this. That is the first I've heard of it, but of course I know it to be true, uh, what you've said. So I thank you for that. The living Vedic systems versus abstract knowledge. So from Azbuka and Kara Ma to the Kalindar, the nine spiritual bodies, and the original understanding of Tantra, Mantra, and Yantra, what distinguishes uh these systems as living cultural technologies rather than the um rather than the abstracted commercialized frameworks that most uh people encounter today?

SPEAKER_00 23:40

Yeah, um I'm gonna give I'm gonna give you a lot of shout-outs, uh, throughout this conversation, because once again I go back to a memory of something that I seen you say whenever uh we had the new year. And and you know, it's sort of like we've been given this January 1st, and we sort of, you know, almost universally accepted that this is the new year's. And I remember you writing this uh post. I know you told me before that you know, you write and say so many things, a lot of times maybe you don't even remember that you wrote it, and that's how you know it comes from that intuition, comes from internal, right? But you said something interesting. You said January 1st is not the new year, the new year is you know when Earth goes through um its cycles, you know. Uh whenever you have the uh a word just jumped out of my my mind, but whenever you have December 25th, um, or whenever you have you know June 22nd, those are the natural equinoxes and solstice, yeah. Exactly. I'm thinking I'm thinking in different languages being all uh thrown around. Um, but but exactly, um and it's very important. And why I say again the Kalindar. So Kalindar, if you were just to translate it into English, it would mean the calendar. But if you would go back to you know ancient Russian, um it breaks breaks down into a gift from the goddess Kali. And again, I really want everyone to understand whenever I say God, whenever I say goddess, I'm not talking about that there's a you know ruling class up in heaven, and then the Christian god is going against these goddess, goddesses. To the indigenous people, whenever we say gods or goddesses, we mean our ancestors, those that have come before. So going back to Kalindar, uh uh a gift was given from the goddess of Kali, from one of our ancestors, to what the natural cycle of our planet, which we are very much a part of. It's not like you know, you can take humanity out of the earth. And it it deeply um explains and it deeply shows what that system of what a calendar should really be. And I think it is so crucial. And again, I appreciate you, Sasha Stone, touching on this because I think that's why we've been having also so many different problems is because we are way off the cycles, the natural celestial cycles of what Gaia should be um in. Uh so I hope that answers that part of the question.

SPEAKER_01 26:25

That's beautiful, that's fine. And uh curiously enough, the um conversation with Jane uh Evershed that we're doing on this uh same symposium, it corresponds and correlates almost perfectly with the conversation that we're having here, and how the the the uh the uh imminent template of perfection um at the at the age of Tara um was uh compromised and then collapsed. And we're looking at the mathematics, the calculus, and the geometry of that collapse, and how the um resurrection of the uh true template of uh of uh I guess the entire field of expression is connected to the resurrection of imminence within the angelic indigo human, remembering who they are. It's all about remembrance essentially. But let's talk about uh Tataria Hyperborea and the um uh the global cultural field. So you describe uh Tataria not as an empire, but as a vast uh cultural field, the land of the aces. What was Tataria truly, I guess, is the question I'm wanting to ask you. And why was it neutralized in the historical record? How do Slavo-Russio imprints still appear in indigenous cultures across the Americas, Africa, and Australia? I don't know how you're gonna answer three questions at the same time, but do your best.

