Franklin's Garage to Stage

Daz from UK Band Loser - follow up interview after tour

• Franklin's • Season 3 • Episode 5

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A canceled gig can feel like a punch to the gut—especially when fans already have tickets. We dig into why that happens today, tracing the math venues use to keep doors open and why pre-sales have become the deciding factor for grassroots rooms across the UK. With Daz at the wheel—literally and figuratively—we explore what it takes to run three bands in one night, keep a van rolling for four-hour drives, and still deliver a tight set when the gear throws curveballs.

You’ll hear the inside track on practical touring: how to build a load-in plan that respects every instrument, why redundancy is your best friend, and how to stay musical when a Marshall’s inputs rip off the board or a pedalboard dies mid-song. Daz opens up about recording ambitions on the road, the moment he scaled back to protect energy and quality, and the simple habits that keep shows on time and bands in sync. We also zoom out to community, spotlighting Killfest’s charity roots and the scene-building power of tribute acts working alongside original rock.

There’s history here too: a New Jersey family who won Lemmy’s Rickenbacker on the Another Perfect Day tour, complete with photos and setup quirks that inspired how Daz wears his own bass. It’s a story about tone, identity, and the way small technical choices shape big stage presence. Through it all, kindness in the van, clear roles, and honest feedback turn long weekends into real growth for younger players finding their live voice.

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Rob:

Hi, welcome to Franklin's Garage to Stage podcast. My name is Rob Wardrums Franklin, and my co-host is Dana Thunderbass Franklin.

Daz:

How are you doing, brother? I'm doing really, really well.

Rob:

Hey, lately we've been starting our episodes with a quote. I like to do quotes for kind of inspiration, and I always relate them to music in some form. So this is actually one of my favorite quotes. It's by uh Larry Cunningham, and it is it is difficult to live in the present, ridiculous to try to live in the future, and impossible to live in the past. Nothing is as far away as one minute ago. So to me, that's like I use that for inspiration, like especially if I like grew up at practice or something. It's like, okay, that's a minute ago. Forget about it. All right, David, you want to you want to introduce our guest today?

Daz:

Absolutely. Um we've actually got a returning guest with us today, um, all the way over from the from the UK. His name is uh Daz. And um, so so Daz, please tell the uh tell the audience here and all the listeners a little bit about what you're all about in case they didn't listen to our other episode with you. Uh thank you. Uh Rob, Dan, it's great to see you both again. Thank you very much. I'm Daz Evelope. I am uh with the band Loser. So we are a Motorhead Trivia Dack. Uh we're also uh a rock and roll band. So we're working on a neat key that'll have three original songs and uh three or four covers on it to release early to mid next year. Um we've been touring all year this year, so our first chat together, we were talking about um the three bands I'm taking on the road, typically with a main support, local main support if we get lucky, and taking them all over the UK. So we're in the north of England in Carlisle, and um, we get three, four-hour drive away regularly, up into Scotland, out to Wales, down into the upper Midlands, I'll call it Yorkshire, etc.

Dana:

Cool.

Daz:

And your quote was fantastic, by the way. I just want to say it works for music beautifully. For live music, don't worry about the note you hit wrong. You know, go go forward because you gotta keep going forward. It also works for motorcycles.

Dana:

There you go. There you go.

Daz:

Yeah, you can't focus on the mistake you just made, or you're gonna make another one. Not a good time to do it.

Rob:

So it looks like uh according to your socials, you've got a show coming up uh Saturday, right?

Daz:

Oh, we have just really finished our tour for the year. Um we we did a lovely show last uh Sunday, something before that. Uh oh, we did, and and this is a really good point. So, first off, we did have a show on Saturday, November 8th, which canceled. Oh and the last time we spoke, we talked about advanced tickets being so important. Yes, uh we had we had uh 30 something shows booked this year, 25 we did, and five canceled. And it really hurts for the people who bought the ticket who want to make it to those five shows, you just can't make it work, right? Well, you know, and pre-sales. You know, how do the how do how do these clubs I mean I understand the concept behind it, but it's like you know, these these clubs gotta understand there's a lot of last-minute people that just don't do pre-sales and they'll probably still fill the place. And it's I mean, I know it's a thin line there, but that kind of sucks. Yeah, but yeah, uh unfortunately, I mean, here in the UK we have a lot of grassroots venues, but somehow because we have so many, there's a lot of closures. So um the the clubs you played last year, 3%, 5% of them are gone next year. Wow. Damn. And you know, other ones are trying to fill the gap. They see that there's a problem. New places are coming up, then they're excited, they have new energy. But the issue is it the club can't constantly take that gamble because they can't constantly take a loss or just simply break even. Right. So they have to know it's gonna be a good night.

unknown:

Right.

