EP: 4 - Unmasking Resilience: Kim Zoller's Rise from Challenge to Clarity

Unmasking Resilience: Kim’s Rise from Challenge to Clarity

In this episode of the Unmasking Effect Show, we delve into the inspiring journey of Kim Zoller, a distinguished author and founder of ID 360 Inc., who has made remarkable strides in leadership training and development. Kim shares her story of facing and overcoming significant challenges, including the death of a father figure and personal setbacks, using them as fuel for growth and leadership. She discusses her daily rituals, meditation practices, and the transformative power of mindfulness and therapy. As she reflects on her experiences, Kim offers valuable advice for those struggling with their own trials, emphasizing the importance of finding the right support and actively working towards emotional and mental well-being. Listeners are invited to join the Unmasking Effect community for further engagement and resources on personal growth and transformation.

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The Unmasking Effect Podcast - Ike Anderson + Kim Zoller

[00:00:00] Ike Anderson: Hello and welcome to the Unmasking Effect Show, where we dive deep into stories of reinvention, resilience, and success. Today, I'm beyond excited to introduce a truly remarkable guest, one who embodies all that and more, Kim z. Tim is an accomplished author of multiple books. The founder of ID 360 Inc. And a powerhouse in the leadership training and development field.

[00:00:29] She's not just great at what she does; she is the best. What makes Kim's journey so inspiring is her tenacity. She faced major challenges head-on and has not only overcome them, but use them as a fuel. To become a leader in her industry, I wanted to have her on because her story is a testament to what's possible when we commit to reinvention and growth.

[00:00:54] In today's conversation, we'll explore how Kim navigated and overcame her biggest challenges.

[00:01:00] the principles of leadership and growth that she's honed over the years, and her advice for anyone looking to reinvent themselves and fly. So whether you are looking to make a change in. Your life or simply need some inspiration.

 [00:01:17] This episode is for you. Let's dive in.

 [00:01:25] Tell me what you're into, like what are you really passionate about? 

 [00:01:28] Kim Zoller: My personal stuff is really focused on living in joy. That is, that is my, I literally wake up. And say to myself, what can I do to live in joy today? 

[00:01:42] Mm. 

[00:01:43] Kim Zoller: And um, and how can I, when I don't feel the joy and I feel the disconnect, I know that I'm not in alignment.

 [00:01:52] So it could be, it could be a conversation I have with someone. All of a sudden I'll have a feeling and I'll be like, there's. Something going on [00:02:00] here, and I have to just figure out how, why am I, why am I taking on someone's stuff? Why am I taking things in? So my, so really the work that I've been doing, Ike is, is for many, many years besides the growth because this is what I do for a living, right?

 [00:02:16] It's like I am all into growth and helping leaders grow. And I really thought that I was doing the work. And then, um, and then, um, I had a little breakdown. You know, I had a, I had a few things happen in my life that, um, that created a major drop for me. And one was my dad died and he was a major part of my life, not my real father, um, but a, a basically my, my father, my real father, he wasn't my biological father from the time I was four.

 [00:02:48] So he died. I have two boys and they moved from America to another country and they did both. Uh, subsequently decided that they were [00:03:00] gonna stay there. And then I had a big breakup, um, with someone. And interestingly enough, like the breakup was right, like it should not, you know, it was not, it was not meant to be in my life.

[00:03:12] Mm-hmm. And I truly, truly know that. But what happened was is that, you know, it's like trauma has layering effects and something happens and you think it's that thing. 

[00:03:23] Mm-hmm. And 

[00:03:23] Kim Zoller: um, and I was, so I have to tell you, just because of the work that I. Do. I woke up and I felt like I literally couldn't get out of bed and felt like I was in a fishbowl, and I said, and like the world is swimming around me.

[00:03:40] And I was like, don't they know that it's so. Oh my God. You know that feeling of just like, it's so intense in your head and don't they see like what pain I'm in? Mm-hmm. Um, that's how I equate it. Like I'm in this fishbowl, I'm looking outside and everyone's kind of like functioning and, and in that world I'm totally [00:04:00] functioning like no one would know.

[00:04:01] But inside I'm like completely in the fricking fishbowl going, God. So I, where do I go? Anyway, so I, I, I lit, I literally woke up one morning and I said, you know the work, you know what to do, so do it. And I started, um, I started a really, a, um, I. Getting into mindfulness, i'd. The funny thing is in college, when meditation was not even a thing, I was doing it, but I had consistently, so anyway, so I started meditating a lot, a lot.

 [00:04:34] And I can tell you about that journey. Um, 

 [00:04:37] Ike Anderson: but Kim, just tell me a little bit more about this fishbowl, though. It sounds very familiar. 

