The Gospel Twins Podcast
A podcast that brings the freedom and truth of God's Kingdom to the masses.
The Gospel Twins Podcast
When God's Kingdom Collides With American Politics
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What happens when faith collides with health challenges, political divisions, and religious traditions? Sean and John dive deep into these waters with raw honesty and Kingdom insight that will leave you questioning the status quo.
The episode opens with John sharing his recent blood clot diagnosis, sparking a conversation about the false dichotomy between faith and medicine. Rather than seeing these as opposing forces, the twins offer a refreshing perspective on how God's provision works through both supernatural and natural means. This tension between the spiritual and practical becomes a recurring theme throughout their dialogue.
As the conversation shifts to America's political landscape, the brothers don't shy away from addressing the troubling patterns of silencing and division plaguing our nation. "Americans are in a constant state of trauma response," they observe, noting how fear drives us to create enemies where there aren't any. Instead of aligning with partisan perspectives, they challenge listeners to view these issues through the lens of Kingdom values—where reconciliation and unity should supersede political tribalism.
The most powerful segment comes when they tackle what they call the "Box Church"—institutional Christianity that has exchanged Kingdom power for religious tradition. "You can't go to what you already are," they explain, contrasting the biblical concept of ecclesia (a governing influence) with today's building-centered church experience.
The episode concludes with a life-changing testimony about natural healing through sour sop tea, punctuated by the profound insight: "If everything we need isn't here on earth, then the universe is incomplete." This statement captures the essence of their message—that God's provision is complete, whether through medical science, natural remedies, or supernatural intervention.
Whether you're wrestling with health challenges, political disillusionment, or religious dissatisfaction, this episode offers a path forward that honors God's completeness while challenging the limitations we've placed on His kingdom. Subscribe now and join the conversation about what it truly means to renew your mind, piece by piece.
Introduction to Gospel Twins
Speaker 1This is the Gospel Twins, with your hosts, sean and John, your go-to podcast for the kingdom perspective on current events and the good news God has for the culture. Get ready to renew your mind, one piece at a time.
Speaker 2People of God. People of God, welcome back to the Gospel Twins podcast. When you get your mind renewed piece by piece and episode by episode and I am Sean.
Speaker 3And I am John, and we are the Gospel Twins.
Speaker 2Gospel Twins, what up?
Speaker 3What up, it's all good man, what's happening? That's probably the best one we've done ever, probably.
Speaker 2I think the last one wasn't that bad man you think we did pretty good yeah.
Speaker 3I just mean, we getting better. Yeah, we getting better man.
Speaker 2What's going on, man? How you doing, dude Good, Trying to recover from a cold Just got. Uh, just hit me out of nowhere.
Speaker 1Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2As a matter of fact, I can uh chronicle it back to next. Last sunday I was at the vet with my dog and um, I'm sitting in the waiting room and all of a sudden started to get the itchy throat my then my nostrils started to feel dry in the back. I was like what the heck is this? Yeah, yeah yeah, man, so wow, so I had to power through the week yeah, I went to work with it, man.
Speaker 2When then went as the uh code progressed and got worse, cold my co-workers. It was like man. They were standing like 10 feet away from me the my co-workers.
Speaker 3It was like man.
Speaker 2They were standing like 10 feet away from me get away from me, right and my boss, like trying to you know, she instructed me like you need to help them because, uh, one day, one particular day, uh, matter of fact, one particular day, I was the only tech there and and so I had the knowledge to you know, help keep the machines going, even machines. I had the knowledge to help keep the machines going, even machines that I usually don't run and she pulled me over there and when people saw me, they was like what are you doing over here, don't?
Speaker 3bring that over here.
Speaker 2Man. They were vigilant about it too. You know what I'm saying. I get it.
Speaker 1Because I'm the same way.
Speaker 2But hey, man, to like I'm trying to be rude or nothing. But nah, man, these people are like get away right, look go.
Speaker 3Don't. Nobody need that. I don't need that in my life memory password.
Speaker 2Hey, that's exactly the co-worker said. She said I don't have time to get sick right now.
Speaker 3She said I don't have time to get sick right now.
Speaker 2Oh man so y'all got to excuse me.
Speaker 3I'll be using this mute button every now and then Clear the pipes To clear it out. To clear it out. I hear that dude. No man, dude, but you sound a lot better though, man. Oh, thank you, yeah, yeah, yes, sir, it happens man. It sound a lot better though, man. So, oh, thank you, yeah, yeah, yes, sir, it happens man, it happens dude, and this is part of it, it's part of the journey, bro, part of the journey and uh, well, I was listening to the um.
Speaker 2I want to thank you again, man, for the. Uh, the deep end man, I love that podcast oh man, yeah, I love that podcast so much. Yeah, for sure, you talk about getting deep through this one that's out now. Man, the origin of the universe I didn't hear.
Speaker 3I haven't caught that one yet. Man, oh, man, oh, I gotta get into that, yeah get into that, after we, after we get done man it's you talking about.
Speaker 2That's a brainiac show. I love it. I love it and the two people on there, man, the physics and stuff yeah, oh, they got.
Speaker 3Oh, they got like experts, like in physics and stuff yeah, oh boy who are? Followers man.
Speaker 2So yeah, uh, the particular one. I'm talking about the beliefs and spiritual death. Man with that lady, wendy with backland yeah, have you seen that one oh
Speaker 3yeah that blessed me so much. Yeah, me too, man.
Speaker 2I think I made a little clip out of that one, like I think okay, I think I did, man, don't don't hold me to that, but but she was speaking about her being sick, and you know, and you know one thing she was. You know, uh, god was teaching her to stop being pitiful, and more powerful, and yeah, yeah, because that's yeah, I actually made it.
Speaker 3Yeah, that's the, that's the very section I made the clip out of, yes, yes, and did a post on it. That that's it.
Speaker 2Say that again, bro she said uh, god was teaching her. Learn how to be more. Uh be powerful, not pitiful, not pitiful and she was talking about her.
Speaker 2you know she, I think she got sick or something, and she was just so, so focused on that sickness. And god, yeah, tell her like, no, don't, don't focus on that. You know you in the season where you gonna just have to power through it, that's it Right, just focus on me, and I focus on that. And asking me to take it away from you. And I was like and so that's what I? Well, this one, I was like you know what, you know, I know stuff stuff's gonna come, sickness is gonna come.
Speaker 1It do and I'm stuff, stuff's gonna come, say this is gonna come and I'm sitting there.
Speaker 2If you're on my sitting on my knees and in the bed looking up talking to father, please take this away from me I was. I was working the power, I went to work that's it.
Speaker 3That's it that's it.
Fighting Through Illness and Health Challenges
Speaker 3I couldn't stand it though no, bro, dude, I loved it man, because because you, you, when we were talking, man, when you were sending me that vox message, you was like dude, I'm going through it, but I'm fighting it, dude, I'm fighting it. And, man, I loved hearing that man, because that's what this is about. It's not about us not being able to get hit with something, it's it's how we respond to it. Man, and, as you know, this week, man, I was going through an issue, man, so, probably for the last for a while, man, I've been having some swelling in my left leg. And my wife, man, she was like look, you need you got to go get that looked at, because I'm usually that guy. Man, look, I'm good, you know I'm gone, I'm gonna face my way through this, you know. She's like okay, mr faith, man, you need to go get that. Look that you know.
Speaker 3And the Holy Spirit was like dude, go get your leg, look that breath you know, wound up going, setting up an appointment and going and, um, the doctor looked at it. Man, he was like, yeah, I can definitely see some swelling. Man, he was like we need to set up to have, uh, mri done on that. You know so, but he's not talking about putting me in the machine, he's something like the ultrasound so they can look at what's going on inside.
Speaker 3So I just had that appointment this week and when I went, man, you know, now with these portals, these medical portals, they throw your results like in there quick and they'll let you know a warning like, oh, a health care professional has not looked at these yet. So you know, so you can go in and look. But if you don't know how to interpret it or you gonna see something bad, just know your doctor haven't seen them yet and you know, don't trip or whatever. So I went in, but before I could go in and look at it, man, I got a call like two hours later from the doctor. He was like, look, you got a minute. So you know how that go when the doctor you got a minute.
