The Sonic Hitchhiker Podcast
Welcome to The Sonic Hitchhiker podcast !
This podcast is dedicated to all things strange , mysterious, unusual and out of the ordinary.
Billy Shadow is your host for this program .
Billy has traveled all over the United States and has led an interesting life .
His time in the ghettos , visiting prisoners , serving in the military , traveling the country while living in a bus , working as an electrical contractor for high profile celebrities, playing in bands ,
writing and performing music and much more . He has first hand experience in cult organizations and has had several supernatural encounters.
Because of his life , he brings a unique take to the subjects that will be discussed on this podcast .
Now based out of Atlanta , Ga
The Sonic Hitchhiker Podcast
Unraveling Mysteries: Shadows, Spirits, and Sleep
Family connections intertwine with ghostly tales in this engaging episode featuring Billy Shadow and his son, Aaron Johnson. They share both amusing and eerie stories from their lives, focusing on supernatural experiences, childhood fears stemming from horror movies, and their encounters with sleep paralysis.
• Exploration of a mysterious water incident in Billy's apartment
• Aaron recounts a similar paranormal encounter
• Discussion of favorite horror films and their impact
• Insights into the phenomenon of sleep paralysis
• Light-hearted banter reflecting familial bond and shared experiences
Hey everyone, it's producer David Fine, back here with you in the studio. Folks, this episode is epic. I just got finished editing and I couldn't stop laughing. Of course we had another Shadow Kid. Actually we had two Shadow Kids on this week. We had the youngest, levi. He dropped by, gave his two cents on some movies and some hauntings that he has been a part of at a young age, and we talked to Aaron Johnson. Of course, billy's other kid and rumor has it Billy's other kid is kind of jealous and jonesing to be on the program, so he will be on coming up very soon. Of course.
Speaker 1:I make my voice and presence known. Come to find out what my favorite movie is. It's a great episode that talks about uh hauntings, but we go off on a little tangents, on scary movies, on just different fun things. It's a it's a fun episode that you're definitely, definitely gonna laugh about. So, without further ado, mr announcer man, take it away.
Speaker 3:Welcome to the Sonic Hitchhiker Podcast dedicated to all things strange, mysterious and just plain out of the ordinary. Your guide on this audio odyssey is Billy Shadow. Billy's travels and experiences have led him to witness exorcisms, cult mind control events, ghosts and other supernatural phenomena. It is because of his interest in these experiences that this podcast was created. And now your host, billy Shadow.
Speaker 2:Welcome again to the Sonic Hitchhiker Podcast. I'm your host, billy Shadow, as the announcer said earlier, and today we have a very special guest, my son, aaron Johnson, joining us from Albany, georgia, and today we're going to get into probably a little bit of everything, of course, him being he being my son, we'll talk about maybe some things that we both can relate to as far as his childhood and my adulthood, and maybe some few scary stories in there. We're going to start off with letting aaron talk a little bit about himself. It's it's very strange to be on with my uh, he's my oldest son, by the way, aaron is. I have four, four children and he's the oldest son, and I have a daughter that is the actual oldest child of mine. Without, without further ado, I'm going to let Aaron tell us a little bit about himself, what he does down there in Albany and how excited he is to be on the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast. What do you think, aaron?
Speaker 4:I think asking me to tell you about myself is the worst thing in the world.
Speaker 1:Why.
Speaker 4:I don't know, I don't know. I don't know. If I asked you first of all, my name is Aaron. But if I asked you, tell me about yourself, what would you say?
Speaker 2:I would say I have an electrical company in Atlanta, georgia. I am also a singer-songwriter. I write my own music and I also play in bands from time to time, and have been doing that for a long time. On top of that, I also have this podcast, which I'm very proud of, with my producer, david Fine, here in Atlanta as well. And now today is a very special day for me because I am talking to you, my oldest son, which is very strange to have a podcast and then have your oldest son on. It's just very surreal. You never know where life is going to take you and it's always interesting to find out where it does take you. And now today, or tonight, it's taken me to talking to you on the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast.
Speaker 4:Well, you did a lot better job than I did.
Speaker 2:Did I? Well, I will say a little bit of something about Aaron. Aaron, I'm very proud of him. He is a manager of a car wash organization very nice car wash organization in Atlanta I mean in Albany, georgia, and a few other areas throughout Southwest Georgia that he manages and he does a very good job at it. He's very successful. He owns his own home, has a nice family, has bought into my life two grandchildren who I'm very proud of, and they are cute as a button. So if he won't talk about himself right away, I'll say that for him and I'm very excited to have him here.