Dana:

Yeah, I I I definitely get that.

Rob:

They don't judge it on the number of followers you have, unlike your socials, or is that not part of their like I I would say that helps you get in the door.

Daz:

Okay. Right? You get the answer to the request w, you know, uh is there any interest, that type of thing. But it's this the pre-sales are gonna tell them if there's enough people in there for them to make money on the bar, and therefore, you know, have have a night that is gonna keep the lights on.

Dana:

Yeah.

Daz:

So it's it's kind of I think it used to be the trick where if you have enough uh attention, if you have enough buzz, it's likely people are gonna show up on the night. Nowadays, especially with socials, etc. etc., it's really down to those pre-sale tickets here in the UK. I don't know what it's like in the US. But now what's with the with that pre-sale? Is there like a special formula? Is it like 50% capacity, or is there like a certain number that you think they're looking for? Or yeah, so I think there is a special number, and it depends on the venue. And what they're gonna do is they're gonna do a calculation. The first piece of the calculation is what would the venue hire cost? So you can do that. You can call the venue and say, if I simply hired the venue, what's my fee? That that's not a great night for them, but that'll keep the lights on.

Dana:

Yeah, that'll pay them for that.

Daz:

Exactly. So then on top of that, depending on how many people are coming, etc., they're gonna have to hire security, there's an extra cost, there's more staff on at the bar, etc. So they start trying to figure out what their outlay is gonna be for the night, their overhead. Um, but the the the first piece, the bare minimum, is what would the venue hire cost be? And if you can't hit that on pre-sales, I really don't think you know they're they're gonna get start giving pushback. And by the way, they hate doing it too. It's not like um this is you know somehow bringing them in joy that they're nice. Yeah.

Dana:

Shit.

Daz:

So I saw that you've got uh a cool festival coming up in um next year uh called Killfest. What's that all about? Maybe explain a little bit about what what's going on with that. Oh, what a great one. Um, so I'm gonna start way at the beginning, which is a friend of mine, Harry Miller. Uh, you should probably talk to him. He's in a motorhead tribute act in the UK. Oh wait, so am I. Um they were around they were around a few years before we were. They're in the same county, they're in Cumbria. They're called Motor Beard.

Rob:

Okay.

Daz:

Um, and they're so good. They're a three-piece, and Harry is like watching the Ghost of Lemmy on stage. Really? I mean, we're an homage. We we bring our version of Motorhead. He brings Motorhead. He's amazing. Wow. Well, you you sound amazing too.

Rob:

I've I watch your videos, and dude, you're spot on. Serious. I think.

Daz:

I I honestly appreciate it. Uh I really I look up to Harry. I think he does a great job. Yeah.

Rob:

Um give us his contact info.

Daz:

Yeah. Oh, I will. I'll you should chat with him. All right. Um so he brought us to a club uh where he was playing, and I chatted with him. I did an interview. I've interviewed him maybe three times for my YouTube, and none of them have made it to the YouTube. Because the interview has always been after the drink. So it's just not fit for publishing. Uh so not yet. I haven't yet had an interview that made it. Anyway, um, he brought us there and he's a lovely football. Um, so it's uh Phil Frain and his wife Denise, and their son was with him, and they have brought um something that they made as a uh a lockdown art project, which was a a mobile oh, this is really tough to describe. It's like an articulated lorry, uh, like think a truck, like a Mac truck. Okay, with Lemmy driving it, a little model of Lemmy. So it's like a one-third model of a semi. And it's got motorheads painted on the side, and it's black, and it's got um the signature of Bill Campbell and Girl School, and all these amazing people have been to it and signed this little piece of art, and they brought it up on a trailer. And so Motorbeard were playing this show, and these lovely humans were there raising money for the Sophie Lancaster Foundation, um, taking donations all night. Um and they run charities all the time. So last year, Harry played Killfest with Motorbeard and had a blowout weekend three-day thing. I think it was just two or three-day thing this year. And um, when that was done, we chatted with them and they said, Oh, why don't you come next year? So uh we're gonna go down with all three apps Bay of Pigs, Eagle Trip, and Loser, and we're gonna play on the Saturday to open things up. It's really good. Um, the these people they have really kind hearts. Um, Bill recently had heart surgery, and so they're raising money for Sophie Lancaster and um the hospital that they went to. Really lovely humans. Cool. Is it like a charity event thing? Is that what it's like awesome?