Speaker 3So, yeah, you know how that go. When the doctor you got a minute, you know like, yeah, move to a quiet part of the house. He's like, yeah, so when you came in today we were doing, you know, we did the ultrasound and we saw that you know, um, in your leg you got a, you got a blood clot. He's like and it's running from the back of your, your thigh area all the way down to the back of your calf area. Now I'm like, okay, you know blood clot. When you hear that, you like, oh, yeah, you know, he was like it is external, it's, it's not in the vein but it is blocking, you know, the vein blood flow. He was like I'm thinking this is where you know the fluid buildup is coming from, because you know you're he called it occlusive. You know it's blocking it.
Speaker 3And he's like, so I'm put you on these blood thinners and all that, man. So you know most, you know, go ahead and pick them up. So you know I go, of course, I tell wifey and everything. Now, of course, when you're hearing that, oh, snap, a blood clot, you know and, bro, I ain't going to have to say I didn't have to cast down imagination, you know, because, bro, you know, I know people who died from blood clots, you know, going through, and he was like, and he's like, if you ever experienced any shortness of breath or something like that, hurry up and come in. You know, but right now we're we're pretty optimistic, we can go ahead and get it dealt with with the thinners. So of course they're doing what they're doing and I'm going to tell you I take them. You know I'm doing what the doctor said, but of course I'm doing the things that the kingdom and my king has said also.
Speaker 3So I used to think it's either or you either going to believe God or go to the doctor. You know you ain't doing both. And man it's a. You know it's like the Holy Spirit to teach. You know that that ain't the case, man. You know one is not, you know, opposite of the other. They work together, man. They work together, man together. Absolutely all things work together together for the good of those who love god and called according to his purpose. So I had man. It took me years to get to this point, man, you know, but I I never, and god in his mercy, had always kept me from really having to go that medical route because of my mindset wasn't open to it.
Speaker 3You know what I mean. So to keep me, you know, alive, you know what I mean, there you go. His mercy absolutely endures forever, but when you get older, man, and more mature, this is what the Holy Spirit is, the leading guy that's into our truth, bro. So we got to stay open to learning, to maturing and things that we once believed, man. We got to be open to allow our beliefs to be modified and matured. So yeah, man, so dealing with that, but, like you said, you got to fight through it, man, and so bless God, man.
Speaker 2Yes, bless God.
Speaker 3Yeah, amen, amen. What's?
Speaker 1up.
Speaker 3What we on to today, bro.
Speaker 2Man, where do you want to start, bro? I mean, there's so much.
Speaker 3It's been a lot going on.
Speaker 2You can put a board on a wall and close your eyes and throw a dart, just let it fall. Oh, okay, man, it just I was with moms yesterday. Saturdays are a day I take her grocery shopping and stuff, so I had to help her.
Speaker 2After I dropped the groceries off, I helped her, you know, take the groceries upstairs and she needed me to look at her cable and and um, her wi-fi wasn't working okay and so she thought it was something that she did, and so I was trying to explain her, and and so back and forth I I was getting annoyed by she just like well, what about this remote? What about this remote control?
Speaker 1That has nothing to do with it.
Speaker 2Would you stop? She calls my brother man from Texas. Like what is he?
Speaker 3Right, right right.
Speaker 2I tell him, this remote, like there a tower master, wi-fi, nothing. She's not going to get any reception, right. The fire stick is not going to work. Right, you know your TV is not going to work. You know you got the smart TV, you know so. Right. So what I was trying to get to say is that I ended up having the conversation with my brother man, and he lives in Texas. So you know, texas is like his own country in itself.
Speaker 3Oh yeah, for sure, For sure.
Speaker 2And he just man. My brother is calm, cool and collected man, we started talking about politics, man, that voice man. That voice started going and collected man. We started talking about politics, man. That voice man. That voice started going high-pitched man. And he started staring and, like I said, my brother was stammering and stuttering.
Speaker 3I was like wow, that's a hotbed man.
Speaker 2That's a hotbed. I was tripping when I heard him talk like that man. Yeah, that's a hotbed. I was tripping when I heard him talk like that man.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, that's a hotbed bro. That's what they say. It's politics and religion, man, just stay away from it which it controls all our lives, man.
Speaker 2So why?
Speaker 3would you stay away from that topic?
Speaker 2Yeah, because people don't know how to handle it.
Speaker 3They don't know how to have conversations you know like right adult uncomfortable right, bro I can't tell you how many times my mom didn't kick me out the crib. My mom loved me. You know she called me sweet boy. You know she was like this is my sweet boy, right here. Bruh politics come. You need to go. It's time for you to leave, man you know, it's funny.
Speaker 2It's funny yeah, you know, people attach their lives to both. I mean, they both take their lives at both, you know it's intertwined, it's in there, man.
Speaker 3You can't, because it affects us. We're impacted by spirituality and and politics it's. It's no way. You cannot undetached from it, man, even if you don't. I'm not a political person, but but yet you may not get involved in the process, just like you could say I'm not a spiritual person. You cannot not be spiritual. It's impossible. You just may not be involved in that process, but it's affecting and touching every, every area of life, whether you understand it or not. The only the best thing to do is understand it, get involved and engage in it so you can win. You know, other than that you're just going along, getting along, and you're gonna be tossed with everything to come through. So yeah, man, I, I, I feel you, I see how I can get you know escalated and I just, and I just come across this clip uh, eddie murphy I love eddie murphy.
Speaker 1Eddie murphy was on.
Speaker 2This is the old clip when he was on arsenio hall show. If you know our senior hall, he, he's very, he could be very political. Oh yeah, for sure, and he asked Eddie Murphy about voting. Eddie Murphy's like I don't vote and, man, you know Eddie Murphy and Arsenio are boys and you should have saw they was. They was dogs man, yeah for sure Arsenio face looked up like what he's like he said, because he said said you know, but he know, he knew it, but he was doing it for the audience he's right of course we know you hate politics and he's like I don't hate politics.
Speaker 2He's like I just they don't do nothing for me. He's like when have you know when have people been happy in this country?
Speaker 1and then he was like he said.
Speaker 2I don't subscribe to the point of, like you know, because at the end of the day, whoever gets in, it's gonna be a foot in your a. You know what?
Speaker 1I'm saying.
Speaker 2He said at the end there's just a check, what's which cheek you want to get kicked in, oh no, his, and with it. What he said is you know, people try to figure out which foot is the smallest.
Speaker 3That's a good one. He, that's a good one.
Speaker 2He was like I want to sit here and try to figure out which foot is the smallest, because I know it's going to go in my butt.
Speaker 3So which one?
Speaker 2That's how it goes. But you know what he said, though he was like man. He said I don't care about man's government, I think about God's government. He said.
Speaker 3I pray.
Speaker 2He just kept on praising God, bro, I've never heard Eddie Murphy talk like that.
Speaker 3Wow, I'm going to have to check out that clip.
Speaker 2You're right.
Speaker 3I've never seen him talk about anything spiritual ever he was spiritual.
Speaker 2I knew this boy. I mean, this was like it looks like around the uh, boomerang era. That's what oh really yeah and um but yeah, he's that's what he kept on saying. So he just you know he's giving to god whatever you know, but you know, also, but I love that though oh so yeah, so, brother, yeah, uh. So I got a couple of things you want to start with the one thing you said um uh, you said I should expound on the box church, so I got that he won't talk about that.
Speaker 2And also, if you want, man, we can start on the politics. Uh, the ck boy, you know. And uh, yeah, yeah, you know the ck and this, what's going on, it's almost like ck, because not right now.
Speaker 3People are being silenced yeah, true, it's right yeah it's, it's bad man it is. It is uh, yeah, but it's not.
Speaker 2We're not gonna be scared we're not gonna be scared, though. You know what I'm saying no, of course not. Man people are definitely being silenced man. We saw what happened to Jimmy Kimmel yeah and what he said was very soft compared to the other things that he had said oh man, yeah, absolutely I was like what that right there that's what got out of everything that jimmy's ever said.
Speaker 3This is, this is what gets him right, gets him canceled. Basically, yeah, man, it's, it's. That's crazy, it's crazy, and but it and the thing is it's actually an antithesis. I mean, wherever you fall on the Charlie Kirk situation, whatever side you fall on, whether you for him or against him, the one thing that he stood for was your voice. You know people having the right to do this, whatever that is to believe, as long as it was, in his interpretation, in line with the Constitution. But the very thing that he stood for is what Jimmy's being silenced over, you know, and that this that's the hypocrisy of, of this nation.