Speaker 2:First of all, that we this is our second attempt as at a recording, because we did record a podcast with him not too long ago, as was announced on facebook, but we had some technical difficulties with the connection between us here in atlanta and between and with he there in Albany, georgia. But we have that straightened out tonight and so we're going to have a good time talking. And one thing we talked about the last time on the podcast was, as you know, as you listeners know, we like to talk about supernatural experiences on here, but we we will dive into some other topics related to paranormal, supernatural mind control. We're also going to have someone coming up while I'm while I'm on this subject. Uh, that's going to be talking about the relationship between the body and the mind when it comes to working out, when it comes to exercise, and how, uh, exercise in your physical body can be highly enhanced if you know how to use your mind correctly in accordance to your body. So we'll be talking about that in a future episode too. I can't wait to talk about that with a friend of mine who is also a great musician. But I want to talk to Aaron about something.
Speaker 2:We had talked this on our first attempt at a podcast episode together, where I had an experience with his mom and he remembers this because his mom has related, it has relayed this story to him as well uh, aaron's mom and I, when we were married, had not long been married, I had just come out of the military and we had gotten a very nice apartment in Americas, georgia. We were on the second floor and just to give you a reference to, or to give you an idea of, what this apartment was like and how secure it was it was a gated community, we were living in a second floor apartment and we had deadbolts and chains on the door, like most. You know, most apartments are pretty secure, and ours was no different. Well, one night we were in the bed asleep and woke up to the sound of water just rushing in the bathroom. We had a master bath right off of the bedroom and you could just hear water suddenly come on full blast, like someone was in there taking a shower. Well, as you can imagine, if you were in your home and you heard that and knew that no one else was in the house, you would automatically assume someone had broken into the house and was taking a shower or was just in there playing around in your bathroom, and it would. It would alert you, you would be on high alert.
Speaker 2:I didn't have a weapon other than a big bowie knife that I kept under my mattress at the time. I didn't have a. I had always had a gun, but I didn't have one at this part of my life. I just got in the military and had plenty of you know, plenty of gunplay there. So I got up and went to the bathroom, grabbed the knife, thinking I would find someone in the bathroom. There was no one in the bathroom, but the water in the tub was on full blast. I, I kid you, not hot water, cold water, they were just the water was just shooting out into the tub.
Speaker 2:Well, the first thing I did was go through the house. I was trying to find out if anyone was in the house, because I assumed someone had to turn it on. I looked through every closet, through the other bedroom, through the pantry. I looked everywhere. No one was in the house. The front door was still locked, the chain was still on, the windows were all locked, no one was in the house, but the water was on full blast in the bathroom.
Speaker 2:Now, to this day, I can't explain that. I I researched it at a library, local library, to see if maybe in the plumbing world some stuff like this happens. It does, but not like this. Water will come on barely, or it'll drip or it'll stream a little bit, but never full blast like these were. I remember staring at after I checked the house out. No one was there. I just went into the bathroom. The water was still on full blast and I remember hesitating to go touch the handles because it's just a strange thing to see and to um to experience. Finally I got the nerve to go touch the handles and they were on so tight that I had to really use strength to turn both faucets off.
Speaker 2:That was a strange event I've talked about in in the first episode that I've had and in the the announcer says that I've had several experiences in my life that I can't explain and we talked about a ghost that I three ghosts that I saw as a young child. That's the most intense thing that I've ever had happen to me. But the shower water coming on was another one that I to this day can't really explain. Never happened again.
Speaker 2:I wasn't afraid in that apartment. I didn't. I never felt any negative energy or any maliciousness from some spirit or anything there. It was just something that happened. It never happened again, so I let it go. But that was a. That was a strange story that happened with Aaron's mom and I when I was in I think yeah, I was in my early twenties. Aaron, have you ever had I know you, you relate a story about an apartment where something happened to you? Just tell me a, tell me a quick story some, because you were talking about in the episode that we weren't able to put on air that something happened to you in an apartment do you want to talk about that story now, or do you want to wait?
Speaker 4:I can talk about it a little bit okay uh, it's not as good as that one, but kind of similar okay I'll tell you two stories. I tried to tell you last time, but we know how it went, yep david, the producer, is laughing.
Speaker 2:He knows how it went it was. It's too bad, people won't hear that episode because it was funny maybe it'll'll be a.
Speaker 4:I see it Because of what happened last time when I told this story. I don't even want to tell it again.
Speaker 2:Why.
