One Gang Worldwide: Why Authentic Community is the Future of Power Sports

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This interview with Sergey Tokman and Ben Bailey, the creators of Cycles Worldwide, a digital marketplace designed to bring transparency and equity to the powersports industry. The founders explain that their platform offers free classified listings to help smaller dealers and individual sellers compete against large conglomerates by establishing fair market pricing. Beyond commerce, the duo discusses their podcast, One Gang Worldwide, which they use to foster an inclusive community and share authentic stories from across the riding culture. The conversation highlights the technical development of their robust platform, including integrated financing and shipping options, as well as a social media wing for organizing events. The participants also reflect on their personal histories with motorcycling, emphasizing the importance of genuine connection and safety within the global riding community. Ultimately, Cycles Worldwide outlines a vision for a unified industry funnel that supports both the business success of local shops and the diverse interests of enthusiasts.

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One Gang Worldwide with Ben and Serge

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Hello, beautiful motorheads. It's Annick. What if there was a platform that allowed riders, dealers, builders, and businesses a fair and transparent place to connect? Today's guests, Sergey Tokman and Ben Bailey, are doing just that. Through their online platform, Cycles Worldwide, they have built a place that aims to bring fair market price for motorcycles and all power sports.

You may also know them from their motorcycle podcast called One Gang Worldwide. This episode of FéROCE, we dive into what it takes to build the vision, the men behind the mics, and how podcasting grows a community. 

 * INTRO *

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Welcome, Ben and Serge. It's a pleasure to have you guys on my show. I was recently on your podcast, One Gang Worldwide, and it was such a good time that I was like, "Man, I gotta have these guys on here."

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: W- we appreciate you for having us on too,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, it's weird being on the other side.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Jinx. 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: different [00:01:00] experience. And this is our first time doing, like, two hosts together, so a double, a double interview, which is,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Double

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: really fun.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: on a Monday.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yep, yep.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Let's do

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: So what made you guys decide to go into business together?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: You want me to start?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, you, you were the original, the OG Vision, so roll with it

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Um, basically, um, I've got about two and a half decades, uh, owning a power sports, uh, store, selling bikes, custom building, uh, service repair shop, so on and so on. Um, wanted to... Kind of started burning out with the employees and everything else, and as a small business just being squeezed out the last, like, seven, eight years and, uh, kind of just wanted to form something and build something to help smaller businesses be able to succeed in the power sports industry.

Um, there's a very large scale of, you know, big, uh, private equity firms, uh, dealership groups that are buying up a lot of these mom and pops and, and, and it's hurting the smaller businesses. So, I wanted to build a platform, marketplace, community, style type sales stuff for, um, for the industry to be able to help dealers not absorb any costs on advertising.

To, so we do do, uh, classifieds for free, so on and so on. Well, basically, we'll get into the story of the company after. But, I wanted to... I started looking into a couple of different, um... Came up with the name, came up with the, what, what I wanted to do. Now I needed the techni-technicality of this and, had a company in New York. Uh, I found a company here in Stuart, in our, our hometown, Flo-Florida here, and, there was another company, and I narrowed it down to New York and, and a local company here in Stuart. when I went and met with them, it was great 'cause it was face-to-face, it wasn't video. I went and met with them. you know, she told me basically they kind of a, a contract with this web development guy and, and she felt like, "You guys, I think will really click I'm gonna set you guys up and, and you c- you can have a conversation." And then basically that's what happened. So, uh, Ben and I touched base, and then, uh, basically he was going on vacation with his family to North Carolina, so we talked in N- while he was driving for probably a good solid hour, and just got a chance to kinda get to know each other. Uh, we never met face to face. Uh, got a chance to get to know each other a little bit. Like, I was kinda telling him the vision, what I was looking for to do. And one of the things I loved about him was the fact that, uh, he was, one, a gearhead, which was great. You know, a lot of the web people are into different things, but not, not into this, and you have to have a certain kind of aspect when you're creating a business and share same visions on certain things. And two was, is that he owned his own restaurant, so he had, uh... And I'll let him tell the story, but the fact that he was an entrepreneur, he understood how to grind, what it takes. It's, it's different when you work for somebody all the time and you're just receiving a paycheck, and, uh, to be able to give all your time for free, you know, you, you see the long-term vision.

But the first couple of years, you know, you're, you're working and grinding for nothing and, and you're trying to make, squeeze it in between everything else that you're doing. So I'll kinda let him take over from there and, uh, our introduction. So that was kind of the brief Reader's Digest version.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yep. uh, I, I am a nerd at heart, but one of the unicorns who has people skills on top of it. And s-

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: when we were doing

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: we had a digital marketing agency, and running that, we met this mutual friend. I helped them kind of find their wings and get their whole agency set up, and that's how Serge and I met. Um, and he just kinda gave me the vision of what he was doing, and it seemed it was a no-brainer. Um, the movement behind Cycles Worldwide, what we're creating, and the real vision, the priority is to help both dealers and consumers in the motorcycle industry. So it's, an exciting thing to do. I mean, I knew we would... I kind of was putting myself in the future a little bit, thinking about the people we'd meet, the events we'd go to, and man, it, it was just like, yeah, I absolutely wanna build something for myself, ourselves finally, 'cause I've spent so long, you know, a decade building stuff for everybody else. So the idea of us building and creating our own baby that we can grow and bring other people on and bless other people, that whole concept to me was just awesome, and it really started a mustard seed. The way that it has grown, um, the different concepts that we kind of, we, you know, banged our heads together in a good way and figured out which yeah.

We were

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: lot, man.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: figuring out new angles and, and, uh, you know, that's, those original conversations, that's where the idea for our podcast came up. Like, you know, it's we're, we're grassroots, we're bootstrapping this. How can we, number one, get exposure so people can get to know us, and number two, how can we

meet new people? And everybody knows podcasts are, are popular. It seems like everybody's uncle has one. Um, but we wanted to do it a little bit differently and, and essentially interview people and get their, their life story out into the world, and we've met some incredible people. Um, and through that, podcast is something that Serge and I love so much And it was just supposed to be a companion essentially for our main goal and main vision of Cycles Worldwide, and it's turned into something way more incredible.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: something in real quick? It's

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: I'm gonna tell you

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: of our first recording podcast,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: we still haven't released, but I'm thinking we should do the 150th show as that, because what we did was w- we had no idea. We're just two goofballs, you know, just trying to figure this thing out.

Just bought some equipment on Amazon, started-- So he came over my place, and I, I live out in the woods kind of, so it was a lot of, like, background. So we set up outside, and we started drinking beers and smoking cigars, and by the end of the podcast, we were drunk. think we went through, like, two or three cigars in the meantime, and then we were gonna pu- publish it as our first, like, introduction of ourselves. 'Cause, you know, we had nothing to talk about, so we basically just said, "Hey, why don't we just let the people in, introduce ourselves to the people, who we are, what we're doing, what the vision is, and so on and so on." And then when we watched it, uh, I don't even think I watched it. You watched it.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Mm-hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: And, and, and, uh, you watched it.

You're like, "Dude, we can't

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: this. We're drunk, man." I'm like, "All right."

