The Gospel Twins Podcast
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The Gospel Twins Podcast
Kingdom Perspective on Angels: Understanding Heaven's Hierarchy
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Sean and John take listeners on a mind-expanding journey through the angelic realm, revealing the complex hierarchy and original purpose of angels in God's kingdom.
• Discussing the original nature of Lucifer as "the anointed cherub" before his fall
• Exploring the different classifications of angels including seraphim, cherubim, principalities, and powers
• Explaining how heaven operates as a vibrant city with activities, not just a nebulous spiritual realm
• Breaking down how humans have authority over angels and can "fire" or "hire" them through our words
• Revealing the story of the Watchers who abandoned their heavenly position to interact with mankind
• Sharing how our assignment on earth connects to angelic assistance
• Challenging the religious mindset that focuses solely on avoiding hell rather than fulfilling our kingdom purpose
• Emphasizing that earth was designed as an extension of heaven, not a separate, lesser realm
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Introduction to Gospel Twins
Speaker 1This is the Gospel Twins, with your hosts, sean and John, your go-to podcast for the kingdom perspective on current events and the good news God has for the culture. Get ready to renew your mind, one piece at a time.
Personal Loss and Condolences
Speaker 2People of God. People of God, welcome back to the Gospel Twins podcast, where you get your mind renewed piece by piece and episode by episode, and I am sean and I am john, and we are the gospel twins all right, bro man, slot on my chest. Man, I got a lot of things. I would just like to get out, hey man.
Speaker 3But this is what we do, man, get it, Get it off, get it off. Who Well first of all, what's the first I want to?
Speaker 2send out. Send my condolences to my wife and her family. She just lost her grandma.
Speaker 3Oh man, yeah she was was.
Speaker 2She was over 100 man, but she, she was, she was living, you know absolutely she had a. She had a terrible fall and, um, they don't know how long she had been, she didn't have the button to alert people that, uh, she had fallen, and so they don't know how long she was on the floor, and so she eventually passed away from her injuries from that fall, oh man. So, yeah, definitely our condolences yeah, so I just for sure, yes, so I had to wake up to that man and um, and I felt, bad for her man and even though you know you encourage her like she's in a better place, she's's not suffering and all that type of stuff, right, right.
Speaker 2I mean, I think she was 102, 103, maybe something like that Wow man. So yeah, and you know, alert, you know, yeah, yeah, so it was a blessing that my wife was able to see her grandma last summer you know, thinking that this was going to happen sooner, but she went down there and spent time with her grandma I think she was down there for a whole week and so that was a blessing. So she can lean on that for solace and remember how she saw her when she was last down there.
Speaker 3For sure, for sure, oh yeah, absolutely. Wow, wow, man Prayers man for your family. Sorry for that, yeah. Yeah, and man well man, what's up bro?
Speaker 2So I'm so I don't know if you have been in a situation where you just you just mind your business, doing your thing, you and your space For sure, and somebody hand you a phone and say in the middle of an argument, and then you want, then they want you to argument for them and oh yeah in this case, and I had no idea. I don't know what was going on. Only thing I know was like uh, I was arguing about the word christian and I'm like I'm just out here with my dogs.
Speaker 2man like Like, yeah, I don't know the context, but you know.
Speaker 3Yeah, for sure.
Faith Conversations Gone Wrong
Speaker 2And they going back and forth and screaming and and it's like nobody's going to learn anything through this. You can't and and nothing's going to sustain itself.
Speaker 3You know the seed, the seed is not going to get planted, it can't.
Speaker 2Right and it was just, it was just a mess man and I just felt real bad and I later said you know, told the person like you know, you got to catch the fish before you clean it, you know yeah.
Speaker 3Yeah, for sure.
Speaker 2And I got that from Joyce Myers.
Speaker 3She was in the situation.
Speaker 2Yeah, yeah, for sure, and I get that from Joyce Meyers. He was in the situation. Yeah, man for real. And yeah, you got to catch him before you claim him. And even though, and like even though you're telling the truth and you have the wisdom or I'm impart my wisdom to the situation it's not going to be heard because it's so much anger this time, and man for sure.
Speaker 3Yes, time's timing, absolutely.
Speaker 2And then also to sin this and that you're going to hell because that's like and that really triggered me. I can't stand that.
Speaker 3I know that did.
Speaker 2Oh, are you going to hell because you're doing this, or are you going to hell because you're doing that, Like I just come?
Speaker 3on Bro bro.
Speaker 2That's what we talking about sin, and who's living better than who? Oh?
Speaker 3my goodness man, Not the comparison boy, yeah. Paul said don't ever do that. That's not wise man.
Speaker 2Exactly. But it was hard to extract those scriptures and those principles in the middle of that time, oh man, yeah, for sure, for sure, and so it was a lot of things that come to me to answer, but I was like I kept giving the phone back. Like, I'm like.
Speaker 2I really can't add anything to it right now, because I'm not in the headspace right now yeah. Everybody's to cool down and absolutely, absolutely. And uh, just these christians out here, these uppity christians going around telling about sin and this and sin and that, and you have no authority. You have no authority to put anybody in heaven or hell.
Speaker 3Not at all.
Speaker 2Not at all. So you need to cut that out. Yeah, cut it, cut it out, Sure For sure. Everybody has something that you can say, but everybody's. You know. We all deserve this grace and mercy that that was given to us. And then we always get it. And we also need the chance to come around and and renew our minds.
Speaker 3Absolutely.
Speaker 2Everybody all these, and then like everybody in this country, in this country and this administration right now, just this, going after all these groups and like, who are you? Like, who are you? I mean, this is a land full of immigrants. So like, oh, this, this group is better than that group and we about to shut you down, we about to shut your history down and it's like it's so hot.
Speaker 2and I remember the first four years. It's like, and I remember and I'm not a biting fan at all but when he came in he was like it's time to turn the temperature down and we were able to do it for a little bit down. We were able to do it for a little bit, but it's back up, it's hot it is. These streets are hot right now.
Speaker 3They on fire. It is, man. Here's the thing. You know my stand. To me, this is actually a good time. The band-aids are ripped off, you know, the rugs are pulled back and we're in. The Lord has given another generation of opportunity to deal with this stuff once and for all it. You know, I I get it when Biden said come in and turn, let's turn the temperature down, because there was some other things that needed to have happened to be able to deal with. But this has to get dealt with once and for all. Man, without resolving this, we can't go forward as a nation, as a people, as a creation. I'll just use the word humanity, you know how I feel about that word, but anyway, as a people of humanity, man, we gotta, we gotta resolve these, these, bro.
Speaker 2I hear you, man, because we all image, we all see every one of us, every single one of us, and this is a hot topic. You know we got pride month going on, I'm like. But who are you to say that they can't provide for their families? You know, um, absolutely they have the right to feed their family.
Speaker 2They have a right to employment, you know, and civil rights, and so, just like you got to give them a chance, man, to come around and like, if you're going to sit there and say I'm a christian, why would they want to be a christian? Right if you're acting like that and like I mean, you're not right, you're not representing, having not resent representing the kingdom in a way to you want to draw people in, you know you want to be going there and loving.
Speaker 2You know, it's just like I don't go at work, I don't walk around with a Jesus t-shirts on or cross, so I don't do all of that. I, people who judge me by my conduct and bro, and I'm telling you, I, nobody, I don't go around saying I'm a Christian and I do this, and that I've had people just like, oh, make mistake, and cuss in front of me like, oh, my bad, and I've never said anything about that. I'm against that. You know what I'm saying? Absolutely I'm not cool with that but they just.
Speaker 3You're supposed to walk on eggshells around?
Speaker 2yeah, absolutely, but they just feel the need and respected to say that and I'm like wow, you know, god said. Well, you notice, I, I didn't say that word and I was like I said, I appreciate that, but you know um, you know I'm not I have no authority to put you in heaven. I'm not judging you absolutely not absolutely not but you need prayer and you want a good word. Uh, I come here, I'm here.
Speaker 3Absolutely, that is dude.
Jesus's Approach to Judgment
Speaker 2I mean you hate it bro man, because like because we saw jesus going at the pharisees and all the religious people man, but he was kicking it with the lady at the wells. He was kicking it, yes.
Speaker 3Yes, he was. They brought a woman to Christ and they said she was caught in the very act of adultery, meaning not only they having sex, you having sex, somebody was married in this situation and Jesus man just went after the people that brought her and then, when he got, went after them and dealt with them till they were all gone.
Speaker 3He stood up, man, and looked and saw everybody left. He said no one's left to condemn you. She said no one, Lord. He said neither do I condemn you. And look at what Jesus did. He didn't say, and you need to fall down before God right now and confess your sin. You need to come follow me for the rest of the day and stay at the altar of God.
Speaker 3He said go your way and sin no more. Just go your way, Let her go, bro. At that you know I always say, man, she still got the act, she still got the sex smell and everything on her. The shame of it.
