The Gospel Twins Podcast
A podcast that brings the freedom and truth of God's Kingdom to the masses.
The Gospel Twins Podcast
What Changes If You Already Have Authority?
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In this episode we make a hard turn into spiritual formation and the stories we tell ourselves. “I’m not there yet” sounds humble, but it can become the perfect excuse to stay reactive, offended, and stuck. We dig into spiritual warfare, generational patterns, and the big question: are you being personally targeted, or are you being shaped by a system that learns your attention? We connect it to something everyone understands now: algorithms. What you feed grows. What you stare at multiplies. The fight gets very practical when we bring it back to strongholds, thought patterns, and renewing the mind.
We also challenge box church culture that runs on fear, performance, and hierarchy. If you grew up around constant altar calls, “God is mad at you” energy, or money pressure built on out-of-context scripture, we name it and explain why it messes with confidence and identity. The goal is not to bash church, but to point back to the Kingdom, authority, and the freedom of knowing who you are in Christ and who Christ is in you. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs it, and leave a review. What belief are you ready to unlearn?
Giving Mom Space Without Guilt
SPEAKER_05What up, dude? What's up, man? You man, as I say, if I had your hand, bruh, I throw mine in. What's up, dude?
SPEAKER_01Oh man, this is crazy week.
SPEAKER_05Damn, man. It has been man. What what what what hit your week off, man?
SPEAKER_01Moms, man. I had to give moms a break. Oh, she uh yeah, she was she felt I was a little overbearing, man. So I just gave her I gave her some space.
SPEAKER_05So okay. Okay. You starred her out this week. Yeah. Okay.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because my brother hit me up and told me what she said to him. I was like, oh, oh, is it like that? Okay, bro. Let me back on that. Yeah, let me pull back just tag.
SPEAKER_05Um, that's hey bro, that's moms, though. You know, yeah, you don't be in there for moms, bro.
SPEAKER_01You know, I'm just like, you know, like I'm the only one. I know I had a my brother and I kind of had a little back and forth, man. Not a little back and forth. I just hear you. I said something a certain way, and he received it a certain way, and then he he let me know, like, no, it ain't like that, man. So, you know, so I was like, yeah, I was in my feelings at the time. Yeah, yeah. Um, you know, mom. Yeah, she's back in the hospital, and I just yeah, so I just be feeling the weight of that, man. And I just be feeling the weight of that, and and I just feel like sometimes like it's all on me. And then like with moms, we I'm doing trying to do the best for her. And when she be pushing, when she pushes back, it just gets to me. And then what's the point? Not only she pushed back, she gives get it pushed back with attitude and and some cuss words.
SPEAKER_02Oh, oh, okay.
SPEAKER_05All right, my bad. Okay, well, let me back up off the cup and let me take my taste. Yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, I feel that, man. I just feel that family, bro. Family.
Holiday Invites And Family Limits
SPEAKER_01And speaking of family, and it's like my mother-in-law, she just uh lately, she been wanting everybody over for every holiday.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, for sure.
SPEAKER_01Every, you know, it's not the you know, the big ones, it's everyone. So right, right.
SPEAKER_05So when people start uh, you know, either go is she want to come up and have you over for Juneteenth? No. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Sorry. See nobody come out you like your people, man.
SPEAKER_01Hey, I ain't gonna lie, I needed that, bro. But but the thing is like people are like uh ghosts are backing out. It's like man, because people got families, man. Like, and we respect you know my dukes, and you know, uh gotta give you bad respect, but hey man, every time you call them, everybody gonna just be running.
SPEAKER_05You gotta be all right with that, right?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, for real. Like it's and it's a holiday weekend. People might want to bust up, and you know, and that was the deal. That's that's fine. You know, some people you know went camping and some other stuff, yeah. You know, people ain't sitting around trying to wait to see what the plans are. You know, you know me on certain days, I shut it all the way down. Absolutely, for sure. That was yesterday. I shut it down, though. I actually spent my I spent my day uh podcasting.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's what I was gonna say. Sorry, it's your podcast day, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, so that's what I did, man.
SPEAKER_05For the disco hig show.
SPEAKER_01That's what's up, man. Yeah, yeah. How about how about
Two Years Building A New Home
SPEAKER_01you, man? What's up with you?
SPEAKER_05Oh man, it it was it was hectic because you know, you know, bro, we've been you've been down since the beginning. We've been building this house, man, for you know, two years, you know, from the from the finding the plot the property, clearing the trees, and building the crib, man. It's been a two-year process. And uh we in the last probably last three, three weeks, four at the most, man.
