EP: 10 - Unveiling Identity with Peter King: Reconstructing Faith and Self

Join Ike Anderson as he welcomes Peter King, entrepreneur, investor, and podcast host, to The Unmasking Effect. 

In this honest and raw conversation, Peter opens up about his journey of reinvention, from overcoming a challenging divorce and navigating co-parenting to breaking free from familial and societal influences. 

He shares profound insights on healing, transformation, and stepping into one's own truth. 

This episode is a powerful exploration of identity, faith, and the continuous process of self-discovery, offering wisdom for anyone facing their own reinvention in relationships, family, or personal identity.

Transcript

[00:00:00] Ike Anderson: Welcome back to another exciting episode of The Unmasking Effect. Today I'm thrilled to introduce someone who's not only an accomplished entrepreneur, investor, and podcast host, but also a good friend and fellow seeker of growth and wisdom. Our guest today is Peter King, the brilliant mind behind the PK experience and wired for impact.

[00:00:25] Peter is a lifelong learner, someone who's constantly exploring what it means to live a purposeful and impactful life. And I know you're going to love the insight he's sharing on this episode today, but we're going deeper than business and success. Peter opens up about one of the most challenging chapters of his life.

[00:00:46] His recovery from a divorce, we dive into what it took for him to reinvent himself, navigate the complexities of co-parenting, and breaking free from the way the family and [00:01:00] societal influences that so often holds us back. This conversation is honest, raw, and packed with wisdom about healing, transformation, and stepping into your own truth.

[00:01:13] If you've ever faced reinvention. Whether it's relationships, family, or your own identity, this episode is for you. So without further ado, let's get into it. Please join me in welcoming my good friend Peter King, to the unmasking effect.

[00:01:39] I appreciate you being here, man, and it's, it's really good seeing you. 

[00:01:43] Peter King: It's great to see you too, and I'm deeply honored that, um, on the program and I'm excited to reconnect with you as well. 

[00:01:51] Ike Anderson: Yeah, man. Awesome, awesome. So. What have you been up to? 

[00:01:58] Peter King: Oh man. So [00:02:00] I, there's been, I, I know the heart of your podcast is about reinvention and I was thinking about that leading up to this call and there's some pretty significant things that I have, um, shifted recently for me.

[00:02:12] And a lot of that's in the spiritual realm. Um, putting context, a lot's going.

[00:02:20] I motivated me to better understand, um, spiritual conflict and, um, where I'm, uh, who I am, et cetera, within that whole grand scheme of things. Um, so there's a, there's been a reinvention there for me on the spiritual path. Um, and then there's, you know, constant. You know, walking in, walking on the world, walking in the world, and who are you in the world and how are you showing up in the world?

[00:02:48] And for me as a podcaster, that's often meant having to rethink how I'm connecting with my audience and how I'm, um, branding myself. What message am I putting out? Is it in alignment with, [00:03:00] with who I am? Um, and then before. You're constantly reinventing yourself 'cause your kids are constantly changing. Um, my relationship to them as a teen, you know, with, as them as teenagers is very different than my relationship with them when they were younger.

[00:03:19] So, you know, you're constantly having to reinvent yourself as a parent too. So, uh, happy to talk about any one of those. 

[00:03:25] Ike Anderson: Yeah. Like constant reinvention, huh? Yeah.

[00:03:32] In in any of those, even from an earlier time in your life, have you gone through any major reinvention that you felt like was probably the, um, a major, um, I guess my son called it a canon moment, like a moment or a time where you got literally knocked down to rock bottom. And you had to work your way up from 

[00:03:58] Peter King: Yes.

[00:03:59] [00:04:00] Uh, without a doubt. And, and I can't, the, the, the, I mean, the main thing that comes to my mind when I think of that is the divorce that I went through. Um, that was extremely difficult to reinvent myself. And that was, uh, a certainly a low for me. It came on the heels of my mother passing on, which was another.

[00:04:21] Phase of reinvention. Um, who are you without? Um. And so much of our relationships is, uh, through observation of our own parents. And so with my mom passing and knowing some of the struggles that she had, uh, in her marriage with my dad and, and some of the, the love too, of course. But, um, after she passed and my father coming out, uh, as a homosexual, really, um, fundamentally challenged some beliefs I had about.

[00:04:52] Myself, about the world, about relationships, um, and ultimately a lot of that led to an awareness of a [00:05:00] desire to reinvent my own relationship. And, um, through years of trying to make it work, I just, it got to a point where it, it seemed very clear, um, that I needed to step away and that was radically. Uh, opposed to how I self-identified at the time.

