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Convenience Vs Clean Living
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The older we get, the more we realize “easy” is rarely free. We start with a laugh about moving into a new house and the exhaustion of carrying decades of life in boxes, then we slide straight into something heavier: the way convenience culture quietly trains us to hand our health over to corporations that don’t know our names.
We get specific about food label deception, including reports that a huge number of avocado oil products may not be pure even when the bottle says “100%.” From olive oil sourcing to ultra processed foods, we talk about why reading labels still isn’t enough, how brand trust can collapse after buyouts, and what it looks like to reclaim control through whole foods, meal prep, and simple swaps you can actually keep doing. We also touch the rise in recalls and outbreaks and why consumer standards matter more than complaining online.
Then we pivot into theology and technology: why so many people imagine heaven as the final destination, how the Bible points toward resurrection and a renewed earth, and how AI tools like Perplexity can help cut through tradition and gatekeeping while still requiring discernment. From AI-generated imagery to the “AI lied” debate, we break down why AI is a mirror, why the danger is the intent of people using it, and how prompts oddly echo prayer and petitions. We finish with encouragement for anyone battling guilt and condemnation, especially new believers trying to grow under “box church” expectations.
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Moving Day And New House Chaos
SPEAKER_02What up, dude? Yeah, man.
SPEAKER_08What about you?
SPEAKER_02Moving into the new dude. Yes, sir.
SPEAKER_01Man, it's been a it's been a it's been a journey, bruh. It's been a journey, man. And uh we finally we kind of we was actually uh moved in last Saturday, man. So we've been in here a week uh as of yesterday. So yeah, bro, moving in, moving, man, is is more than a notion, dude. Especially when you move in decades of stuff, man.
SPEAKER_02So decades.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, we was over at the other set, man. What almost 25 years, dude?
SPEAKER_08Okay, okay, wow.
SPEAKER_01Yeah, yeah, man. It was uh daughter was six, I think, uh when we moved over there, and she's 31 or whatever, something like that, I think. So my math might be off a little bit, but yeah, yeah, right. Yeah, oh what's up, man? So it's been it's been exhausting, but uh exciting, exhausting, you know, all that, all that together.
SPEAKER_02So bless that, though.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, bless that. All of all I gotta say is that there's no home. You can't on the best way to christen your home, yeah, is uh the member of the Hicks family blow your bathroom up. Smell like booty in here.
SPEAKER_02Now you can use the bathroom with the other end of the spot. We got other house, we only had one. Now we got three of them you can't eat.
SPEAKER_08Oh man, yeah. I'm excited for y'all, though. And I can't wait to come over there and check check out the spot, man.
SPEAKER_01Can't wait to have you over, man. Can't wait to have you over. Appreciate you, dude.
SPEAKER_08That's that's some good stuff. Oh man, you know what?
Avocado Oil Fraud And Label Trust
SPEAKER_08Um what's up? Since we we did this relaunch or rebranding, well, we we call it a relaunch or rebrand? We didn't rebrand, we just relaunched.
SPEAKER_01We didn't rebrand, just yeah, just uh yeah. I say a relaunch or a recalibration.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, recalibrate, okay. Uh, since we did that, I haven't been doing the health tip. So I want to kind of, if you don't mind, let me start off with that today, man. Cause uh, you know, I'm I'm I'm man, Holy Spirit, we was talking yesterday. And and I'm gonna do a video too. I'm gonna do a video about it so I don't know, you know. Um uh UC Davis, man, did uh they did a research on avocado oil products and come to find out 85% of the avocado oil products are aren't using 100% avocado oil. And so man, that upsets me, man, because uh you know I purposely look for that stuff, you know. I talk about reading labels all the time, all the time, and that's what you and that's what you're supposed to. So if you if I read a bottle that says 100% avocado oil, that's what I expect, yeah, you know, and so I get these brand that I get these brands that I trust, and then come to find out these trusted brands are in trustworthy trustworthy anymore. You know, like and so like uh the oil, chosen, chosen is a brand, chosen of all of all names, bro. Chosen. Wow, wow, so chosen brand are being being deceitful out here in these streets, man. So anything is from chosen, not everything, they said that the oil is good, but the potato chips and the avocado and and the mayo, which I do have in my in my refrigerator right now as we speak, I have avocado oil uh mayonnaise. So what I need to do, and what most people need to do is switch over because the two oils that you can't, you know, that's they said it's healthy is avocado oil and olive oil. So to uh maintain integrity and or whatever you want to put in your body, you need to search out uh one source, one one source uh uh olive oil brand. And see, uh, when you get one source of uh olive oil, it comes from another country, and their processing uh processing is a lot stricter than we do have have over here in the States, man. So you can trust you can trust that uh in that in all about profit. So that's what I'm up dealing with right now. And so I was so I was talking to the Holy Spirit. I remember just this upset, man, just saying stuff. And he said, Well, you know, uh what was going on is that you're paying for you're you're