SPEAKER_00That's nice.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we're gonna be in there, dude. So now the builders, man, they it's like every they at this point, they like, okay, now y'all need to go over there every day to see what's going on. So, you know, if it's something that you want changed or, you know, something that you catching or seeing, because now these trades, they're wrapping up. So when they go, they go, you know, they on to the next project. So yeah, so it's been that, man. And we gotta walk through and kind of look everywhere. And yeah, so it's been that, man. So it's a blessing, no doubt, but it it's it's still a lot to it, man. Just all those little details, too. So yeah, been doing that, and uh didn't little stuff, man, going on. Like you said, we've been family, bro. Man, been having different conversations, man, with
The Crutch Of Not There Yet
SPEAKER_05um, you know, my sisters about different things, man. And uh, as we all are at various stages of our journey, you know, uh spiritual and otherwise. And uh, man, it's just the conversations though, man, that that we get into, it's just you always trip when I say that, but it the low-hanging fruit of the conversation is just, dude, it's like, why are we even still having these kinds of conversations, man? You know, with you know, people saying stuff that's making you upset and folk falling out over stupid things, man. You know, and and my wife always says, well, John, it it matters to people that's going through that stuff. And I do, and I understand that. I'm like, but man, at some point, you know, this this this I'm not there yet stuff, man, that just that's so whitewashed, bro. That is so white. You know, I'm not there yet. I'm a work in progress. Well, doggone it, man. When you gonna, you know, yeah. When's the there has to be a point when it the building is over, man. We just talking about them getting a crib. Yeah, it took two years, but it's it's finishing up in the next few weeks, bro. So at some point, but here's the thing the house will be built, but we'll be living in it. So we're still gonna have our experiences and have things going on, but at some point, the crib gotta be built, and you just gotta live. That I ain't there yet. At some point, man, nobody is on an eternal journey. Now we'll be having experiences and adventures forever, but there's gotta be a point, man, that Jesus said we see it here in heavenly places now. This is where we at now, bro. That's not where we're trying to get to. That's where we at right now, you know what I mean? Now, where we experience things from from this location is very different. That's a whole different set, but it I'm not still talking about I'm trying to get there, you know. So at some point, man, your character gotta be locked in. I just this just ain't gonna piss me off. This kind of stuff just don't bother me, you know. Yeah, you know, lock that down, dude.
SPEAKER_01That's that that saying is an easy crutch, and I know people use it a lot, man. And um, and and you're gonna keep experiencing that test until you pass it.
SPEAKER_05It's gonna happen, right?
SPEAKER_01You know, I just I just had a conversation with my wife, and I was like, man, you I said you seriously going through a test, man. You know, you gotta eventually you gotta pass it. Correct. So you get uh get over it, and then wanna be but I was listening. Did you that video I sent you?
SPEAKER_00Which one?
SPEAKER_01Taylor Welsh. Did you did you check it out?
SPEAKER_05Oh yeah, yeah. I didn't get through the whole podcast. Okay, okay. Yeah, but I got through most of it, but no, but go ahead, go ahead.
SPEAKER_01I'm trying to remember if it was because I've I've seen I don't know if it's that video, but I was just recently uh now you sent me the whole podcast.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, yeah. So that's what I was listening to. But you were talking about you talking about a part in particular. Is it when you made that statement?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, because he know he talked about you know, he went back to the rapture. I mean, the guy was saying so much incredible stuff. I was invested. I mean, because I was just I was just gonna just stop on it and maybe watch just for a hot second and then come back to it. I end up watching the whole thing because it was so interesting, yeah. And I was I was a hundred percent in, and then when he got back to when he got to the rapture and the tower and uh and the enterprise, uh that's when I was like, man. Oh man.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, that's my man, John Brevere, man. He's dude, yeah. He oh, that's my dude. I mean, I bought a book, man. I mean, he didn't write he didn't wrote tons of books, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, he talked about that.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, but he had a book called Killing Kryptonite, and I had to get it, you know, because Superman, that's my man. So you made that reference. I'm like, oh snap, what are he gonna talk about in this book? But but yeah, you said go ahead. I didn't mean to
Do Demons Study Your Weakness
SPEAKER_05cut you off.
SPEAKER_01But now it wasn't that not necessarily what I was about to say with that, but I was listening to something, and it was talking about not generational curses, but that that the enemy and his minions not only know you, your dad, your grandfather, great-grandfather, no, all that could trip you up, right? And right, right, right. I hear your voice. They could all trip you up, and they know whatever whatever your weakness is, and until you pass that test, you're gonna keep getting it, you're gonna keep getting it. Because it knows knows your weakness. And and so I was like, um, because I was you know, I was thinking about that because I just know some some people just like you were talking about. I just see him just constantly get tripped up over the same thing over and over and over and over. So is that the enemy or the or the or the uh the demons just constantly know whenever you uh get into glory the glory uh when it seen you get into that getting to a nice level, but it's gonna oh okay, I know this is his proclivity, right? Oh yeah, he into porn. So let me let me uh randomly let him come across this picture. Like, oh no, he tripped up. Ah, I got him. All right, I'm straight now. Dude, go there. No, that's it. No, I just want to hear your thoughts on that.
