The Gospel Twins Podcast

Righteous Indignation: Speaking Truth in a Culture of Lies

Sean Hicks and John McArn Season 2 Episode 18

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Faith is refined through testing, just as muscles need resistance to grow stronger. When we speak truth and then face challenges in that area, it's an opportunity for spiritual development rather than a reason to stop speaking boldly.

• Righteous indignation about cultural issues
• The importance of speaking up against microaggressions with wisdom rather than anger
• Defending Martin Luther King Jr.'s legacy against attempts to diminish his contributions
• Questioning why do Kingdom Citizens fixate on the cross when Christ's throne is eternal
• Breaking down artificial barriers between "secular" and "spiritual" aspects of life
• Understanding that personal convictions should not become universal standards
• Setting healthy boundaries in relationships preserves your peace and joy
• Moving beyond religious symbols to embrace kingdom principles in all areas of life


Introduction to Gospel Twins

Speaker 1

This is the Gospel Twins, with your hosts, sean and John, your go-to podcast for the kingdom perspective on current events and the good news God has for the culture. Get ready to renew your mind, one piece at a time.

Speaker 2

People of God. People of God, welcome to the Gospel Twins podcast, where you get your mind renewed piece by piece and episode by episode.

Speaker 3

And I am sean and I am john and and we are the guys oh, that's what's up. We gotta get the.

Speaker 2

We gotta man get that uh, what you call it, the, the sound effect for when the one of the twins used to bump their.

Speaker 3

Uh, oh, I had to find that I had to get that ah, man, it ain't that dope too, man, I just, I just thought about that when the twins, when they would activate their powers, they changed into something else, man. So ain't that what this is all about, bro, us renewing our minds and changing, you know, going from glory to glory, bro, that is dope. I didn't even think about that, to just that you know. So, holy spirit, thank you that new creation man I love it.

Speaker 3

I love it. So what's up, man, how you doing dude, I ain't good man, good you know.

Speaker 2

Despite everything, man, just uh, my faith man, I just love my faith man getting put to the test and have to use it come on, man come on and I mean, how many times have we come on here and I don't know about you? I confess something and then it seems like the following week I'm being tested on what I say Every time, every time. All this microphone like oh.

Speaker 3

Every time, bro, but you know what?

Speaker 2

I ain't going to shut my mouth, I ain't going to shut my mouth.

Speaker 3

You can't dude. I can't tell you how many times I've heard people say that Like oh, you know what it seemed like. Every time I say something, here it comes, it tells me. Say that man, like oh, you know what it seemed like. Every time I say something and here it comes it tells I'm just gonna stop saying it. Why would you do that? You know, what would you do? How is your faith going to? And let me say this right, because I want to say, because it's not about faith growing, but it's about you, uh, getting skillful with your faith, you know, and and activating it and it maturing is not so much that you get more of it, it's just you mature in it with use. How you gonna do it? If you don't have no nothing to do it, do it on, bro, you know, you know what I mean that muscle don't grow.

Speaker 3

I don't give you no, you got to give it some resistance, bro. Got to give it to some resistance training man.

Speaker 2

Absolutely.

Speaker 3

Dude, yes, and it don't always feel good. But, bruh, do it always feel good when you're working out at the gym or when you're at home?

Speaker 2

or lifting weights. No, you get sore.

Speaker 3

You get sore, man. You get sore and we don't think that's strange. But when it comes to the things of god and us using our faith, we we act like it's strange, that we feel some kind of way about it. You know that it's like, yeah, man, I feel like that doesn't necessarily mean you endow, you know, an unbelief, it's just you could be aching because you're using that faith muscle in areas you hadn't done it before.

Speaker 2

Yeah, this talking to my, my therapist, and she she just be amazed because I just tell her these stories and and it's always my faith has always been tested. I come out victorious on the other end and she just congratulate me and it's like I love that you lean on your faith. In those situations I'm like what else there to lean on?

Speaker 3

What else is it, bro, I mean? I can't lean on myself bro, no dude if I got to be the source of my own strength dude. I ain't making it past the day, you know. I know the strength is perfected in our weakness, and our weakness and our and our inability to do it in of ourselves. Man Ah and bless that.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 3

And I'd rather have Look, I'd rather have Christ power resting on me than anybody else's.

Faith Tested Through Life's Challenges

Speaker 2

let alone mine dude no how was your week man? How was your week you?

Speaker 3

know it was testing. Yeah, it was testing, bro. It was testing, man, uh, last sunday man as you know man yeah. It was tested, bro. It was tested, man. Last Sunday man. As you know man, somewhere between Saturday night and Sunday morning our AC crashed man. It went out.

Speaker 3

And dude, it was squelching in here, man, I mean, it got almost up to 90 degrees. Oh Dude, it was just bad. In here, man, I mean, it got almost up to 90 degrees, oh Dude, it was just bad. In here, dude, it was bad. And so I called my heating and cooling guy on Sunday. I called him on Sunday, dude, he come out, and that's my boy too, his heating and cooling company. I never knew it until this time when he came out, but it's called IJN His heating and cooling company. I never knew it until this time when he came out, but it's called IJN Heating and Cooling. And I knew he was a believer because he's been my heating and cooling guy for about three years and I never asked him. You know what the IJN heating and cooling stood for? I just okay, man, it's, you know, okay, whatever. And but this time, man, I called him and I'm waiting, you know, for him to call me back.

Speaker 3

It's Sunday, so I, but I know a believer, so I'm like you, probably at church, you know, and you call me. You know when you get out or get get a minute, he calls back bro, he comes out, man, um, he said I'll be there within the hour. And, uh, and he's always been quick, I always come and I went to his website. So let me look at his website, bro, he had Isaiah six eight, you know, on his website, like on the main page, and I'm like, oh man, isaiah six eight, I'm pulling it up. I'm like, okay, yeah, you know, you know. And he was like you know, who shall we send? Well, here I am, lord, send me.

Speaker 3

I said, oh, man, that's dope for a business to have, that you know. And I said IJN. I said, man, I bet you that means in Jesus' name. And when he came and he was working on it, I said let me ask you a question, rob. And he was like yeah, I said came, and we, he was working on. I said let me ask you a question, rob. He was like yeah, I said ijn, does that mean in jesus name? Yes, sir, yes. I said, oh, come on, dog, you know we start going in about that. And, dude, he's like that's all I ever wanted. I wanted a company that I could represent, all I ever wanted. I wanted a company that I could represent, represent Christ, and I'm telling you he do all day.

Speaker 3

I've never seen a person that has not had one negative review posted. You got 125 reviews and they are five star, yes, everyone. And man, he was like, cause my whole point is I'm, I'm going, I'm not representing myself, you know, and uh, he's like, because my whole point is I, I'm, I'm going, I'm not representing myself, you know, and uh, he's like, and you fix people's equipment and stuff, especially healing and cooling. He's like, man, you're gonna be attached to these people for a while at least you hope to be, you know. And uh, yeah, man, so do have my heating, and I mean my.

Speaker 3

So the furnace man was, it was, it was shot, the repair was just crazy. So the stuff almost 40 years old, man, so I got a double lifespan out of it, but he had that whole system replaced furnace and AC man, by the next day, and it was, though. So that happened in our kitchen. Our refrigerator went out and we just went shopping. So, anyway, I could go on and on, but yeah, it was a week of testing and allowing my faith to flourish, and you know that we're in the building process on the house.

Speaker 3

They finally broke ground and I'm at work on Thursday. I get a call from the building and say, oh, now we need to discuss something. I'm like okay, what's what's going on? Man, we were building, you know, digging out the basement, and the water table is a lot higher than we thought it was. So your basement would have a water problem, but we're going to need to do something to fix that, you know, and all that stuff. So he was like now it ain't that, we can't. He was like but everything got a cost to it. So you know, here it is. Now that goes. So me and wife, we went out, man, after we got our work, we went and prayed over the land and everything had a chance to talk to the builder the next day. He said the engineer came out. He said, man, we got there. He said, actually, you know, most of the water was dried up because for us to meet him out there and talk about the thing we were like, okay, what's the problem? Like, where's all this water you was talking about?

Speaker 3

so he, he was like so I just want you to know, the water dried up like most of it, but there was obviously a problem, so we need to discuss it. Then he was like but we need to discuss it Monday, pray that it don't rain over the weekend. He said maybe you need to go to church. I said man, look, we got it, we got you covered. He just started laughing. I said no, I look, I said we got it, we got you covered. He just started laughing. I said no, I said we'll just pray that it won't rain, at least, at least not over the land where we at. You know he laughed and I said well, what do you think happened to the water overnight? You know, I said we went and prayed over the land last night. He started laughing.

