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We’re Jessica and Kimberly – two non-computer scientists who are just as curious (and skeptical) about generative AI as you are. Each episode, we chat with people from different backgrounds to hear how they’re making sense of AI. We keep it real, skip the jargon, and explore it with the curiosity of researchers and the openness of learners.
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Women talkin' 'bout AI
Rest, Resistance, and the Protestant Work Ethic (in the Age of AI)
We’re kicking off 2026 with our most personal episode yet.
This conversation wasn’t planned. We sat down intending to talk about what comes next for the show, and instead found ourselves in a deeper discussion about work, burnout, ambition, and what it means to live in a moment where AI is rapidly reshaping labor, identity, and trust.
In this episode:
- Why “work is sacred” feels harder to believe and harder to let go of
- Burnout, hustle culture, and the cognitive dissonance of automation
- Labor zero, post-labor economics, and the fear beneath productivity
- Status, money, degrees, and inherited stories about worth
- Rest as resistance and nervous system regulation
- AI, trust erosion, and the danger of slow confusion
- Dopamine, addiction, and withdrawal at a societal scale
- Why connection may be the real antidote
Sources:
- David Shapiro's Substack on Labor Zero: https://daveshap.substack.com/p/im-starting-a-movement
- He, She, and It by Marge Piercy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/He,_She_and_It
- Ethan Mollick's Substack on the temptation of The Button: https://www.oneusefulthing.org/p/setting-time-on-fire-and-the-temptation
- Rest Is Resistance by Tricia Hersey: https://blackgarnetbooks.com/item/oR7uwsLR1Xu2xerrvdfsqA
- The Last Invention (AI Podcast): https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-last-invention/id1839942885
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