Discharge Day

In celebration of Sage landing a new job, the girls reflect on their recent employment and unemployment situations - from Emily's firing that inspired the launch of this podcast to Sage debating how much mascara to wear without pissing off female bosses.  While they're still not sure how to balance the need to make money, and the endless hustle to survive, with passion and purpose; they do recognize that being released from a terrible job or toxic situation is a lot like discharging gross things from all of the holes in your body.  

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Transcript

Sage (00:15):

Hello, Watch Me Do It, Crew. How are you? Happy St. Patty's Day. We are here recording, of course, on the Westside, Santa Monica, and we are here today to banter a bit about work and the stresses of finding jobs that are permanent.

Emily (00:39):

And stable and not toxic as fuck.

Sage (00:41):

Correct. Yes.

Emily (00:42):

Where they treat us with respect and the value that we deserve as very smart and savvy young women.

Sage (00:48):

That we are. Yep.

Emily:

We are. 

Sage:

And so there's a lot between Emily and I that we have in common here in Los Angeles about work and the falls and the ins and outs of disappointment. Of excitement. Today is an exciting day for Sage because I did land a job finally after a hundred fucking interviews.

Emily (01:13):

Fuck yeah, girl.

Sage (01:14):

And no nos or just applying and being ignored. And so here on St. Patty's Day, we're sitting with champagne and we do have something fun to talk about for the fact that I got work, but also on the other end how much it fucking sucks too, because it's really hard to land a job out here.

Emily (01:31):

Well, this was honestly the reason why we started this podcast. 

Sage (01:36):

That's right. Yep.

Emily (01:36):

It started because I got this job. If everybody remembers, I got a job up in the Valley and that's when I bought my car and I thought I was settled here in Los Angeles, and I was driving up and back and down the commute from the Westside to the Valley, and I would call Sage here. Well, actually Sage would call me. She was like chomping at the bit because this place was like a reality…

Sage (01:55):

Full of drama.

Emily (01:55):

TV show.

Sage (01:56):

Yes.

Emily (01:57):

The best you would ever see. We should still do that. We should still write it down and make a boatload of money off them and be like, fuck you motherfuckers. You know? But anyway, so we would do the gossip, what happened at work today, gossip, and of course there were men involved, but we'll save that for another day because today we're talking about work. But yeah. And then after nine weeks, they fired me because I was quote unquote too nice.

Sage (02:21):

No, no, no, no. Didn’t they say that they were going to restructure?  It’s such an excuse.

Emily (02:25):

Restructuring, but I was the only role that they eliminated.

Sage (02:30):

Right.

Emily (02:30):

So they did that to cross the T's of their HR box, you know, to make sure that everything was kosher and cozy. And I was like, they weren't going to get sued.

Sage (02:38):

How are you going to restructure when you get rid of one fucking person?

Emily (02:41):

One role, one role. But what happened is I took over for the VP of Operations who was the nephew of the CEO, and he actually got super uncomfortable because I was changing his work and I was better than he was, and I was smarter than he was. And he basically said, you know what, uncle? I want my job back. And so that day when I was driving home and I was bawling my eyes out, and then I was angry because they made me cry. I was like, oh, you don't make me cry. And they made me cry. And so I was more angry that I was upset and crying than I was at the actual job loss. The job loss felt like I was getting freed from prison.

Sage (03:15):

Well, the thing is…

Emily:

And I said to you -

Sage:

Yes.

Emily (03:16):

I said, I was like, we're doing this fucking podcast.

Sage (03:18):

It was,

Emily (03:19):

We want to talk about these motherfucking men and we want to share our stories with the world.

Sage (03:25):

Yup.  On that day that Emily called, it was confirmed that we were going to move ahead and start the podcast and turn over that new leaf that we had kept talking about and didn't take action.

Emily (03:36):

Yes, yeah.

Sage (03:37):

Until you were like, I have the fucking free time to put all of our a hundred percent effort into this. Let's do it. So due to Emily's tragedy, so to speak, here we are, and it's been, I dunno, nine months, eight months.

Emily (03:52):

Oh my God. No. Six months. Well,

Sage (03:55):

No, October will be our one year.