 [00:04:44] Kim Zoller: Yeah, the fishbowl, it's a very, you know, I, it's a very, um, surreal experience, especially for someone who, like, I'm very much a part of the world in the sense that, um, I'm very open, I'm very extroverted, I'm [00:05:00] very, um, like in the conversation, I, um, I love people and all of a sudden to feel like, um.

 [00:05:10] And it was really, all of a sudden it was like a crash. 

 [00:05:14] Mm-hmm. 

 [00:05:14] Kim Zoller: So, um, to, you know, to the point of like walking into our room and noticing things around me and it's all in slow motion. And, um, and then feeling like I needed to, um. I needed to like, take something to calm down, like, oh my God, what can I, what can I get to, you know, like, like, like is there a Valium?

 [00:05:40] And I'm not like a drug taker. So, but that feeling mm-hmm. 

 [00:05:44] You know, 

 [00:05:45] Kim Zoller: and, um, and I, I, and I'm, and I did like, I really. I, I, I, you know, I, I did anything I could to get away from that feeling. Mm-hmm. Um, you know, I would get on an [00:06:00] airplane and I would ju and which I was traveling a ton, and I'd get on the airplane.

 [00:06:05] I. And people were talking, everything's going on around me. And I'm like, are they saying something? Do they get what's happening in the world? Do they, do they understand what's going on inside of me? What happens if it's going on inside of other people? Mm-hmm. 

[00:06:23] You 

[00:06:23] Kim Zoller: know, this, these were just the thoughts as people were blah, blah, blah.

 [00:06:27] Do you wanna drink? You know, like it like. It just, 

 [00:06:31] Ike Anderson: there's this unconsciousness that was happening and yeah, you were, you were just observing what was going on and trying to figure it out. Yeah. So do you feel like. What happened with your dad? Your sons moving, like everything that was happening, was it like compounding?

 [00:06:48] Is that what, what it felt like? 

 [00:06:49] Kim Zoller: Yeah, so basically I didn't, you know, here's the thing, like I didn't even realize that I luckily had like a really, really good therapist who I know go had been going to for years, [00:07:00] and I, I'm not a, I'm not a person who does things out of, um. Reaction. Mm-hmm. I really, really believe in just constant, like, what am I doing in my brain?

 [00:07:10] What am I doing to rewire my brain? Um, what, you know, if there is something, like, if there's a pattern like Tony says, if there's a pattern, figure out the pattern. Mm-hmm. So constantly trying to figure those things out. So luckily I had this amazing relationship with her for many years and she basically said like, I called her, you know, out of nowhere.

 [00:07:27] I'm like, Linda, we need to meet. And um, and then, you know, she basically said, Kim, it's just. So obvious it's 'cause it really had nothing to do with like the final straw kind of thing. It really had to do with major men in my life. 

 [00:07:44] Mm-hmm. 

 [00:07:44] Kim Zoller: Um, going away, it could have been people, it doesn't necessarily have to do with men, it just that they are all men.

 [00:07:51] Right. You know, my children included. And, um, it was, it was just, it was for some reason. It [00:08:00] brought back a lot of things and it brought up a lot of things. 

[00:08:02] Mm-hmm. 

[00:08:03] Kim Zoller: And you know what? I, it was the best thing that could have happened to me. 

 [00:08:09] Ike Anderson: Why is that? 

 [00:08:10] Kim Zoller: Oh my God. It was the beginning of a journey for the last, uh, six years.

 [00:08:17] It's been like five, six years, six years. I cannot even tell you like the, the journey of the last six years of finding myself. Of being myself, of figuring out who I am in this world. And then, you know, we attract things into our lives, right? So I, um, I was with a client who I was coaching a big executive for a very large company, and, um, he said to me, uh, Kim, what's up with you today?

 [00:08:49] And I said, nothing. Nothing. All is good. And he's like, you are full of it. What's up? I said, I just, uh, some things happened. I didn't even know [00:09:00] about like the compounding. I just thought it was the one straw. Right? So I'm like, this happened and he gave me a book. He's like, go read this book. It's by Dr. Joe Dispenza called Breaking the Habit of Being Yourself.

 [00:09:11] Mm-hmm. So 

[00:09:13] Kim Zoller: I read that book, I couldn't, I read the book, I listened to the book every day. Every night I couldn't, if I wasn't working, I was, or, or, um, or doing things, you know, my kids were gone. So if I wasn't working, um, I literally was doing something with that book. 

 [00:09:29] Mm-hmm. And then I 

[00:09:30] Kim Zoller: started doing the meditations every day, every night, every day, every morning, every night.