The System That Learns Your Attention
SPEAKER_05Dude, here's the thing, man, with that is, and I got where when my man was coming from, and I get it, man. But here's one thing that that we have to understand as a people is that we procreate, man. We we are it's not nearly as many demonic or or or entities that are against us. Well, first of all, we know it's more for us than against us. It'd be more be with us than be, you know, on the on the negative side. So that's first, that's just out the gate. But secondly, uh, we have been making procreating roles since the beginning. We have long outpaced the enemy and the resources that he has. Now, what he does, so so there's very few people that the enemy actually targets actual uh resources towards as far as putting his little minions or whatever that he that he still has any influence on, because his bro, his kingdom got decimated by Jesus. I mean, literally, and what people need to understand too about the enemy's kingdom, it's just like any other kingdom. Uh, his rebellions go on, it everybody don't ain't feeling Satan that's a part of his kingdom, and he got he got other ones that's been trying to overthrow him within the kingdom of darkness. So, you know, it people gotta understand it ain't all guns and roses over there, you know what I mean? So, so they they their kingdom is is extremely splintered, uh, and it was like I said, decimated by Jesus. So, um, but but was there some salvaging going on? Sure. But what we're up against, most of all, you know, and even you talked about it, you know, on a couple podcasts before, is it's it's the matrix, it's the system that he has set up that's really giving us the business. And and it's and it's more, and especially we should understand it more than any other generation because we understand algorithms, it picks up on what you give your attention to. The longer you pay attention to it, the more the algorithms say, Oh, this is like you said, their proclivities is for this. So, so if you looking at porn, porn gonna start popping up, you know, on your more of it on your feed, because that's what you're feeding, that's what you're giving it, and the algorithm is moving according to you. And it's not necessarily when we're up against stuff, man, that we're going up against straight up entities specifically, more so than it's the algorithms of the system, man. When Jesus, when it says the Son of God was manifest, it said he was manifest that he could destroy the works of the devil, it's the things that he got in place, bruh. You know, the system is what we are fighting against. This is why he said the weapons of our warfare are not carnal, but they're mighty through God, to the pulling down of strongholds, casting down imaginations and every high thing that's all exalting itself against the knowledge of God, bringing every thought captive into the obedience of Christ.
Strongholds And The Renewed Mind
SPEAKER_05Bro, most most of the war we fight is the intern, the internal one, bro. The the mind. The head, yeah. That head, man, this this heart, this this mind. And this is why Paul said, if you look, everybody tell me, I just want to be in God's will. I just not everybody, but the ones who love him, you know, I want to be in his will. I want to do what he he literally tells us, this is how you do it. Don't be conformed to this world, be transformed by the renewing of your mind that you may prove what's the good, except the one perfect will of God. That's how you do it. Just renew your mind, just do the mind work, and you can get and you'll begin to align with the with the perfect will of God. And people gotta stop giving the devil more juice. Then he first of all, don't give him any. He's he's irrelevant, literally. It said Jesus destroyed the one who had the power of that that is the devil, Hebrews 2:14. Jesus destroyed him. Now, destroyed doesn't mean he made him extinct and non-existent, it just means that Jesus made him irrelevant. He has no power, bro. None. Zero. You know, the only thing that he got on you is them strongholds, man. We talking about generational curses. Most of them is generational strongholds that was passed down, man.
SPEAKER_00Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_05That's it's not something coming at you. You know what I mean? It's not a it's not a spirit. People are, oh, the devil was busy. He really wasn't. He really wasn't.
unknownYou know what I mean?
SPEAKER_05His system is active, yeah. But he ain't busy, bro.
SPEAKER_01You know, he he ain't just he got a lot of uh no, he's we didn't make him only present, man.
SPEAKER_05Oh my god, man.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god.