Speaker 4:It was kind of the same thing. I was texting somebody. I was in my room in our apartment by myself. I was on the opposite side of the bed. I had the master bedroom, so the bathroom was in my room. I was on the opposite side of the bed, I had the master bedroom, so the bathroom was in my room. I was on the opposite side of the bed, away from the bathroom. I heard what I thought was my e-cig at the time going off, so I was looking all over the room trying to find it. I got closer to the bathroom and opened the bathroom door and the sink was just turned on full blast. So that's kind of that's really all that happened. I don't know what happened. I didn't even go in the bathroom.
Speaker 2:Just one side like hot and cold, or just one side of it?
Speaker 4:It's one of those ones where it's just got the thing on top.
Speaker 2:Oh, just the one handle.
Speaker 4:Yeah, it was just on full blast. I had already known that story from that you just told, so it made me think about it your mom had told you that story before this happened to you.
Speaker 2:Isn't that weird that the same kind of the same thing happened to you that happened to us?
Speaker 4:kind of. But the part that you don't say you didn't say it last time either. At first was mama said that it's not like water boy my mama. Mama said uh, she said that if they were all like the hot water was so tight, like on so tight yeah that you couldn't barely turn it like it was. You had to, like, force it to turn off. That's right, that's correct. Yeah, I had to, really.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had to like force it to turn off.
Speaker 4:That's right, that's correct.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I had to really. Yeah, I had to. Really. Yeah, I mentioned that I really had to use my strength to turn them both. Both were tight, but the hot water seemed to be really tight. Yeah, to this day I can't. I can't explain it. I mean, maybe there's one out there that says, oh, that happens to people all the time, but I don't know how it could be on so tight that you had to really put a grip on it to turn it off. That I don't understand. So when you went to turn it off, was it really hard to turn off as well?
Speaker 4:No, no, just cut it off.
Speaker 2:But it was creepy. Yeah.
Speaker 4:Because I don't know why it was on, I don't know how it turned on. So at the time I just told myself, um, like maybe I went in there and subconsciously left it on and just forgot about it, and just didn't hear it and I don't know well, let me ask you this what do you think?
Speaker 2:what do you think about, uh, about your dad having a podcast, about this kind of stuff. How do you feel? About be, honest ghost yeah, about any of this podcast um, that depends.
Speaker 4:If you ask me now, not surprising. If you ask me 10 years ago, no, not 10 years ago, let's say when I was little definitely surprising what surprises me too.
Speaker 2:A lot of things right we weren't.
Speaker 4:We weren't allowed to watch scary movies or watch anything well, you were allowed later yeah later.
Speaker 2:very little we ended up watching I let you guys very movies, I think once we moved to, because we we lived in several places when you were, but when we moved to academy street in leesburg, ge, georgia, I definitely let you, especially you. Yeah, you, yeah, we watched scary movies. As a matter of fact, sleepy Hollow was one we watched a lot.
Speaker 4:That was the first scary movie you let us watch was Sleepy Hollow.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we watched that one quite a bit.
Speaker 4:And then yeah, darkness. Falls, I think was the next one.
Speaker 2:Darkness Falls.
Speaker 2:Yep, I'll let you guys watch that one I'll be honest, watching all those movies is probably why every time I go outside, I think well, I'll tell you what happened to me, uh, to your dad here, when, uh, when I was a man, I was probably, maybe I was 11 years old. I think my youngest son, levi, he's he's almost 11. So yeah, I was almost. I think I was around 11 years old. I grew up in Oklahoma. I lived there for a long time, but I grew up, also as a little kid, in Georgia, tennessee, and we, we, we, as we traveled all, we've lived a lot of places. We just lived a long time in Georgia, tennessee, and we, as we traveled all, we've lived a lot of places. We just lived a long time in Oklahoma. So I talk about that in Georgia more than anything else.
Speaker 2:However, for a very brief time, when I was a kid, my family and I lived in Edison, georgia, and we had this big house that used to be like a nursing home type thing and it was creepy enough as it was. I hated that house honestly. It was so creepy at night and in the bathroom because, you know, people died in there. You know, older people died, you know what I mean. It was like a nursing home and there were still like pictures of old residents living in the hallway. That net. Net was never taken down, which was even creepier. So to set the stage for what I'm about to tell you, the house is already was already. As an 11 year old it was already creepy enough to me, at night especially, and it had this long hallway, this old wooden hallway, and it creaked, everything creaked.
Speaker 2:But my dad was a member of the local video store and he would send me to get movies for him to bring back home for him to watch. And so they knew that I was coming to get movies for him. But they, so they knew that if I got rated r movies my dad approved I could bring him home. So they never questioned me like if I just my dad approved, I could bring them home. So they never questioned me Like if I just my dad would just give me some money and say, go get some movies, get this, this and this, and I would do it.
