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If We’re The Church, Why Are We Still Going To One?

Sean Hicks and John McArn Season 3 Episode 6

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The joy of a home taking shape collides with the ache of a culture off course. The Gospel Twins share recent stories of racism that cut close to the bone, then ask the question too many churches dodge: how can we claim one Lord, one faith, one baptism while still tolerating division in the pews and prejudice in our hearts? From there, we follow the thread—money, media, and misaligned values—to expose how greed dresses up as normal while neighbors struggle to buy groceries. It’s not about shaming success; it’s about re-centering justice, stewardship, and the Kingdom way.

The brothers delve into the distinction between ecclesia and “church,” illustrating how language drift has transformed a living community into a physical location. If Jesus calls us to worship in spirit and truth, why do we keep chasing stages, titles, and celebrity pulpits? They challenge the clergy-lordship mindset Jesus hates, and we paint a better vision: house-to-house fellowship, shared meals, mutual discipleship, and leaders who actually know the people who labor among them. This isn’t nostalgia; it’s New Testament practice. And it’s how unity gets real enough to heal what Sunday slogans can’t.

Grace takes center stage. Legalism counts sins; the gospel breaks chains. The G.T.s revisit Jesus and the woman caught in adultery to show how no-condemnation empowers genuine change. Then they land the plane with practical stewardship of the body as a temple: which fruits and vegetables handle pesticides better, how to spot cleaner cereals with simple ingredients and lower sugar, and why some plant-based products wreck your gut while others support it. Health is spiritual when the Spirit lives in you.

If you’re hungry for a faith that confronts racism, dethrones empty tradition, and trades box-church habits for living ecclesia, press play and lean in. Share this with someone who needs course correction, subscribe for a fresh kingdom perspective each week, and leave a review to help more people discover the Gospel Twins.

Warm Welcome And Life Updates

SPEAKER_00

This is the Gospel Twins with your host John and John. Your go-to podcast for the kingdom perspective on current events and the good news God has for the culture. Get ready to renew your mind, one piece at a time.

SPEAKER_03

People of God, people of God, welcome to the Gospel Twin Podcast when you get your mind renewed piece by piece and episode by episode. And I am Sean. And I am John. And we are the Gospel Twin.

SPEAKER_02

What up, man? It's all good, man. What you went up to?

SPEAKER_03

Man, uh, first of all, you sent me that uh that video. Nice. I love the way house is coming along, man.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, appreciate you, man. Appreciate you. Yeah, it's it's finally taking shape, man. Wow, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's exciting. I was excited for you.

SPEAKER_02

I'm oh man, appreciate you.

SPEAKER_03

I really know when I uh put the phone down and I looked at myself, I was just smiling, man. Oh man, that's what's up.

SPEAKER_02

That's what's up, man. I really appreciate that.

SPEAKER_03

That was and that was visceral, bro. You know what I'm saying? I wouldn't even think, and then I was like, oh man, yeah, that was that brought me joy, man.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, that's bro. That's what it's supposed to be about, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Seeing sis walk around, I'm like, because I'm happy for her because he sees sis looking like oh, my dream come true.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, yeah. Something about it, man, just uh happening, you know, right right before your eyes, and it's and you just write smack dab in it, man. Literally, literally standing, you know, in inside it.

SPEAKER_03

So your kingdom, your kingdom getting built, bro.

SPEAKER_02

The domain, bro. The domain is is being erected, man. And uh yeah, yeah. And uh, yeah, that's exciting, man. It really is, man. So I appreciate that. Appreciate that. Yeah, what's gonna what you been up to, man?

SPEAKER_03

Oh uh, blessed week. I talked about the last podcast. My brother, I did end up linking linking up with my brother Andre. We had a good time. Yes, sir. And so uh, yep. That's what's up, man.

SPEAKER_02

So that was really good.

SPEAKER_03

And then uh my other brother, Darren's from Texas, he's here for the weekend. So I saw him last night.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, nice. So yeah, brotherly love, you getting loved up real good, man. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_03

Loving it, loving it, loving it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, man, dude. That's what man tell Tell him I said was up, man. For sure, man. He was dude, always he was a Mac from way back.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, yeah. He still hey, he still calls you Big Fella, man. Oh, that's cool, man. That's what's up.

SPEAKER_02

He said, Oh, big fella, like yeah, yeah. I remember, man, because you know, man, because he you know, he was a topic of conversation because you know I had two sisters, bro. So you know, they is uh damn, damn curry. Oh man, that's you're so cute, he fine.

SPEAKER_03

That's what's up, man. You know, he man, he in the heart of that he in the heart of the racism, man. And so we have the conversation. He's been recently called the N-word.

SPEAKER_02

No, he wasn't. No, he wasn't.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we was telling hey, he was telling, we were talking about that, you know. We were talking about how bad things are, and yeah, and um, and how things are in Texas, and he was like, So he started telling us a story. He said, first, he gave me one story. He was like, he was right because he rides his bike, he was riding his bike, man. Roll past this this car with a family, and the kid in the back seat said, calling him the n word.

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Come on, bro.

SPEAKER_03

And he was like, he said, he was just shocked. You know, of course it was it was taught because otherwise, otherwise, because we talked about that because otherwise the car would have stopped, the parent would have got the kid out, apologized to this man, but that didn't happen.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely, absolutely, and he perpetuating bro what he what he being taught. And they probably was like, That's good boy, Billy.

SPEAKER_03

Good boy. He said, What are they going to the party store? And he was saying, but it was an older lady, she was you know, she had mental issues and challenges, so she was out there just talking to the world and just you know spewing stuff, and yeah, he said as he's walking by, she was like, N word. Oh my goodness. He was like he said a couple of weeks ago. I said, bro, I'm thinking I'm thinking telling you stories from way back.

SPEAKER_02

He's like, right, no, no, this just happened.

SPEAKER_03

I'm telling you, man, what is going on, bro? I was like, I don't uh, you know what? I don't want to hear that, man.

SPEAKER_02

I just don't want to hear it, man.

SPEAKER_03

You know, I can handle it, but I don't want to hear it.

SPEAKER_02

Don't want to hear it, dude. It's man anyway. We know, right? Dude, this I'm gonna tell you, man, straight up, man. This this race issue, and that and particularly in our country, man. I don't even I don't I can't even talk about what's going on around the world because I don't live nowhere else. I live here. And bro, this is gonna have, and I'm telling you, has to get resolved, bro. It's gonna have to. It it's it's no when people sit there and say this ain't gonna never get fixed. That's bull. It's gonna have to, bro. It's gonna have to. And I'm saying, and I'm mainly putting this in the face of the church. It's the world is the world, bro. So that that's a whole nother conversation. But this mess exists in the in Christendom. Yeah, it exists. This racism, this racist attitude, this is this is all got to go, man, out of the church, out of the the the people of faith, the people of God is gonna have to resolve this, man. And and this is the one thing Jesus said. He said, they will know that your mind, your love, one for another. Not not the black church, not the white church, not the the Asian church, the Greek church, bro. And Christ, we're all we're all supposed to be of one, one flesh, one mind, one faith, one Lord, one baptism. We're supposed to be one, bro. And I I this mess I can't stand because these same people, you probably I don't know this for sure, but it wouldn't be shocking. Them same people that had the little boy call your brother the N word. If if you were to talk to them or somebody talk to them, they probably would profess they were Christian.

Calling The Church To Confront Racism

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, unfortunate, man. How is that possible, bro? And I I just recently just bad. And I just walked uh when I woke up this morning, I saw the CBS did a lot of firings, they fired all the black people, bro. How is that even allowed?