Speaker 3And it's it's unfortunate, it really is unfortunate, and it's anyway, go ahead power to the people, power we're supposed to be what is established on we we have the people, for the people, by the people. This is what our government is supposed to be.
Speaker 2And you see what's going on. People mad at Bob Iger.
Speaker 1No.
Speaker 2Mr Disney by canceling, not Disney. Oh man, people are here about that.
Speaker 3What's that?
Speaker 2Man, disney, disney, abc, Hulu. They lost $3 billion so far. What? People are canceling their subscriptions? Disney, abc, hulu. They lost $3 billion so far. People are canceling their subscriptions. People are canceling man. This one lady had, I think, $150,000 wedding that was planned at Disney. She canceled it. She canceled it. Man, people canceling their cruises. What's happening? Why, for what? Because ABC is the one that's canceling Jimmy Kimmel. People's happening. Why For what? Because ABC, no, abc is the one that's canceling Jimmy Kimmel, so people's like all right, well, you know, oh okay, this is a protest, yeah, this is a protest.
Speaker 3Oh okay, got you, got you.
Speaker 2They're protesting and boycotting anything Disney, marvel and they feeling it already, bro. And, matter of fact, the site crashed when people were trying to you know, uh, cancel it because people were trying to cancel. Yes, yes, wow, and they're trying to they're trying to not allow people to cancel and they're like well, just stay with us and you could just pay for. Pay two dollars a month until this, for six months. Oh yes, oh yes and people like in buy right, peace out.
Speaker 3Yeah, but see, this is what happens, man, when government gets involved with media. It it's this is the problem, man, it's. People are trying to cross, you know, pollinate things. Man, when you start getting this mentality about making something, whatever idea you thought it was, or whatever, you start saying, the only way to do that is to do make the, take these extreme actions and and then so, man, even when you're trying to mess with the federal reserve, bro, the government, that stuff is separated on purpose, you know. So the government cannot, whoever's in office, whatever, cannot sway media and the government. I mean, you know, in the, in the financial institutions and everything to to raise rates or lower them while you in office, because it makes it look like you're impacting the economy in such a positive way that stuff comes back later on and cause way more damage than you could have ever thought. That's why they separated all this. This is why media was always separated from government. This is why the Federal Reserve was always separated from government.
Speaker 3Because, people, bro, I always say, when you in office, as when you hold in the office of a president, you're the chief citizen, you're not a king. America is not a, a kingdom, so you're not a king. You cannot dictate I'm. I'm saying anyone who's in their office. You cannot dictate. I'm saying anyone who's in their office. The president is just the chief citizen. You're the one who the people say. We want your voice to represent the majority of us, and when that voice is no longer doing that, that's why we have things in place that can remove you out. You don't get to serve all your term just because you got the job, no more than I can start doing the job. And I don't get fired if I'm not doing the job, if people no longer feel I'm doing it. You can't influence that man. And one thing about when you messing with con, because comedians are really the last line of defense we have for free speech basically yeah, yeah there you go.
Speaker 3When you shut down the comedians, bro, you are a hundred percent, because you know what you're saying. You're saying we no longer have a sense of humor, one of the things comedians do, even in the darkest moments. Yes, this tragedy would chart. This was tragic, no matter what side of the fence you on. Oh yeah, but even in this, comedians have a way of of lightening the grief and getting people to even laugh in moments when things don't are not really funny. Because laughter does good like a medicine, man. The bible doesn't say, the scripture doesn't say uh, that merry heart does good like a medicine. Unless it's this, you know, unless it's anything that can lighten the load, it will help. And when you get to the point when you're telling people we have no more use of humor in a society, bruh, you are entering some dark territory well, I mean it's take on the personality and the chief citizen, as you speak unfortunately he doesn't have a sense of humor and, in my opinion, he doesn't like people.
Speaker 2And so that's true. He doesn't have a sense of humor and, in my opinion, he doesn't like people, and so that's why he's able to do what he's doing without any compassion. He doesn't have any remorse about it. Matter of fact, it was two situations. We're talking about CK right now. One video I saw. They asked him like how, how you doing, you know, since lost your friend Chuck oh man, you saw that one and he said I'm doing fine.
Speaker 2And then he started going talking about the ball room being built built at the White House.
Speaker 3Yeah, yeah, they've been trying to do this for 150 years and you know it's. It's always this self-exaltation that I'm getting this done, I'm doing things that nobody else was was ever able to do and, bro, that that is. That is pride, bro. And when pride goes before destruction, and if the person that's at the helm is full of that and that's who's leading the ship, it doesn't say that that pride goes before destruction ship, it doesn't say that that pride goes before destruction. Unless it's going to affect a lot of innocent people, bro, whoever flying the ship, if they got issues, it's going to affect everyone in the thing, man, everyone is on the boat, in the plane, in the car, whatever vehicle you want to say you, this is why you have to remove people from being in positions of leadership, because if we don't, you're going to wreck us all. Innocent guilty. Yeah, ever, everyone is going to get right. But I just got to end part right here. Go ahead.
Speaker 2I was going to speak on the second clip. You may have seen the same clip that I saw they were saying about hate speech. Ck said there's no thing as hate speech and DT says he's not saying that now.
Speaker 3I'm like ooh. Wow.
Speaker 2That was so insensitive. Wow, I wonder how his wife received that when he said it like that and he had a smirk on his face too, bro, wow, so yeah man? No, I hadn't seen that yeah yeah, yeah, yeah, I just like you could take that with any way you want to. I mean, I know people like the trump's plane man, but that is what he said you.
Speaker 3You have to still be man. Part of being presidential or in any position of leadership, bro, is that you just cannot say anything that comes off the top of your head. You just can't. You have to be. This is why they have people writing your speeches for you. Because you, because these people are supposed to be in your camp to help you, even if your views are very, you know, adversarial to a lot of people, we got to at least be able to get put you in a position where you can say it to, where it's not just off the cuff offensive. You just can't be offensive, for offense sake. You know, because you don't care. You have to care. If you're going to hold this office, you have to care about everyone, even if you don't agree with them. I still have to care for you. You know that you have the right to your opinion. If you take that away, you you're very one talking about making something great again and and you're going to take away the very foundation of the things that's constitutional about our nation.
Speaker 2Right even that phrase and that catchphrase it has some evil in it.
Speaker 3It does this man.
Political Silencing and Media Control
Speaker 2we saw how he handled the pandemic and the only thing he was concerned about was numbers and getting people back to work, and it's like we haven't dealt with anything like that. So there's a lot of fear out there. People are dying. I know, man. Matter of fact, I have a brother I mean a coworker that I work with. To this day he holds guilt because he caught COVID. He didn't know he had COVID Went around his family and he took his hand out and he said he's shined. To this day, he said.
Speaker 1He said he's not to this day he said so, when it comes to sickness, I don't you know I don't mess around.
Speaker 2He's like, he's like I. He said I hold so much guilt. Uh given covert to my aunt and she was, you know uh, she was avoiding it like a lot of people there were a lot of people just wasn't being around people and then they just, like you know, felt forced uh to go interact with people and then they catch it and they die man right right and we see this. This president just seemed not to care and you and I talked about this off air, about george w yeah, he was a laughing stock man, everybody made fun of that dude sure did but he had two, two things that happened on his watch man.
Speaker 2Yeah, two catastrophic events that happened very catastrophic absolutely uh 9-11 and hurricane katrina. I mean he didn't uh 9-11, he handled, you know he he did.
Speaker 3He handled 9-, 11 way better than he did katrina yeah, you know, but you could tell he sure you could tell he cared you could
Speaker 3you know and he carried it, he cared yeah, oh whether you were. You. That way you can you know whether you believe that it was something, that was a conspiracy or whatever. That's. That's a whole different topic. But yeah, like you said he, you saw it on him that he carried it as a human. You know what I mean. He wasn't just totally, you know, just divesting of what was happening. You know what I mean. He, he was involved, man he was, he was boots on the ground.