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: It crept

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, I think you guys definitely need to do that as a-- Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: us.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Uh, you know, it's hard when you're starting to figure out like, uh, you know, what do, what do you talk about? What comes across as, uh, being okay and, you know, things are really funny when you're drunk.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: absolutely.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Definitely.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: think you should definitely incorporate that though in your 150th episode.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: people would really

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: You guys are getting close.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, it

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: the corner. I'm gonna have to cautiously go through that one.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah. 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: yeah. Yeah, exactly. Edit out all the really

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Uh-huh.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Well, it's a, it's a huge accomplishment actually to get to that many episodes because most people peter out around three or five episodes. Like you said, you know, it sounds like everybody's starting a podcast, but the reality is everybody starts them, but do they actually continue with them is a whole different thing.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: yeah. 

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Absolutely

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Oh, go ahead, go ahead. Sorry.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Cool. Well, I was ju-- I, I just wanted to kind of clarify a little bit because I, I know what Cycles Worldwide is, but how do, how... Can you maybe explain a little bit what exactly it is and

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yep.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: that the podcast is actually separate from that, but, you know, the support as you were saying?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: I, I'll

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: brief introduction, and technically Ben will kind of fill you in, um, more or, or your

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Uh, what Cycles Worldwide is it's a lead-generating platform w- that, that processes payments. Basically what we do is lot of these dealers who are struggling, you know, the power sports dealers right now, whether your motorcycles, boats, ATVs, UTVs, the industry after COVID basically almost died out, right?

So you had a lot of suffering with these stores. And the issues we're having, you know, me being one of these small businesses for two and a half decades, that I just The advertising costs that are absorbed to advertise your inventory and, and make sure that, you know, Google recognizes you, so you have to pay into Google and SEO, and then you have to pay into Cycle Trader, then you have to pay...

And then what, what happens is, is a lot of these guys, uh, and gals, you know, the store owners, I mean, you're absorbing five, sometimes eight, sometimes $10,000 or more in advertising costs monthly. Now you, you take in for, you know, you have your rent, you have employees that you have to take care of, you have to have, you, you, you have floor, uh, plan, uh, finance charges every single time that you're taking care of. It all adds up so expensive. And, and the minimal results that these guys are providing. So basically what all these dealers are doing is they're giving all their money to, uh, Cycle Trader. Cycle Trader uses that money to pay Google to get recognized in the searchable. So it's something that the dealers could pay themselves without even using all this stuff. So what we wanted to do was create a FREE classified platform both for dealers and consumers to be able to go to. And what that would do is that would create fair market value pricing, because now no longer is that 1% company that's dominating the search ranks, right? So when you're looking for a motorcycle, they come up through like the first 30 pages, and then mom and pop is down somewhere else.

So what we're, we're trying to build is kind of like an even playing field. What that will do is that will give the consumer a more fair market value pricing, right? Because now you can no longer out-charge somebody else, because if you're doing that, you're still showing up on the same rank on our platform.

So you're not being outspent, you're not being anything. So it's kind of like let the best company win scenario. So the- what that will do is give the consumer the best possible price for them to buy whatever they're looking to buy, whether it's- or any kind of machinery, or it's parts, gear, accessories, and so on.

So we're trying to really narrow it down and create a funnel for a one-place stop for not just shopping, jobs, um, you know, uh, shit, uh, business directories. Eventually, we're gonna have dating specific to, uh, the different groups like boating, motorcycles, you know, stuff like that, golfing, things like that.

So we're gonna d- do all this bunch of stuff, so it's really trips, trip planning, uh, booking hotels when you're on a motorcycle trip. We're gonna have, uh, and I'm gonna have Ben kinda chime in on the community section in a bit. But it's basically we're building a funnel, but yet on top of it, we're making everybody understand that if you're gonna be that very expensive place, you're not gonna survive with us.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Mm-hmm.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: In, in what way? Why?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Because what's gonna happen is, is that as you build a trusted platform, the consumer is gonna recognize that for years they've been taking advantage of certain dealers because these dealers outspend everybody else. So what they do with those advertising dollars is they put it into the price, right?

So now, all of a sudden, if you're looking for a boat or you're looking for a motorcycle and you put a search in and all of it, you know, let's say ABC Dealer is showing up on like every page, they're, they're the leaders, right? So anywhere you're looking

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you can only go to them. But with the Cycles Worldwide platform, if you're looking for something specific, you're gonna get every single dealer.

So let's say hypothetically you put in, know, a Honda CBR1000, all right? Let's just say, use that as an example.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Now, every dealer, every private consumer, and everybody basically who is selling that product will pop up, okay? Now, if you're that dealer that's been ripping everybody off, the rest of the dealers are gonna be at a normal market value price.

So the consumer's gonna go to them because, uh, what they can do from our site is they can get financed, they can get extended warrantied, they can get the bike shipped directly to them, and everything is fair market value price, and there is no price gouging because we monitor the pricing based on the outside world, and then we take the average and, and, and, and zip it down to what it should be compared to what market value they put it at.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay. Have you been getting any resistance or has there been any, um, barriers to entry?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Uh, as far as what?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: As far as you're putting this concept out, out there, right?

Uh, and it, it's amazing, you know, and especially in a industry that is not doing well, that this can actually make it, as you said, great for the consumers and, and for the also the smaller dealerships. Which you mentioned briefly that a lot of the dealerships are now starting to get bought out by larger conglomerates that are, you know, umbrella-ing like maybe like five or six dealerships underneath.

So I, I guess I would say like, is there... May- I don't know if we necessarily wanna go into this, but like...

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: is there like fight back from the, the 1% companies?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yes. Yes. That's exactly it.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you know what? They're a l- little bit more skeptical in regards to giving us their inventory. Uh, that we do have...

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: W- we, we're still on the second build-out stage, and I'm gonna let Ben talk more about what, what's going on now, [00:15:00] but, um, so

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: are some that are a little bit like w- they're not ready to give us their inventory where it costs them nothing, so it's basically free eyes. Uh, but

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: a lot of them are saying, "You know what? What do you have to lose? It's free." We provide them that platform. All the contact directly goes right back to them, right? So

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: part of the thing that What will be the drawback or what will be the biggest fight is the fact that we're not really chasing their F&I or, or what, or their extended warranty services, whatever it is.

What we're doing is, is we're giving our consumers that go through our platform a second, another opportunity, and what I mean by that, I'll explain it quickly and I'll get Ben, let Ben get into the technical side. Hypothetically speaking, right? This has been known throughout industry, and it's not just in the powersports industry.

It's in the auto industry, too. you know, Joe Schmoe goes a- and he applies for, uh, a loan through ABC Powersports. ABC Powersports, um, does his credit check, does the thing. Now, Joe Schmoe has got an excellent credit r- let, let's say he's qualifies for 6%. So what a lot of these companies have done in the past, these F&I companies with these dealerships, is because they struggle on the back end with the OEM low margin on return on new units, things of that nature. So they, they make their money off the F&I, right? Which is, uh, finance, um, Gap Insurance, all that stuff for anybody who's not sure what F&I is. What, what that does is, uh, let's say Joe Schmoe qualifies 6%. Now, this dealer can go, "Oh, congratulations, Joe Schmoe. Y- you qualified for 8%. That's excellent. We can get you in."