 [00:05:19] Ike Anderson: Right. Gotcha. 

[00:05:20] Peter King: Um, which required a reinvention. Uh, as I was thinking about this, this call and what reinvention is, it really is a relationship to how you identify and who are you. And when you reinvent yourself, you're. You're not, it feels like you're starting from scratch, but in a lot of ways it's the exact opposite of that.

 [00:05:39] You're, you're actually taking what you've learned, what you wanna hang onto, what you wanna expand, and then making a conscious decision to cut off that, which you don't wanna be anymore. Right. Um, and so. Um, one of the things that was very, very difficult for me was I had identified with, uh, a man that always saw it through in a [00:06:00] relationship, you know, that was gonna take it all the way to the end.

[00:06:02] And, you know, I, I took those words very seriously when I said, uh, you know, for better or for worse, you know? And, um, what I had to reinvent was, um, is a piece of paper that the government says is a marriage. It was that my marriage. Is a piece of paper that says A divorce, is that my divorce? It, am I, am I the reflection of that piece of paper that the government gives me?

[00:06:31] And to some extent there's an alignment. There can certainly be with an alignment with that, but I felt out of alignment with that the same way that I felt married to my, my now ex. I felt married to her before I was, before I was given a piece of paper that said I was married. 

[00:06:47] Ike Anderson: So, 

[00:06:47] Peter King: so what is marriage?

[00:06:49] Ike Anderson: Mm-hmm.

 [00:06:49] Peter King: So I had to reinvent what marriage actually was to me. And for me, it was not a piece of paper that the government said was or wasn't. 

[00:06:58] Ike Anderson: Mm-hmm. 

[00:06:58] Peter King: Um, I still, and I've [00:07:00] said this to my ex times that, uh, I still feel married to her. On a spiritual level, I still feel, uh, dedicated to her. I still feel committed to her.

[00:07:09] She wouldn't say that perhaps, but, but I, I feel that way. Um, 

[00:07:14] Ike Anderson: and she's still the mother of your kids too, right? 

[00:07:16] Peter King: Hundred percent. She's a hundred, a hundred percent obviously the mother of my children. And, and I have deep commitment and deep, um, re um, what's the word I'm looking for?

[00:07:29] In my journey, I, I had to reinvent who I am as a man, who I'm as a father, who I'm as a husband or a ex-husband in this case. Yeah. Uh, and that was very difficult, but, um, so 

[00:07:39] Ike Anderson: as you were going through those times, uh, I would just assume it was challenging at different times for whatever the reasons are. Yep.

[00:07:46] Um, like. How'd you discover your path, your path through navigating some of those challenges? How'd you do it? 

[00:07:55] Peter King: Uh, it was really, really tough because, uh, in those instances you [00:08:00] feel very small. You feel very lost, you feel very inadequate. You feel very, um. Powerless. Um, and in a way I had to rescue myself.

[00:08:10] And, um, you know, it's easy when you're not in it to say, well, like, oh, get, get counseling or go find somebody or get therapy. But nobody, nobody necessarily knows exactly what you're going through except for you. And, um, so a big part. My faith in relationship to God, uh, that that ultimately was an North star that helped pull me outta of, um, the, if you know, it feels like a washing machine, you dunno what's up and down anymore.

[00:08:41] Um, so you have to have some base level of faith that you're going to head in the direction, um, that's gonna be serving you. And that, that, in fact the, the rock bottom. In a way is serving you and might be the biggest thing that's serving you because it's gonna give you clarity about which direction you need to go next.

[00:08:59] Yeah. [00:09:00] Um, so that faith to me is a fundamental thing that, um, you, you're in a, you're in a position where, um, uh, you're being, uh, you, you're being forced to really get clear on what it is that you, who you wanna be and which direction answered. 

[00:09:20] Ike Anderson: Yeah, definitely. So how was the support system for you during that transition?

[00:09:28] Did you feel like people, you were, you probably would depend on to be there? Were they all there for you? Um, did you feel that level of support? 

[00:09:38] Peter King: Uh, I, I personally did not. Um, I need to take ownership in, in. How I operate in the world. Uh, I think a part of the lack of, for me, it lack, it felt like there's a lack of a support network.

[00:09:52] Um, and I'm sure in some ways I helped propagate that. 

[00:09:56] Ike Anderson: Mm-hmm. 

[00:09:56] Peter King: So, um, I wanna take ownership of that. [00:10:00] However, I will say that, uh, as a man, as a father, uh, especially as. Made the decision to leave the relationship. There wasn't a lot of empathy or sympathy. Um, and uh, and I had to go many, many months being the single caretaker of my children at a time when I was doing, you know, three jobs and it was just a lot on the table and there wasn't, I.