Speaker 3Oh, yes, he was boots on the ground yeah, yeah I would like to see let's see dt get on the mound to throw a first pitch, man oh, man, come on right to do this, to try and bring that you know, that spirit back to the country you know he easily at with the assassination of charlie kirk, man he easily slated.
Speaker 2We got to get together, that's the pill absolutely, that's a pill absolutely better angels, as was that Lincoln that brought that. Oh man, yes that was his time, bro yes, yes, it was a moment, americans, let's do this, that's, we're gonna talk against hate and we're gonna just come together. We are one, we're, we're a strong nation. No, he's not one absolutely he's pointed the left, the left, radical left, democrats. That's all I'm hearing, man right, right, it's not.
Speaker 3He's definitely not using the, the office of, you know of president to to make anything better. You know that and you know, and and thing is man, I, I advocated for him in his first, in his first, uh, term, and it wasn't the fact that I was advocating for him in particular, it was the fact that I knew this, this nation, because of what's happening, man, we, we need somebody that's non-political and what and what he was proclaiming at the time. I'm draining the swamp. You know I'm gonna make government smaller. All of this stuff it was. You know, his campaign was good, but you know, and but is the the stuff? Man and I was and I was able to overlook the personal stuff? Yeah, but but when you allow the personal stuff to begin to be, uh, you know, part of your legislation and and how you're governing the, the country and the nation, then that I can't any longer support that oh yeah he's.
Speaker 2He said when he got in office.
Speaker 3He's an exact revenge on people yeah, see, you can see, you can't do that and he's in the constant and he's in the constant state of that.
Speaker 2He's just everybody, and if you say anything bad about him, all that you're you're disrespecting you're getting canceled and you're putting pressure on on stations.
Speaker 3Abc wouldn't have done that without some type of political pressure. It's no way they would have done it, because he's been on this show forever, man.
Speaker 3I mean he's been on there for jim, jimmy kim, when they said a lot of way crazier stuff than this dude and and under a lot of other different people watches, but when you got a whole bro, let me. I wasn't even a strong advocate for Obama. I loved him as a person. See, I was opposite with Obama than I was with Trump. I didn't like. I loved Obama as a person. I thought he was great, you know, as a person, but I did not like his platform, his campaign. I didn't too much care for Donald Trump as a person, but I liked him. I'm talking about the first term, first run. I liked his campaign, though, but I didn't like him particularly as a person.
Speaker 3But the thing is, man, obama, he had to endure a whole lot worse crap than hearing stuff and people saying crazy stuff about him publicly than your, you know, your boy ever did, and he didn't launch a committee to have people monitoring what's being said about him and get it taken down off of social and and media sites and stuff, because people saying stuff deagratory about him. That's your right man. I saw a video recently with obama when they were booing him and I was talking about stuff and he was like nope, nope, like they was like getting ready to remove these people. He's like, uh, let them, they have a right to say what they want to say now, what I'll have you, you know, give me a chance to, to talk and see, because you think that just because I'm the president, I can just change things, you know, just because I want to, because I'm the president, he's like we are a government that is established upon laws and if you and if you really feel strongly about this, then you got to get involved with the process and I'm with you.
Speaker 3He said I'll be with you in this process, he. But we gotta change it lawfully. The easy way is to sit here and yell and fuss about what your stance is. The tough job is to get involved with the process and help change it. And, bro, that was one of the most present. That was one of the dopest things I've ever heard somebody ever say, or responses to hostility I've ever seen yeah, yeah, he.
Speaker 2He always dealt with that man. Um, he just didn't get that he. He didn't get that respect man. I just felt I used to feel bad for him and even like when they would just they gave him a hard time for wearing the tan suit man.
Speaker 3Oh my goodness, I would love to see a president in the tan suit and right and temperatures cool down then absolutely, and some of the blue in the blue suit and trying to always garner the the man, I mean the red, white and blue in some kind of form of fashion.
Speaker 3Come on, dude that's just not even unless you're a or blood bro, you ain't gonna be in red and blue all the time. I'm just, I'm sorry, man, you're just not gonna do that and you know, you know, I'm just, you just ain't gonna do it. But man, I, I just it's so much, it's so much tension that he, like you said he had an opportunity, perfect opportunity to to bring light out of darkness man, and and he just added on to the, to the ladder like you said, man, uh, it seemed like, uh, like america.
Speaker 2We was in the frying pan. We've been the frying parent jumped into the fire no, man dude hey, you know, americans are in the constant state of trauma.
Speaker 2Response bro yeah, yeah and you know we got the man managed media and this one, this person on on tick tock man. Uh, she said this man. She said patriot. Patriotism isn't a fruit of the spirit. She said the second amendment isn't a follower of Christ's value. Jesus said to him you shall love the Lord, your God, with all your heart, all your soul, with all your mind and love your neighbor as yourself. And this TikToker also said we need to lead people to the throne of grace and not to the throne of the voting booth. That's funny.
Speaker 3That was a good one.
Speaker 2Yeah, but yeah, like I said, managed media TikTok. What was that? Caroline Levitt? Is that the press secretary? Okay, she was all, just all smiles man, just like you. You told her she won a billion dollars.
Speaker 3how she was smiling wow, based on what like? What was? What was causing that?
Speaker 2she was talking about the sale of tick tock. Oh, tick tock has american buyer. Yeah sorry, I had to clear my throat people.
Speaker 3No, you good bro.
Speaker 2TikTok is an American buyer and we're going to be governed by Americans. And they got Americans on the board. American this, american that, bro, it's like you know and I'm on. Tiktok. Now I'm a TikToker.
Speaker 1Right right.
Speaker 2Majority of people that I come across saying that they're not going to download the American version of TikTok. They just have to close this one, because if you're going to Americanize TikTok, then it ceases to be TikTok, tiktok is international and you know what we?
Speaker 2do appreciate that I get to see how other countries operate. I get to see the comparison, how we run things that they do and how americans and even um citizens from other countries hold america responsible and hold them to the carpet, to certain ideas and stuff like that, then all that's going to get taken away, and so that means it's not going to be tiktok anymore, it's going to just it's going to be facebook is what it's going to be right right and right, I'll just stay on facebook and I'm not going to download another app, so I can be controlled and surveillance um because that's all it's going to be.
Speaker 2Man, because you know if you say anything against um, you know the, the government, you know right uh, because you know, um, what is that they've? Uh, what is that doxing they're gonna? They're doxing people, man, and they're doxing people and and then if you say anything bad, they're sending on a look at your social media and they're gonna go to your employer and wow, I get you fired have.
Speaker 2You see bro when did we get to this point where anything and I can't stand it, I don't either side of it, man, I mean I don't care if they say hate stuff or whatever, like this. Um, when is this? When did we become a nation like, oh, they need to lose their job they did this I can't stand that man. Uh, did you see the clip of this woman? It was at a baseball game. Somebody hit a foul ball. The ball fell in front of this woman.
Speaker 2But this guy ran over there and grabbed the ball before she can bend over and get it. He go over there, grab the ball. He gives it to her son. His son, the lady that the ball fell in front of ran over there. I mean she was angry, she's just not giving it to the man blah blah, blah, blah, blah, blah blah, and he gave her. He gave her the baseball.
Speaker 2Like take it I don't, I don't want to smoke right you know, the right thing happened, that this was caught on camera. So the baseball both both baseball teams gave this kid all this merch and all that show him some love, but the backlash of this video is that people wanted that lady to lose her job why bro? Why berated? Berated the father of a child because he got the, the foul oh my goodness, that's and she lost her job oh my god, see, that's, that's.
Speaker 3That's the stuff I'm talking about. Dude this. People that got so messed up, man, how is that possible? They had a baseball game. This is something that erupted between two people that obviously they were able to work out and resolve, and it's still gonna reverberate to the point where I don't like her response and reaction to that. So we gonna have her lose her. I want to see her fired.
Speaker 3Take away her ability to provide for her and her family yes, you shouldn't be able to provide for your family, no more because of a reaction you had at a baseball game, which is, I can understand a point, if, if I was bending over to get in, you gonna run and take it and then she and she voiced her opinion about you know she didn't like that, that move, and he gives it back. You know, I mean even, even what, if he wouldn't have gave it back, would you felt that he should lose his job because he didn't give it back, or whatever? I mean dude.
Speaker 2He got her the sympathy because he had his son.