SPEAKER_02

It because no more DEI, you know, not that not that we benefited the most from DEI, but yeah, when you lift off those little check and balances, man, people go ham.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so uh I saw Gail King talk about it, then I saw another person that's like, yeah, we just we thought we were gonna be hired and we're gonna keep our jobs, and and sure enough, all the black people were let go. And so I guess that's another uh CBS CBS is another station won't be watching.

SPEAKER_02

They got your football though, bro.

SPEAKER_03

I'm straight, bro. I'm straight. I'm just I'm you know, I'm just I'm sick of the all of it because you know you know I only it's only one team that I I I'm a die hard fan for, and that's the Pistons. Yeah, and now the NBA got you chasing your teams all over the place, all over the difference networks, right? So I'm looking at I'm looking at the I'm looking at the schedule and it said Peacock. I'm like, oh my god. And so then they want you to get a subscription to Peacock, right?

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

So I signed up for the seven-day free trial, boy, and then um they said after that 1699. I'm like, up, I'm about to cancel you right now, I'm about to cancel you right now 1699. But they have a lot of stuff to offer, so if I what okay, go ahead. I would I would have to if I was to keep that, I would have to let something else go. But right now I'm not in a position to do that. I like what they have, right? And I had a conversation with our boy D Lund last night, who said, Oh man, they got me, man. I had to get a subscription. It's like I sell an NBA, but not like that, bro. I'm like that, man. I'm sick of these people, you know. It's in my pocket. Get your hand up my pocket. Right, right.

SPEAKER_04

Get your hand up my pocket.

SPEAKER_02

It's craziness, man. I'm talking about it's bro, it's just it's so much, so much greed, man, it is going on. It is just it's it's ridiculous. Um, and not and bro, and we were this ain't even something we was gonna talk about, but hey, everything's kingdom.

SPEAKER_01

So everything's kingdom, yeah.

Money, Greed, And Misplaced Priorities

SPEAKER_02

So yeah, so man, when I'm looking at all these people with um these these contracts uh that's coming up, man, and I mean you talking about in the the tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, bro, for for people playing, and I ain't knocking nobody that that can can can command that kind of revenue, but bruh, you cannot tell me we haven't financial issues when you can't. I remember too, Pac that you can't tell me that you something is gonna be some person is getting 22 million dollars over here just for this a year, and and it's in a country where you got homeless people, bro, and you got one person getting 20 and and this is for sports, dude. For sports, you know. I mean, it paying half a billion dollars, dude, for arenas and two billion for sports arenas, and I'm not knocking it. I enjoy sports, I love sports, and what I'm trying to say is there's no shortage of financial resources, is what I'm saying. It's just disproportionate, bro. How does the school teacher barely make enough and uh a person that's just playing a sport can make millions upon millions, or whoever, you know, the firemen or whatever, people that you know are doing things on a daily, you know, for society, and these people play once a week. You know, I ain't what I'm talking football, obviously, but you know, and and getting commanding all this money, man. And and we still got issues over here. The government shut down, and you got people, man, is not even working right now. You know what I mean? And but on the but the headlines is people's contracts is being, you know, worked out and stuff, and you're talking about these tens and hundreds of millions of dollars, man. It's just it's so disproportionate when it comes to to what's righteous in this world, man. It's just it's ridiculous, man.

SPEAKER_03

And I I had a um I had a Facebook friend that said, you know, she had made a post that she's very political and she's a Republican, and so everything is white, white, right wing on her page.

SPEAKER_01

Sure.

SPEAKER_03

So she posts uh the longest filibuster in US history was in 1957 when Democrats opposed the Civil Rights Act. And then she said, Enough said, exclamation point. And then I was like, and I was like, and I had to comment. I said at this point, we all are losing.

SPEAKER_02

Right.

SPEAKER_03

I said the blame game never works.

SPEAKER_02

Both said both sides never have and never will.

SPEAKER_03

Both sides are responsible people, absolutely, people are losing their jobs, getting laid off. I know that because my job asking for uh volunteer for six weeks to be laid off, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

For people see and all it right, people using up furlough and PTO and all dude, and that's which you should be using for your personal you know vacations or something like that. You gotta use it just to get paid, you know, or whatever, man. Dude, that's because I'm gonna let you because I'm gonna let you off, you know, but so or you know, whatever they want to call it. Yeah, that's sucky, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Then I was like, and then people out here buying groceries with credit cards. I said they all sh they all should be replaced. How about that? They all, I mean, this the fact that this is you're not doing your job, yeah. So y'all got to go. Let's let's let's go vote some new people in and clean along.

SPEAKER_02

Clean slate, yep.

SPEAKER_03

You know, as I said, and then I ended up I said a house divided never stands and it never can't.

SPEAKER_02

Nope, it can't that that's too much truth, bro. Oh, don't bring Jesus words in, please. You know, oh yeah, you know, you guys not the truth, yeah, not the truth.

SPEAKER_03

Gotta be leaving, man.

SPEAKER_02

I just slide in and then like all right, just leaning on them, man, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's that's and and then you know Friday was Halloween, so I had an interesting, interesting conversation when I was in therapy. Oh, because I was you know, my therapy uh facility is downtown Belleville, and so Halloween, downtown Belleville is popping, man. So wow. Uh my session is between four and five o'clock p.m. And you could just see the families and the kids coming out, and and I would just start to get busy, and then uh conversation came up was like this lady's like, what is wrong with people trying to harm children? Because now they're using fentanyl, they lacing the candy with fentanyl. Yeah, and then this is what I told her. I said, I said, uh, I said, Well, Halloween is the highest day in the satanic calendar, and regardless, regardless of your intent, you can't you can't make this a family day. No, no, because she just so many things you it's so many things you gotta uh be mindful of, absolutely, you know. We got holidays like all right, uh 4th of July, make sure you don't blow your hands off, you know, like that. But Halloween got many of them, right? It's got so much, so many implications, but you want to make this a family day. We're gonna oh we're gonna look over this and that.

SPEAKER_02

Let let me tell you the new caveat that I saw. Well, I didn't see it, I was told it by somebody who was outdoing who was trick-or-treating. Uh, dude, they had a setup out in the front yard where they were for the parents, they had jello shots and stuff, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I've seen that before.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man, come on, bro. This just seems like it's something that just ain't right about that. Okay, so I'm gonna give you shots of alcohol while you out here walking your children around trick-or-treat.

SPEAKER_03

They gotta stay warm, bro.

SPEAKER_02

Oh man. I'm like, this is getting this is it's long gotten out of hand, but now, bro, that just seemed like that is something just ought to be illegal about that, man. Now you can just be outside just handing alcohol out to folk, and and what and what's to stop if you out there and doing this, what's to stop one of them a kid, a teenager grabbing a jello shot and and throwing it down real quick.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh man, yeah. In my neighborhood, it's like everybody has garages, they are usually open, and so they serve. We before I cut it, before I shut it down, man, we would serve uh potato soup, all types of stuff, just warm stuff. And so, oh yeah, people come and get a cup of wow. I wouldn't, I you know, that's what not if I was treating, I'm like you would serve it up, but you ain't taking it, but that was my mother-in-law, you know. She ain't potato soup, yeah. But I was like, I don't know, but people would, they would come out because it especially was especially because it was cold, so you give them something warm, sort of soup or the cocoa, and yeah, jello shots is included, man. We wouldn't do that, but I I know other families that would serve the jello shit.