[00:09:35] And then I was also doing another. Mindfulness app as well, but I, um, which I love Sam Harris waking up. Mm-hmm. And I, but I started just religiously Ike doing this, and I started seeing my life starting to change. And then I got very lucky because my therapist suggested that I go to this place and called Onsite in Nashville.

 [00:09:57] Mm-hmm. And it was, it was really just [00:10:00] like, um. It was the most amazing experience. But I remember getting there, being in the fishbowl, going there and then getting there and saying to her, I hate this. Why am I here? This is not Kim. This is not, you know, this is not what I do. This is not how I live my life.

[00:10:19] I'm in a therapy place. You know, like, and, and, and it turned out to be the most amazing place. All, all different people there and you know, basically it was 80 people and they split you into a group of 10 and for, you know, basically 10 hours a day you are with your 10, your nine other people and a therapist, and you are just working through your life.

[00:10:45] And the whole Health Life program. And uh, it's funny because I literally, like I said to my children at the end, I said, this is someplace that I would want you to go to preventative. Like I would want everyone. And then [00:11:00] two weeks ago, my son who listens to this, uh, podcaster, who's a, a marathon runner, 'cause my son runs marathons.

[00:11:06] His name is Rich Roll, and he literally was interviewing this hedge fund guy. From Wall Street who's like this major, major wealth, you know, management guy. Basically tell the audience that, um, he had, he had gone to this place and he had done this program and my son was like, oh my god, mom, he did it too.

 [00:11:28] So I started doing that and then I started going to Dr. Joe's retreats and um, this has all been very life changing for me.

 [00:11:40] Ike Anderson: Staying in that bubble or the fishbowl we call it. Um, do you feel like you needed help to get out of there? Yeah. Or do you feel like you could have stayed in there longer? Did it feel comfortable? 

 [00:11:54] Kim Zoller: Oh God, it's hell. Who wants to stay in the fishbowl? Could hell, Ike? I mean, listen, I don't know [00:12:00] if you've ever experienced it.

 [00:12:01] I, I, I don't know. You know, there are some people that experience it, unfortunately, every day. Yes. I. I hated it. I hated it and I knew it. I hate, you know, the good thing is, is that I am, um, because again, because of what I do, I was very, very cognizant 

 [00:12:21] mm-hmm. 

 [00:12:22] Kim Zoller: Of, um, being able to look outside of myself and know that there was something that was really, um, unusual going on and unusual for me.

 [00:12:31] And I also knew that I needed to do something right away, and I knew that it needed to be done. Like. Swiftly and a lot. 

 [00:12:40] Mm-hmm. And 

 [00:12:41] Kim Zoller: I, um, like I, it, it needed to happen and I was ready to do anything and everything. To get out of that fishbowl. 

 [00:12:50] Ike Anderson: So you found some help. You realized you needed help and you started getting some direction and started clearing some of the things that, that, that were coming [00:13:00] up for you.

 [00:13:00] Kim Zoller: Yeah. You know, there's a saying, I'm sure you've heard it, many people say it, whether it's Dr. Joe or Tony or many, many people, um, that when, and, and Einstein said it with, with problems, he said, you cannot solve a problem with the same mind you go into the problem with. And Dr. Joe says. When you're in the jar, you cannot see the label on the jar.

 [00:13:20] And, you know, every people have different sayings for the same thing. And the fact is, when you're in the jar or in the fishbowl, you, you cannot see what's outside. Mm-hmm. So, yes, I, I really felt like I needed the right guides, the right guides to help me on this journey. 

[00:13:39] Ike Anderson: Yeah. I think, uh, um, I can relate to a certain extent 'cause my journey, I.

 [00:13:46] Nothing crazy was happening, Kim. I was in a really good place, um, from a career perspective, family. Everything from the outside just felt, seemed okay, but something just [00:14:00] wasn't sitting right with me and like, uh, it felt like something was missing and I couldn't put my finger on what it was. And, you know, I felt like I went into this deep cave and I.

 [00:14:14] I couldn't show up and operate every single day with that strength and power and courage that, that I'm known for and, and, you know, that I've created for myself. And going in that cave, I sold my business, had for two decades, um, sold everything that I had that I thought was what I wanted of value. And, you know, have three younger kids and, and a wife.

 [00:14:40] And I'm like, let's just go travel. And just escape. And I feel like that was crazy, but it's what I felt led to do in that moment. So we packed up and like six, seven months later, we just went traveling. And um, [00:15:00] as we traveled outside of the US we spent like a month in each country and it seemed like everything was going well.

 [00:15:08] And that's when I started feeling that fishbowl experience you're talking about. 

 [00:15:12] Kim Zoller: Wow. 

