Get Under to Get Over

Emily has had a crush on a much younger guy for over 3 years now.  They’ve kept in touch over text, but have never managed to meet up - until now.  This young guy wants to see Emily on Friday, much to her excitement and fear.  Sage shares her theories that this guy could be gay or a virgin, and also weighs in on the 15 year age gap, the guy’s decisions to play video games instead of calling, and the fact that nothing physical has ever happened between them.

Transcript

Sage (00:12):

For those of you who are just tuning in, I am Sage, here with my best girlfriend, Emily. 

Emily:

Hello!

Sage:

And we're ready to dive into this episode, typically talking about relationships, sex, dating, and in general, what that all looks like being divorced in our forties.

Emily (00:31):

Yeah. Yeah. So we've gone through it all. We checked all the boxes and then it all fell apart and we are here living to tell you about it. So tune in weekly on Tuesdays.

Sage (00:42):

Yes, we drop on Tuesdays.

Emily (00:44):

Yes.

Sage (00:44):

So this week we also learned that the dudes really love our podcast.

Emily (00:50):

Yes, they do. Which it was not meant for them. This was meant for the ladies. We were supposed to be like, Hey, single ladies. And all of a sudden the dudes are like, hi, hi, hi, hi. Which I guess is not that surprising, but we welcome you…

Sage:

Of course.

Emily:

To the conversation.

Sage (01:05):

Yes. 

Emily:

We'd love to hear from you. 

Sage:

And what we're finding is that the dudes love hearing our input because they want to know what we're thinking about behind those closed doors that no one talks about. 

Emily (01:17):

Yes. And Sage and I bear it all. As those of you who have been listening know, we do not hold back. So men, if you have a question for us and you're curious what's on our mind, shoot us a note.

Sage (01:26):

Comments.

Emily (01:26):

Send us a DM on Instagram, do a comment. We have a website: watchmedoitpodcast.com. You can contact us there. And as always, please don't forget to subscribe so that you never miss an episode and share it with all of your friends who you think will have fun with this too. 

Sage (01:43):

Thanks for all the love around the world and from our special dudes. 

Emily:

Yeah.

Sage:

Keep it going.

Emily:

Let's go. 

Sage:

So today we're going to talk about a relationship, which I don't know if we should call it that.

Emily (01:56):

It's a relationship. It's a relationship.

Sage (02:00):

 But it's not a physical relationship.

Emily (02:01):

No. No. It's a very odd relationship. It doesn't really fit in any box at all.

Sage (02:07):

No. Because you don't have any physical contact.

Emily (02:10):

No. And it took you months to kinda, and I think you're still grappling, as am I…

Sage (02:15):

To internalize all of this.

Emily (02:16):

Over what is happening with this individual. Okay. So let me take a step back. One of the questions. So this is Emily and I recently moved to Los Angeles from the East Coast, and I get the question a lot from everybody out here, why did you move to LA? Why did you move to LA? And it's kind of a hard question to answer because I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure what I'm doing here other than this awesome podcast with my bestie Sage.

Sage (02:40):

You needed a scenery change. 

Emily:

I was ready.  I was ready.

Sage:

Yeah, you were in Boston, what, 23 years?

Emily (02:44):

Something like that.

Sage (02:46):

We’re done.

Emily (02:47):

And I outgrew it.  And I love Boston. We had this conversation the other day. No hate on Boston. Beautiful city. Everybody go visit. I love my peeps back there. I have a big community, but I just outgrew it. I just needed something. I'm a big city girl. I was dreaming about it, but I didn't know I was dreaming about it until this individual kind of came along and walked into my life. So people say, okay, so you moved to LA for work. And I'm like, ehhhh.

Sage:

Not really.

Emily:

Kind of? Kind of.  I mean that's kind of the most relatable story was sure, we were all remote and I was working for this company and they were kind of headquartered here, but we were remote, whatever, whatever.  Then they're like, oh, you moved here for a guy. And I'm like, not…it's the same kind of thing, like kind of? 

Sage:

Not exactly. 

Emily:

Like I didn't chase after him. I'm still not chasing after him. But there is an individual by the name of Andrew who I met back in Boston three years ago. So this is a long, long history now. Especially for me.

Sage (03:47):

Long time to have no physical contact.  That’s crazy.

Emily (03:48):

And I'm like one night stand girl where I'm like one, done, bye, whatever. I am not even dating anymore because it's just too much of a pain in the ass. So the fact that I'm still interested in whatever talking to this person, I think is kind of interesting. Three years. 