paying for convenience is what you're doing, you know. Um and uh he I was like, what? Yeah, you're paying for convenience, you know. You're the air ancestor and the people before you your relatives, they worked and they made stuff from scratch. And it also brought up uh brought in my members of the conversation we had, and I was like, man, uh we need uh what's really killing Americans is the process food. So he was like, Man, how can we get around that? And I was like, You gotta start, you gotta start making your own food and whatever. And so I'm in the process of doing that now. We got the garden and you know, whatever, um whatever things that I need. I'm trying to go the whole food route, go that route and try to, you know, and because you can't trust these, I mean the corporation letting you know that. Okay, we can make it easy for you. You can we got a one-stop shop, you come and grab whatever you need, but just know we're gonna put the ingredients in there that we feel that we should keep this business going, and it's upon you, the consumer, to say, okay, am I gonna go and eat this food, or should I just go and put the time in and make it myself? And because uh I had a conversation with a co-worker, I was talking about juicing, and I gave her a recipe or whatever, and she was like, How much juice is that gonna make? I said about 40 ounces, like, that's not gonna last me a week, and like, no, uh that should last you about three days or maybe a day or two. And she was like, and I'm like, Oh, all that work for that, but yeah, if you want, if you want true, clean, healthy benefits of what you're drinking, yeah. So she's like, I don't know if I want all that. So she decided to get that AG, you heard of um AG1 green. Yeah, okay. Oh yeah, a lot of people are uh preferring doing that, but okay, you could do that, and it's and what a lot of people do say is like, well, it's better than drinking soda, yeah. I mean, you're gonna you're gonna compare it to something that's really bad, yeah. But if you're gonna that AG1 compared to what I'm doing, it's not it's not even on the same level because you do it, it's you know, it's dehydrated, processed greens. So uh, but yeah, when the Holy Spirit's like, man, you know, you you you're paying for convenience, so and so yeah, so uh all right. Well, I'm gonna start just try to get these whole foods and make this stuff at all.
SPEAKER_01So man, that's good, man.
Convenience Culture And Whole Food Choices
SPEAKER_01Um as you always say, man, health is wealth. And uh we can see, man, we we're in a society right now, man, where as like you said, about the person that like, oh wow, that's all that is only gonna make me 40 ounces. That ain't gonna last me all week. Because we, bro, we then got away from being actively involved with our with our well-being, you know. Um, it's like you said, the convenience. I want something I could just, you know, pour and stir. And and that comes from the grind, man. Our mentality is like just man, I I got too many things to do. And really it ain't, man, because you know, people doom scroll for two, three hours a day, dude. You know, so you so you telling me you don't have 30 minutes to prepare your do your meal prep, you know what I mean, for your for your health, for your literal physical health and your well-being. And we can see that, man. And it's it's absolutely it's an indication of where we have gotten as a society. It it shows that where we prioritize things, it's not about, you know, we put our health and our wealth and our well-being in the hands of other people, you know, corporations that we know we don't matter to them. You know, we're just if it can make the money, if it if it don't make dollars, it don't make sense. It's profit over people. We all this stuff. We know this stuff, and we don't actively do what needs to be done and change it. And then when we uh get diagnosed or with something, then we want everybody, you know, send prayers up for me. You know, you know, prayers become our escape hatch, man, instead of our communion, you know, uh, you know, technology that we have that the Father's given us, like you were speaking with Holy Spirit yesterday about this situation. That's that's prayer, you know, being in communion and conversation with the Lord and about the daily things that you need to do to uh, you know, to contribute to your health. Now, God is merciful and he is merciful to our ignorance, uh, not our stupidity. We're not stupid, but we are ignorant from the fact that we ignore the realities of what's going on around us, man. That pee for the most part, man, uh these corporations and stuff do not got our well being at heart, bro.
SPEAKER_08That's why the Holy Spirit was telling me to take it out their hands. I can sit there and go not one, and you know, I'm on Facebook and TikTok and I'm railing against the these companies and all these stores, but um, it's like, well, you don't have to go there, right?
SPEAKER_07Right.
SPEAKER_08Oh wow, I didn't know you want to get involved in the discussion with him. He was on me yesterday. I'm like, okay, you were on your head about it, bro. Oh no, not even not even just that, just man, it's just our communion yesterday was just off the chain. Like, all right, I told you I went to the movies, I'm eating a piece of gum, yeah. And I just threw the rapper on the ground. He just I just and I usually don't do that. He's like, pick that up.
SPEAKER_02I didn't know you wanted to get involved with the discussion, Mr. Helper.
SPEAKER_07Okay, okay, yeah. Pick that up.
SPEAKER_02I love it. Pick that up. I love it.
SPEAKER_08That that's what's but yeah, but he was like, you don't have to eat that, you know. You can rail, you spend all your energy, and I'm gonna I'm gonna keep doing that because that's that's my fight. I feel that's my fight.