 [00:15:14] Ike Anderson: And it got really, really, really heavy. And when I got to West Africa, Ghana, um, I don't even know how we chose that country initially, but we got exposed to a lot of things there historically that we weren't even familiar with.

 [00:15:32] And that fish bowl just got even darker and weird. 

 [00:15:37] Yeah. 

 [00:15:37] Ike Anderson: Um, and then we left, and then I went to India. And India was. Like what you're talking about, that retreat. 

 [00:15:45] Kim Zoller: Right. A 

 [00:15:45] Ike Anderson: friend of mine said, Hey, go to this Ayurveda place. You know, they'll, you know, um, holistic medicine and the mindset and all that good stuff.

 [00:15:55] And I'm like, I don't know, man. Um, so I listened and I [00:16:00] went, yeah. And my family came with me. And this place, there's people there that's sick, like physically going through things, 

 [00:16:10] right. 

 [00:16:11] Ike Anderson: But I felt like I, I was in somewhere where I needed to be, and I spent two weeks there just resetting, um, body work, all the, all the things that I, I didn't even know that I needed.

 [00:16:24] And that's when I started to see the light outside of the fishbowl. And start to readjust back to my true self. Amazing. Yeah. So help is really important whenever we find, so what would you say to someone if they're in their fishbowl and I. They feel hopeless or lost? What would you say to that person in that moment that's going through something like that?

 [00:16:52] Kim Zoller: You know what, first of all, I would say to them that where you feel like you're so alone, um, you, you're [00:17:00] not, you're not. And I think that, you know, that's, that's one thing I think that, um. I don't, you know, retrospectively, I think that, um, I think that if we, whatever your higher power is, that the more you connect the, the better it gets and, um.

 [00:17:26] When you're in the fishbowl though, I'm not necessarily sure that you actually can attach to that. So, um, so I'm not, you know, in, again, I can say that today when I was in the fishbowl, I really did believe, I really did believe that this was all happening for a reason. I really did. I re I really believed in, in the universe for me, God, you know, whomever higher power source.

 [00:17:50] Mm-hmm. I really did believe that this was an energy that was happening, and it was not happening to me. Right? As, as Tony says, it was happening for me, it [00:18:00] just didn't feel like it. So what I would say to anyone is I would say, figure out the right people who to go to who will not let you. Um. Who will not let you ruminate in your, in your stuff, because that's really super important.

 [00:18:18] Because what we tend to do is find people who cuddle us and who are like, it's okay. You're this, you're that. But that's really not what did we need? It isn't when you're in the fishbowl, you have to get out of the fishbowl, so you need someone to give you a push. To do that. And that means going to a place like you did in India.

 [00:18:37] It means like me going to onsite, it means like reading that book, that's going to just, all of a sudden you're gonna have, you're gonna wake up and you're gonna be like, oh my gosh, I am a recording. My brain has recorded all this stuff. And now. I'm living it and I think I'm creating something new, but I'm really not.

[00:18:57] So now what do I do with that? And I, you, you [00:19:00] literally need someone who's gonna say, get out of your stuff and this is how to do it. This is where to go, you know, and find those places. And just, I think the biggest thing is, is that you know, that everyone's got their own story and yet it's, this is, um, it's not abnormal.

 [00:19:21] It's not abnormal. And 

 [00:19:23] Ike Anderson: it's a part of the human journey, huh? 

 [00:19:25] Kim Zoller: Yeah. I, and you know what? I don't know, Ike, if everyone goes through this, I don't know, and to a degree mm-hmm. I think they go through degrees of it. 

 [00:19:35] Mm. That, 

 [00:19:37] Kim Zoller: you know, there are people who can, who can, who it's, um, they touch on it, but they stay out of it.

 [00:19:44] Or some people are just. Some people are just in an acute state of it their whole lives, and they don't know. So there's no fishbowl. 'cause they're just in this, uh, they're in the haze. They're just in a haze and, you know, things happen. And so they might [00:20:00] go like this in the haze. Like, I have friends like that, you know, like they get upset at things, but then they, and then they're just rocking along.

 [00:20:07] Nothing is ever. There's, there's, they never have no anxiety because there's always just a teeny bit. So it's like hazy. 

 [00:20:16] Mm. 

 [00:20:16] Kim Zoller: So I think that that's a different level. Yeah. I think that there are people like you and me, um, who are I? Probably a little more intense and a little more, which is why we're in the group that we're in.

 [00:20:30] 'cause we're a little more intense. And um, and when we feel things, we feel them big. 

 [00:20:36] Mm-hmm. 

 [00:20:37] Kim Zoller: And it's, you know, and so finding that space to not feel them so largely is a very. It's very important actually. It's very important to our lives and to our families. And you know, for you with younger children, it's um, it's what you can teach them today.