[00:10:22] There wasn't really any aid. Um, you know, as I mentioned, my mother passed on. She would've been a perfect person, help step in and help take care of kids and all that. 

[00:10:29] Ike Anderson: Mm-hmm. 

[00:10:29] Peter King: Um, so with her not there, uh, and then a lot of my own family not fully understanding what I was going through. Um, and then, you know, one of the hardest parts was when you go through divorce, you're not just divorcing that person in a lot of ways, you're divorcing many other people in addition to their family, but also their, their friends or.

[00:10:51] A lot of that was transition. I, I, I'm grateful to report that a lot of those relationships have been repaired, if not, um, enhanced. And, uh, [00:11:00] but in the moment it's very, very difficult. Very 

[00:11:02] Ike Anderson: difficult. 

[00:11:02] Peter King: So, yeah, I didn't have a lot of guidance. In fact, um, you and I met, uh, during a, a period of time when we were going through some.

[00:11:10] Personal development stuff with Tony Robbins and whatnot. And so a lot of it was personal development stuff. Um, books that I read, podcasts, um, uh, certainly some, uh, religious texts, et cetera. But that's 

[00:11:25] Ike Anderson: right. Yeah. So from your current awareness, looking back, um. What's one thing you've learned about yourself to the core that in retrospect, looking back and you've gone through those experiences and, and the challenges and the growth, and even hearing you take accountability for how you've showed up in people's lives and, and going through the process of healing.

[00:11:52] Mm-hmm. What's one thing you've learned about yourself, um, in that process? 

[00:11:57] Peter King: Um. [00:12:00] Something that I've learned about myself. A a lot of it came down to, um, not just having faith in God, but also having faith in yourself. Um, as I mentioned before, nobody knows your experience better than you do, than you do. And while it, it certainly is, um, important to get counsel and, uh, feedback 'cause there's, people can see things in you that you can't see.

[00:12:25] At the end of the day, you've gotta make a decision. That you feel is in your heart the best for you. And you know, when I went through that process, I had people in my family tell me not to do it. I had people very close to me who I deeply respected and looked up to tell me not to do it. Uh, I had, uh, people in my faith tell me not to do it 

[00:12:48] And, uh, on top of all that, I had literally Mr. Tony Robbins me not to do.

[00:12:59] You [00:13:00] know, at the end of the day, I, I actually, there was a poignant moment when we were there, uh, out in Maui at one of Tony Robbins's events when a lot of this was coming to a cru for me. And I went out at three in the morning, as we often do after Tony Rob's events. 'cause he goes fricking forever. But, uh, I went out and walked on the beach and I just looked up at the sky and I was praying and I was like, um, I was feeling a lot of pressure from my support network and from all these people to, to figure something out.

[00:13:29] And I just got to that point where I, I just realized, um, they haven't walked in my shoes. They don't know what I've been through. They're not seeing what happens. Um, the conflict and the, and the stress and the, and the sadness and everything behind closed doors, um, mm-hmm. And, uh, my children and the impact it's making on my children and intimate moments when you're trying to love them and counsel them, that stuff.

[00:13:52] And so while, while I feel like I was getting really clear direction from God for some time. I put faith myself, say, look, you, [00:14:00] you know what you need to do here. 

[00:14:02] Ike Anderson: Mm-hmm. 

[00:14:02] Peter King: Other, other, are you gonna live for those people? At the end of the day, you gotta look at yourself in the mirror. And so I, to me that was a big thing that I learned about myself, was to have faith in yourself 

[00:14:16] Ike Anderson: and having the courage to follow through on the faith and taking the right actions based on, on, on what's currently in front of you.

[00:14:24] Like that's.

[00:14:30] Peter King: Some people don't do.

[00:14:35] As I mentioned, my father is gay and you know, my mother was in a relationship with him and I could tell that there was, you know, some relationship issues there before she passed. But it wasn't until after she passed on and my father came out that I realized, oh, there was some fundamental, 

 [00:14:48] Ike Anderson: um, 

[00:14:49] Peter King: misalignments there.

[00:14:50] And, um, part of me was like, man, I wish we could go back and, and I could just love her and encourage her that, Hey, divorce is okay. We're okay. Still be a [00:15:00] family.

[00:15:03] You know, I had, I had to honor the nobility of her sticking to her spiritual principles. Yeah. Um, to the end. And, uh, I do honor that deeply. Do you feel like, 

[00:15:15] Ike Anderson: if, if you don't mind, like in that situation, what do you feel like impacted you the most? Divorce or, well, not divorce. Was, was it, was it from your mom and your dad's perspective?