Speaker 3

I said yeah, I mean he's laughing, but he was like, oh man, he was like okay, he was like so I don't know what kind of relationship you got. He said is it a? Is it a? What kind of line you have? That's what he said. I said a direct, one speed dial. You know, we laughed about that, do.

Righteous Indignation About Juneteenth

Speaker 3

But he was like you know, it is great working with somebody like that, like you guys. Is this better than an atheist, sure man? But it did give us the opportunity to, you know, to brag on the Lord man and to testify of him. Dude, amen, man, just let him be him. You know, let him be him, dude. But it takes faith and all it do is take us to speak it. We don't have to do it. Yeah, we just got to get up enough nerve to say it, dude. And then he opened that door. I didn't open it. He said, man, you better pray for rain. Maybe you need to go to church. See, he's equating a relationship with God to going to church. Bruh, excuse me, I actually am part of the church. You know, it's a kingdom thing, though. It's a game.

Speaker 2

Yeah, that's what I'm talking about. Yeah, I want to talk about. You know, our last episode was, you know, setting boundaries.

Speaker 3

Oh, the boundaries, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

And one thing you had said about, you know, being too restrictive on our boundaries, and you know loosen them up. So I did that yesterday Okay, loosen my boundaries and your vegan brother here went to a pig roast. A pig roast that yesterday Okay, loosen my boundaries and I your V, your vegan brother here, what's?

Speaker 3

boundaries, bro, you go, that's dope, that's dope.

Speaker 2

You know what? I would say this it may be if they had music, man and that was a lot of people there, a lot of fellowship and stuff like that, yeah, but no music. I was like oh man, like, what was that with that? That, just that's just how. I don't know, man, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, I don't know, no music of any kind Nothing, and so it was a small group of us just kept talking about that, having a conversation about no music.

Speaker 2

Like you know, the crowd spoke of country music. I'm like, even if it was country country, something, something melodic, going through.

Speaker 3

That yes, everything.

Speaker 2

Elevators have music, you know.

Speaker 1

I mean, yes, you gotta have that background noise, that's not.

Speaker 3

Look man, your life. Life has a soundtrack, right amen. And the different scenes and different movies have different songs.

Speaker 2

You got something right, so it was easy for me to cut it short on top of that. And so, like it's about man, it's about combinations, and I'm gonna say yeah because I was the only one man was. I was in a small group, it was vegetarian, and then there was a person that didn't even eat pork.

Speaker 3

Oh, okay.

Speaker 2

She said she felt rude for not wanting to eat the pork and so so she caves, man, and she them. And then she said she was about to. She started to feel awful.

Speaker 3

I'm like I'm sure I said every goodness people, people know about one thing about pork if you take a break from it for a long time oh my goodness, when you eat it, you're gonna get a headache bro, you going, bruh you, and it's hot too, and it's I mean, y'all was probably in a conditioned space, but no, it was outside oh it was outside oh, yeah, yeah.

Speaker 2

but I I was fortunate enough to miss the uh pig on thewer, so I was cool, you didn't have to see, you didn't have to see no. Last time I saw that I was like come on Bruh when you explained how that is.

Speaker 3

See, I still have never seen that, not in person, not in person.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, so when you said they go in and they just pulling off of it, bro and one thing about pork, bro, which is is crazy and uh, I saw an interview, a cannibal man person that had eaten in people before he was flesh, Compared it to pork. Compared it to pork. What yeah, he said. When you put it to a flame it smells like burning pork, you know? The flesh is the other white meat, you know, oh my God.

Speaker 3

That is what that is, because you ain't supposed to eat it, bro.

Speaker 2

That's why yeah so that's how we joke, man, but I was seeing a lot of pork sandwiches man's coming up there was all that, all of the pork, just green, dude.

Speaker 3

Let me, oh, look, I don't know why, just because we're talking about it. But, dude, I remember because I don't eat pork either. Well, let me clarify that. I don't eat most pork, bro. If I have pizza, I get the pepperoni. I'm sorry, man, I get the pepper, bro. But, bro, I remember my wife, man, because she eat all the pork, she eat the bacon. I can't stand when she's frying bacon, oh my God. But, dude, I remember one time that she was cooking some sausage links.

Speaker 3

Oh, I was standing over the stove, man, and the actual sausage links burst like and it was spitting out all this pork juice I almost chucked all in that skillet bro man you're giving me sick over here, man.

Speaker 2

it's bringing me to these two words righteous indignation, and I got a few things you allow me to steal.

Speaker 3

Of course Okay.

Speaker 2

So that right there. So I go to these places, man, and they have. They have these dishes that have meat in it. Well, you could just pick it out, man, what? Oh yeah oh yeah, what you just explained, that happens. All that. The essence of the meat pops into it, it's all inside the food. So you want me to just, okay, just pick out the flesh, the meat juice, all over everything I can pick out the flesh, but but the essence of the flesh is all in the best.

Speaker 3

Oh, we don't spill it man?

Speaker 2

Yeah, and this is an example, because I got to go extreme for them to understand. I said what if I had a turd and put it in there? And I just tell you, just take the turd out, but you still eat it.

Speaker 1

No, that's disgusting. Whoa you know, pork ain't like a turd?

Speaker 3

Yes, it is to me, To you, to a vegan to a vegetarian absolutely, or a fly, or a fly, right, dude, because. What a simple fact is. Because, look, you don't have a vendetta against turds. I mean, you do them yourself as a vegan.

Speaker 3

You know what I mean. So we have this in common. I actually hold this as almost a higher abomination, Because I have nothing to do with meat at all, you know in that regard. So you know, I'm going to clean it with turds, bro. I ain't going to clean it with your little pork meat and just pick that out. Just just get that like. What's your big deal about that?

Speaker 2

yeah, I can see how that's a righteous indignation or a flat like I just take the flat out yeah, just take it out, stop it.

Speaker 3

Right. Right, you had more of them. Come on, what's?

Speaker 2

the other righteous. And so I told you I don't know. I came on to the podcast and say I went to work on Juneteenth, pulled up, pulled up to the parking lot, park like empty, Like yeah, yeah, but I know when I woke up, I know it was June 19th.

Speaker 2

So my, my thing is that we work four days a week and so, uh, june 10th was that monday, and usually when we have a four day weekend it's celebrated and spoken about everybody. Hey, we got a four day weekend by dancing you the last days is you know? It's no, really no stress that day, right?

Speaker 2

Yeah so nobody man was just so weird, it was so quiet on that front. Nobody talked about that. Now you know you mentioned the word Juneteenth, none of that. And so one thing that our break here we have a, we have a team leader that decorates our break area and whatever holidays come. She's a very festive lady, and so Halloween, black and orange everywhere, christmas, christmas, easter, eggs and bunny rabbits.

Speaker 3

Absolutely yes.

Speaker 2

Memorial and Fourth of July.

Speaker 3

Everything, all the pomp and circumstance.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so it's nothing for Juneteenth.

Speaker 3

Crickets.

Speaker 2

Not matter of fact, this left the death, the Memorial Day and the same decoration Memorial Day. He saved it, wow, rough July. And so I saw that lady who decorated, who usually decorate the break room, and I said she.

Speaker 3

She just wanted, just for clarification she's white or black.

Speaker 2

No, she's Mexican. How about that? Okay?

Speaker 3

How about that yeah?

Speaker 1

All right, that's a twist, that's an interesting twist.

Speaker 2

Man, yeah Right, this is yeah. Thank you for asking, uh, if you listen to this podcast, all love, but I'm gonna, I'm gonna speak my truth and uh, so my, my. So I was telling, I was telling my teammate on day shift like I.

Speaker 2

I blame such and such because she didn't decorate the break area so when I finally saw that teammate, I was like you know, what did you hear about my story about juneteenth? No, that's why I'll tell her there. And she started laughing and she said uh, she said, of all people, you shouldn't forget juneteenth. I, you know, I was blaming you for not decorating. And she started laughing and bra, here it comes, man, oh, this, she says this. She says okay, next time I just decorated in all zebra.

Speaker 1

She said zebra, she didn't go there with it.

Speaker 2

No, she said Zebra, and I was like you know what? You know, because we're kingdom people, Right, right, right. We expect the best out of everyone. So hearing that, when you hearing that, it shook me like for a hot second.

Speaker 3

I bet it did and like like, because this is my girl right, right, how. How do I process this?

Speaker 2

oh so in real time. So I just like okay, I said no, man, I said no, the colors are red, black and green right right so I'll let her. She walks off then. Then I started to stew, bro. I started to stew.

Speaker 1

Oh man.