Sage:

Agreed. Yeah.

Emily:

Literally three years. I met him three years ago at the dog park in Boston, and…

Sage (04:11):

You're still very enthusiastic about the potential.

Emily (04:14):

Yes

Sage:

Which is wild to me. 

Emily:

It has not waned at all.

Sage (04:17):

I would never wait three years.

Emily (04:20):

Well, I'm not waiting. I think so. I think a lot of my friends back home are going to all be triggered by this episode and they're going to be like, Emily, what the fuck? What are you doing? Because they all hate him. And they're like, stop, stop, stop. But the thing is, I can't stop. So when you told all of our lovely listeners in episode one that I went through this town whore phase and you first met me, I was hooking up with every dude. 

Sage:

Yes.

Emily:

And admittedly I was, but it was because I was trying so hard to get over this guy.

Sage (04:51):

To get under to get over.

Emily (04:53):

Exactly.

Sage (04:53):

Yeah.

Emily (04:54):

That's what they say. They say in order to get over somebody, go have sex with somebody else. Right?

Sage (04:58):

Right.

Emily (04:58):

And then you'll be distracted and you'll fall for somebody else and then you won't even think about the other person.

Sage (05:03):

But it didn't work.

Emily (05:04):

It does not work. It does not work. Because there's some men, and I don't know what it is, and guys, our listener, male listeners out there, we know it goes the other way too. There's some people in this world that just kind of get under your skin.  And they just get in you.

Sage (05:18):

Right.

Emily (05:18):

And you can't shake them and you don't know why. And it's like you think about them, they’re in your dreams.

Sage (05:25):

But this is getting under your skin in a good way.

Emily (05:31):

is it?  There's been times where I've been like, okay, I need to move on. This is kind of unhealthy. But then other times I'm like, when I was defending myself the other night at dinner with one of our girlfriends, I was like, it's not hurting anybody. It's not like I'm not going out or meeting other people or he's hurting me. In fact, it's the opposite. 

Sage:

Well, you still get giddy and you get butterflies if he texts you. 

Emily:

Well, he lifts me up. He’s so supportive. He says exactly what I need to hear.  He’s at my fingertips every time. If I reach out to him, it doesn't matter what day or night, what time it is. The other night it was 12:30. It was not a “you up” text. It was not like that. Because as Sage has mentioned, or not really, it's not like a physical hookup thing. It was more like I wanted to say hi. And he texted me back instantly.  And he makes me laugh. And it's like the world is a brighter place when we talk.

Sage (06:27):

Right. So now that you guys have this great chemistry talking…

Emily (06:32):

Yeah.

Sage (06:32):

What's it going to be like when you physically see him?

Emily (06:35):

Well, we had the great chemistry in person. So this is a guy, like I said, I met in real life and I wasn't paying attention at all. It was winter in Boston. It was almost exactly three years ago. So it was December 2021, and I had snot running all down my face because, you know, it’s sniffle season. I wear this big embarrassing white, I look like a marshmallow. It's like a big parka, you know.

Sage:

Puffer jacket. 

Emily:

It's like in New England, you're not dressed to look good. You're dressed to stay warm.

Sage (07:03):

Right.

Emily (07:04):

And I have this stupid hat on, which is probably good. It probably got rid of all my wrinkles or whatever or mask them. And I'm paying attention because I have this little dog. My little dog that we've talked about, I had just gotten him, it was two months. So we're running around the park and I'm very much a helicopter mom, hovering, because I don't know if I trust him. And he was still a puppy. so he's running around like crazy. So I'm not paying attention at all to this guy who's talking to me and trying to show me things on his phone and blah, blah, blah. And I'm like, and then I finally turn and look at him and I'm like, oh!

Sage:

Oh, hey hottie. 

Emily:

I'm like, oh hey. Oh, ooh, ahh. And then I'm wiping the snots and I'm like, shit, what do I do? What do I say? And we chat. And then he takes his dog and he's like, goodnight. And he walks away and I'm like, oh my God, where are you going? Oh shit. I didn't get the phone number. I didn't get anything and I had to go back to work that night. And so I sit down at my computer and my hands were literally shaking. 

Sage:

Really? 

Emily:

Yes.

Sage (08:03):

Wow.

Emily (08:04):

I was like butterflies explosion. 

Sage:

So first interaction. 