[00:15:28] It was the fact that he came out or you didn't know, or that your mom went through this process and you weren't aware of what was going on with her? 

[00:15:40] Peter King: I mean, all, all of those, those are okay. All, every single one of those was a significant, um, uh, you know, uh. Awareness revelation in my mind. Uh, yeah. And, and all added to the reinvention because, um, when I got to that pivot point, there was a part of me, this is now after my mom passed, [00:16:00] there's a part of me that actually, part of what gave me the courage to take the step out was, um, thinking about my mom and thinking about.

[00:16:09] Um, me as a child to her, you know? Mm-hmm. And knowing that as, as a child, that I would be okay if she needed to do what was best for her, if she felt significantly that this was not serving her. Um, and, um, you know, we, we forget sometimes as parents that it's not just the relationship that we have relationship with our children's, between the mom and the dad and the children, but it's also the relationship that the children have with the relationship.

[00:16:37] Bridge between. And if that bridge is, is unstable, um, then the children are getting, they're creating a relationship to something that is, is not great. Um, not that a divorce is better or, or it's, it seemed for me, I had to make that decision that it seemed to be [00:17:00] a step forward. Um, and that we could, I could let them know that, hey, this isn't a good bridge.

[00:17:09] Um. It's not, that, didn't realize I didn't want the relationship to be something that they would've emulate. And the only way that I, 

 [00:17:19] Ike Anderson: this isn't. 

 [00:17:22] Peter King: I, I encouraged them growing up that, Hey, let's look for healthy relationships. Um, sadly, I can't be that person for you, uh, in the moment. Um, but, uh, yeah, yeah, all the things you mentioned about my, my dad coming out and my mom passing and, uh, my own divorce, et cetera, were all significant factors in the reinvention process for me.

[00:17:48] Ike Anderson: Yeah, those are, when you come put it all together, it gets compounded to be, it looks like a mountain, right? Looks really hard to get over, um, or to get out of while you're in the midst of it. [00:18:00] Yeah. Where do you think you are right now in, in your own journey and your own awareness currently? Um, looking back, 

[00:18:09] Peter King: I'm going through a reinvention process right now myself.

[00:18:12] Uh, on a spiritual level, there's a couple of things that I've had to challenge fundamentally about my relationship to God, my relationship to.

[00:18:23] That had been tough to navigate. Uh, I've grown up Christian, I've always been in, um, the Christian faith. Um, however, I didn't really realize that I could have a direct relationship with Jesus and so that. Challenged me to, to reinvent my relationship, um, with God. And I had a couple of supernatural experiences that really brought that home for me and really inspired me and motivated me to make some fundamental changes about how I thought about these things.

[00:18:54] Um, so that's, I, I, I'm in the reinvention process right now of that. 

[00:19:00] Ike Anderson: So this reinvention process that you're going through.

[00:19:08] What is it knocking down? What is it dissolving that needs to get dissolved with your relationship with God? 

[00:19:16] Peter King: Um, it's knocking down the noise. It's knocking down what it isn't, what he isn't. Um, it's, it's helping me to focus purely on that relationship and not on, uh.

[00:19:36] May have positive benefit to some degree, but that isn't the fundamental truth.

 [00:19:44] That to me is what's being dissolved right now is sort of the, the peripheral noise. Um, even the stuff that is seemingly positive, like I was saying, I I, I've gone through so many different experiences, um, personal development wise, or I, I've [00:20:00] shared often on my podcast some of those experiences that I had in the Joe Dispenza community and some of the metaphysical experiences that I had with that.

[00:20:09] Um, but this to me is so bedrock, and like I said, I had a couple supernatural experiences that really, um, uh, emphasized the, the clarity of this path for me personally. 

[00:20:21] Ike Anderson: Mm-hmm. 

[00:20:22] Peter King: Um, so it's dissolved away the, the noise. 

[00:20:26] Ike Anderson: Yep. Tell me a little bit more about your, uh, supernatural experience, if, if you would. 

[00:20:31] Peter King: Yeah.

[00:20:31] Well, you know, this is interesting because it actually stemmed from a podcast episode that I did. Um, as I was, as I've been watching what's unfolding in the world, I, I couldn't help but notice that some of this stuff was in the book revelation. And, uh, and I'm like, you read the book Revelation and it's.

[00:20:50] You know, it's gotta be metaphorical. There's so many like beasts and dragons and all this weird, you know, I'm like that that can't be actually what we're dealing with [00:21:00] right now. I'm not sure that this is, but, but I'm, there's other things in the book where it talks about. You know, like the Euphrates River drying up or, um, that there's gonna be signs in the stars in the heavens above.