 [00:20:53] For me, with older children, it is what I, what I did that I can rectify, [00:21:00] that I can break patterns and I can break trauma patterns through work that I do, through energy that I do so that my children don't recreate it with. They with themselves and their children. And I talk about it a lot to the point of my, with my kids at, at, you know, at nausea, to the point where they're like, you gotta stop.

[00:21:21] But it's true. 

[00:21:23] Ike Anderson: Yeah. So my kids, they hear the word healing. 

[00:21:27] Yeah, 

[00:21:27] Ike Anderson: accountability. Like they're just like, ah, yeah.

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[00:23:07] Kim Zoller: Yeah. How old are your kids? Like?

[00:23:11] Ike Anderson: Yeah, so my eldest, she's 18. 

 [00:23:13] Kim Zoller: Okay. 

 [00:23:14] Ike Anderson: Uh, the middle one is 16 and a 13-year-old son. 

[00:23:17] Kim Zoller: Okay. So they're, you know, they're, they're, they're, uh, they're, they're in that mode really of, um, they've, they've, they've almost, they're still obviously in that record mode, but they, um, not quite, not quite as much, but still so much of it, you know?

 [00:23:33] Yeah. And I think that, I think that, uh, it's so. You know, I, I think it's so important that the sooner we figure this out, the sooner we can actually recreate, um, new patterns of living. And I, it took me a long time. So this, you know, all of this sort of happened when I was, um, about 49, 50 years old before my 50th birthday.

 [00:23:55] But, um. And then, and, and, you know, and [00:24:00] subsequently, um, I've been able to do so much work and I, I did a TED talk that was really a lot on this. And the fact, and the, and the TED talk is, it's very interesting what happened. Just talk about like, you know, such a, for me, source, like a thing. I did the TED Talk.

[00:24:18] It was the most cathartic thing I've ever done. It was cathartic for my children. It showed them why I had made decisions. 'cause it was like all of a sudden everything became so clear to me. While I was doing it, I worked with a guy who's his, his title is Story Doula. So he literally pulls the story out of you and he works with, um.

[00:24:39] Personal stories like this as well as like top executives on their on, on presentations. But working with him was incredibly, it was just all amazing and cathartic for me. And then I did the TED Talk and then Ted took it down because I mentioned, um, I mentioned my real father [00:25:00] and they said to me that, um, they would not.

[00:25:05] Uh, they, they couldn't keep it up there unless I had a waiver signed that they were not going, they were not ever gonna get sued. 

[00:25:13] Mm. 

[00:25:14] Kim Zoller: I wanna tell you, it was like, I'll share it with whoever wants to see it, but I will tell you it was the best thing that ever happened that it's down because truly it's sort of like.

[00:25:25] It is my story and it's, it's like I was able to take the story and put it on the shelf and it's there. Mm-hmm. And I'm glad that it's not out there for everyone. Mm-hmm. 

[00:25:35] Ike Anderson: And you were able to get it out of you as well? 

[00:25:38] Kim Zoller: A hundred percent. Which also did, I think, really, really break some trauma patterns in my family lineage.

[00:25:46] Ike Anderson: Mm. Amazing Kim. 

[00:25:49] Kim Zoller: Yeah, 

[00:25:50] Ike Anderson: that, that definitely takes a lot of bravery and to. Stand on the stage and deliver that. That's very brave. 

[00:25:59] Kim Zoller: It [00:26:00] was good. Yeah. Yeah. Thank you. Thank you. 

[00:26:03] Ike Anderson: So what would you say in retrospect, like now you're out of the fishbowl, or let's call it the full-time fishbowl, and you're, you're where you are right now.

[00:26:14] What would you say is one thing you've learned about yourself? 

[00:26:19] Kim Zoller: I am really just pure. Energy and love. That is what I know about myself and that's all I want to give to other people, truly. And I've learned that the work is every day, every day, and it's a, it's such a reminder every single day and I've learned that I need it.

[00:26:43] I love it, and it's how I. It's how I love my life is the work. And um, and we are, um, we are so not. A reality. Do you know what I [00:27:00] mean? There's so much more in us and around us, and um, and you can look at, you know, if someone's a religious person, they can look at their own no matter what religion they are.

[00:27:12] They can, they can find things if they're not a religious person. If they believe, if they look outside and they see a tree growing and they believe that, you know, that grew from somewhere, um, that's all they have to believe in. There's life, there's things around us. And we get to, we are the creators. We are create, we are creators.

[00:27:29] So every day, I believe, and I've learned this to the nth degree that I get to create my life. 

[00:27:36] Ike Anderson: Awesome. Tell me a little bit, bit about your work. You, you mentioned work, your daily work. 

