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Twas the night before season!
Well, welcome back, everybody. We got a special episode for you. It's uh national holiday. Yeah, coming up tomorrow. Yeah. Christmas morning is tomorrow. And you guys are probably wondering why it's uh Christmas morning on the last day of September when we're recording this, but all bow hunters know tomorrow is October 1st. Well, for any for them for most Midwest states. Yeah, which we've been watching guys in Kentucky and Tennessee kill velvet deer for two weeks now, and yeah, it's finally our turn to go chasing giants.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's our holiday. Yeah. I'm waking up to present. Yeah. I uh made a Christmas tree out of all my deer last night, and he was like, What are you doing?
SPEAKER_01I was like, tomorrow's pretty much Christmas. Open today. We got the ozone machines running, got all the money we spent on scent killers and probably just wasted sprayed down.
SPEAKER_00We're yeah, it was the night before opening day when all the bow hunters was checking their boxes.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we I know my bows tucked in, ready to go, and uh I won't be able to sleep. Won't be able to sleep. It's exciting day. We are pumped.
SPEAKER_00I'll probably have a dream about me killing a giant, then I'll see like a spike.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I know I won't be able to sleep at all, and it's gonna be warm. Warm opening day. Not last year I remember it being warm. I don't remember how warm. I just know it was I was sweating that night in the stand. But uh opening day, nope, opening day last year is when I had that trespasser walk in on the side. Yes, I remember that. So hopefully we don't have that happen this year. I put a pile of trespassing signs and the cell cam signs out this year. So hopefully that doesn't happen again. Yeah. Well, what's your strategies? You know, there's uh like we talked in our first episode, there we got a lot of acorns around this year, and my big deer are hitting these big acorn ridges, and I'm probably there's one I can sneak into pretty quick. And I'm I the only morning I really hunt in October is opening day, just you know, yeah tradition, go out there and do it. And I I think I'm gonna place it it's less than a five-minute walk off the road. We're just gonna get in there and sit the morning and see what happens. But pretty excited. It's probably the uh I I don't know what to say, the uh boldest move I've made on opening day. Yeah. But the the wind's right, I can get in and out really, really clean. I got plenty of ridge to cover me coming in, and uh I I take good care of making sure that our uh walkways have no leaves in them. So I I should be in there quick. The stand's been there for three weeks now, so we'll we'll see. He he's he's hit this scrape on this ridge in the daylight in the morning multiple times now, so we'll see.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, last year I had a buck show up. He was there for like two days, and it was early uh it might have been three, and it was the first week of October. Yep. So I'm hoping he'll show up again. I don't know where he went. He showed back up one more time in uh November, but he was there for like three days, the beginning of October, and he went somewhere else. So I might try to get aggressive on what that deer done last year basing off what he done last year. Yep.
SPEAKER_01And I went back and looked last year, the first three days of the season, I had a pile of morning daylight photos of big deer. It's just about the morning's hard just getting to a spot without getting busted. This one I'm confident it's it's pretty close to the road. I I think I can get in there pretty clean. What we will see, and even if I do burger up something, it's close to the road. So think hopefully they think it's just somebody walking or running on the road. It shouldn't screw up things too much. And if they do it, they run their only way out is towards the center of the property. They're not gonna be able to do that.
SPEAKER_00Well, that might be why they feel so comfortable there because yeah, they can see what's coming and what's going, and yeah, you know what's going on.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, literally, it's less than a hundred yard walk, maybe fifty yards. It's easy access, and I've never hunted this ridge before. I've killed a lot of turkeys on this ridge. We're gonna try to see if we can get a buck down on opening day on this ridge. That would be cool. That way we can get to Ohio.
SPEAKER_00Yes, I uh I actually drove around Ohio, found a couple places I marked on uh on the on X that I'm gonna go knock on some doors and try to get permission.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, Lane, not so or not so much Lane, but myself I haven't been able to hunt past uh end of November in the last three years. So I I need another place. I hell this year I might be hunting until December trying to kill a deer, but uh uh I doubt it.
SPEAKER_00Mason's got a killer farm.