SPEAKER_00 27:54

It's okay, it's okay. Um, well, uh what I remember because you know, as a kid, uh, and again, you know, I was, I don't want to say I already reincarnated into seeking the knowing again. I don't want to glorify like or or over you know sensationalize uh my journey. Um, but I always remember you know being interested in geography, and I thought I had you know a pretty good uh understanding of what geography, where countries are, this and that. And then I remember about 2010, I think it was 2011, Grand Tartary or Tartaria comes about, and uh it's different now when you Google it. But back then, when you would Google it, uh it would tell you that there was an empire um that existed, you know, from from this year to that year. Um, and it was in the region of you know uh Russia, and I'm thinking to myself, like, well, hold on a second, we never learned about it in school. Um, you know, how could someone miss an empire, you know, this great, and from what we are being told, technologically advanced. And what's interesting about Grand Tartari or uh Tartaria is that it was found in the uh Encyclopædia Britannica. So so it came from an actual you know source uh that's acceptable in the West. And so um the interesting thing is that when I seen that, I realized right away that this was another way to take away that antiquity, take away that those indigenous roots from the Slavorups or from the Russian uh people. Because we don't want to accept, we don't want to admit that you know Russia and that region of the world, uh, you know, we we say sometimes um historically we say the Russian steppe, that that region of the world could have been a great empire, but not in the way we understand it in the West, but a great empire in the spiritual technological way of an empire. And I found it, you know, to be to be very interesting of how you know on and on as more people come into the knowledge, we are constantly being led astray and constantly being pulled uh to different sides. And again, I I come to all these questions with a very cool head because I don't want to oversensationalize things, and that's why I think my background is very important um to understand that I looked at, you know, I'll look at every single thing from all the perspectives. I don't want to be one of those people who are like, uh-huh, that suits me and that suits my people, so I'll go with it. And what I'm trying to say is there has been great work done by uh by a genealogical scholar, Alexei. Um uh his name just completely uh jumped out of my head, but he's a he's a great scholar in the United States, and he has done a genealogical um, you know, a whole map of who the Slavorus are. And so he has showed and he has proven, and also the Denisova man, the founding that was founded and about uh five years ago in the region of northern Siberia, shows that the Russian people, Slavorus, they came from the region of Siberia, and that's why there are these great findings today, archaeologists, independent archaeologists that are not being accepted in the West because of because of the dogma are finding that there are pyramids and there are megaliths and there are all these you know amazing things. So to kind of round up the answer is what it looks like is is that the Slavoruso people came down from hyperbaria is is in the Vedic text, came down from the north to the Siberia region, and then they made their way to what we now know as the Russian steppe or um and or you know modern-day uh Ukraine or Russia. And just to uh quickly say about Tartaria, see the story about Tartaria exists in the Vedic knowledge. The story about Tar and Tara, the prince and the princess, um, and and the you know, the way they uh ruled that, well, not rule, but the way they overlooked uh that region of the world. So that story exists. I don't want to take away from the actual word tartaria, but I think it was purposely put back into our scope, into our view to once again take away the importance of and the indigenous you know, roots of who the Russian people are. And especially with everything going on now, we can kind of understand of why that's being done over and over again, and why on this grand chessboard of what we call our world, you know, Russia and that region of the world is is very, very crucial. It it you know always comes up, be it the World War I or World War II or what we're living through now.

SPEAKER_01 33:21

So I hope I I'll cut to the chase on that. It's it's to do with the fact that uh foundationally Russia uh represents the soul of humanity. That's as as far as it goes, but Russia is that um that energetic um uh vector of the planetary field of consciousness, no question about that. And that is why the savage assault against it uh by the uh Kazarian uh mafia in that sense, uh and the Sabbatean Khazarian agenda has systemically sought to disrupt and defile and desecrate uh the Russo element for that very reason. The reason why uh Ukraine is situated right now at the crosshairs of the fuckery going on geopolitically and uh uh culturally and socioeconomically all around the planet. Uh ground zero is Ukraine. Hacking a backdoor into Russia in that sense is integral uh to the success uh of the Sabbatean satanic Saturnian agenda. Um but uh take take that piece, if you will, and uh embellish it.

