Women talkin' 'bout AI
We’re Jessica and Kimberly – two non-computer scientists who are just as curious (and skeptical) about generative AI as you are. Each episode, we chat with people from different backgrounds to hear how they’re making sense of AI. We keep it real, skip the jargon, and explore it with the curiosity of researchers and the openness of learners.
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Women talkin' 'bout AI
The Trojan Horse of AI
In this final guest episode of the year, we explore AI as a kind of Trojan horse: a technology that promises one thing while carrying hidden costs inside it. Those costs show up in data centers, energy and water systems, local economies, and the communities asked to host the infrastructure that makes AI possible.
We’re joined by Jon Ippolito and Joline Blais from the University of Maine for a conversation that starts with AI’s environmental footprint and expands into questions of extraction, power, education, and ethics.
In this episode, we discuss:
- Why AI can function as a Trojan horse for data extraction and profit
- What data centers actually do, and why they matter
- The environmental costs hidden inside “innovation” narratives
- The difference between individual AI use and industrial-scale impact
- Why most data center activity isn’t actually AI
- How communities are pitched data centers—and what’s often left out
- The role of gender in ethical decision-making in tech
- What AI is forcing educators to rethink about learning and work
- Why asking “Who benefits?” still cuts through the hype
- And how dissonance can be a form of clarity
Resources mentioned:
- IMPACT Risk framework: https://ai-impact-risk.com
- What Uses More:
https://what-uses-more.com
Guests:
- Jon Ippolito – artist, writer, and curator who teaches New Media and Digital Curation at the University of Maine.
- Joline Blais – researches regenerative design, teaches digital storytelling and permaculture, and advises the Terrell House Permaculture Center at the University of Maine.
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