SPEAKER_01We we will we will see. But uh the Illinois farms I had last year, man, they they just didn't want they weren't what I thought they were, and uh didn't not even go back to them to check this year. Still looking for a new Illinois farm, maybe, or see what Lane hunts up in Ohio and well that's one thing I'm trying to figure out as I'm trying to look for them pieces that are overlooked.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. The the smaller pieces that come off a big section of timber that a neighbor owns, a waterway, you know. Yeah, over there it's a little different. The terrain's a lot more flatter ag than what I'm used to.
SPEAKER_01And really, let's say I get one knocked down in October here in Indiana, it'd be awesome to be able to go over there and hunt in the rut, where you don't have to strategize as much as you just go sit and wait. Go sit and something excited to maybe try. We'll we'll see. Neither of us have killed a deer out of state.
SPEAKER_00I have not. That's a goal I want to do. I want to kill I want to have two states bill hunting.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, my ultimate goal. Man, I can tell you I've seen a lot of these outfitters like, oh, last minute cancellation, man. They've been they've been tempting to get another state, but maybe I I talked to Lane about maybe doing something you can get some pretty cheap cold coal buck hunts down in like Texas in January. And uh maybe with a Christmas bonus, go down there and do that. That'd be something cool to do. That'd be awesome. Neither of us have ever done a guided hunt. We're too broke to do stuff like that. But I can't afford it. If if you look on those, you can get they're pretty reasonable.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Well, and I mean to go kill a hundred and forty-inch call, you know, there there's giants that they're hunting, yeah. Heck, I'd be happy to kill 140, 150.
SPEAKER_01As long as we don't see a rattlesnake, we'll be all right. I'm out on the snakes.
SPEAKER_00I see a snake, I'm done. Me too. I tell you about that snake I stepped on the other day in that pasture. I would have I would have burned it to the ground. Dude, it was I got the stepping, and this thing was probably eight foot, I mean eight inches long. So it's a big difference. Yeah, and he was probably, I'm guessing, a water moccasin copperhead hybrid. Yeah, the eight-inch one, yeah. Yeah, yeah. Every snake I see is a poisonous snake.
SPEAKER_01I mean I I don't know if we've said this on the podcast. I lived in Texas for half a year, yeah. I don't remember how long I was down there. They told me there was no snakes. And the last day I was there and they killed a rattlesnake, and you can bet your ass I was on the quickest drive getting out of there. I would have lived down there the rest of my life. If I would have never seen a rattlesnake, I would have I would have probably moved back down there. But uh I'm out on the snakes. Me freaking too. But like we said, we're trying to find obviously we're granted planning as this is the last day of September and we're trying to find new hunting ground. But uh it just gives us something, even if we don't, something cool to talk about, strategize about.
SPEAKER_00That's a good dream. Yeah, I guess. You know, if I get told no, I will could have been a yes.
SPEAKER_01With his two kids coming, probably not in the the budget to get a lease. I've been telling her, just I'll I'll get a bot. We'll just just see what we need to do.
SPEAKER_00But uh Well, I found one, but it's literally 45 minutes from my house, and they want like eight grand for it, and it's pretty much a pasture. Yeah, with like five trees on it.
SPEAKER_01Not an eight grand lease. Man, I saw one the other day. I was looking up leases, and there's one in Illinois like five, six hundred acres. Yes, just take a shot in the dark.
SPEAKER_0030,000. 32,000. Yes. When I worked for that farmer in Illinois, there was a farm that uh he had a buddy that he knew, and they leased out that farm, and they had guys come from Chicago paying over 20 grand a year to hunt it.
SPEAKER_01Okay, that and we're gonna have uh uh another friend of mine, Clay Rhodes, he's gonna have a podcast coming up here, and he lives down in Agger County, Illinois, and man, the leases down there are freaking nuts. There's that I don't I don't remember, I'll get the story wrong, but there's that. I think he's Illinois Archery Record, maybe. Yeah. Was killed there three, four years ago. But he manages some properties for some guys down there, and just wait till you hear what people are paying down. It's nuts.
SPEAKER_00Well, and it's crazy to me because they're hard to find. Like that many people are paying for them. Yeah. And I I can't if I could afford it, it'd be one thing. Yeah, but I just I can't I can't afford it.
SPEAKER_01I I can't either. It's it's crazy.
SPEAKER_00I can't afford my monthly bills on my tactic cams line alone. Yeah. Or in Moultries. You know, what we I think I run at Tactic Cam Moultries and Brownings right now.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I I mainly run Moultries. I got a couple tactic cams as well. We're both bargain hunters for yeah, cell cams. Uh man, I run a lot of the Moultries though, because they they have sales all the time.