Now, that's 2% more than this person qualified for, and that's more money into the dealer's pocket illegally, right? Because,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: they utilize that money to make up for whatever money that they need to make up for. Now Joe Schmo knows that like, "Dude, what are you crazy? There's no way. I know I can do better than that."

They can go back into the cycle, Cycles Worldwide, um, homepage, click finance and do the same thing, shoots it out to multiple different companies, and he can get-- he or she can get the best rate possible and still buy that bike. So that keeps the dealers honest from ripping consumers off, right? But also gives consumers another opportunity, let's say if they don't feel good about the dealer themselves, but they still want the unit, right?

They still wanna buy that CBR, but they, we give them a different opportunity. Or if it's a consumer-to-consumer sale, which is probably 60 to 70% of the sales anyway, when a person buys from another person, we want to be able to make sure that the consumer that does that, they can go to Cycles Worldwide, put an extended warranty on the bike if they wanted to, right? To make sure that they get what, what they're buying is safe. If they wanna finance it, they can go directly through us. If they want it shipped, they can go directly through us. So what we wanna do is help the consumer get the best prices possible in everything that they do to purchase whatever powersport they wanna purchase, because what will happen is, is it'll keep people happy and honest, right?

So they'll be coming back because what happens when you get a bad taste in your mouth, you don't come back because you felt you got ripped off or whatever the case may be, and then you ride for a little bit or you ride your boat, then you sell it and you say, "Ah, screw it. You know, maybe I'll go take up tennis." You know what I'm

saying? So that's what we try to do. So 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Yeah. Okay

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Ben, I'm gonna, you-- why don't you tell us, tell, get into a little bit about the community, what we're building with the platform.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah. Uh, the community side is just what it sounds like. It's kind of a social media aspect of it, and that's a kind of a second wing of the marketplace where can post. You can treat it just like Facebook or Instagram or LinkedIn, and people can post, uh, you know, something that they're listing.

They can post one of their listings. They can post... They can create groups for, you know, say you're in Florida and you wanna get a riding group together and you got a few guys, but you'd love to grow that. You can create a group in the community, and you can your buddies, send a link, whatever, and then in that group you can actually manage all of your events. Uh, it's, it's pretty much, uh, all of the functionality you would find in Facebook or LinkedIn or these social media platforms, uh, all baked in right into Cycles Worldwide. pretty nifty.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Wow, this is a-- It's a really robust platform. I mean, there's

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I feel like you're building like a complete, you know, encom-- like you're encompassing the whole industry and like all the wants of like what riders need and want. You know, and you guys keep bringing up community, and one of your taglines is unite, ride, belong.

So why ha- why is community so important to you?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Ben go ahead, you go. I've been yapping.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: There's, uh... It's kind of a multifaceted answer, but one of the most important sides is from the outside looking at riding

culture, um, it, it can seem like it's a little cliquey. It can seem like there's a barrier of entry to a lot of people, and Hollywood has done a great job of, of misrepresenting that. Um, we want to bring everyone together. We wanna encourage everyone to ride, and that's where our, where the name for our podcast came from, One Gang. We wanna get people riding. That's the main priority here. We want the industry to be healthy, and one way to do that is to bring new riders in regardless of their age, regardless of their generation. So the concept there is We wanna reveal what the riding industry and riders are actually like and not how Hollywood has presented them to the world, and

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: that, um, expected barrier of entry that isn't really real, it's not reality. But get people riding and encourage them that, you know, this is a, an awesome community.

Go, go to an event and tell us you don't meet hundreds of just awesome, friendly people that just wanna talk about bikes

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah. And in addition, in

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: also where we don't-- We, you know, our, our society, we live in this segregated Harley here, Honda race bikes here, cafe bikes here. It's like we all ride. Who gives a shit, right? So it's like our vision is to not be that. Like, I belong to a lot of like the Facebook groups and the motorcycle just, and, and it's only more for learning, right?

It's not necessarily that I'm actively involved in any of them because I don't even have time. But, uh, I just see how sometimes when somebody asks a question and, and it's, it'll be somebody who's maybe new to, a new rider, and they ask a question like, "Hey, listen, uh, I'm not sure this is, the bike is doing this when I do this," or whatever the case may be. And like everybody

just like every people, every- almost everybody who chimes in is like something negative, something mean, you know what I mean? Like, and it, and it

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: the person

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: feeling good and learning how to, how, what to do. That's why, you know, when we talked and we had you on the podcast, I love what you were doing, is because you

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: interested in riding. So the way you're building your community on the outside is what we were trying to build on the inside, so people don't feel like they have to be segregated because they ride a Honda Rebel Or in the, in the other person's riding a Harley Davidson.

You know, it's just, it's just a bunch of bullshit. It's that macho egotism that we don't want part of our community. So, um, you know, as Ben was saying, it's, it's just bring everybody together, uh, way we can help, any way, you know, it, it can bring more interest into the industry. And going back to our podcast when you were saying, like, a lot of women don't follow motorcycle content, right?

We talked about

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: topic. But what if they feel comfortable in it? What if they're not getting,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you know, laughed at or, or, or whatever the case may be because of a, maybe of a simple question that they asked and now all of a sudden they're like, "I am never going into this group again." Like,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, mansplained. There's a term for it.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: right. So, so that's kind of, so that's kind of what we're trying to build community-wise. And

I'm gonna tell you, you know, anybody listening to this, it's not anything that we've really focused hard on, guys. Uh, our, our first initial vision was just to build a platform and get the classified section out.

The podcast has opened up a lot of doors for us. Uh, luck-

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: we've made some great contacts, great friends, um, you know, just as your co-host here on the other side. So, um, that's been fantastic. But right now, Ben and I are very, very hard at work. We are not only building out a platform that's gonna be very user-friendly, fast, informative, um, get you anything you need type of stuff, it's taken a little bit of time.

So cyclesworldwide.com right now is more of a business card with some classifieds on it. We don't have that

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: actually building 'cause we're on phase two. But,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: know, if you guys have anything you wanna sell, you wanna create your, a little store if you're selling it, do it now because when once we blow up, you're gonna be part of this growth, and we're never gonna charge you to put any classifieds on.

It's always gonna be free, and it's, the contact's always directly back to you. We're making a badass Craigslist, and if everybody remembers the Craigslist before the, the nuttiness and all that stuff that started

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you know, that's what we're doing. We're gonna create that type of a page that you can find anything you want, but it's power sports related only.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Excellent. How, how did you guys get into riding? You know, where, where did-- where was the genesis of all this?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Go ahead, Slick. You go on this one,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: me,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: I'll

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: out in the boonies in Virginia, so dirt bikes, that was [00:25:00] the, uh,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: go...

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: you know, the holy grail of awesome toys for the backyard and the woods. And I remember the first happy accident was, uh, my brother's best friend, they were moving, so he needed a place to, to keep his dirt bikes, and they just kinda stayed at our house.

So we, uh...

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Permanently?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: permanently, yeah. And they were, you know, we had

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: was a Honda

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: love it. Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: CR80 and a 125, um, just

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh. Oh,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: school bike that you could run through anything. And so I had two older brothers and we would... There were only two bikes though, so that was always, you know, rock, paper, scissors kinda thing. But that's where it started. And then one of my best friends on the planet, uh, I met him in middle school, and his dad, or I'm sorry, his uncle is actually a Harler- Harley dealer up in Pennsylvania, and, uh, he's always been into building since we were in middle school. The kid had a, a welder, you know, in his garage, and he was taking stuff apart and putting it back together.