SPEAKER_05It's so irrelevant, it's so irrelevant, man. And it is the thing that that we're caught in is the deception, it's it's the deceiving, man. He makes you think he's got power. He doesn't. The only power he has is the power that he gets from us, dude. He is he's even less relevant today than he was in the garden. God didn't even God just said, hey, bruh, it's the devil out here, man. You need to be on guard, you need to be watching out, you need to be prayed up, stayed up, fasted up, none of that. He was like, dude, everything I got is yours. You can have everything. Just don't eat of that tree in the mid that right there. It's the tree of the knowledge of good and evil. And the day you do, you're gonna die, bro. Don't do it. You got one job. Just don't, just don't take in no other knowledge than the knowledge I'm giving you. And that's it. You lock the enemy outside of your life by not even giving him relevance, bro. But when you open up and listen to the stuff he's saying and do the stuff that he's he's tempting and lying to you to do, that's what opens up. And what was the first thing that when the Lord said, Where you at? Man, he was like, I heard your voice coming, and I was scared, and I hid myself in the garden. Why? Because I was naked. He said, Who told you that? That was the only thing that God talked about is like, oh my goodness, man, you know, you done ate of that tree, and now you're taking in other knowledge. Then you've been naked, bro. You've been naked. I never said anything about, I never exposed your nakedness as a problem. But now what you already was is now become an issue in your life because of what? Because of what somebody else told you, and it made you start hiding from me, you know. You start now, I've become your enemy. Yeah, this is this that's crazy work, man. And and and it hasn't changed. And what is the one thing that the Lord said? My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. Lack of knowledge. Not because the devil's busy, not because he's strong, not because he's scary or whatever, or not because he wants to kill you, even though that's that's the mission to still kill and destroy. But he said, but because you have no knowledge, and it's not because it's not available, it's because you reject it. I give it to you and you reject it. And so I'm gonna reject you and I'm gonna reject your children. And people hear that. See, God gonna be scandalous to me because no, that is he's letting you know the way I've created things to work, it's gonna be a problem for you because you are not listening to my knowledge. Dude, we understand. Give somebody something to take home. A manufacturer say, take this home, do this, read the instructions, and you'll be like, Man, I'll just throw the instructions away. I just want to, I just want this. And you ain't gonna listen to what the manufacturer tells you how to operate the thing, right? Right, why it ain't working? It's it said, keep it in a cool place, bro. You got it right there in the window where the sun is beating in. Well, that don't make no sense. I bruh, I don't care what it makes sense to you, it's not made to operate when it's reach a certain temperature. Keep it in a cool place, bruh. You know, just you don't even have to pray about that. And that's what we do. We leaving the we leaving the iPhone on the windowsill, you know, and it's getting overheated, and we praying to God about it not working. Stuff as much stuff we think need, but I need to pray about no, bruh. You really don't need to pray about that. You just need to, you just need to do what you need to do concerning that.
SPEAKER_01That's so problematic. And and man, thousands of church will be teaching principles on the stuff that we're talking about. I mean, not teaching the what we're talking about, not doing it, right? Not doing it, but teaching the teaching the opposite of what we're talking against.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_01Uh sin and and the devil's busy. You know, you know, like I I was about to say something else.
SPEAKER_05Um say it.
SPEAKER_01Oh no, it's just it's I'd be sidetracking. Oh, okay. Okay.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, bro. It's it's it's man, it's do we we teach to be, you know, of one mind. One spirit, one love. That's we we teach that, you know, as being together, as being the gospel twins. That's teaching how to how to move through life. So he literally says, in the multitude of counsel, there is safety. But you got to be getting your counsel from somebody who gets their counsel from him that's preaching, that's preaching, not preaching as a sermon, but proclaiming what bro. Proclaiming just means I'm gonna claim something that's gonna show you how to get what you desire to have ahead of time. I'm giving you the information that gives you the ability that I already have this because of the claim I'm making. I'm stating my claim according to this predetermined wisdom, and I already know the outcome. That's a proclamation. I'm teaching you how to claim it before you even got it in your hand, and because it's coming. And what does Jesus teach? Like, man, whatever you desire when you pray, believe you receive it, you're gonna have it. He was like, Because this is how you were created, but gotta remove the unbelief and the doubt, bro. And if you got that, that's gonna ruin everything. And if you got unforgiveness, why? Because unforgiveness is a blessing blocker, bro. You know what I mean? It's when we look at the things and see this is what religion does to you. God's like, this ain't religion, bro. This is how it works. These are these are scientific maneuvers or ways that God has set the system up to work. Satan got a way that he set the system up for it for his system to work. God got a way that his system. Satan imitates God, by the way. He he done a creator, bro. It said that he all the wisdom he ever had was in him from the moment he created. He was created. He didn't have capacity to know more than he was perfect. So take that for whatever you want to take it for. But all the wisdom he had, he had. And the scriptures say, and he was full of it. He was full of wisdom, bro. Because he was set up to be um, for lack of a better term, a mentor for the coming kid. He he was, man, they were regents, bro. They sat on the thrones until we got there. It's just like people that's just running something for you for the company until the children, the ones who are gonna take over the company is ready to take it over. And they show you how to do it. This is the operations, this is what we do, this is how it works, and this and this and that and that. And they were the angelic beings of that class in order. That's what their job was, bro. To teach us, to guard us during this process. And he rebelled against that. He he wanted to have eternally what he was temporarily given to Stuart until we got there. And this is what this whole thing is about, bro. Is I want to kill the kids. You know what I mean? I can't, I can't, I can't do nothing against the dad, so I want to kill the family. You know what I mean? It's not even, it's not hard, bro. And I want to kill the kids so I can one day, you know, it'll be mine. If I get rid of everybody, Jesus literally told this this parable. He said they the father sent different servants, people to minister the truth to the people and let them know that this is, you know, this is how the kingdom should be ran and said, you know what, they killed all of them. I'm gonna send my son. And he's gonna show everybody. Well, they killed him too, you know. And is that the thought was like, oh, if we kill the son, we killed the air, it'll be ours, bro. Jesus literally tells the story. This is how this is how this world system is thinking. Get rid of the heirs, and we can have it. Just don't work like that.