Speaker 2

I was stewing. I was like, holy Spirit, help me figure out what to say, right, because one of the things I'm in therapy is to start speaking my mind. Yeah, but you learn how to speak my mind without anger.

Speaker 3

Without anger.

Speaker 2

Yeah, Because when I'm angry I can say what I really want to say.

Speaker 3

Oh, no doubt, whatever, exactly. Yeah, because I I, when I'm angry, I can say that, I can say what I really, oh, oh, no doubt but I, I'm, I'm so reserved out and sometimes I just, you know, I'm kind of passive at times.

Speaker 2

Yeah and and so I got found out the right thing to say so on my way out I was leaving, I said um, because she was in the break area and you know it was still decorated. So I pointed the tables and they one one was red, white and blue. And I pointed, I said I said next time, next juneteenth, remember the colors are red, black and green and I said none of that zebra stuff, because you will get yourself in trouble. Have a nice weekend, right, carry moving, bro that bro, that's dope, that's dope.

Speaker 3

Look, you got, man, that way you were able to express that and also put her on a little bit of a you know, put on a bit of a swivel man. And when it comes to you, can't just be saying stuff without thinking about it, man, because, bro, like you said, as kingdom people, you know, we are always trying to be at least cognizant of what we say and what we're speaking, because we are intending to not offend, which is probably why you, the, the person didn't decorate and all of I don't know her, you know, but you know you said she, she good people. She's saying like she good people. But that's probably why she let that ride and because she didn't want to offend somebody. But what about the people that what you do offending?

Speaker 3

Even if you didn't decorate June for Juneteenth, you let the Memorial Day colors roll all the way through, all the way to the 4th of July. So those colors rolled right over Juneteenth, you know, and there was no recognition. So you're not worrying about offending. In all things, bro, we're going to offend somebody at some point, but we got to be respectful to all. So we're either going to represent and hold up the standard across the board, or let's just don't do it at all.

Speaker 3

If we're going to get to a group of people that you are about being, because you know we're bro, we just we're poor, we're polarizing people and that's just just just the fact.

Speaker 3

I just have to say that black people, man, for some reason is I mean to the, not that we intended to be, but people make us that way, they make us polarizing man, they, you know when they I mean it was I was in Ann Arbor yesterday at an art fair man and it, and it was just the fact, and you know me, I'm a big dude, I'm not a small guy and uh, you can tell man, you know that uh, my presence there was causing some people discomfort, and you can see it, and I and bro and thing is the people I'm like, if you don't even knew who I was, man, I like one of the sweetest guys, you know.

Speaker 3

But you're just looking at me and because not only am I black, I'm dark and I'm big. So you know, and I'm, I'm, I'm looking a little bit dude, I mean, I look, I felt in some moments like I was one of the one of the booths set up, the way that I was being looked at because I'm in ann arbor, you know. You know what I mean at an art fair, bro. And uh, and the ones who, who, the black people who were there, were very unassuming. Yeah, you know, in it or in, they were there. Probably most of them were, with some, you know, white people.

Speaker 2

Yeah.

Speaker 3

You know. But but I'm, you know, I'm with my family and we all, you know, black. So it was it got it got weird, if you let it. I just didn't let it get weird and I was like Lord, please help these people to relax. But I ain't going to Al Jolson either. No, no, big smiles and stuff like that to make you feel better, I mean. But I'm just smiling or cheery just because I'm jovial anyway. But I'm not going to put on the big, big face for you to, you know, to make everybody feel you know to relax, I'm like Lord, just get them up, straighten them out, you know, let them relax and have fun, you know.

Speaker 2

I'm kind of surprised by that Cause. One thing about Ann Arbor is it's a progressive city.

Speaker 3

It is, it is.

Speaker 2

Uh yeah, like when you say when I was living out there I felt you know, cause I had an interracial relationship.

Speaker 3

I felt welcomed out there.

Speaker 2

It was like no regard yes. Yeah, yeah, very progressive with that.

Speaker 3

But we were on all black cast. You know what I mean. So it kind of you know. I mean you know every. I said everybody did. I'm just saying it was just really weird for a few people. Oh, you know, you know, especially you know this, this version of black, or what they probably have in their mind, and it's an art fair. Like, really, what are you? Is this really something you're interested in, or are you down? Here to make trouble, you know, you know what I mean you know you could tell it, bro, you could tell it.

Speaker 2

But I will say this though I do know a friend of mine told me especially doing the George Floyd stuff, it was a little great big divide out there. So even even as progressive it was. Yeah. In that element, it creep in and kind of, do it, it does.

Speaker 3

Yeah, for sure, for sure. But, those are unresolved issues, bro, and those are things that you know. I'm all about bringing resolution and reconciliation to stuff. I'm like OK, bro, you know, first it happened, let's all acknowledge that, let's don't try and get rid of it and sweep it under the rug, and let's just recognize it and renounceounce it. Bro, I'm I'm gonna preach that forever oh yeah until until christ returned, and and you ain't got no choice but to renounce it.

Speaker 2

But uh, dude, I mean I'm gonna pronounce it you know, and one, one interesting thing that my, my, uh, the other team leader said to me she's like you, you're black. You should know I'm like you. Know what I said. I said I know. I said don't get me wrong. I said I didn't know when I woke up, I know what day it was, Right, I said but people don't take this holiday seriously. Seriously Right, exactly it's just it's treated as an afterthought.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

And so that's that was my going into it. Like are we going to, are we getting the day off or what?

Speaker 3

And so I found it took me to me drive to work to find that Right, right For the, for the really hit you like, oh yeah. So they actually do, okay, acknowledge and respect it to this, to disregard at least.

Speaker 2

And you know, and she knows what I said was true, because she not a history. Yeah, you're right. And then you know it's like what. The second year I say yeah and like, and then the fact that nobody even talked about it. Right, right and I guess in my area, or in my area, or it's my area, is three, three lines right. And out of the three lines. It's just three black people. So I was like Come on, man, hook me up man.

Speaker 3

Right.

Speaker 2

I know I'm in the minority, but I could probably oh right, the only only thing that's Juneteenth in that plant is the union and you have flyers, oh.

Speaker 3

OK.

Speaker 2

You know, recognize, but they're smaller flyers sitting around right now.

Speaker 3

but it's, it is an acknowledgement it is an acknowledgement and I, and it is a young holiday and we gotta yeah somewhere.

Defending MLK's Legacy

Speaker 2

So yeah, all right, the next one, bro. This would have me eat it. I got a sister that we share posts on Instagram, so she sent me this post man, and this post was dog and Dr Martin Luther.

Speaker 1

King.

Speaker 2

The post was talking about the Dr Martin Luther King didn't write his I have a dream speech and they had help. And then the fact the help was from a Jewish man, his name was Stanley Levinson, and it's like I was like, oh, and so I sometimes I let some of these posts go and I just scroll right, but this is, I had to say something that uh, you know, we got people got to understand.

Speaker 2

Man like dr martin luther king was the face of the civil rights movement absolutely and whatever he did and said was under a microscope yes, it was and of course he had help he, of course he had advisors man, yes, and of course he had colleagues to help craft his speeches who doesn't?

Speaker 2

the president has helped to do it thank you and and and and do, and I'm looking at, I'm going through the, the comment section, and they just going in on me, wow, you know, and like mal, and like Malcolm X was right and this and this and that, and, oh, and you know he was a plant. A plant for what? For who?

Speaker 3

Yes, who was playing? Who planted them?

Speaker 2

Yeah, like thanks, man, I was just angry and I'm right now I'm starting to feel those feelings again. But look, this is what. I said. I said who didn't know Martin Luther King Jr? Has, you know, several advising colleagues to help him craft his speeches for the I have a dream speech. He drew a range of sources and inspirations. The much of the final delivery was improvised improv Absolutely Sure.

Speaker 2

And his own vision absolutely absolutely not to mention that he was attacked multiple times and his and his home was bombed, and he was arrested many times multiple times absolutely and he was ultimately assassinated at the age of 39.

Speaker 1

Mm, hmm.

Speaker 2

And he was a plant, and I said, and I said, our community is so weird. I see, I see so many people caping for our Kelly and Diddy, but I want to throw a little heroes, the hero the true hero.

Speaker 3

You want to tear down MLk because he had right, he had help writing a speech dude, dude, it's, it's, it's so, it's so, in line with with the holy spirit, because this morning I was, I was just studying the word this morning and I was talking, you know, I was looking at the uh, when in in Romans, when it talks about how beautiful are the feet of those who carry the gospel, you know, and uh, and preach the gospel of good, good, you know, of peace and good tidings, and, and I'm reading that, and of course we know Jesus and all you know we know that was all about that.