Speaker 2:But one day I wasn't feeling great. I stayed home from school. I think mom was. Mom was out doing something and dad was gone and I was all by myself. So I go down to the video store and decide I'm going to watch a scary movie. My dad wouldn't let me watch those scary movies like that. So I went down and said my dad wants me to get a scary movie. And they're like what do you want to get? I said you said to give me one.
Speaker 2:They gave me the Shining, which I had never seen, and that's probably for me that was one of the worst movies I could have seen as an 11-year-old in this old, creepy house by myself. But I watched it and I had I don't know if I'd say I had nightmares, but every time I would go in this bathroom at night to take a bath, because we didn't have, there wasn't a shower, it was just a giant bathtub in the middle of this big room. So I don't know if you've ever seen the Shining, but you have right, aaron room. So I don't know if you ever seen the shining, but you have right, aaron. Yeah, multiple times in the scene there is an old woman that comes out of the tub in this hotel room. That's all I could think about when I went in this bathroom. I couldn't close my eyes. If I washed my hair, I had to keep my eyes open because it scared me so much.
Speaker 2:But yeah, that was my first introduction to horror movies, really, and that was probably a good one to get on to. What's your favorite? Like that's, I would say, because of the music. I read the book. The book was really good, the Stephen King book, the Shining but that's in my top five horror movies of all time, that one for sure.
Speaker 2:I know there are a lot of great horror movies out there. I know we're on this subject now, which I love talking about horror movies with people anyway, and I know you've seen a lot of marin and I have, and we've seen a lot of them together too, but to me, for whatever reason, I've got to put sinister, the first one as my top, because that one, that one, actually gave me nightmares for real. That one I don't know why, but that well, I do know why, and ethan hawke, the actor in it, did such a good job of being afraid as his character that it resonated with me, but that was that one. I would, I would have to say, any movie that I would watch by myself. If I was in the dark watching a movie by myself, that one would still creep me out. The most Sinister. What about you? What would you say is your top horror movie?
Speaker 4:Well, my favorite horror movie is the Amityville Horror with Ryan Reynolds. Really it's not scary. It's not scary, but it's one of those movies. That's just I don't know. It's fun to watch. For me that's probably my favorite horror movie that's.
Speaker 2:That's a horror movie you could watch a lot yeah, and it's just a good movie to me.
Speaker 4:But as far as like being scary, uh depends if I'm talking, if I'm by myself yeah, imagine by yourself.
Speaker 2:Okay, here's the scenario, I don't have to imagine I've already had.
Speaker 4:Here's the scenario. I don't have to imagine I've already had here's the scenario.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you're in a house at night, by yourself, preferably. It's raining outside. That makes it even worse. What is a movie that you can't watch alone by yourself?
Speaker 4:there's multiple, multiple. So I'll tell you. I tried to watch when I lived in my apartment by myself. I could watch horror movies. It didn't bother me, I guess because there were some. You know, there's other people around.
Speaker 2:Right.
Speaker 4:It didn't bother me, but here I tried to watch. So Abby and the girls stayed at her dad's house. It's probably about a year and a half ago now. They went and stayed at her dad's house in Ashburn and I was here ashburn, and I was here by myself and I was like it was around halloween, so like I watch a horror movie, well, I tried to watch insidious and I literally got as far as the woman playing piano and that baby monitor is up there and she starts hearing like whispering and I cut it off that's.
Speaker 2:It's strange, because I'm that way too, I don't know why. Well, you just said it. You're right to me, because I live in an apartment, but I have people that live all around me. So something about having other people in the area even though they're not in your apartment, I guess it's the idea of the fact that you're not alone, really Like there are people. You can hear them walking upstairs, you can hear them next to you, you can hear them. So I guess that's what it is, because I'm the same way.
Speaker 2:If I'm in a house, especially a good size house, I don't know, it's just different. You house, I don't know, it's just different. You're actually, especially if everyone's gone, you're, you're really alone, there's no one else in the house, and then your imagination runs wild and then you start hearing things and you have to go down to the bathroom, you have to go to your bedroom, and you know it depends on what you're watching too. But some movies, the soundtrack alone, that's what did it with me with the shining. The soundtrack was enough to creep me out like I could close my eyes in the soundtrack. That that did.
Speaker 4:That really helped that movie to me um, yeah, that was a good soundtrack, sinister too sinister too, yeah and uh the way he says when he watches those tapes.
Speaker 2:So, folks, if you've never seen Sinister the music, whoever did the music score for that movie did a great job, because a lot of times in horror movies the music makes it. The movie can even be a little crappy, but if the music's great and it suits the movie, it changes everything. Then there are other movies that they get it totally wrong with the, with the score, the music score and the movie might've been really good with a better, better music score. But go ahead.