SPEAKER_00 34:32

Yeah, I'm so glad that you say that is because uh my beautiful wife and I, we talk about this all the time that for some reason in humanity, we don't even know why we say these things, but we say like Mama Africa, right? And then we say Mother Russia. Um, we don't know why we say it, but it's it's it's been you know sort of embedded in us. So I'm so glad that you say that. And whenever we speak about um Ukraine, you know, uh throughout recent history, we, the people that truly know what's going on or somewhat know what's going on, you know, we think of Ukraine as this catapult to bring down Russia. But you know, that region of Ukraine, which was also always called the Malo Russo, and a Malo Russo translated into English would be small Russians, but that's not the exact translation. The exact translation is that malo, meaning that this is the initial land of where we come from. So that region of Ukraine has always been a very important piece to the whole structure of the three holy Russo people, which are the Belorusso, the Malo Russo, and the Velikoruso, the the great Russians. Um, and it's it's it's absolutely you know imperative to bring down this you know part of the world in order, you know, we we say we say Hazarian, you know, and and I spent a lot of time looking into what exactly is that is because we see, you know, and again, it's so hard because whenever we start uh speaking about Jewish or Jew or the Kazarians, we kind of again, once again, we mash it all uh together. And whenever I say uh Jewish people, or whenever I say Jew, or whenever I say Khazarian, I don't want to lump everyone into that uh equation. I want everyone to understand that there are regular people, regular Jewish people, then there are the ruling class. And so whenever we speak about Chazaria, you know, in the Slavorus history, it's very well uh told throughout the centuries and throughout generations, is we know that there was you know a great empire of Chazaria. It's so interesting the way it's written, it's because uh you know the the warriors of Chazariah were from uh what were from Turk uh background, but then the ruling class of Chazaria were from what we would call the Jewish people. But what's really important genetically, if you look at what happened to Khazarians and what happened to that part of the world, is they actually came through modern-day Ukraine. That region of the world, and at around 5th to 6th century, again, 5th to 6th century of modern history, is when they started to, you know, sort of infiltrate and conquer that land. But what they did is they started mixing in with uh with the indigenous population, and this is why we see you know such a large uh population of blue-eyed, you know, brown hair or red-haired um Jewish people that are supposedly going back to to Israel to live. But um, you know, that's the Khazarian lineage. And what I'm really trying to say is I think very important, and why I'm so behind the new Earth uh initiative is you know, we have to sort of stop, you know, putting these labels on one another. He's Ukrainian, he's Russian, he's Jewish, he's American, he's whatever, and sort of give back to each indigenous people the beauty of who they really are, so we can figure out how we can come back together and move as one unit. Because if you look at the human organism, you know, the heart is very important, right? And the liver is very important, but you're not going to say the liver is better than the heart. And for some reason, whenever we speak about our planet, whenever we speak about uh, you know, people in totality, you know, we say, well, he's good and he's bad, and he's came from here and he came from there. And I think what I'm what I'm what I have been really trying to do, and I think the new earth has been, you know, successfully doing is we're giving back the beauty to each indigenous people to say that look, you know, just because you're Slavic and just because you're Hopi Indian doesn't mean you're good or bad, but it means that it's beautiful that you are who you are and you play a major part. I think it's the most anti-human thing to say, well, we're all one humanity and we should just kumbaya, you know, around the sun. And it's like, of course, we're one humanity, we're one unit. But again, just as the heart and the liver have their own vortexes and their own importances, and so are these, you know, indigenous cultures, and and it's so beautiful that you said the Russian people have always been the soul, again, you know, Mother Russia or you know, Mama Africa, as we say, and so you know, all these different things, but uh again, I hope I didn't lead it straight so much.

SPEAKER_01 39:53

Let's let's look at the turning of the age. I mean, prophecies from Nostradamus to Baba Vanga uh speak of the end of a long night of uh forgetting, and in the Slavo Russo uh Vedic uh world view, um, what defines the transition from Svaragitch night into what you describe as the great remembering and why are the three Rus people central to this turning point?