Speaker 3They pulled her out of it, so it ain't like they let her get dressed and all that stuff. Man, to see the real Jesus in it. Man, it just it doesn't fit with modern day, quote unquote christianity. It just it really doesn't. It really doesn't. And um, that's, that's something. We gotta renew our minds.
Speaker 2Yes, and get out these buildings and just go around and influence people and influence them and love them Love on people.
Speaker 3Yes, you know, that's as you say man, buy the world a Coke and keep them company, bro, you know, even though I know you don't advocate for Coke, yeah.
Speaker 2You know the sentiment. Olipop there for me?
Speaker 3Yeah, a watermelon smoothie or something you know I'll pop there for me, yeah well, watermelon water.
Speaker 2Smoothie, so yeah, this is so annoying and it's like you can be a GC. J Jesus hung out with the short thief. You know what I'm saying. Yes, he did what to this crib?
Speaker 3Yes, he did so. I guess that's your boy.
Speaker 2That's my boy, you know, they say. They said he was short, I was like okay that's my man right there, I'm like okay, okay yeah, you know hey man, man, what are other scripts about? To show our people up in this piece? Let's go, we in this world too. That's it. That's it, man, that's good. But yeah, and I love that example. And Jesus, like, loved on him and went to his priest Like man. You know what?
Speaker 3I'm going to eat at your house tonight. Man y'all coming over to your crib, bro, yes sir. Tonight, man y'all coming over to your crib, bro, man, yes sir and he was laughing and I'm sure when everybody left.
Speaker 3Zyke is just like man, I ain't doing this, no more. That's it, bro. Just his presence, man of the fact that he loved on him, came to his crib want to eat wedding it. It just brought conviction. Just like the people that surround you, they curse. You never said anything. I never told you to stop cursing. Just your presence is supposed to bring a conviction and awareness of a person. Because why are you apologizing if you think that that language is just okay and any given? The thing is you recognize that it's no benefit to using that language and you know things that are profane.
Speaker 1You know, I don't mean no love in it, no, so it wasn't, you know, and that brought conviction.
Speaker 3So that's a blessing man, that is a blessing.
Speaker 2And we all know that the root emotion from cursing is anger.
Speaker 3You know, it comes from anger. You know, it does, it does.
Speaker 2So let's eradicate it, man. You can be angry, but don't sin.
Speaker 3Right, right, absolutely. You can give your vocabulary, or your ability to have a much more vast vocabulary is absolutely a benefit to you. Man, we don't always got to grab the profane words to try to communicate with, yeah because I was told oh, I'm just being real.
Speaker 2No, if I said that person over there is dying of a heart attack, does it make it less real by saying that? Or it's like, oh, he died from an MMR attack, right? Oh, that person's still dying from a heart attack. Regardless of how I describe it as a heart attack or a bleep bleep, bleep, bleep heart attack, but it's a heart attack and heart attacks are real. True that?
Speaker 3Very true, it speaks for itself. The severity of it speaks for itself. The severity of it speaks for itself.
Speaker 2Yes. So I was told like I'm being real, no, you're not being real.
Speaker 3Right, you're being excessive. Yes, and it's coming from a place of anger? Yeah, absolutely, it's unnecessary.
Speaker 2Ah, thank you, lord, yes just exhale bro eggs man ah but I love I love that passion man.
Speaker 3You know, bro, I love it.
Speaker 2Oh man, I think that's I just man. Thank you, I just thank you. I just got a hug. I just got a hug bro that.
Speaker 3Oh, hey man, hey man ain't nothing like a real time. Holy Spirit, hug, bro, oh, thank you, thank you, yeah, yeah yeah and I'll give you another one, since we on this topic. Your angel boys is there too? That they was part of that hug, for us too?
Speaker 2Yes, and I'm glad I'm waiting for you to elaborate on that too. Let's talk all about the Fallers, the Watchers.
Speaker 3Let's do it man, let's do it dude.
Speaker 2Woo, yes, sir man, I'm up here sipping on my coffee, just giving it out man. Go on, man go to pasture cares.
Speaker 3People got to see it in real time. Man cares out bro.
Speaker 2And I said this about custom. Don't get me wrong I've I've gotten, I've gotten angry, and you know who I know I'm not holier than thou man. No, not at all.
Speaker 3Not at all and have said it from a standpoint of joking where I wasn't really angry. Yeah, but but it's unnecessary language, man, it's, it is, it will it. In a lot of times it'll cause, you know, laughter or whatever man. But that's, that's temporal. You know what I mean. It's shock value, and I always tell my wife don't do anything for the joke, you know? Uh, that's what the script calls jesting. You know you're acting foolish to get laughs and and that's that's the stuff, man, that's a whole nother podcast right there, because people actually like what, what's up?
Speaker 2that's. I'm glad you say that, because that happened me man of thursday. I have this. I have this co-worker that was really cool name was barbie man. I love barbie and, um, we always you know, we always messing around with each other and stuff and joking, but she always on tick tock laughing. I said, well, since you're on tick tock laughing, I said, well, since you're on tick tock, I got a video for you and she likes prints right oh, okay, okay I sent her my prince video.
Speaker 2My prince uh uh. Unboxing of my prince figure.
Speaker 2Oh, okay, yeah, yeah and I was, for some reason she won't watch it. I was like she won't watch it. I I say you want to take that off? That's, the video is only like maybe five minutes long. You can't give me five minutes. And so I got to get. I got in front of her like I was a dentist. I was like you are like I'm pulling your teeth, and then I did this spin and I got on the ground like I was on my knees, bro, and she's like man because because she know my situation by my back she said right, right she said your back hurt later on.
Speaker 3Brother, she didn't speak at all.
Speaker 2You, man, my back, been hurting since Thursday, oh man, and so I felt good then man, and I felt bad, so I was kind of avoiding her man and they all know, she caught me limping man. She said oh see, see, oh my God, oh well, that's like you got around being silly now. Look, look at you, look at you, just lipid. Look at you, look at you, just lip it I couldn't do nothing.
Speaker 3But I couldn't do nothing but laugh. You know, that's like, that's all you can do, bro.
Speaker 2That's all you can now regret. I regret being. I'll regret justin. You know what's yeah right yeah, it's.
Speaker 3It's the reason that anything that God tells us not to do, bro, he is not doing it to try and ruin our good time. He's doing it to try and protect us, bro. You know, whether it be reputation or people thinking that you're foolish, you know what I mean or you know things like that. So it's always a reason why he's saying it, man, and we got to trust. We got to trust the process, bro. You got to trust the process.
Speaker 2So all right, brother, man, I'm ready for you teaching this morning.
Speaker 3Hey, man, let's get into it. Man, it's just the real deal, bro. Yeah, so you had a couple of questions you said you was gonna ask last week and you had it on to him.
Speaker 2I asked one of them but it was okay, I was looking at um, but yeah, it was pretty much you would. It was about the fallen angels. Oh, okay, and I want to know about them and yeah yeah.
Speaker 3So, yeah, man, you know what, man, one of the things that we just we need to do as part of mind renewal process should be foundational is that we have to realize, man, that this whole thing that we're part of man it's.
The Origin of Lucifer
Speaker 3It's a huge story that we came into the. It was already going long before we showed up and we got to recognize that there's a lot of stuff that took place that we didn't realize, we don't know, and until you realize that reality, man, it stops us from going forward. So I just want to say that, man, that you know these arguments that we're having new earth, old earth or whatever it's, it's. It's not even a it's, it's. It's not even wise to have that debate. The part that we came into was a new earth, it was a renewed one. But we came into this planet, man, where it was already so much stuff it took place before we got here. It, it didn't start with us. So when we recognize that, man, it actually will catapult us into a whole nother level of understanding and revelation. At least open our mind up to it. So you were talking about the falling, but before we get there, let's just do a quick summary at the beginning man. You know, when the scripture says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth, that when the scripture says in the beginning God created the heaven and the earth, that is our heaven and earth, the one that we were getting prepared to be a partaker of. But it lets you know in the beginning God was obviously for it to say, in the beginning he's starting something, so he was already here. And if God is already here, there's already a whole lot of other stuff going on too. So when we recognize that man, we can, we can really really begin to to understand a whole, whole gamut of the things that we have to realize.
Speaker 3Man is that the Lucifer, and was someone who we now call Satan, was someone who was beloved of God. We don't talk we, we talk about the devil so much because we only know him as such, but God had a relationship with this angel that was so profound and so beloved of him that we need to acknowledge that reality. Man, god loved this angel Lucifer. I mean he's named yes, that's a Latin translation of his name, but his name was Halal. It means son of the morning, son of the morning man. It literally means this dude, his essence was nothing but light. He was a luminary like no other.
Speaker 3And when you read in ezekiel, you know 28, when it talks about him and him being the anointed. The anointed cherub that covers it speaks of so much um glory that he had. I mean, it says that he was perfect from the day he was created, meaning that everything he god. There was no development with this angel, there was no potential. He was fully self-realized when he was created.