And I remember the first chopper, um, I would go over there, it was five miles from my house, 'cause again, out in the boonies, but I'd ride my bike over there, and he was already, we-- before we could drive, he was chopping stuff up. And, uh, it was a '85, I think, an '85 Honda Shadow Um, that he

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: rebuilt and, you know, we were zipping around in the backwoods, on the backwoods roads, uh, on that thing, and I just, I fell in love.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: That's such a great upbringing. Like, you know, there-- every kid would love that, and, uh, well, even now as an adult, I would love that.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Definitely.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: a little different. I grew up in the streets of South Boston area, so we, we didn't have... We had the woods, but we had to get out there to do it. So, uh, first bike was a C70, uh, just ages me compared to these two young pups in front of me here. But, uh, my, my buddy Richie, uh, God rest his soul, he passed away, uh, from a drug overdose at a young age.

But him and I, he was a gearhead and, uh, my next door neighbor, couldn't get it started. He's like, "You want this thing?" And we, we took it in and we rebuilt it, and then we started building jumps, and we would jump in the C70 into the grass and smashing our skulls into everything you can possibly imagine. And, and slowly kind of graduated. Uh, he was more into dirt bikes. I didn't do too, too much in the dirt bike world, even though I rode them. Um, and then I got a Nighthawk. That was my first bike that I bought, I had to keep it at his house 'cause my parents would not let me, uh, ride a motorcycle. So I was, I was a little, I was a little punk, uh, showing up to school at 16 and a half, and I had, uh, my motorcycle, no license, and a, and a old bad tag that we kept changing the numbers on. Um, and uh, yeah, so that, that was kind of like the introduction to this thing. Uh, and then after that I took a little bit of break when I went, uh, after colle- I went to college um, I was playing hockey, so, uh, I, I d- wasn't really riding. And then I took like a small break in between. After I graduated, I worked corporate for a couple of years, then I moved to Florida at 27, that's when I picked it back up. So then I bought

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: a Suzuki Hayabusa and started cruising on that for a little while. then I was just like, you know, I'm like, "I love, I love this stuff. I miss it so much." Like, how can I make a living out of this? And I was s- I was still relatively young. I was approaching about 30 years old at the time, and I'm like, you know what?

I'm like, I wanna g- I wanna do something with this. I left a very high-paying, six-figure job in the corporate world. went, got my dealer's license, um, and bought my first bike off this guy who left a petcock on in the gas. And he had a brand-new bike. It had like 60 m- 60 or 70 miles on it, and he just paid like 10 grand for it, just let it sit there for about a year. So I grabbed it, cleaned out the carb, put it up on eBay. Boom, five grand profit. I'm like, "Ooh, okay. Might be something in this thing." So I just kinda started, like, I was like... I, and I remember one thing. I met this guy while I was getting my dealer license, and he had a successful dealer- multiple dealerships. And he said to me, and I'll never forget these words, uh, he said to me, "If you're gonna do this and you don't have, like, a storefront where you are, you know, location, location, location, but you're gonna do something anyway, specialize in something. Be known for something. Don't be all over the map like everybody else, 'cause then you're just gonna mix in with the crowd." So that made a lot of sense to me, so I said, "You know what? I'm gonna just specialize in one owner, under 5,000 mile Harley-Davidsons, and that's all I'm gonna buy and sell," right?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: at the time, and, um, you know, we, we had a house, and I bought like three or four bikes. Like I said, I, I made good money, so when I left corporate, I had a lot of money in the bank at that time.

So I just started buying bikes and putting them in my garage, and then I was putting up on, on eBay, 'cause at the time eBay was pretty killer. And, um, I was f- blowing 'em out to 2,500 here, 3,500 here, five grand here. I'm like, "Shit, you can really make a living out of this thing." So I outgrew my garage, and then I got a building.

Then I ended up getting a warehouse, you know, so I can set it up. Then I decided, like, started getting a great repor- um, reputation in the industry, uh, great online presence. I, I, I, I've got almost 5,000 sales on eBay with 100% rating. So everything was going really well, so I'm like, "All right. You know what?

Maybe time to expand. Let's get into custom building. Let's open up a big service and repair shop, um, and, and do it that way." So I, I started getting employees. Like, uh, I think that's when everything changed for me. Financially it was good, but my

passion went away because, not to knock anybody, right, uh, in, in regards to the industry, but a lot of mechanics, especially the old school mechanics, right? You know, and I'm, I'm talking old school. I'm 55, so I'm talking old school mechanics. Guys that, uh- roughly my age or older, all right, which is the g- very good, the good mechanics, most of them are cooked. You know, they're burnt out. This industry has taken a lot from them, and these are the guys that I'm hiring, right? So here I am trying to build a business, and we're starting to grow 'cause we built bikes for, you know, Dave Bautista and Jason Momoa. We built one for the state of Florida for the police department that commemorates, um, fallen officers. I mean, we've done some pretty incredible builds, and we're starting to get reputation.

We made American Iron magazine cover. I mean, we, the was moving in the right direction, and I was buil- so I'm taking everything that's coming in, and I'm reinvesting it back into these guys and my, my, you know, the team and everything else, and I'm always like, I'm a forward thinker, and these guys are more like punch in, punch out, right? So what happened was is it just got to the point where I knew that I was tapped. Like I hit the

ceiling. You know what I mean? Like there's, in business... But, but I bel- try to believe in more, you know, 'cause I try to believe in people, uh, that they do want more for themselves, especially when they have somebody who's reinvesting in their future. And, and I just realized that like financially I was draining, and I've reached that mountain right there.

This was my peak, and there was no going forward anymore, and that was right after COVID, right? Like COVID wa- we had a boost. Thankfully in Florida we were open like two weeks after, um, everything shut down. So, the motorcycle business took off, as everybody knows, you know. So we had a lot of people coming to the service and repair shop, buying bikes, all that stuff, wanting custom builds, so it was awesome. my passion was gone, like because I was just drained. I, I wasn't s- I didn't sleep for like five years. I w- I would say probably from like 2017 to like 2021-ish, almost 2022, probably were the hardest years of my life in regards to just stress and, and burnout and, and it wasn't because I didn't love what I was doing. It was because I realized that I surrounded myself with people that were just there. You know what I'm saying?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, that's-- it's a, uh... I'm glad that you're talking about this. I mean, I think a lot of small businesses struggle with this. Like a, a larger company can absorb people who aren't pulling their weight, right? It's the 80/20 rule, basically. I think 20% of the people do 80% of the work. Um, that's tough. But I, you know, I give you major kudos for deciding when it was the right time to pull the plug, 'cause most people would either let their health totally suffer, their relationship.

You know, like you can go down a really dark hole with that before people

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: me, I

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: decide to end things.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: dark hole.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: luckily I'm not a drinker or a, or a drug user, uh, but, uh, did stupid stuff and, um, it was a, it was a tough, it was a tough time, but it, it made me stronger as a human being and, and, um,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you know, and just i- in regards to life in itself, it's, you know, I'm, I'm still living through this.