[00:21:13] And there's some pretty significant things that have happened that seem to be, in my opinion, um, undeniably God speaking to us. And, um, uh, specifically I'm talking about the eclipses that have happened over America. Um, some of.

[00:21:34] Let me, let me understand this book of Revelation. I'm a Christian, let me, lemme better understand what the word is saying. And as I was going through that process, I had, uh, I invited somebody on my podcast who was an atheist, turned, uh, believer turned, you know, he, and so he shared this story with me about 

[00:21:51] Ike Anderson: mm-hmm.

[00:21:51] Peter King: How he went from atheism to finding Jesus. And in the podcast episode that I talk about this moment where, um. [00:22:00] Uh, an inner conflict, a demonic spirit, if you will, and found Jesus, and it was a pretty intense moment as he shared it on the. About a month after I published that episode, somebody reached out to me on Facebook, which doesn't happen too often.

[00:22:16] It happens, but not, not all the time. But this person said, Hey, um, I'm in my own journey right now. Spiritually, you seem like you're, uh, on the journey as well, but you seem a little bit further along than me, um, in the path that I am seeking. Can I ask you a few questions? I said Sure. So he started asking me about what I believed, why I believed it, et cetera.

[00:22:37] And, and at one point he said. Who is Jesus to you? And I'm, I literally was sitting in my kitchen, uh, at the kitchen table and I, it was the first time that I really thought about it, like deeply. I always thought of Jesus historically, biblically, uh, as a model, as, uh, you know, somebody who rose from the dead, who resurrected and, and taught us and [00:23:00] gave us an example of how to live right the time I really deeply thought.

[00:23:05] How, how would I actually say what that is? So I, as I'm sitting there at the table, I start to type out, I believe Jesus is God incarnate and. I finished that sentence, A bolt of electricity shot through from, from above and like, and I'm not talking about like, oh, I got chills. I'm talking about, it literally felt like an electrical through my entire nervous system, the exact second that that happened.

[00:23:36] My dog, who was in. Started barking like crazy. 

[00:23:40] Ike Anderson: Mm. 

[00:23:42] Peter King: And I was like, and I like started to stand up to, 'cause part of my thought was like, is she okay? What's going on? Is there somebody at the door? Like she doesn't bark hardly ever. 

[00:23:50] Ike Anderson: Mm. 

[00:23:50] Peter King: So I was like, is somebody trying to come in or whatever? And all of a sudden I look up and she now had come around the corner and she's looking right at me, barking right at me.

[00:23:58] Ike Anderson: Mm. 

[00:23:58] Peter King: And I couldn't, I [00:24:00] couldn't even stand up very well 'cause I was so disoriented from, from the energy. 

 [00:24:04] Ike Anderson: Yeah. 

[00:24:04] Peter King: And so I was like. Did you feel that? So anyway, I reached back out to the, the guest that I had on my podcast episode and he said, dude, it sounds like you experienced exactly what happened to me when you probably came into an agreement with the Divine about who Jesus is, and that caused a.

[00:24:23] A darker spirit to have to flee from you contractually. And so anyway, I, I know that might sound weird for people who haven't experienced that before. It certainly would've sounded weird to me maybe five, 10 years ago. Um, but I can't deny that I had that experience. And so that's really deepened my desire to better understand the word, better, understand Jesus, and better understand, um, the Bible.

[00:24:45] Ike Anderson: Mm-hmm. Through Spiritual re or is it spiritual reinvention or religious reinvention? What would you say? 

[00:24:55] Peter King: I mean, those words are very highly charged words. They mean different things for [00:25:00] people. Yeah. Um. I used to say I'm spiritual, but I'm not religious. Meaning I wanted to distance myself from the dogma of the religious organizations.

[00:25:10] Um, on the other hand, um, spirituality doesn't necessarily have a compass. There's no like direction. It, it tends to just be, um, I, I, I'm a good person. I want to feel good. I wanna help people. I wanna, I, I believe that we are spiritual, et but there's no,

[00:25:28] I would say. As the Bible tells us, Jesus is the way, the truth and the life, uh, that gives me direction, that gives me clarity. Uh, it's a direct relationship with him. But I do recognize the dogma of religious organizations that I'm leery of. Um, sometimes they're well intentioned, but I do think that there are some, you know, distractions in there.

[00:25:50] Ike Anderson: So with that experience, how will that help you to. Redirect your [00:26:00] next steps or what, what, what from that is applicable in your life from your perspective? 