Emily:

First interaction. I've had a massive crush on this guy since that interaction. And I told my therapist about him and she was coaching me through this whole thing and I was just like, there's got to be something wrong with him. There's got to be something. Is he a Mormon? So he doesn't drink and we're just incompatible. I love Mormons. I have a lot of friends who are Mormons, but if you're not going to go out for a drink with me, it's not going to work. Then I thought he might be gay which I know that's your theory.

Sage (08:33):

Yes it is.  He’s a coward who can't fuck and he's gay. Wait, but let's bring up the real subject of what the boundaries are.

Emily (08:42):

Well, like what happened…

Sage (08:44):

 It's the age gap, girl.

Emily (08:45):

Well, okay. So to continue on the story, the universe sent me tons of layups with this guy. I ran into him in a bar randomly. I saw him again at the dog park. And so it was kind of inevitable that we would exchange numbers and it was just from that moment. So that took a couple months of just seeing him around and then he asked for my number, and then it was like game on, right? Texting, texting, texting. It's been like that ever since. And yeah, I was racking my brain of something has got to be wrong. This guy is legitimately my dream man, legitimately in flesh and blood walks this planet. I'm like, oh my God. He exists. Then as we're getting to know each other, and then of course I'm stalking. Yes, Big K I looked him up. I stalked him a lot.

Sage (09:29): 

Well then you would stalk by walking past his place slowly with your little dog.

Emily (09:33):

Yeah. 

Sage (09:34):

Hoping that he would come out the door with his dog.

Emily (09:36):

I know. I did. I walked way out of my way. I was even one winter, I was even doing snow angels in front of his house. I was trying to have my John Cusack moment where he has the stereo and he is like, hello, come listen to me. You know? Yeah, no, I did that. Yeah, I even did that out here in LA.

Sage (09:51):

Ok, little stalker.

Emily (09:51):

I know, but I learned that this individual is 15 years younger than I am.

Sage (09:58):

So when you were learning to drive, he was learning to walk.

Emily (10:01):

Yes.

Sage (10:01):

Wow. It's a big gap. 

Emily (10:03):

That's a big gap. But then I proceeded to get very angry because men date women younger than them all the time and it's not an issue,

Sage (10:11):

Right.

Emily (10:12):

A man can date someone who's 15 or 20 years younger.

Sage (10:15):

But it looks weird for a woman to do it.

Emily (10:16):

All the celebrities who are our age, all the actors who are in their early forties and they're like the bachelor's. I mean look at fucking Leonardo DiCaprio. He is memes about 'em because they can date… 

Sage (10:25):

20 year olds,

Emily (10:26):

Yeah, people that are way younger than them. But as a woman who's the older one, I feel very odd about it.

Sage (10:34):

It's like an insecurity that we shouldn't be feeling. If they can do it, why can’t we do it?

Emily (10:36):

I'm very insecure about it. I'm just sitting here being like, he would rather be with a young girl. I can't go to his 30th birthday party. How shameful that he would, that I would show up as the girlfriend.

Sage (10:51):

We just talked about cougars though. 

Emily:

I know.

Sage:

So you need to re-own that episode. It was episode six, right? 

Emily:

Yeah. I think it was the one before this, yeah?

Sage:

Yeah.  And how the dad wants us and the son wants us, and we have two to tango with and embracing that we're hot in our mid forties and we know how to have sex. 

Emily:

I know.

Sage:

Men are very curious about that.

Emily (11:11):

Big K did say that the younger dudes do want an older woman, but I'm just really struggling with this one. I just get really, and you know me, I'm super confident. I know what I have. I own it. I flaunt it. I'm good with it. But there's something about him. I'm just like, oh yeah, no, I'm not good enough. I am too old. I’m like wraggly. I even told him I looked frumpy and he was like, I would never call you a frumpy. Remember he said that to me?  He’s so cute.

Sage (11:34):

Yes, yes. But then I brought up to you last night, you know, don't rob him the chance of having a family, kids and a wife. And not feeling super sure his family is going to be open to this age gap at 15 years.

Emily (11:49):

I know, I know.  No, I mean, what family would? I mean, if you're not a guy.  This way, if you're the guy and you're dating a woman 15 years older than you, I can't imagine any parents…

Sage (11:56):

Right.

Emily:

That would be cool with it. I mean, unless his parents are super cool, which they might.

Sage:

They might.

Emily:

I don't know. He's rad. So maybe his parents are rad, who knows. But yeah, I've thought about that a lot too, of he's on the track of like, okay, you have to meet somebody and settle down and get married and buy the house and have kids. And we did that. 

Sage:

Right.

Emily:

Both of us did that. 

Sage:

We're done. 

