A Marine-Turned-Soldier Explains How The Legion Restored His Mission

What happens when the mission that shaped your life goes quiet? At the American Legion Midwinter Conference in Mississippi, we sit down with Jacob Harrison—a veteran of both the Marine Corps and the Army with 26 years of active service—to unpack the jarring shift from combat arms to civilian keyboards, and how he rebuilt purpose through the Legion and the American Legion Riders.

Jacob takes us from Iraq and Afghanistan to the first awkward months after retirement, where the absence of daily stakes and tight-knit teams hit hardest. He explains the difference between missing routine and missing brotherhood, why “organized chaos” can be hard to let go of, and how showing up at a post rekindled the best parts of service: camaraderie, structure, and a mission bigger than one person. We also explore the Auxiliary’s role in supporting families; Jacob’s wife found peers who understood the whiplash of transition and shared practical tools for navigating life after the uniform.

We go inside the Riders—born in the 1990s and built to connect motorcycle culture with outreach, fundraising, and visible advocacy. It’s a powerful on-ramp for younger veterans and a direct answer to the question, “What does the Legion do for me?” Jacob lays out the impact: legislative advocacy for veterans’ benefits, scholarships, community events, mentorship, and spaces where veterans can speak freely without explaining every acronym. Along the way, he shares first-time conference insights, from meeting the national commander to seeing how local posts plug into a larger engine for change.

If you’ve wondered whether the American Legion is for you—or how to bring the next generation into meaningful service—this conversation offers clear answers and real steps. Subscribe, share with a veteran who needs community, and leave a review telling us how you found purpose after service.

Transcript

Welcome From Midwinter Conference

Jerry Allhands 0:02

This is the Veterans Sound Off Podcast. I'm your host, Jerry Allhands, a veteran of the U.S. Air Force and the U.S. Army. On each episode, we will visit with veterans and hear their stories and experiences. This week, we recently attended the American Legion Department of Mississippi's Midwinter Conference in Camp Shelby, Mississippi. And good afternoon. We are at the Midwinter American Legion Conference in Camp's Shelby, historic Camp Shelby, outside of Hattiesburg, Mississippi. Today I am having the distinct privilege of meeting a new American Legion member. I think I got that right. You are new?

Jacob Harrison 0:40

I've been a member for a few years, but I have recently transferred into a a new post. Okay.

Meet Jacob Harrison

Jerry Allhands 0:45

All right. Jacob Harrison is our guest today. I'm seeing a t-shirt with an anchor, globe, and eagle on it.

Jacob Harrison 0:55

Yes, sir. I I started in the Marine Corps. I did uh 13 years there and then uh transferred over to the Army and did another 13 years and retired with 26 years of active service.

Jerry Allhands 1:06

Well, I see 10 fingers and 10 toes.

Jacob Harrison 1:08

Uh yes. Okay. Last time I counted. There you go.

Jerry Allhands 1:12

So again, how many years in the in the Marine Corps?

Jacob Harrison 1:15

Uh thirteen. Thirteen? Yeah, 97 to 2010. Okay. And then uh 2010 to uh 2023, I think was my retirement date uh from the Army. Active Army. Yes, sir. Wow.

Jerry Allhands 1:30

Well, thank you for your service first of all. Um thank you for being in Marine. You know, I've heard uh you know, once a Marine, always a Marine. I I'm guessing that's still true. Yes. Yep. In the Army, we're not real sure. You know, or depends on the day. Definitely. And I say that with all love and respect because I'm I'm ex-Air Force, excuse me, prior Air Force and prior Army. Uh I tried to join the Marine Corps and uh I couldn't distinguish the colors in the box. So I it's a Marine Corps joke.

Service Journey Marine To Army

Jacob Harrison 1:58

It it is. Um the I personally like the blue crayons. Uh they taste like blueberries. So that was the trick, huh? Andor a purple. Yeah. So you gotta taste test them.

Jerry Allhands 2:08

There you go. I kept going for the green, looking for an apple. That lemon was rough. Yes, I love jokes here, definitely. So you you've been in the in the American Legion for how long?

Jacob Harrison 2:18

Uh uh three years now.

Jerry Allhands 2:20

Three years. Okay.