[00:26:06] Peter King: A big part of it, um, is, is the doc. You know, there's Christian doctrine, which is to repent. Um, again, a very highly charged word, A word that I have resisted in the past that I've heard before, that I've been like, dude, don't, uh, you know.

[00:26:23] I know I'm not perfect, but I'm doing the best I can. I feel like my heart, I think God knows my heart, um, and God does know your heart, but, but repenting, uh, I, I looked into it. Once I started to have these experiences, I'm like, okay, but do I really understand what that means? Do I really know what that means 

[00:26:38] Uh, when I looked into it deeper, it's really not that difficult, and especially if you're a parent, you get it because to me, it's the parent child relationship. If, if you saw your child, you know. Cheat on a test. If you were somehow had observation to do that, and you went to the trial and you said, Hey, [00:27:00] you know, I need to talk to you.

[00:27:01] And all of a sudden they just started crying. I'm sorry, I'm sorry, I'm sorry. And you're like, well, for what, what, what are you sorry for? I, I, I don't know all of it. Like, I, I get that your heart's wanting to be sorry, but if you don't know what you're actually. Distancing yourself from the, the, the wrong behavior, then you haven't really identified where you need to grow.

[00:27:20] So to me, repenting is just, it's just the acknowledgement of like, oh, you know what? I, I missed the mark on that one. Uh, I, I lied about that. Uh, I, you know, uh, uh, I have, uh, I challenged, uh, you know, challenged with certain addictions. I freaking, you know, looking at this.

[00:27:42] You know, what's coming to me right now to share is of all the vices that I personally have struggled with, I haven't had issues with gambling, drugs, alcohol, but, but the one that has, uh, you know, given me some, a run for my money is in the sexual realm and fornication [00:28:00] and lust. Um, those are things that have, have had its grip on me at times.

[00:28:04] Um, so terms with.

[00:28:10] I don't feel that I have authority here. Uh, I could not drink for the rest of my life and be fine. I'll have a drink here and there. Uh, I enjoy it. Whatever. I don't need another drink in my entire life. Um, drugs are not an issue for me when it comes to, you know, heterosexual sex. I am, yeah. I love women and I love intimacy and I, and so I've had to.

[00:28:32] Get really honest with myself, uh, especially in, in with respect to God, and start to parse out like what's healthy relating and what isn't, uh, and what, what is leading me more towards the flesh versus more towards the spirit. And, um, that's, I've made some significant reinventions, uh, um, you know. Cancel that.

[00:28:59] [00:29:00] Yeah, cancel that. A lot of stuff that I know was not heading in the direction of the spirit. 

[00:29:03] Ike Anderson: Yeah. 

[00:29:04] Peter King: Um, and now I'm sort of fine tuning, like, well, God obviously made us, uh, attracted to each other. Part of that attraction is that physical intimacy and it's a beautiful thing. What, where is the line between lust and, um, just a natural desire to be intimate?

[00:29:28] I share that because I, I, I think the repentance is a big one. And then the other big one is forgiveness and, um, going through and, um, finding out who we need to forgive. Um, the people that betrayed you, the people that wronged you, just, you know, victimized you for whatever, um, the people who ghosted you for no.

[00:29:53] I think why this are so fundamentally important in the Christian doctrine is [00:30:00] because why should God forgive you of your sins if you're not willing to forgive other people of where they've been wronged, where, where you've been wronged by them. Um, so I think those are principle, you know, I think those are principles in rising up into a higher level of experience and expression.

[00:30:18] Ike Anderson: Got it. Understood. What do you think is the best piece of advice you've ever received? 

[00:30:26] Peter King: Uh, a couple comes to mind. Um, my grandfather told me before I get married, he said, look, there's three rules to marriage. He said, uh, number one, if it's not gonna matter in six months, then it doesn't matter. He said, don't ever go to bed angry.

[00:30:43] Resolve your issues, even if it's, Hey, we're gonna, you know, keep talking about this, but I love you. Uh, and then he said number three, he said, and this is the most important one, he said, uh, privacy in the bathroom. 

[00:30:55] That's, that's always stuck with me. It's kind of a silly thing, but, um, there, there's, [00:31:00] there's some truth to that.

[00:31:01] There's some truth to that. Um, 

[00:31:04] Ike Anderson: Um, what advice would you give someone that is currently in the middle of their own reinvention, their own transformation? And considering that being in the middle sometimes, probably the heaviest times. 

[00:31:18] Peter King: Yeah. I, well, I do think it's possible to, or important to note that sometimes reinvention is just simply because you're done with, with a season

[00:31:27] Peter King: Um, like with my podcast, I've gone through now two different brands and I'm kind of feeling like I'm at a, a place to. To take it to the next level or to reinvent and rethink sort of what I'm doing. So sometimes it's not being in the total darkness. So I think the quality of the reinventing for that is different a little bit than somebody who's in, uh, in the darkness.