Traditions Of Men Vs Truth

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy. See, that was a new one on me, man. I was like, well, because I never been down with the Halloween scene, so yeah, yeah, you know, and um, but yeah, man. So I I grew up, man. My parents wouldn't wasn't doing it, but so I never got connected to it. I, you know, I whined about it sometimes when I got a little bit older, and they let me go buy a little costume or or something and go somewhere else, but they wouldn't do it, and they wouldn't they let me go with somebody, but they wouldn't they weren't passing out no candy and they wasn't having it, you know, at the crib.

SPEAKER_03

So yeah, that's that's but have you been to like a child's birthday party and and the parents getting it in? You never seen that?

SPEAKER_02

I haven't. No, really, never.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, I don't know, man. Oh, yeah. It's like it's more their party than the kids.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, wow.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man serving drinks, man, getting it in. They oh my god, you got the drinks over side over here, and then over here, you got the kid table with the ice cream.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god, that's just oh yeah, just got the adult version and the and the and the and the PG ver the adult table and the rated R table and the PG sheets, they be getting it in, dog.

SPEAKER_04

They be getting it in. It's too much, bro. It's too much, man.

SPEAKER_03

Don't have somebody who can't handle handle their liquor, man. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Arguing and stuff, the kids up there, and you got kids around here, bruh.

SPEAKER_03

That's God bless my soul. I had a cousin, man. Sorry for laughing, but it goes over her house. It was Easter. She's yeah, she's preparing Easter dinner, man. And kids, she had she had a lot of kids, man. Okay, and she had one in the oven. She had one in the oven. Kids running around. She's cooking with a blunt in her mouth, man.

SPEAKER_05

Oh my goodness, bro.

SPEAKER_03

As she's cooking, like, I'm like, what the ash is easily gonna fall in the dishes. First of all, right, right. I said, cuz aren't you pregnant? And why are you cooking over? Why are you smoking over your food like that? Wow, cuz that's Easter. Like, man, I that's even more reason not to.

SPEAKER_02

So, this is what we're doing with the resurrection of Christ, bro.

SPEAKER_03

This is what we doing, this is what we do, the new traditions of men, man. The new traditions are like, they suck, bro.

SPEAKER_02

They suck. They suck, man. And and here, bro, okay. Now that you you meant you mentioned traditions of man, bro. Okay. So the one thing, the one thing that Christ says makes the word of God non-effective in your life is the traditions of man. He doesn't say Satan, he doesn't say the kingdom of darkness, he doesn't say sin or whatever. He doesn't say that that the power of God is nullified in those situations. He says the traditions of men is what does it. So to me, we always talk about what the devil is doing and worried about the this and that and this and that. Bro, how much of us, how many of us are really searching out the traditions that men have made and know that I'm involved in a tradition of some man's tradition, not the truth, something that some man has has come up with and and tagging righteousness and stuff on to it, but God's his the power of God is nullified because of it. Bro, I'm more scared of your tradition than I'm scared of the devil.

SPEAKER_03

Today is Sunday, you already know, man. And thing about it is majority of the church practices are from the traditions of men, but you have to want to you know want to know that information to look it up. And I saw somebody online talking about uh she was talking about the traditions of men. I was like, Oh, we got a new covenant believer. What up, sis? I was like, Yeah, man, church. I didn't say box church. I said, Yeah, the church, man. Maybe teaching the traditions, man. She said, then she responded, not all of them.

SPEAKER_02

I'm like, oh, here we go.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, she deflated, she deflated my balloon.

SPEAKER_02

It's such an easy, it's not like the the traditions of men has to be shut down, it it can't be reformed, you know what I mean. It's Christians are notorious for trying to flip pagan traditions into the faithful ones, man. You can't you he says, What fellowship has has light with darkness, Christ with Balaw? You can't sit at the table of the Lord and the table of the devils, man. It's just you can't fuse it. You can't fuse it, bro. Now, when a person says, Well, you then that's the case, you can't then you can't reform uh uh you know marriage and all of that stuff, then you because all of the because if marriage people then now it's open marriage, it's this kind of marriage, it's this like you know you don't reform marriage because marriage has always been God's idea. Yep, it's the fact they perverted marriage. I don't need to reform it. You just reclaim it, you just you just put it back the way that it was when you had these pagan days and traditions and stuff. We just had Halloween. Man, you know, you want to flip it and to call it All Saints Day and all this stuff, and all harvest time and and dude. You can't that was never meant to God. Never started that. That's not nothing you take, and even when you say all saints day, you're still celebrating the dead, still, you know what I mean. So you you just tried to put a righteous twist on it, and and you can't do it, man. It's stuff that you got to shut down. I mean, there are things that the Lord said, let it die. It it don't anyway, man.

SPEAKER_03

Man, we gotta I hooked you up on uh that book that uh Matt McMellan suggests. Oh, yeah, man. Yep, yep. Taking Christianity by Frank Viola and George Barnab. Uh, I mean, just head blown. Matter of fact, it was something in there that was spoken about being off course. Did you hear that part? Reminded me of your dad, man, to talk about just being off course.

SPEAKER_02

And one degree, yep.

SPEAKER_03

One degree, and you could just end up in a different country. You got it? Totally, yeah.

Redefining Terms And Cultural Drift

SPEAKER_02

Yep, but dude, he he yeah, I was I was captivated with that because yeah, that I grew up, my dad was teaching that. And dude, one degree, just one degree off course. And if you don't course correct, I mean, man, your whole walk with God is a constant course correction, constantly, yeah. Because because we're in living in a world, man, where the world can say this, it it has all its influence, and but I gotta see put that up against what God says to determine if if I can do it or not. Why don't what is it with people just don't realize that God is the one that you're supposed to be listening to? Why why is that so hard, dude? Why is that so hard, man?

SPEAKER_03

People just it's it's it's become laziness. I don't want to say lazy, lazy, but you just get so used to seeing somebody just giving you all the information, telling you what to do, yeah. No, and um it wasn't like I said, man, it wasn't until like the the pandemic came and I was on my own devices when I started doing read the Bible on my own, yeah, and learning about the Hebrew and Greek text, yes, and that's very important. Very you need to know what these words mean and what they translate because what the actual word was, right? And some words don't translate, and that's why you need to understand absolutely uh strong concordance, the blue light bible though, yeah. Those are great tools to uh learn from.

SPEAKER_02

Absolutely, and cause uh we already knew about how do you say you know they say ecclesia, um some people's ecclesia, ecclesia, ecclesia, yeah, it depends on where you yeah, how you hit your vials, I guess.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, and so that word is in that word ecclesia, which is translated to church, is in the Bible 115 times. 115 times, and the other word that gets confused is Kyriacon, K-Y-R-I-A-K-O-N. And in the early text, the term ecclesia and kariachon have distinctly different meanings and uses. Ecclesia is a Greek term meaning assembly or called out group. Yes. In both both secular and new testament context. Absolutely. It it always conf refers to people, a congregation, community, assembly gathered for a common purpose. Yes. Whether it's civic, but back then it was civic, uh or religious. In the New Testament, Ecclesia is used 115 times, always describing a group of believers or an assembly, but never a building. Never a building.

SPEAKER_02

Never, never. Nope. Nope.

SPEAKER_03

And in contrast, kariachin, a Greek word karyakus, meaning the uh meaning of the Lord, refers to something that belongs to the Lord. To him, right? And over time it became associated with the place.