Speaker 3From that day of his creation he was, it said, he was full of wisdom, perfect in beauty. I mean there was nothing that could be added to this dude. God had him laced up, man, with all of the glory that he could muster for this angel dude, and then anointed him above the other cherubs that were already created, and so he's just coming into the picture, just set up. You know what I mean. So we have to unsee this dude for who he was in the beginning to really understand the level of the magnitude of the fall that took place when he fell. And it said that he. It said that he was the sum of all things. When the scripture says in Ezekiel that after he had, you know, iniquity, iniquity was found in him. It said that and he sealed up the sum. That means. That phrase in Hebrews mean you are no longer worthy of imitation, of being followed. You know, he was the quintessential role model and it was a reason why God made him that way.
Speaker 3He made him that way because, yes, he was in charge and delegated authority in the earth because the scripture literally says his throne was in the earth and he was governing this, this planet man, he was ruling, and it said that he, he sat on a throne because obviously, and when you read in isaiah 14, he said he would exalt his throne above the throne of god, you know, so the most high. So to say you're going to exalt your throne, you have to have one. So he has, he had a throne. It said that he walked amidst the stones of fire, that that is a whole elite group of angelic beings, the stones of fire, which he had, the. He wasn't as elevated in authority as them in creation, but in his promotion of being the anointed cherub, he was able to walk among them. That's just like somebody having a lesser authority that can come in the room with the most confidential stuff. That's going on because of the relationship they have with the boss. You know, it's like being like why is he here, you know, and it's look if you can say it, and it's look if you can say it in front of me, you can say it in front of him. Because he was the anointed chair. That covers that mean he, he covered the throne of god. So when, when the stones of fire and the council of god would meet.
Speaker 3It wasn't like he didn't have to leave. You know what I mean. It was like he didn't have to exit and and we have to begin to look at the kingdom of god like it was a kingdom just like now, like it's people that that come in among us and there's certain people will say like, well, you, you know, can you give us a minute? You know it's because it's something that's getting ready to be discussed that you don't have, you know, the access to or the authority to hear, so I'm gonna actually leave the room. He never had to leave the room, bro. It said he walked amidst the stones of fire that mean he, he, he could go in and out among them without permission. It said he was clothed in every precious stone. That means he had stones on him that other people didn't have. You know, it's like who is this dude man?
Speaker 3yeah yeah you know like what is what? Why did god make him like that? But when you realize how things were set up in the kingdom and god's eternal purpose, when it said in ephesians said that we were part of god's, god's workmanship in his mind from the beginning, before anything ever, his children, us, he set them all up man, thrones, dominions, different angels at different angelic classes. They were set up as regents in the earth, basically holding it down. A regent is somebody who holds the seat unto the person, people who are destined for that seat, or has the true authority come along. So they were all running these things in the earth, holding these places of authority and rulership until the children come. And we were the ones that were coming.
Speaker 3And Lucifer bro, when he has now he don't ever have to leave, he always can be in on the conversation. So when it says in the beginning God created, it says Elohim. Elohim is a class of angels that were called sons of God, the benignhim that in heaven that were called the sons of God. And when he says let us make man after our image and likeness, people only think about the Trinity, but he's saying after the Elohim, which are the ones who were considered the sons of God in heaven, so it wasn't just God, are the ones who were considered the sons of God in heaven.
Speaker 3So it wasn't just God and it was in the image, because Elohim are the creative angels, the ones that can create, and this thing is is so far reaching, bro. So far reaching. Go ahead please.
Speaker 2If you talk about Christopher was a cherub, so far reaching, go ahead, please. You're talking about Lucifer was a cherub, the anointed cherub. There's an order, though there's a pecking order. Aren't seraphims higher than cherubins? They?
Speaker 3are? They are, of course, from what we can tell, they are the cherubims, just in their name. You know the cherubims are the ones who protect the glory. They filter the glory, they screen it. You know they are the ones, just like people. You know people have somebody to screen their calls, make sure it's important enough, you know, to get to me or whatever, and all of that, the cherubim occupied that space. And so when you see, even when you see the mercy seat that's made over the, the Ark of the Covenant that Moses and I had showed, the two angels that are stretched towards each other and their wings touch each other from both sides, they're protecting the ark of the coven, they covering the glory that was in the ark, that's. Those cherubs are over the, the seed of god, the mercy seat of god in heaven, and they just protect his glory. Man, they screening you, everybody.
Speaker 3Do people realize that God is the king of all creation? Bro, you know, everything that's going on in the universe does not deserve an audience with God. And and that's what we, you don't just like when God told him, when Moses was trying to handle everything and and then, uh, moses father-in-law told him like man, look, you're going to kill yourself trying to do all this. You need to set up people that can listen to arguments and only the important ones come to you that they can't settle. Well, that's an order that they set up. Because God's order is set up that way. It's not that it can kill God or hurt him. He's just the he's. He's Yahweh man. He's the most high god. The reason why he's called the most high god is because there are other gods. There are other ones, and gods just mean those who are put in positions of of to to be magistrates over. You know different things, different orders, different. You know things that have to happen and events, and they all have their own specific wisdoms and and and and skill sets.
Speaker 3And it's the way you see us. That's how heaven is operating. It is operating that way and barring the crime, not that crimes aren't committed in heaven. Apparently they are, because this is Lucifer fell and the rebellion started in heaven. So people got to stop thinking that, because God is the one that's in charge of heaven, he's governing everything with his wisdom and his power and his might, because everyone in heaven has a free will, just like we do. So everybody doesn't agree with everything that Yahweh says but he, but they recognize he's king and when he's, when the king speaks, you must do what the king says you. The king's decree is law. It's not like ours. We don't vote on laws when you're under a king see, man.
Speaker 2That's how I appreciate you, because I've been in church and been man. Nobody teaches on that man, except uh, you know what sucks the kingdom people. Oh, come on, I'm loving this. One more question before you finish. When you were talking about the cherubim and you was describing them with the wings, so it made me think about Raiders of the Lost Ark. You know that scene I'm talking about, when they open the Ark. So those were the cherubims that was flying around.
Speaker 3Yes, those are cherubim.
Speaker 2Those are cherubim man. You're going to make me want to watch that movie later.
Speaker 3Dude, those are 100%, absolutely. Cherubim and seraphim are more. They look like fire, more like flames, and the thing is, it's just like us. There are different classifications and ethnic all of the. The thing is is just like us. You know, there are different classifications and ethnicities of angels, just like there are of us, but when you? But we're all man, so we're all mankind, whether it's female man or male man, we're still man, all of us. Let us make man in our image and likeness, so we call every being in heaven angels. But there are different classifications, there are different ranks and orders, and heaven is a planet with cities, just like earth.
Speaker 3Earth is the child of heaven, it's, it's the extension. Heaven is the parent planet in our dimension. Earth is, it was intended and is intended and will be the not duplicate of heaven, the extension of it into the physical realm. That's why the same kingdom of god that governs heaven, same kingdom of God that governs heaven, we're supposed to be praying and implementing it down here in earth or down, I don't even like to say like cause. Down, make it seem like heaven's way up, and earth is way. It's just dimensionally separated, that's just the spirit dimension. They're the invisible, we're the visible.
Speaker 2And when I looked it up, it up um, that's not the question that asks what are the different kinds of angels? So it's, it gives the order of seraphim, cherubim thrones, dominions, virtues, right, powers, principalities, yep archangel and angels.
Speaker 3Yes, angels will be considered just like the civilians. Yeah, everybody's not part of the government in the earth. Everybody don't have a government seat. You know, like right now, man, I got a cousin, you know his name is Michael White and he's running for state Senate. Bro, he's running for that seat. He's a citizen right now, but he's looking to become a part of the government. That's going to be part of making rules, you know, and laws for us to live by. Everyone is not a part of the government. You're, everyone's a part of the, the government of god, as being under the kingdom of the of that government. But everybody's not occupying a governing seat.
Speaker 3Yeah, in heaven, there are civilian angels in heaven. That's just living life, bro, you know, loving each other, visiting each other. Everybody, everyone in heaven don't know each other. They get to know each other no more than any of us know everybody on the planet. People just think everybody in heaven just know All the angels know each other. They all know each other by name. No, they don't. They get to know each other.
Speaker 3There are angels that are still being created, man, that are still being born what, how, whatever language you want to use because there's an angel that's assigned to every human that's born. So did god make all the angels in advance before, did he? I don't know? Or are they being created as we're creating, as we're procreating here? He's pre-creating there. You know, things are still happening. Heaven is vibrant, it's bustling with activity. There are buildings in heaven, there's things going on. Gold is produced in heaven, lucifer one of his.