SPEAKER_00And I feel like they're the best bang for your buck.
SPEAKER_01So I I feel like you can cover your farm with them. I I'm not saying they're the bet like man, the tacticam photos I get are they awesome. Awesome. The Moultries though, maybe um I get I can see what the deer is on there. And I was just telling him though, they they got these pro uh models of all these cameras, and man, they're awesome. And I got a couple of them for good deals this year.
SPEAKER_00And uh And we don't have a trail cam sponsor or any sponsor, so we can talk about what cameras you know what we like or not like.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I really like my tactic cameras, but man, the mo like I run 15 Moultries, and it's less than 150 bucks for that game a month. And that each of those cameras were I I mean, I get them for sale. You can get two of them for like a hundred bucks right now.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, literally, yeah.
SPEAKER_01I was just telling him, I I got the solar, so they have these solar ones that come with a solar panel and a rechargeable battery, and it's the pro model, and I got that for a hundred bucks.
SPEAKER_00That's a hell of a deal.
SPEAKER_01And to get Tacticam's cheapest camera is 130.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, a single camera. Yeah, and you can get the Multry packs for literally like 11500.
SPEAKER_01Multries now send all their photos in HD, so they are better quality than what they have been. So I think we'll be excited to see that this year. We don't have to pay for extra HD photos or wait to request one and waste more battery on it.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, it's been I I'm really happy with them for especially and their battery life I feel like's really pretty decent.
SPEAKER_01On mine, I've been I have terrible service, so some of them die pretty quick. But uh I've been buying those solar ones now, and that'll that'll help a lot. Like I've had that one out there for three weeks and it's still 98% battery. And I mean it's not on a field day, like it's still back in the it gets a lot of sun back in there, but it's it's pretty cool what they can do.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, the it's uh I can't believe those seasons already here. It's crazy. It has been quick. Um but I think we're ready. Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I I know you're still waiting on a big deer to show up. Um and usually not until late October until you usually get a big one, right?
SPEAKER_00I'll be honest with you. Um last year he showed up on the 17th. Mm-hmm. And then after that, they just piled in. Yeah. They literally did. And it's like that every year for the last two weeks, October. And then the thing is, is I don't even know why I pay for, you know, or I have cameras out right now in September, and I know every year it's going to be the same thing, so I don't know why I keep running cameras in September.
SPEAKER_01This year I didn't put I didn't put any cell cams out till September 1st. It it's stupid to for what it cost. And I got a pile of SD card cameras, so I just put them out, and then after I check cards, I'm like, oh, let's put a cell cam there, you know what I mean?
SPEAKER_00But you know, it it it can change, I guess. A deer could show up a little sooner. Yeah, and I think that you know, I like to have that intel just in case I do got a big one that's earlier. I think September 1st is yeah.
SPEAKER_01That that's probably to me late enough, maybe September 15th you can put one out. But yeah, uh what I I put them out September 1st and like I what a week ago when I went and pulled some SD card cameras, I moved some of those around that weren't in spot.
SPEAKER_00You know, they're in spot mine are all now over scrapes, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, all all mine are over scrapes, um or mock scrapes, or I I hang a lot of the the the hemp rope scrapes too.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I actually done uh three of them this year.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. And really last I hung them all last year and didn't have great luck with them, but now the longer they've sat out there, uh like the the big deer I'm chasing right now, he I've got a couple photos of him hitting one that I don't think I have a single photo of a deer from the last couple years last year on it at all.
SPEAKER_00But mine are more active than I thought for being as fresh.
SPEAKER_01The other thing though is I had a bunch of them that they like too much.
SPEAKER_00Yeah.
SPEAKER_01You gotta put them on a pretty stout branch, I learned. They are tearing them down. There's four. I I think I put up six last year. And if you have listened to an episode before, uh a lot of big timber I hunt, so six it really isn't that many spread out over that many acres, but um there's probably three of them still standing. I mean they're no, I I think there's two now.
SPEAKER_00They tore them all down.
SPEAKER_01There's four made it through the summer, or a a full year I'd say. And then there's already been two torn down since I've been checking cameras. Wow. Wow.