Speaker 3

But Holy Spirit is so relevant, man, and he's so dope, because I had no idea I didn't even know what we was going to talk about when we got on today. We didn't discuss this and you brought up Martin Luther King and this being a righteous indignation, bruh, I was like Lord. He was like beautiful are the feet. You know, I'm like what's a beautiful, what's a beautiful person? And and when you and I looked it up, man, and it says, you know, uh, a person like it's like the for a season or that time, you know, and if somebody has a message for that time and I'm like Lord and Holy Spirit is like, like Martin Luther King he was, he would be considered a person who had beautiful feet or a person that carried this message, because he had a perfect message for his time. And he brought that up, martin Luther King, bro, and he brought that up, martin Luther King, bro, and if the Holy Spirit is illuminating Martin Luther King as being an example of what that is, and you are righteously indignant because people are telling me he had his speech written for him or whatever, and you're trying to bring in ethnicity I don't know what the jewish thing got to do with anything, right, you know, just like, are you trying to bring more attention and hype and credit because the person is jewish over martin luther king, who happens to be black and he was, for you know, in fact the jews held martin luther king over in israel. He's he's actually hailed and herald in Israel way higher than he is over here. They have a statue of Martin Luther King over there and I know we finally got one, but they been had one of Martin Luther King. But don't nobody talk about that, that it's a statue of Martin Luther King in Israel, you know, and this and that, because to have a Jewish nation, that's uplifting this black man as being a hero and you know, for all people, because his message was for everybody. So that's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Like, who planted them? Because it ain't like he tore down any people. He said that his vision was that we all sit together at the table of brotherhood, as brother and sister, and black and whites, and everyone at this table, and that's a kingdom message, bro. You know. And and before, monleuth king was a civil rights leader. He was a gospel preacher. So who was he planning it for? If, yeah, if he was a civil rights leader. He was a gospel preacher, so who was he planning it for? If he was a plant, it was God who planted them.

Speaker 2

Oh my God, we were taught a lie, everything we know.

Speaker 3

Oh my God, shut up up a lot, oh yes I was and I man, I think I wrote I wrote that.

Speaker 2

I posted that comment maybe days ago, man, I think, oh my god, this might have been thursday.

Speaker 3

I haven't got a response yet I've been waiting be you know what? Because they're, because they people know. How do you respond to that? How are you going to overcome that argument, you know? Are you putting that out there? And then, like you said, and brought and brought the truth to. Okay, let's say he, they did write a lot of that message, but the version we got, like you said, when he was up there preaching or proclaiming this speech, was improv, was he? It was something he was given out of his own spirit and, you know, because because that initial speech was not connecting with the people and he saw that a good preacher or a person, a proclaimer, that's something man, let's get rid of this preacher thinking it's a clergy and a theologian.

Speaker 3

A preacher is simply a public crier, a person who proclaims the message. They a person. Do you know how important? This is why he said that god used the foolishness of preaching to confound the wise. He, he didn't use foolish preachers. He used the foolishness of preaching meaning to do just just cry the message. And this is why jesus could be out in the streets and be like come to me all who are burdened heavy lane. We, I know we read it like it's just come to me all who are burdened and heavy laden. I know we read it like come to me who are burdened and heavy. Jesus was yelling in a marketplace. He was a town crier.

Speaker 3

A town crier is a person that rings the bell and tell you, hear ye, hear ye. The word of the king is that all meet in the Times Square. You know, tonight at 6 pm. And because, why? Because back in the day Square, you know, tonight at 6 pm. And because I? Because back in the day, bro, do people know? Printing, press, communication, all this stuff. This is new technology. This technology is just 100, 150 years old.

Speaker 3

Up to up to that point, all communication were done by preachers, by proclaimers, heralders, town criers, the British are coming, the British are coming. If your boy, paul Revere, doesn't come and warn the British are coming, that's gonna be a sneak attack, bro, and that mean more people are gonna die. More people are not because we're not even prepared. We're not even. We don't know what to do. This is why when Paul says that if a person is held in a message and you can't understand what they're saying, then we're in trouble because we don't even know how to respond.

Speaker 3

That's what the rebuke about speaking in tongues and stuff over pre you know, saying things in the language everybody can understand, was a beef, because he was like, if everybody's just gonna gather together and speak in tongues, then man, what we can't even say, man, because I don't even know what's happening unless there be an interpreter, right, you know, who can interpret this message and dude, that's what we need.

Speaker 3

We need more town criers, more people like what you're doing, like somebody come in and say something crazy like that, that can come in and say something and give a comment, to give people a moment of pause to think about this stuff. Man, I mean righteous, righteous indignation. That's a good, that's a good topic for this podcast. Things that makes you righteously indignant, be righteous being the key word, though, can't just be pissed about everything, but, but it's gotta be a righteous indignation that rises up. Man, people have got to get righteously indignant about injustice and things like that, not just about one topic for one group of people, but people, period, and that's martin luther king did that and he was killed for it he's 39 years old absolutely and just that short span of his life.

Speaker 3

He moved the needle he, he did, he moved it huge, huge. And and here's the thing people like, well, I mean I hear preachers and everybody who man ripping down. You know he, he was sitting there cheating and all this stuff and all he had. No, you know god's covering what, knowing him and this, and I'm like, oh, oh, so god is punishing cheaters.

Speaker 3

Okay, so this bible that you're reading, you know david, who you herald to be a superhero in the scriptures, bro, he killed, he conspired, he cheated, he did it. And god still said this dude is a man after my own heart. Yeah, yeah, didn't just was going to judge him. And he repented for it. And the Lord said OK, we good, as long as you recognize what now is one thing about David man, when David found out, you know, he got caught up and because he got passions, just like anybody else. But when he realized that what he did offended God, bro, he switched, he repented quick, he changed up and he didn't care, you know, about what people thought about him and he would switch up and that's all God wants. Man, are you repentful for this stuff, you know? Yeah, well then, we, good man, we, gucci, bro, you ain't even got to. You don't walk around, no guilt on it or whatever. Now there's some consequences that still go on.

Speaker 3

Because he wanted to build God the temple and he was like man. You know, you're my boy, but because of China's history and you got a lot of blood on your hands my temple has got to be a place of peace. So I can't really have a man of war build my temple, so, but to be a place of peace, so I can't really have a man of war build my temple. So, yeah, but I let your son do it and he was good to go and he and he was like and you know what, and since my son gonna be doing it, I'm just gonna start stockpiling stuff for him. Lord, is that cool? Can I do that? Yeah, yeah, that's good, that's dope, and and he so he prepared for the next generation. Dude, we, what about? This is the kind of stuff we got to get down with man what about abraham and hagar?

Speaker 3

dude, right, that's just league, that was just prostitution. His wife, his wife, took her hand made and she was. That was a brothel move, bro yeah. You know, go in and sleep with my handmaiden my handmaiden.

Speaker 1

So basically, it's the person that's here to serve me and she's going to serve me by you sleeping with her and her having our baby Bruh.

Speaker 3

And he said Abraham, that's my friend, bro, that's my dog, and you better watch what you say about him, cause I will, I'll, bless those that bless him, but guess what, I will curse those that curse him. You know that, dude, that just people better be careful, bro. People better be careful. You better be careful who you put your mouth on, because the thing is, god is still the same. He said I'm the same yesterday, the day forever, when it's people who God lift up and you front off on them.

Religious Symbols vs. Kingdom Focus

Speaker 3

He said look, you blaspheme against me, jesus, you just talk about me Cool, talk about even the father Cool, father, cool, I will, we'll forgive that, but if you speak out against the holy spirit, he said bruh, that's, and, and that means people who are moving under the influence of the holy spirit. That's why jesus said y'all gonna tell me the works I'm doing, y'all gonna tell me the works I'm doing is inspired by a demon. He's like oh, y'all in dangerous territory, bro, it ain't like you trying to just diss me, or even diss the Father, but you dissing the work of the Spirit and gonna equate it with a demonic activity. Yeah, oh, dog. That's why you say touch not, mind annoying it and don't do my profits no harm. He's like look, I'm warning you, you better back off. Just like dude, just like any, any situation, if you tight with somebody, man like that's my boy you.

Speaker 3

You mess with him, you messing with me. You know why do we think God is different? It's people that's closer to God than other people, and that's by choice. God ain't putting that distance between people, people putting that distance between them and God. What did the children of Israel do, man, when God wanted to be in relationship with all his people? What did his people say?