Speaker 3When you read in Ezekiel, it said the Lord said you defiled your sanctuaries. Plural Sanctuaries doesn't mean set aside buildings. It's not churchy, it just means that it's sanctified for a specific use. You work at a sanctuary called Ford Motor Company. It's set aside for producing automobiles. You don't produce food at Ford. There's another sanctuary that does that. That's called whatever. Whatever the grocery store, whatever.
Speaker 3People manufacture the food and all that. And then there's people that go out and catch the stuff and there's people that grows it. We have so much commerce that's happening here that we don't even think about it because we're just used to it, because we just see it when it's packaged and ready for us to get it. But do you know how much stuff is going on? You know how many people spending years growing the vegetables and everything that we eating and all of that stuff and people just think that because you know, just, god just speaks the word and just says food and it's just all over the place. You know it doesn't man? Oh my god. This is. This is why it's so important for us to actually have a relationship with the father that can actually communicate these realities to us. And it's written right in the book. But when you have men that take it and make it just a religious thing and it loses all of its vitality and everything it's just, it loses all of the meaning and all you see in it is either righteousness or unrighteousness.
Speaker 3And the way that you see it, not the way that God sees it, the way that we see it good and bad. It's no other conversation, it's just you're either doing this or you're doing that. You know you're against God's will. He hates you and he gonna send you to hell.
Speaker 2This is black man, I know man, could you speak? Just like imagine just watching your kids and, just like man, I'm just waiting for you to mess up. So I can sit, so I can send you to jail, just right, oh man, so I can. Just, man, I love you though, but I'm just waiting for you to mess up so I can see you. I'm telling you, I'm telling you, dude, and I'm always watching I'm always looking dude, and this is another thing.
Speaker 3Man, people rob God of the ability to enjoy life with us, so he knows every single thing we do. He reads our mail before we get it. Just because he has the ability to know your thoughts so far off, it doesn't mean that he's reading your mind. He wants you to come and talk to him, pray, communicate, conversate, have a relationship with him. He's living, he's enjoying life through each and every one of us and experiencing new realities with us as we experience them. Man, don't we do the same with our children? We know that they're going to learn to ride a bike. We know they're going to learn to drive a car. We know they're going to get a job, but we enjoy that process with them and we experience it new with each one of our children and we appreciate their own individual personalities.
Angel Classifications and Hierarchy
Speaker 3When you have a parent that's really just trying to parent their children and not pup it up and this is what we do we don't sit back and observe and learn and become students of our children's skill sets and their proclivities and things like that. We try to make them Forget that artistic crap you're trying to learn you better. Get you a job that's going to pay your bills and do this and do that. We don't let them develop into what they were supposed to. We don't look at the gift that God gave them and help them hone it. We want to control it. We want to put it in the direction that we gave them and help them hone it. We, we want to control it. We want to put it in the direction that we want it to go in. We, we want to manipulate the gift instead of steward it and let it grow, and god is not like that and not only that, man.
Speaker 2There are some religions that stunt that growth and that in that area to say you know what that's, that's going to perish, that's. And that area to say you know what that's going to perish, that's not true, absolutely. So just y'all, you got to do a stand of Bible. I'm like wait a minute. Every good gift comes from God.
Speaker 3From every one of them, just like right now, what we're doing. As soon as AI hit the scene, oh my God, here it is. We getting ready, this is it. We setting it up. Setting it up and the antichrist, because you know it's going to give voice to the beast and he's going to be able to speak. This is the technology that's going to do it and instead of understanding what ai can really do to it to help lives and it should not be taking jobs, it should actually be creating jobs, you know, using it for our benefit, man for our comfort and things. That's promoting and progressing humanity, not not something that's going to become our rival. God didn't think that about us when he made us. We made a.
Speaker 2You know we had these few. I made a few videos through AI and I sent it to people and they're like I don't want to, I don't want to see that I don't want to touch that.
Speaker 3I don't want to touch that. That's. That's demonic bro. Where's?
Speaker 3your opinion right there it is, come on, man. But when you don't recognize that dominion is what we were made for, this. This is why all this stuff transpired the way it did, man, because when Lucifer's rebellion, he heard God's plan of us children, of him having children and all the authority in earth being ours and him putting everything under our feet. He heard that and he was uh, uh, no, sir. And it said iniquity.
Speaker 3I'm the one that, if anyone's gonna be worshiped and gonna have everything that the most high has because, remember, he wants to be like the most high, he wants he. He doesn't. He see, it's like people don't realize, man, they think like satan just automatically hated god he. That wasn't the case, man. He, he wanted to be like him, he wanted to have all the honor and respect and the glory that god had for himself. Yeah, I will when you read in is is uh, isaiah 14. And it said he said this in his heart. So he was campaigning, man, getting angels, some of the highest class angels, to get on board with his, with his desire to overthrow. And he lied, he manipulated. Jesus was a liar from the beginning and he was able to coerce a a a number of them.
Speaker 3That didn't happen overnight, man you know how long that went on and god did not intervene. He didn't cut it off because, just like us, he gives us the space of grace to grow and and repent for our you know mistakes when we're going down the wrong way. He gave lucifer that same opportunity, man and, and he didn't. And he fell, and he and this is where all this crap came from. But then, after he fell, like you want to talk about the Watchers God put. Now that he's down here and we were created, now we're coming into the story and this is why it's so imperative, man, for people to read, you know, the book that I put out as just a biblical resource to give you insight and shine some lights on some things more specifically, and then let the Holy Spirit speak to you according to what you're reading and he'll reveal more stuff to you. See, it's always about what a person, what the Holy Spirit, brings to your spirit. When you hear somebody else talking, not to just repeat what they said, but to repeat what you came up with in your spirit when you heard what the person said it's supposed to ignite another level of revelation, and that's what all this is supposed to be. Knowledge is our legacy as the family of God, man. And so God, only he gave us some, but he said but call on me and ask me and I will show you great and mighty things that you don't know. Everything that's in the Bible is not everything that God has to show us. And so when Lucifer fell, and you know, and we attribute, like a third fell with him After that, god appointed watchers, people that were already occupying a position, and the Lord says now I want to give you a new one.
Speaker 3Watch, watch my children, watch the earth, and keep me informed of what's happening, because now they're down there with the king of darkness. The one who was once the son of the morning is now the father of the darkness or the father of the night. So watch them, let me know what's going on. And as they were doing that, sons of men began to multiply, the daughters of men began to multiply on the earth, and they would be looking a little, you know. Now, instead of watching they being voyeurs, you know, the first pornographic stuff happened. Then they're watching and looking at stuff that they should not be looking at.
Speaker 3So when intimacies would happen between, you know, the sons of men and the daughters of men, that was like oh man, you know it was. It was stirring up some stuff and it said that the angels was looking at the daughters of men and saying how beautiful they were. And man, I do. Why would he give that to just them and and not us? And this and that, and again, there's different ethnicity and classes of angels in heaven, so all of them don't have the same attributes that, no, no more than animals have. I mean, man, you know we're not. Lions are not us.
Speaker 3You know gorillas are not us, contrary to what people want to talk and yeah, you know, I mean they're not, we're not animals like that, but but we have animality, we have certain connections, and animals are derived out of different personality traits of God, you know, and out of us, because we're that life and doing work and labor and setting stuff up before it need you know, before you know, some kind of drama arise. You know all that stuff. So it's, it's, you know. Just the comparisons are there. So, uh, they wanted what they saw us having. You know, they wanted to have sex with the women and but in their current states they couldn't. This is why Jude say they left their first estate and they took on the image of the image bearers, which was an absolute. No, no, that was a perversion at the highest order. Yeah and yeah. And then they came down and said and they began to take wives of all they desired. But how did they do that? They bargained with the sons of men, with their knowledge. Look, man, give me your daughter and I'll show you how to do this. Man, I'll show you how to. Oh man, music man. If you want to want to know how to do this music thing. Oh man, you talking about going to another level, this and that. And so they brought in music, they brought in arts, they brought in crafting, different things, and this is where all that mixture came man. But they had children with the daughters and they produced Giants, a whole another species of creature that should never have been created.
Speaker 3And so now God got to deal with this. You know so and people want to know, like why God didn't just stop at all? And it's not because he, he, is not gonna violate the wills of people, whether they be angels or us. He subdued when he said subdue, when you feel your passions going and taking you out of control, god is saying you have my spirit. You can bring that under authority. You can take control of those thoughts. Bring that under authority. You can take control of those thoughts.
Speaker 3Like when he warned Cain, he said, man, sin is at the doke. Get a hold of it, bro. If you don't, it's going to take dominion over you. So what was God saying? You got dominion over this, cain. You don't have to let your feelings run amok. Bring them back in control. Yeah, and this is crazy, and people don't think God has to do that. You know how many times we read in scripture when God was getting ready to do something and he brought his anger back under control. But then you see parts of scripture say and the anger of God was kindled against that people. Kindling means it's something he's setting on fire, man. He just let it go. He's like, okay, that's it, I'm not dealing with this and he deal with it. But you know and and and and judgment, but he doesn't desire to do that.
