From Student to Leader: Maddie's Journey in Media and Journalism

Host David Magolis interviews Maddie on the Campus and Character podcast as the semester ends, recognizing her as the top journalism student in the media and journalism program at Commonwealth University–Bloomsburg. Maddie explains her choice of Bloomsburg for its hands-on media program and real-world technology, and shares her interest in storytelling, journalism, and video production. She describes an internship as lead videographer at All-Star Sports Academy, creating promotional content, a branding portfolio final project to market herself as a graduating senior, and extensive involvement in the National Broadcasting Society (secretary for three years), The Voice student newspaper, the honors college, Young Life, and studying abroad twice. She discusses leadership challenges around collaboration, advice to get involved and learn from current leaders, overcoming rejection when interviewing people, pride in producing a new sports pre-game show, and plans to seek broadcasting/video work near Doylestown/Philadelphia, plus rapid-fire favorites and networking advice.

Transcript

Maddie Final

SPEAKER_03 0:00

This is the Campus and Character Podcast, where we explore leadership stories to inspire growth and connect leaders. I'm your host, David Mogolas, and I'm with a very special guest, Maddie. How are you doing, Maddie?

SPEAKER_00 0:11

Hello, I'm good. How are you?

SPEAKER_03 0:12

Yeah, thanks for being here. Now, the semester is just about over, and you're here for a very specific reason. And that reason is you were the top journalism student in media and journalism the past four years.

SPEAKER_00 0:27

Yes. Congratulations. It's truly an honor.

SPEAKER_03 0:31

Congratulations. Yeah, number one. It always feels good to be number one.

SPEAKER_00 0:35

It is. It's nice.

SPEAKER_03 0:37

Yeah. So, Maddie, how did you get to Commonwealth Bloomsburg? How did you get here? Why'd you choose this school?

SPEAKER_00 0:43

Oh, that's a great question. I was actually between a bunch of schools. There were a lot that I was looking at, but Bloomsburg really seemed to have a very great media program. Um, I loved all the hands-on opportunities it offered me. I loved that that we were working with technology that is used in the real world while we were still here in Bloomsburg. Um, I think that's one of Bloomsburg's biggest strengths, is they have a lot of, you know, hands-on opportunities and a lot of technology that you see in the real world is used every day in the classroom. And I really liked that. And I always tell the story that I just stepped on campus and it just felt like home even before I was a Husky. I just loved, just loved the campus. And as I was going to other schools and touring other places and looking at my options, I would always come back to, well, it's not as good as Bloomsburg, or it doesn't look as cute as Bloomsburg, or the program is not as good as Bloomsburg. And so that kind of made the decision for me when I caught myself doing that. Um I just realized that I loved it here. And this was kind of my top school when comparing to all the others.

SPEAKER_03 1:50

We're so glad you loved it. And you were so glad you chose us to come to school and uh learn from us and work with us. And we learned a lot from you as well. So don't think it was just all one way. We learned a lot from you. So why media in journalism? You could have picked any major. Why media in journalism?

SPEAKER_00 2:04

Yes, um, I have always been really fascinated with media. I just, I don't know, I love making, you know, like little slideshows of photos or videos with my friend, you know. I think all a lot of people have the experience of like, oh, like with your cousins, you make fun little like dance videos. Like that has always just kind of been something that I was into. And I love meeting people and talking to people and hearing people's stories. So being able to capture that and share that with the rest of the world was something that I was really interested in.

SPEAKER_03 2:35

And so you chose journalism.

SPEAKER_00 2:38

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 2:39

And so, what do you love about journalism? Telling those stories is one.

SPEAKER_00 2:44

Yeah, I mean, I love telling the stories. Like I said, I love getting to know people. I really enjoy like the behind the scenes, the camera work and everything like that. Like it's just always been a very interesting profession to me. And I'm really excited that the opportunities that journalism and media in general can open up. You know, there's so many jobs that I could go into, so many different ways I could work in this field. And so that's always been that's a really cool draw for me. And I'm excited to see kind of who I get to meet, where I end up, and the things I get to do because of my career in journalism.

SPEAKER_03 3:15

I love that optimistic outlook because we hear every day how AI is taking everyone's jobs. There's no jobs. But you have the outlook like, hey, there's gonna be a lot of jobs out there. There's a lot of opportunities for me out there. Now, did you complete an internship or anything?