Emily:

I mean, I did not have kids, but we did that path. We were like, okay, this is what you're supposed to do when you're in your early to mid thirties.

Sage (12:22):

Right.

Emily (12:23):

And I am past that.

Sage (12:25):

So am I.

Emily (12:26):

And he's just beginning,

Sage (12:27):

Right, so you have to allow him that opportunity. I mean, listen, if you care about him this much, you don't want to rob him of it.

Emily (12:33):

No.  If he wants it.

Sage (12:34):

And obviously this is a conversation way down the road. You guys have not even had any physical contact yet.

Emily (12:41):

I know.

Sage (12:41):

This is a very far off conversation that the two of you have to have.

Emily (12:44):

Oh my God, if it even happens.

Sage:

Right.

Emily:

If it even happens.

Sage (12:46):

So I need you to just go and see him. This is the part about you embracing what Big K and I tell you, be assertive.

Emily (12:55):

I know.

Sage (12:56):

That ball is in your court too.

Emily (12:57):

I know.

Sage (12:58):

And I need you to go see him, to know is this just my pen pal?

Emily (13:02):

I know.

Sage (13:02):

Or is this more?

Emily (13:04):

We've got to rip the bandaid. And I even gave you that advice that that's another way I think to get over somebody. Right? So we've tried to, okay, meet new people.

Sage:

Sleep with them.

Emily:

Sleep with them, have fun, date, and eventually someone will distract you and you'll be like, oh, look at this guy. It has not worked. We're three years into this thing. 

Sage:

Sure.  So what's the second plan? 

Emily:

The second plan is like, okay, maybe I do go see him because maybe he is just this fantasy built up in my head, which I also think a lot about. And is he even real or is this some AI bot that's fucking with me? And he's not even a real person. He's just somebody that I dreamed up.

Sage:

No, you met him in real life in Boston. 

Emily

I know, but he's real unfortunately.

Sage (13:48):

Here's the other point you need to bring up. He did stand you up a few times back in Boston.

Emily (13:52):

Exactly. So there's a reason why we have not seen each other in almost three years. So I think the last time I saw him was February of 2022, and then it was like ships in the night. I left for Miami for six weeks. When I got home, he had to go to Hawaii for two weeks. Then finally he's like, alright, dinner drinks Sunday night, let's do it. I'm like, great. Yeah, it's finally going to happen. I felt like then I had been waiting forever. It had been months since I had met him. And then he canceled, but he forgot. Basically I had to be like, hello?

Sage (14:31):

What was his excuse?  Verbatim.

Emily (14:31):

He didn't feel well, but it was obvious that it was an excuse. So with this guy, his excuses grow their own excuses. It's like excuse after excuse, after excuse after excuse. 

Sage (14:43):

How many times has he stood you up?

Emily (14:44):

Twice.

Sage (14:45):

Okay. And then after the second one, you blew up on him.

Emily (14:48):

The second. Well, no, it’s elongated. So it's after that first one, which was in Boston. I didn't talk to him. I was like, fuck you. I was totally like, you know what? You're an asshole. It was like, oops. Oh, I thought I texted you. I'm not feeling good today. Which was obvious bullshit. Something else was going on and I was like, fuck off, whatever. And then…

Sage:

Coward move.

Emily:

We didn't talk for two or three months and then he reached back out and we kept in touch. And that's when I found out that he was moving to LA and I was devastated. I was like, oh my God, that's it. I was like, he's moving to the other side of the country.

Sage (15:22):

And as you're watching him move, it's giving you the enthusiasm of maybe I should try this too.

Emily (15:29):

Yeah. So work put LA on the radar. Even though, like I said, I was remote. And then this guy who I'm close to, it's odd because we're close friends in a weird way.  And it’s someone I care about.

Sage (15:43):

In a pen pal way.

Emily (15:44):

And somebody I really admire. I admire this person so much. And I saw him go after his dreams. I saw him pick up, move across the country and have this great life out here and start over and build this life. And I was jealous. And he was sending me all these pictures and talking about his life out here. And I was like, I want to do that. If he can do it, I can do it. And he was very supportive and he was very excited for me to go out there. And so when people are like, oh, did you move here for a guy? I'm like, no. And I wouldn't even say I moved here because of a guy, but it helped. He inspired and kind of encouraged me to make this leap. And then when I got here, he was like very MIA.

Sage (16:31):

It's also super weird that you don't talk on the phone.

Emily (16:35):

No.

Sage:

I mean all of my dudes... 