Jacob Harrison 2:21

All at the same post or uh yes, I I uh I started at Post 69 in Columbus, Mississippi. Okay. Um uh joined over there. Um a larger post. Um it is quite large. Yes. Uh um enjoyed the you know, the camaraderie, enjoyed being around uh, you know, people. Um I like to say that uh military folks can kind of, you know, we can always smell our own. Sure. So it's uh it's always nice when that sounds familiar. Uh you can hang out with uh, you know, like-minded folks and uh uh people with shared experience. Uh you know, I think that's one of the things that uh a lot of people struggle with um, you know, as they transition from, you know, maybe active duty even uh in the guard, you know, situations like that. Um, you know, you're never gonna be in situations like that again. Uh so the closest thing you can get is an organization that's kind of dedicated to uh you know preserving that with the veterans.

Jerry Allhands 3:17

How was it for you leaving active duty and going to a civilian life?

Jacob Harrison 3:21

Um I you know, I'm I'm again, I'm not gonna lie, I struggled with it. Um I did have a little bit of experience because obviously when I when I uh when my time was up in the Marine Corps, I you know I was able to you know step away from that. But um I always knew that I was going back. Like I had already signed a contract, I knew I was gonna go back and I knew the army was gonna be different, but I I felt the the idea was gonna be the same, you know.

Jerry Allhands 3:49

Um How long was your break in service?

Jacob Harrison 3:51

Uh I actually didn't have one. Really? Yeah. I I I got out of the Marine Corps on June 28th of 2010, and uh I signed my army contract June 29th. Wow. So um there was you know certain things I had to do. Um of course I didn't have to go back through basic training and stuff like that. Uh uh opportunity that's afforded to people who've completed Marine Corps basic training. Um but it's a uh coming out of the um active service, um a little older, uh a little wiser, uh so they tell me.

Jerry Allhands 4:31

Um but the laughing because I remember that feeling.

Losing And Seeking Purpose After Service

Jacob Harrison 4:34

Yeah. Um but like I said, the the biggest struggle was uh, you know, you you it wasn't the day-to-day stuff, it was the it was, you know, it was the guys. Um the the the people that you uh you know you chew the dirt with. Um you go into the civilian workforce and there's nothing that you're gonna do that's gonna give you that same level of camaraderie. Right. So um so I did. I struggled with that probably for about uh six, eight months. Um you know, I was uh I I I got a job, I was I was working, um, I refused to cut my hair or shave my beard, um, much to my wife's chagrin.

Jerry Allhands 5:16

Um I I'm shaking my head, laughing because I had the same exact and I think a lot of us get out of the service. Uh that's one of the first things that happens. Right. You grow your hair, you grow a beard, and unfortunately, as the older I get, the less hair I've got, and the more beard I've got.

Finding Belonging In The Legion

Jacob Harrison 5:31

So yeah, the um well it's you know the one thing that you know holds true across all services is you're gonna have a haircut and you're gonna have a shave, yeah, you know, for the most part. And um when you get the opportunity to like get a break away from that, you're like, well, I'm gonna go full bore here. Yeah. And um, you know, that's what that you know, that's what I did. It was um you know, it was my way of uh I don't know, displaying that I had completed my time in service, you know. So um it took me a little while. I uh eventually found the American Legion uh through some friends and uh you know we started hanging out up there.

Speaker 1 6:17

Okay.

American Legion Riders Origin And Mission

Jacob Harrison 6:18

Um, you know, Columbus very nice, very nice post. Um got a nice members' room and stuff like that. And um we you know we started hanging out up there. Uh that eventually, you know, motorcycle enthusiast, and it eventually led to uh joining the American Legion Riders. Wow. Um which is a uh you know it's uh it's not quite as uh you know it's not as stu you know as as old or as storied as the you know Sons or the Ladies Auxiliary or anything like that, but it's a uh it's a uh a good program. Uh it's been around since the since the nineties. Um the birthplace of it was um, you know, in uh I believe it was either 93 or 94, but it started in Michigan. And um, you know, it's spread all around now. And it's uh another tool that the American Legion has to uh you know bring in people, you know, to uh there's lots of veterans out there, lots of veterans love ride bikes, so it stands to reason that you'd be able to bring some of those guys in and um you know increase your numbers and you know have some fun and being able to ride bikes while you're doing it.

Purpose Vs Civilian Work Realities

Jerry Allhands 7:29

Another good way to interact with each other. Yes, sir. Okay. Uh we were talking about uh transitioning from active duty to civilian life. You know, we talked about the hair and the beard. Um I missed it. I I missed the purpose. Did you find the same thing?