SPEAKER_00 3:31

I did. I was an intern at All-Star Sports Academy, which is a it's mainly like a baseball and softball training facility back in my hometown. It's near like Warrington, Pennsylvania. Um, that's where I actually did the internship. And so for that, I was a lead videographer. And so I was going out filming practices, filming tournaments, all that kind of stuff, and then making promotional videos that were seen on their, you know, Instagram page, TikTok pages. I think some are even used on their website. Um, so that was a really cool opportunity.

SPEAKER_03 4:05

So now you've confused me.

unknown 4:08

Okay.

SPEAKER_03 4:09

So you're a journalism major, but you're talking about doing all this video stuff. How awesome is that?

SPEAKER_00 4:16

It's very awesome. Yeah. I I kind of when picking my track, obviously, because there are four tracks for the media and journalism major. I came into it really interested in journalism and telling those stories, but I also have a heart for video and the behind the scenes and production. Um, and so I kind of am in between. I do a lot of both. Um as of now, I think I'm leaning more towards the video side now that I've gotten more of that experience. And I've ended up taking more video classes and like video production classes during my time in Bloomsburg than journalism classes, but I think both go hand in hand really well. You know, you have to be able to tell a story and not just know how to work the camera. So they really partner well. But yes, I did my internship more in the video side.

SPEAKER_03 5:06

Well, that's really a unique thing about the curriculum is that you're exposed to so many different areas of the media and journalism field. You're not just exposed to journalism, you're exposed to journalism and video and social media and public relations. And so that gives you a breath of um focus in the field because it's it can be so broad and you don't know where you're gonna end up when you graduate. So having exposure to all that is pretty beneficial, I think.

SPEAKER_00 5:32

Exactly. Yeah, it definitely is, and it all ties really well together, which is nice. You know, you learn a lot, but it all comes together in how you communicate these these stories and these messages to the world.

SPEAKER_03 5:43

In fact, you were talking about a final project before we jumped on the podcast. Can you tell us a little bit about that final project?

SPEAKER_00 5:50

Sure. So, in one of our other professors or the other media professors, we have a project where we're creating a brand and like a branding portfolio. So I chose to have my brand be myself, a media production for my work, my media production. And so for that, we have created like a color scheme for our brand. We've created a brand logo, we've created the banner to put at the top of a YouTube page for our brand. And that's actually been really cool for me because I've been trying to build my brand. I am a graduating senior, so in a couple days, I'll be out in the real world. And so having that brand and having people know who I am and what I do and the quality of work that I bring is really important to me. And so being able to work on that with a professor who knows what he's doing and can give me tips and tricks on how to make it make myself as marketable as possible has been really beneficial. So I'm enjoying that project. But yes.

SPEAKER_03 6:49

So you've done an internship. What other things have you been involved in?

SPEAKER_00 6:54

Of course. Probably my biggest involvement has been Bloomsburg's chapter of the National Broadcasting Society, which is a video production, broadcasting production club on campus. We've done like a weekly news show. We've done TikToks and like interviews with people on the quad. We've done a short film. We actually are in the works with our second short film. We've done just a lot of really cool projects, which has also given me a lot more opportunity for, you know, hands-on experience with cameras. I'm going out, interviewing people, getting these clips, building packages for our news show, which has all been really cool. And it's pretty much a totally student-run club, which is really cool. So we we bounce ideas off each other. We get to figure out what we want to do as students, and we go out and we make it happen and we navigate problems as they come up and everything like that. But it's been a really cool opportunity. I also was involved in Young Life, which is a Christian organization on campus. I, for my freshman or for my sophomore and junior year, I was a member of the college chapter of Young Life. And then this this year as a senior, I was able to be a leader for the high school young life in Danville, which has been really cool. So just getting to see, you know, how college works and then being able to pass on the fun and the the love I had for Jesus with these high schoolers is really cool. So those are my main and you were in the National Honors Society, right?

SPEAKER_03 8:26

You're in the Honors Society.

SPEAKER_00 8:27

I was, yes, I'm in the honors college, yes, which is also really cool. And that actually gave me a lot of really cool opportunities. Um, and it helped fund and help me to be able to study abroad, um, actually two times, which is really cool.

