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Replay: What AI Governance Actually Means, with Clara Hawking

Kimberly Becker & Jessica Parker Season 3 Episode 32

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Kimberly and Jessica are taking a short break from new episodes, so this week we're re-airing one of our favorites, our conversation with Clara Hawking. Clara is a computer scientist, philosopher, and AI governance expert working in K-12 and beyond.

Why now? Since we recorded this, the law Clara champions in this episode has crossed the finish line. On August 2, 2026, the EU AI Act became fully enforceable, making the EU the first jurisdiction to impose comprehensive, binding regulation on AI systems, even as Brussels negotiates a "Digital Omnibus" that would delay the Act's most demanding high-risk provisions until compliance standards are actually ready. And here in the US, the state-by-state patchwork Kimberly and Clara discuss is now itself contested by a House discussion draft called the Great American AI Act, would temporarily preempt state and local laws regulating AI model development for three years. Everything Clara says about trust, risk, and who gets harmed when governance fails has only gotten more current

In this episode:

  • What AI governance actually is: not IT, not cybersecurity, but behavior and culture
  • GDPR and the EU AI Act, explained plainly: rights-based vs. risk-based regulation
  • Why parents can't give informed consent about their kids' data, and what an uploaded IEP could cost a child in 20 years
  • The convergence phase: AI, biotech, robotics, and quantum computing feeding into each other, and why converged risk compounds instead of adding up
  • Trust as the bottleneck for AI adoption, from Jessica's Tesla to recidivism algorithms
  • Clara's "me first" governance advice: why are you using this technology, and can you justify the answer?
  • Peach and Pit

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