Speaker 4:I was going to say I'll tell you what made so when we first moved in here. This isn't like a story, this actually happened. I don't know why, but when we first moved in this house, for some reason and I don't know why, but when we first moved in this house, for some reason, I kept having dreams about like downstairs where I'm at right now, I don't know why like it was empty at the time, like it's got a couch and everything in here now, but it was just empty. But for some reason I kept having dreams about walking through the house and the first, I think the first dream I had. I walked, it was just all dark and I walked down here.
Speaker 4:I walked through the house and the first, I think the first dream I had. I walked, it was just all dark and I walked down here. I walked through the downstairs and opened the door and there was just a candle on the floor, like just this one little candle that was just lit. I had another dream that I was doing something upstairs and I heard like this loud, loud, like banging noise down here and I thought Abby was down here and it felt real. It didn't feel like a dream, so I, but I came down here and nobody was down here, so that's kind of what creeped me out about this house.
Speaker 4:Not creepy now, but then I don't know why, but I kept having those same dreams and it was always something to do with down here.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I just had a story come to me that I'll tell you that I maybe I've told you this before, but um, don't let me forget I know you're about to tell the story don't let me forget to tell you about sleep paralysis sleep.
Speaker 4:Go ahead, tell me now no, go ahead, I'll tell you afterwards now I was thinking when I this story just came to me.
Speaker 2:I said we lived in a lot of different places as a child. My family and I, we lived in Milton, florida, one time, for I don't know, maybe a year man. At this point I was probably seven, eight, I don't know, I was really young. But we lived in this old neighborhood and a friend of mine and this is not meant to be offensive, to blind people, by the way, at all. So so I apologize if it seems that way, but it's just you, I think you can appreciate this story but a friend of mine his mom had, she had I don't know if it was a deformity or what, but she had two glass eyes she had. She didn't have real eyeballs, her eyes were glass and she wore these glasses. But you know, the eyes they just were stationary, but she would wear these glasses to kind of cover them up. But she had glass eyes.
Speaker 2:And they had this little old house with a screen door and anytime I wanted to play with this kid, I would, you know, go knock on the screen door and we'd go in and then he'd come, we'd go out and play and his mom was super nice, dad, everyone was nice. But, as I say, the mom had these class eyes and one day I go to ask if my friend wanted to come outside and play. I knock on the screen door. No one comes, but the screen door is unlocked for some reason. I decided to, rudely, I should have not done this. I opened the screen door and I just walked in and I was going to call for my friend or see if he was in the room and there was this bathroom that they had right off the hallway and the door was open and it had a mirror there and not that she could see in the mirror, but for some reason she was at the bathroom mirror.
Speaker 2:His mom, her back was to me and I said his name right when I got to her, not realizing she was there. And when she turned around and looked at me she didn't have her eyes in, it was just black hollow. And you're talking about creepy. I turned around and, man, I'd never run so fast and I hated it because she couldn't. Obviously. No, not trying to be funny, but she couldn't see me. But she heard me and she knew I was in the house. David, stop laughing.
Speaker 3:David's laughing.
Speaker 1:Don't laugh.
Speaker 2:Don't laugh.
Speaker 4:I had to turn my phone away. I should have muted it because I was kind of laughing too. Come on, man, I'm not trying to be funny or anything, but she didn't have her eyes in because she couldn't see me. No, I'm saying.
Speaker 2:I know what my point is. You guys are making me laugh now. My point is she looked right at me. Obviously she couldn't see me, so I took off running. I know the screen door, I know she heard me running like really fast and the screen door closed and I know she knew why. Probably that I ran. But I will say this I sure never went back in that house without knocking again. That taught me a lesson. But man, that that was, that was like a horror movie thing for me as a kid. My god, that was she never even saw it coming.
Speaker 2:You guys are killing me. Okay, so now tell me your, tell me your sleep.
Speaker 4:Paralysis story I'm about to be like David. Fine, I don't know how I'm going to top that. Yeah, david, I will never forget that.
Speaker 1:Hey, at least your dad could see that coming.
Speaker 4:You're like Dermdoma, Dermdoma, you guys are juvenile I saw it coming.
Speaker 1:On with your story.
Speaker 2:On with the story. David said your sleep. Paralysis story.
Speaker 4:I got multiple. I can't remember, but I think Lee told you a story about our old friend Tyler.
Speaker 2:Yeah Lee, who was a guest on the show recently. Yeah Lee Welch.
Speaker 4:Yeah, he was telling you about tyler in that cottage he lived in, waking up out of nowhere screaming. It's a lot funnier than than he explained. It was actually hilarious. But he was having sleep paralysis, he just didn't know it.