SPEAKER_00 40:26

Yeah, so again, I I don't want to over sensitalize what the Vedic, because again, whenever we think about Vedic or we think about Christianity, all of a sudden we think about religions and and these different religions and why this one is good and why this one is bad. Again, I want to go back to the fact that Vedas simply means the know or the knowing. And there are those that know and those that don't know. So in the Vedic tradition, which has and the Vedic culture, which actually has survived through the skaze. Skaze in modern day Russian, they would say ska, which would translate into fairy tales. But if you take the original word skaze, it means the telling. So the telling from the knowing. And so throughout our culture and throughout the traditions that were passed and the knowledge, the knowing that was passed, we know that um around 7,000 years ago, 7,000 um Earth years ago, we went into a galactic um sleep. And the way sort of you know, you can you can try to explain that is we know that Earth um you know uh revolves around the sun, and then we know that there's a center of the galaxy where you know other solar systems revolve around, and then we know that there's a center of the universe supposedly where all the galaxies and so on and so forth, and again, in the Vedic uh knowing there are multiple thousands of these universes and galaxies and so on and so forth, and so we know in our tradition that 7,000 years ago we went into what's called in in the Hindu Vedas called Kali Yuga, in the Slavic Vedas is called Swarozic Swarozaj Night, and we went into the state of sleep. We say this 7,000 years ago, and then around this time, a what I call the unnatural people of the world, because again, I always say there are the natural indigenous peoples of the world, and there are those that were um that are unnatural and came from a different point of creation, but we call these these beings or these creatures or these people, if you will, the great teachers. So whenever we speak in the Vedic uh tradition and culture, we don't ever say we are being punished or life is a punishment or this is a sacrifice, everything is done for our own good, no matter how great of a tragedy you live through, and I'm so sorry, there are such big tragedies. I've survived a lot of things myself, but we always say that that is the teaching. And if you look back at the prophecies, and especially with the most recent Baba Vanha, for those that don't know, Baba Vanha was a prophet from Bulgaria. A lot of people don't want to give her the credit or whatever, but I think the very interesting thing is that the last prophecy that she made was is that um Russia will gain back its own identity, and I think that she was talking about the Vedas, and she said that the great um white people of Russia will unify again uh the world, um in in uh you know, in the knowing against you know religion or anything like that. And yes, we we see these prophecies, you know. Going back to Nastodamas, I just want to say that why this is interesting and why this is so crucial and important is because whenever you know this conflict between Ukraine and Russia, which is actually a civil war, it's one people, one brother and sisters fighting one another, um, started is in 2020 you used to go on Google and look up Baba Bana's last prophecy, and you would see this prophecy of a great Russian and Russian awakening. Now, when you go to Google the same prophecy, it doesn't come up anymore. And I think that's why it's so interesting. Because again, if it wasn't important, why is it being hidden? But to finalize what I what I've been trying to say is that just like Sasha Stone said, and from everything that I have gathered, is because you know, Russia, again, think about it, it's the largest landmass um in the world, spanning over, you know, it's it's a whole continent within itself. Um, so many mysteries there, so much uh history, so much antiquity that's being hidden. And I think that it's crucial, crucial for us as Slavorusus to remember who we are, so we can, you know, unify back with our indigenous brothers and sisters and you know, the Celtic people of Ireland or the Hopi Indians or the Aborigines in Australia and all around the world. And again, this is why I tip off my hat to everything that the New Earth Movement and Sasha Stone does, because that's initially, you know, we're part of the same army.

SPEAKER_01 45:38

Yeah, it's it's it's the resurrection of the of the uh rainbow warrior um tribe, so to speak, that you're describing there, and which is to say the um the Genesis uh tribe, and and and that includes um Western um folk who have returned to innocence within themselves uh and are now seeing the world through the eyes of a child, uh, and not through psychointellectual cultural hubris. Those are also the shamanic peoples of the world. So the Aboriginal First Nation peoples uh and the the genesis slash regenesis uh rainbow warrior tribe are the the new human by definition, is the one that sees the world through the eyes of a child now and is beginning to dream wisely. Um let's look at the present unveiling. I mean, you've referred to opposite forces in the cycle as um uh tough love uh teachers, and in this current unveiling, this um true apocalypse. What are they trying to prevent humanity from remembering? A, don't start me on who are they, but uh in in that kind of polarized context of modern think, what are they trying to prevent humanity from remembering, firstly, and why is time no longer on their side? I think that's a pretty pointed question.