SPEAKER_00That's cool though. I mean they are hitting them.
SPEAKER_01One I actually moved to the complete opposite side of the farm. I don't know. Have you ever listened to a podcast with Troy Pottinger? Yes. He talks about he takes like dirt from scrapes and puts in a different scrape to piss off a buck. Yep. So I took this uh hemp rope from one side of the farm to the complete opposite side of the farm, and we're in a we're seeing, I don't know.
SPEAKER_00See what it does? Yeah.
SPEAKER_01I I don't know. I mean it could be dumb.
SPEAKER_00Well, they actually make I don't know if you've ever seen it. Um I just saw Caleb Griner post a um thing on Middle of Switell with it. But it's like d scrape dirt.
SPEAKER_01Oh yeah, yeah, I've seen that. The only thing like it's called uh gravedigger, I think. Yes. The only thing I look it's uh like a it if maybe they have other ones, but like I just saw it at Bass Pro Shops the other day. It's dough estrocent.
SPEAKER_00Is it?
SPEAKER_01I haven't read that before into it. And maybe they have other ones too, but the one at Bass Pro Shop, they had that, and I just thought I didn't think that'd be great to put out year-round.
SPEAKER_00No, probably not. Probably be a more of middle October type of thing.
SPEAKER_01I made a lot of scrapes middle of August, and I'm not gonna make a whole lot after that, you know what I mean? Yeah. And I probably made ten scrapes and seven of them. They are they're hitting pretty good.
SPEAKER_00So Well, and I I don't know if you're the same, but I have the same few scrapes that I use every year. I mean, they just tear them up.
SPEAKER_01I've been doing that too, but uh I I've really this year dove into different parts of the farm that I'm not used to, so I I built some new ones, built some where like years before I didn't plan too well where I was putting them. So now I'm planning like, hey, I can put a stand here close by. Yeah, I can shoot them. Some of them, like, hey, this is a great spot for it, but it's a seven-mile walk in there, and there's no way I'd go shoot a deer back there, you know what I mean? Yeah. So it I I did a lot better job of planning where I put them this year and um trying to more strategy. Man, there's some of those. I went and looked. I there's this big um community scrape on this ridge that I I never made deer put it by himself in the last three years. That's been my best camera. Yeah. And usually you can tell where I couldn't find like you can go find it whenever. Anytime of year, you can go find the scrape, even if they're not like smoking it. Yeah, you can still see, hey, that's probably where that was. And I couldn't find it when I went to put cameras out this year. And I I looked and looked, and I finally I kind of I had to go look at old trail cam photos and line up the trees. I put one there and they aren't hitting it at all. The one they've been hitting for years. It's it's crazy.
SPEAKER_00I wonder something probably I wonder if something changed in there or what?
SPEAKER_01I I don't know. And really that side of the farm have a lot less deer on it. Just I think crop rotation and and everything this year. I I don't know. Now the good thing, um our farm out of all the neighbors right now is the only one that still has food on it.
SPEAKER_00Well, that's a plus. Yeah, that's a big plus.
SPEAKER_01I really think um the main cornfield on the farm is getting taken out here this first week of the season. And that's where the open up a lot. Yeah, I'm pretty excited. They went and the farmers got four fields there on the property of their farms, and he went and opened up a field and it was too wet ten days before the season. We got a little rain. I it was close enough. I I think he's gonna be here this week, so I'm I'm actually pretty excited to get to go hunt over that opening week here.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, they really haven't um a lot of my corn and stuff is still up, so hopefully once that stuff gets out, it'll it'll it'll change.
SPEAKER_01There isn't all the neighbor stuff is out. Yeah, we are the only place that still has a standing cornfield on it. Yeah, we're uh we're three and I think I'm the only neighbor around that has food plots as well. I might be wrong. I I'm not I'm not not neighborly, but I'm not the most talking about neighbor, so I don't know. But there are a couple of them kill big deer. They probably have food plots I don't know about. Like the one does a really good job, CRP, um cutting trees. He does a good job. I don't know of any food plots he has, though, but he kills big deer every year. Yeah.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, you can sometimes you'll be shocked on what a neighbor's doing. Yeah. I think sometimes we underestimate her. We get so competitive. Yeah, we're like, hmm, what's our neighbor doing? Or our neighbor ain't worth grapping up.