Jacob Harrison 7:47

Yes. It it's it's like I I talked about the camaraderie a few minutes ago. It was more of a uh it was it was that that purpose, it's just it's you know, you're not gonna find that camaraderie in that workplace, you know, very, very it's very rare. Um and uh the purpose is like you're you know, the military's organized chaos. And um, you know, dealing with that every day and then going to you know, not dealing with it, um you that that purpose falls away, you know. And uh I I served in numerous roles, had a lot of different jobs, uh, but I primarily served in combat arms. And um your entire when when you when you do that, and uh obviously I'm a veteran of both Iraq and Afghanistan, and um when you do that, you that that purpose is is there every day. Like you're everything you do every day is is helping you or your team or your buddies survive.

Jerry Allhands 8:54

Yeah.

Jacob Harrison 8:54

And then you go from that to um I log on to a computer, you know. Yeah. And it's uh that that that is a tough pill to swallow. A lot of guys have a lot of trouble with that. Yeah.

Jerry Allhands 9:04

Do you feel like um the American Legion filled that void or helped um give you a place to talk?

Family Support And Auxiliary Strength

Jacob Harrison 9:13

I I really do. It's uh you know, it's it's it's kind of like I stated, it was uh it was that uh you know, it was it was kind of that new home. You know, it wasn't all army, you know, it wasn't all Marines or anything like that. It's it's it's uh different people with uh you know similarities, uh shared experiences, um, but experiences vary. So it's uh it gave me an opportunity to listen how the other half lived. Um, you know, I was I was told those Air Force guys had it real nice.

Speaker 1 9:44

Yeah.

Jacob Harrison 9:45

Um and uh I must have been in a different Air Force.

Jerry Allhands 9:49

I was I was an Air Force security policeman in the in the 80s or in the 90s. Uh 82nd Airborne after that. So it's like I get all those Air Force jokes like you get the crayon jokes. Okay, and it's like wait, that was that was in the Air Force? You know, I didn't get that fancy chow ha.

Recruiting Younger Veterans And Misconceptions

Jacob Harrison 10:06

Well, once yeah, yeah, we I mean um we used to uh I I did uh a couple of tours in Iraq doing EOD EOD security. Oh um thank you so that uh that job there was um it's tough uh but our our our main priority was to um you know we would dispatch from the FOBS and we would go um you know detonate you know explosive ordnance um you know be it an IED or whatever whatever we found at the time but the um the you know the mentality that you get with that always constantly trying to like um like be aware and and be uh it's it's not something that leaves you and it and it's something that you uh it's it's something that you uh like you struggle to I I don't want to say let go of but it's something that you need to ease back on. Right. Um but um the the Air Force bases that we went to over there, you know, we we traveled around a good bit and uh we hit uh you know Ballad Air Base and I was like, man, I was like these guys got a swimming pool. For real? They did they really did. Yeah. Well they you know a lot of those a lot of those uh fobs and stuff that were utilized in uh in Iraq were uh they were repurposed um from the uh the former regime. Okay. Uh so you know they had it had a swimming pool there. The they just kept doing that. Yeah, the pump worked and uh Air Force guys were smart smart enough to keep it rolling. So um it wasn't something they could do all the time, but it I mean it was uh I'll tell you this, it it's humorous, it's it's funny to see something that's like that out of place, but it makes sense. It was hot.

Jerry Allhands 11:58

You know, we were talking you mentioned your wife earlier. Yes. Um when you left active duty and were out that first six, seven months or so.

Jacob Harrison 12:09

Um how did she respond? Um I think it was tough. It was tough on her too. Yeah. Um she came with me to the Legion basically. Um she uh went through the process to, you know, join the auxiliary and stuff like that. Um gave her a place to uh you know, talk to other people about what I was going through. Okay. Uh because you know those excuse me.

Jerry Allhands 12:37

Sure.

What The Legion Does For Veterans

Jacob Harrison 12:39

Those uh the you know, those ladies that are there, um they had been through a good you know, they'd been through that before. Yeah. So her having that to kind of lean on, I think that helped her out uh you know, a significant amount. Um you know, she was able to talk with some of the other wives and s and stuff like that. And uh I think it gave her some tools to uh for lack of better terminology, deal with me dealing with that, you know. So she you know, she she welcomed it. Uh, you know uh, you know, now I'm trying to get, you know, I'm back involved, want to take a bigger role uh in the Legion, uh Legion Riders and stuff like that. Uh I'm not so sure she's you know crazy about that just yet, but um, you know, uh I've got I t I keep telling her I gotta do something. Yeah. And and we'd rather me do this than something else. So uh she um I I really do think that it's been beneficial to you know to both of us.