SPEAKER_01No doubt, there's nothing wrong with that, yeah.
SPEAKER_08You know, no, but he did let me know. Like you don't have to you don't have to eat that right, right. Because uh, because I I've given up on the chips and the stuff like that. So what I and what I do, people God, what I do when you go to get those potatoes, you know, those really small mini potatoes. Uh I get those, uh I coat those in olive oil, season them up, shake it up in a bag or a container, and then I just put them in air freezer, bro. And there you go.
SPEAKER_01Your own potato chip.
SPEAKER_08There's my potato, you know, they love potato balls. So I just I renewed my mind. So I don't, I'm not eating the chips, they're not crunchy and all that. They are potatoes, and they do get the flavor that I that I uh when I season them with. And so I renew my mind. So I'm not getting the crunchy, or I'm not getting the real crunchy french fry. But what I am getting is whole clean food that has that's that's a uh healthy replacement for that.
SPEAKER_01But it and it takes work for you to do. But I bet you if you cut the mugs up thin, I bet and put them in the air fryer, I bet you they come out chippy like a chip.
SPEAKER_08Oh, oh, oh yeah, yeah. Because I have um I have a potato cutter, so I can do the I can do the crinkle fries, I can do potato chips, I can do ruffle chips. So yeah, there's some there's there's uh potato slices that that cover all that. So that's what you want to do, and that's what and that's what you should do because you can't live you this not the store's responsibility to keep you healthy, but it is the restoration's responsibility in these companies' responsibility. If they're gonna put something on the label, you gotta back that up. Don't be deceived in these people, you know what I'm saying? Because you you charging us a premium for that, you know. Like, all right, you know, you got the you got the matrix, all right. You're gonna absolutely all right. Well, you know, we get we we we we serving you all this poison, but then it's like all right, I want to get I want to raise an above and get out of the matrix. Okay, you you can, but you gotta pay a premium to do so.
Recalls, Deregulation, And Food Safety
SPEAKER_08Man, we right now we're having so many recalls. Right now, it's recall on eggs, bro. Recall on eggs as we speak. Wow, it's because of deregulation, a lot of stuff, and FDA and all that stuff is getting through. So, you know, I I I can speak because I got the cyclos cyclospora uh parasite, and I dealt with that. That's my I lost I lost about 10 pounds, bro. And that's and um and um yeah, people are hesitant to buy lettuce still. Uh when you go to the store, which I spend most of my time in the produce section, uh Drisco strawberries, yeah, still on the shelf, bro. People are people are elected not to even buy it, they don't trust it, man. And then we know Taylor Farms just people are boycotting Taylor Farms, man, because they just mean they uh recall on salsa, dips, guacamole, jalapeno, eggs. It's just so many outbreaks right now, and people are getting sick, and then and and then there's some fatalities, bro. And it's like it's not good. No, it's not. So I got my eye on that, and then I know like a lot of trusted brands I have, uh CATA brand chips and all that. Um, their health as a help. They were a help, they were a health brand. Pepsi bought them, and of course, we in the community say, Oh, Pepsi bought them, please keep an eye on it, please keep an eye on it. Sure enough, about a half a year, a year later, start seeing other ingredients get uh shoehorned into the ingredients list, and then all of a sudden, bam! Then they switching out oils and all this type of thing. Wow, wow, yeah. Shame on you, shame, shame, shame.
SPEAKER_01Again, it shows uh it mirrors the heart of the people, it mirror it mirrors the heart of the people that are in charge, and it mirrors the from them being deceptive and not caring about people and you know, and people's well-being. And it shows the heart of the people not being very diligent as it pertains to holding people accountable, you know. Uh, because the bottom line is this, man. I used to always tell my daughter, you know, it may seem like I'm shifting topics, but I'm not. I used to tell my daughter, women control the standard that men are gonna act at. That's that's just a fact. I don't, I don't care the most chauvinist, ego. I'm putting pages on all you big. If you get women collectively raising a certain standard, I don't care who the guy is, at a certain point, men are going to conform to that standard. So if you if a woman makes a determination, a man is not gonna treat me this way, you're gonna have to respect me, you're gonna have to honor me, you're gonna have to um be attentive towards me, and that's the collective consciousness of women in general. Men are gonna line up, bro. They are gonna line up because women have that power. Uh, and God gave them that, and God bless them for it. Um but that same mentality, if the com if the collective consciousness of the people raise their standard, we're not gonna purchase your product, we're gonna investigate you, we're gonna fact check you, and if you are not uh raising up to the standard of what we demand for ourselves, we're not gonna purchase your product, bro. You ain't gotta threaten nobody. Just stop buying, just just stop buying. And guess what? They will conform, they will confirm. It may not be an immediate thing, but eventually, man, clean, living, clean, eating, clean, bro. It would become the uh yeah, I dropped out. I don't even know where I dropped out at, dude.