SPEAKER_01All right, throughout history, man. Moses, all of that, man.
SPEAKER_05Absolutely, absolutely. It's this is literally, people read the Bible, oh, is that religious? It's a history book, bro. It's a history book that shows us how God interacted, interacts with mankind, his intentions, and his predeterminations, how things. It's a history book with everything in it. Everything. Science, you know, relationships, just everything that we experience and encounters. It's in there, man. It's in there.
Church Lifers Still Living In Lack
SPEAKER_01Uh before we we uh before we get up out of here, I wanted you I wanted you to address what you we talked about earlier about people that live their whole life in church, but still not understanding what's going on.
SPEAKER_05Oh man, that dude. Can't touch on that. Yeah, man. That that that's probably the the worst scenario, dude. Um I'm I'm not. My compassion, I do have compassion for, of course, for everyone. Um I just told my daughter yesterday, my baseline when I look at people, I it's not their ethnicity, it's not their gender. My baseline is that this is a person that's made in God's image and likeness, and I have, and everything has to stem from that. And and I said, so so I just have compassion for anyone uh that is not experiencing what the father desires them to experience, man. But my heart, bro, for the household of faith, those who are already fully aware of, you know, the the father's love and place their faith in the kingdom and and you know, in our Lord Jesus, man, and then live like they don't, you know, like they don't know it. Yeah, and uh man, I I'm you know, man, I don't want to bring up nobody then the name, but anyway, man, the person, they they love God, bro. Uh it's undeniable. I mean, been in church all their life, you know, all of my that I know, you know, never quote unquote backslid, never left the church, never fell out with God, never, you know, as far as externally was always in church. That's their life, literally, all their friends, the everything is in church. But man, having the issues that they're encountering, uh, the lack that they're experiencing, the just the just the daily provisions and stuff is is a problem. You know, it's like you you gotta scrap. And it's and it's not like it's not like the person um is, you know, that it destroys their you know, their their their feeling for God or anything, not at all. They they still cling to the the love and and you know, and God is pr providing, but that re but telling yourself that narrative when you don't even have you just got your basic needs, just basics, you know, and and and I'm thankful for that. And and I get that, but that is not what the fat the father does didn't come. Jesus said, I come that you have life and have it more abundant, you know, and for Jesus to say abundant life, that's that's not like one of us saying it because we put so many superlatives on stuff, man. Oh man, like I'll be there at three o'clock tomorrow. Oh, that's awesome, man. That's no, that's not awesome that you're gonna be there at three o'clock, bro. There's nothing awesome about that, you know. Like, oh man, so what's your order? I'll take that and I'll take this. Oh, awesome, awesome. No, that's not awesome. You know, that's not awesome. So we we use them kind of words, super califragilistic, as be alladocious to put it, and God will just look at it and say, Man, now it was good, bro. And then when God looks at something like really over the top, he'd be like, Oh no, that was very good. You know, it's it's he doesn't do the things that we do. So if Jesus says, I come that you have life more abundant, this is God talking, bro, saying abundant, then what is he really talking about? The one that could do exceedingly abundantly above all that you asked to think. Meaning, man, he wants to lavish us in his goodness, man. Because that's what leads people to change their mind. The goodness of God leads men to repent.
SPEAKER_01Well, maybe it's not my maybe it's not their season, man.
SPEAKER_05Man, oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Oh my god.
Box Church Versus Ecclesia Family
SPEAKER_01But when you said church, can't we we we have to start changing these words, man? We gotta save the box church and the equity ecclesia.
SPEAKER_05Right, right.