Jerry Allhands 13:40

Uh age-wise, how do you how is it uh at your post? Uh are you the youngest or the middle?

First Conference Impressions And Networking

Jacob Harrison 13:46

The uh I would say I am one of the youngest. Okay. Um in our post. We uh the new post that we transferred to, post 26 up in Aberdeen, Mississippi. Okay. Um it uh you know it's uh uh you know an older veteran population. Um we are with our starting of that riders chapter up there, that's what we're working uh working towards. Uh my uh myself and uh another gentleman. We are kind of hoping to bring in, you know, some younger folks with the riders and uh you know, just you know, see if we can't you know inject a little bit of you know life into it, you know, put them in a situation where this is you know generational, you know, where it carries forward, you know, where people want to do this.

Jerry Allhands 14:39

So as as a younger veteran, and I don't know your age, I'm assuming late 30s. Um forties. 40s?

Jacob Harrison 14:48

Yeah, I'm older. I'm way older than I look. Hey, that's a great thing. You want to trade? That's not even true. I they can't see me.

Local Post Details And Building Membership

Jerry Allhands 14:58

We uh you know I recently recruited a a new member to my post who is a um he was a national guardsman. He's his dad and I actually served together. Okay. Um law enforcement, military, he was a Marine. Um generational. I had his dad was in the Legion, passed away. He comes back from the Army Guard, joins the Legion. He is 30. No, I'm sorry, not even in his 30s yet. Our youngest member. Nice. And the the standing joke is this is your post. You are the future of this post. You know, what can we do to bring other young people into the post and let them understand that this building, this facility, this what we're doing here is gonna be yours for the next 20, 30 years. Right. You know, are are you finding any pushback or any any excitement in your community?

Launching A New Riders Chapter & Next Steps

Jacob Harrison 15:49

You know, one of the big things is that uh you know, we we actually recently talked about this uh in our in our last meeting where you know we want to kind of increase our community outreach. Um I think the number one thing that happens, uh, you know, with me having retired a couple years ago, I I I've still got, you know, there's still a couple of folks left that I know that are still in some of these units. And when you reach back out to them, you know, the the biggest question that you get asked is uh, you know, it's what the you know what what is the what does the Legion do for me?

Jerry Allhands 16:23

Yeah.

Jacob Harrison 16:24

And um, you know, and and people want to know. A lot of people don't know the difference between uh people don't know the difference between a you know the VFW or the or the DAV or folks don't know the difference. Sure. Uh even the you know, even the younger veterans, because it's when I was coming through, it was kind of hammered into you. You know, you you they people talked about these organizations that that that generation, the the generation that's you know at the top right now, yeah, it was something that that they try to instill in us. Um I don't know if you know through the I you know the Iraq and Afghanistan, I I don't know if there was so much time and uh like the cycle chewed up so many people. Um I don't know if it wasn't passed along like like I may maybe I could have done a better job. But you know, now our thing is is that we're gonna get um you know we're we're gonna get these folks in there. We're gonna tell them what the Legion does for them. Legion advocates for veterans, and if that's you, then you should want to be a part of that. Yeah um to st to start, you know, there's other things, you know, there's the the auxiliary, there's scholarships, there's legion riders, there's so many things that you can get in there and you can do. And if if if you want to advocate for veterans, this is where you want to be.

Jerry Allhands 17:42

So great idea you know, great, great deal there. For me, when I when I got out, um I was a single parent. Yeah. Right? Okay, tired, beat down, tired. Didn't want anything to do with the military, didn't want anything to do. I was proud of my service. I was just just okay. Time to be a civilian. I dealt with that depression, that part of it. Right. Uh a World War II era veteran. Uh stayed on my case constantly. When are you gonna come to the Legion? When are you gonna come? When you know, what are you gonna do? When are you gonna join? Um he passed away while I was out of state visiting family. Came back and joined the Legion the same day in his honor. Twenty-seven years ago and have a look back. Okay, good. So it's uh uh embarrassing to say I I waited, you know, but it's something if you don't tell somebody about the Legion, if you don't invite them in, they're not gonna come.