SPEAKER_02

Man, that's that's crazy, dude. That is crazy. And but the redefinition of terms, man, is is is a very serious thing. And and and we've seen the redefinition of terms in our culture dramatically, dramatically. Um, so much to whereas you you it's it's sparked gender confusion. Like, man, how how can you now and and of course, man, we are never attacking anyone. It's it's just uh identifying and observing what is happening culturally or socially around us. Now, bruh, they do you know that there are people now where they're asking you on like when a you're in a hospital, I forget what state this is in, so I'm not gonna say it because I don't know exactly, but I do know that there are multiple states that have adopted this. When you're have having a child, do you know what gender you want to assign to this child? A sign gender is I thought that was a God thing. I thought he determines what the gender is gonna be. And and and bruh, it we're informed of the gender. When when when now obviously technology, we can see things sooner, but we were informed once the woman had the child what the gender was. We we don't decide what it's gonna be. And assign it to it. And this is this is, I know that this is a hot topic, and people it's not politically correct, but this is what happens when you don't nip redefinition of terms in the bud. When you just let it keep going and keep going and keep you talking about that one degree off course. If you don't course correct when it happens, this is what you get. And when we wind up landing, we are literally so far away from the destination that it is ridiculous how far off we are. Man, it's just uh yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, because like when the baby comes out, you look at the genitalia, then there you go.

Ecclesia Not Buildings

SPEAKER_02

That's that's your gender. There, there's your gender. And and you'll have people, well, what about the people who are born with, you know, as that they call her maphonite or whatever like that? Okay, you're you're you're trying to bring in very uh specific and unique situations to make a general concept. It's just like a person, you know, when they used to even argue about the gospel being preached. What about the person in the bush and then the you know the indigenous people that's somewhere remotely that never heard the gospel? How are they gonna be judged and this and that? See, you're again trying to bring up the most you know, outrageous situation to make a blanket statement. What about the woman that when she has you know people that are uh against abortion, this woman got raped, and it was a you're talking about a very minuscule situation that should be addressed on a case basis, but as a general thing, yes, we probably shouldn't be murdering children because because I'd have to say 80 plus percent of it is birth control. Yep, it's not because the mother's life is in danger, it's not because the woman was raped or anything, it it's it's birth control. I was out wilding, I got pregnant, and I don't want to be pregnant. So I'm gonna abort the child.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, uh one thing I have mentioned on the previous episode, because uh I did read where you know when the church went underground because people being persecuted. But there was a time when the church to the church could have could have gone out in public and they could have built buildings, but they they decided it was intent that they wanted to stay in their homes. Absolutely, absolutely, and um as you know, as as the followers grew in Christ, man, you know, the the size grew, so they started having these homes, they would accommodate by the growing numbers by tearing down walls.

SPEAKER_02

They renovate the house, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, and the first house that they they found was that was back in uh two uh two three uh two hundred and thirty-three AD, bro, in Syria. Yeah, it was a res a residential home converted to accommodated Christian worship, man.

SPEAKER_02

Yep, yep, because it was more people, it was more people that was coming to the knowledge of the truth and wanting to gather under this common faith, you know, and to uh come together with like-minded believers, man. This is this is always been the heart of God concerning his people, all of that buildings and temples and shrines and stuff, bro, those were pagan practices, man. Yeah, that would that was for pagan deities. Why? Because those gods love that that pomp and circumstance, man. You it literally says that about Lucifer and Isaiah 14. It says, I will do all of this and I will be like the most high. And and it talks about all the pomp and circumstance that he that he wanted, that he sought after, man, because they love that parade. That that, oh my god, and and and the origins of parade is is crazy, but you know, we you know, but again, traditions of men, but what do we do with parades, man? We get out, we go out, and we're looking at all these big images, these floats, and all this stuff is always about elevation, someone towering or being higher than the rest of the of the people. That it's the same way in the churches today, pulpits and all of that. That's all he he he taught, he goes into all of that in pagan Christianity and and tell you where it all that came from and where it stemmed from. Let me ask you this, bro. Where did all that first lady and first family come from in the church? Oh, pride, what else can you call it? That's straight pride. We're more important than you, my family. This is the first family. That's straight. What is the crap in God's house, bro?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, so the people who get who listen to this and get offended, because I know is there's uh pastors and first ladies who listen to this, it is, yeah. No shade, but the truth is the truth.

SPEAKER_02

No, it's it's shade. Okay, okay. Wow, yeah, yeah. You can't, you can't, you can't over probably gotta be dealt with, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, right. My bad. I don't compromise. Yeah, so I don't want to offend nobody, but yeah, we don't intend to, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We really don't intend to, but yeah, offended, they told Jesus that. Don't you know what you just said? Offended all of them?

SPEAKER_03

Jesus said, Look, that's my guy.

SPEAKER_02

What you want me to do, bro? I if they the thing is not what I'm saying is offensive, why are they offended? That's the problem. We always want to come after the person that said something that was offensive. Why are you offended by that? Yeah, I'm not we're not saying it to them to make them feel bad about it. We're asking you where did that do your own research and find out where did that practice come from?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that first uh the archaeological find of the house of Europeus Dura Eupis. That was the first that was the first house that they found in Syria, and then they saw that it was accommodating a couple of things.

SPEAKER_02

They renovated, make it bigger.

SPEAKER_03

So the practice should be, you know, you get in a body of Christ. So so next Sunday, we're gonna be at your we're gonna meet at your crib, John. Yeah, and I'll bring I'm gonna bring some food, you know. Um brother such and such about to bring the guitar, yeah, we're gonna sing some hymns, and then you might say something, and you might ask me to come up and say something in my testimony, and we just we just gonna love on the Lord, and we're gonna love on the Lord, and and love on each other, and love each other, and strengthen each other.

SPEAKER_02

There it is, bro. That's the ecclesia because that's the gathering of the called out ones, it's it's the gathering of the saints that in one place with one mind and with one purpose, not to be entertained. I bro, I can go to a concert, I can go and pay because this is what's the difference. You're gonna hit me with these tithes and offerings, and well, I was about to say these tithes and offerings, these kinds of tickets is crazy nowadays, but bro.

SPEAKER_03

I just want to say this real quick because you know, new edition boys men and Tony Braxton like yeah, I saw that. Oh man, I look at these tickets.

SPEAKER_02

I was like, oh my god, how much were they, bro?

SPEAKER_03

I mean, if you want to get if you want to get way at the top, you can get them for a hundred dollars a piece.

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What?

SPEAKER_02

See that and that's the cheapest thing, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

That's the cheap thing. 100 apiece. But if you want to get it close, man, I saw anywhere from 500 to 700,$1,200. I'm like, I'm not doing it.

SPEAKER_02

I no, when I got your catalog on my phone, man, I don't want to feel I wanna be with you like that. Unless you come into the crib.

SPEAKER_03

So my brother was like, Man, don't you just you could just be in the house, but I I want to I want to have a c a better seat, man. You wanna be right? You want to feel it, you want to feel the vibe, man. But I think but I think I'ma go anyway, and because my wife has never seen them. And uh, do you know I ain't never seen any of them either, bro?

SPEAKER_02

I ain't never seen what about boys and men? Never, never, nope, yeah, never seen them, bro. Never seen them.

SPEAKER_03

I've seen I seen both of them several times. And e I seen so many, so much to the point where it's like I remember going to the concert, it was like I'm not seeing them anymore because I knew you knew all of you knew the list, you knew the steps, the the choreography. Y'all need to switch, I got too much, too much music. Y'all need to change it. They said they're gonna do it, they said they're gonna do it this time, they're gonna do it this time.

SPEAKER_02

And boy's menus, and I'm not no man. I mean, they I mean to have that kind of vocal, you know, prowess, man. That's just amazing. Sit there and look at that. All three of them. Now, let me ask you this, because they and man, and I bro, I ain't know until I started seeing Sean on social media, man, doing his little thing. Um, I didn't even know he was as talented as he as he as he is, dude.