Speaker 2No, it's his pleasure to give you the kingdom yes, that's his pleasure.
Speaker 3Pleasure, yes, that's what pleasures him. And you having faith in his kingdom and believing in his wisdom, this is what pleasures him.
Speaker 2And and you had different angels, man that just rebelled, another group of angels that rebelled against god, again another group hey, uh, like you said well, I think it was the last podcast and you said it's it's hard to go to hell. You have to like intentionally, intentionally.
Speaker 3You have to totally sell yourself out to the kingdom of darkness for that? Yeah, totally, because it wasn't created for man. Jesus clearly said it was created for the devil and his angels. And when you read in isaiah it said hell enlarges itself. God is not enlarging, but if it was enlarging it could also be, uh, diminished, but that has to be a purposeful act.
Speaker 3So there are people, everyone's name, man, and I know we're kind of bouncing everywhere, man, but it's because there's so much activity going on that if you don't stop and you are just depriving yourself of so much wisdom by not reading the scriptures, man, yeah, people that just won't read the Bible, bro, bible, bro. They just they are locking their self out of a level of history concerning God, you know, and the angels and us, you know, and how it all intertwined and intersected and how did it all get like this and but? But then you still think that it's still jacked up because you still see evil stuff happening. Yeah, but you don't recognize that Jesus has rebooted the whole system, reconciled everything, gave all authority that's in heaven and earth back to the children of men. Now we even got an extended authority. Adam had only all authority on earth. We have all authority in heaven and earth because we're joint heirs with Christ.
Speaker 3Christ is a new creation. He's not like Adam. He's the first one. Adam was born from life and he died from rebellion. Christ was. He came in as the last Adam suffered death so that he could take on everything that Adam lost and bear the penalty of all that, and raised from the dead. So he's the first one born from death to life and he's a living spirit and he made us.
Speaker 3We're no longer like Adam. You know, we're just flesh first. You know what I mean. We're not that, you see. First we're spirit. Our flesh is actually. It the old. How they said that Adam was. You know he was a spirit who had a soul, possess a soul, live in a body, you know, and we, you can say to wear bodies that also possess souls, but we live in our spirit. See now, our spirit is the external part of us. We, adam, the external part of Adam was his flesh. The external part of us is our spirit. This is why Paul said no, no man after the flesh anymore. Don't look at them like that. Look at them as the spirit beings that they are. But our flesh still has to remain, because our flesh is what gives us authority in the earth.
Speaker 2Yes, oh, man, that's so much man it is.
Speaker 3It is so much. But the angels bro have. When christ raised from the dead, god said, jesus said, restoring to me the glory I had before the world was when he was praying in John 17. The scripture literally shows us when God restored that glory. Jesus read how God would restore the glory because it's written in Psalms 45.
Speaker 3In Hebrews 1, paul I believe he's the Hebrew writer he tells us that when Christ was dead, when God raised him from the dead, he said now, thy throne, o God, is forever, you know, and so he's talking to you. He's raising him back up from the dead by speaking the glory that he had as the word of God before the word became flesh. And he said your throne, o God, is forever, and the righteousness of your kingdom you loved. Righteous over iniquity, righteousness over iniquity. The scepter of your kingdom is the scepter of righteousness and the increase of you know, and all of this. And saying everything this stuff about Christ. And then he said and now let all the angels of God worship him. Yes, now we're joint heirs with Christ.
Speaker 3And he prayed in john 17. He said, father, and the glory that you give me, I'm giving it to them. They get the same glory I have. So now, if all the angels of god worship me and worship doesn't stop thinking of worship as just singing homage and they bow down to you, worship in a kingdom at its highest level is obedience. We perform acts of worship to our government every single day. When you stop at a red light, when you stop at a stop sign, you know when you obey the laws of the land. That is worship and because it's worthy of me obeying and you just do it without what I even think about thinking, if I do this, I'm gonna get a ticket or I'm gonna go to jail exactly but when?
Speaker 3but notice when you're violating the law and you see the hope, the popos, yeah you know, oh snap, snap. You know because you knew you were violating the law. You were in violence because you were not obeying the law and you bring yourself right in. You drop that, dropped it down, you grab for that seat belt, you stop texting or whatever you're doing. That's violating the law.
Speaker 2Go through a red light, you look.
Speaker 3Oh, my God.
Speaker 2Did they see me?
Speaker 3And what do they do? You get tickets, you get you get, you know citations, you get things way before you have to come to court and be charged as a criminal. They're not just looking well, you know this. Okay, okay. Anyway, when everything is, when everything is working properly, they're not just looking to haul you off to jail for your first offense, yeah, and then, even when you do that, you are still worthy of a defense, an attorney, to come to court and and give you a defense for your crimes. Yeah, still, even with that man, it is not as easy in when a when a situation is going right, right, it's not as easy to go to jail as people think it is. Man, you had to do something, some heinous crap, to go to jail after, after a single offense like mass murder, and guess what? You still get to have a defense in court. You still get your day in court.
Speaker 2You still get it. Can you speak to principalities?
The Fallen Watchers
Speaker 3So principalities are more of the ones who deal with daily stuff. Like when Paul says we wrestle not against flesh and blood, but against principalities, powers, rulers of the darkness and spiritual wickedness in high places. He's letting us know this is what we deal with on a daily basis. So principalities are people who try to set them, set um, who controlled a matrix. Principalities are like the agents in the movie the matrix, you know what I mean. They're the ones that's trying to put down everybody who's trying to violate the matrix, break out of the matrix and and all that stuff, so that those are who we're dealing with on a daily basis. Everyone's not an agent in the matrix, you know. Everyone's not a principality. Powers are the things that are being set up. That's governing us on a daily basis. It's, it's, it's what controls the matrix. You know it's. It's those daily things.
Speaker 3Rulers of the darkness See, the darkness in of itself is a fight. The darkness is our food being poisoned, but we're still attracted to it. We're married, shouldn't have extramarital activities, but we still do it. Lying, cheating on your taxes, cheating on, you know, lying on applicant lying, you know all that stuff. That's the darkness. And then so there's rulers. That's, you know, like man put down that you put down, you never had a felony bro. You know, when you found out application putting that's a ruler of that of the darkness. That's that's when we, when they people say you know the devil on your soul, show an angel on your shoulders yeah that's that daily stuff.
Speaker 3Those are the rulers of the darkness. So it's all these different things that we're dealing with simultaneously and paul says we wrestle with that. We, we're wrestling with that. Never look like we're dealing with people. They're being inspired and influenced to get us to violate the things of God. But the angels are here too, spiritual, you know, righteousness in high places instead of spiritual wickedness. So for every it's it's mirrored, you know. But God's stuff was set up first. Everything was righteous, it's just they fell, but they fell and they set up a kingdom just like God's kingdom, just one of darkness. It's, it's, it's, it's it's.
Speaker 3All this stuff is clearly seen, like Paul said in Romans 1.20. He says clearly the invisible things of God are clearly seen and understood by the things that are visible, so that people are without excuse. No one can say I didn't know that. Yes, you did. Just because you didn't pay attention to it and you didn't, wasn't attentive to it and wasn't deliberate with it didn't mean that you didn't understand. Of course you did. This is why jesus, when he came, he said, when he's talking to the multitude how should, how should I like in the kingdom of god? Um, it's like this a man do, because he's comparing it to stuff that we can already relate to.
Speaker 2Yeah I just, man, you talked about the matrix. Only I could think about is agent Smith, mr.
Speaker 3Smith, bro, mr Mr Anderson, absolutely, Absolutely. And here's the thing man, death is an angel also, thanatos, you know they, it's just like in the marvel universe. Why is the dude, the titan that was over, that can snap this thing and destroy? He was getting out trying to get all the power, stones and all this stuff to do to snap and he's gonna bring balance to the universe. And his name is it's from Thanatos, the angel of death.
Speaker 3Yeah, and we're dealing with in their classes, they're not just one when you say death angel, not just one, you know it's, it's a whole class of classification, or ethnos, ethnos of, of angelic existence. Right, they are in charge of death, but it said, when jesus came, he came to destroy the one who had the power of death, who could control him, and and that is the devil, so when the Lord. That's why he says now I have the keys. Keys is an idiom of having authority. Now I control death. Hell, you know the grave so is. Is Jesus trying to kill us? Is, is he trying to put us in a grave? You know, is this trying to kill us? Is he trying to put us in a grave? Is he trying to send us to hell? No, that's why he said that we're free from it. And now seek immortality, seek honor, seek glory and part of an eternal life. And part of that glory is us judging angels. That's what we do. That's what we're supposed to do.
Speaker 2That's probably in the title of your book Firing and Hiring Angels.