Emily (03:57):

From when we launched.

Sage:

Right.

Emily (03:59):

So I lost my job in July. I had to grieve it. You always have to grieve. We've talked about this a lot actually on the podcast, is that a job loss is trauma. And I think we don't give ourselves that credit, but it's a huge loss when you lose the job. It's like your stability. It's your income, it's your future. There's so much tied into a job. It's your work wives,  

Sage:

Your livelihood!  Your livelihood!

Emily:

And your work husbands.  And your livelihood and your ability to provide for others and your friends. And it is very shaming, especially in my situation. And you've had these similar experiences where it’s, it's an act of shame that you lost a job. And in my case, I got fired twice in four months, and it was very targeted both times. It was lost a job twice, and that's when I was just like, I got to go in for myself.

Sage (04:41):

What I gather hearing all of your different stories of how you lost a job and whatever occurred, it always ends up being the fact that these men are so threatened by you, and that's why you're fucking canned. It's not because you're not capable. It's not because you're not smart enough, good enough. They're fucking threatened.

Emily (04:59):

And for your situation. Well, yes, I totally agree. And it took me a long time to kind of believe that and admit it. Because I didn't want to be one of those raging feminist chicks that's like, oh, I'm discriminated against. I wanted to be like, no, I'm fair. It's fair, blah, blah, blah. But you're right. But in your case, it's the same thing. But the women were threatened by you because you've been fired by women who know that it's like you're more capable. You're better than they are. And your work situations are very intimate.

Sage (05:27):

They are, yes.

Emily (05:27):

Because you’re within the family.

Sage (05:28):

Yes, I'm in the home.

Emily (05:29):

You're in the home.

Sage (05:30):

Even when I interview, this is how stupid it is. It's like, should I put mascara and makeup on, or am I going to be threatening to that woman? 

Emily:

Exactly. 

Sage:

I don't want to be too pretty. 

Emily:

Can't be too pretty. 

Sage:

And I hate to be like,

Emily:

But then you can't be ugly either. 

Sage:

Right. And I don't want to be boastful of any kind, like, oh, I'm so hot. But it's almost like to dress down and just be so professional and not be a threat to that woman, or for her to be like, oh, is my husband going to like her?  Like it’s that fucking catty. And I'm like, I'm just here to do a job, make money. I've got kids to support.

Emily (06:03):

Exactly. And that's the thing is we would just show up and do the job. We would stay away from the drama. We would just show up and do the best job that we could. And yet it's like,

Sage:

Never enough. 

Emily:

Never enough. They couldn't handle it. We still got fired. So when I lost this job, gang, we coined the term because we were trying to think about, us and another girlfriend, we're like, okay, how do we describe this? And it was literally as we were talking, we were like, you know, it's like you're discharging something from your body. So you get discharged from the hospital. Right? We were starting to think about hospitals because that's how it felt.

Sage (06:36):

No, I think discharge in my underwear.

Emily (06:38):

Yeah. Discharge. It's always something that you're expelling. It's like you're vomiting, you're discharging the night before. You're shitting, you're discharging something that didn't settle well with your stomach.

Sage (06:48):

Sure.

Emily (06:49):

Okay, you discharge in your vage, sure. 

Sage:

Yeah.

Emily:

Every woman does, come on. We admit it. Sometimes it smells raunchy, but whatever. But when you get discharged from the hospital or you get discharged, it's like they're letting you go. But it's a release. It's usually a good thing.  Like after you puke, if you don't feel good, and then you puke and then all of a sudden you feel better because you got rid of all that nasty shit. And that's exactly, so we call this discharge day. When you get fired, it's actually like you're just releasing yourself and your environment and your life from something that was not a good fit.

Sage (07:21):

So while it feels really good in that aspect of being discharged, so to speak, but also it's hurtful and it’s scary.

Emily (07:28):

Well, that's the shame aspect. Well, it's really scary. 

Sage:

Yeah.  Very.

Emily:

Yeah.  It's very, very scary. For sure.

Sage (07:34):

That's your money, that's your life. That's your rent, that's your food.

Emily (07:36):

It's everything.  It’s everything.