[00:27:43] Kim Zoller: Yeah, so I love my work. It's, it's definitely an extension. My work has to do with leadership and has to do with its leadership development.

[00:27:51] And it is truly transformational because I really believe that every single person [00:28:00] in, first of all, we're all leaders no matter what our title is. That's the first thing. Um. That we go into our jobs and the majority of people go into a job and they're taught a skill. Mm-hmm. And then they get better at it and better at it, and then they're promoted.

[00:28:15] And then they're supposed to not only know their skill, but then now they're supposed to motivate and drive the business by driving other people and, and, and collaborating and doing all these things and giving feedback. And none of those skills are actually learned, but we're expected to know that.

[00:28:32] 'cause you have a title now. And, um, and I think that most people, like a lot of people are living in that survival, you know, mode of like, let's go to work, let's do our thing, um, and, and let me be good at my job. And I'm proving myself and I'm, or I'm climbing a ladder, but I've, and I've got so much work. So that's where they're living.

[00:28:52] I, I deal with them every day and I, my whole work is focused on giving them the skills so that they [00:29:00] can. They can lead better and they can impact their own lives and they impact everyone around us. I think one of the things that people, that, that, um, people don't realize is that we're working, we're put in a situation, we're working with people we don't necessarily know and sometimes we don't necessarily, um, jive with.

[00:29:19] Mm-hmm. And that person, especially if I'm their boss, that person goes home and basically treats and does things. Around them that, um, that I have, that I have put on them that day. So if I'm a good leader and they go home and they're happy and fulfilled, then they will create that generally in their home lives.

[00:29:44] And if they go home and they feel like they've just been mistreated all day, then they're not going to be their best selves at home. Mm-hmm. And so I really believe that people don't, like, we don't realize the impact that we play. On every [00:30:00] single person around us and my goal in our business, so my company is called ID 360, and it is like your identity 360, you know?

[00:30:10] Mm-hmm. All of inside and out. And we have the ability to give people these skills to. Still, they'll still make the money. They'll make the money and they'll be happier and they'll, they'll be nicer and they'll, and they'll live in joy. And they will, they'll treat people better and then they will be able to then take that to their homes and treat their families better.

[00:30:35] And, um, I feel like, again, it's like a cycle and a lot of it has to do with being able to build the skills. To, uh, to do that, that, that are not, that are not inherent. 

[00:30:46] Ike Anderson: Yeah, definitely. How long have you been doing that work, Kim? 

[00:30:51] Kim Zoller: 32 years. 

[00:30:52] Ike Anderson: Oh, wow. 

[00:30:53] Kim Zoller: It's amazing. I really am very lucky. We have many clients who are, who have started with us and are still with [00:31:00] us, and we have new things launching actually in the next couple next month.

[00:31:04] And so, so that's exciting and um, yeah. You know, you gotta keep it fresh and going and doing good things, right? 

[00:31:13] Ike Anderson: Yeah, absolutely. Um, do you have a daily ritual, Kim? 

[00:31:18] Kim Zoller: Oh my gosh, for sure. So I literally wake up, my alarm goes off. I immediately, so I, I, I say a prayer. I say something and then I think about three things that have happened.

[00:31:31] And this is all because of like science and studies that have been done. I think of three very, very, very specific things that have happened in the last 24 hours that I'm grateful for. So I have to rack my brain, which gets our brain thinking and going in, in a, in a process of, um, of, of looking for goodness.

[00:31:50] So, and looking for positivity and growth mindset. So I immediately, I'm like, oh yeah, I had a conversation with like, to tomorrow, Ike. I'll be like, I had a [00:32:00] conversation with Ike. That was so great. I'm so grateful for that. And so I do that and then I get out of bed and I meditate. And then after I meditate, I, um, I work out and then, and then I do my, and then I, and then I get to work.

[00:32:17] That's my daily ritual. 

[00:32:19] Ike Anderson: How do you close your day? 

[00:32:22] Kim Zoller: Um. If I'm, if I have time, meaning like I, I'm very, right now I'm very into tracking my sleep. So, um, and so I'm really trying to get, I'm wearing my oral ring to make sure that I'm actually getting sleep because, um, you know, as we, as we grow younger, I want to keep growing younger and, um, and so I, um, and so I want, if I have.

[00:32:47] If I've left time, um, you know, based on my schedule or meetings or dinners or whatever I have, um, I will, I, I will meditate. I will get ready for bed and I will, I have a very special [00:33:00] place in my, wherever I am, I make a place. Wherever I am, I could be in a hotel room. I make a place, and I, um, and I meditate.