Speaker 4:Um, but I've had sleep paralysis. I had it when I was little, when we slept in a laundry room way back in the day. Yeah, that was the first time I had it, but I didn't know what it was. Then I just I woke up and anybody who's had it knows how it feels. You wake up, you can see, but you can't move. You can't move your arms, you can't move your legs and it's kind of hard to breathe too.
Speaker 4:But when I lived in the apartment, in one of our apartments we had with Isaac and one of our other friends, I had it three days in a row. The first night I went to bed, woke up kind of the same as when I was little Opened my eyes, I couldn't breathe and you never know what's going on. You don't think this is sleep paralysis up kind of the same as when I was little open my eyes, I couldn't breathe, and you never know what's going on. You don't think this is sleep paralysis. What I do is try to. I'll try to wiggle my fingers and then, like I try to make a fist, and then eventually you'll be able to, like, wiggle your hands, you can get up.
Speaker 4:So the first night, nothing really crazy. I just open my eyes, I couldn't move, and eventually I can move. The second night, same thing, and it only happens when I sleep on my back. I fall asleep on my back. But the second night I woke up and it looked like you can't move your head either, but you can move your eyeballs, so I could move my eyeballs, and it looked like on one side of the ceiling the shadow was going across the ceiling to meet this. There was another shadow on the other side. It was going over there to that side. So that scared me. But I woke up from that. Well, the third night it happened. I had my head turned to the side and I woke up and couldn't move, but it looked like there was an old lady, like laying next to me.
Speaker 2:Oh Jesus.
Speaker 4:It was the creepiest thing. I tried to reach over and touch it. You can't move, obviously, so when I could and I come to, it was just a pillow, but it looked so like I don't know. It looked so real. It was crazy, and I still have sleep paralysis all the time. I just don't realize it until I wake up. It's never been that intense, though.
Speaker 2:I'm not sure I've ever had it. My youngest son, levi, is in the studio in the background. Levi, haven't you had sleep paralysis? You have.
Speaker 5:Try here, tell your story my story is um, I woke up. I woke up in like the maybe four or three am and I opened my eyes and my doors open and I feel. And then I felt I felt like I was being watched and I see some black figure in the doorway and then I just thought, okay, I might just be going crazy, so I go back to sleep. I tried to go back to sleep. Then, when I tried to go back to sleep, tried to go back to sleep, it just got closer and closer until I just had this big pressure on my chest and I couldn't move or anything and I just tried to sleep it off.
Speaker 2:Okay, that was a good speech, but could he move? Could you move Levi, could you move? He couldn't move. He said he couldn't move. He said he could wiggle a little bit. I've never had that. I don't know what that's like. I don't want to have that it's scary. Yeah, I don't want I don't want to not have control of, I mean, it's not the scariest part.
Speaker 4:So you can't move, obviously, but you also kind of feel like you can't breathe, like that's what's scary yeah, I don't like that.
Speaker 2:I don't think I'd want to have that feeling at all yeah, it's not fun.
Speaker 4:But they say, if you want it like, if you want to experience it, you get you like stay up for a long time and you get really, really tired and then you like fall asleep, sleeping on your back, and you can do something like you can induce sleep paralysis, but somehow I don't know why you would want to, unless you just want to see what it feels like. But you literally can't move.
Speaker 2:It's scary when I was in knoxville working doing electrical work. I worked for the union there for about a year and a half maybe and and we had to work in this really old it was like a hundred year old schoolhouse but it was huge, it was like a couple of levels and it was a very creepy looking place. And then we had to work at night because during the day they had school. Still, it was an elementary school. So I had this guy that worked on the crew named patrick, and he was one of these guys that believed in ghosts and you know, spirits and all this stuff. So he was always freaked out about it. He would never, he never wanted to work in a room by himself or any of that.
Speaker 2:But me being the I guess foreman, the job, I had to make sure that everyone was doing their job. And then one night I had to skip out early because I had to get up early the next day for a doctor's appointment. So I left. I may be getting his name wrong, it may not be Patrick, but I can't remember. It was a guy that was working there for the union. I was the foreman. So I told him. I said said you're gonna have to lock up, because to lock up you had to put a chain, you had to turn on the security, you had to put a chain on the door and put the padlock through it, and then you go home. But he swore one night that he saw something chasing him in there.