Speaker 3Oh, man get out of here.
Speaker 3One thing doesn't have anything to do with the other. One of the things doesn't. It's these two people, man, and they had a conflict, and it was conflict resolution. So once something is resolved, this is this mentality of people wanting to see people suffer forever because of a momentary situation. Why, why would you make such a permanent reaction to something that was so temporary? This day ain't going to see each other, no more. They wouldn't have probably thought nothing about it beyond the conversation of going home talking about it for that day or two.
Speaker 3And but this woman had to suffer a backlash, a reverberation that came and took her job away and who gave into that kind of crack pressure to where they actually fired her over you know her job, because that's what people are.
Speaker 2People are the online sleuths man, so they find out who you are, find out where you work and then they just give it to your job. They just give them all these these comments and all these letters and stuff like that and then they came, and then they, and then they cave that that's, that's.
Speaker 3That's a society that's so fractured, man, that's so unstable, that just voices. These people probably don't even patron your establishment, don't put no money into it, and they got the nerve to have these. Ain't your shareholders called you up? These is people, man, dude. If we don't get a clue, this, this ain't going to go good, and it's got. Let me just let me rephrase that it ain't going to continue to. It's going to continue to just do what it's doing and that's it. It's degrading. This foundation in our society is degrading, and this is why and even with the young lady that made the comment you said about TikTok, you know, lead people to the throne of Christ and not the voting booth.
Speaker 3The bottom the thing is with. That is, jesus is a king, so when he's talking, talking, he's talking from the perspective of a king. We live in a democracy, we don't live in a kingdom. This is where people got to make the distinction between. This is the problem with America church, the western church. You're trying to, you're trying to make kingdom fit democracy, instead of understanding that the kingdom is totally not, that you might have democratic things happen within the kingdom, but the kingdom is not a democracy. Dude, jesus, don't? He ain't holding you up. He, he mean what he say. And he say what he mean. Dude, now, I don't mean ain't holding you up, he, he mean what he's saying. He say what he mean, dude, now I don't mean you can't talk to him about it, but he ain't changing. You know what he. What he gonna do is help you see the error of your ways, but he ain't changing the way that things are. A democracy we put in, we vote them in and we vote them out, period oh, period.
Speaker 2Dt said, if you just get him in, you want to ever vote again. Remember that oh my god and think about it and we were, and my brother and I was talking about like the first term, he was trying to figure things out the second term. He got the project 2025, he got the playbook and he's running the playbook bro.
Speaker 3But how can he be running the playbook when he said he didn't really know anything about that book? Come on man.
Speaker 2We already know how he get down.
Speaker 3You're not in any way inferring that he would tell a lie.
Speaker 2Oh, my man.
Speaker 3No way are you saying this. This, this nation, bro, needs healing. This, this need, this nation needs healing. From the white house to the outhouse, bro, it doesn't matter. This nation needs healing, and everything that's happening the one thing that I do appreciate. What's going on right now is to is letting all of us see and know how messed up we still are as a country, as a people group. We're messed up, bro. I ain't even talking about the rest of the world, that's a whole nother conversation but I'm talking about us here in the united states. The units quote air quotes united states of america. Everyone who holds that office is supposed to be upholding that moniker, and wherever you see division, your whole purpose should be reconciliation and bringing unity back to this, to this nation bro man, like I said, americans are in the constant state of trauma.
Speaker 2response man we, uh, black people respond to the, to the, just just the bad things that happen to black people. I mean, you know, you ain't like when people, it's like when, when the black person get pulled over like, just just just comply the man, the way of the race is on that person and they, they sometimes they know a play in their mind how this thing can go, or you know, and so it just it's a response man.
Speaker 3Right, and then you have you know, then you got.
Speaker 2You know you got white people. That's, that's responding, because they think that the minority is about to take over the country, right, and so they're responding to that Matter of fact, to the point where they're bringing back. We've been seeing hangings lately, bro.
Speaker 3That's unacceptable man.
Speaker 2And I've been seeing back and forth and interactions with, uh, with black and white people and the white person tell the black people I, I should, I could hang you. Well, we, you know, keep it up come back around here. I'm gonna go, yeah, I saw that.
Speaker 3I saw that.
Speaker 3I saw that video man um and this black dude is just recording and just going through neighborhoods canvassing, yeah, you know, like anybody else would you know? So what? You got a no solicit on your door. Okay, man, come out, make it, get off my lawn or whatever. And he left. You followed him, harassing him and called him the n-word and all of this stuff, man, and and this dude just kept on going, you know, and then when he go to the next house, they don't want you up there to their house and this and that. Come on, bro, this is what I mean. Get out of, do you? But don't impose your crap on everybody else, man. Don't impose that mess on. Don't, don't put your prejudices on me. Dude, that's you, that's your problem, those are your issues. Even when they showed this rally man after this, when they were talking about white man, fight back, white man, fight back because of what happened to ck bruh. Fight back with who? Okay, it was a white man that did it. What the straw?
Speaker 2man right.
Speaker 3You just creating an enemy that's not there. Black people are not white people's enemies, bro. We're just not and we don't perceive y'all as being the enemy, you know. I mean it's of course they would there are there are powers that be that want us to perceive each other as that, yeah, but man, we it's not. When it you don't see black people just arbitrarily doing things against white people, man, if you just don't see it. And if you do see it, it's a response typically thank you, man then.
Speaker 2Then there's another video. As a matter of fact, it's a couple that were friends with CK. They were in Washington walking down the street and they got this black man arrested. Said that this black man threatened them, said I'm going to kill you and your white baby and your white wife, man, and this man is like. And then he has no criminal record and so that now he has his whole day, his whole month, whatever is going to be, interrupted with this crap with all of this mess right and it's like he was just walking down the street man.
Speaker 2So now they got this, now they got this organization trying to get him free and clear it out of this crap and um and then nothing too. Then you got to tackle homeless people, which you know. Uh, you see that uh, it was on. Uh, what's that on? Fox and friends? They were discussing the fatal stabbing and that woman in charlotte yeah, and um, yeah, the host, what's his name?
Speaker 2kill me. Uh, whatever his name, he said that. Uh, no, it said during this conversation, co-host lawrence jones said to um unhoused they call them unhoused people who refuse treatment or mental health should be locked up and put in jail. And then they kill me. I think his name kill me, he said, responding. It's like they also should be subjected, subjected to involuntary lethal injection wow so once he said that wow a homeless encampment got sprayed up, shot up, and then one of the people that was hung was an homeless person.
Speaker 3Wow, wow on top of the guy so now you're creating enemies now. Now the homeless people are the enemies too now. So it's immigrants, homeless blacks, um, different ethnicities, so all the perpetrators is somebody who don't fit into a particular social class. Yeah, man, do you know that that's worse than genocide, dude? That's that's you, didn't? All the sides is mixed into that. You know the homicide, suicide, genocide, it's all the sides.
The Problem With "Box Church" Christianity
Speaker 3In that kind of mentality, man. Because the only person that benefits from this, bro, is the kingdom of darkness. That's it. Because there is not one person that's on this planet that is not made in God's image and likeness, not one. And the only ones who benefit from seeing us act a fool on each other is the entities behind the scene, that's behind the curtains and that's the. That's the enemy. That's satan's kingdom, the kingdom of darkness. Man is playing people like puppets and ping pong, man, and the only exit out of that is the kingdom of god. That's the only. It's the only. It's the only thing that can help man, only thing that can help dude and man. And in the box, church, as you said, it is not helping at all, dude oh, it's corporate, man, it's corporate and they got this corporate message.
Speaker 2And let me go and elaborate on that. Box church is a dime, a dozen institutional facility steeped in traditions of men which ignore things. Christ accomplished as well as who are we as a new creation and the responsibility? But if you're going to, we're not going to say you shouldn't go to a box church or a church. But I understand that when you do a responsibility, because you gotta you gotta fund it, you gotta you gotta pray, pay for the water you gotta pay for the lights and everything, and you know all the accommodation that comes with it.
Speaker 2Um, but I I will speak against the uh ones that the pastors don't have a job and so the congregation paying the pastor.
Speaker 3Okay, now I need to expound in a more layman's term on the box church. Like what is considered that? Why is it considered a box church? Now, I know that that's not the phrase you coined. I know that's from what's the?