Rob:

How much uh attendance-wise, well, how many people are we talking?

Daz:

Usually, I I I suspect it's gonna be two, three hundred. Okay, yeah, I can't guarantee that I didn't go to the first one, so I didn't see it myself. But cool.

Rob:

Well, you you kind of brought it up already, but can you can you give us a little bit of uh info about your other bands that you participate in? You kind of like touched on it.

Daz:

Sure. Um yeah, it it is an amusing thing that uh we kind of roll into town and I I stand on stage for about four hours straight. And so I play bass with the opening band, which is called Bay of Pigs. There's thrash. We do four or five covers and three original songs, and um that starts the night off. It's fun, it's a little bit of an outlet, and then I go off stage and change my shirt or something, and I come back as a completely different bearded old man, and uh I play with Ego Trip. Ego Trip are a kind of 90s grunge thing. You had an interview with them. Uh they are young and have a lot of energy, good guys. And they've come a long way this year. That stage time has really benefited them. And um, I mean we had a show just in we did Glasgow in Edinburgh. And in Edinburgh, I was chatting with some folks in the crowd before we went on. And when I came off stage, this fella in the audience he pulled me aside, he grabbed my hand and he did a Trump shake. You know the Trump handshake where he pulled you in? He pulled me in, he looked me dead in my eyes, and he said, I could swear I was in the room with Wayne Staley. Oh wow. It just uh you know it's an unsolicited comment. He didn't have to say that. Really lovely. So Ego Trip are doing really well. They're they've got a seven-track album, The Water. Yeah, I was gonna ask you about that. Yep, yeah, a couple months ago. Um doing all right, it could always do better. Oh, yeah. We'd love some of your 50,000 listeners. We will turn them on to it. That's we will. That's we will. Um, yeah, but it's it's from the heart. No covers on that album, it's all original music, and it's these guys been making it since they were teenagers. Awesome. That sounds cool. Um, so I mean, you obviously wear a lot of hats because you know, being in all three bands, and then I think you've mentioned before that you also drive the band, and you're pretty much the manager and the the the parents of the kids on an eagle trip. More or less, yeah. So when do you sleep? What what the hell? I mean I get back exhausted. I I honestly earnestly get back exhausted. Um, we did a couple where we grab uh now I'm gonna have to share. Oh yeah, share, please. One one that was a tour story that the boys absolutely loved is we were coming back from Wales. We did a lovely show in Wales, and we had kind of thought, oh, we'll make we'll make a run home and see if we can get home. But that was the Sunday, it was the third day of a three-day tour. And we finished at one in the morning. We weren't gonna get home until like five in the morning. So we were driving through, and on the way, my lead guitar player got on the his phone and booked us a hotel room with two beds.

Dana:

Oh no. How does that work?

Daz:

Yeah, so what they decided is four of us don't need to sleep, but we don't want to die. So we're gonna stop halfway. You, you, the the guy going to work the next day, and the guy who's driving us, go upstairs, get as much sleep as you can by this time, and then come down and meet us, and we'll finish the drive. And uh they were all laughing because I did complete they said it was like um uh hanging out with a robot or something, because we kind of we we got the room, we got upstairs, I immediately got under the covers and closed my eyes, and that was it. I was north.

Rob:

Yeah, I wish I could.

Daz:

And the alarm went off, and I just jumped straight up and I was like, we must go. Boom, we're out the door, right? But we got home safely, and that's what matters. Cool.

Rob:

Well, you touched on this earlier as well, but uh I see that you're doing interviews, and tell us about this interview with Chris, I believe it's pronounced ILO.