SPEAKER_02 8:42

Wow.

SPEAKER_00 8:43

And yeah, and I was in the voice, the student newspaper for a few years.

SPEAKER_03 8:48

Yeah. So you've touched on everything. And yeah. What I really noticed, um, I had you in class, but I what I really noticed is you were doing so much outside the university too. You mentioned a couple of those things here, but you also, when you traveled abroad, that was really impactful for a lot of students because a lot of students were watching you saying, Wow, this is really cool, Maddie. You're seeing a lot of cool stuff, you're learning a lot of cool stuff. Yeah, and you can do that all while you're in college, and a lot of students don't know that. And yeah, you were you did such a good job, just well, kind of advertising it, broadcasting it, telling everyone your story, and you did a marvelous job at that. And I just wanted to compliment you on that experience, and it's gonna stick with you for the rest of your life.

SPEAKER_00 9:32

Yes, definitely, yeah. Everyone's styles, you know, it's cliche, like study abroad will change your life, but it really will. Like, it teaches you things you don't even expect to be taught.

SPEAKER_03 9:40

Um, we're gonna take a quick break. We'll be back with Maddie with a couple of questions here about her leadership, other things she's done on campus, and you heard a little bit about her character, we're gonna explore that a little bit more. We'll be right back with the campus in character podcast.

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Maddy Part 2

SPEAKER_03 10:38

Welcome back, friends. I'm here with my special guest, Maddie. We're just sharing some stories offline here a little bit. Um tell me a little bit about what she likes to do outside of school and what her plans are for after graduation. So, Maddie, what are your plans? What are you thinking about doing?

SPEAKER_00 10:54

Right now, I'm looking for a job. Um I'm trying to work anywhere in the media field, most likely broadcasting or video production, but I'm open to anything. And I'll be moving back home to the Doylestown area to hopefully find a job. Um, and then we'll see from there.

SPEAKER_03 11:12

Are you a sports fan?

SPEAKER_00 11:15

I am a sports fan, yeah. I wouldn't say I'm a probably not as much of a sports fan as others, but I do really enjoy Philly sports.

SPEAKER_03 11:23

Yeah, Philly Pride. I have not met anyone on this podcast yet that is a Steelers fan or a Pittsburgh fan. Everyone because we're in Bloomsburg. I thought we were kind of in the middle of the state. I thought we might meet somebody that's 50-50. You never know, but no, it's it hasn't been. It's been 100% Philly's fan. So I need to start interviewing some other people. Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_01 11:46

Go Philly. Yeah, go Philly. That's right.

SPEAKER_03 11:48

That's right. So thinking about video production, thinking about something in the video side, which is really cool. Um, hopefully lots of opportunities out there, um, especially in the Philadelphia market, it's a pretty big market. Um, I just want to back up a little bit to being in college. You've taken on some leadership roles within your student organizations and stuff. Can you talk about those leadership roles?

SPEAKER_00 12:13

Of course. So during my time in the National Broadcasting Society, I was elected to be secretary of the club. So I was secretary for about three years, actually. I started my sophomore year and am still in that position today.

SPEAKER_04 12:28

Great.

SPEAKER_00 12:29

So that has been really cool. I work really closely with the president in figuring out, you know, what we want to do, coordinating dates, um, taking notes, making sure everyone is up to date on information and just really communicating with the club members, everything that we want to do, everything that has to get done, and just what what we're working on, which is really cool.

SPEAKER_03 12:53

So you see some other student leaders on campus, you're talking about the president and stuff like that. What are some of the biggest challenges that you see campus student leaders facing?

SPEAKER_00 13:04

I think sometimes just the collaboration can be a challenge that has to be dealt with only because I think our students are very passionate about what they want to do and they have a vision for how they want certain things to come out, especially with media projects where you know you can't do it all yourself. You have to work together. And so finding a way to make sure that everyone's ideas are included and everyone feels like they the project is coming out in a way that they're gonna be proud of it, I think is sometimes a challenge because, you know, everyone wants something, you know, you want your project to come out perfect. Everyone wants something to look good. And so figuring out how to mesh all the ideas of what looks good to come up with a project that everyone enjoys is sometimes a challenge, but it's definitely a skill you have to learn if you work in the media industry. You'll have to know how to how to navigate that conflict. And so, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 13:59

So if a student wants to become a leader on campus, whether it's in a student organization or somewhere else, do you have any advice for them what they could do, what they can prepare for to become a leader on campus?