Speaker 2man's coined.
Speaker 3I know that's from matt mcmillan mac mcmillan and and I 100 agree. I put like a little thing up on on tiktok and stuff about the box church. But break that down. What is what makes a box church a box church?
Speaker 2I mean because you know you, you make it to building. So you, when you hear the word church, churches as we, we preached about or talked about, is ecclesia, which is god's right. You know the set apart or the senate, it's not, absolutely, it's not the building, absolutely. Yes, it's not it's not a building. So people, when you say church, you think of the building and you got to go to the building. You can't go to what you already are right right right and I'm about to go to.
Speaker 3I'm about to go to john right I'm about to go to john. You know, are you about to go to the john? Or you say you gotta go to the bathroom, like no, I'm about to go to the John. Are you saying you got?
Speaker 1to go to the back.
Speaker 3I'm like, no, I'm about to go to John. I'm John McCarty myself. I'm about to go there. What? What are you talking about? You know it's asinine when you think about it, but it's like you said when we've taken church out of what it really is and turned it to what it's not, and now it's a place that you go to instead of it being something you are. Yeah, you know, and and it's it is. It's terrible again. Healing needs to come to that man, because that's jacked up and they gotta understand that the origin of was constantine.
Speaker 2he wanted, you know, he became, he converted and he was a Christian. Quote unquote Christian, he built these buildings so everybody can congregate and that became a tradition. But the early Christians, or the followers of Christ, met in people's homes.
Speaker 3Absolutely.
Speaker 2And it wasn't just one person teaching the church came together.
Speaker 3It wasn't the place you went to. It was the place that Ekklesias spread out all over the known world because they were imposing their culture and their traditions on the people in their own lands. It takes an ecclesia to do that, it takes a group of governing bodies to do that. So they fully understood and this is why the influence of the kingdom of God was so heavy in the beginning, because they understood what the church was. They understood the ecclesia and the job of it to impact and influence to the point. Man.
Speaker 3The way it got in caesar's palace, the kingdom got into. This is why paul, that's why they ultimately had to deal with paul man because, dude, he, he took that knowledge of the ecclesia into all the world with the rest of the apostles. Dude, to the point where you're talking about the influence of god's kingdom getting into the emperor's palace. People don't know how big that is, dude, they have no, no clue how big that is. For that, not only did it penetrate and got in the palace where people were actually influenced and imposing the kingdom in the emperor's house. That's like somebody coming into your house and implementing their rules in your house. Who's going to have that? Dude, it was unstoppable. The church, the ecclesia was unstoppable, it still is, but just the version of it, the box church version, the package version of it, is not God's plan.
Speaker 2This is what makes it corporate in so many ways. As we know, going to a church building is nothing biblical about that. And then some of these box churches won't even allow a woman to preach. And so the message of keeping the Sabbath holy and don't forsake the assembling. And don't forsake the assembling and don't rob, rob god, our principles that taught to keep members in these box churches yes, that's, it is, man.
Speaker 3It is literally what jesus said the traditions of man makes the word of god non-effective, and and it ain't that it, it ain't that god's word can never be void of power. It just becomes neutralized by your tradition, because you exalt your tradition above god's word. And and this should not be the case, man and this is what, bro, if I may, and take it just a little deeper go ahead, man. That's what you do. And take it just a little deeper, go ahead, man. That's what you do. The saddest part of CK's assassination was not the fact that it happened. The saddest part is that the best thing that the church air quotes could do is bury him and memorialize him. The church has the capacity of raising the dead. Bro. With that shouldn't have. Even first of all, we had the capacity of also keeping ourselves from being taken out like that. I mean, this is absolutely. Jesus said no man takes my life, I lay it down. If I lay it down, I can pick it up again. This power I've received from my father. Paul said look, I want to go be with Christ, but because it'd be better for you that I stay, I'm not going to. You know, I'd rather leave, but I'm not going to. I'm going to stay.
Speaker 3This is the kind of talk that people who know who they are and what they can do speaks like you. You can't take me out and it will take me out unless it's God's will. It's not God's will for you to be taken out. You got to settle that first. Somebody should have been able. We don't even need a whole bunch, bro, just one or two people that had the knowledge of what could be done could have went up there and changed that whole situation easily, or follow him back to the morgue or whatever. He didn't have to be put away, bro. He could have been raised up, and this is not just him, this is. This could be a situation that happens anywhere in the world, because this is the authority and the power that the church, the ecclesia of jesus, those who will have the kingdom in them, can do. But but why don't we? Why is that not even a thought that crosses the minds of believers today? Why is that not even a thought in our minds that we can, we can raise, we can change the situation? We can?
Speaker 2Because, people raise, waiting for the resurrection to happen when Jesus comes back again.
Speaker 3And this is the same crap that Jesus dealt with in his day when Mary and Martha was talking that mess about Lazarus. Well, I know he's gonna be raised. I know CK is gonna be raised up at the resurrection of the last day. And what did Jesus say? I am the resurrection and the life. I'm the resurrection and the life. I'm the resurrection, I can raise from the dead and I'm the life. I can keep you from dying. Why is that not an actual concept among the church? Why is what that is supposed to be? Do anybody know that in their Bible that Romans, that Paul? In the second chapter of Romans, he said we should be seeking glory, honor, immortality, eternal life, wasn't it? Jesus said all they seek fine Hope, deferred bro.
Speaker 2Hope deferred.
Speaker 3Hope deferred makes the heart sick and if you got a sick heart, guess what you're not going to do. Hope deferred makes the heart sick and if you got a sick heart, guess what you're not going to do. You're not going to put on the whole armor of God to stand against the evils of the enemy in the evil day. You know why? Because you don't even know People bruh the box. Church preach about the armor of God, taking your whole armor. Ask the person to come out. You know. Ask the preacher how do you put it on and do you keep it on? Bruh, name one person that goes anywhere. That's a soldier or whatever, and they carry their M16s everywhere they go. I mean, they're suited up in their body armor all the time. Bruh, no one does that and God isn't telling you to do it. That's why he said said, take it with you, take unto you the whole armor, take it with you because, and when the evil pop off, you better put it on, because now it's time to go to war.
Speaker 3This is when he says we wrestle not against fledgling, but all that happens when he's talking about the armor. Bro, he's going right into all that. What does that mean? I'm not always wrestling against the principality of power, a ruler, the darkness of spiritual, bro, that is not a peaceful life. Not always fighting, this is what. This is why the frozen chosen have such a problem with enjoying their life, man, man, because they think every freaking thing is a battle. Bro. It's not. You can't enjoy nothing, you can't have fun about nothing, because it's all about I got to get people saved. I got to tell the sinners that they sinners or they're going to be lost and they're going to go to hell forever.
Speaker 3I got it, I got it, I got forever. I got it, I got, I got, I got, I got. I got it in a constant state of fight or flight, bro, constant, we either fighting or we got to get ready to get out of here. It's just no peace ever. Do you know that part of the part of the iron I mean the iron, the armor of God is to have your feet shod with the preparation of the preparation of the gospel of peace. There are a bunch of different gospels, bro. There's a lot of good news in God's kingdom. The good news of the gospel of the kingdom is the kingdom. The gospel of the kingdom is that the kingdom is here. That's the good news. That's the good news. But within that kingdom there's tons of good news. Bro and dude, what shoes do you have on right now?
Speaker 3You might not have on shoes right now, but if you were to go put on your shoes right now, what pair pair would you put on right now? So just go outside right now yeah, if you was to go out right now, what pair would you put on crocs? Okay, you're gonna throw on your crocs you're gonna throw on some crocs.
Speaker 3Yeah, it's still good news. It's still good because you can slip them on, yep, but but you, but you ain't putting on the same pair of shoes for everything you do. No, not at all, not at all. So why do we think he says when you're ready to go to war, to fight, put the, put your shoes on the gospel of peace, meaning that everything about a I'm going, this is how I, this is how I move, it's supposed to be thinking about bringing reconciliation to a situation every time.
Speaker 2Hey, hey, can I pay you a? Just a quick excerpt of that anthem of the box church oh god please, dude please oh please do, please do.
Speaker 1You hear it? This is war.
Speaker 2This means war hey.
Speaker 3This means war bro.