Sage (07:37):

Yeah.

Emily (07:37):

And for me in particular, it was really shameful because I had already posted on social media. I went home to Boston, I said all my goodbyes. I was like, I'm officially moving to California. I bought this new car with this very expensive - the car insurance here is obscene. And then literally nine weeks later, I was like, walk of shame back home to Boston. Like what do I do? I remember that dick who thought he was my friend at my work, and he was like, oh, guess you have to return the car now.

Sage (08:00):

What a fucking prick. 

Emily:

Fucking asshole. 

Sage:

And she still has the same car.

Emily (08:04):

Yes, I do. I love my BMW.

Sage:

And she has figured it out. 

Emily:

I'm never going to, I was like, are you kidding? This is the best thing that's happened to me. 

Sage:

Right.

Emily:

That's the thing. You take the good things with you out of the job. So I got a really good girlfriend out of it, and I got a brand new BMW.  I can't complain. And I got rid of the toxic, and my friends are still there, and they're miserable. 

Sage:

Yup.

Emily:

Every day. Can you imagine if I was still commuting to the valley every day?

Sage (08:22):

No. 

Emily:

No. 

Sage:

It wasn't worth it.

Emily (08:24):

No.

Sage (08:25):

The pay wasn't even that great. I mean, it was good, but - 

Emily:

It was good. 

Sage:

It wasn't the best.

Emily:

Not worth it.

Sage:

It wasn't the best.

Emily (08:31):

It's not worth it. And this is when your last discharge, you manifested it.

Sage (08:36):

Oh yeah. I was like, I'm done.

Emily (08:39):

Because it was time to go.

Sage (08:40):

Yeah.

Emily (08:40):

It was time for something better. But you freaked out though.

Sage (08:43):

Oh, I did because it's been since December. We're now in March, and so I've been missing - you know, I have a couple clients, three to four typically always in motion. And so when I'm missing one biggie, that's my chunk of change. And it's been since December. So yeah, I was sweating a little bit, but today I got hired by one and hopefully another next week. I'm still - 

Emily:

It’s good to have options. 

Sage:

Yep. I'm still trying to fill the basket. And don't put in one effort into it. 

Emily:

No.

Sage:

It's got to be multiple.

Emily (09:18):

I think that's the key. That's the key. And I think that era is over too, right now, because everybody's getting laid off. Everything's unstable. Nobody can trust anybody these days. And so I think it's like you've got to have multiple projects. You've got to have multiple nest eggs. You got to take care of yourself first and not just be like, okay, I am just going to get this one job and be happy forever. It’s like men. It's the same thing. 

Sage (09:44):

You're right. You're right. I like that analogy. And the other thing is that because I am divorced and I'm single and one income doesn't cut it. 

Emily:

No. 

Sage:

You need multiple, hence why I have three to four jobs or three to four clients at a time. Unless you and I, Emily move in and split rent.

Emily (10:02):

The Golden Girls era is still coming. 

Sage (10:03):

Yes.

Emily (10:05):

Don't worry fans.

Sage:

Please. 

Emily:

We'll send you pictures.

Sage (10:07):

It actually would financially be very sound of us to do so.

Emily (10:11):

Well, except here's the thing, you know me, I'm too bougie. 

Sage:

True. 

Emily:

If I'm going to upgrade out of my little studio, I'm going to get some pad that we can't afford anyway even if we split it.

Sage (10:21):

I'll be like, Emily…

Emily (10:22):

So we’ll still be broke.

Sage (10:23):

Yeah. I'll be like, you pay 3K and I'll just do like 1500. Does that work for you?

Emily (10:28):

Remember when I saw that little house in Santa Monica that had the little ADU out back?

Sage (10:31):

Yes!

Emily (10:31):

And you were so happy with that.

Sage (10:32):

Put me in the guest house.

Emily (10:33):

I know, but it got snatched off the market like way too fast.

Sage (10:35):

I know, but that's ideal. Seriously, I want to talk to our listeners about this.  Per household, I mean, it's got to be dual income anymore. I mean, inflation hasn't gone down. Eggs and bread is still like, what, eight bucks? 

Emily:

It’s worse.  It’s worse.