Speaker 3

this dude is scary bro yeah, um moses bruh, you go and kick it with him and just whatever you say, he say we'll, we'll do it. And moses, all right, you know. And? And what did the? And what did god say? Moses, that's my boy, that's my friend. We talk face to face and you know that day, if that's what y'all?

Speaker 3

want, then okay, we'll keep it like that. It's the same thing we're doing today. Bro people, ben you just, your relationship with god is only through jesus. It's only through jesus. Look, just whatever Jesus said about God. That's what it'll be, and you don't have a personal relationship with the Father. This is what Jesus said. I can't. How should we pray, lord, say this, our Father.

Speaker 1

Yes, sir.

Speaker 3

I'm coming to give you access. Jesus literally said look, the father loves you just as much as he loves me. Man, do it in my name, but that doesn't mean that you hide behind the name of Jesus. That means that you take on his character, his nature, his authority. You speak like he speaks because the father is gonna listen. He's a dude. Don't pray to me, for nothing else. Don't come to me asking me can you go pray?

Speaker 2

you go and ask him come on, bro, tell me about it stop it stop it and that thing too, I was. I was just thinking about, uh, the climate right now, everybody's, uh, you know, every uh, everybody's like losing hope and fear from maga man. Could you imagine, man? Look, the civil rights movement was way worse than what we experienced oh man, oh way worse man separate uh water fount man.

Speaker 1

Oh way worse, oh good.

Speaker 2

Separate water fountains and stuff like that. We couldn't even stop it.

Speaker 3

Oh, no, no, no. Read the comments.

Speaker 2

Man, then it was and it was going at the Rosa Parks. She was a fan, I mean who.

Speaker 3

I want to know who doing these plans Well, who was benefiting from that?

Speaker 2

You know what?

Speaker 3

I mean.

Speaker 2

That's what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Man, no man, Because black people didn't have enough power to plant nobody, and America wasn't trying to here, giving black people at the time no rights, equal rights and all that stuff. So who was the plant? Who was planning them?

Speaker 2

I was waiting for an answer. I just kept on seeing. Martin Luther King was the plan, Rosa Parks was the plan. Martin Luther King's real name was Michael and all that what? Does that say it has to?

Speaker 3

do with anything, dude. That's saying that spirit of crappery man. It's just, it is around, it's still around, just like this crap man. When people like, well, you know, you got to call him, you know it's yahweh and you know it's not, you don't say Jehovah. The J's were silent in the Hebrew culture. Well, the J's aren't silent. In English, we say the J's. You don't call him Jesus, he's Yahshua. That's why a lot of people's prayers okay, hold up.

Speaker 3

See righteous indignation. Rosie, you started it, you released it. I hate that crap. Man. People, you know your prayers is being hindered because his name is really Yahshua. It's not. You know, it's not Jesus. So when you go and who you calling? When you call the name of Jesus Bruh, are you a fool? Are you an idiot? You think jesus came through 40 and six generations, that god for 4 000 years was fighting to get his son into the earth to pay the sins, for the, for man to be reconciled them and brought back into fellowship with him through the sacrifice of his only begotten son, that we all could be restored to God. And he's putting a wall up because I mispronounced the name man.

Speaker 2

Come on, man, I dude we're not as a religious spirit, is you, you and I? When you were just telling me, we were talking about how we know we supposed to have reverential fear for god but like absolutely everything we do don't have to be spiritual and that's the thing, bro.

Speaker 3

the thing the thing is, people are thinking that it's spiritual when we are focusing on god and we're invoking him. God, bro, he's not a entity that you're trying to bring up and conjure him, he's a person. He's our father. The Holy Spirit is with us all. He said I will pour out my spirit upon just this many people, or did he say upon all flesh? He said all flesh.

Speaker 3

so the Holy Spirit is here with us all and so some of us have received him no different than us bringing somebody in our house. If somebody is here, they on the street, they can bless, they're here to bless everybody. But only a few people invite a man. But that doesn't mean that you didn't have the access. That means you're just not benefiting from it because you're choosing to not. But, dude, don't you dare. Oh crap, oh my God, man, my words, I can't see, I'm pissed, I'm out of the spirit.

Speaker 3

But, like you said, we're putting differences, just like we had a conversation between the secular and's spiritual. When I go to church, or if we're talking or we're gathering for this quote unquote air, quote spiritual reason. But we don't understand that when we gather together just to celebrate life, just to enjoy each other's company, that is as much of a spiritual gathering as if you were to go to church. Because I didn't seem. I didn't been to so many carnal church services that it was ridiculous, and I went to a gathering that they wasn't even talking about God. But the love for each other was so, so heavy and it was such an enjoyable atmosphere that it was more god at the party than it was at the church and then like uh, some people don't.

Speaker 2

I said like because god has to be everything. So what about? What is your job? So your job, I work at four motor company. So should I not work at four motor Cause it doesn't have God in the name or in the building or the plant manager talks about God, I cut, stop it. But yeah, so it makes me upset when they apply that when it comes to music, like I can't listen to that.

Speaker 3

I can't listen to that cause it's secular they ain't saying nothing about God, okay, but they're talking about marriage. They're talking about love. They're talking about love. They're talking about fun, joy and all that stuff. Well, look at how they're talking about the marriage and stuff, okay. Okay, teach them then, because that's our whole thing. Teach them that they don't have to use the explicative words to express themselves in being able to do it. Teach them the explicative words to express themselves and being able to do it. Teach them. But until you take, I'm going to teach them how to do this in a better way, don't need to change the, the, the message, just maybe your delivery of it, because it can be offensive to some people because you're using language that you don't need to really have to listen to. But they, coming from the streets, that's the language they got. That's how they express themselves. This is what the Lord said. Go into the world and teach them. Teach them, don't change them. Teach them. I don't want to change what people are doing.

Speaker 3

See, I ran when I was a Christian and religious. I tried to change my daughter. I didn't. I didn't get stand back and see what giftings and stuff that God put in her and then teach her how I. I tried to change her. I tried to change her into this image and stuff that I thought she should be as a person that's representing God, man. But it wasn't until I quit being a Christian and started pursuing the kingdom that I understood like, oh wow, god, put that in her. He appreciates that gift.

Speaker 3

And and, oh man, oh my God, why does every song got to be about God? Got to mention his name, for he is not suffering from insecurity. Oh my God, I can't believe. A whole five-minute song and they didn't mention, do people know, one of the greatest books in the Bible, the book of Esther. Doesn't mention God at all, doesn't mention his name once. But it's a powerful book, he's all through it. He's all through it.

Speaker 3

And, oh my god, man, just, and that was a beauty pageant. You know esther was. She got one, a beauty pageant to become the queen's wife. Yeah, it was her beauty, it was how she looked in a pageant. And somebody would be like, yeah, see, god ain't about that.

Speaker 3

The about the Miss America. I can't believe they have Miss America shows and isn't that OK, that's, that's your problem, that's not God's problem. God, you don't think God can appreciate beauty and appreciate that? We appreciate and guess what? We're not saying that one person, you know, miss America, is not just chosen or whatever beauty project. They're not just chosen just because how good they look. They're chosen on a plethora of things that's combined and say, oh man, you know, overall this person would be considered the best beautiful representation of this pageant and we pick a winner. What's wrong with that? God picked the one.

Speaker 3

Do you think Mary was the only virgin that was in Israel when God picked her to birth Jesus? She wasn't the only virgin. He said Mary highly favored among among women. So I'm looking at a bunch of them, but guess what girl you, you my favorite? What made her his favorite? It wouldn't. It had to be a plethora of things that made her his favorite and dude highly favored so it means he he favored other women, she was just highly favored, she was among all women.

Speaker 2

So anyway, dude yeah, that's that part of it. I was having a conversation with somebody was saying they sent me a message. Like I listen to your podcast, you know which, I have two, and I said which. I said which one oh, the gospel twins, because I don't listen to secular music anymore. I was like man, are you serious?

Speaker 3

oh, because you got two podcasts. You got music book. Yeah, guys were twins. So you said which podcast do you listen to? And she always. So she had, oh, the gospel twins. Because I don't listen to you, just and I was like I'm cool.

Speaker 2

Thank you for your support. I appreciate it, but I went back like that shouldn't keep you from listening to the other one.

Speaker 3

No, not at all, you know it's music appreciation is a good bro. I always tell people the biggest book in the bible is a music book. It's a book of songs and and poetry and so it's big. Music is big with god and people like, well, yeah, but every book in the song in the body was about god. Well, the whole book is about god. That's a particular book is the bible, but do you think that there are no other books that exist? You think that god have a problem when we read shakespeare, you know, although shakespeare do mention god, but anyway you know what I mean exactly you know what I mean?