We both are, because we're both not only build- trying to build a company on a global level, but we are also trying to... have to put food on the table. You know, he's got three young kids. Uh, my son is

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: involved in this and, uh, you know, one day we know it'll be worth it 'cause we see the light at the end of the tunnel, but it, it's a lot of work.

So it's just, you know, the, the most important thing I can say from this experience is the fact that, I love him like a brother. We never knew each other prior to starting this, you know? We, our paths never crossed, but he's believed in my vision and I believe in his vision, and we just work well together.

We have our fights like brothers, you know? We have our

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: It's hard to

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: where we, you know, 'cause I could be pretty intense, you know, because I'm, I'm always trying

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: tell.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, yeah. So I'm, I'm, I'm, I'm, I... We- we're, we're both visionaries. We're both visionaries, but

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you know, I'm a visionary and, and I get like, "Okay, let's go.

Let's go," you know? And, and he's like, "Okay." And so he's a good calm for me, too, because sometimes he's like, "Dude,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: chill." He's like, "Here's what we gotta get done first, then we go there." And it's not like we have a team of 30 that we can just bounce this shit off of

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Oh man,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: imagine.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: take the,

the brunt of it.

So, uh, so that's how basically

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: how it's working.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I appreciate you keeping it real, 'cause it is, it's great for people to see the behind the scenes and know what's actually going on, 'cause there's just so much with social media that, you know, creates the highlight reel that like, "Oh, you know, I wanna start a business, and, you know, overnight I'm a success because people like my...

like and subscribe."

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: That's not the reality.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: 100%.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: fr- far from it, man. It's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: uh, you know,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: most of the people who showcase themselves like they do, uh, they're, they're struggling. They're just not letting you know

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: They hide behind, uh, false pretenses. Uh,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: That's one thing I love that

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: the motorcycle industry, the power sports industry, is that people have really good BS sniffers. it seems to me, I could be wrong, but just from exploring what's going on in the industry and trying to keep my thumb on it. It seems like the most successful people are the ones, in, in this industry at least, are the ones who are authentic and genuine and don't just show the highlight reel, but talk about how, uh, this thing broke and I've been working on it for three weeks now and this stinks, but da, da, da, da.

It's the people that are showing the real, the real side of things that to me seem to be the most successful. Of course, you have the polished pages that are just pretty to look at that do well. But a lot of the guys, like I think of Cody Bowers, I think of a lot of the people that we've met, that people in this community really appreciate real, raw, genuine connection, and they can tell when people are being real and they can tell when people are full of it.

And that's one thing I, I love about this industry.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: and us being also small, like the other thing that, that for me kind of fits in with that is, uh, it's not that big. Like I always talk about we're all, you know, we're all related in some way. It's not six points of, uh, separation. It's probably one or two,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Bacon rule.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: you know, and that... Yeah. Yeah. And it's, it's amazing to me, and it...

That I find so much fun and exciting. You know, you, you guys have interviewed a lot of people, and what, who for each one of you is sorta like, "I really wanna interview this person," like this is, this is my dream person to interview motorcycle-wise?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: All right. So he just easily takes the cake because of what happened. It wasn't somebody that I was like, "I'm dying to interview this guy." That's like, there's Jay Dobbins, there's... There- That list is long for me. Um, we have one coming up that is really high on my list, but it's not, uh, it's not confirmed or to be public yet, so I'm gonna keep that one

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: the chest.

But, just the highlight for me, and I've mentioned it on other episodes, is, is JP, uh, Chief.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Willie.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: he started with, uh, he started Bikers Against Child Abuse, and all kinds of crazy political stuff happened. The episode is amazing, but he wound up passing away about two, three weeks after we filmed. And

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh, wow.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: done an episode.

He'd never done a podcast. He'd never given his story or told his story. He'd never documented any of that. And the fact that we got to do that with him, he was gracious enough to spend the time with us, and it was an hour and a half or something of him just...

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: hours, yeah

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, you know our show. We're interviewing.

We're just asking, getting

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: and, and it's not us chatting. And it was really cool, uh, for what it meant to his family to have that. You know, that's immortalized

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh, wow.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: online and on YouTube. And it's just, that, that was really, really fulfilling for me. That always just takes the cake of, of the difference that we made, just having something sentimental and special for that family to hold onto with Chief.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, and there was a lot

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Do you know...

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, there was a lot of

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: that

situation too, 'cause

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, the episode was great.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: and he was the founder, and

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh, really? Oh,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: grew

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: wow.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yep.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: a monstrous BACA. I don't know if you've seen it, but it's called BACA, B-A-C-A, Bikers Against Child Abuse.

And I mean, he was invited to the White House, uh, under, uh, George,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: That's awesome.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: for kids, you know, helping, um, with a lot of... I mean, they did a lot of great things. And then it w- like everything else, you know, the politics and the egos came into the group, and, and then he was ousted out because of some...

And, but he never got a chance, like Ben said, he never got a chance to tell that story to anybody.

And, 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: and, like, I mean, we had, like, 3, 4,000 views within, like, two or three days of the release. And it was like, "Holy shit,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Wow.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: darn good, man." And I mean, we're... Look, guys, we're, we're a nobody.

We're just a g- couple of guys just who love to hear stories about people from our industry, you know. We're not Joe Rogan on any of that crap. You know, for, for us, you know, y- we average about 1,000-plus downloads a week, so that's, to us, took a long time to do, you know what I mean? It, it just takes a long time to, to get anybody to, to pay attention.

So we've been fortunate enough, obviously, that, you know, people have believed in us and, and believed in the vision on what we're trying to get from the podcast. We're not self, It, it's, it's not about us. We just love to hear the journeys of people, you know, j- just like yourself here, th- this young lady in the screen, you know.

We had her on. So it just, to hear the journey of how all, all this passion comes in from the love of two wheels and then the community and then the people. I mean, that,

that's what it's all about. So I mean, we've had from CEOs to, you know, Jay D- like Jay Dobyns, who be- is great friend of ours now, and Jay Dobyns was the first ATF agent to penetrate the Hells Angels. I mean, he's got books and movies done about him, and he came on our show. And I mean, shit, I w- I was doing it in my, on the, on the back deck of my house, the podcast, and I had a banner hanging in back of me. I'm like, he coulda just said, like... And, and the funny thing, I, I... It's a funny story to this thing, right? 'Cause when I reached out to him, he probably was like, "Who?" You know? Like, "Who

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: All

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: He's a very private man and f- reasons being. So he was worried that maybe we are more of 1% pro over the 99%, right? So he, he wanted to make

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: like...

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Considering one gang, I got you.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: to

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: like, "Hey man, are these guys just gonna...

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: come on, these guys just gonna bash me, call me this, call me that," all that stuff. So, um, we, I told you, we built a motorcycle for the state of Florida called the Florida Memorial Police Motorcycle, and it's a 1940s version of a black and white old Harley

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: a cool bike.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: with, with, uh, on the saddle boxes we have bullet, bullet, uh, casings on the side. We had over close to 1,000 fallen officers for the state of Florida since 1843, I think, when they started recording it. So I sent him that video unveiling of the bike with the police department, with the news, all this. And then the next day he called me, he's like, "Hey." He felt better. He, he understood that like, I'm like, "Jay, I'm on your side, dude.