Speaker 3Yes, we do it on a daily basis, bro. We fire them because we're not allowing them to do what they were sent to do, and that's to administer. He's clear in Hebrews 1. He said and that's to administer. He's clear in Hebrews 1. He said are they not all ministering spirits sent forth to minister for those who shall be heirs of salvation and shall be, doesn't mean that your salvation is in the future. It means when you are become mature enough to take possession of it and work it out.
Speaker 3Paul says work out your own salvation with fear and trembling. Man, this thing you have is so precious and so precise that your focus need to be on man. How do I work this? How do I get this to benefit me as it pertains to the purposes of God? We're not meant to die. There's a salvation application that can keep us in immortality. But Paul says but you got to work that out with fear and trembling, or with reverence and respect. Revere what you have.
Speaker 3And David did that. David said Lord, they're after me, they're going to kill me, they're trying to take me out of here. And david said but no, I will. I will live and not die and I will declare the wondrous works of god. So he's using his authority to decree life instead of giving in to the death that's trying to take him out. I will live and not die, I don't care what it looks like.
Speaker 3Hezekiah did did the same thing when Isaiah came to him and said you're going to die, man, get your house in order. He turned away from the prophet of God and said Lord, who praises you like me, who talks about you like me, you know, lord. Basically, he didn't want to die and the Lord, before Isaiah, could lead a court. He told him to turn around, go tell him. I'm giving him 15 more years, bro, when you getting ready to, told you, getting ready to die in a few days and some, and you're getting guaranteed 15 more years from god. That's, that's a huge uh leap of what you did. But he worked that. He worked that salvation, yeah, with with fear and trembling, bro, and and we, you can't do that when you're, when you surrender and say well, if it was God's will for me to live.
Speaker 3I would live, or if this is will for me to die, I'm gonna die.
Speaker 3Everybody got to go sometime yeah and this, this is not and and that repels angels. That is firing your angel, because that angel is here to administer nothing but salvation to you, nothing but life, nothing but the benefits of God. And when you start talking, it's a stench, just like your prayers. It's just like when you read, it said the incense, the prayers are the incense of the saints, and it's taken into the temple and this is what God smells. It says that God catches the tears of his Saints, of his people, and put them in bottles. Angels are the one that's bottling the tears. They're the one that's taking our prayers, because these things have substance and DNA. It's real. It's real stuff. Or you can do it in fear and cry and do it in hatred and all of that.
Speaker 3Demons and fallen ones. They take that there's still prayers and they take it into their demonic temples and they form weapons against you. This is why Isaiah says no weapon formed against you shall prosper. Why? Because their weapons are being formed. But then Isaiah also said but you will condemn it. This is your heritage. This is your heritage, this is part of your inheritance as being servants of God. And that was and that was old covenant. Promises man, why Promises are way better than theirs are because they're in Christ. They may rest upon his blood, his sacrifice and all of the stuff that they had. In the old covenant, the demons went. When you read in Ecclesiastes when, when Solomon said the power was on the side of the oppressor, they were when Adam fell. All of that was established on Adam's fall and DNA and blood, right and birthright and all that, but ours is established on Christ, which is a much, much better covenant.
Speaker 2Oh man, we were get washed with the blood, and so we can get God's spirit poured upon us.
Speaker 3Holy Spirit the.
Speaker 2Holy Spirit which come on, we don't and we don't talk about that enough.
Speaker 3No no. And the Holy Spirit doesn't come to make us holy. The Holy Spirit comes because we are holy yeah.
Speaker 2But yeah, that conversation yesterday was about the cross.
Speaker 3But that's a person that doesn't know what work was really done, and so yeah, saying that transition to this.
Speaker 2You and I have been talking about one day being able to go back to a church and have a go into the body of Christ man and just learn to engage with the body?
Speaker 3Yeah, and in a local assembly, absolutely.
Speaker 2But it's difficult when you're on a different level of learning.
Speaker 3Absolutely. And so absolutely.
Speaker 2You know you, I'm not saying we graduated from college, man, but you in college it's hard, it's difficult to go back to the seventh grade.
Speaker 3You're not going to do it. It's not difficult. You're not going to do it. You know what I mean, Unless you're going to teach it. Unless you're going to teach it, yes, You're not going back to learn anything in the seventh grade. And it's not that that teacher could not teach you anything. They may also have college level. You know degrees. Usually they do have a college degree.
Speaker 3But their mission, their purpose, their calling is to teach those who are in seventh grade. So you going to partake of seventh grade curriculum is not going to grow you, it's not going to benefit you. What it's going to do is it's actually going to dumb you down because you're going to buy osmosis, want to connect with the people that you're with, so you're going to start behaving and learning and acting like somebody that's in the seventh grade.
Speaker 2You have to repress your knowledge.
Speaker 3You are Absolutely You're going to suppress it and repress it and you're going to do it purposefully, because you want to have a relationship with the people that you're with.
Speaker 2Yeah, when people get you know, like when people invite me to church and I turn them down why, sometimes, sometimes I have a hard time just telling them. No, I just like like I was invited. I was invited somewhere last Sunday and I was like, nah, but I did tell them. I said I'm not going to promise you anything. I said but what days are you talking about? Well, the weekend, this, and that. I said well, I'll let you know, but I never got back. I never got back. Yeah, my bad on that.
Our Authority Over Angels
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, no, I feel you, man, and I get those same invitations. And it's not that you're trying to be foul to anyone. It's not that you're trying to be disrespectful, not at all, not at all. It's recognizing. And sometimes I do go, you know. Sometimes I have went and I already know what I'm going to do and I'm just going, you know, because of what the person says. But I'm telling you, I'm not, I don't feel like I'm glorifying god at all in that service, because everything is being said. I'm like oh, my god, oh God, oh, oh, oh, oh, oh, you know, because it's like you you're, you're hearing stuff that is contrary to what you know.
Speaker 2And then you're not benefiting because you're going to eventually check out.
Speaker 3Absolutely, because now it's a protection. You are, because it's a, it's a protection. You're protecting your spirit, you know, from from being defiled by that, because emotion is strong, bro, and you start hearing some of them, songs, and, and that organ get to you know, pulling as they say, pull on your heartstrings and it start infusing itself to you. You know, like man, and and I love his brother, man, I love his passion, this dude, his, his congregate, I mean his ministry, is just man, just blowing up and it's people that's moving from their States, from their homes, to go, and this brother is so giving and benevolent.
Speaker 3The pastor, what is it like 1920 church? Or 1928 church? He just preaches with so much conviction. His name Philip Mitchell, or something like that. And do you see him? If you've seen him, you know him. I don't know if you know him, but if you've seen them I'll send you a clip. Dude, man, dude, preach with so much conviction and passion and and I love him, man, but, bro, he is so saying conscious um, avoid this, avoid that, and I mean with rigor, and I mean he preaches with fire, bro, I mean, I'm glad I'm going to cut you off.
Speaker 2I'm glad you say that because a coworker of mine sent me one of his videos. And I and. I, you know, I told you, she's like check this out, Like yeah, I know that guy, he's pretty good and she's oh, I love his stuff and all that.
Speaker 3But I just left him like that I didn't, I didn't continue, absolutely man, cause apparently it's blessing her enough to where she feel like share it with you and and and let it bless you. But that's, that's like man, I mean honestly man, let's. It's like in the world. We don't get upset, man, when we, as people got to go through the grade levels first, second, third, fourth, fifth you know we're encouraging everybody but you got to go to the next level next year I expect you to be uh at and going into the next grade. Or when people are smart enough and they get double promoted or they get to go to magnet schools and you know other schools where it's just for just man, you're, you're excelling at a, you know, at above average rate. So you gotta, you know your education needs to be a little higher level than just going to the next grade level. We honor that.
Speaker 3But when it comes to spiritual matters, we want to keep the person in the same church for all their life. My mother went to this church, my father went to this church, my, my, my legacy is in this church, you know? And? But they, they're teaching at a sixth grade level and that's all they teach at. It's just about salvation, it's about coming in, and it ain't even about salvation. It's about redemption and coming in and accepting your redemption and striving to do the things that God says to do so you can make it to heaven. Yeah, you know, and and that is not the purpose of God. It's never been, nor will it ever be, the purpose of God for us to get to heaven. Our prayer was he was clear pray for the kingdom of God to come on earth as it is in heaven, because you're an earthling. You were created for rulership here in this earth. Now, will that expand throughout eternity? Once we start getting this stuff right, I'm sure it will. There's a whole lot of stuff that's going to happen that we have no clue on, but, like we always say, the Bible is not about God's future plans. The Bible is about God reconciling everything back to his initial Edenic reality where we no more death, no more dying, no more crying, no more pain, no more this crying, no more pain, no more this. Now, as we go forward and into the new aspects of the story, eventually is there going to be tribulation and things we're going to have to overcome. A hundred percent, yeah, because we're still going to have free wills. We're going to still have some things that conflict, but we're going to let allow our conflict to be resolved according to the government of God, according to the kingdom, and that's going to happen.