[00:31:48] Part of breakdown desire for reinvention, uh, with respect to that piece, a big.

[00:32:03] Sorry. Reinvention has a relationship to identity, so when you're reinventing yourself, you're re-identifying with yourself. When you re-identify with yourself, you're really deciding who I am and who I'm not. You're, it's a recognition of what's brought me to this point is no longer serving me. What needs to change and what needs to, and part of what might need to change is not just.

[00:32:29] Stopping doing something. What might need to change is for you to focus on something that you haven't focused on and bring attention to a gift that you've, um, neglected or a relationship that you've neglected. Um, a lot of times the reinvention is, is not changing what you aren't, but doubling down on who you actually are.

[00:32:50] So to me, getting clarity of that boundary. Of who you are and who you're not is critical. And then when you're talking about reinvention, it's like, okay, well now where are we going? What's your [00:33:00] vision? What's your target? And then finally, it's what's your fuel? What's your purpose? What's going to get you through the next mountain up, that next mountain to that next target?

[00:33:11] Um, those things to me are critical when it comes to reinvention. 

[00:33:15] Ike Anderson: Hold on one second. I guess the landscapers are making. Yeah. Um, yeah, definitely. Um, that, that, that, that reminds me, um, like one of the most important thing for me is to always be clear on my state of being. Mm-hmm. Like, who am I being? Mm-hmm.

[00:33:36] And that's partially the, the values I have with my identity that I've created. Um, and, and being it. It's even supernatural in the sense of what you're also guided and destined to do, like your purpose all tied into one. So, um, yeah, I, I hear what you're saying, [00:34:00] but I also see people too and, you know, I've been there myself where you're in the middle of this, um, situation moment time.

[00:34:10] Um, and it's kind of hard because it gets lonely. And it, it, it gets scary. Um, and you can either stay there or get out of it. Right? 

[00:34:22] Peter King: A hundred percent.  

[00:34:23] Ike Anderson: So, so as you've done your own evolution and your own journey, is there one or two things from a tools perspective or an action perspective that you think, um, has helped you and could possibly help others?

[00:34:39] Peter King: I will say this, uh, and this is specifically from a masculine perspective to men. Uh, men I think experience breakdown and reinvention very differently than women. We all face that, but, um, women have a built-in network often of support that 

[00:34:56] Ike Anderson: mm-hmm.

[00:34:56] Peter King: That tends to show up. Men typically reinvent [00:35:00] themselves in isolation.

[00:35:02] And, um, when you find yourself in that position as a man. Wanna call

[00:35:11] some.

[00:35:17] It sucks. You wanna get out of it, but there's a reframe that you can, you know what I'm talking about? 

[00:35:25] Ike Anderson: Absolutely. Uh, 

[00:35:26] Peter King: it, it, it's feels desperate. It feels like there's gonna, there's no hope that this is never gonna end. Uh, that it's all for not, and that you might wanna end it all. Seriously. I mean, I, uh, and so one of the things that I like to remind men is.

[00:35:43] In the precise moment as a man where you are being forged, you cannot forge metal without heat. You have to have the heat. The heat is what does two things. It burns off impurities and it, [00:36:00] it makes the metal forg, right? So, so to relish, to reframe that whole point in, in isolation. I always think of like the, the, the, the young lion that gets kicked outta the pride and the ribs are showing and he is got the scraggly mane and he's out and he doesn't know how to hunt and he's all alone.

[00:36:22] It's like, now is, now is your fucking time to step up as a man and find out who you actually are. So that to me is a, is a mindset tool. This relationship to the isolation, you're, if you're in it right now, dude, this is the time of massive change for you. Massive transformation, and you cannot get it when things are comfortable.

[00:36:46] You have to be in the heat of the isolation and the transformation in order for you to get clear about who you really are and where you're really going. 

[00:36:57] Ike Anderson: Yeah. Uh, so what if [00:37:00] there's a sense of clarity about what they don't want? And what they do want. But as you know, from the deep, dark night of the soul, it's the feet becomes really heavy.

[00:37:12] Yeah. And you can't even lift it to move. 

[00:37:15] Peter King: Yeah. 

[00:37:15] Ike Anderson: What would you say to that, 

[00:37:17] Peter King: to to, to men that are in that position? This is why Men Brotherhood is so critical. Mm-hmm. Um, if you don't have it. You always have relationship to God, but if you can get relationships with other men, uh, it is the most critical piece to a man's transformation.