SPEAKER_03

Yep, you go to concert, he's when you go to see boys and men, he's the ones up front. I don't know if you saw them on a breakfast club. Sorry, people guy, but yeah, we little sidebar.

SPEAKER_02

But uh I saw them on the club. Everything's kingdom, dude.

Clergy Hierarchy And Double Honor

SPEAKER_03

Everything we saw them on uh I saw them on a breakfast club, and Sean Stockman was talking the most, and he's like that. And uh when I went to see uh Boys and Men, he was up front talking, and he was he was like the leader, like the vocal, the vocal leader, right? Right, wow, I had no clue about that. Volcal leader, you know, then you know uh one year takes it to church, he's like most talented vocalists, yeah. The vocal, yeah, and then Nathan, Nathan is just he he's the one you just don't want to mess with. He seems don't just scrunt him, but he got a voice, man. And and really, oh yeah, he can sing, but he uh I guess he still got issues with Mike Bivens, man. And they talked about it, they talked about it. He was like, We just work, you know, pretty much like we haven't really squashed our issues. Oh man. And uh one of the man, I think Ralph was like, Yeah, I thought y'all was gonna come to blows. And uh wow, wow, yeah, so it's something still there, but they they uh put it putting it to the side so they can get that money, so they can have so they can get the paper.

SPEAKER_02

Now, let me ask you this because from what I hear is that when this concert, they're gonna all be out on stage together the whole time, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, yeah, did you hear that? Nah, they didn't say that, but I I did see them practicing, and so I saw that happening during that practice.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, they said they're gonna be out together on stage the whole time, and I think it's supposed to be like a secular stage, like it's gonna be I'm not secular, circular stage in the middle, and they're gonna all be out on stage the whole time together. Tony, all of them. That's crazy. I never heard that before, man. I was like, wow.

SPEAKER_03

No, and now you hook me up. I think I'm gonna go now, man.

SPEAKER_02

I had to grab a seat, man. Even the level. Yeah, I ain't never seen that. That's dope, man. So that means they gotta learn each other's harmonies, you know. They gonna dance for each other and do all that, man. I mean, that's that's dope, man. That's dope.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, but they're gonna do the different songs, but yeah. How do we how do we get here, man? I don't know.

SPEAKER_02

I don't know how that flipped. It could be, I think because we were talking about venues, how the church they got so concert-like, and uh oh, we're talking about pride and the first lady, right? Right now, yeah, dude. And here, okay, and you know, bro, uh the the scripture says, give the people who are worthy honor, you know, and then those who are worthy of double honor, double honor. But we we've equated that with just because you're the pastor or whatever, you're you're uh worthy of double honor, you know, just because you're the pastor of the church or this or that. And and that is not per se what Paul was talking about. He said, those who are elders who are teaching those who are coming up the the ways of God and the edicts of the kingdom and stuff, stuff like that. Our pastors are not doing that. They're not they're not doing that, and we and then he's talking about hands-on folk, you know what I mean? Some people, man, at these churches, especially the big ones, the what we call quote unquote mega churches, uh, don't even hardly know their pastor, you know. And it's and and Paul told Timothy, like, no, you need to know the people that labor among you, man. You know, but these people is untouchable. It's like people then became, you know, they got security, they got all that, man. And dude, it's so opposite the character of Christ. And, you know, I don't think because you know the scriptures, man, in Revelation, when Jesus is talking to the churches, he he's saying one thing he said he I hate is the doctrine uh of Balaam and the doctrine of the Nicolaitans. Okay, now we know Balaam, we can go find that story and and and see exactly what he hates about that, but the Nicolaitans is not really spoken of in the biblical context. You gotta do extra biblical studies to find them and know what that was about. But however, because it's it's written in the Greek and Greek names on when names that you had in the scriptures meant something, they weren't just titles or whatever, they meant, they carried a characteristic. So the the Nicolaetans is is two Greek words, Nike, where we get Nike, uh, which means to conquer, and the laotans are where we get laity. So it meant when you put the word together, means to lord over the laity. And Jesus said he hates that doctrine. What do you see in the modern day church? The the people the club people are in the positions of clergy, they they lord over the laity, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, that's that clergy hierarchy, hierarchy.

SPEAKER_02

The hierarchy, right? Jesus literally says, I hate that. And how you know that is when you look at the life of Christ, man. Jesus was so in engulfed and involved and engaged with his disciples, bro, to whereas when the soldiers and them came, they was like, Well, which one is he?

SPEAKER_03

Man, you preaching, Pastor. You preaching.

SPEAKER_02

I'm how that how have like you you just said, how did we get to where we how have we gotten here as the body of Christ, bro, to where we got the text. We got we can go, it's oh as we always say, it's an open book test, bro.

SPEAKER_03

But you like we also also said you got to go outside other sources, yes, some stuff outside, you know, and this is and this is right here. I mean, the fact that a lot of these practices come from pagan practices, absolutely. So, all right, we about to start the church, like uh we need some ideas. Oh, that church down there that that uh worship the sun, that's let's do kind of what they do. Right, let's do that. Well, we're gonna just give it a little other twist, uh quote unquote Christian twisting, right?

SPEAKER_02

Naming, naming churches after past you know, apostles and and building the church on their grace on their grave sites, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Come on, that is so bad. And we're still doing it, man.

Worship In Spirit Not Temples

SPEAKER_02

To this day, dude, to this day, and same same just sit back just like just drew, dude. He just backed this thing. Look, dude, I can imagine the kind of reports this dude get on a daily basis, you know. You know what I mean? And so he only threatened by the kingdom. That's it. I mean, literally, Jesus says the only thing that Satan comes after is people who is being taught the kingdom, and he tries to take it from them. He it it says he comes immediately to steal the king, the kingdom concept from people. Why? Because that's the only thing he means Satan don't care if you got religion. He bro, he loves for you to go to church for this, for this this temple stuff. Yep, he loves that, man. These shrines and all that. Man, you can't chew gum in the sanctuary. What you just said that you just you just alluded to the scripture when it said, Oh, we you I'm gonna come over your house, man. We're gonna bring some food, we're gonna break because literally in the book of Acts, it said the church grew and they went over house to house breaking bread with each other, yeah. Eating, if you look at the script, when you look at Christ, the ministry, man. How many times did you see Jesus ministering over food? You know, going in somebody's house, or bruh, the first miracle we ever see him do, it was at a party, man. He turned water to wine, bruh.

SPEAKER_03

Look here, man. I'm about to come throw a sup with you, man. That's it, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

That's exactly what it said. The father stand in Revelations. He stands at the door and not any man that opens up, me and the father will come in and sup with him. Jesus wants to seat at the table, bruh. He wants to, he wants to get in your life, he wants to be, he wants to be that guy in your life, dude. Let me kick it, dude.

SPEAKER_03

And we're so far off. The church is so far off. Because, like, I remember when I first got into the faith and um well, back into it, strong, uh, reconnecting with the Lord. I remember talking to a brother at work, he was like, and because people think you're doing God a favor by going to church, man.

SPEAKER_02

Right, right.

SPEAKER_03

Reading your Bible, right?

SPEAKER_02

Oh, especially that.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, you're reading your Bible devotions, man.

SPEAKER_02

Look, don't bro, don't bother me doing I'm doing my devotions to the Lord.

SPEAKER_03

You know, I'm getting my check mark right now, so exactly.

SPEAKER_02

You know what I'm saying? Exactly. You messing with my you messing with my report card for the for the quarter, bro. Stop. I gotta get all A's, bro.

SPEAKER_03

This brother said, I'll just go to church. I spent he said, I do my time, bro. This is what he said.

SPEAKER_02

I go to church, I do my time, I pay my tithes, you know, all of the have to's, bro.