SPEAKER_00 47:08

Yeah, it's a beautiful question. I just want to finish up to what you were saying at the end, and I think this is uh this is very important because you know, uh in Russia and even today, um, a lot of they they taught again we say they. Um we can break down what they are, uh, like Sasha Stone said, you know, it would be a whole conversation within itself. But um, you know, all these different peoples of the world have been taught that there is an enemy somewhere else. So, for example, in Russia, they say the Anglo-Saxons have done everything. In Ukraine, Russians are the bad ones. In America, black people say the white man is the evil man. And again, throughout all my all my studies and my journeys, uh, I am realizing is that you know, every single indigenous and natural human being of the world is very important. Like I said before, the Celtic, Irish people, you know, the Scottish people that have been subjucated, uh, the Hopi Indians, you know, the Aboriginal uh Australians. And again, whenever we speak and we say Russia or we say America, we think of Donald Trump or we think of Putin, but we don't think about the population. Um, so I think I think that's very important in order for us to to kind of unify and give this pushback, this natural pushback, um, it is we have to remember that. That again, just like part of your you know, physiology, uh just the same way Gaia, the same way our Mother Earth is, you know, where uh one people will be the heart, the other one will be the liver, and and so on and so forth. And not one of them is better than the other, they're all crucial. Um, but to speak about the uh the the unveiling, uh it's so beautiful because again, the Vedic uh prophecies, they're they're very uh kind of exact on you know how it will come and what will be uh going on. And it's interesting that the Mayan calendar ended in 2012, and so the Vedic uh teachings say that uh once the Svarozic night, uh the Kali Yuga will end, and then the Swarozic day comes, you know, a part of um our our soul, a part of, you know, and again in in the Slavic culture, it's it's um the soul and the different different part of the souls and your eye and consciousness are are very different things. Um, but you know, that that spiritual side of us will start to wake up. And what it says is that the process will start around 2012. And again, it's so hard to pinpoint exactly what that is in the modern calendar that we have, but they say that around 2012, and it will be this unveiling, because when we think about the unveiling, the apocalypse, we think of the veil just being taken off. But actually, the veil will be lifted off slowly, is what the teachings say. And it will be around the period of you know 50 years, and so throughout this time, we are living through this time, and I'm seeing this because again, um, you know, I was five years old when I started when I was being a weirdo and started asking all these different questions. Um, and and I've actually seen with my own eyes this transition, you know, from 2010 and on and everything. But I just want to please, I want to tell everyone out there, look, and this is something Sasha and I talked about on our last podcast, you cannot be learning from Instagram reels. People, this is very important. Instagram reels are great, they're awesome, they're amazing. But what I want you to do is whenever you see that reel, go into the profile of that person. Try to see where they're pulling this knowledge from. Try to see if there's anyone that's backing them, you know. Um, I think that's that's very crucial because what is going to happen and why in the Vedic tradition, why we call the enemy, supposed enemy, our teachers is because once again, the creator, right? This you know, universal, boundless um consciousness, if you will, everything was created out of love. So all the struggles, all the pain that we have survived, all of that has been for our own good. Because think about it, someone that has only seen the sun will never appreciate the rain. And so when we collectively, spiritually chose to come into this material world, into this playground, we set certain rules for ourselves. Um, in in the Vedic uh, you know, tradition, it's uh kone, it's called kone. So zakon means law, means human law, but kone means the universal laws. And you know, uh we talk about sovereignty and all of these different things, and uh as long as you follow the universal laws, you know, you will you will be fine within yourself. But why we say the great teachers is because again, in the Slavorus Vedic tradition, we don't speak about life as a sacrifice, as a punishment, as a suffering, but as a journey into your own development. You know, how will you know that you are a good soul if you're not pushed to the limit? Um, and and so I know that I'll probably go astray uh uh different ways, but to to finish this off, um the unveiling is happening now. Um, that's why I really want for all of you, whenever you watch me or you watch a Sasha Stone, um tap into what are you feeling when you're hearing these great teachers. I'm not saying I'm a great teacher, I'm saying Sasha Stone. When you hear these great teachers speak, when you hear them transmit this vibration, what are you feeling? Because right now it's crucial. And why is because quote unquote, the enemy or our great teachers, they are on their way out, and we see that right now. But in the Vedic tradition, we say that when they leave, they will slam the door behind them, and so with everything that's going on around the world, um, right now, we are seeing that that door is actually being slammed.