Daz:

That's exactly right. He says it's like three letters, right? ILO. Yeah. Yeah, Chris is from New Jersey. I've been trying to line this interview up for a year, but a year ago his father passed. And um sorry, sorry, I got that wrong. His uncle Peter passed. His father had passed, I think, the year or two before. Um, so he was not ready to talk about it, I don't think. Um managed to line it up. He was willing to chat with me, and he talked about his father and two uncles who had gone to a show in New York. And um, when they went to go see Motorhead L'Amour, they went to a record store, there was a contest, they entered the contest, and they wanted to just see who was gonna win, and it was them. Chris's father, Chris, won Lemmy's Brick and Bacher bass guitar.

Dana:

Damn. Oh wow, oh shit, that was cool.

Daz:

That was just simply amazing. It was on the Another Perfect Day tour, and it's got so much provenance. I mean, this guy's got the newspaper article with his picture of his father holding the Rick with Lemmy next to him, like handing it off. It's the back of the guy. So that was uh actual bass that he performed with. I mean, it was uh that is sweet. That's cool. Oh yeah. And so during the interview, I I couldn't get my trap shot, and unfortunately, the video switches to me too much when I'm trying I'm admiring the bass and the video switching away from it. But I was showing him that um I can show you guys right now, actually. So on a on a real Rick like this, the strap is on the horn. Okay, so the strap button is up top, but Lemmy didn't like that, and he would put it in the middle in the back of the guitar, like an acoustic guitar would do. So just in the back side of the neck.

Rob:

Why out of curiosity?

Daz:

So it feels cool. So it feels cool. So like when I had this made by a luthier, and I had to make it without the button there, and instead, the buttons there. Oh, okay. And what happens is the way the strap holds against the body, and it's against your your bot against your body, it pulls away in a way.

Rob:

Oh, okay. I'm a drummer, so I know it's lighter.

Daz:

Yeah, it just it just feels different in the hands. I mean, if you've ever played an acoustic guitar with a strap on uh uh button on the back, you can feel the difference in weight in the way it sits on you. Oh, okay. Um so yeah, it was a really good chat, and I was showing him, I had him turning it around and showing me different parts of it, and I was saying, oh, this is why that's like that. This is why that's like that. Um and he took the um when when Lemmy handed it to his father Chris, he took off the um bridge cover. So the bridge pickup cover, there's a little piece of metal that comes out on a Rickenbacher. He wanted that, so he he he took it off, he's unscrewed it and took the cover.

Dana:

Oh that's it.

Daz:

Anyway, yeah, that was a great conversation. Chris is a great guy. Um you should probably try to chat with him, but I'll see if I can get him on again.

Rob:

That was that was that something you're gonna continue doing? Uh it's like kind of your own podcast, I guess, so to speak.

Daz:

Yeah, so I've got a few different little podcasts on the YouTube channel, and I I don't try to do it with regularity. I'm not as good as you guys are, where like you you wrap up and then it's posted. I get it to video and then I edit it to take out all my ums and ers. And that takes me three months, and then I feel like it's time because it's so old. So then uh it takes another three months of sitting around waiting to post it. Yeah, I I I gotta think the tech guy over here, you know, war drums, he's the one that does all that stuff. So whenever whenever I fuck up, he's like, okay, I can take care of that. We'll we'll edit that out. So being on the road, and I mean I know you just got back from you know doing what five, six, seven months of pretty solid touring. Uh what have you learned from that experience as far as I know you said, especially with Eagle Trip, that they were younger kids and you were getting excited to get them out on the stage and you know, used to the live feel and all that. It's like, did you learn any, you know, the good and bad of what you learned just from this past tour? No, it was fantastic. So we were out from January through October with uh at least one weekend a month. Several of them were two. Um we we were at it and busy. Um there there was a lot of, and I think every band will relate to this, right? A lot of figuring out what is all the equipment, what does it mean? Why is it with us? How does it work? Right? So the drummer usually doesn't worry about the bass guitar stuff and blah blah blah, right? But there's multiple bands in this van, and we have to get where we're going, and we have to get set up as quickly as possible and write down as quickly as possible, and that means you need to think about everything that's on stage and help each other out, right? Um, so that was a learning all year. All yeah, right up until the very end, we're still, you know, uh improving on how what we use. Another big one is I brought my own back line and I brought my own engineer monitor system as a um recording studio. So I set all my mics up on everything, and I multi-track recorded all the original shows. That was intensive. Because as you know, I'm doing everything and I and I'm driving and I'm trying to stay awake. So that slowly dwindled off.