SPEAKER_00 14:10

Of course. I would say the first step is always just to get involved. Get involved with something you're passionate about. That passion will come through and people will be able to see that. They'll see, you know, if you're passionate about something, then you'll work harder to, you know, keep going. You'll work harder to get something to look the way you want it to look or something, make something more professional. Nobody's gonna put extra effort into something that they're not enjoying. So make sure you find something that you're enjoying. And then I would say work hard on it. Look at the people who are in leadership positions now, see what they're doing, see what they're doing inside the club, but also outside the club. How are they furthering their growth and how are they developing their skill set? And then I don't want to say copy that, but do similar things. Go, you know, ask them for their advice. Ask them, you know, hey, you're doing, I saw you were doing this. How did you do that? Or how did you get that opportunity? How did you go about making this project? Things like that. Um, and that will go a long way. People will see the hard work that you're putting in. They'll see that you want to improve and you want to be more of a leader, and then those leadership opportunities will come super easy to you.

SPEAKER_03 15:19

Excellent advice. Now, has there been something in the last four years that's been really difficult for you that you just had to overcome? It could have been like maybe it was public speaking, maybe it was a video project. Was there something that you just had to overcome over the last four years?

SPEAKER_00 15:38

Oh, um this one might sound a little silly, but this is definitely a big thing when working in media. Just the idea of people saying no. And what I mean by that is like when I go out on campus, I'm frequently interviewing students for TikToks or for um articles for the voice, anything like that. And so when you go out and you're like, hey, do you wanna can like can you comment on this or can you answer this question? And people are like, no, then you're stuck like you start to feel a little defeated because you're like, you know, I need this, like I need this answer. Why are you telling me no? But overcoming that has been something that I've kind of gotten used to over the four over my four years here. And so realizing, like, okay, that's okay, like I'll get someone else, or like I can think of I can ask someone else about this. That has definitely been a challenge. Um, because you know, little freshman near me was like, Why are you telling me no? Like, what are we gonna do? We don't like it's everybody, it's not just you, it's everybody, yeah, yeah, it is, and so yeah, and I think again, like I think that's something you have to learn in the media field because I don't think people are gonna stop saying no to me the moment I graduate. Like, people are still gonna be like, No, I don't want to talk about that, or I don't want to answer that, or I'm super busy, I'm running to a class, or I'm running to a meeting. So learning that I think will definitely help me in the future.

SPEAKER_03 16:59

That's excellent advice. I love that so much.

SPEAKER_00 17:02

I know it sounds silly, but it's the first thing that came to my mind.

SPEAKER_03 17:05

Like, as human beings, we don't like being told no. I mean, nobody likes being told no, it's just part of our nature, right? So, is there one project that you're most proud of? Is there something that you're like, wow, I'm so glad I did that project? It's really something great.

SPEAKER_00 17:22

That's uh that's an interesting question.

SPEAKER_03 17:24

You can only pick one, Maddie. I know you've got a lot of them, so just one, all right.

SPEAKER_00 17:29

Last fall, so fall of 2024, I was in Dr. Genevieve's uh cap not capstone, but it was like a media production class. And we came up with a pregame show for the sports team, like any of the sports games that are going on. So we did a bunch for football and a bunch for basketball. And what we would do is we would interview the coaches and have people who would talk about like statistics and the player statistics and how they thought the game was gonna go and the strengths and weaknesses of both teams. And I would say that's one of my proudest accomplishments because that was something that hasn't really been done before in in the Bloomsburg atmosphere. And so, you know, me along with a lot of my classmates, we really came up with that. We made a lot of decisions of how we wanted it to look, what we wanted it to include, the people we wanted to include. And so being even just behind the scenes of that was really cool, and being able to see what came of it and how how it looked. Um, I just thought it was really cool.

SPEAKER_03 18:32

And a lot of other people did as well. They people took notice of that and they're like, this is great, this is awesome. This is like a real show now. You know, instead of just broadcasting the game, you're broadcasting everything else that goes along with that game.