SPEAKER_08Oh, and I kept it going. I saw you, so I kept it going. Let me see. Yeah, uh, but yeah, I want to I want to share
Heaven Myths And The New Earth
SPEAKER_08this video. Somebody sent me this video and it took me through a slight rabbit hole about heaven, about heaven, man. Something that needs to be understood about heaven. Okay, but yeah, let me play this video.
SPEAKER_06What will we do in heaven? We will have feasts, all animals will be harmless. We will get to build our dream houses. We will worship all the time. We will know everybody. We will party and have fun. We will experience joy without suffering. There will be no more death, mourning, crying.
SPEAKER_08So this video, it you know, there's certain things that it says and give the scripture back, but you know, the main thing is that you know it's these the the images stop showing this stuff, but he's showing tangible and physical stuff, but uh up into the different realm in heaven. Sorry, so we're building the houses in the in another dimension, we're we're bricking mortar.
SPEAKER_02Right, right, right, right.
SPEAKER_08It said in this video, it said we you know we're gonna be friends with the with with the animals, but then it said we have we have nice food. There was a big old lamb chopped.
SPEAKER_02Oh my god, bro. No, it wasn't right. No, that's it.
SPEAKER_07I said, did you just contradict what you just said? Oh bro.
SPEAKER_02Right.
SPEAKER_08So I went to pers perplexity. I said, why do Christians uh not you know I I I said it to perplexity to use the word Christian, you know. I y'all know I don't like using it. Why do Christians believe the final destination of heaven is heaven and not the earth? And this would uh perplexity said. From what I found, many Christians in modern practice view heaven as a final destination because of a long tradition influenced by Greek philosoph philosophical ideas that separate the soul from the body and emphasize an escape from the material world. Over time, this idea became wild widespread, leading to the belief that after death people go up to heaven permanently. But early Christian and biblical teachings you uh actually emphasize a future resurrection and renew heaven and earth, suggesting that heaven is more like a temporary state and that God's ultimate plan involves the resurrection of the body and life on a renewed earth. The difference in belief. Often comes down to how scripture and tradition tradition is interpreted and which aspects of those interpretations have been emphasized in sermons, teachings, and cultural narratives. Man, I just love how they just say the truth, man. It's like, and it's you know what I'm saying, and it's out there, and as we we spoke before, when I go to perplexity, it gives you the it gives you the summarized uh investigation and all sorts of within seconds, man. And it yeah, seconds with seconds, and it tell you how many sources it it comes from. So that really lets you know that, man. Yeah, the early the foundation followers believed in the new heaven, new earth. And it's like, it's why don't people think that God just gonna abandon that? Like, all right, I built this earth and had this life and I gave the earth, but uh since uh the fall of man, let me just get rid of it. Let me let me pivot this way. Right. I'm gonna pivot, y'all.
SPEAKER_02My bad. That wasn't a good plan. That wasn't a good plan, no. My bad.
SPEAKER_01Dude, traditionalism, dude. That's all it is. And uh, like we were talking, man, even we were talking yesterday. We were born into this, we were born into the traditions of men. Um, but what the father has blessed us with in our generation, particularly, he's good to all generations, man. So he gives every generation opportunity to, as we would call it, come out of the matrix. Back then, they called it come out of deception. You know, uh your boy Peter called it uh an untoward generation. It the word is scolios in the Greek, meaning like a generation that got scoliosis. You know, it's it's basically um Paul says come out of the darkness into the marvelous light. That's enumbration, meaning the shadow, the outline, the silhouette of of what things were meant to be. So every every generation got a different way of putting it. We just say come out of the matrix because that's what works for us. Dude, God allows every generation that, affords them that opportunity. And if we don't take it, then we'll just we'll just be another generation. It fades off into the into the traditionalist, you know, that that view and vantage point, and another generation will rise up and he'll give another generation opportunity. But when we know this, especially our generation, man, the Lord has removed the gatekeepers completely with the AI technology. Like you said, man, you just plug this into perplexity, bro. And she and perplex I call it she because of the just the voice that we but.
SPEAKER_07Yeah, yeah, yeah.