SPEAKER_03

And they say, I'm out, I'm going home. I was like, you don't sit there kicking with nobody, nah, man. I do my time, I do, and I go over to the grid. How what is that?

SPEAKER_02

That's the mentality though, dude. I can't even front, man. I used to feel the same way.

SPEAKER_04

No, you how can you not when you go to the perpetuated?

SPEAKER_03

I got my my got my my my hands in. Oh man, I'm not listening to more than four songs. I'm good, man.

SPEAKER_02

Come on, bruh. I many give me that, give me these announcements, what you got coming up, and come on and bring this this word so we can go on and get up out of here. And bro, how how did how good did you feel after you got done? And you're like, Man, I went to church, bro. I did, you know, I checked, like you said, I checked my box, I feel good for the week. You dig? I'm I'm good. I'm good. Or if you didn't go, you felt condemned.

SPEAKER_03

Oh my god, yeah, that's that box church. How can you how is that joy, man? Just like that in that pagan Christianity. When he mean, he brought it, he thought about it. It's like we wake up and my kids are fighting, and we gotta put on these clothes, and he said, How many other people that go to church are going through some issues and then come to church? Tons. And then what is Sunday school? What is Sunday school?

SPEAKER_04

What is Sunday school? Bro, it's just like when you think about it on Sunday, bro.

SPEAKER_03

It's like that's so far from a relationship. Like, what is that?

House-To-House Fellowship Vision

SPEAKER_02

Because you're not got so you didn't they didn't need Sunday school because they were gathering on a regular basis with each other and literally communing with one another over the scriptures. But but see again, Jesus said you'll know them, they're loved one for another. How can you grow in love with people, bro, that you ain't spending no time with? I can't tell you how many times I would go to church and not even remember who I sat next to. Yeah, I didn't know their name, you know, unless I was at a you know, back in the day when I went to church and everybody knew each other, like cheers. But you know, it it dude, these mega churches, you go, I didn't know these people. Look at your neighbor, give them a high five, and tell them, you know, you're in the right place today. You're in the right place today. Or I don't know who I'm talking to, I don't know who this is for. I don't the pastor, I don't know who I'm talking to. Why not? Why don't you know who you're talking to? You know what I mean? I mean, it's 5,000 of y'all. Look, that got out of hand right there. That lets you know right there it's out of hand. If you can't have fellowship with these people and know them, know them who labor among you, then how can you even how can you know when crap is creeping up among the believers that they shouldn't be following? You don't know. Nope. You don't know. You just get up there and spew out all his word and stuff, and and and just trust people, take notes and go home and what people you know do that, man. On a on a mass basis, very few people. And you I used to ask people at the church, like, yeah, man, church, man, you missed. It was a time today. I'm like, oh man, what what did he preach about? Um, right, yeah, man. I know the spirit was moving, I know that. Yeah, okay. Okay, bro. Spirit is in this place today, as if he was there, man. You missed out. Oh, it and what kind of mess is that to tell somebody you miss if you weren't in church today, you miss God. Wow, because he in the 'cause he's in the building. Because he's in the building.

SPEAKER_03

If you want to experience that love and all that, you got to go in that side that building.

SPEAKER_02

You gotta go in the building. What what do people use? All right, the people, man, you need to come to my church. Go out there and get people to come to church, get people to come to church. Not go out there and be the church to people, go out there and get the people to come to church. Well, if they come to you, they should be at the church. That that should be the case. And in fact, that's opposite because Jesus said, Go into all the world, you know, and and and teach them, preaching the gospel, teaching them to all nations, and to teaching them and baptizing them, submerging them in the knowledge of the name of the Father, the Son, and the Holy Ghost. Not baptizing them in water and dipping them in the name of the Father, Son, but baptizing them in the character, the nature, and the authority of these the Godhead, and teach them to observe to do on the things you've been commanded. Bruh, you tell believer what has God commanded? You can they um man, I know we got to live righteous, you know. Um well, what does that mean to live to live righteous?

SPEAKER_03

Oh, you know, you can't say it, man.

SPEAKER_02

No cussing, you know, things. You you oh my god, you can't see behavior is behavior-based, man. That that's that's what the Pharisees and Sadducees talk.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah. I I just I was uh that group that I sent you, the Matt Mellon group, Freedom and Christ. Uh it says, uh, somebody said the good news is greater than sin. It is, and then this guy named Jeremiah Ryan says that a sin-focused mind worries about condoning or not condoning sin, which is something not mentioned in the New Testament. And then he says a grace-focused mind can minister to all paying no attention to sin.

SPEAKER_02

Uh none. Don't even see it, bro. I love that group, man. I you know what? I'm gonna have to get in there. I'm gonna have to get in there. Yeah, bro. Dude, Pete. Do you know the gospel was so over the top? The good news of the kingdom and the grace that came. It said that that Moses brought the law, but grace and truth came with Jesus, man. So he brought the kingdom. The the the throne is called the throne of grace, man. So he so so, bruh, it's so over the top that people were confused. Like, so are you saying that we can keep sinning? You know, the the gospel should be so over the top good that it confuse you that way. Like, man, so we could just pause it. Look, man, shall we continue in sin that grace may abound? He's like, God forbid, that's not what I'm talking about. Is you're dead to sin. The thing is, is that it's it's not it's non-existent because he's talking about the root of it, the iniquity of it. Will you still do some things that that are crosswise to God's perfect will? Probably. This is why he says, Come boldly to the throne of grace, obtain mercy. Why do I need mercy? Because you did something wrong. There's no condemnation in Christ Jesus to them that walk after the spirit and not after the flesh. Paul said, You're not, and walking after the flesh don't have nothing to do with what we the actual behaviors that we execute on a regular basis. Because Paul said, Look, you live in the spirit. Christ did that, but since you live in the spirit, why don't you walk according to it?

Health Temple: Clean Fifteen Highlights

SPEAKER_03

And think about it is, man, the grace, grace is so important because what I mean, without it, you just you just focus everything because you focus on your sin and then you feel condemned. What's you do? Then which is a sin. It is so if you just con if you concentrate on grace, like okay, you know, it's a hamster will man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's a hamster will, and Christ came to set us free. Like you said, yeah, you focus on grace, sin becomes irrelevant, dude.

SPEAKER_03

I mean, it literally says, man, I can't say I don't condemn you, man.

SPEAKER_02

He said that bruh, it said they brought a woman caught in the act of adultery, bro. Caught we we Lord, we caught her doing it now. Moses, the law says you need to stone her. She needs to be stoned. Jesus goes down, writes on the ground. Don't know what he was writing, but I'm sure whatever it was, it was convicting them, and it said they start leaving one by one. And he said, Look, he didn't disqualify. He said, Yeah, that's what the law says. So, any one of y'all who are without sin, throw it, throw the first stone, throw it at her. And then he keeps writing. It said they begin to leave one by one, from the greatest to the least. The older people would leave first. Like, oh man, he got me, bro. He got me. All right, man. And then when Jesus looks up, he was like, Woman, where are your accusers? She was like, He's like, There's none left to accuse you. She's like, None, Lord. He said, Neither do I. Go your way and send no more. He said, Lest something worse happen. Now, now, bro, he ain't saying that God's gonna be after you about that. He was like, just send opens the door to stuff, like this. They were able to bring you and snatch you because you were committing adultery. If you weren't doing that, then They couldn't have caught you in that and and brought you an accusation against you. But notice what Jesus didn't do. He did not have an altar call for her sin. He told her, Go your way. Girl, go on on about your business. Go on. And he without sin, and he was without sin. And he was without sin and did not cast a stone at her. He's like, I don't accuse you. No. I don't why?