Speaker 2:And that night that I had to leave early, he swore that after I left and he was all by himself, something was after him in that school. He ended up dropping a lot of his tools down the hallway, actually running so hard toward the door. And I got a call the next day saying that there were electrical tools all over the hallway of this school. And it turns out he just thought something was chasing him and as he was running with this tool belt on, tools were falling out all over the floor, and so he swore to me that there was something. It didn't help that the lights they had, those lights that go off as you walk in front of them. The lights go off behind you like motion lights. So it was pitch black behind him as he was running. So it is kind of like a horror movie scene probably.
Speaker 2:But yeah, there's, there's some people that that really that have seen a lot more stuff than I ever have. But there's another experience that I'll talk about in another episode that to this day I don't understand, but for some reason I've had a few of these. I don't know if I'm just more open to it, and some people do seem to be open more to the supernatural, I guess, is what you would call it, except for David Fine producer.
Speaker 4:He's just where is david? He's right here from david all right, come on, david.
Speaker 2:You're gonna ask david some questions yeah okay uh, the floor is yours. Ask away this is david find, our producer, by the way. I think aaron's gonna question him.
Speaker 1:No one ever questions david, so I think aaron's gonna interview david of course, no one heard the unaired episode of the Sonic the Hedgehiker podcast, which may be coming to a maybe a paywall near you sometime soon. It is epic, it is. I mean, I have never seen Bill laugh this much in my entire life, since I've known him even a minute. And even Aaron, I mean, when you could hear him, he was really good. But Aaron, go ahead and question me.
Speaker 4:I want to know do you believe in ghosts?
Speaker 1:I do. I do believe in ghosts. In the last episode, which of course no one can hear, I told you about my story of my grandmother.
Speaker 4:Oh yeah, that's right.
Speaker 1:Every night she heard what she considered, I guess a party downstairs in her 1929 house that was built in 1929. That thing. She was scared, she did not want to go down there. I think this also happened to my mom. She grew up in the house and I have not heard it, but maybe it's because I'm just not, I don't know, evolved.
Speaker 2:You're not attuned.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm not that either. But yeah, I'm not, I'm not. But this is bringing back on post traumatic stress disorder. I don't know if you can get that from doing a podcast about the extrater. I can remember, but I have had family members that that have witnessed it, and I'm sure I've witnessed it, I'm sure I've done it in a like a dream or something, but I know nothing, nothing as much as you know the, the shadow, the shadow family. You know it's y'all. Y'all seem to have this aura. I mean, of course, the last episode that we were talking about that's got about 175 downloads. It's our number one episode until this one drops with Lee, and that was an amazing episode, of course. I mean all the guests have been amazing and your dad seems to attract a lot of great people on Facebook, instagram. So keep on keeping on. It'll make us the number one ghost spiritual afterlife podcast on iTunes.
Speaker 2:All right, what do you think about that, aaron? How do you like those apples you left?
Speaker 4:them Very professional David.
Speaker 2:Very professional. Okay, well, he is a producer of the show, okay, so he don't like horror movies.
Speaker 4:Well, he is a producer of the show, so okay, so he don't like horror movies. He's never seen a ghost.
Speaker 2:He doesn't like horror movies. Never seen a ghost.
Speaker 1:People who have but my nine year old son, who is in third grade, loves horror movies. We took him to see Beetlejuice, which I guess I would kind of a scary, horror-ish type of movie. He didn't get scared, everyone else got scared. I didn't get scared, of course, but he loved that. He loves squid games. I guess that's some kind of like genre. Oh geez, a weirdness. He did not watch the entire show, the entire movie. He got caught and he said I don't know what you're talking about, it was dad's fault, but he loves to be scared. So hopefully one day when this podcast is 10 years old, down the road we'll bring him on and he can talk about his ghost stories.
Speaker 2:Levi, come tell Aaron your favorite horror movie. Levi, I bet I can guess it. Come here. All right, my youngest son is here in the room and the studio with us too, so come on over here.
Speaker 4:I bet I can guess his favorite horror movie.
Speaker 2:My youngest son, Levi.
Speaker 5:My favorite horror movie is Scream.
Speaker 2:The first one.
Speaker 5:Yeah, I like the first one, yes.
Speaker 2:Oh, David's ripping on him. David said I thought you said scary movies.
Speaker 4:I'm not going to lie. I watched Scream for the first time in a long time just past Halloween. That movie is extremely cheesy. Like, still a good movie.
Speaker 2:It is a good movie. It's kind of campy you know what I mean by that. Like it's supposed to be kind of funny. It has a lot of funny stuff in it. It's not what I would call a. It's a horror movie. But it's not what. I'm the same. It doesn't really. It doesn't scare me.
Speaker 4:So what is David's favorite movie?
Speaker 2:Oh, now we're going to talk about just favorite movie. All right, what's your favorite movie or your favorite? Well, you say they don't scare you.