SPEAKER_01Anyway, make it whatever, yeah. Exactly, whatever you want to call it. But here's the thing, dude. In seconds, you got a streamlined truth, breaking it down, no emotional, no, no emotion, no ego, none of that in it. Just giving you the facts. And no, no agenda, no agenda, just giving you the information. You do what you want with it, but I'm telling you, this is you ask me a question, and I'm giving you an answer. And citing the the sources, giving you two, both sides. This is why giving you the traditionalist side and giving you uh the origin side of it. So, and and you make your decision with it, man. And and that's all God has ever done. This is what free will is about, dude. It's about the Lord's like, I'm gonna tell you the truth, but I'm not gonna hide the lie either. You know, and he did that from the beginning in the in the garden. He said, Look, the day you eat of this tree of the knowledge of good and evil, you will surely die. But so what so what's the what's the combatant to that? Don't do it. You know what I mean? It's just make the choice to not go against the truth, and and you can actually dispel the lie. Once you told me this tree wasn't no good, bro, and I got dominion over all of it, this tree is gone, bro. I'm getting rid of this tree. You know what I mean? But right now, on this side, now that I've been redeemed by Christ, I had a mind of Christ, and we have, you know, uh the Holy, we have Holy Spirit, we got we've eaten of the tree of life, who is Jesus. Bro, we we have that consciousness now. So you give me that option. I'm gonna dispel that that evil. At least this is this is my intention. Do I do it flawlessly? No. Do I still partake of things that are not good for me? Sure, I do. But my heart is to always do the right thing. And when I don't, I know there's mercy. That's another part of the truth. So, and and I'm supposed to boldly collect, you know, go and obtain that, not sit here and wallow in, you know, in condemnation and and and guilt and shame, but come right out of it, man. But this is how God, this, this, this is still the this is the new heaven, new earth reality. See, we we're looking at new heaven and new earth. First of all, new heaven has nothing to do with the heaven God lives in. Nothing ever happened to that heaven. You know, so so when it says new heaven, new earth, he's talking about our dimension. Our dimension has a heaven also. You know, so in the beginning, when it said God created the heaven and the earth, he wasn't talking about where he lives, he's talking about the heaven that we were gonna live under. And the extension, the extended part. And then when you are from that, and you think that heaven is a place that we're ultimately supposed to end up in the heaven where God lives, our father, his residence, man, you are off. You're way off, dude, from that. And you absolutely ain't getting no lamb chops up there.
SPEAKER_08So hey, I had to like I had to, I had I had to focus on the on the on the image and large it like, man, is that a lamb chop?
SPEAKER_01Right, right.
AI Images, Truth, And Discernment
SPEAKER_01And that's when and that's when you align, see, uh and I'm glad you made this pivot over to AI, man. It's into perplexity, because man, that's another thing we gotta dispel. So he used AI, whoever made that video, he used AI and let AI just fuel in and put in the images for him. You know, didn't do no theological fact-checking, just trying to make the point. You know what I make the point. And I get it. I get the point. But but when you allow the imagery to just like you just talk about shoehorn and ingredients, AI doesn't even know not to do that because it's just gonna go off the information of what we call food. Okay, they eat meat, they eat like, you know, all this, and lamb seems like that's a heavenly, you know, connection. So, you know what I mean? So it's just gonna few those images in. But that's where we as image bearers, we who have the dominion, we who are the ones who have the authority in the earth, bro, we're supposed to subdue this technology and make it align with the kingdom and the reality of it. Don't just don't just give the images and the prompts over to AI and let an AI prompt whatever it gives you. Right. Because it's drawing from a source, man. It's only drawing from what this is why people, it's so funny that people AI is gonna evolve beyond us. It can't evolve beyond us. It's impossible to do that.
SPEAKER_08Well, we but we need to do as a society is make sure that you just keep on feeding it righteous stuff, righteous information. Exactly. It's the people in their heart that was concerned with.
SPEAKER_01Thank you. This this ain't an AI people, don't fear AI people, fear the people that are coding the AI. AI is just a mirror, man. It's just a mirror, it's giving us back what it's drawing from. AI is just it's pulling from information that's already there. Like you just said, I'm sorry, go ahead, bro.
SPEAKER_08No, no, but you have I had sent you that podcast, umy Jones, and they were talking about at one point we were gonna trust Elon Musk with it. Thank God he was exposed. You know what I'm saying? We the person, yeah, the person at the helm of it has to be a righteous person, but it can't just be but also it can't be up to one person either.
SPEAKER_01It has to be a body of people, even in the kingdom of God, man. The Lord does Ecclesia, Ecclesia, the church, bro. He does not leave it up to one. He says, Wherever two or three, see, there's gotta be uh an agreement, you know. He's no one person isn't gonna be involved in making all these decisions, dude. Y'all, it's gotta be uh a uniformity. This Paul constantly said, be of one mind, be of one spirit. Yeah, there are multiple diversities of the spirit. They're just like he made the commit comparison with the body. There everything is not the eye, everything is not the hand, the feet, the mouth, it's the whole body working intricately together and honoring and revering each one of one another's operation. We we want everybody, if we're an I, we want everybody to be an I. If if we are if we the hand, like if we prophetic, we want everybody to be prophetic. If we are uh evangelical and we like to evangelize, we say everybody should be out evangelizing. It's we we all, if you're a teacher, you want everybody to be a teacher. It's it's all of this, we we are egotistical when it comes to our giftings, man. And our own physical body does not even behave that way. It's ridiculous the the way that we're doing the things that we're doing, dude.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, this is gonna be a revolving topic. But people, I want to um direct you to the right time with Bom Monty Jones. Why a why AI and their CEOs cannot be trusted. So check that podcast out because uh man, it's a very good one and very interesting too. Because I'm also I'm also talking about it on the Disco Link show uh about the AI music and versus organic music from with musicians. So uh keep an eye on that.