Speaker 3

it's a lot more thing. He give us all things richly to enjoy joy.

Speaker 2

Hey, thank you, man, that's uh. Yeah, we got family, people of god. We got to get past this. Yeah, man, and I was talking to a sister man I ain't she had on the cross man, I was like speaking of righteous indignation another's another thing, I know it is and we had a whole podcast yeah, a whole podcast about it, right, absolutely and, matter of fact, this person listening to the podcast.

Speaker 3

People love their religion they do, they do, they do and do. And what's wrong with that? Once you hear something and you know to do better, do better it ain't even about everybody. Man, I got so much stuff with cross. I'm so tired of seeing christian merch. All gotta have crosses on them, dude, oh yes I got a lot.

Speaker 2

I got to sort through it because I was looking for this. I was like it's a thanksgiving shirt. I saw on on amazon it it was something about Christ, are you man? I forgot, but it had something to do with are you following Jesus?

Speaker 1

And it's like F-A-L-L-O.

Speaker 2

No dash O-W-E-E-N. Are you following Jesus? Oh, okay, oh dash WEEN. Are you following?

Speaker 1

Oh OK, oh yeah yeah.

Speaker 2

So what in a Halloween are you following? Yeah, that's dope, and but there are so many versions of that shirt and that same and I wanted just the one with just that no cross and yeah, yeah. And it took me a while to find that.

Breaking Cultural Boundaries

Speaker 3

Okay, yeah, they love it bro they love it, and I love what it did too, bro, but we, we gotta go beyond that I love his phone, bro, a lot, a lot greater than that cross bro.

Speaker 2

And he's on the throne way longer than he was on that cross.

Speaker 3

The cross was a day. The throne is eternal bro.

Speaker 2

But you're going to focus on that, you're going to focus on that one day. Well, we were reconciled because of that day.

Speaker 3

Yes, we were. Are you still thinking about your bank account from five years ago? I'm sure you reconciled your bank account at some point. I hope you did. You know, so you know what you got. But now are you still going back to the day that you reconciled your bank account? You know what I mean, dude. Come on, stop man.

Speaker 1

This stuff is ridiculous, bro, you said the crown is eternal.

Speaker 3

That's what you're talking about.

Speaker 2

That should be the same. I would even be cool with the fish man. You know the fish.

Speaker 3

I'd take the fish over the cross.

Speaker 2

I'd definitely take the fish over the cross yeah at least the fish ain't the symbol of a curse, bro, it's such. And then that crucifixion is so bad, it's just terrible, horrible. They don't even do it anymore. You know what I'm saying?

Speaker 3

like right, it's, it's inhumane, bro, they won't allow it, they wanna, and that just goes to show you that the kingdom is advancing. People think that the word society, like you just said, what we're going through today is nothing like they went through the civil, civil rights and all that. No, this, this is letting you know that message, that that, whatever you want to say about martin luther king, that message, like you said, it moved the needle we are experiencing certain, certain freedoms that we do have, as good as america has gotten is.

Speaker 2

It's because of that and all dude stop he moved the needle so much when he, when he was assassinated, the people that thought a certain way changed their feelings changed up they changed their thought process.

Speaker 3

Oh, I'm sorry, go ahead, man no, they.

Speaker 2

They changed their thought process because they said, wow, this man was nothing but kind he was and he was willing to die for it, bro.

Speaker 3

Peaceful, non-violent. What would he ask people to do before they go on the march? He said if you can't be non-violent, do not march with us, he told him. He said if you can't do this, then don't march. I'd rather you not show your support publicly if you think when because he know it's going to get hot out here they going to come for us. And if you can't respond with nonviolence and peace, because that's what we're marching for, then don't march with us. And people don't know that Malcolm X and Martin Luther King were talking a lot more in those last days and Malcolm's message was switching. That's why the date they had him killed, mm-hmm. Oh, we don't have both these, you know. At least they had the kind of the good and evil balance. You know. You got Martin over here and Malcolm over here, but Malcolm was starting to sway. It wasn't by any means necessary anymore.

Speaker 2

No, especially after he came.

Speaker 3

He went to Mecca, he came back from Mecca, absolutely, absolutely he was adopting the ways of peace man, and they killed him for it, because he was switching up.

Speaker 2

And calling people out, people in leadership. He was calling them absolutely, absolutely, hey, people, that absolutely calling them hypocrites.

Speaker 3

You know for your transgressions. You're trying to sit here and have this and put it again. It's the pharisee thing, man, you. You're trying to put the all this yolks and stuff on the people and, and, and.

Speaker 2

You are way worse than that yeah, yes, yes, oh, my um, both of them and they both, they did, they both died in the same age I?

Speaker 3

I'm not sure, but they weren't they weren't too far from each other.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they both was in the 30s. I know malcolm's definitely 39 dude man.

Speaker 3

Yeah, this is the stuff, man, that we. We gotta correct. This stuff we can't. Don't fear what's happening. Don't don't have all of that's propaganda, man. This, this is all propaganda. And if they can control you with the propaganda and get you to fear, then that because you, because we're called to live by faith, bro, and to walk by faith and not by sight, walk by what you know is true because of your relationship with God. Don't walk by what it looks like is true.

Speaker 3

The economy is not bad. There's nothing wrong with the economy. It's the way the economy is being steered. And and the thing, why? Cause the money ain't went nowhere, the materials ain't went nowhere, ain't nothing. But when you got people that's falling out in relationships and threatened countries, ain't even cool, no more, and can't, we can't do business without all this, bro. I went to, I went to a food truck, dude, and and bought just some food, you know, for four people, man, and it was like 80 bucks. I'm like dude, what, why, why? What changed from when I came two weeks ago, or, you know, two months ago or whatever?

Speaker 3

It was half that then. And so the only what has changed, that's what we. We were taught that in the diagnostic field when I worked for a heating and cooling company. When you're diagnosing something, what change? If you can't find anything with the appliance, that's wrong. Because we didn't came out so many times to people's house. It's running fine. Well, it wasn't eating. Your thing now is what changed?

Speaker 3

And so we ask them have you done anything new with the house? Or anything like that. Like, uh, no, we ain't done nothing new with the house. We like I just don't get it, because this, the system is working fine, so I don't know why it's not heating. Um, I, you know what? We?

Speaker 3

We did change the doors and change the door and like, did you change the door on the mechanical room? Like, yeah, and they put a whole, a solid door on a mechanical room. Well, your furnace is in there and it's combustible. So if you starve it it's got to either have no door on it or it gotta have a louver door. You can't put a solid door on it, so the solid door keeps it from getting oxygen and guess what, when it tries to fire up, it cuts back out because it's not getting any oxygen. But that goes to show you people no, no, we do nothing different. You know, you just don't know what you're doing. You know, you just don't know what you're doing. But I get all that and then we find out you got a solid door on your.

Speaker 3

It's always something that happened. What has changed? And this is what we should always ask. Don't ever question if what god has done for you works. It works every time. It's. It's his word, bro. It created everything in the beginning was the word so you don't ever have to wonder does the word work?

Speaker 3

it works. But if you're, if you, does the word work? It works. But if you're, if you're speaking his word and you're not getting the results, don't question God and don't say it's sovereign and he's decided not to do it for me. He would never do that. Ask yourself, or ask the Holy spirit better. Yet, what am I doing wrong? What's and you may not be doing anything wrong. What am I missing? What's changed? And always, where it can be a plethora thing and he could just be like oh, you doing everything right, it's just this.

Speaker 3

This devil over here is just he's blocking it. You know every time, every time, you know he's, he's fighting and blocking your blessing. You know Shouldn't be possible. Why? Why because the angel of the Lord should automatically be stronger. Why should he? Because he's an angel of the Lord.

Speaker 3

God's kingdom works just like any other kingdom. There are entities that are more powerful than some of the angels and they may need additional assistance. So get them some more help. If they only say, yeah, they blocking your blessing, man, you can't get through. What will you do now? I need some more help. If the police arise on the scene and he got six shooters and this dude got an AK-47, he's calling backup man. We got a problem over here and you might have to call SWAT and you might have to call swat, you might have to call somebody who's more elite than you. We think that the lowest totem pole angel could, just because he on god's side, he'll beat the strongest demon on god's side. Why, why, why? Let's stop this, people of God. Let's stop. Let's get more understanding in how God's kingdom works and how life works, because he said choose it, choose life and live or choose death. You made the choice. You made the choice.

Speaker 2

Oh, I was God. I was still thinking about paying $80 at a food truck.

Speaker 3

You know, I get that.

Speaker 2

I was like I don't know if the people like this we were there.