[00:33:08] Sometimes it's for 10 minutes, sometimes it'll be for 30 minutes. Mm-hmm. And then, um, and then I, when I go to sleep, I do a few things. Sometimes I listen, I'll listen, sometimes I listen. Um. To my own, I record my own affirmations and I listen to them on repeat. 

[00:33:27] Mm-hmm. 

[00:33:27] Kim Zoller: And one of the things that was Bruce Lipton, one of the things that I learned from him is that, um, as you, you know, as you go to bed, you go into that theta state, so you go down, down, down.

[00:33:38] And as you're going, your subconscious is recording. So I'll listen to myself. Um, and or I listen to someone else. So I'll find something like, there are some people that I really like on YouTube that I listen to. I love Neville Goddard. I listen to a lot of that. Um, I listen to, um, I am sometimes Dr. Joe, you know, some [00:34:00] just different affirmations.

[00:34:02] And then when I wake up, like it'll go off. And then I have a, an app that actually like. Uh, I got, you know, from, um, from, from Tony's world, um, called NewCom. And it's, it's that, it's all about the vi, you know, the vibration and the music and the frequencies. Mm-hmm. So then I just put that on and I like the rain and I, the thing is you're hearing rain, but your subconscious is actually, um, filled with a frequency to help you sleep.

[00:34:30] So. I put that on for the whole night. 

[00:34:33] Ike Anderson: Yeah. That's, that's really amazing. Yeah. I've found where, how I start my day and how I end my day is very important for sure. And that's where I spend a lot of focus and, and intention. Yeah. Um, yeah. What's the best piece of advice you've ever received?

[00:34:56] Kim Zoller: Uh, the best piece of advice, um, gosh, I would [00:35:00] have to say it would probably be from, uh, from one of our guides, and that is Tony and I would say. That, um, that our emotions create the quality of our life, and I think that that's probably the best advice because I want the quality of my life to look very joyous.

[00:35:21] And so, choosing your emotions, being aware of your emotions, being aware, being aware of my emotions is very, very important. In fact. Even more now than ever. I'm trying, I'm, I'm, I'm, this is like an Uber focus for me that if I feel any type of, um, feeling that doesn't feel joy even in or flow, I. Or someone upsets me, I say to myself, you are disconnected from source.

[00:35:53] What's going on? And I just think about energy of source for me. Just think of energy of source and I'm like, I'm [00:36:00] source. I'm energy. That's source. Their message, their source. And I just, um, that, that advice, the advice. That's how it materializes for me. So I take that advice and I say, change the emotion, change the energy, change what I need to change 

[00:36:19] mm-hmm.

[00:36:19] In 

[00:36:19] Kim Zoller: order to lead the quality of life that I am striving for every moment. Mm-hmm. Like we were not intended to come here and be stressed out. We were not, it was not. You know, the, I know for sure there was not the intention for us to live these lives of, of, of shame and guilt. Like that is not, that's a manmade product.

[00:36:41] That is not a God product. So I'm not into it and I'm gonna get rid of it. 

[00:36:49] Ike Anderson: Yeah. Love it. Beautiful. So what would you say to someone if they're in the space of, uh, fear, anxiety, [00:37:00] uh, depression. Um, those negative feelings, so to speak. Like what are one or two things that they can do to somewhat navigate or readjust back to, uh, source, uh, to the.

[00:37:13] The Divine Highway, I'll call it. 

[00:37:17] Kim Zoller: You know what I would say really, truly is that there are some major there. There's work to be done and it's not just gonna happen overnight. And it's a constant reminder. And that's what I would say to them. I would say, get on the journey, brother. You know, or sister.

[00:37:31] That's what I would say. I'd say it's time. So what does that look like? And for me it's little things, you know, I, it's like it's looking at my feet. And saying, I'm here right now. I'm right here, right now. And um, and it's breathing and it's like saying, you know, what am I breathing in? Intention, intention, intention?

[00:37:50] What's my intention and what am I grateful for? Over and over and over again. It's literally like, um, that's what I would [00:38:00] say to someone. I would say, how do you feel? And how do you want to feel? Are you forget about, I'm not telling them they're choosing it. I'm saying if you could choose, do you like what you're feeling?

[00:38:14] Do you feel enough pain to get out of it? If they feel enough pain, then they might do the work. Um, or if they're just growth oriented people, they might start the work and then, um, and then continue it like so many of, of our, of our tribe. Um, but, but for people who are really suffering, I would say, and I'm gonna be, I don't wanna listen, I'm not a therapist, so I'm just gonna say this from my perspective.

[00:38:42] I don't, I really, truly believe that there are medicines that can help you, but I don't believe that they solve the issue. I believe that they are just a little bit of a bandaid in the sense that the minute something happens, you're still gonna feel those feelings and you [00:39:00] have to figure out how to get past that and no medicine.