I don't, you know, I'm not, you know, to me, like, you know, you believe in what you wanna believe. If you're a 1%-er, great, happy for you, man." But I, I always rooted for the good guys, not the bad guys. So, uh, I, I was, it was good to hear his story 'cause I read all of his books, so I really followed him. So that was, to me, probably like, when I called Ben, I was like, "Dude, you ain't gonna believe

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: yes, and I'm like

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: He had just done Jon Bernthal.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: said, he said, "You sh- you switched Jay Dobbins and not another name

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: like him?"

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: He had just done Jon Bernthal's, uh, Real Ones podcast, you know, with like millions of views and, and craziness like that, and he, he said yes to a couple of, couple of schmucks.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: in their freaking picnic

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: with a banner hanging in

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: You never know. You just, you gotta g- gotta [00:44:00] make the ask.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: for

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Gotta make the ask. Yep, yep. So I, I ask everybody this, but how many motorcycles do you own?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Uh, I have, uh, I used to have more. I'm, I'm trying to kinda downsize. I don't even get a chance to really ride as much as I used to. Once in a great while I get out. Um, about seven or eight.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, we're

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: um, you know, my everyday riders. But it's all, it's more, um, I, I don't own a new Harley.

Um, I d- it's not that I don't like a new Harley, it's just that new Harley does nothing for me, the look of it, you know? It just looks like everything else out there. Uh, so I, I like more of the older bikes, the Evos, uh, the Shovels, uh, you know, even the Twin Cams. I, my favorite, my, m-my favorite bike I probably would say is my '07 CVO Springer. They only made them for three years and then, um- know, that's just a good, cool hot rod for me, and I, I, I, I don't know. I just, I, I like the old stuff. It just has that Harley feel to it. but I am starting to get very, very interested more in the enduro riding, and I'm really, like, I think my next purchase will probably be a bike that's on and off road. Even though I don't have a lot

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: experience, but I would like to be able to come off road to be able to enjoy that too. And as, as I get older, get, get away from the traffic and all the stuff and kinda ride back there is kinda cool too, so.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I like that. You had also mentioned earlier that you had had a Hayabusa, so have you gotten away from,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, I,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: more sport bikes and Japanese bikes?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: I... It's a great bike for y- that's a good bike for young people, man. Let me tell you. I get off that thing now, I... Like, a, a friend of mine has a, a CBR1000, uh, and we ride together, uh, my buddy Cal, and, uh, he's got multiple bikes, but he just loves sport bikes. And we switch off once in a while.

He'll take my Harley, and I'll take his CBR. I'll ride, like, 30 miles. I get off, I feel like I'm a, like an old lady with my hip all busted up. I'm like, "Oh, fuck." like, y- I mean, just that whole sitting position. I don't know, man. It's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: not

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: It was fun when I was in

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: late 20s, early 30s 'cause my body could take it, but I've been beat up over these last 20 years, so, uh, it just, it's not the same feel for me anymore.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: there's always a time and place.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: It's--

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Track, I would love to do it on the track.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: for me it's heartbreaking. I don't have anything right now. Thankfully, it's like a friend with a boat. I've got my brother, he's got a Nightster that I ride, and then I got Serge over here 15 minutes away with 27 bikes in his garage. So that's, that's nice. The next one I'm gonna get on though, I'm gonna get a Triumph Bonneville and turn it into a scrambler. currently my vision.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: That's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. I'd like, uh-- So this is why I like to ask this question, 'cause it's, you guys gave both very different answers, but it also kinda illustrates, like we go through different phases in life, right? So like you, th- sometimes you have a lot of bikes, sometimes you don't. Sometimes you're doing sports, sometimes you do.

So that's awesome. And, and the great thing about, uh, you know, the friends with the boats, you don't have to pay for the insurance and all the other stuff like the boats

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Exactly. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: a- what about you?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Just fill the tank up of gas.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: How many do you

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: r- right now I'm, I'm down to three,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: To

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: so

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Okay, and w- which

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: What do you have?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I, I have an, a Yamaha XT250, which is my daily rider. I have a, a Su- well, this is a four-wheeler, a Suzuki King Quad 450, old.

Uh, all my bikes are older. And then a 1973 Kawasaki S1

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Sweet.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: A '73

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Shit, that's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, the, yeah, the baby Mach 1 to me.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: hard to find nowadays 'cause they usually

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, it's cool.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: people crashing them, but...

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah . It's a...

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: the Widowmaker?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, it's the, it's the baby sister of the Widowmaker. So the Widowmaker was a 500. Yeah, it was a 500. This is a 250.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: the...

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: now I, I have it on just, it's up on a shelf in a warehouse in, or in the shop.

Um, but I'm, I'm actually, this is the year for me to buy a bike. I haven't decided what yet, so I've been trying to figure that out. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: what are you leaning... Like, do you have a couple that you're looking at?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Well, I'm on the fence about getting a, a totally modern bike or like a brand new bike, like 2026 or something. 

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: to have something reliable.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Or to go with, uh, in order to be able to afford it, a, uh, an older European sport bike

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Like what?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: well, I, you know, one of them popped up because I, you start looking at the pricing, as you guys know, 'cause you know all about the pricing of these bikes.

But I'm like shocked that, you know, some of the things that I always wanted, which was like an MV Agusta, right? Which is kind 

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: That's right. 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: to want to own that. Anyway, the Br- yeah, like a, a Brutale from 2007 just sold recently for like $5,000. You're like, "Oh."

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: What?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: used to seem so out of reach is now becoming affordable, where it's starting to change and be, I'm starting to think like, "Hmm, it's a space issue."

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I don't, I don't have a garage as well, so if I-- Which is probably a good thing, 'cause if I did it would, uh, they would probably multiply quickly

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: my current

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: And I get to test ride a lot of stuff, so

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: know, which

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Ben, I'm like in your camp.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: know which

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, 

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: if...

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: one I think I... I- if I don't go the enduro route, what I think I'm gonna do is I'm gonna sell maybe one of my custom bikes that I have.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Hmm.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: I'm looking to... I, I don't know, but I, I love the, the Rider ST that Harley's put out, you know.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh yeah, it's a cool bike. Yeah

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: it's a killer bike and, uh, I kn- I know that the Softail obviously doesn't ride like the Tourings in the Harley world.

We, we, I understand that. Uh, but I think, and, and just saying, like, it, it seems like a, like a fun bike that with a comfortable seat that you could really put

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: on, but yet maneuver it. It's nice and maneuverable. You can squeeze through, uh, thin areas compared to like the big baggers, uh, like the big Ultras and, and, and things of that nature.

So I, I'm really... I've been looking at them and, and the way the guy, these people are customizing them, they look really cool. I, I, I think

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: may be my next one if I do buy it.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I got to test ride one of those, and I-- One of the other things I really liked, well, it has the bags, which is great, and, uh, the other thing that I really liked is aesthetically, like you said you like some of the older... Like the visually, the way the older bikes look. To me, it's got that traditional Harley look, which, yeah, which I just, I, I thought, which it's just super handsome.