Speaker 3Do bruh angels get in conflict with each other? They have to resolve it as brothers. There are some angels, man, that that will take on your affinity, like right now your angel, the one that you have this with you all the time. He shares your same passion. He hate bullies, everything like everything that's in your personality. Your angel bears that same characteristic. If you come up against somebody and let's say, let's say me and you having a conversation, me and you haven't always been on the same side of an argument. Right.
Speaker 3But we resolve it as brothers in love and we allow the kingdom to govern us, our angels will suffer that same conflict.
Speaker 3You know, sometimes I'm not saying it always happens like that, but your angel can be just as passionate about it and mine can be more passive. Man, let's do this. Some angels is about that. Fight life, bro. They like man. I ain't trying to hear that let's, let's storm this, let's do this now, you know, and then some angels are more. But you need to calm down, bro, because if we do it like this, remember more. But you need to calm down, bro, because if we do it like this, remember how yahweh says that anger don't do anything, but get more anger. You know, and it's not, bro.
Speaker 3Angels have to be talked down too yeah, you know and I mean, bro, there was an angel that was going on a killing spree, so much so that he had okay, the lord is okay, okay, okay, stay your hand. I mean he really, I mean he was on an assignment. The Lord said everybody is against man. Light him up, bro. You light them up. And then, when the repentance broke out, that angel doesn't stop. Because he heard you like, okay, they started, the Lord had to stop. Okay, okay, okay, it's not, that's enough, that's enough, bro. They are on assignment and when they are, when they let loose, they let loose, bro. And but some angels have the proclivity. Man, be like, I don't want to do it, you know I don't want to do it. You know I don't want to do it, but I know, they're sorry, I know they don't mean to do it.
Speaker 3Some angels are like that man and they have to be, you know, have to be talked to, or someone will be sat down like, okay, bro, you ain't up for this, so. And then they have to go and present themselves. Why? And Joe, when you read that the angels, the sons of god, came to present themselves to god, why do you think they do that? They're just checking in and giving the king, they're giving him a rundown of what they've been doing, over what they've been charged over. Yeah, people don't relate to that, because but God knows everything, do not? You have no right to avail yourself to the omniscience of God. These are words we gave, that we did, that we put in. Yes, he is all knowing. Yes, he is all powerful. Yes, he is all present, but he is not manifesting his power everywhere. He is not manifesting his presence everywhere and he is not manifesting his power everywhere. He is not manifesting his presence everywhere and he is not manifesting what he knows everywhere. If you're not seeking this, draw nigh to god and he'll draw nigh to you. If you don't want to know, he ain't going to tell you. Hosea says you will know the lord as you follow on to know. This is why he says seek the kingdom. Hunger and thirst after righteousness. Press, ask do all this stuff? Why these are? These are intentional things we have to do to show the lord. I want to know your ways. Yeah, and this, and, and. If we don't, man, if we do not get serious about the purposes and the plans of God, then man how can, how can his will ever be fulfilled? Jesus is like man. If I, we can call angels to get us out of situations that God never, not necessarily, want to get us out of, we have that authority to do that.
Speaker 3Elijah, elisha, who took over, you know um, elijah's role. When the Lord said, elijah, anoint Elijah in your office and he's going to take over, because Elijah got to the point man, he was like man, I'm, the people don't even feel you like me, god, they ain't even trying to do right. So you know, all this stuff, man, and people still ain't, you know, changing. And then I did all this and I, this woman, jezebel, she want to kill me and I'm done, son, I don't want to do it.
Speaker 3And in the relationship with with God, god was like okay, bro, look, go and anoint Elish jehu. You know he was telling me him, anoint these people in your office and, um, and just come on up here, man. Elijah did not even see death. God brought him up to heaven. They were still tight like that and he didn't finish his purpose, but his relationship with god was so tight and he believed in the power of God and everything, so much, man, that he did not even see that the Lord's like man and I'm I'm gonna send some chairs to come and get you, bro, yeah, and after you anoint them. But when he anoints them this is what I mean by your angels, your angelic protection and everything is attached to your assignment. When he get anointed, elisha, those angels that were with Elijah were now with Elisha because he took over the assignment.
Speaker 3And there were a day, there was a day when Elisha because he had his bald head, bro, and Elisha pronounced judgment on these kids for teasing him. And they said the she bears came and tore them kids to shreds. Do you think God wanted man, because his man got teased, that you killed the kids, bro? That's rough, that's crazy. But because, because he is his prophet and he has access to resources, he was able to speak that judgment and the angels that was with him carried it out. She bears get them, kill them. You know, the she bears was close or whatever. I don't know why they got used, but whatever it was death on them and he used them. She bears to do it. And those are angels that did that man. But why? Why did they do it? Because they are sent to administer, according to the word of those who speak for god, prophet.
Speaker 3The prophet spoke for god. They didn't go and check with god. God do I do that, you know? And then, but when they go present themselves to god and be like, yeah, what you do, yeah, I killed, um, killed some kids. That was teasing Elijah.
Speaker 3Elisha and this is like God was like what. That's what he said. And then God began to deal with Elisha. He ain't gonna get the angels for doing what Elisha said. You know, he'll deal with them, he'll deal with the men. And it said that, literally, that he ain't going to get the angels for doing what Elisha said. Right, you know, he'll deal with them, he'll deal with the men, you know. And it said literally that Elisha died of a sickness that he never got over man, and I believe it was because Elisha was an angry prophet and he stayed angry his whole life, man. He pronounced leprosy on his servant for disobeying him. Uh, he just, elijah, did a lot of stuff, man. That was just not conducive with the character and nature of god, even when remember when elijah caught fire down from heaven yeah on them people remember when james and john because they read that in the scripture they wanted to do the same and Jesus, he, he rebuked them for that.
Speaker 3Yeah, he was like y'all don't even know what spirit y'all love, man, stop, don't do it, cause Elijah did that. He was wrong when he did it and it's still wrong. You don't kill people because they don't listen to what you say. They're going to be consequences, consequences. But don't you call the fire down, just like when peter killed I mean when peter pronounced death on ananias and fire that people. That is not what god desired.
Speaker 3But if those are the people that have authority and that's the judgment, that they meet out, because god says whoever says you remit, they're remitted. Whoever says you, you, you know, let off, then it'll be let off. If you want to keep people's sins, uh, connected to them and judge them for it, god said that that's something that you did, but he's going to still deal with you as his man and he had to deal with Peter all through his life until Peter got to the point where he okay, I get it, I get get it. And he had, through the holy spirit, through the sanctification of the spirit, and over time in years, peter still had prejudices, yeah, later on in his life, and you see that in the ministry man.
Speaker 3But but the, the angels, are sent to administer according to those who have the authority to speak god's word, and the apostles had that. We have it. To speak God's word, and the apostles had that. We have it. Death and life is in the power of the tongue. It still is, it always will be, and we have. We can speak life or we can speak death, and God is not responsible for the death that we speak. When he tells us choose life, don't do that. When he tells us choose life, don't do that and we do it anyway.
Speaker 2So we defy him and the angels will you know like, wow, I guess we gotta let that happen. Oh man, that's some good stuff, man, I think we should end it here and let people marinate on that. Yeah, my renewal.
Food Choices and Healthy Eating
Speaker 3It's a lot bro, it's a lot man. Yeah, thank you but it thank you. But it's good news though. It's good news because we, just like you said, we renew our minds to it, Then we can begin to experience the benefits of it from a godly perspective and according to the kingdom of God.
Speaker 2Oh yeah, excuse me, man into the kingdom of god.
Speaker 1Oh yeah, excuse me, man it's one of those things, the mind renewals that you gotta go take a deep sleep over man let's go to bed over this yeah, man, that's some good stuff, man, but uh, thank you for that teaching man, man dude.
Speaker 3Thank you for giving me the space to do it, man. Yeah, thank you, lord.
Speaker 2Yes, yes, thank you, lord, absolutely you got a nutritional tip for us, bro um, man, just just just frustrated man when, um, these stores not necessary, but just going shopping, and you know, know, I'm a label reader and just frustrated how they put it on a front label how healthy it's supposed to be, and then you turn it around and then you see it's unhealthy.
Speaker 3And you see the contradiction on the back.
Speaker 2Yeah big contradiction, like I was telling you yesterday and my wife, when we were in the store and we we were at the oil section, I said check it out. I said check out the vegetable oil. She said what's up? I said just look at the get a container of vegetable oil. Look at the back. So she turned it around and it said ingredients it's soybean oil. And she said what?
Speaker 2yeah, because if it's so, if it they advertise soybean oil on the front nobody would buy it right and and, like I, bought me some vegan mayonnaise which has been made primarily from avocado oil okay and so like, yeah, sweet, grabbed it. Look at the back. First ingredient avocado oil. Second ingredient canola oil, which contradicts, which totally contradicts, the avocado oil. Wow, because canola soy, all that stuff is rancid and over time, tears are lying in your stomach.