SPEAKER_01Because ecclesia is not synonymous. No, it is not, it is not like just like religion in the kingdom. All right, let's do it.
SPEAKER_05They are not, yeah. You're right. We do have to put distinctions to it because we do, we lump it all in the same gumbo pot. But yeah, so the box church, you know, is most people there's one that she's been a part of that all her life. But um, but you know, that's the religious stuff that comes up because that's all you're being taught is religious stuff, you know, and do these check these boxes. And I went to church, I gotta go, I gotta give, I gotta be. And anytime you start a sentence off with the five when you're talking about being in the family of God with the I gotta, then you already know your your heart is already exposing your your posture towards towards the father. And you know, I have to, I got to. And it and it's I am, I just am. If I go to be with the the the worship of of the community of believers, my family today, then I chose to do that. If I don't, I chose not to, and there is no condemnation on there's no condemnation against any of it, and there's no celebration for it. God doesn't celebrate you because you went to the box church this morning or the gathering, you know, of the saints. He don't celebrate that.
SPEAKER_01That's a check mark, man.
SPEAKER_05No, you know, yeah, it's for us, yeah. The checkbox, we've it make us feel good about ours. It's warm and fuzzy for us, bro. But but in the kingdom, god the angels is looking like bruh, I I just bro, I'm here to I'm here to rock with you where you go. So what we doing, you know, whether you you go into the cathedral or see the point, I, you know, bruh, it doesn't make me no difference, you know, and that's the mentality we have to have. But when you've been a part of that all your life, dude, and you're hearing this and you're seeing autocall after autocall, week after week, you can't tell me, I don't care even if you have received Jesus Christ for as your Lord and Savior. You're witnessing this every week that a people are coming for forgiveness of their sins, and it's an autocall happening every single week for 30 years. You've been a part of it. It's no way you can have a confident reality in your relationship with God. This is why people think they can fall out with Him. This is why they think God be mad at them. That's what because you're looking at people that you know, oh, they didn't even respond to the autocall. You can walk out of here today and die and go straight to hell. If you're hearing this, bro, on a regular basis, it's no way you your heart is strong. You you can't be that way. It's impossible for you to behold that week after week. If you're thinking Jesus is forgiving people on a case-by-case basis as they come and respond to the altar call and make a prayer, then that's a problem. That's that's gonna cause, you know, the dissonance that that creates within your heart, man.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I like last uh episode, and I specifically said, I didn't go to the I didn't I didn't answer an altar call to 2014.
SPEAKER_05Right.
SPEAKER_01But my relationship with God has always been there.
SPEAKER_05I mean already had been for right.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, I've all I mean that that situation with my my daughter, her cousin, and all that. I was guided, I was guided through that situation, man.
SPEAKER_05By the spirit the whole time, right?
SPEAKER_01And it wasn't and it wasn't because I went to an altar call and uh to get the sp the special the special pixie dust, you know what I'm saying? It was my relationship, exactly, and and um people just gotta understand like a lot of man God always talks to you, you just don't under you gotta realize what voice it is, and yeah, and I and I just recently learned that maybe six years ago uh to really understand like okay, okay, this this this is from him. Uh but before it just it just voices or or my thoughts, or these these random thoughts. Right, you know, I I would file under that random thoughts, man.
SPEAKER_05But no, no, I'm being guided. Absolutely. 100%. 100%. Bro, there is nothing about us that's random. Nothing.
SPEAKER_01Nothing.
SPEAKER_05Nothing is random when it comes to us, man. Everything is intentional. And the way that the father, it's it's the predetermination is not is not a is not a destination as a place that you get to or arrive to. The predetermination or predestination, should I say, is better, is we're all destined to be the sons and daughters of God. That's our destiny. But that's not a destiny that we're trying to get to no more than it is a destiny for when a woman has the child, and that child is now trying to become a part of the family. Man, the child has been a part of the family from day one. I mean, I'm talking about from the time that before they even knew they was pregnant.
SPEAKER_01Can you imagine that? Trying to earn earn and be in the family. And you gotta earn being in this family. Your mom gave birth, but you gotta earn being in the family.
SPEAKER_05You gotta earn your your status in the family. Oh my god.
SPEAKER_01Pull yourself up by your bootstraps.