Speaker 3

I miss. Oh, I felt like that. Oh, I know you're about like for what, bro? I know, I'm sorry, my john mccarn, that's my order, john, that's, that's the one. Like yeah, this is your order, bro, don't act. Did you mustangly have somebody? Else food on my bell man. What the damn bro you saw that video.

Speaker 2

I did the slight and the small, no spoiler review of the Superman movie and you saw that I took my snack pack, man.

Speaker 3

Yes, I saw it, bro. They'll light you up at the movies, bro.

Speaker 1

They'll light you up.

Speaker 3

They'll light you up, dude.

Speaker 2

Yeah, the tickets were $10 to get in, but they but they gonna hit you with them thirty dollar concession man, you know, and I and I eat very clean, they had nothing right right, they were also like you know what. Anyway, yeah, I was like you know, there was one time they did have like unsweetened tea. I would do that, oh okay, guys, they don't even have that anymore wow, wow it's not, it's had sweet tea and I'm like I'm not buying this. So yeah, I guess I'll just, uh, just, swallow my spit, but I took the snack pack and I have my peanuts and my dates man and I'm good, because I'm not.

Speaker 2

I'm not buying popcorn, I'm not buying no nachos and I'm good, because I'm not, I'm not buying popcorn, I'm not buying no nachos. No man, I don't. I just don't have it in me, man, I just yeah, I just I put in my mind, I'm gonna be here two hours or less or maybe a little bit more. Yeah and I. I don't have to be, I don't have to be eating the whole time I don't have to right right but it's just programming too.

Speaker 2

So yeah, I programmed myself. Definitely. Yeah, man, I got my wife I tell you I said something like uh, they can miss me with that right and the thing is, I already ordered it, yeah right right, so I can't.

Speaker 3

I mean that ain't a kingdom do thing for me to walk away. Be like brother, you keep that. Yeah, you know they've got to you know, they only did is fill my order. And you should ask me how much does that come up to?

Speaker 1

You know, and I mean if he does say oh, that's going to be something that I'm like.

Speaker 3

No, bro, you can cancel that order.

Speaker 2

I saw it was a. It was a Porsche's, was Porsche's decent.

Speaker 3

Oh, they give you a gang of food, bro. Okay, oh, it's a gang of food. I bought it for four people, but you could have easily fed six or seven easily.

Speaker 2

Okay, the Porsche's cool.

Speaker 3

Porsche's yeah, they give you a lot. They give you a lot. So I came from food trucks, they better. Dope man, they just dope bro. I love food trucks yeah.

Speaker 2

Yeah, so. But we got one. At my job, north man, I saw that I think that was a small container of rice. They wanted $10 for that. Oh man yeah yeah yeah, yeah, I see y'all.

Speaker 3

Yeah, they got a hibachi boy and they're born man, that the vegetables. And man, we was at the art fair Yesterday, bro. They had a food truck that would have air fried vegetables. Oh yeah, man, I was like man, that's dope dude. Oh, not air fried, no, wood burned, whatever you know, they cook it through a wood burning stove or whatever. I said, man, that's gotta be crazy good yeah yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, that's true, that's true going to accommodate the vegans, vegetarians, yeah because that's heavy in NA too.

Speaker 1

No doubt.

Speaker 3

No doubt I mean. It's a great city. I hate driving through there, though it's a wreck. It's just so busy. What is them roundabouts about, bro?

Speaker 2

Well, you know, they brought that over from overseas. What is this supposed? To do dude? It took me a while to feel comfortable with it. Yeah, they whack, bro, they whack.

Speaker 3

What do they say? What time do they say what?

Speaker 2

is, is it?

Speaker 3

for what is it for?

Speaker 2

I guess not to have uh lights.

Speaker 3

Um, if I'm not mistaken, then give me a stop sign or something bro yeah this roundabout crap. That's the wrong about that. I said this is just an accident waiting to happen, bro. Oh yeah.

Speaker 2

I said this is just an accident waiting to happen, bro, oh yeah.

Speaker 3

And I mean, I think I got used to it now. But man, my wife, she's saying, bro, she dreads them. She's still this roundabout coming up. I'm like, oh man, here we go, here we go. You know the small ones, they don't though so bad, but them big three lines don't even understand it, bro.

Speaker 2

But second thought man, so you know I gotta look at us around. The boss are important because they enhance safety, improve traffic flow where it could be more than traditional intersections man dude what was that last piece you said?

Speaker 2

it says uh, it can also be environmental friendly than traditional intersections oh, man, why? Would I make it more environment I don't know, no man, I guess the electrical, so I don't know. I just know, I don't know when I first got, remember he's watching them like, uh, james bond, you would see him in the end oh yeah they'd be huge man. Yeah, but I was like I would never expect to come here, united states man, for years.

Speaker 3

Man, I'll be white knuckling they're going to do it want to hit me I bet, I do Right, right, that's a total that's a total honor system, and it is 100%, 100%. You ain't lying.

Speaker 2

So I got, I got to trust that you know what you do and I got to trust that person on that and they got to trust me that. I know that.

Speaker 3

I'm. I know absolutely how you got all of them got yield signs okay, so who you right?

Speaker 2

I used to go to emily city. You ever been in emily city? Uh-uh, no, it's about an hour and a half from here.

Speaker 3

Okay.

Speaker 2

It's this, they got this. They got these. In my city man it's known like Belleville, is known for the Strawberry Festival.

Speaker 3

Yeah right, In my city it's known for the Blueberry Festival. Oh, okay, okay, and they?

Speaker 2

got this hotel, that's, they got the rooms have themes. You got a safari theme. You got safari theme. You got an asian thing and all the types. So that's you know. So I went up there a couple of times but to get there as a huge rom-com man I used this white.

Speaker 3

I was going to go to you Say that is crazy I just called the run around.

Speaker 2

It's like I want to ride.

Speaker 3

That's what it is. That's what it is. Why bro, you just spent money on this. What, bro the Right?

Speaker 2

You could have came and dropped four stop signs right here good to go man yeah I guess uh something uh we got from um europeans man yeah, yeah, just something else, something else that don't make sense.

Speaker 3

Something else, something else that don't make sense.

Speaker 2

No disrespect to my European family dog. You eat toast with beans. Have you tried that? No, no, no, I have, I have.

Speaker 3

You have. Oh, is that big in Europe.

Speaker 2

Oh yeah, Dude, that's what they eat for breakfast.

Speaker 3

Oh, is that right. Wow, oh yeah, dude, that's what they eat for breakfast.

Speaker 2

Oh, is that right. Wow, put beans on their toast.

Speaker 3

Wow, are you saying beans?

Speaker 2

Beans.

Speaker 3

Yeah, beans, I'm sorry, there's no E after N. Don't say the brother can't spell. I can spell, I just ran over that. Yeah, beans and toast. That's crazy wow, and you was it good yeah, yeah, you know what kind of bees, uh, I guess, whatever you want, I, I, I like pinto beans, but I don't know. Oh, just whatever be. Hey, I think they use, uh, but the ones out the most.

Speaker 2

I was seeing. The most were like the white beans oh, okay okay. Okay, they were using that yeah.

Speaker 3

That's breakfast.

Speaker 2

But it's beans, though. How so.

Speaker 1

Right.

Speaker 3

What's that?

Speaker 1

about. I don't know, it's a regional.

Speaker 3

I guess, yeah, I guess they probably like it.

Speaker 2

It's like what's up with grits and toast?

Speaker 3

probably probably yeah like it's cultural and I get, then I can get down with it. You know, if I don't like it, I just won't eat it. But I know I ain't gonna front them off. But your roundabouts are stupid. What about me? What?

Speaker 2

about mint jelly. You ever eat mint, have you? What about?

Speaker 3

mint jelly.

Speaker 2

You ever eat mint. Have you ever tasted mint jelly?

Speaker 3

No no.

Speaker 2

Yeah, they put mint jelly mint jelly on their ham oh my God, this is OK, now I.

Speaker 3

It's horrible, it's horrible.

Speaker 2

It's horrible.

Speaker 3

That sounds horrible, bro, it is I don't want.

Speaker 2

I don't is like I don't want, I don't mint and I don't want anything meant with my meat or with my meat.

Speaker 3

That just don't say like you're going to go? No, no, you go, put the my mint gum mint gum is something you would chew after you, you ain't got to do everything, you know you just like, well, we could do it, just cause you can't do it. Should you, though? You know mint jelly bro.

Speaker 2

And then you're going to put it on ham, come on but I do like.