SPEAKER_00 18:44

And so just make it and I think it sorry, go ahead.

SPEAKER_03 18:47

Go, go ahead.

SPEAKER_00 18:49

Um, I think it just also made it look a lot more professional because when you watch sports games like even like college basketball or football, like the NSL games, there are those people in the like betwe before the game even starts, talking about the statistics and talking about these these things that are going on and how they think the game's gonna go. And so I think it just added to the production quality. Bloomsburg, you know, the BUSN team, they already have a great production quality, they're doing a great job, and their productions look very professional, but I think this just added another level of professionalism and made it look like you were truly watching like a national sports broadcast.

SPEAKER_03 19:27

Yeah, I felt like I was watching ESPN instead of BUSN. So great job. Great job on that. So I got uh another question about Maddie being a 15-year-old Maddie. So can we think back to Maddie being 15 years old? What advice would you give Maddie at 15 from stuff you've experienced and you know now?

SPEAKER_00 19:52

Okay, definitely a good question. Um I'm trying to think. I think I think this is definitely like very cliche, but just like enjoying the process, you know, enjoy where you are and the opportunities that you have, even looking back to, you know, my freshman year self, like enjoy this time. It's not just about school, even in high school, you know, obviously grades are very important, they help you get into a good college, but also like enjoy the time you have, enjoy the opportunities you have and the extracurriculars because they truly will make more of a difference or make a very large difference. I don't want to say more of a difference, but they make a big difference in your your time and the opportunities that you have. And yeah, just have fun with it.

SPEAKER_03 20:44

That's great. Spoken like a true Philly girl because the 76ers have had for years, Joel and Bede in particular has had this saying to trust the process, and so you're trusting in the process, enjoying the process. We'll say enjoying the process here for Maddie. But yes, that's something we kind of we get caught up in all the schoolwork and all the things we gotta do. We don't just enjoy the hard times we're going through, the good times we're going through. And it's college, you you typically only do it one time, so we want to make sure we're enjoying that. That's great advice. I appreciate you sharing that. We're gonna take a quick break. We'll be back with Maddie asking her some rapid fire questions after this quick break. Are you ready, Maddie? Yeah, I'm ready. Alright, rapid fire questions coming up next. Stay tuned.

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Maddy Part 3

SPEAKER_03 22:07

Welcome back. I'm here with Maddie. We're gonna go through some replicable questions. Are you ready, Maddie? I am ready. Alright, first question is one word to describe you.

SPEAKER_00 22:20

Um I'm gonna say passionate.

SPEAKER_03 22:23

Passionate? I can see that. That's been your work ethic the last four years. You've been passionate about all the media stuff you're doing.

SPEAKER_01 22:30

Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 22:31

What's your favorite thing about Bloomsburg?

SPEAKER_00 22:35

Um, the people between friends, colleagues, you know, professors. Everyone's just awesome.

SPEAKER_03 22:43

Everyone's awesome. Everybody's awesome. What's your favorite song?

SPEAKER_00 22:48

Oh. I don't know. Like, I'm a big music person, so I like a ton of songs. Um why are no songs coming to my head right now?

SPEAKER_03 23:03

Any Phil Wiccum.

SPEAKER_00 23:05

Yeah, I do like Phil Wiccum. I love what I see.

SPEAKER_03 23:16

Go to the playlist. Yeah, I know.

SPEAKER_01 23:18

I'm going, I gotta see what's on here.

SPEAKER_00 23:23

Um, I like Praise by Elevation Worship.

SPEAKER_03 23:26

Oh, good. That's a good one. How about washed? Washed.

SPEAKER_00 23:30

Yes, yes, that's been a big one. Yeah, that's a good one. That's been a big one recently.

SPEAKER_03 23:34

So we'll I don't want to steal your favorite song. I don't want to steal it. No, no, that's a great one.

SPEAKER_00 23:39

I have been listening to that a lot.

SPEAKER_03 23:40

Do you watch any TV?

SPEAKER_00 23:43

I do. Um, I would say my favorite show is Guildmore Girls. That's like my comfort show. I watch that all the time. Then I like Friends, I've been watching. Have you seen The Morning Show? I have not. You know what that is? That's all about broadcast news. Yeah. So I really like that one.