SPEAKER_05Oh my God. Dude, it doesn't even make, it don't even make bad sense. It don't even make bad sense. But when it comes to God, though, yeah, the one who set up family, we wouldn't even know what family was if he didn't reveal to us that he made it. So, so this it's just it's asinine, man, that people people are gonna flock into the into the box church today. And they are going to give their their heart and their soul over to not, and I'm not saying everyone, but many. Many many are gonna give their heart and soul over to this message that is is gonna talk about God is getting ready to do something. You're in a season, you're you know, all of these little things, or the devil is busy, or the enemy, he should have killed you when he had the chance. I mean, you're gonna hear all this kind of crazy stuff. And very few, very few are gonna be talking about the kingdom. It's gonna be talking about your righteousness, it's gonna be talking about your royalty. They're not gonna teach you about who you really are in Christ. And if they won't teach you about who you are in Christ, they absolutely ain't gonna teach you about who Christ is in you. Because it's Christ in you that's the hope of glory, bro.
Tithing Claims And Religious Manipulation
SPEAKER_01I would thank God and salute those leaders that when they hear the truth, go and go back to the church just like Pastor Bob. Oh, yeah, yes, and and just change their curriculum. Absolutely.
SPEAKER_05Creflow Dollar did it, man. Yep. For him to do it, bro. Yes, that is Mr. Jet, yep. Yeah, Mr. Prosperity. He would, that's what he's known for, man. His name was Creflo Dollar, bro. I mean, but he went back when he got woke up to the to the message of grace and the reality of the kingdom. And man, he he once had preached a sermon and he talked about it that tithe, tithing was the the covenant connector. He said, Man, what what delusion was I under? Where I said tithing was the covenant connector, not Christ was the covenant connector.
SPEAKER_01That's crazy.
SPEAKER_05Tithing, because we read some scripture in Malachi that wasn't written to us, and it that wasn't even written to us or even for us. Now that now there are things that are written in the scripture, like we always say it wasn't written to us, it was written for us. There are some things in scripture that don't even pertain to us at all. It wasn't written to us, and it ain't for you. Yeah, and that Malachi scripture is one of them, bro.
SPEAKER_01Oh, and it's a huge one.
SPEAKER_05They talking about you rob God and tithes and often no, no, you are robbing God's people with the manipulation of this scripture. That's what you're doing, that's what you're doing, and well, you can't say the tithing was before the law because by the law, because tithing was before the law began, Abraham paid tithes. Read Hebrews, that's new covenant scriptures. It's called Hebrews, bruh. It's called Hebrews. He was writing it to Hebrew. Oh man, see that's dude. That's the that's the stuff right there.
SPEAKER_01I don't know. I people please, man, like, comment, and share this information, this podcast. This this has to get out. And um, I'm scrolling on Instagram and on social media, it might have been TikTok,
Robes Rank And The Hierarchy Trap
SPEAKER_01man. What a no uh I saw a preacher, man. He was all decked out in the nines, man. Had this robe on his stash going from his left shoulder to this to this right waist.
SPEAKER_04I was like, man, look at this dude, man.
SPEAKER_05Like now, who now, how are they dressed? How are they dressed to the nines, man?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, the role, man. Is that what they call it? Slash stash or whatever that thing was.
SPEAKER_05Oh, I know what you're talking about. Yeah, I don't know, the sash or the sash. Dude, you're gonna have to send me that. You're gonna have to find that and send it to me. Cause I gotta see that, man. Cause for what reason? For what reason, bro?
SPEAKER_01That's the hierarchy stuff, man.
SPEAKER_05See, that hierarchy. Oh my god. See, but man, this you gotta be set apart.
SPEAKER_01You gotta be set apart, man. You gotta go.
SPEAKER_05How are the people gonna respect my wisdom if they don't if they don't uh you know see me in an elevated position? Yeah, see, that's that crap, man. It is that's that crap, dude. That literally is what Jesus said, I hate that, I hate that. Jesus backed up all the way to Genesis. He said, I in Revelation, he backs all the way up and references a Genesis figure. He's like, I hate the doctrine of Balaam, which was back in Genesis, and I hate the doctrine of the Nicola Jens, bro. And that is when you lord over the laity, you or you you make the people of God seem like they are inferior, because your your apostolic, prophetic, evangelistic, pastorial, and teaching gifts are to serve the body. It's not to make the bodies serve you, and that's what people do. They they got pastors appreciation day. They when is there I've never seen uh a laity day, you know, or whatever. Oh, I'm sorry, maybe that's the church picnic, you know. Um we all gather together. I'm gonna feed y'all some barbecue and some let y'all know some baked beans and what have you. And we're gonna go out to the park and I'm just gonna feed y'all a little bit and we'll play some games, and and that's the honor. But when it comes to the the hierarchy, when you're honoring the minister of music or honoring the pastors or these people that Sit in these pulpits, these elevated places, then now it's about give the offering, you know, bless the man and woman of God and all of it. Bruh, stop it. Stop it, man. You didn't came under a hierarchy of teaching that was probably passed down to you, more than likely, because you saw it. You grew up in church and you saw it that way, and they did, and they did. And this all stems down from that like you said that hierarchy stuff, man. And the Lord hates that. He literally says, I hate it, dude.