Speaker 3So oh my goodness.
Speaker 2So I just was like oh yeah Then. And another thing too you got these trusted brands called CAT. Cat is a brand that I trust that I've been eating for snacks. Think of health. People say that there aren't any healthy snacks unless you're eating fruit. So when it comes to chips and all that, if you decide to eat, eat chips, make sure it's cooked in avocado oil, olive oil, and so, uh, at this branch, cht does that, and uh they were bought by pepsi man oh, man, and so, uh, once we all find out in the health community, like they say well, just keep reading the ingredients, see if it changes.
Speaker 2And sure enough I went. It went from having three ingredients to six. Oh boy, oh boy. So we all upset about that man. Now we got to find another, trusted, healthy. But I mean, those ingredients they add aren't bad, but they are unnecessary. Right, right, yeah it's man dude.
Speaker 3See this again, man, even in in going and I know we're ending, man, but just even talking about, like the, the, the book title that the lord gave me unresolved mysteries of god's kingdom, it's not that they're not solved, we just haven't resolved them. And it's the same thing, like, even with you're talking about the nutrition stuff, man, you're clearly telling people, the more ingredients, the worst it is for you. It doesn't take all that, the, the, the minimal agreement. If you going to go get peanut butter, it should just be peanuts and salt, or whatever you say, peanuts and salt.
Speaker 3Peanuts and salt is all it should be and that's peanut butter. But when you start adding all this other stuff and we know this is true you're giving us the facts but we'll still get the peanut butter. Why? Because it's not that, it's not a solved mystery. You told people the more ingredients, the worse it is. It's a mystery, it's something that we won't resolve within us enough to change our minds towards it, and it's still hurting us.
Speaker 2I'm telling you when you eat natural for a long, long length of time, like I was eating that peanut butter I went to when I had my knee surgery and the only thing they had was Jif bro. So I was like you know what. Let me eat some of this. Go ahead and do it. And I immediately and I could taste the difference. I could taste the chemicals? Sure, and I could taste the agent that binds it together, that makes it, you know, solid like that.
Speaker 3Oh my goodness, you're tasting. All of the stuff, all of those chemical ingredients.
Speaker 2Yeah, you can't even enjoy it.
Speaker 3That's heavy man, because that's how far you've sanctified your body to. You set your body apart to that, and then, when you bring in some some dirty ingredients or something that's right it affects you and yeah, absolutely.
Speaker 2Hey man, I mean, I come to people double fisted and I'm gonna say like this double fisted, when I come to people there's, like you know, they feel condemned either not, you know, just not, not that I'm a come preached in them, but right right. He got his life right with. You know, right with food and oh yeah right right. Okay. I'm a busy man, so yeah.
Speaker 3I know, yes, that's double business Right With God and his food, Okay.
Speaker 2And I get out especially with the food man, people like man. I know you're going to say something like no don't mess.
Speaker 3Don't mess with my ribs, that I don't know.
Speaker 2But I just, like people is at the break area, just eat. I'm just merely going over there to wash my container. I know you go to the big. Yeah, I'm going to Right right? No, I know you're going to say something. Conviction. Yeah, I know you're going to say no, I'm just washing my container out, because you're the light. You know what I'm saying Because you're the light, you're the light. You know, if you want to eat chicken embryos, go ahead. You know what I mean.
Speaker 3You know if you want to do that. You know if you want to if you want to drink cow mucus I mean what they.
Speaker 2They try to reverse it into you know, a tease me like I'm a rabbit, I eat rabbit food and you eat cardboard and you eat grass or throw it.
Speaker 3It's as Jesus said I didn't come into the world to condemn the world. I came into the world that the world might be saved. But this is the condemnation that men love darkness and they love the darkness and they won't come to the light. You don't come over to condemn nobody but their food. You know you come and tell people the truth, man, and that they can have life and everything. But the condemnation is people love their food, bro, we love our. You know the stuff and we know it's hurting us.
Speaker 3Bro, when you can, when you, when you lay down at night and I did this last night and I did my stuff, man, I was going to tell you the truth, bro. I had me some cookies and ice cream. Okay, I mean, I did, I had it, yeah. First of all, you get the BGS, you get the bubblegum, then, secondly, my laying steel, my at rest heart rate. You can feel your heart. I'm not even moving, bro. I'm not even moving, yeah, but it's what that is doing to my system and making my system have to do to try and reckon with what I've just did, my body trying to regulate. It's trying, yeah, and it's trying to regulate, but all it's letting you know that what you just did is bad bro. Yeah, you is bad and my heart is laying down bro.
Speaker 2Yeah, he's trying to do and bringing down the submission man is trying, is trying to, is trying to.
Speaker 3But if you gonna keep doing this, bro, you can mess with my dominion bro, you can't keep this up every day. I've been doing it for 54 years, bro. Let's come on, man, we got. You don't have to pray about this. You, you know, he's already told you, I already told you, you know what you should be doing and not doing as it pertains to this, so you don't have to pray about it.
Speaker 2But also, say man, it's cool to indulge me. You have to, you know, because you can't just but it's a better way to get.
Speaker 3It's a better way.
Speaker 2There are better options. There are better.
Speaker 3Absolutely. There's a much better way to satisfy a sweet craving.
Speaker 2You know what mine is? I got dates. Man Dates are really sweet. I grab a date and take the pit out of it. I stuff it with that natural peanut butter. I eat about three of them and I'm good bro. I go upstairs and chill out.
Speaker 3Unlike going to get a rack of Oreos.
Speaker 2You know milk's favorite cookie you know, my wife's still trying to find the post Malone boys man. I'm like I'm done with that man, I'm over it. I'm over it Cause I've given up, you know cause? I was still eating the Lorna Dunes I call Lorna's dudes but I looked at them and I looked at the back and they had the high fructose corn syrup and I just will not. I'm not ingesting that anymore. So they ever changed that to like regular cane sugar or something like oh, coconut sugar.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, I eat it. You go back to them, yeah, but uh, man, lauren is dudes though. Yeah.
Speaker 2Ooh, get that buttery.
Speaker 3Come on man.
Speaker 2Chris, it just goes.
Speaker 3You and them shortbread cooking into the girl's house, oh come on man that just be tugging at your childhood bro.
Speaker 2It's tugging at your childhood. Man, don't get me started, because I be craving some Captain Crunch now. Oh, my goodness, bro man, get me some Captain Crunch now, shoot man. Hey man, I'm going to tell you this before we leave, man, because I did. I fell off the wagon for a little bit right before I fasted.
Speaker 3That's why I had to fast, man, oh, okay.
Speaker 2But I was at Ollie's man. They have, you know, they always get the overflow of the stores and stuff like that. Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah for sure they had a whole shelf full of those strawberry milkshake frosted flakes.
Speaker 3Oh, my goodness bro.
Speaker 2And then I'm trying to stay away from corn, but I'm like you know what I mean, the corn flakes was good, and that strawberry frosting goes into the milk. Man. Who does not like cereal milk, bro? Who don't bro? My cousin Taurus don't drink cereal milk, bro. Who don't bro? My cousin, my cousin tars, don't eat drinks, he don't, oh man that's the it.
Speaker 3That's the end game.
Speaker 2That's the end game, man. My mom and myself, we see him like. What are you doing? He pouring milk, first of all. Why are you wasting it then, like you right about? Why are you wasting it then like cereal milk, bro? Oh man, that is the best I love cereal milk frosted place.
Speaker 3I mean, I love it man.
Speaker 2My mom like cinnamon toast crunch man. Cinnamon toast crunch. My mom likes Cinnamon Toast Crunch man. Cinnamon Toast Crunch milk, bro, Dude. Come on, Come on bro. That stuff is so relevant that they make ice cream.
Speaker 3That's right, cereal milk, ice cream, bro. What, oh why are you telling me that?
Speaker 2Why are you telling me that? Because I'm even fighting. Oh yes, cereal milk ice cream, cereal milk ice cream that that's that darkness dog.
Speaker 3I'm talking about that darkness we gotta wrestle yeah. That darkness dog, I'm talking about that darkness we got to wrestle, yeah, no but I'm a doge.
Speaker 2I'm a doge in that.
Speaker 3I'm not going to wrestle against that today. No, not today, yeah.
Speaker 2Stereo milk ice cream.
Speaker 3That's crazy. It is, that is great. But it's smart, though it is yeah, because it's pulling on so much. You know it's smart though it is man. Because it pulled on so much you know it's gonna taste good and it puts you in that childhood, that nostalgia too, man.
Speaker 2Come on, man, I eat that. Watch me watching some smurfs or something there, it is right, right pee, we hear peewee hair okay, man, alright man, we gotta go.
Speaker 3We're barking on two hours, yeah we are yeah, yeah, yeah, okay, alright, man, we love you people.
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