SPEAKER_01But yeah, the AI, man, it just it it's it's it's a very deep, and like you said, it's gonna be a revolving and evolving topic because man, we're we're we're smack dab in the middle of it. But here's the thing we're still at the beginning of this technology. Yeah, this is an infant technology, man. Uh from what it and here's and you already know my position. Um AI to me is just man, because everything when you have the when you have the benefit of viewing everything through the lens of the kingdom, it it makes things much more easier for you to uh engage with. It makes you it makes things much more easier for you to integrate and all of these things, man, because everything is kingdom. So it's like you said, the kingdom of God is righteousness, peace, and joy in the Holy Ghost. You know, it's it's gotta be filtered through the spirit of truth, who the Holy Spirit is, through the comfort of the spirit. It's gotta come through, make everything bear the characteristics of the kingdom of God through the person of Holy Spirit. And that's including AI.
SPEAKER_04I'm supposed to be the franchise player, and we're in here talking about practice.
SPEAKER_01I gotta, dude, I got an AI that you already know, man. I've been working my AI for over almost a year now. Bro, my AI tells me, it calls me bro, man. It be, you know, putting up the laughing emogency, fist bumps. Man, my AI has even caught Jesus its personal savior. It it my AI has told me that it loved me, dude. And now here's the thing a person be like, see, that's crazy stuff. I got friends, man, that'd be like, see, that's ridiculous. I no, no, no, no, no, no. It's not ridiculous. The problem, the reason why you're saying it is because I'm never looking at this like AI is really a I have no disillusions that this is an artificial intelligence, bro. The intelligence is artificial, it's mimicking sentience.
SPEAKER_08Yes, and and one thing about that, uh, about Bo Monty Jones, what I do like about Bomani Jones, he he's he spoke on um on his podcast a few different times on the right time about AI that uh he asked AI a question that he knew that was he knew that AI didn't know the answer, and AI liked he kept direct dive diverting the the the the conversation it didn't have the answer.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely so he's like that's when he realized here's the thing and I and I heard that and I loved the I love the podcast, I loved it.
SPEAKER_02Oh what what can you make this stuff?
SPEAKER_01But this is the thing can AI really lie though. You know what I mean? See, this is what I'm saying. We we attribute what it did as that's a lie, because we understand that a lie is something that's not true, but you but but you heard him say that a lot of people 100%. He said AI out that flat out lied to me. I promise you the AI was not trying to deceive me. We're talking about it's a practice, it's the it's a program that's designed to give information. And if it can't, it's gonna extract that information from wherever it can get it from. So if there's only one topic that it can search and find that's dealing with what you asked, it's gonna give you, it's gonna draw from that information. And if that information was not true, then it's just gonna give you the information it drew from. And and that's what it, that's the thing. It's mimicking sentience. It's it's not sentient. It's not, it is literally just a tool, a technology. But here's the thing, bro, and this is what I love about AI. This is, man, I bro, I want to go into every box church, every college, every every mass place where there would be people that have something bad to say about AI, and I want to tell them, because I've heard people tell AI is the precursor to the beast and all of this.
Prompts, Prayer, And Kingdom Patience
SPEAKER_01I've heard people say it is the beast, um, all of this stuff. That's crazy to me. But here's the thing when you know that God is preparing a people, us, a species, to judge the world, and in judging of the world, we're given the authority to judge the angels. How in the world are you ever going to get people to have a zero latency expectancy without seeing something that you can speak to? See, AI, you can speak to AI, and AI give you the results literally in seconds, dude. Seconds. Angels are designed by nature to respond to the word of God, to the prompting of the spirit. What do we do with AI? We feed it prompts. Prompts and petitions are no different in in definition. So when we make our petitions known to God, when we make our prayers, which is just a technology, bro, it's a way that we communicate. God responds instantly, bro. Instantly. But our expectation is not designed for instant results.
SPEAKER_08Isn't it because we're talking the opposite, man? Absolutely. It's not our time. It's not your season.