[00:39:04] Unless you're just drugging yourself to the, the nth degree is gonna take care of it. And so I'm not a big believer in that. And I was on antidepressants for years, and I really, and I, it it, and I realized this is not helping me and it's not helping because it doesn't take away what happened. So I have to get rid of the emotions that go with what happened.

[00:39:27] You know, be 

[00:39:28] beautiful. 

[00:39:28] Kim Zoller: So that's, that's what I would say, and that's so my opinion. So I, I, you know, 

[00:39:33] I don't, 

[00:39:34] Kim Zoller: I don't want anyone who's like, you know, who's like, 

[00:39:37] not 

[00:39:37] Kim Zoller: drugs saved my life, because I'm sure that there are, but you know, I, I can tell you after, especially being involved, so involved in, in Dr. Joe Dispenza and all of his research.

[00:39:49] And what they're finding that, you know, with 66 diseases, including PTSD, including depression, including Alzheimer's, including, [00:40:00] um, um, cancer, that's so, uh, that there is, there, there, there's a lot that is being healed by the mind and about, um, you know, through other, um, through other ways. Um, other than medicine.

[00:40:16] So that's, that's just my belief. 

[00:40:19] Ike Anderson: Perfect. Thank you Kim. Um, what's next for you? 

[00:40:25] Kim Zoller: What's next for me? Oh my gosh. Is there another 

[00:40:27] Ike Anderson: reinvention on the horizon for you? 

[00:40:29] Kim Zoller: Always, every day, every day I get to make a choice of, of who shows up and how to be better and what I wanna look like and, and feel like. And, um, you know, you know what the, the biggest reinvention for me really Ike, is that, um, there is no, there is no thing and no person.

[00:40:51] That is going to, um, that is going to make me my best person. No [00:41:00] thing, no person, no other thing, no nothing outside of me. And so, um, so that's my, that is my focus. Hmm. That I'm focusing very much on having this joy no matter what's happening around me. And, um, and in my life, and especially getting rid of expectations of how things should be, things should have been the people I should have been with, um, the person that I went to my life that why aren't I or why shouldn't I?

[00:41:32] And you know, but really focusing on, um, I know we hear it all the time, God, until, until you get it, you just don't get it. And that is the loving yourself part and truly I believe. That loving ourselves is really knowing that we're just. An extension of, of source. So, you know, that's, that's, that's the reinvention every day while I get to do my work and have a [00:42:00] great business and, and do that, and something purposeful with that, um, you know, and give back as much as I can.

[00:42:06] Ike Anderson: Yeah, that's, that's awesome. So. How do you define abundance? 

[00:42:12] Kim Zoller: Oh my gosh. Abundance. Abundance is looking outside your window and being grateful. It's abundance of what abundance is. Is is such gratitude. Such gratitude for everything. Everything. You know, just being so thankful, not wishing and not wanting for all the things that actually could be fun.

[00:42:34] And they are fun, but they don't really matter. And, um. That's how I define it. And, and by the way, it's not that I'm not, I don't have to remind myself of that every day, especially when I wanna go do et cetera, whatever I wanna do. And that, you know, it costs money and it this, and it's that. And I'm like, wait, I need to make more.

[00:42:56] And, you know, all those things I have to remind myself [00:43:00] that, wait, you're living in, you're living in pure abundance. Look around. 

[00:43:04] Mm. And part of 

[00:43:05] Kim Zoller: that is that for me. For me, I'm healthy and I'm, that is abundant, you know, and this phone call is abundance, or this, or this webinar, whatever we're on anyway, that's how I define it.

[00:43:20] Yeah. 

[00:43:21] Ike Anderson: Yeah. This is awesome. Listen, Kim, um, I'm so happy I press record. Um. You've, uh, clearly done the work and continue to do the work, and I taped my hat off for you. Like, I, I respect growth. I love growth. I am growth. So I admire growth. And I see, and I see your work, uh, just like gleaming. So like, it's awesome.

[00:43:46] Kim Zoller: Thanks. 

[00:43:47] Ike Anderson: I hope you guys really enjoyed this episode with Kim and more than enjoying it, I hope you learned something that is applicable. In your own life because quite frankly, we're here to reinvent, [00:44:00] realign, recreate, and I, I hope her experience and what she shared. Um, has an impact on you and your reinvention and your recreation.

[00:44:09] So thank you for being here. Um, as we continue to unmask, you know, we do this work together, um, you know, we have a community linked in the bio. Uh, go ahead and check it out, see if it aligns with you, and, uh, I'm grateful. Thank you. Peace.