SPEAKER_03

Because he came to set the cappers free, bro. That's why I like hearing uh those stories like I think um Taylor Welsh is like he had a dream, and Jesus kept on saying, I don't, I don't condemn you. I don't condemn you. That's right. I don't condemn you. I don't and um that resonated. Of course, I mean that's that's all you need to hear.

SPEAKER_02

Paul said, What that's why I said, We're the us, the new covenant believers, we're the prophetic people of promise, we're the ones that God promised were gonna come. David said, Look, bless is the man that God does not impute iniquity. He said, To the ones that he behold no guile in. Paul said, That's you, that's us, because of what Christ did. Heaven looks at us, man, through the blood of Jesus, bro. It's it's finished. When he said it's finished, it's really, it really is.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, man, but church is so full of legalism, man.

SPEAKER_02

Oh my god. Oh, speaking of that, man. Okay, speaking of that. No, man, I'm I'm serious.

SPEAKER_03

Man, I know man, I get man, dude. I feel like shadow box right there when I hear the yellow radio, yo, oh, you just don't know. All right, go ahead.

SPEAKER_02

That's bringing in the L the L L. That's right. Well, anyway, uh, dude, he speaking of the temple, and everybody like like because today, Sunday, I mean, millions are around the world going to the temple. Jesus literally said when he was talking to the woman at the well, she said, Well, you know, our fathers say that we're supposed to worship in this mountain, and the Jews say, because he's talking to a Samaritan woman, he's like, and the Jews say you're supposed to go worship in Jerusalem. Jesus said, Woman, I'm telling you, the day is coming, and now is here that you will neither worship God in this mountain nor at Jerusalem. But you, but they that worship God is gonna worship him in spirit and in truth. For God is spirit, and they that worship him must worship him in spirit and in truth. Bruh, that was game over right then. When you start talking about where do we go to worship God? You need to come to my church, you need to come to my church, you need to come to my church, you gonna be a church, you're gonna be now. I am the church. I'm the I cannot be at when I be the church. God lived, does God live in you? He's didn't he say he don't live in a temple that is not built with hands, bro? Yes, he couldn't wait to get out of the he it said he ripped the veil from top to bottom to come out of the holy holies after Christ sacrificed himself on the cross. God couldn't wait to get out of being limited like that.

SPEAKER_03

He also said he destroyed this temple and in three days out.

SPEAKER_04

Man, what come on?

SPEAKER_02

They were so pissed. They would that was black. They was like, We need to kill him now, sugar. Yeah, we we need to kill him now.

SPEAKER_03

What are you talking about? It's it's taking us 46 years to build this this temple, and you're gonna raise it up in three days, three days, bro?

SPEAKER_02

Who you think you are? Who you think you got? Chelsea Clinton, yeah. He was talking about his body, yes, the the true temple, the true temple of God, bro. And now he's raised us all up so that we all are the temples of God. And then the Paul said, Know ye not that your body is the temple of the Holy Spirit, bro. Do you not know that? Well, it's kind of hard to know it when I keep me and told you know it's it's at this this edifice that's been tagged a religious uh space, you know.

SPEAKER_03

So traditions a man, the box church, but you know what, Jay?

SPEAKER_04

You mentioned the temple, and you know what that takes us to the health temple, there it is.

SPEAKER_03

Yes, you can connect Jalen Durham, boom.

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There it is.

Processed Cereal And Better Options

SPEAKER_03

I was like, I love it. All right, last week, cook us up, cook us up. Last week we talked about the dirty dozen. So now I'm gonna talk about the ones that these fruits and vegetables can withstand pesticides because of their thick skin and how they're grown. So these so these fruits and vegetables I'm about to name, they don't have to be organic because they're naturally strong, tough skinned, okay. So okay, all right. My favorite, my favorite in your least avocado. All right, I be eating I mean, I'll be eating avocado sandwiches, man. You do, man.

SPEAKER_02

It's just the texture of it. I get it, man.

SPEAKER_03

Uh no, I know it. That's that's the that's that's what people are like. That's what's polarizing. It's the texture, you know. It is, right? Um, but yeah, I put some I put some nature season on there, tomatoes, lettuce, and I, you know, because it almost close to mayonnaise, I don't use mayonnaise, so I use okay. I use mustard, mustard.

SPEAKER_02

So okay.

SPEAKER_03

Give it that, give it that tart, that twang.

SPEAKER_02

I have an avocado sandwich.

SPEAKER_03

With some chips, man, and some juice. I mean, you make it sound good.

SPEAKER_04

I'm taking care of taking care of the tip of the tip of dog. Holy spears, like, thank you, man. Right, this is good stuff.

SPEAKER_03

All right, good stuff. Okay, uh, asparagus.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, I love asparagus.

SPEAKER_03

Asparagus spears. Remember and boomerang. Right.

SPEAKER_02

Why they got they tips when they talk to everybody else. Well, that's us, they're asparagus.

SPEAKER_04

All right, carrots. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_03

I rock with carrots, okay. One of my favorite fruit, talked about this several times on the podcast. Watermelon.

SPEAKER_02

Watermelon, okay. Oh, yeah. Okay.

SPEAKER_03

Cabbage.

SPEAKER_02

Cabbage, wow.

SPEAKER_03

Uh honeydew. Okay. Kiwi, which I had last week. Uh man, I ate Kiwi almost every day last week.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, for real. Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, we uh, man, we be going, we hit, we be hitting the church, we be hitting the uh on the free food, what they call it, the pantry. We be hitting the pantry. Oh, the pantry. Okay, okay. We be hitting the storehouse, though. We be hitting the street. There you go. There you go. There you go. Hey, uh hey, go to the storehouse, people. Go to the storehouse. The actual storehouse, okay. Uh yeah, mangoes, mushrooms, which my my wife is gonna prepare a dish today, a mushroom dish. Really? Yes, mushrooms, man.

SPEAKER_02

So mushrooms kind of got a a soft outside.

SPEAKER_03

I know, man, but it is but it's resistant. Resistant to the pesticides. Wow, okay, okay. That's dope. I love mushrooms too. Yeah, papaya. Okay, okay, uh, onions.

SPEAKER_02

Onions, okay. I can you can I can you can mess me with the onions? Yeah, onions are strong, period. Now, is onions is onions considered a fruit? No, it's a vegetable. It's a vegetable, okay, okay. You giving us the fruit and vegetable tip. Okay, gotcha. Oh, yeah, say cabbage.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, uh, pineapple.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, yeah, that's what's up.

SPEAKER_03

Sweet, sweet corn. Sweet corn. The last the last three is sweet. Sweet corn, sweet pea, and sweet potato.

SPEAKER_02

Oh, no, that's what's up. Now wait a minute. Okay, I know in sweet potato in his in his in his original form, not the not the candied yam. No, that's hey no, that's going down in about three weeks, though. Oh brother, I'm sorry. I'm gonna be there with that eggs. I'm gonna be there with that. I gotta get show as Martin said, how do I get to the yam stuff?

SPEAKER_04

Yes, is funny, man. You need 80.

SPEAKER_03

You need strong, you need strong cords for the yams, man.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, it's so many different yeah, dog. Like, see, they just unhoul me. The gospel twins are just unhouled.

SPEAKER_03

We don't condemn ourselves.

SPEAKER_02

No, we don't, man. We look at that fun.

SPEAKER_03

We don't live in this space, man.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, we don't. We hit we hit it and quit it. No, no, no, no, no, we're saying four feet.

SPEAKER_04

Now you take it to six, dog.