SPEAKER_01 53:51

Indeed, indeed. And and it's very good that you you bring this um conversation back to that point because that speaks so much to the status quo and where we're at. Um, not that anyone can quite define where we're at, um, given the um sort of endemic corruption and corruptibility of the status quo. So governments are a fucking satanic technology that are out of control and everyone knows it and can see it, um, unless you've been vaccinated and um and have completely bifurcated and are lost to reason, to God's law. And there are some people still staggering around believing that the status quo is a healthy thing and a good thing, uh, and good luck to them. But uh the fact that the the there's the systemic collapse of the status quo, the fact that the um foundational ritualistic uh harvest of humanity is written into and encoded into monotheistic religiosity, and anyone, again, with a pulse can see uh what um the great uh dogmatic um monotheistic religions have amounted to, that they've amounted to systemic harvest of humanity and sacrifice of innocence. Um the fact that we've managed to evolve and permit the evolution, no less, of our planetary culture into a fiat monetary system predicated on um survivalism, on fight and flight reflexivity, on scarcity economics, on blood and war economics. Um, the fact that we've allowed ourselves as living sons and daughters of God to be um securitized, uh collateralized and monetized uh into um fiat um economics, all of that speaks to the um the abject horror of the apocalypse as it presents itself to us in the now. So I love the fact that you brought the conversation uh back to this, to the to the imminent uh present and the fact that it's on essentially on each of us now to awaken within this great um sleep and uh and not just waken within the dream, but to actualize fully. It's one thing to observe, it's another thing to uh uh witness. Um, but when one sits in perfected witness, the the so-called I am, that becomes actually the most dynamic um action uh in the universe. That the state of perfect still point in the witness is the highest state of action, dynamic action, because that is where the true dreaming breaks through the um the dreaming dreaming. And the true dreaming is how we actualize our capacity as sons and daughters of God to manifest uh reality, which we're on the precipice of doing right now. It's insanely um complex and difficult for people to uh navigate through the turbulence uh right now of the psycho um civilization, psycho um cultural breakdown, meltdown. But it's it's such a powerful space. Um governments do not have the threat any any longer that they they don't hold the threat that they did before because of their own fuckery. Like I said, the fact that um the British former prime minister is now being um um accused of having been in a you know fucking orgy threesome with Ghlaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein of all people, a former sitting prime minister of Great Britannia, um, that's coming out. Um, Lords, you know, very powerful um figures in British um political hierarchy, um, photographs emerging of them standing in their undies uh with their testicles almost hanging out um in hotel rooms with young women. Um all of this fantastic reduction of the archetypes of power and of um moral probity. Well, I don't know that anyone's ever believed in that, but the point I'm making is that the archetypal um icons of power are collapsing, and whether that's in rock and roll or in hip-hop or in the global banking um fraternity or academia or media, I mean, I all eyes on Opera Winfrey roundabout now, you know. But the the the systemic collapse of these archetypes that represent the old Atlantean power uh uh syndrome is a beautiful thing to behold. So, my closing uh question uh to you, Naz, is if humanity remembered uh that Vedic knowledge is genetic, okay, and not ideological, because that's essentially what we're speaking to here. Um, and that you know, genetic piece speaks to what Lazarus has been proclaiming for many years in our symposia, which is that the uh the DNA is a fractal antenna and it speaks to cosmogenesis. But if humanity remembered that Vedic knowledge is genetic and not ideological, what would fundamentally change about how we relate uh to each other and to earth and of course to the so-called future?