Emily:

That's part of his excuses. He's like, oh, I would FaceTime you, but he's, he's a video gamer. Don't judge, audience.  He's a gamer. 

Sage (16:45):

They're all video gamers at all ages.

Emily (16:47):

I  know.  I know, I know.

Sage:

It doesn’t matter.

Emily:

I know it doesn't. But so he wears the stupid headset thing, and so he's texting me, this is ridiculous. I'm dating a child. I'm not even dating him. Oh my God, I didn't even realize I said that.

Sage (16:59):

But that 15 year gap, I would say is why he's playing video games. But no, they do it at age 45, 50.

Emily (17:04):

No, no exactly. And honestly, I got over the age gap. So this is part of the story is that I started to distance myself when I realized how young he was. And I was like, oh my God, I can't do this. It's like you said, he's a baby. I was already having sex by the time he was in diapers. You know?  And so I can't do this. I can't do this. And so I kind of friend zoned him and moved away. And then my whole group was like, who cares? Age is just a number. And I've even recently asked one of my single male friends in his fifties. I literally was like, when you were in your twenties, how old would you go? What was your range? He didn't understand the question. So I didn't get a good answer. But people seem to not care. They were kind of like, age is just a number. It doesn't matter. I'm very youthful, I think? Like people are always shocked, because we’re not these sit at home and be bored and our life is over, 40 somethings like midlife, boring, blah. We are still living our lives more so I think than people, some people in their twenties. We are young souls and young at heart. And I think that's part of why he and I have connected is because we are kind of on that same level. And then I also told myself exactly what you just said. I've dated guys in their fifties. I've dated guys in their forties. I've dated guys in their thirties and I've dated guys in their twenties. And they're all the same. 

Sage:

Oh, they're all the same. It doesn't matter. 

Emily (18:24):

Same maturity. Remember Mr. B plus? He is the worst.

Sage (18:24):

Oh yeah.

Emily (18:26):

I think he's 60 and he's like, he does not have his shit together at all. And Andrew has his shit together a lot. It's part of my attraction to him.

Sage (18:33):

No matter their age, they're very needy.

Emily (18:34):

Yeah, they’re still little boys.

Sage (18:36):

They are. They're insecure.

Emily (18:38):

They're very insecure.

Sage (18:40):

And they just want to be patted on the back. It's okay. Yes. You're handsome still.

Emily (18:44):

Yeah, like little puppy dogs.  Like good job boy, good boy, pet pet pet, here’s your treat.

Sage (18:45):

Yeah exactly. Here's your treat my vagina. 

Emily:

Exactly. 

Sage:

Good job.

Emily (18:52):

Good job. I know, I know. But so yeah, so I don't know. It's always been in the back of my mind of how he would react, especially not seeing me for three years. And we've both aged three years, but he's in his prime. And I mean, I would actually argue that I'm at my prime too. So maybe, but - 

Sage (19:12):

Cougars are totally in their prime.

Emily (19:14):

I know. And honestly, when I see pictures of me when I was married, I look way better now. Way better. 

Sage (19:19):

It's way better sex for women, late thirties, early forties.

Emily (19:22):

Well, we're so much more confident we don't give a fuck. 

Sage:

Right.

Emily:

But I also think I take care of myself now when in my marriage I did not at all. 

Sage:

Yes, you didn't have to. You're already settled. 

Emily:

I looked like crap all the time with a bad haircut.

Sage:

So did I.

Emily:

You think my style is bad now? Oh my god, Sage. You should have seen me back in Boston. Married.  Oof.

Sage:

You'll have to show me some photos later. 

Emily:

I had bangs.

Sage (19:44):

You had bangs.

Emily (19:46):

Are you surprised by that? 

Sage:

Not really. No. 

Emily:

No. But they were so bad. When I look at these pictures, I'm like, oh my God. So I've gotten better with age. Like a nice fine wine. 

Sage:

Ooo, yeah, that's sexy. 

Emily:

I'm a nice fine wine. And we'll see if the 29-year-old wants the wine or if he's still doing, what is that? Peppermint schnapps shots. McGinty's, whatever the hell they drink now. I don't know.

Sage (20:11):

So as of now.

Emily:

Yes.

Sage:

Today's Wednesday.

Emily (20:15):

Correct.

Sage (20:16):

And maybe Friday in two days.

Emily (20:19):

He would like to see me on Friday.

Sage (20:23):

Okay. Make it happen. 

Emily (20:23):

And he put it in my court.

Sage (20:25):

I want assertive Emily.

Emily (20:27):

Yes.