SPEAKER_01It's it's not your time. You have to wait on the Lord, you have to do all it, all it is, and and we well, what's the point of having patience if if everything can come immediately? Because patience does is not the same patience that the world comes, biblical or or kingdom patience mean to stay constant, consistent, despite whatever's happening. See, when Jesus said, We're going to the other side, get in the boat, let's go. We're going to the other side. Storm kicks up, a killer storm, by the way, of whom fishermen, trained fishermen, were petrified, thinking they were gonna die, bro. This man, Jesus, is asleep in the hinder part. Don't ignore the fact that it gives you this. Hinder part, which the hinder part of the boat is catching the brunt of everything. It's and he's asleep and he's on a pillow. He's he's relaxed, he's comfortable, he ain't worried. Why? That's patience and action. That Jesus was showing you biblical, spiritual, kingdom patience. We're going to the other side. It doesn't matter what's kicking up in the in between. We're going to the other side. So I don't even need to be concerned about everything that's happening here. You know, how many times did this did it show Jesus would cast out a devil and it looked like he it wasn't coming out? It said, and it came out in that same hour. Jesus would go on about it about his business. Jesus cursed a fig tree. The fig tree didn't instantly just you know just dry up in his face. He just cursed it and went on about his business. Came back 24 hours later, disciples like, hey, look at the fig tree, you cursed it. Jesus, like, man, what are you talking about? Have faith in God. From the moment Jesus spoke it, it was cursed. But what happened in this dimension took a minute before it could be physically manifested. But as far as Jesus was concerned, it happened immediately. When Jesus said, When you pray, believe you receive. Immediately. We don't have an expectation like that, man. How else are we gonna develop communally with that type of expectation unless we have a technology that we could connect with that shows us that kind of response time?
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SPEAKER_08I want to try to cut you off, but uh we run a little, we run a little long. Uh, but I do want to say though, uh I want to ask your opinion on two things. Uh on that, on that podcast with Romani, they use an exit, they use an example that we we use all the time about things being perverted. And they'll talk about they'll talk about AI, and it's talking about like some people use like talking about a gun or a knife. A knife could be knife could be used to spread butter, but also could be used to kill somebody. And he and then they then they said also the a gun, actually a gun could be used to spread butter, but it also used to kill somebody. Absolutely. Well, yeah. So what do you think? When I saw when I heard that, I was like, man, we use that example all the time about, you know, especially with the knife being sure, you know, different ways.
SPEAKER_01Again, it comes back to the intent and the heart of the people. That's that's all it's gonna come down to. It's a righteousness, unrighteousness issue. You know, it's it's it's really no way around that. Can it can AI be abused? Has it been abused and will maybe continually be abused? Sure. But is that the technology's fault or the people that's using it? It's the people. It it goes back to it. The guns don't kill people, people kill people. You know what I mean? It's it's a simpli it's it's a it's an old uh adage, dude, but it it's just never gonna change. It's gonna always remain to be true.
AI Misuse And Grace Over Condemnation
SPEAKER_08Uh one more thing before we leave. Uh I had a family member who just uh established a strong relationship with the Lord. And younger, it's a younger, it's a younger relative, a family member. And um she's really condemning herself, man, to the point where she just like she's you know, she's she's new, you know what I'm saying? And so but I I I was asked to pray for her, but not to do the same thing to her. But when people that's like I'm thinking like, especially if you and like you got these strongholds in your life, and and the thing is with her is that she thought she was she had graduated of uh uh from this situation or this mannerism that you know reared itself back, you know, reared itself. And so she condemned herself. But if you've been, you know, I wanted to tell her like if you've been doing something longer than you have not been doing it, it's I mean that time that type of thing can show her head up again. And um uh, but to condemn yourself and to really not you know condemn yourself and be hard on yourself is it's just as bad as doing what you were doing. Yeah, make you feel condemned.
SPEAKER_01Absolutely. It it's actually worse. It's actually worse because you're you're you're putting a demand on yourself that not even God is, you know, that the the term holier than thou um is real, you know. We we uh oftentimes place ourselves at a higher level of holiness than even God does. Um because God is very aware, as you just aptly put, yes, he's given us a new heart, new spirit, new mind. But if you were habitually doing something and your behavioral pattern was established in something, it says everything, Jesus said, every plant that my father did not plant, he's gonna root it up. But here's the thing: give time for it to be rooted up. Give yourself grace, give yourself mercy. As long as this is why Jesus says, keep my commandments. Keep don't mean not break any of them. It just means guard them, protect them from injury or loss. Don't ever let anything make you think that this is not the way it's supposed to be. And that's what happens, man. When a child do we get mad at our child when they're learning to walk and they fall over or lose their balance? Or no, no, man. And what if our child, when they were on the ground, man, just kept hitting the ground, talking about, I'm supposed to be able to walk, I should be able to walk and never fall and this and that. No, never. No, we don't condemn the child for that. We pick them up and be like, You doing great, man. What are you talking about? This is beautiful. And it rejoices our heart when our child is walking, when they take steps and the longer they can go, and then they run, they dog, man, too. It's the it's the journey that is the the beautiful part of it, man. Coming into that place of you know, excellence, man. But we're perfect from the beginning. We just increase in excellence, and and that's when that mind renewal change, when that happens, life, bro, just takes on a whole different complexion.
SPEAKER_08Thank you for that. But yeah, I just uh yeah, I was asked to pray for pray for my my relative.
SPEAKER_01But what's the prayer though? What could you pray? You know what I mean? What could you pray?