Jacob Harrison 18:34

There's a lot of misconceptions. Uh I I I was I had one myself. I at points in time I thought, hey, I couldn't I thought I had to already be out. Yeah. I I didn't know I could join while I was still in, you know. Um and there's times I look back on thinking that and I'm like, dang, I was I was that's pretty dumb. Like why did I why why was I like that? But you know, we've it's uh it it offers a lot. Yeah and I think that the the best thing that we can do, um, and and like I said, we're we're working on doing this with our Legion riders, is you know, we we we're gonna reach out to folks, we're gonna let them know, hey, we're here. Um you know, we've we've got other things. Uh I think uh sometimes some of the you know uh VFWs and the DAVs and the and the legions, they you know, they get a bad rap is uh you know just a bar or something like that. And uh but it's it's it's not what we are. Yeah. Hey, is is that at some of the locations? Sure it is. Um is it everything we are? Absolutely not. Um but veterans tell their best stories, you know, sitting there. It doesn't mean you got a drink to be there and tell the story.

Jerry Allhands 19:46

When you were to be there, hear it. Yeah, yeah. Yeah, when you're relaxed a couple and ready to see everybody, it's it's a great, great thing to uh to be able to sit down and have that uh unfiltered conversation. Yeah, thank you. It's uh I I wish that I had not waited in joining the Legion. You know, when I look back, say I could have 50 years membership now, you know, could have joined while I was on active duty, you know.

Jacob Harrison 20:10

So the uh that's one of the um it's one of my biggest regrets is you know, here I am now uh in my 40s trying to you know map this out. You know, you've seen me wander around lost here at the convention uh, you know, quite a few times.

Jerry Allhands 20:25

Um I want to ask you, what's what's your is this your first convention? This is this absolutely is, yeah. What's your what's your thoughts on it?

Jacob Harrison 20:32

Um I I like it. Yeah, I I like what's going on here. Um, you know, the bringing in the vendors to talk to folks, the you know, a couple of classes, getting to meet people is probably the biggest thing because let's face it, that's what I talked about earlier. The the biggest benefit to the Legion is is sharing your stories with other like-minded people and and that therapeutic effect that it has on, you know, uh people people that are you know transitioning out or you know uh maybe who have lost that purpose, yeah. Um, you know, the opportunity to mentor a younger individual, you know, into coming into the Legion. Um so I think that it's um you know that there's so much here to do. Um they do a really good job of trying to get the information across to us. Um the uh you know uh having uh commander come in and and and talk to us. National commander. National commander, yes, yeah. Having the national commander come in, talk to us, talk to us about some of the things that he's doing, he's advocating for, you know, his priority list. Um it it's it's good to hear that. It's good to know that something else is happening other than our you know our Tuesday meeting once a month, you know.

Jerry Allhands 21:46

So So will we see you in Natchez at the summer convention?

Jacob Harrison 21:50

Uh yeah, I I I believe so. I I think that this is uh, you know, number one, we're always looking for a reason to get on the motorcycles. Um and uh number two Um you know it it's good to come back and see some of the folks that you know we've we're starting to forge relationships with here this time. Um we kind of didn't get the memo on the on the dinner last night for the dress code.

Jerry Allhands 22:13

And uh you guys were great. I'm sorry that that uh that didn't get across. Uh I have to admit that I'm responsible for the Yap app. If you don't have the Yap, I encourage you to to send me a text. We'll get it over to you.

Jacob Harrison 22:26

I I will more than definitely do that because uh that was uh that that was like uh showing up to a uniform inspection with my PT uniform on.

Jerry Allhands 22:36

It was a diverse crowd last night in appearance.

Jacob Harrison 22:39

Right, right.

Jerry Allhands 22:39

That was our first one. We'll we'll be doing it much better.

Jacob Harrison 22:42

I I really like that because they you know that's something else that goes by the wayside that people don't really talk about doing a dining out or something like that, a mess night, or yeah. It's something that when you get out, you you may never see something like that again. You know, having the opportunity to do that and kind of remember, you know, my my my uh my friend that came down here with me. We you know, I talked about a couple of the ones that I'd done in the Army and the Marine Corps. Marine Corps, that's a that's a big production for a dining out. It's a big, big production. And uh so nice to see it, nice to have those memories brought back up, you know, they're fond memories. So yeah, I uh like I said, I I've really enjoyed you know everything that we've done here so far.

Jerry Allhands 23:21

We hope you'll keep coming back to them. Uh just Mike that you met earlier. Yes. He and our past department commanders, and we were critiquing the event last night afterwards going, well, we messed this up, we missed it was we but we did it in just and fun, so that the next time it's better and better. That's what we're doing.