SPEAKER_03

Okay, but I do want to talk about this before we burst burst up. That's me and me. Right, there we go. Yeah, I wouldn't say bust say burst. Okay, uh I've been craving cold cereal because cold, you know, cold cereal is one of the worst things you eat because it's a highly processed food. Okay, so I did my research. What's cold cereal that a brother can eat? Yeah, yeah. It's called it's a company called Seven Sundays, man. Oh, wow. Have you heard have you heard of Seven Sundays, man? It's one of those cereals that come in a bag, bro. Oh wow, and um bags about eight dollars, man. We're talking about eight dollars eight dollars for eight ounces, man. Are you serious? You might get like on a like a an adult size bowl, you might get two and a half bowls if you eat, but I think what they're doing is you're getting the cereal that you can't eat if you're gonna eat cold cereal, but also it's kind of deterring you from not eating it all the time.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, every day. You ain't gonna have this every day, yeah.

Plant-Based Pitfalls And Gut Health

SPEAKER_03

So this nutritionist said he don't eat it for breakfast, he eat it as a uh a snack. Okay, and so Seven Sundays is made out of sunflower, bro. Really? Yeah, and so they got uh wow, and I bought the bag, I bought the real cocoa, cocoa, as they made it.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

Uh, so check this out, ingredients through cassava, uh, sunflower protein, dates, coconut oil, cocoa powder, coconut sugar, vanilla extract, and sea salt. That's all it's in it. Oh, wow, wow. I had me two balls last night, and we're talking about five grams of sugar with only one gram of added sugar.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, wow, yeah, that's that's crazy, man.

SPEAKER_03

Uh what I would tell you, it tastes like sunflowers and dude. That milk was not penetrating that stereo.

SPEAKER_02

It wasn't ring, it wasn't breaking it down.

SPEAKER_03

It was crunchy, but this right here though, because it got the uh real cocoa, it turned oh, it turned the milk chocolate. So that was a good thing.

SPEAKER_02

But um, it's not it was what milk you drank with it? Almond?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, almond milk. I get the vanilla uh uh organic almond vanilla, vanilla, okay and stuff. But because it wasn't that sweet, I had to add some agave to it. That's when I sweetened my stuff with agave or honey.

SPEAKER_02

Okay, okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

I ate me two bowls of that, brother.

SPEAKER_02

That's what's up, man. Well, that was your whole pack right there. Yeah, I got that was your eight bells. Yeah, I got one bowl left, dog.

SPEAKER_03

I might eat that today, man. Okay, okay.

SPEAKER_02

So it was a weekend thing, the weekend treat. It's a weekend treat. Okay, I got you.

SPEAKER_03

Seven, but they had uh different other flavors. They had one that was um uh I can't remember honey, something, whatever, but it was I looked at the sugar content, it was a lot higher, and it had more added sugar, and I try to avoid the added sugar, but it's sure, but it's better, it's a better option for you than this.

SPEAKER_02

Obvious, man. Yeah, that's better than the 36 grand that you normally normally or even better eating Cheerios, man.

SPEAKER_03

That stuff is like a lot of this. I thought Cheerios is good for your heart, man.

SPEAKER_02

That's that's the selling point, but it's not man good for your heart, but it's tearing your pancreas, yeah.

SPEAKER_03

None of that stuff just like it's so inflammatory to your gut, and you know, your gut is so essential to your whole function in your body. People say the brain, the heart, man, your gut. You go as far as your gut goes.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, and uh, yeah, that's can that's that's condemning to me. No, I'm just kidding. There is no condemnation in Christ, there's no god, but there are consequences, so you know, no condemnation, but there are consequences, people. So yes, and one more thing, man.

SPEAKER_03

Halloween that went through. We had turned all the lights off. You know, I got two dogs, I didn't want them to be annoyed and irritated, right? Close the blinds, cut the lights off, man. They still was like dog, check a treat, I was like, no candy, man. And then oh man, it's poor uh blessing, autistic child, like candy, candy. I'm like, I know I felt bad, like man. Oh I got me some seven Sunday cereal, man.

SPEAKER_04

I hook you up.

SPEAKER_03

Hey, think about that name. I wonder if that why is it called Seven Sundays, man? I don't know, man.

SPEAKER_02

You have to look that up, dude. Yeah, man.

SPEAKER_03

Some of these products be having uh other meetings, you know. Uh I had to Dr. Bronner, man. I had to like he, you know, he's into some other crap, man. And he has like clean, his he has the cleanest soap out there on the market, but he worshiping some crap, man. He has some man. I like I looked at that stuff. First, you know, Jim brought it, my wife brought it to my t. And I was like, No, man, you know, stronger than me was in this in the world. Okay, right. But I don't want to fund this dude if that's what he pushing.

SPEAKER_02

Right, if this is what you're doing, if this is what he's pushing.

SPEAKER_03

So I looked at the I I saw a video on TikTok and I was like, Man, let me go check this stuff. That label, I was like, Oh my god. So I ripped the label off, and I'm like, This is the last product I purchased from this guy. Wow, because yeah, wow, yeah, he was so smart.

SPEAKER_02

Why can't people just do it the right way?

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, just sell your stuff, man. But I guess but I guess he's some type of some type of minister. He wants to get his breakfast out.

SPEAKER_02

You know, yeah, they probably like why y'all always sell a t-shirt. Well, I just gotta always add Jesus off. Yeah, you know, yeah. So anyway, anyway, duh. All right, man. Appreciate those that tip, man. Look, get get that gut healthy. I'm working on it, bro. Lord knows I'm working on it.

SPEAKER_03

Oh, speaking of that, yeah, go ahead, man. Go ahead. No, that was it.

SPEAKER_02

I'm working on it, bro.

SPEAKER_03

Go ahead, and I had regressed a little because I try to stay people who want to become vegan and vegetables vegan or vegetarian. Uh a lot of that plant-based meat is terrible because it got the soy protein, all a lot of that, and those oils, those rancid oils that's so inflammatory that wow get your stomach all messed up. And so I regress and I grabbed me, I grabbed me a few products that had the soy protein, and I am so bloated. You know, my stomach was on the clock, man. And like every time I'm eating, I had to relieve myself, and now it's like I was like, man, what happened to my body? I feel complicated, man. It was that uh plant-based meat that I was consuming. Wow. So I tried to uh I just finished that last of that, man. I was like, I'm gonna eat it though, but I'm right, right, I'm not gonna work for sure, for sure. But I finished it, so now there's a lot of plant-based that that's made out of jackfruit. You know, you you know, you look for ones that's made out of jackfruit, uh nuts, or mushrooms. So that's yeah. So I'm getting back on that and get my stomach back in order, man, because my stomach was tripping.

SPEAKER_02

Wow, wow. But that's so dope, man, that you got it so uh on on lock, man, that you can tell right away when something ain't right.

SPEAKER_03

Oh man, man, my body to this point where if I eat something and give me about 20 minutes, I'm going to the bathroom.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, that's what's up, man.

SPEAKER_03

Yeah, and um, I need to get back to that because uh I was I was like, man, I just feel so bloated and like yeah and packed up.

Closing Blessing And Sign-Off

SPEAKER_02

That's crazy, man. That's crazy. And I mean how dope that the Lord make the body, you know, but man, letting you know, hey, something off, bro. Yeah, something off. That's what's up, man. Love it, dude. Love it, dude.

SPEAKER_03

All right, guys.

SPEAKER_02

All right, get you an extra hour today. Yeah, man. You're gonna go ahead and enjoy that, though. Yes, sir. Yep, man. Appreciate you, man. All right, man. All right, people of God. We love you. We love you. Peace.

SPEAKER_00

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