It's a great-- It's, it was, it was a fun ride and a good-looking bike.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you wanna drop

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: 60 or 70 Gs on a CVO, which is absolutely

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Insane.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: know.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: but

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yep.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: It's a

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: It's so expensive.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: but you can buy yourself,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: You can buy a, a Low Rider, you can buy a regular Road Glide and upgrade

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: to do the same exact thing, or even better for way cheaper money than that if you take it to

the right place to, to, uh, you know, soup it up, put a stage four on it, and, uh, you know, that'll cost you maybe about eight grand.

Uh, you can be in it for probably, uh, a- almost a, almost a new one, let's say a couple of year old Road Glide with a stage four for probably around like 30. I would say maybe about 30 grand, and you've got a bike that will blow that CVO out of the water. But it's the CVO,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: w- we'll, we'll add, we'll add another 40,000 on top of it.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: you mentioned

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Why not?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: XT250, that's another... I've

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: dual sports pretty hard too, just for what

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: be riding at this stage in life. I'm not taking any long

highway, you know, tours or anything. It'd be pretty sweet to hop on a dual sport.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: There, there's so many cool ones out there, but I s- I hear something, a common thread. Need to have two dual sports and an enduro. We can let's go. Go

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I know, right? Hey, Ben, when you-- Why do you wanna take the, the Bonneville and turn it into a Scrambler versus starting with a Scrambler?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Uh, fun That's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: 100%. Um, I

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: I

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: it, I wanna be hands-on and do it myself and make the choices and of see it evolve. There's something so satisfying about seeing something evolve into what... And, and also you can go, might have another idea and see how that can change the whole look of the bike just from one little thing, and realize that you fall in love with something else. I love the, uh, think it's Norton, they're doing this crazy twisty tie

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: It's like, you know, and thousands of dollars, but th- that thing is, they're pretty incredible.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: strong, man.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: got a chance...

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: saw them at, uh,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, you saw it. We saw them at the AIM Expo, yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: mean,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: It was kind 

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: out strong 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: It was good.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: those sport bikes. I mean, they were sick looking. Like, that was bad. Uh, like

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: MV was insane that they had

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Agreed.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: that they or, or r- whatever they called the, the pre-release bikes.

They... I mean, I was like, "Wow."

I'm looking at 

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: yes.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: "Damn, some really nice engineering."

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I thought that that was some of the best, uh, the best bikes that were at the show, and it was just nice to see something so different

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: we're-- everything else that's there.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: It's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: It's, it's, it's cool. Um, what I was gonna say is So you're s- you're talk- you said you're thinking about something new, but what, what are you thinking new?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Well, I'm-- this is where I'm, uh, I'm, uh, I'm going back and forth on, like, do I get a sport bike when- while I can still ride one or 

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: What, what about

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: or do I go... I,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I mean, a lot-- I'm considering that. A lot of them size-wise are-- can just be too big, especially if you start to weigh it with luggage and stuff like that. And it's more...

You know, I'm at a point where I, I feel like I don't need to prove anything by like, "Oh, I can get on this big bike," you know?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: yeah, yeah, of

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Which maybe when I was younger I would do that.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: be safe.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, I want something that's fun. Yeah, and just, just enjoy it and not have to work so hard. Like, I've ridden so many bikes over my lifetime that I've had to work so hard to ride and, uh, I'm kind of like, "Eh, I just wanna have fun."

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Right. Makes

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: thanks.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: This should be fun.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you know,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Let's

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: what's a very

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: go put some miles.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: touring bike, uh, in my

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: What?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: and one that I really look at from time to time, I, I'll, I'll check out like the marketplace or something like that, see what's out there, but the, mileage is a little high, is the Kawasaki, uh, Concours, the 1400. So if you get a chance,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. All right, I'll

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: No, if

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: a look. Yeah, it's on my radar.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: basically like the same, almost the same type of power and torque as a, as a Ninja 1400, which is the beast

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: but it's set up to tour. so you got the bags, you got the luggage in the back, but yet you have that performance of a sport bike with that, but you sit up more.

So you're not, y- you're not

leaning forward, you know. You can take this bike cross-country and, I mean, you got that ZX14 motor in it. I don't know if any of you guys have ever driven a, a ZX14 Ninja. That is the most insane whip there is. Like, I know that the Busas are cool

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Like 100

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: pounds of torque.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: but let me tell you something, you get on that 1400 ZX Ninja, wow. I, I used to look like

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I've only heard good things about it. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Bon Jovi hair, right? And then I rode the ZX14 and this is what

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: They flew off.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I love it. I love it. You guys are-- You're both fathers. Do your kids ride?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Mine are too young still, but they've been on,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: name it, in, in the woods.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: M-

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay, great.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: son's been on the back of my bike since he was four years old and, um, he, as soon as he turned 16 and a half, he got, went and got his motorcycle license, passed on the first try. I've ridden with him multiple times, and then he decided to rebel. Uh, moved in with his girlfriend at and, uh, my back like a fool, uh, goes out and, uh- Buys a brand-new CF Moto 675 sport bike without me even knowing, and not that I would give a shit, honestly, if he was honest with me, but, uh... So he ends up buying this bike, and about two weeks later, uh, he T-bones a, a truck cut out in front of him, and he almost died. So, um, almost died. He was airlifted to the hospital, and, uh, let me tell you something. For any parent out there or any friend who's got a friend, to get a phone call, and I, and I picked up the phone.

We just wrap- we were wrapping up a podcast, and I seen my phone kept ringing, and I didn't pick it up because we were just about to end, then I picked it up 'cause they called again, and they're saying, um, you know, uh, "It's your son," blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, "Yeah." I'm like... Uh, he's like, "Well, he's being airlifted to Longwood Medical Hospital." I'm like, "Are

you sure?" I go, "Yeah, he was in a motorcycle accident." I'm like, "My son doesn't own a motorcycle." um, you know, and he said, "Trust me, it's your son." You know, so

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: was probably the scariest freaking time of my life. Um, luckily,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: drive down to the hospital

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: a l- a long

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: really? Oh, man.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: at probably

about 120 miles an hour shooting down there at 95.

But, um, 

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: That

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: shattered his wrist, but the way he hit, and he had one of those cheap-ass China, uh, Amazon helmets. God he was wearing a helmet, but he had one of those cheap-ass China full-faced helmets. Um, and what happened was is that once he lunged and his face hit the truck, 'cause what happened was is, thank God he was doing about 30, 40 miles an hour and the truck was parked to the side.

All of a sudden, it decided to come out as he was passing through, so he hit the passenger door of a Dodge Ram, and his face went right into the... And what happened was is the helmet pushed so hard against his teeth that it busted a bunch of teeth, shattered, shattered his, uh, ripped his tongue. I mean, I, it did a lo- a lot of stuff, and, and he was knocked out cold. he doesn't even remember what happened as far as that's concerned. So, um, yeah, so to tell, go back to your question, my son

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: but he is only allowed to ride with me now, and that's it. And we were, we were talking the other day. I'm like, "You ready to get back on the bike with me only? Like, you ride beside me."

And, and he said, "Yeah." So I think I'm gonna get his feet wet back and, and get his confidence a little bit up and, and be, put a moral in it. I have a Dyna, uh, Fat Bob, and it's a nice, nice little smaller bike where you can

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Nice bike.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: have to, you know, it's not a screamer. You can just cruise and, and kinda get his sea legs back.