Speaker 1:so no, no, I'm talking about just regular like movie, like any movie my favorite movie of all time and I know you're way too young for this, but you may have watched it is the goonies. I watched that movie in the theater, as my son deacon would say, in the theater when it first came out in 1985 or 4. That to my, that to the date, is probably my favorite movie. Or Planes, trains and Automobiles with John Candy and Steve Martin. That's the Sonic the Hitchhiker podcast movie. Oh, sorry, the you know what. I'm just going to fire myself and I'm going to put an ad for a new producer up there on LinkedIn. Back to the old host, billy Shadow.
Speaker 4:He's not interested in talking today. Who?
Speaker 2:David, no, he's said a lot so far.
Speaker 4:Maybe I need to insult him. He'll grab that mic from me and start talking again.
Speaker 2:By the way, the Goonies is a good movie. I haven't seen that in forever.
Speaker 4:He's doing his hands, he he's saying come on with it, he wants to bring out his 20 years of uh commentating experience, by the way, he sent me a video.
Speaker 1:That was pretty cool. You look a lot different. It was also back in 1997, so I was 20 years old. So, uh, yeah, it's uh, you know almost almost uh, 29 years ago. You know, almost, uh, you're 30, correct 32 32. So you were. You know it's uh almost when you were born. So it was uh and your dad was. I think your dad was maybe in his mid-20s, but it was back in 1997. It was fun.
Speaker 2:Well, there you go. Any more questions for me or David, what questions do? Before we go, ask me a question that you want to ask me about, maybe the podcast or whatever, or tell me someone that you a certain kind of person you would like for us to have on the podcast, maybe I know exactly who you should have who um I want matt's dad, your friend, that's exactly what I was about to say.
Speaker 2:Yeah we need to. You need to get a petition going down there to get matt's dad on the part, because he's matt uh, matt is a friend of aaron's and isaac's, my sons, and he used to come to our house all the time when he was younger, when we lived in Leesburg, georgia, and his dad was an actual ghost hunter and did, I think, quite a few adventures doing that, I believe. So I really would like to talk to Matt's dad. So if you can put in a petition with matt and have him ask his dad, if he would do it, we'd love to have him on that would I'll bet he I'll bet he has some good stories to tell.
Speaker 4:We'd like to hear he used to show us pictures and and uh, I let you know they did the whole thing. They did the whole uh evp stuff and yeah, go around taking pictures and it's pretty cool I'm working on it.
Speaker 2:Of course it has to be. It's really hard, uh, they want to do it, but there's uh ghost hunters of atlanta um, trying to get one of those guys on and they've agreed to do it. It's just a matter of timing, and every time they can, I can't. Or every time they I can, they can't. So I'm also working on. I want to get a psychic to. Uh that's here in atlanta. She almost came on the show and then, uh, when she had to go out of town or something and I haven't, I've got to reach back out to her and see if I'm going to get her on here as well. But, um, she should be. If she's really good at her job, she should be able to tell me exactly the day she's planning on being here.
Speaker 4:She should be able to tell you exactly what you're going to say. The whole episode.
Speaker 2:She should answer the question before I ask. She's like no, I've never done that before, I haven't even asked the question. Damn, you're good. But anyway, thanks for being on, aaron for coming on the podcast, my son Aaron, everyone we thank him for being on here today and talking to us, and we had some fun talked about movies, talked about ghosts, talked about a few other things, even had my youngest son, levi, in the studio talking about a couple of items that he wanted to mention.
Speaker 4:And special guest. David Fine and special guest.
Speaker 2:David Fine, thank you for remembering our producer.
Speaker 1:I don't know why I'm waving. I mean, this is an audio-only podcast. I'm just waving like people. Bill, just you know. Can you get us out of this situation right now?
Speaker 2:All right, you want to take us out with the act, like the announcer Aaron, and take us out.
Speaker 4:I can't do it. Last time I did it, David insulted me. He said maybe we shouldn't pay the other guy, we should just pay you. And then rolled his eyes and was like, went back and got his wrestling stretchy pants on and with that.
Speaker 2:I'll let you I'll let both of you off the hook. Thanks, folks, for listening to another episode of the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast. We hope to see we'll be here next time. I started to say we hope to see you next time, but we're not video yet. One day, one day, we'll probably be video, but until then we will talk at you soon. I'm all off kilter, bye.
Speaker 3:That'll do it for another edition of the show. Join Billy shadow next week for another all new Sonic Hitchhiker podcast. Thanks for checking out the Sonic Hitchhiker podcast. Follow us on Instagram at Sonic Hitchhiker Podcast and get new episodes Wednesdays, wherever you get your podcasts.