Sage (20:28):

Okay. Get out of your shell.

Emily (20:29):

Who doesn't give a fuck.

Sage:

Yes.

Emily:

Who’s not terrified and wanting to throw up.

Sage (20:33):

Yes.  And if you want to kiss him, kiss him, go in for it.

Emily (20:35):

I want to kiss him. Are you kidding? I want to kiss him. I've been fantasizing about kissing him for three years. 

Sage (20:37):

Yeah, but what if you meet up with him and you're like, dork squad. What was I thinking? 

Emily:

Well, he is a dork. He's adorable. 

Sage:

But it could go the other direction, like what was I thinking? 

Emily:

I know. 

Sage:

So this fantasy will either be broken or you're just going to elaborate on it.

Emily (20:51):

Honestly, there's so many things that could happen. A: he could cancel again. 

Sage:

Right.

Emily:

And then we have to decide is he dead to me or not? Because that's three times, three years. Like bro, and I've thought this too. Why do we talk? What's the purpose of this? 

Sage:

Yeah. What's the point? 

Emily:

What is the point? I don't, don't get it. Except that I do get, I get a lot of enjoyment out of it. So he could cancel again. It could suck. I could be like, whoa, this is him. I don't think that's going to happen. But it's possible. We could totally hit it off. And boom, fantasy is reality. But then all those terrifying things come about of like, oh my God, is this a real relationship? Is this a thing? Is this the age gap? Blah, blah, blah, blah. So it's almost like I don't want that to happen. Or maybe we're just good friends. Maybe we have a really nice time and…

Sage (21:34):

I'm excited for the adventure.

Emily (21:35):

Maybe he's bad in bed.

Sage (21:37):

And then that's a no go.

Emily (21:37):

Well, we talked about this that I can train him.

Sage (21:40):

That's true.  Yeah, the training…

Emily (21:41):

It's a plus. 

Sage:

Yup. 

Emily:

I can just tell him exactly what I want to do. And if he follows directions, then we're okay.

Sage (21:47):

I wonder how many people he’s slept with, if any.

Emily (21:50):

He's not a virgin. There's no way. He's very charming and he has a lot of charisma and he's very attractive. There's no way.

Sage (21:56):

Okay.

Emily (21:57):

No, no.

Sage (21:58):

I need you to find out.

Emily (21:58):

He's definitely not a virgin. And he's definitely not gay because if he were, we would've had coffee six times by now and it would've not been a big deal. 

Sage:

No.

Emily:

But there's this tension and there's the little tingle in the vagina, which you do not get with people who are not, you don't have that chemistry and that pull.

Sage:

Right.

Emily:

That magnetism. 

Sage:

So, okay, so Friday will be the big day. 

Emily:

I will do my part.

Sage (22:24):

Yes.

Emily (22:25):

I promise you and Big K, I will be assertive. We're going to give this a try. I'm terrified.

Sage (22:31):

No.

Emily (22:32):

Because I feel like I have a lot to lose.

Sage (22:33):

Own it.

Emily (22:34):

And he's, he's going to have to…

Sage (22:37):

You already own it because of that age gap.

Emily (22:39):

I know.  I’ve gotta…

Sage (22:40):

You just follow through now.

Emily (22:42):

I’ve got to tell him. I think he wants to just be told what to do and not have to think.

Sage (22:47):

Probably.

Emily (22:48):

Probably.

Sage (22:48):

It's easier for them.

Emily (22:50):

Because he’s dropping hints and I'm picking them up and he's done that before and I haven't done anything about it.

Sage (22:56):

Okay, so the ball's in your court. It's your turn.

Emily (22:59):

It's my turn. So.

Sage (23:01):

Alright, so Friday night it is. A number of things could happen and our listeners will just have to tune in next time to find out how Emily's date with Andrew went. 

Emily:

We drop on Tuesdays. 

Sage:

Yes. And we wish Emily the best of luck. 

Emily:

Thank you. 

Sage:

You're welcome. 

Emily:

I need it. 

Sage:

In the meantime, send us a message if you have had the experience of getting under to get over. Has it worked for you?

Emily (23:30):

I would love to know.

Sage (23:31):

Yeah, because it hasn't worked for Emily and I.

Emily (23:32):

And like how? Because it just doesn't work. 

Sage (23:33):

Thanks for listening. 

Emily:

Thanks everybody.

Sage:

And cheers. Have a great night. 

Emily (23:40):

Help me. Help you. Godspeed.

Sage:

Bye!

Emily:

Bye!