SPEAKER_01I had a neighbor last year that I'd never talked to, and actually he uh I didn't even know he hunted this place. He's he's not the owner, but he he works for the owner and he hunts the place, and he sent my uh cousin a bunch of photos of the my deer, so that's pretty cool to get. And I had a pile of photos too, but it's just neat to learn more about the story behind each deer. Well, and uh, you know, if a lot of neighbors would work together, they'd probably kill a lot more big deer. I I agree. They would. And we we got one, he he talks to my cousin a lot, and he he lets us know I remember there's a a problem last year of a trespass, and he let me know, hey, there's somebody out there. So we we don't talk, but we we always have each other's back.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I well I have a pretty good neighbor, luckily on my one farm, and we talk on a regular basis and like kind of keep each other updated and and you know, try to help each other out because helping each other out is not I mean, we're not screwing each other, you know. We're you know, we're always trying to to see, hey, what's this deer doing? You know, what's his pattern, what what time was he there and what time was he here, you know? And somebody's gonna kill him. You know what I mean? You know exactly. I I'd rather it be two guys working hard at it than Tom and Joe show up on opening day at gun season and you know, which there's nothing wrong with that, but yeah, you know, we just I we're working at it, you know.
SPEAKER_01The only problem with not uh with having still uh crops in the field, uh I usually when the farmer comes in and takes crops out, so when I hang a lot of stands that day, follow them in with the truck, and so there's I got a pile of stands still that I need to put up. You still have some stands you're waiting to put out, or you kind of got them locked in for I got obviously you hang and hunt a bunch.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, I got stands locked. I'm I mean I'm definitely gonna jump around that saddle the most. Um but I I got my two lock ons are out right now, yeah. Just in the in the honey hole spots, but the one spot is pretty easy to take down. I mean, I can slip in there and rip it out real quick. I wouldn't call it um the center of the farm, but it's a good transition spot.
SPEAKER_01And I I kind of have a lot of my lock-ons too, close to where you know I can run in there at lunchtime one day and go take them down if I need to. But I I invested in some more stands this year, so I don't have to hang them as much. Yeah, I you can find a lot of deals after your deer season. Last year I bought four stands after deer season that were 75% off.
SPEAKER_00I'd need to find one more light lock on. I would like to have one more just to kind of be able to, you know, leave or um hang. And so I think I'm going to uh try to find one more. Then once I have that, I'll give me uh three lock ons to run and gun with and my my saddle.
SPEAKER_01And then you're you're planning on taking some does out early this year, right?
SPEAKER_00That is the goal. I this first week I'd like to get some doe's killed.
SPEAKER_01Yeah. I'm kind of the opposite. I always wait till the end. My my cousins come up from Alabama and I usually I'll go try to shoot a buck before they get here, but I I usually try to stay out of the woods after that and and we'll we'll shoot a lot of does after last year I didn't go out to shoot a doe until after gun season. I mean it was December. Snow was out. It felt like a terrible idea at the time, but well, I don't know how much I'll be able to hunt late season with the babies. You need a little knock down now for sure.
SPEAKER_00Even I'm gonna need a couple, probably uh days in the woods afterwards.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I don't I don't blame you. Yeah, we'll see how many days Avery gets you lets you leave that out.
SPEAKER_00I get uh six weeks off work. Oh, there you go. I'm hoping that she'll uh let me go a couple days.
SPEAKER_01January.
SPEAKER_00There we go.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, you can tell me that now I'm excited.
SPEAKER_00Oh yeah. Yeah, finding pigs and and deer hunting.
SPEAKER_01Awesome. Um any other big plans for opening day or just no.
SPEAKER_00Um I mean, I I of course it's big plans. Yeah, yeah, we gotta get this bow. Yeah, I'd like to get some, you know. I was listening the other day to some guys talk on a podcast, and um, it was actually working class bow hunter guys. I'll listen to them all the time. And, you know, just about killing shit. Like you're not you, you know, a lot of us we hold on, we don't shoot does or or waiting on a big buck, but practice makes perfect.
SPEAKER_01Ohio guy. Yes. Yeah, I remember listening to two. He was he was telling like he just kept missing bucks or whatever, you hitting him high, and then he started talking about when he's finally started taking out some doughs, figuring out what he was doing.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, shooting dough. And the practice of it, you know.