Jacob Harrison 23:39

Well, it's a building process. No, you know, you walk, crawl, run, they talked, they they taught us that, and I I can't even remember uh way way back in basic training, you know, walk, crawl, run. And uh so that it was a good walk last night, and I think you know, next time they put something like that together, it'll be a crawl, and then before you know it, we'll be running.

Jerry Allhands 23:56

We'll let you run the next one.

Jacob Harrison 23:59

I'm I'm not volunteering. Well it's well I did that one time, and I that's how I ended up you know being able to join the American Legion. I volunteered one time.

Jerry Allhands 24:08

So yeah, you said walk, crawl, run. Yes. At my age now, it's walk, crawl, roll, you know. Tough. Hey, we really appreciate you again. You're at uh what post now?

Jacob Harrison 24:19

Uh post 26, Aberdeen, Mississippi. Aberdeen.

Jerry Allhands 24:21

And if somebody wanted to join your poster, just come visit. Where's it located and when do you meet?

Jacob Harrison 24:26

I'm sorry, say that.

Jerry Allhands 24:27

Where's the post located? Street wise.

Jacob Harrison 24:30

Um it is on uh Highway 145 in Aberdeen, Mississippi. All right. And you meet when and where? Uh we meet the first Tuesday of every month. Okay. What time? Uh we eat at uh 6 30 and our meetings at 7. Okay.

Jerry Allhands 24:45

I'm not going to cook, so I'm assuring you that the meals are great, right? Because I'm my post, I cook hot dogs one time.

Jacob Harrison 24:53

We we we do a pretty good job. The you know, most of the folks there are um, you know, the like I said, we've we've a little bit of a dwindling membership over there. We're we're we're trying to help change that. And uh they do a you know, that they're fiercely proud of it. And uh that that's what I like to see. I'm I'm I'm proud to be up there. So I I I you know the food's good and our and our meetings are short.

Jerry Allhands 25:14

Everybody likes that part. Right. But when you get there to visit you visit before the meal? Yes, we do.

Speaker 1 25:20

Okay.

Jacob Harrison 25:20

Yeah, we we you know we hang out for a few minutes, uh, we you know break some bread, we'll chat about some things. Uh, you know, uh we may raise a couple of points that we want to talk to in in the meeting, but it's just kind of to get it on folks' radar, and then uh, you know, we go in there, we call the order, and uh, you know, we we go through our taskings and and you know, I I enjoy it. Uh, you know, we get we we get a good uh there's usually some decent humor that goes with it. So um yeah, it's it it's a good time.

Jerry Allhands 25:50

Are you an officer in the post?

Jacob Harrison 25:51

I am not. Um like I said, we have you know uh my friend and I have just recently transferred in. Uh we we transferred in with the uh with the goal of starting Legion Riders. Um we're here to talk to Miss Tina uh uh about that here this uh this weekend. Tina Hirst, she's our director of American Legion Riders, yeah. Yeah, she is. I'm I'm sorry. Um and um so the but the hope is is that once we get in there and we get established, uh you know uh how it works right now is I'll probably be the director for the Legion Riders uh at that point in time. But it's not opposed to it's not something that I'm gonna hold on to forever. I I want to make sure that uh the new guys that we get that do come in, they get the opportunity to do that stuff. And uh at that point in time, I you know, I I would look into you know perhaps having an officer role if if if if I was elected.

Jerry Allhands 26:39

So I I think you're gonna be elected pretty soon. I like that. Yeah, my wife told me I could join the riders anytime I wanted after I increased my life insurance. Not sure what she's trying to tell me.

Jacob Harrison 26:51

Of course, then you have to buy a motorcycle, so that's the that's the big stepping stone for a lot of folks.

Jerry Allhands 26:56

I used to joke with Tina Hurst and Mike Hurst about that, and somebody several years ago gave me a miniature Harley.

Jacob Harrison 27:03

Well, there you go.

Jerry Allhands 27:04

Not big enough.

Jacob Harrison 27:04

No, no, can't get on can't get many places on that, huh? Yeah, I tried.

Jerry Allhands 27:08

I tried. Brother, I appreciate you, Jacob Harris. Thank you so much, and thank you for your service, and we're shaking hands so nobody can see that. So thank you.

Jacob Harrison 27:16

It was a good it was a good solid hand. There you go for a guy with a tour rotator cup. Not bad. Decent. Thank you very much, sir.

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