Rob:

Yeah, that's a that's a lot of things you have to think about.

Daz:

Yeah, so we left that behind most of the shows. Uh we brought it recently, but I'd say for the past three or four months, we haven't touched it at all. Um and yeah, there's been a lot of kind of like always have backups. This has always been my thing, but always have backups. So it um guitars on stage, strings are gonna break. So if you've got two guitar players and two guitars, have a third sitting in the van.

unknown:

Right?

Daz:

That way, worst case scenario, uh you can grab something and retune it or whatever's needed.

Rob:

Well, that leads right into our moment that we like to discuss with everybody we uh interview. What is the uh oh shit moment that may have happened during this uh last tour for you?

Daz:

All right, this is gonna be tough to describe. Um just like if you're listening to only audio and you heard me describe those Rickenbachers, right? You're thinking, what was he even talking about? Can you see this amplifier behind me?

Rob:

I sure can, yeah.

Daz:

All right, on a Marshall JMP amplifier, there are four inputs. There's input one, high and low, or let's say bright and rhythm, and there's input two, bright and rhythm. And those four inputs, you can jump between them and you can blend the volumes. So you can it changes the tone where um input one and input two have slightly different tones, so you can blend them together. All fine, right?

Dana:

In theory, yeah.

Daz:

So along the way, um, I have a light an LED I had made on the that I put on the face of my amplifier. Okay, and along the way, we started having fun by putting it on the floor behind me in order to kind of have this lit stage feeling behind me.

Dana:

Cool.

Daz:

Yeah, it was nice, it was working fine until and I hold no grudge button from Ego Trip quite accidentally stepped backwards directly onto my input board. Oh, and his foot just went to the floor with the cable. Oh, the two inputs that are inside this Marshall just literally ripped off the motherboard. Oh and I went from bowl to death.

Rob:

That's definitely an ocean.

Daz:

Thankfully, there's that was ocean. And I looked down and realized what had happened, and there's four inputs. So I just swapped the two, and my tone changed, but and the amp was still working. So quit thinking, all right. Always have a back up.

Rob:

Oh. You had to have more than one ocean.

Daz:

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Throw some more at us. Seven months, three bands. We know you got more. We'll put you on the spot to come up with another one. That that was uh ego trip playing and messing up my loser amplifier. We had one uh just recently. So we did, I said Glasgow and Edinburgh.

Rob:

Right.

Daz:

And our lead guitar player of Losers pedal board started acting up. And it was kind of it was just cutting out to nothing. And on the first night, he would get I would notice that he would stop playing and he'd get down on his knees, and it'd be messing around with the quarter-inch cables in between the pedals, right? So which one is it? Is it the power? Is it the right? I think every band discovered this one and had that. But after, you know, what 10 months of touring, he's messing around with this pedal board. And basically, it was one pedal, he would smack it, and the thing would just come back to life, slightly louder than it was before, and he'd get up and he'd keep playing. And the next thing I'd know, I'd see him kneeling down and messing around the pedalboard again. And we said, Okay, well, let's fix it for the second night. Uh we didn't fix it, we made it twice as bad. So he spent half the gig on his knees.

Dana:

Yeah, that's definitely yeah.

Daz:

We're chatting with the audience, and thank gosh, we have two guitars. So the bass, the guitar, and the drums are still moving forward, but he's over here messing around, right? So, from a crowd perspective, I don't think anybody felt that it was a disrupt distraction or they had missed something. The the song was still there, but he was sweating that the poor guy was happening. He said, Being on the road with these guys for that long, not only you know, just with one van, but let alone with three, you know, you guys are sleeping in the same quarters, driving and all that. Uh, you know, there's gotta be some episodes where you know there's there's a time where somebody's like, okay, get the fuck out of the van and walk for a couple of a couple miles before I you know hit you. I mean, were there were there times where you know the the the temper started to fly? I I'm I you're not gonna believe me. And I think I'm really lucky, but these sticks, the core sticks that represent the three bands now with member changes, we'll get along so well. Oh, that's cool.

Dana:

That's great.

Daz:

We we really are. Uh it's a pleasure to work with them. I uh they they uh they know that there's this amazing opportunity. They're all younger and and that they all want that stage time, as we discussed in our first interview. And they're getting it. Cool. And they're improving and they can feel it. So they they have the right attitude, they're here for the right reason.