SPEAKER_00Where's your phone? Is your phone nearby?
SPEAKER_05Yeah, it is. I just heard it go off, bro. Let me let me see this. Oh my god. Oh my what is we doing, people
Authority In Two Realms Right Now
SPEAKER_05of God? What is we doing? Distracted totally very, very, and invested in stuff that doesn't mean and matter on the scale of things. We are talking about we live in realms, bro. We are walking simultaneously in two different realms, the spirit realm and the physical realm. And we got authority in both. And we and we're sitting here kyle towing the stuff in the physical, let alone don't know the authority that we have. We don't even know the authority we have here, let alone that we have in the spirit realm. But the ones who got the authority in the spirit realm, oh man, those, you know, the prophets, you know, the apostles, the ministry gifts are the ones, bro. And and and we need them to pray for us, you know. And it's yeah, we we gotta get this right, folks. Yeah, this this this sacredity, this sacred stuff that we got among us, man, it's it's gotta get, it's gotta go. It's gotta go. Because it's stopping us from experiencing the true blessing of of our inheritance as family, bro. Family. I ain't no more son of God than Jesus is no more son of God than you or me, or anybody that's listening to this. He literally tells us that hey bro, stop asking me to do stuff for y'all. The father love you just like he loved me. This is what he came to reveal to us, Father. Now, bless God for Jehovah Jirah and El Shaddai and El Elyon, and you know, all of these names, you know, that that we give to God, he revealed himself in that, but that was what people called him based off of the revelation they had with the experience. They called him El Elyon. He didn't re reveal, he didn't say I'm El Elion.
SPEAKER_01He said, I am, I am, bruh.
SPEAKER_05I am I am now you can come up with anything you Lord, you are the most grandest, oh so magnifical, exceed. Yeah, yeah, okay. True. But guess what? So are you so are you? We all singing songs. You know, God sings too. He likes music, he sings songs, and we all talk about great is his faithfulness. He he wants to sing that to you too. Great is your faithfulness, Lord. I oh man, anyway, I ain't gonna need to start all that back up. So anyway, yeah. Yeah, bro. We just got to, we got to, uh, we gotta get on one accord with this, man. First, we gotta know who we are, and and so to know who God is, who we are, and who each other is, so we can literally be of one mind, one spirit, and one love, man. And when that happens, bro, you heaven happens here. Yes, you don't have to try and get to it. You already see that in heavenly places, man. You know, or wait for a season, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, people gotta remember it's governmental and not religious. Yes, yes, yes, that's a huge, that's huge. This uh just that religious, absolutely.
SPEAKER_05You get that distinction, bro, chain life changing. Well, we know that changed our lives, so there it is, bro. Got something else you want to throw in there?
Stomach Bug Warning And Next Topics
SPEAKER_01Nope. Uh be careful, Mike. You make sure you wash your hands, man. You got this this bug, this stomach bug going around. It got me. Oh man, really? It got me in my mom. I'm heard about that. What? Whoa, oh yeah, bro. That's all on the news and everything. Really? So yeah, uh, my mom got it, I got it. Oh, I've lost my head weight. Really? That you you couldn't have man, it's like dysentery, bro. What man, bro? I've been man, I've been in the bathroom. I know it's TMI. I've been in the bathroom for the last three weeks.
SPEAKER_05Wow.
SPEAKER_01They say it can last up to a month, bruh. I ain't heard nothing about that. And because of my mom's health, you know, some people, some people could just wait it out and just you know, naturally leave your body, but some people need antibiotics. And so my mom need antibiotics like like right away. Uh mine just I haven't I haven't uh have any antibiotics. I'm just letting it just run it to court, let it run its course.
SPEAKER_05Yeah. Well, we're gonna talk about that next week. Yeah, we're gonna talk about some of this stuff next week. Yeah, put a pen in that, bring that up. Yeah, what we talk about with this the the weather Friday with this with we also what about yeah, what about um could we also need to address the male and female friendship?
SPEAKER_01Oh man, yeah, being platonic.
SPEAKER_05Yeah, we're gonna have to get it now. Yeah, we're gonna throw that, we're gonna freestyle all that in next week. All right, make sure we're gonna make notes about that. So tune in to that, people of God. Spread this gospel twins is is here for the good news twins, bro. This is what we're here for. We're here to give you the people of God, the family of God, the good news.
SPEAKER_01There you have it. Let's leave it there, man.
SPEAKER_05We love you, people of God. Peace.