SPEAKER_00 59:29

Yeah, I think um another thing, you know, uh when I I'm gonna say something that you also tapped into, and uh, you know, kind of kind of to finish this off. Um, and I think I actually I know uh this is why all of us, you know, I see different indigenous peoples of the world accept Sasha Stone so much, is because whenever you're speaking, you're tapping into you know these incarnal, you know, truths, if you will. And um just to finish this off, uh I will say this that you know uh we hear a lot of times, you know, a new human or become a new version of yourself, or you know, do this or do that, and you you will come out or be reborn or or something else. And uh the Vedic uh culture, the Vedic knowing uh tells us that you know we are perfect the way we are. You can only de-evolve instead of thinking of some sort of a evolution, you can only de-evolve or you know go backwards. And um it's interesting that you you're speaking about you know the Epstein files coming out and everything that's going on with the conflicts around the world. And I just want to tell everyone and remind everyone that what you're being showed, um, you know, and in great numbers, and in uh, you know, all the time you're being stuck, they're stuffing you with this sort of nonsensical information that you should know that there's something else that's actually going on behind all of this, but they want to divert your attention. And why is attention so very, very crucial? And this goes back to something Sasha Stone tapped into on our last podcast when he said that this is in the now, in the knowing. And that's what the Veda culture is, right? So Vedas tells us that all the secrets to the universe, all the secrets to all the astral planes and anything you can imagine is already within us. Um, it's you know, it's intertwined into our um genetic code, but we chose to come to this material physical experience in order to be present in the moment. And I think that that has always been the biggest weapon against all of us. It's not the nuclear bomb, it's not all these wars, it's not all of that. The biggest weapon has always been diverting our attention from this moment. That's how you get weaker. And we we can see this that whenever the radio came out, there was a big Spanish flu, um, whenever the television came out, and you know, was something else was going on than when G5G hit, we remember the great plague of 2020. I'm not even gonna remember the name. And it seems like that, and and and looking at it globally, it seems like it's happening in great numbers in the West. Why? Because in the West, we are so used to being tuned into something other than ourselves, and so you know, I would uh in the great Sasha Stone and what he said, I would invite everyone to go back into ourselves and to be present in that moment. Yes, you know, pondering uh the nine planets and all these different astral planes and supposed endless universes, it's amazing. But again, it's within us already. The reason why we are here is to witness a Sasha Stone in that moment, is to witness your loved ones when whenever they open their eyes in the morning, it's to witness that flower bloom and to take place. And as soon as you're back in that moment and you're witnessing this this majesty, that's when you are being reminded of, and that's when the genetic memory of the Vedas, the knowing everything, you know, comes back into full play. And when it comes back, you know, we are unconquerable, man. Um, does it get yeah, go ahead.

SPEAKER_01 1:03:39

Very good. So you you know, so interesting what you were saying a moment ago about the uh um the induction of you know, radar comes in and corresponds with some kind of outbreak, Spanish flu. And you know, then we've got you know the the the the introduction of um actually it was polio. Um the emergence of the emergence of television corresponded with the um the spiking and the the the uh pandemics connected to polio. But it is a curious thing, isn't it? That as technology has apparently stepped up, it's created some cataclysmic event at the genetic level of of humanity. Very, very symbolic that.

SPEAKER_00 1:04:20

Yeah, and I think and and and when pondering, I'm I'm crazy like that. I'll take one subject or one thing and I'll ponder it and I'll research it for years and years and years, and that's what I'm coming to, you know. And it was so beautiful again that you said that in this in the last podcast that it's in the now, it's in the moment, and that's where we you know get our strength. Because with all you know, these professional sports and these stories of Epstein and world wars and everything, we are constantly being bombarded and constantly distracted from you know the distraction and programming, be clear.

SPEAKER_01 1:04:58

Distraction is software installation, it's programming. So the distraction is designed uh to catalyze a dystopia through cognitive dissonance. And the moment the dystopian um element or the cognitive dissonance is activated at that level of the gestalt, the software is installed, uh, it closes up again, and then that becomes the new thing. That's how ancient Totaria, in that sense, was erased from the cultural memory. It's through trauma. Um, so trauma events catalyzed as the software installation uh vectors. It's it's pretty fucking insidious, but there you have it. Uh listen, Naz, this has been a beautiful conversation, and I really would like to take this forward. Um, and I think Christie's probably nodding from the green room as well. I'd I'd be very grateful if we could look at um a start point of the next conversation being what you brought into this conversation, which was the knowing that the English language. Language is in that sense the signature of retardation. It is actually manifesting linguistically as a prohibition to enlightenment, to planetary ascension. I think that's huge. Excuse these fucking thumbs. I don't know how to change my uh uh Zoom so that the thumbs don't appear on my screen whenever I'm doing that. But um so excited by where this this conversation takes us in exploring uh these dimensions, brother. But um stand by because I'm going to insist that on the next uh symposium we take this next conversation forward. Much love to you.

SPEAKER_00 1:06:41

Thank you, brother. Thank you, Sasha. You're the best, man. Thank you.