[00:37:37] 'cause men know how to relate to other men when to, uh, kick him in the ass, when to leave him in isolation. When to, um, be, you know, put his put, you know, give him a hug, when to put your arm around him, when to remind him who he's, and, and, you know, encourage him to continue on the path that he's on, et cetera.

[00:37:58] Having other men 

[00:38:00] is critical. Um, we, we need to reforge that, uh, relationship. It's starting to happen. I've seen the tipping point. Men are starting to.

[00:38:13] Um, it's very difficult. It's not impossible, but it's very difficult, um, to find a woman who can see a man in that position and have her be able to speak life into him without judgment, without her own fear, her own securities getting in the way. Uh, it's a beautiful thing when it happens and if it does happen, like hang onto that woman.

[00:38:32] Um, but, uh, typically men. Surrounding with other men who are been through that and know what to do. That, that's why we need elders. That's why we need the wisdom of, of men. 

[00:38:44] Ike Anderson: Yeah. And that's been a part of my life's journey, is to seek out elders from what I would call ancient wisdom. Mm-hmm. Like the loss wisdom.

[00:38:54] Mm-hmm. Um, that we've gotten. Distracted and I have [00:39:00] no connection with and, and reforging that relationship like that, that's super important. Um, and then probably one of the tools in my journey that's helped me a lot. Um, so I appreciate you sharing and not a lot of people even understand the deep, dark night of the soul or have gone through it.

[00:39:19] So, um. Yeah. It, it gets lonely. So, and, and heavy and hard. So, yes. Um, I think having the tools and the support, and I, I definitely agree, when men are together, um, working through some of these things, um, it takes on a different dynamic. There's a different relationship there. So 

[00:39:42] Peter King: one of the, one of the biggest acts of courage, uh, is to be in that moment and, and reach out.

[00:39:48] Um, it's hard. It's hard because you, you almost have a relationship to isolation. Um, you don't wanna burden other people with your heaviness. Mm-hmm. You don't wanna, um, [00:40:00] uh, bring other people down. You don't really know if they're gonna see you, you know, so you, you try to reach out. And then they don't really fully understand or appreciate, or they give you some bullshit about, you know, just be yourself or whatever.

[00:40:12] And it's like, you're not, you're not, you're not getting where I'm mask. So it's, it seems a little self-defeating and it's like, I'm not gonna reach out. Um, so a big act of courage is, is reaching out. And to your point, actually, I really love what you just said about. Ancient wisdom, you know, because you can always have a relationship first, foremost with God.

[00:40:31] But you can also have a relationship to, you know, wise from the past. And a lot of people read, you know, or some of these other brilliant thinkers, you can, I met someone not too long ago that had a, um, what did he call it? His, his advisory council or something like that, and it was all dead guys. I was like, well, how do you, how do you seek with their wisdom?

 [00:40:51] It's like, well, it's in their words, it's in their books. Mm-hmm. Um, it's, it's in your imagination. What would they do in this situation? What would they tell me? Mm-hmm. And you start to realize, oh, you can have a [00:41:00] relationship with that. So, 

[00:41:01] Ike Anderson: of course. Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Um, and think Napoleon Hill spoke a lot about that.

[00:41:07] Mm-hmm. About his council and That's right. Advisors as well. Yes. Yeah. Yep. Um, and another element to this that was taught by an elder in the middle of a bush somewhere is that connection to your higher self. Mm-hmm. And this version of yourself that's 92 years old, that's been through this journey that has the awareness that's been through, um, all the education that knows you more than anybody else does, and for you to build that relationship and connection and, um.

[00:41:39] Get guidance. Mm-hmm. And you'd be shocked from this alternate reality, just so much wisdom that flows through. 'cause that's you applied and integrated everything that you've done up until that point. Like, that's powerful. Yeah. 

[00:41:56] Peter King: Yeah. Extremely powerful. Yeah. I love that. It seems, it sounds [00:42:00] hokey. Uh. When you're younger, um, but then you go through the dark night of the soul and, and you realize you're struggling sometimes and you're, you're reaching, you know, for anything.

[00:42:10] And then you connect to that and you find that there is wisdom in that and it really does, uh, move the needle. So, 

[00:42:16] Ike Anderson: yeah. Yeah. Yep, for sure. Um,

[00:42:23] damn Peter, you've been, uh, you've been working man, you've been, been doing the work. Trying. Yep. Yeah. What an inspiring and thought provoking conversation with Peter. His journey of reinventing himself after a divorce, navigating co-parenting and breaking free from societal and outside expectations is a powerful reminder that we all have the strength to rise and create a life aligned with our truth.

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