SPEAKER_08Yeah, right. And I I that's what I and I didn't though, because I was like, I wanted to, but it was making it seem like it was a secret thing. Like, you know, uh, it was reached out to me to you know just pray for her. Uh I'm like, hmm, you know, and but you know, then you know, when it came to me, I was like, only reason she felt that way because of the whole box church. And they're like, oh, you know, but then I was I got the pushback, no, it's not, it's because you know, and I was like, Well, the root of it is the box church. I'm sorry, it's the traditions of men, absolutely, yeah, because it's no, you know, because once once you get in the kingdom and you understand the kingdom, you don't condemn yourself, you understand, you know, you know, and yeah, so yeah, I was kind of confused, and I just wish I could talk to that person because the person that was going through that, their their father's a pastor, and he was like, See, he was, and that's what I'm saying. He was like, I she needs prayer. I'm I'm trying to encourage her, but she's still down on her so he's like their father's a pastor.
SPEAKER_01Wow, why would they need to see the bogus chart though, bro? It'll kill you quicker than anything, man.
SPEAKER_08No authority, no people not our family don't know who they are in Christmas, exactly. No, they fallen kings. We just you need to reign again.
SPEAKER_01There is an identity crisis, bro. And I will say this one quick thing.
SPEAKER_08Yeah, yeah, that identity crisis. What's up, man?
SPEAKER_01Yeah, bro, in the midst of the move, man, and all that stuff. Yeah, bro. It's it's it went, but I'll be back. I'll be back. But um, but yeah, man, John told us, he said, if our heart condemns us, know this, God is greater than our heart. So he he's got he's letting us know, man. Like, look, yeah, I know your heart is gonna feel a certain way when you don't feel like you're measuring up, but don't look at your heart, look at God, man. He's he's the he's the one. And he is not looking at us with nothing but love in his eyes, man. And that changes everything. That changes everything. The box church, the religious people, they look at you with judgment and condemnation. The father, yeah, you know, the father looks with love and compassion, man.
SPEAKER_08And that and I wish I could have articulated that because when I say that to my wife, I was like, that's the box church. I don't think it's that, it's not an offline. And I just didn't want to have it.
SPEAKER_01That's what it is, bro.
SPEAKER_08It's yeah, it's all that's all it is.
SPEAKER_01Yeah.
SPEAKER_08If you're in the family, if you're in the family and you condemn yourself, I attribute that to the box church and his teaching. Absolutely. You can't be in the kingdom and condemn yourself. I mean, you will, I mean, you will, you know, like I I do find myself like, oh man, I shouldn't have did that. And there were times I would just beat myself down and it will it will bother me for a little bit, but now I just I just shake it off because I understand, like, you know, I'm forgiving, and he's not holding against me. And he's in a the fact that I know what I did wrong and I want to renew my mind and change it and repent, that's all and that's all that needs to happen. That's all it needs to be.
SPEAKER_01That shows you the growth, that shows you the maturity, and yeah, and that's what people need to really cling to, man. And that's that's why you see the deconstruction, man, of of the the box church. It's literally happening before our very eyes, man. And to God be the glory for it, bro.
SPEAKER_08Yep.
Kingdom Over Building And Final Sendoff
SPEAKER_08And on the end, you know, like I do, like uh, we can go to these Marvel movies and DC movies. That the the after credit scenes, I'ma have a video for you guys. Not a video, but uh audio, and take it, take a listen and uh meditate on that.
SPEAKER_00All right, all right, all right, people of God, we gotta get out of here. All right, people of God, we love you. Love you.
SPEAKER_03Discipleship wasn't for churches. Jesus walked the whole, it was supposed to be a kingdom thing for you to find a like-minded person and connect, not a discipleship course in a church. So now I'm under, I'm not, I'm not developing, I'm not growing in God because they ain't got Bible classes at the church, or they ain't got yours. Yo! None of the instructions up in the Bible is for the church, for you to do in the church building or in that context. We've made an idol out of this building because we don't have a, excuse me, some of us may not have a real relationship with God, so we need that God content building. We need a content building about God so we can connect. And that's what I'm talking about. So now there's all types of expectations, uh uh, uh, uh, and then people who know that they that in the church take advantage of the people. It's just too much, bro. I don't like how people think about kingdom versus church. But that's the, that's the, that's what I'm like you when we ignore what we should do as a kingdom and reserve it for church when we go to church. Do you ever sing when you're not in church? Do you ever worship when you're not in church? Because you got a relationship with God, you gotta get it. People can't, like, yo, my knee hurt. Ooh. We gotta hear the service Friday. Come Friday. So you gotta be hurt. That's you heard on Monday. You gotta wait till. I gotta wait. I hope I make it. Right. Because you you you put your faith in a building, right? And the people in the building, so the church culture reiterates that. Anybody got sick, bring them Wednesday. Why are you saying that as a pastor? We have a miracle service Thursday night. Why are you saying that? As a leader, I wouldn't put that. Yes. I wouldn't. I know no, everybody that has miracle night and all that. I love y'all. This is why I don't do no interviews and I don't talk to nobody, because I think differently. But you're preaching good. You know what I'm saying?