Rob:

So it's not a lot of nitpicking. Well, you're doing this, you're doing that kind of thing, or no?

Daz:

No, really honestly.

Rob:

That's cool.

Daz:

That's really good. And we're we're we've all been really good at kind of just giving each other space. If it looks like you're having a rough day, don't worry, I'll I'll pick up the slack and I'll move the drums or whatever it is, and it we all fill in for each other. Okay, so that that's live. What about regular practices at home? Is that when the ship flies? No, that's a really, really good one. I mean, we have these original songs we're working on, and we're about to do the recording, and I suspect the creative process is where things might a little bit. Um, but no one's brought no one's brought tempers, no one's brought um negativity. We just talk it through.

Rob:

Okay, awesome. Hey, I've noticed that you've got some uh some pictures on here from a James Hadley photography that are outstanding. Can we use some of these on our website?

Daz:

No, please do, yeah. And just please, if you can preserve the James Hadley watermark.

Rob:

Okay, okay, yeah, sure will.

Daz:

He's great. He lives here in Carlisle. Um, he's he's uh doing music venues all over the place, and we he's jumped in the van with us before and come with us on tour.

Rob:

Oh, that's very cool. All right. Uh you still have a comedian opened up for you guys? I know you had kind of like a whole uh whole thing show with you know with that, you know, yeah, so not headling, but starting.

Daz:

Yeah, it uh the about the first half of the tour we did that, and then uh it kind of fell apart. Um it he really what was happening is that he was having some health issues. Oh we don't need to and and um for him he's in Glasgow. So before we get moving, he has a two-hour journey to get to us. And then we drive another four hours for the show, etc. And um he started having some health issues that was affecting his ability to drive. Yeah, yeah. Logistically, it had to be tough anyway. Yeah, so um uh he's he's doing local gigs, he's doing really well in Glasgow. He's doing these um uh Dungeons and Dragons nights.

Dana:

Uh okay.

Daz:

Uh so so yeah, um stay staying in touch with him, but it doesn't work logistically at the moment.

Rob:

Unfortunately, we were cut off. We had some internet issues from uh our discussion with Daz. Um but we will close it out here saying it was a pleasure having him, and um we apologize for the interruption. But Dana, what do you want to say in closing? I know you had some closing comments there.

Dana:

You know, yeah.

Daz:

I I got a little phrase I'd like to say here too. But yeah, it was it was awesome talking to Doz. And you know, of course he couldn't say goodbye because we got cut off. You know, I don't know if it was our end or his end, but it's it's always good to talk to him. Sounds like they had a great time over there in tour. So um, but in closing, I'd like to say, you know, my little uh speech here is uh you know the greatest healer in life is music. Begin and end each day with it. I mean uh how do you how do you not go wrong with that? It's uh you know if you start your day out with listening to some good music and you end your day with some good music, it's uh you know it it doesn't matter what happens in between, right? You know, we'd like to thank all of our listeners out there. I mean we're at we're over the 50,000 mark, and uh it's uh uh you know I think we're at 31, 32, 33 countries now, just uh you know making this shit international and loving it. So we thank each one of you. And you know, you know, please get on our website, you know, Franklin GarageThestage.com. Um you know, leave a comment. We got some special prizes, we got t-shirts, we got swag, swag swag, whatever you want to add. Uh you know, to give away to you know, leave a cool ass comment and we will get we'll hook you up with some shit. You know, we've got some cool t-shirts and you know we can do all kinds of stuff, but you know, leave a comment, leave your email so we can pass on other stuff to you. Uh we've got some really killer podcasts lined up over the next couple of months. Uh I mean we're we're blessed that we're actually uh booked for the rest of November and uh you know and all into next month and up up until the new year. Yeah, we've got some cool shit coming up. So you know, thanks you guys for listening and you know. Get on our thing and you know support us. We could use a couple bucks here and there to you know help do all the editing and all the cool stuff we do here. You know, buy more t shirts and do stuff like that. So, you know, you if you buy a t shirt, we'll ship it to you for free. Just, you know, just just just hit us up with some money. That's all we ask for. Money, money and love.

Rob:

Yeah. All right, everybody. Thank you very much, and bye. Bye.

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