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#022 - How I’d get into running if I had to start all over again (Galloway Method)
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After seven years of running experience, I share the exact approach I would take if I had to start my running journey all over again.
• Don't compare your times to others on social media—you don't see all the miles they've put in to build their fitness
• Use the Galloway method (run-walk-run) when starting out to reset your form, lower heart rate, and make runs mentally manageable
• Focus on time rather than distance when beginning—aim for 30, 40, then 60-minute runs at conversational pace
• Start with 2-3 runs per week: two easy pace runs during the week and one longer run on weekends
• Follow the 10% rule—increase volume by 10% weekly for three weeks, then drop to 70-80% on the fourth week
• Join a run club or find running partners to make the time pass faster
• Build sustainability through a strong aerobic base to prevent injuries
Go out and run your race.
Welcome & Episode Introduction
Speaker 1What's up , guys ? Welcome back to another episode of the Run your Race podcast . I'm your host , pierre Hsiao , and I am so excited for this one today . Today we've got how I'd get into running if I had to start all over again . Okay , so how I'd get into running if I had to start all over again . So at this point it's 2025 .
Speaker 1I've been running for about six and a half seven years , consistently , like half marathons , marathons , so on and so forth ultra marathons , triathlons and I've learned so much about running . I've built my aerobic base . I've gotten so much faster , grown so much in knowledge of the sport , built my aerobic base . I've gotten so much faster , grown so much in knowledge of the sport , and I talk so often to people getting into it . And so this is through a lens of what I help people with the most , help my athletes with the most , but then also what I wish I would have known when I started . Okay , the first thing , the first thing well , actually , right off the jump , I'm going to say don't compare your times to my times . Don't compare your times to someone else on social media . Yeah , if they can do it , you can do it too . But don't get frustrated why you're not there yet because you don't see the steps , the miles that they've put in to this to grow their fitness . Okay , so just wanted to preface this
The Galloway Method Explained
Speaker 1with that . Now , the first thing I will say is I wish I knew the Galloway method growing up . I wish I knew the Galloway method seven years ago , before I started running .
Speaker 1And what is the Galloway method ? It's created by this guy named Jeff Galloway . Essentially , what it is is run , walk , run , walk . So a lot of people think , when it comes to running , you have to run the whole time . But in reality , especially during these ultra marathons , you don't run the whole time and so , especially as you're getting into running , don't feel like you have to run every single minute of your run . In fact , it's really helpful to be able to walk during your runs , when you first get started out . Why is that ? Well , it helps bring your heart rate down , it helps reset your form , your running form , and also , probably the biggest thing , it helps mentally . It helps you break down this run into something more manageable . Okay , so , yes , when you get into running , utilize the Galloway method if you need to . When you get into running , utilize the Galloway method if you need to . Some of you may be past that . You don't really need to walk . You can run three miles , five miles , seven miles without having to walk . But if you haven't , if you can't do that , use the Galloway method .
Speaker 1So I was training my mentor , steve Weatherford , for a 100-mile race and he's a big guy , he's really strong , really fit . And he's a big guy , he's really strong , really fit . But he's a big guy , he's over . I think at the time he was probably 220 , 220 pounds , just guys shredded . But his cardio wasn't that great . So I told him I was like Steve , when you do these runs , use the Galway method . And he's like what's that ? Well , run , walk , use the Galway method . And he's like what's that ? Well , run , walk . So I want you to run for six minutes and walk for four and just keep repeating that until you get the duration that you need to . And he's like I can do that , I can run six minutes at a time . So that's what he did Run six , walk four , run six , walk four . And it was a good cadence for him to get into .
Speaker 1Now , really , the intervals
Weekly Running Schedule Recommendations
Speaker 1in which you use of running and walking don't really matter . What matters is that you are doing it and you're progressing more running , less walking . So you could also do something like , if you're really starting out , like , run one minute , walk one minute , and just keep repeating that , or run to walk one , run three , run for walk one , and you can make up variations of that that are going to fit . But ultimately the goal is to run more and walk less . And when you're running , run at a conversational pace , run at a pace that's easy for you , or easy relative , and do that okay . So you want to run at this conversational pace ? Okay , now you're probably like Pierce . Okay , I know I'm supposed to run a conversational pace . I know I'm supposed to run , walk .
Speaker 1Now , how many times a week should I run ? What are the formats of those runs ? And so what I would say , getting started now , I'd run two to three times a week and what I do is easy pace runs during the week of a few miles , and then I would do one long run , if I can speak correctly , one long run per week , and that would be on a Saturday where you build up your distance and ultimately closer and closer to your race distance . And so also one thing I'll say too is , when you get started out , don't focus as much on the distance but focus a lot on the time . Focus on going for a 30 minute run , focus on going for a 40 minute run , then a 60 minute run , then a 60 minute run , because what that's going to do is help you to focus on just getting the time on your feet and not worrying about the pace , because a lot of people , when they get started , they're so focused on pace and that actually hurts building their endurance , because they're running too fast when in reality you want to run slower . Pull it back and that helps build up your endurance . Okay . So focus on time , run two to three times per week and go for easy pace runs and then a long run . Then , after you know a couple weeks and months of that , then you can
Smart Volume Progression Strategy
Speaker 1add in some speed work . But you don't want to be doing too much speed work off the jump or else that can get you injured . Okay , now you're like okay , pierce , while I'm running three times a week , I've got two easy runs that are 30 minutes each during the week . I run for 60 minutes on the weekends , on Saturday .
Speaker 1Now how do I progress ? The thing that I like to do most is I like to progress . It's called the 10% rule by about 10% each week for three weeks and then on the fourth week I'll cut the volume back to about 70% to 80% of that third week . So 70% to 80% of the third week's volume is the fourth week . Then on the fifth week you take what you peaked at that third week and then you add 10% to that and then you keep building from there . Okay , so I'll repeat that again . So you increase volume by 10% each week Weeks one , two and three , then week four you take it to 70 to 80% of that third week and then then week five , you don't do 10 more than the fourth because you dropped it down . You do 10 more than the third week . Okay , so that's really what you do as far as increasing volume .
Speaker 1And then also know yourself don't push yourself for no reason too far , because you want to go for sustainability over everything . You want to focus on building a strong base . The only reason I've been able to run 200 mile races , fast marathons , ultramans , ironmans , all these things , is because I have such a strong aerobic base and the reason I haven't gotten injured too much I mean , I've hardly had any injuries , even going from not running a 200 mile race to three 200s in three months is because I've been smart about building . Okay , so focus on those things . That's how I'd get
Building Base & Final Tips
Speaker 1into running .
Speaker 1If I had to start all over again , I'd focus on the Galloway method . I do easy pace runs and then a long run . On that long run it would be at a conversational pace . Oh , one thing I forgot to say is run with people . Join a run club , join . I just started this amazing run club in Dallas called run with Christ , great community . But when you're running with other people , it makes the time go by so much faster . It's such a hack . Okay . So run with people . Run two to three times per week starting out . Increase volume by 10% each week and then the fourth week , cut it to 70 to 80% of that volume and focus on building a strong base . All right , well , I hope this helped you get started in your running journey . Go out and run your race .