But, uh, you know, my, my vision is to one day, hopefully when he snaps out of this idiotic stage he's going through, is to, uh, do a cross-country trip with him. You know, I wanna do that with him. I've, I've always, it's been a dream of mine. I've been fortunate enough to do full cross-country trips all the way through Canada, back, and stuff like that.

So I want him to be able to experience what motorcycling's really all about. It's not the bar hopping or the showing off in front of your friends. It's, really seeing the world like, like a

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Mm-hmm. 

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: a bird, you know what I mean?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. That's quite the story. I mean, I'm, I'm glad that he's doing well, 'cause that could have gone a very different way.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Sorry to make that long-winded.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. No, no, I, it-- Those are the kind of stories you wanna share.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: That's reality. Again, like, that's not sugarcoating that this is a dangerous sport and things happen, and when we're of a certain age, we make decisions that maybe aren't the best.

Hopefully, we get through them.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah. Come out on the other side, man. I thank, I thank

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: upstairs every single day, man, because, uh, when I had that Hayabusa, know, be luckily been hands-on and know, know how to mess around with bikes that I, you know, would put nitrous on the bike, put the extended swing arm. And then, you know, I was just married at the time, and, uh, we haven't had Jake yet.

And, uh, I was meeting my buddy at, by the turnpike at, like, 1:00, 2:00 in the morning when we knew the highway would be wide open late at night. And, and then,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Right.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: I was living in Port St. Lucie at the time, so between the Port St. Lucie exit to the Jupiter exit for us is roughly about, if you're in a car, it's probably about 35, 35-ish, 40 minutes right around there to get from that exit, and we were doing that in basically about 18 minutes, you know, as far as timeframe.

Like we were trying to beat records every time we'd get on there.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Right.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: get there faster. So going back to the youth of hiding the bike from my parents and putting girls on the back of it and cruising around with no license and, and doing stupid shit, like I, I mean, I

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: every day.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh. I love it.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: You put

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: on the back?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yep.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: around the neighborhood?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: God. Oh,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, both,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I love that.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: them did.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Brings back memories being with my dad. That's awesome.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Well, it's good, Ben. I mean, despite hearing all these stories, I'm glad that you, uh, are still encouraging to have your children ride.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: are, you know, in

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. That's good.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: go like,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: "Boy, when you're young, you do s- dumb stuff."

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Well, and, and I was gonna also say, Serge, that, that, you know, you might be mad at your son, but he basically just did what you did growing up, so the apple doesn't fall far.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: he lived to

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: it.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Right.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh my goodness. Guys, it's been so much fun to have you on here.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: definitely has been awesome. Thanks. Thanks for having us.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Good.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Thanks for having

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah, no, I, I hope we do it again, and I hope to see you guys at the AIM Expo.

It's-- This year it's gonna be in your neck of the woods,

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Heck

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: or at least your state.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: We're

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yep.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you want,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: All right.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: to, um, and you wanna, uh, take a couple of extra days to chill, I've got an extra bike you can, you can, uh, you can use. We'll take you on a little clip around.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Hey, I love hearing that. I'm in.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: All

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Thank you.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Let's go. I should've done that when I went to California, and then later on I was like, "I don't know why I didn't extend it." You know? Stupid, so.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: when is, when is the expo normally on? In January?

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Uh, January, I think next year might be-- or this year might be in February.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Oh,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: It's somewhere around there, January, February.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Um,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: quote me on that.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: 2027.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yes. 

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: 3rd through 5th, so right at the beginning of

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh, we're both wrong.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: it's at the--

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: it's right there, but...

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: It's Orlando, uh, the Orange County Convention Center. I was just up there like a month

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: man. They-

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: would they have it right during bike... Well, I guess during bike week.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I think that's what they did. I think somebody mentioned that. I forgot about that, that they were butting it up with Bike Week, so people would just already be down there

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Ah, yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: got it. I got it. That's cool.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, it's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: skip over to Daytona from Orlando.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: How many, how, like how long? Two hours

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: No, not even.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: drive?

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: From, from

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Not even? Okay.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Daytona's about an hour and a half, I think,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: okay. That's easy.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: It is fif-

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Definitely easy.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: minutes.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, about an hour.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh, even better.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Unless

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: right, great. 

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: on a,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: going to Bikeway too.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, it depends what you're

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: 18 minutes.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah, 18 minutes. Do it in that. Whoof.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Is

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: that'd be

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: there anything you guys wanna share before we

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Last thing

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: sign off?

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: two-- We're only, uh, like two and a half, two hours south of Orlando, so it's not a

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: not a long drive down

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: No.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: around down in, uh, Palm Beach area. That could be fun.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay. That's even a beautiful area. Yes, definitely. I'm in. I'm in.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Let's go. That'll be aw- That'll be so fun.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: whatever, ATV, UTV related, it onto our marketplace, man. It's free, always free. Connections directly back to you. Just

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Craigslist, but better. And, uh, you know, that's, that's gonna help you guys.

Uh, you know, we, we have a targeted audience. We're not selling, you know, baby clothes and, and diapers and

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: So

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: So, I

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: that's

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: all really motorcycle stuff. So, uh, you [01:05:00] know, list with us. Help support us and, uh, we promise you we'll make it up to you guys.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: the,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: cyclesworldwide.com. Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: last thing to

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: got version two is what we've been calling it, but it's not really accurate. It's, it's an entire rebuild, um, that is going to-- It's, it's

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: That's close. That's

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: a web app. It's gonna be out of control cool. But we're going... That's gonna

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: really close. All right. Probably by the

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: us test all of that. But all of the existing current listings will be transferring over to the new platform. Um, so you guys are free to go ahead and, and go crazy and list whatever you wanna do. But we're s- we're stupid excited to get the new,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: platform out and launched.

It's a big deal.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Yeah.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: out, it'll only be like a

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Sweet.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: week or two, so that's fantastic. Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: right now, and it's not, not a,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: No.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: complaint. I'm ex- I'm so excited

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: uh, we're grinding around the clock just 'cause it's, it's super exciting. I can't wait

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: Hey, and I just wanna make a

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I'm...

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: I wanna make a plug to you

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: for doing what you're doing too. So, uh,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Oh.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: w- you know, anybody who knows you knows that you also work a full-time job, and then you

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: you juggle to continue with this, and you, you're constantly in the community, and you're always working to help others. So, you know, it's people like

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: It's the

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: bullshit because you're not flaunting this or not flaunting that. But it's,

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: community is much better because of you. So I just wanna let you know

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Aw.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: that we really appreciate

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: I appreciate that. That's really nice.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: truth.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Thank you. Thank you. Yeah, mutual s- respect, believe me.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Well, thank you.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: And, uh, we, we also have to make sure people watch your-- watch and listen to your podcast, so that is "One Gang Worldwide" on all the podcast platforms. Yep,

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: And, and

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: and on YouTube.

sergey-tokman_1_05-11-2026_111337: yeah, it's Cycles Worldwide.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: and you

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Yeah. All right. And I'll...

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Worldwide. It'll pop up for you.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: Okay.

And I'll make sure to put all that in the show notes so people can just click.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Awesome.

annick_1_05-11-2026_111338: You guys have a great day, and to everyone else, ride smart. Ciao.

ben_1_05-11-2026_111337: Ciao, ciao. Thank you

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