SPEAKER_01And uh I think a 3D targeting on live animals a lot different.
SPEAKER_00I would love to kill two does early, have that you know, confidence build up going in, like when that buck's in front of me, he's going down.
SPEAKER_01You almost got me convinced now, too, that this is the biggest deer I've ever been able to hunt. And I I know I think you need to shoot one early, just get it out of the way. I think you're right. Just if just to get back into the groove of things and talk yourself through the shot and everything, I I think you're you're probably right.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, even though you've killed two studs in the last couple of years with no problem.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, see if we can do three years in a row of poking young deer.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, that'd be awesome. Yeah, but I I'm um like I said, I want to get some couple doughs on the ground, some meat in the freezer, and wait on uh I spent a lot of meat from last year.
SPEAKER_01I gotta I gotta start, I'll bring you some next time. I got a lot still. I have a lot. Yeah, we eat the shit out of it. I'm the only one in my family that eats it. Are you serious? No one else likes it.
SPEAKER_00I bet if you start mixing it in, people don't realize that's deer meat.
SPEAKER_01So they grew up like my mom grew up just making fried deer meat. That's all the only recipe they ever did. I've had them try some, like I try some off, like I made Euros the other day. I I made chicken pot pie. I I try anything. I watch uh you get on meat eaters YouTube, they got some wild recipes, and I'll get some like they had this like African antelope, and I'm like, but that looked good. So I tried it with deer, and it's awesome. You can go get so many recipes off that channel on the YouTube, it's awesome. Yeah. I make a lot of tacos. Well, dude, it was funny. Last year, um I don't like making stuff with like ground meat either. Like I I use cuts of meat and try.
SPEAKER_00Well, I would I was using I made deer chili, right? Yeah, and I took it to um I think it was a New Year's party. Yeah, maybe on New Year's Eve. So I made it and took it up there, and I'm like, I ain't gonna hopefully need nobody allergic to deer meat. If I ain't gonna tell them it's deer chili, everybody ate it. That's the best chili in the world. Yeah, I'm like, it's deer chili. I don't like deer. And I was like, well, you just ate deer chili and you didn't even know it was deer.
SPEAKER_01Put enough spices in and you can't tell. I didn't say my nieces come over and they always want chicken tenders, and they had a lot of turkey that summer when they'd come over. No one knew.
SPEAKER_00Yeah. Speaking of uh, you brought up uh meat eater. Did you see that podcast of him and Theo Vaughn? Oh man.
SPEAKER_01I was I was proud. Obviously, you guys know Lane and our passionate turkey enthusiast, and it was pretty I was proud of Steve sticking up for our feathered friends.
SPEAKER_00He did, he did.
SPEAKER_01He was not happy about the uh the turkeys. I don't know if you guys have you watched that episode of Theo and Waddell trying to shoot a turkey.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, well, I can't remember. So I watched one with I thought it was Theo Vaughn. It's Theo Vaughn and Caleb Presley.
SPEAKER_01Yes, yes, and I just remember they had Theo the shotgun, and he goes, So who's on the other team? And did something about like, do they have a gun or what color are we wearing? I just freaking hilarious. Oh, yeah.
SPEAKER_00Theo Vaughn, one of my oh he well, he's hilarious. And um the guy, the other guy is so serious. Yeah, you know, yeah, yeah, so so serious.
SPEAKER_01But well, um and it uh we're wrapping up. We're almost getting close to 30 minutes. That's a long episode for our HD people to try to remember. Guess we can wrap up this one. It's kind of in prompt to one just to get out before the season opened up.
SPEAKER_00So yeah, yeah. I think uh well, I want to wish everybody good luck. Um stay safe, stay yep, wear your harness.
SPEAKER_01Yep, definitely wear your harness. And uh if you're new to saddle hunting like Lane, make sure you don't know go test it out on opening day, figure it out before you get there. I I've been looking at Lane's here on his desk for the last three weeks, and I have no idea. Looks like a sex swing to me. I can't tell you. Oh god. Wait till you try one on, you'll I don't want to try it on. Nope, I'm done. I I like big platforms, you don't fall off them. Well, stay safe, everybody. We appreciate you listening, and uh we're excited to get more episodes out to you. So thank you all. Have a happy and successful opening day.