Speaker 2I plead, I plead.
Speaker 3Every day, bro, every moment, every hour of the day. It's a warfare every day. Come on, man, look it's. We're supposed to be modified paul was talking about first of all. He was in a day and a time where he's just bringing this revelation and understanding to a group of people that he's learning about and he's like yes, we are up against some really tough stuff right now, so you need to be prepared. So this is the kind of army you need to take. Uh, so he's giving specific instructions, bro.
Speaker 3Each piece of the armor had a tag on it the breastplate of not just a breastplate, the breastplate of not just a breastplate, but the breastplate of righteousness. There's a bunch of different kind of breastplates Breastplate of righteousness, the heavy and loins. Go about with the belt of truth. Truth Loins, the feet. Preparation of the gospel of peace.
Speaker 3Shield of faith there's a lot of other shields in scripture. It ain't just a shield of faith that exists. There's a lot of other shields in scripture. It ain't just the shield of faith that exists. There's a lot of things. But the shield of faith is that you can quench all the fiery darts, all the missiles, the projectile weapons of the enemy a bullet is a missile and then have your helmet of salvation In every situation you go into, know you win, you are to be delivered out of this situation, you don't die here.
Speaker 3And then your weapon, the sword of the spirit, which is the word of God, a spoken word that's to. It says the word of God, the rhema of God. That's not the whole logos. You ain't walking around carrying a Bible the complete thing. Everywhere you go you need to speak a specific word in a specific situation of other specific event that's happening. That's your sword of the spirit, bro. I don't the box. Church is just that. You know. Like you said, it's just manufacturing and putting out the same stuff over and over again. Hey, use that in every situation. Use it, use the same. Like you just said, I plead the blood in every situation.
Speaker 3Okay, everyone, bro, you know, I mean bro, this is oh man, that was my song, man that was my song man. That was my getting ready, put my clothes on, ready to get it on, and I'm about to get ready to go to church.
Speaker 2I'm about to get ready. Do the gospel hop. You know what I'm saying? The gospel hop, yeah, I was just doing it. I was just doing it.
Speaker 3Because that's your thing. Praise is your weapon every time, bro, every time. And then there's more than one kind of praise. So which praise you know what I mean do I bring, bro? They went, the dude said I was getting an MRI. A person think every m. Oh, they gonna put you in that big machine and make all that. No, you know, putting it like, no, it's just mri, but we're just doing using just the, the little ultrasound wand, and, you know, put your little gel on you and just bro, I'm all ready to go into the machine. You, you know, I'm like, oh my God, it's going to be so tight on my face, I'm claustrophobic, I don't want to go in here and be out. And then they make all that loud noise. I'm preparing for this, bro, and they're going to take me into this room and this is what females like. And I'm like dude, what do I do?
Speaker 3Oh, just stand right there there just like come, put your leg up here. And I'm. I just sat here and worried about all this stuff for a week, bruh, trying to get my game face on. Holy spirit, I know you're gonna be with me in this mri machine. I'm doing all this gassing up, bro, and I walk in the room and the girl just does it. Just get the little one and some gel and hike your leg up for me and pull your pants up and and that was it, okay, you ready to go? You know what I mean. Like what I'm prepared for war, bro.
Speaker 1You know I'm ready to go in there.
Speaker 3I'm gonna be praying in the spirit while my eyes is closed and all this stuff, dude that's funny, man.
Speaker 2When I went, when I had my recently at, I found the opportunity to take a nap. Those is cool in there.
Speaker 3I heard that that hummus but do you see the different perspectives? Oh for sure, See what I mean the different perspectives.
Speaker 2dude, it's crazy. My mom the same way. She was like I don't wanna get in there Cause she's claustrophobic as well.
Speaker 3See, see, yeah, don't box me in. I don't wanna be in, but you know what I'm doing, though I've never been in an MRI. But where am I deriving my experience? From listening to other people? Oh, my god, I remember my dad had one. He dreaded and he dreaded it and he told me about it. And see, that's epigenetics, it's coding me, it's creating this in my. I've never done one, so why would that be my experience? Why would I let somebody else's experience be mine? But you know, hey, that's they know, they went through it, but you went through it and fell asleep. See what I mean Now. Now, I wish I would have got my message from you and not my dad you know what I mean, you see what I'm saying.
Speaker 3I got my messaging from somebody that's living in a fight or flight situation. When it comes to that, if I'd have got my first messaging from you and like, oh man, I man, I just fell asleep, bro, they had to wake me up. So that would have been my thought of it would have been one of peace, of relaxation. Oh man, I'm gonna get it. I love to take a nap. I'm gonna get a chance to take a nap, bro.
Speaker 2You know a procedure that I can sleep through oh, because they gave me that little control to hold a button like if you feel you know, get a little trauma, push the button, man Right. I think that thing was falling out of my hand.
Speaker 3I like your hand, because you don't see now how much different if I would have got my message from you. Yeah, so you know what I mean. Go to the box church and get that message, or get in contact with somebody who actually understands and knows the kingdom and knows the father and get your messaging from them. A lot of people don't even know the scripture in the is in the Bible. This says in Jeremiah I think is Jeremiah nine, and around the 23rd something verse in there.
Speaker 3He says Don't let the mighty man rejoice in his might, don't let the rich man boast in his riches, don't let the wise man boast in his wisdom. But if you're gonna boast there, you go. Let him boast in this fact. And he knows, and he understands me, that I delight in loving, kindness and executing righteousness and judgment in the earth. Yeah, that's a totally different message. Oh, all I got to do is all I got to do is get to know God, and that's where I can boast in. It ain't about my grind, it ain't about my money, it ain't about my ability to produce and it ain't about how much I can learn and know. It's just all I need to do is get to know God, you know what man oh a relationship.
Speaker 1There it is.
Speaker 3Okay, it's about relationship. Okay, okay, relationship, okay, okay, it's about relationship okay, okay that ain't what the box church teach you though bro, no, they'll say that, but they don't teach you that.
Speaker 2No, they don't teach you that. And one thing up with the CK uh situation. I had a um Facebook friend that was she was angry about. She was angry about what happened. A lot of people he was polarizing, but she was angry about it.
Speaker 2I don't care what, anybody if you disagree, I do not. She said. But I was led to the Lord by Charlie Kirk. I will always love him for that, and that's one of the people who feel that way about anybody leading them to God at the end of the day. It's not about who plant the seed or even waters the seed. Come on, bro, it's about giving God the glory.
Speaker 3The glory. Is that not what Paul said? The?
Speaker 2creator. Thank you, we're talking about the creator and not the creation.
Speaker 3Creation Exactly.
Speaker 2If you want to say, yeah, I did it.
Speaker 3But I don't care.
Speaker 2Thank you. I appreciate you for doing that.
Speaker 3Thank you for that.
Speaker 2It's all about God.
Speaker 3That is exactly Bruh. This is literally what Paulul had to fight with then. He was like man. Why is everybody getting attached to all these personalities people want to talk about? I'm a paul, I'm a sephus, I'm of apollos, I'm of christ. He was like man. Listen, come on. Is christ divided?
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Speaker 3come on, he's like we are look one waters, the other one, one plants, one waters, but it's God that gives the increase. I don't care who gave the message. If God didn't illuminate it to you, you ain't getting it. And I don't care. Michael and Gabriel can preach it to you, Right? And if God ain't illuminating it, if it ain't him that's the focus on it, bro you ain't getting nothing out of this. It's God that gives the increase. He's like we are nothing, did you?
Speaker 3even realize that Paul put Christ in that same category. He said one is of Paul, one is of Cephas apollos, I'm of christ. He said who are we? Just the people who the message can, jesus himself that's all I I, I'm the father's, greater than me.
Speaker 3Why? Because jesus was like I'm, I'm the one who brought, and I was bringing the kingdom, and I am the savior and I am the king. But guess what? Father is my god too. This is why I'd be raised from the dead. He's like I'm going to your god. He's, I'm going to the father, your father, my father, your god and my god. Jesus is our elder brother and we love him, we adore him. But guess what Paul said? It's Christ in you that's gonna be the hope of glory, the expectation of the manifestation of God's good in this situation. Not the Christ in Jesus, the Christ in you. But everybody wanna hide behind Jesus, and Jesus is like yeah, you come to me, but you come to me so I can tell you what to do. I ain't doing it for you. I'm going to tell you what to do. What did he say, say? He told Peter Satan, a Peter bro. Satan desired to have you.