Speaker 2

I used to like hot pepper jelly, though at least like that jalapeno jelly you ever had jalapeno jelly, I know no no, no, spiced up, jelly bro, I never had it right, yeah, when I used to eat chicken wings, man, man Put the pepper jelly on it. Really, yeah, the jalapeno or pepper jelly on the chicken, so it's sweet and hot. Oh yeah, man On the crispy, crispy chicken. Okay, yeah, that wasn't bad at all, bro. Wow, yeah, but it's like you know, it's like spicy, sweet and sour sauce. You know what I'm saying.

Speaker 3

Oh, ok, yeah, but with the jelly texture, though. It tastes good, that jelly texture.

Speaker 2

Yeah, yeah, because the flavor is it, but you know it's a texture thing.

Speaker 3

You, yeah, I guess I can start. I don't get that texture. I can't get that texture.

Speaker 2

I would dip, dip the chip. I'll put a little dollop on my plate and the thing in there, man.

Setting Personal Boundaries

Speaker 3

Oh, OK, yeah bro, how can you have these memories, man? It don't go back. Well, I just, oh, I respect your hustle bro.

Speaker 2

I'm going to tell you like this, because I went to Chipotle one time and for some reason they had the meat, the chicken meat, next to the beans and oh, a cube a cube of chicken got in my beans and I bit into it and I knew exactly what it was. Oh, remember, we're talking about the essence and you were talking about that sauce yeah, that pop that chicken did that to my mouth and it squirted to the back of my throat. Oh my god, I was so upset, man, that that did you?

Speaker 2

oh yeah and then you know it's a texture thing and it's like it's just oily and it's straight so yeah, I took that food back. I'm not eating. I'm not eating this, I'm not eating. Wow, wow, I told you how I got down and then you still allow this to happen, like right right yeah dude that's crazy

Speaker 3

I mean they hooked you or did you just? Did they hook you up with something new?

Speaker 2

or did you give you? No, I didn't.

Speaker 3

Yeah, I gave my money back because I didn't know, okay, oh no, no, that they didn't ruined it now oh, yeah, yeah, yeah oh okay, yeah, I see that actually. Yeah, sweet smell, yep, sweet, it's about bro uh speaking of uh, you know for who we on that. You got a health tip for us no, I don't, no, I don't not today.

Speaker 2

Not today, okay, hey but I want to ask you did you, did you get a chance to see that superman movie?

Speaker 3

no, man, I I may actually go today and see it, okay, because wifey says she ain't going nowhere. She challenged me, you know move, and so since she decided to do that, man, I'm like well, baby you know if I didn't go see this movie. You know only way. I won't see it If she say I want to see it you know, yeah, I want to see it too. So okay, but I want to go and get that box boy and do it in 3D she don't want to do that See she can't stand watching movies in 3D and see 100% ain't going to do the box boy.

Speaker 3

So that's why I like to dip today. Where did you go to see it with the box in the 3D?

Speaker 2

and over as we as we stand. Ok, ok, yeah, ok, so my deal was and I were an emcee on the Ann Arbor as we spoke about Ann Arbor, okay.

Speaker 3

Okay, yep, okay, my dad was Ann Arbor, mc over there on Carpenter Road. Yeah, yeah, for sure, oh, okay.

Speaker 2

He's doing well at the box office. Surpassed $400 million.

Speaker 3

Did he really Did he.

Speaker 2

Wow yeah. I think, so, man, if you do superman right and I mean, don't get me wrong, it's not a perfect movie, but people love superman yeah, no doubt, you know that's my dog, right, yeah, so yeah, it's worth god it's worth seeing, so check it out, but I think I'm gonna go and say it. Yeah, if you say it's whatever, you know I'm gonna go check it out, yeah, yeah, but you guys suspend so much disbelief.

Speaker 3

Oh man, dude, I anticipate that's yeah, I ain't even going to the movie if I ain't willing to suspend my my unbelief, bro, because I'm not going to enjoy it man yeah this is what I mean, man, by christians. Just they so out cold with everything and they looking for a blasphemous thing or a demon under every tree.

Speaker 3

Now I'm not saying for certain movies I'm not saying certain movies are not demonic and all this stuff. But but what I'm trying to make is look, it's for, it's for freedom that christ came to set us free. So paul even said look, even if the people pray, even if you heard it was sacrificed to, to, to idols, or you think he's like man, if you just, if you just can eat it and eat it in the name of the lord or don't eat it, then don't do it in the name of the lord. But either way, man, just, we just giving glory to God, so you make the decision. If it crossed your fence, don't make your bottom. See, we just had to talk about boundaries. Don't make your boundaries mine. You know what I mean If it's not something that's across the board. That's a principle that we all have to live by. Do not make your problems my problems.

Speaker 3

If God is convicting you about something you don't listen to secular music, then you don't quote unquote secular music. You don't listen to it. Don't make that the gospel. You know, like nobody who believes supposed to be listening to music. That ain't glorifying God. Well, what glorifies God? That's now let's ask that question. You know, is glorifying God just about your mouth and the things you say. In the song Jesus said many people glorify me with their mouth. Yeah, but they hurt our heart. I have seen, bro, as the cat Williams got some stuff going across on streaming. Now Cat talks about God all the time, but when he get up on stage, man, cat got one of the most foul mouths. Oh yeah, out of comedians today that you ever heard. Do I question that Cat Williams got a legitimate relationship with the Lord? I can't do that. I don't have a right to do that. That makes me a judge if I do that, man, I'm not doing that. But all I can say is, man, if in his relationship God is, the Holy Spirit is not convicting him to stop cursing or whatever at this point, amen, that's. You got to work that salvation out with the Lord and, you know, do it with fear and trembling, just like I have to. You know there's some things I can't stand.

Speaker 3

Christians always want to diss people about man. They alcohol, they track and bleed. They drinking, they smoking it is, but you overeat though they smoking it is, but you overeat though mm-hmm. You gluttony is just as as an out of control situation and you're judging and you're judging. You don't want anybody judging you for having that third slice of pizza. Uh, don't judge them for having a beer or drinking or smoking a cigar, bro. I was at the art fair and I'm going to get this. I'm going to get this painting because I see where it goes. Perfect in an area that we're going to put in the house, bro. It's a picture of a bottle of alcohol, a glass with the whiskey poured in it and a cigar hanging off of the you know the little cigar platforms that people you know, lay them down on yeah, the colors are immaculate and they pop and I just like the way the picture look.

Speaker 3

I'm getting it, bro. Yeah, and it's gonna be hanging up in my room, so I can't believe you got alcohol and a cigar up on your wall. You got alcohol and a cigar up on your wall and you gotta cross around your neck, get off, yeah get off anyway. Yeah, before we go, I'm gonna give a shout out to wifey, who listened to the last episode and oh man love it love it.

Speaker 2

What up, sis and she? Uh, yeah, that was the worst setting boundaries, man, or? The phrase and boy did. She set boundaries yesterday because I put a little battery in her back before she went to the, to the party, and I was like I said, yeah, she, because somebody wanted her to babysit. I said, man, how dare you? I said you work all this time. I said you won't get any days on them and then they just don't. They might consider your schedule how you feel are you available?

Speaker 3

yeah, something going on, right, right you know.

Speaker 2

And uh, she was like yeah, yeah, you know, you know so. So the word for the phrase I always said about me and she got, she went to the picnic man or the cookout. She went on a little rambling righteous indignation man. She said I had my kids, I had my kids.

Speaker 1

I raised my daughter and I'm like, yeah, that's what she said, and she came home by herself.

Final Thoughts and Closing

Speaker 3

That? That's what's up, dude. Yeah, that's what this is about, bro Getting the word, putting it, you know, as you say at the beginning, renewing your mind one piece at a time, episode by episode. Listen to it and make the adjustments and, man, and it helps you to preserve yourself. Bro, keep you in a good spot, keep you, because how many times we do stuff for people we didn't feel like doing it, but we're doing it out of compunction, or you know, like I just I gotta do it, I'm compelled, and all this, and we complain about the whole time and god said look, I love a cheerful giver if you didn't want to do it.

Speaker 3

You shouldn't have done that you should you shouldn't have done it and just said no, I can't do it, I can't make myself available for that, you know so and that's it, and you're preserving yourself and your peace of mind, bro, or do it, and and just do it with a good heart and don't complain about it.

Speaker 2

Yep.

Speaker 3

Boundaries, bro Boundaries.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 3

And you got to get righteously indignant about it too.

Speaker 2

Yes, yes, Good show, man Love it.

Speaker 3

Yes.

Speaker 1

Yes.

Speaker 3

People of God, we love you.

Speaker 1

Peace. Yeah, dog. Thanks for tuning in to the Gospel Twins Podcast. Remember to like, subscribe and share. We'll see you next time.