Boundless Insights - with Aviva Klompas

Gazology – with Matti Friedman

Season 2 Episode 79

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In the two and a half years since the Gaza war began, a new body of writing has taken hold, one that claims to explain not just the conflict, but the world itself. In this episode, host Aviva Klompas speaks with Matti Friedman about his essay Introduction to Gazology. He argues that this emerging genre isn’t really about Gaza as a place, but uses it as a framework to interpret global politics, morality, and power. 

They discuss why this narrative has gained traction after October 7, the central role of language—especially the use of “genocide”—and how key elements of the conflict are often left out. The conversation also explores how Gaza has become a lens for broader Western concerns, and what that reveals about the way the conflict is being understood.

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Introduction to Gazology by Matti Friedman

Guest Bio:

Matti Friedman is an award-winning author of five works of nonfiction, translated into more than a dozen languages. His newest book is Out of the Sky: Heroism and Rebirth in Nazi Europe, published in 2026.

His previous books include Who by Fire: Leonard Cohen in the Sinai, a Vanity Fair best book of the year, Spies of No Country, which won the Natan Book Award, and Pumpkinflowers, a New York Times Notable Book.

A former Associated Press correspondent, his reporting has appeared in The New York Times, The Atlantic, and Smithsonian. He now writes from Jerusalem for The Free Press.

Matti was born in Toronto and lives in Jerusalem with his family.