SPEAKER_03 23:59

Um is that on Apple TV? Or is it?

SPEAKER_00 24:01

Okay, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03 24:04

Uh, what's the best professional advice you have ever been given?

SPEAKER_00 24:10

I would say just like the importance of networking. Like talk to as many people as you can because you never know who's gonna know who who can get you a job or an internship or even just a good contact. Like just reaching out to people talking to them can go a lot farther than you think.

SPEAKER_03 24:29

So who inspires you?

SPEAKER_00 24:32

Oh, um, I think I there's a lot of people that inspire me. There's I have people who inspire me in different, you know, different parts of my life. There are, you know, my friends inspire me in the type of people that they are. You know, my family inspires me in their work ethic. Both my parents are extremely hardworking, which definitely has been an inspiration. You know, um, I have classmates and even professors who are doing things media-wise and career-wise that I would love. You know, I'm very inspired by them um and the things that they're doing. So yeah, I have a lot of inspiration in my life.

SPEAKER_03 25:09

Awesome. You do. That's great. That's great. So, do you have a favorite pizza place in Bloomsburg?

SPEAKER_00 25:15

Oh, I just tried OIP pizza. Yeah. And I think that's really good.

SPEAKER_03 25:20

It's very good.

SPEAKER_00 25:21

I just tried that for the first time, and I was like, how did I miss this for all four years?

SPEAKER_03 25:25

Like so, I don't know if you like hoagies, but a pro tip OIP has some very good hoagies. They do, yes. Some of the best. They're really good. Yeah. Do you have a favorite place to eat? Since I know generally Bucks County, where you're from, do you have a favorite place to eat in Bucks County?

SPEAKER_00 25:43

Oh. Um. I really like, well, there's a place called the Skyline Tavern. That's where my family and I really go.

SPEAKER_04 25:54

Okay.

SPEAKER_00 25:54

It's it's in Shao Fon. It's like it's very much like a bar and grill, you know, burgers, cheesesteaks, things like that. That's kind of our go-to. We really like it. But I'm also a big, like, sweet gal. So I really like a wow cow ice cream. Oh, yeah. I don't know if you've heard of it. Yes. I actually used to work at a wow cow and I still go back. Like I just love it. Okay.

SPEAKER_04 26:17

Oh yeah.

SPEAKER_00 26:18

It's so good. Like every time I'm home, I'm like, I gotta go to a wow cow. Like, I gotta get my ice cream.

SPEAKER_03 26:23

They have a uh is it called Cookie Monster? It's blue.

SPEAKER_00 26:26

Okay, yeah, cookie monster.

SPEAKER_03 26:28

My son thinks that's like the funniest thing ever, and he loves it. So a little ice cream. We are big ice cream fans in this household. We would eat ice cream every day. Um, yeah, me too. Me too. If if it was just like zero calories, that'd be great. But it's not, and that's all right. We enjoy it though. When we eat it, we enjoy it. So, last question: where um is your favorite place to study?

SPEAKER_00 26:51

Oh, I have a couple. I do really like the library. I think when you have to really like lock in and get stuff done, that's a great place to go. Yeah, I also really like the fireside lounge, which is under like the husky, under husky, like dining. That's I just think that's a it's like cozy, but like also pretty quiet, so you can get a lot of work done. I would say those are kind of my top two that I go to. Awesome.

SPEAKER_03 27:20

Tell them some of your secrets now. Well, they're those are gonna be open now that you're graduating. So thank you for opening those up for the video. You can take my spot.

SPEAKER_04 27:28

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03 27:29

Well, yeah, Maddie, it's been such a pleasure talking to you. You have such a bright future ahead of you. Um, we're rooting for you. If there's anything you need, just let us know. You've done everything that basically is to do in the media field, and you've got so much more to experience. So we wish you well on your travels, we wish you well in all your media creation, and then stop back and visit us sometime too. Don't be a stranger.

SPEAKER_00 27:51

I definitely will, yes. Thank you for having me. I enjoyed this conversation and awesome.

SPEAKER_03 27:58

Well, this has been the Canvas and Character Podcast. If you like this joke, go ahead and rate and review it, share it with all your friends, and we'll be back next week with another podcast. Thanks so much, Maddie. We'll see ya. Thank you. Bye.