Speaker 3Yes, if you accept you as we were. He said but I've prayed for you, not that Satan don't come and not don't, and not that he don't come after you, he coming. He said but guess what? I'm praying? I've prayed for you that your faith don't fail. You, bro, now don't get out of here now if I was peter, I'd be like wait, whoa jesus. You know he coming and you ain't to do nothing to stop him what you talking about. You praying that my faith don't fail me. You do this to stop him.
Speaker 3Jesus, like bro what you want me to say bro, I had my test Right right. Y'all fell asleep on me, but.
Speaker 3I'm going to tell you what to do, but I'm going to tell you what to do. But I'm going to tell you what to do. You know what I mean. So just do what I say and you're good. And you're good. And when you're converted, strengthen your brothers. Jesus already let you know you're going to win, bro, you're going to come through. And just whatever you do, when you come through, strengthen your brothers with it. And then, when you read his epistle, when you read Peter, his writing, that is exactly what he's doing. He's strengthening people based on what he learned when he came through his test. Oh man, what you got for us on the health tip what you got for us on the health tip uh bro um I had a facebook friend with a guy went to school with man named robbie lee.
Speaker 2Like you man, he he had to go to the doctor and you had blood clot. This brother doctor told him the c word bro he's a man of faith, man, man of faith just spiritual, not in, not the way we are, but you know he's you know like blood he, he one his his favorite saying is bless your bloodline brother, bless your blood he's all about the ancestors, but this dude yeah ancestors.
Speaker 2But this dude, yeah, he loves god man and um amen, and so, uh, he wouldn't he. This was a testimony he gave him on facebook and he said the doctor said, uh, that he had to see word and he's like. Doctor said you want a moment? He's like nah, man, you say what?
Speaker 2you said he said you said what you said, yeah, and you know. He said he went home. He said he told seven people and one of the people he told was his daughter. And he said his daughter has a gift. Uh, she dreams and and whatever, and whatever she dreamed to come true and she can read somebody. And he said his daughter looked at her, him, and said you ain't got no c word he was like what, like you ain't gonna, don't even you ain't got no c word.
Speaker 2Yeah, and he's like my, you know, and he and I are alike by holistic and eating health and all that, and so I said all that to say that he talked about Sour.
Speaker 1Sop.
Speaker 2You know which I love? I love the Sour Sop juice. I get the Sour Sop.
Speaker 3What is that bro?
Speaker 2It's a fruit, it's an exotic fruit man, but it has all these benefits. And one thing he had said, man, in his testimony man, he was like. He was like he said he said if God said who he said he was like he said he said if god said who he said he was. So everything that we need on this, whatever we come across or whatever we get inflicted- with it has to be on this earth to cure us come on, he said because if it's not, then that makes the universe incomplete complete.
Speaker 2I was like he's like man his testimony. Is it blessed me so much? Come on bro, come on bro man and um, so he was drinking a sour sop tea. You can go. Go to these health stores. They got the leaves, man I ran, I ran to that boy man come on, dude man. So now how?
Speaker 3do you spell that? What are you saying? Sour sop?
Speaker 2s-o like sour s-o-u-r like sour s-o-u-r and sop s-o-p yep, there it is sour sauce sour sop yeah all right, okay, leaves man have an antioxidant and it's coarse and it has these compounds and eliminate free radicals in the body. They can prevent cell damage and prevent the development of cancer man Come on bro.
Speaker 2This medicinal plant can also inhibit the growth of cells and play the role of fighting different types of cancer like colon, breast, prostate and pancreatic cancer. It says, however, sour soft tea does not replace the treatment. But I mean, that's what you're going to say, but of course they gotta say that, they gotta say that. But god put that on earth, man, it's on our man if everything is not here earth man it's on our man.
Speaker 3If everything is not here, then the universe is incomplete. That is powerful dude. I had to go back.
Speaker 2I I I was like what did he say? It went back right when I took the notes about the power seven.
Speaker 3Go back and listen yeah, because he did it live. He did the face me live.
Speaker 2Okay, yeah, yeah, and I ran back and I was like, ooh, we did the stanky face Like man, I believe you are all one of my brothers.
Speaker 3Oh, that was that dude, that is pro.
Speaker 2He said he went back to the doctor.
Speaker 3The doctor said look the doctor saying look, uh, either we missed something or, if it was, something that was there, right, right and something was there.
Speaker 3That's gone. But it's gone now. But you are, see, free. Come on, man. I love it. Dude, and that is the beautiful part, man, stop fearing about going through this stuff, man, it's you were going through it, but he ain't. I will never leave you nor forsake you. Is what the promise is of our lord jesus christ. If david said, even though I go through the valley of the shadow of death, I will fear no evil. Valley of the shadow of the, I will fear no evil because you're with me, yeah, what do I have to?
Speaker 2fear. If god is with me, then what is it to fear, man? We gotta really understand, and he'll give us the spirit of fear. And I gotta, man, I have you like power, love in the mind.
Speaker 3What did you say? You have what?
Speaker 2I said, man, I got to preach to myself with that man. You know, Bro, me too.
Speaker 3Everyone has to. Everyone has to. Your word in your life is going to be the most powerful word you'll ever hear, because God has got all types of words that even spoke over you. But until we speak it, david said once have I? He said God said it once, but twice have I heard it. Power belongs to God. Well, god can say that power belongs to him, but until you say it, it's not gonna produce anything in your life.
Speaker 3Yeah power belongs to God, bruh, not to the C word, not to anything. Bruh, not to the c word, not to anything else, not to nothing. Jesus was exalted with a name above every name yes, everything out of bow, everything man, and he gave us what we need. So sour sop, it is sour, yeah, I'm by the. Order me some right now. Why are we gonna hear this and be like, where's that stuff that you said you ordered?
Speaker 2I got it. I Got it from Zerbo's and I can't.
Speaker 3They got the leaves.
Speaker 2They got the powder, but I got the leaves. They say, you know, just boil that mug and put it in there I want to get it sip on that and I, I get the, I get the juice, because you get the juice. And then it comes to the pulp. You say you don't like pulp, right, but no, yeah, but the sauce juice is delicious, man. It kind of reminds me of papaya a little bit, but it's just as thick as papaya, but it's a little sweeter.
Speaker 3Oh my, I got me a can in there, but the Pope is like well man, look bro, if it's for health reasons, I'll take the Pope yeah, but when I was at Zerbo's I was like you got the sour salt leaves, like of course.
Speaker 2So she direct me to it, come on, uh. So I was asking you got the?
Speaker 1sour subtly.
Speaker 2It's like, of course. So she direct me to it and I said so, she, you know she was showing me. She says you're going to make you some tea. I said yeah, so I'm gonna make me some tea. I said I usually get the juice, you know. I said I usually, yeah, got you.
Speaker 3Yeah, that makes sense, yeah, that makes sense, yeah, so I was like dope man yeah, want to get it going up there to get it down. Yeah, that's what's up man.
Speaker 2So, uh, one thing I would say take away from this, this, my renewal podcast, this episode is who, no matter who plants or water. God is the focus god, come on man you know, get, get you some, get you some sour sour.
Speaker 3Come on, and because everything that we need God has put it here. Oh yeah, If he didn't, then the universe is incomplete.
Speaker 2Oh my God.
Speaker 3Oh, that is.
Speaker 1Oh, I'm going to put that. That's a merch shirt.
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Speaker 3I'm gonna put that that's a merch shirt I'm gonna do and give your boy some proceeds too, I guess, bro, yeah, yeah man that's dope man. I love that man.
Speaker 2It was something else I was about to say. But yeah, the Sour Soap that sorry, no, no no it's cool and um, but yeah, man, just whatever that's it. Man, just whatever that's it.
Speaker 3Man, that's good enough we'll catch it on the next one, bruh. Yeah, alright, people of God, we love you. Yes, we do just just renew your mind, renew it do your research on the box church alright yeah, peace, peace.
Speaker 1And do your research on the box church. All right, yeah, peace, peace. Thanks for tuning in to the Gospel Twins Podcast. Remember to like, subscribe and share you.