Sage:

Yeah.  And it's not going away. 

Emily:

No. 

Sage:

You know, once they've gotten their money and they're taking it to the fucking high heavens and are like, yes, we can charge for these eggs at this price and bread, they're not going to go back. It's not going to go back down.

Emily (11:05):

No, no, no. It won't go back down. It hopefully will plateau and then the rest of us can kind of catch up.

Sage (11:09):

Sure. But between being a mom and if you're facing daycare costs, preschool costs.

Emily (11:16):

Dude, I'm a dog mom. Doggy daycare is fucking expensive. 

Sage:

Exactly. 

Emily:

It’s ridiculous.

Sage (11:22):

And so again, unless you have a team under one household, under one roof,

Emily (11:28):

Right.

Sage (11:28):

Dual income, it's super fucking hard to make it anymore.  Seriously. 

Emily (11:32):

It is. Even though you know my neighbor, Ryan?  He coined SINK the other day. So DINK is “dual income, no kids”.

Sage:

Okay. 

Emily:

Have you heard that term before? 

Sage:

No, I have not.

Emily:

I knew you wouldn’t. So DINK stands for dual income, no kids. And it's the people that are like, oh, look at how rich we are. We both make 200 grand a year and we have no kids, so we just party. And they don't have dogs. They don't have any responsibilities and everyone is so jealous of them. But underneath it, they're so unhappy and they actually hate each other, but they're doing this fake Instagram, Pinterest perfect DINK thing. Anyway, Ryan goes the other day, well, I don't have a partner, but I'm SINK.  Single income, no kids, but he has a dog. And we just went to the pet store earlier today and I spent $75 on treats and a new leash, so fuck it.

Sage (12:14):

Yeah, that's all it takes.

Emily (12:14):

He's just as bad. It's just as bad.

Sage (12:16):

No, I know. I mean, I just went to the liquor store and I bought two bottles of champagne.

Emily (12:20):

Well, it was well deserved.

Sage (12:21):

I know, but like a hundred dollars later and like a pack of cigarettes.

Emily (12:24):

But you got Lamarca at least. Okay. So the last time we had champagne in the studio friends was when Sage kicked her ex-husband's ass in court, and now she got her child support back. So this is our theme. We have to have champagne.  And I got Laurent Perrier.  

Sage (12:34):

You know what? 2025 so far has been pretty good to me. 

Emily:

Really? 

Sage:

I won the court case.

Emily (12:40):

You did.  Yeah.  

Sage (12:40):

I just got a job.

Emily (12:42):

Okay. All right. I like this perspective.  Way to stay positive.

Sage (12:45):

And I did say to you at one point when I moved back into my apartment after mold,

Emily (12:49):

Yes.

Sage (12:49):

That this year, I could have it all.

Emily (12:51):

That was your New Year’s. We decided not to do resolutions, and instead we're going to just shoot for the stars and have it all. 

Sage:

Yup.

Emily:

Yeah. Okay.

Sage (12:58):

And you have reminded me of that. 

Emily:

I have. 

Sage:

And it keeps me going.

Emily (13:02):

Well, because it's challenging. It's difficult to have it all. It doesn't just happen. You don't just raise your hand and all of a sudden there you have it all on your plate. You got to work for it. 

Sage:

Of course. 

Emily:

And you've worked for it.

Sage (13:13):

I will say this one thing that Los Angeles has given me, even though I hate on it sometimes, sorry guys. After 23 years, it has always given me enough of what I need to survive. We're not rich over here. We're not shopping at Prada, but I've always been given the means to get by and make some good money, but not be super lavish. I'm grateful for that.

Emily (13:41):

And you still have a good time.

Sage (13:42):

Yeah.

Emily (13:42):

You still have a really comfortable, happy life.

Sage (13:44):

What was it? Broke, but living large?

Emily (13:45):

Yes.

Sage (13:46):

Yes.

Emily (13:46):

Yeah. Okay. So that was the last time we talked about work, because Emily here found herself cleaning for a living after being a CEO. That was one of the jobs I got fired from. So discharged from that job, and that's a pretty far way to fall. But what I found is that I actually really, really enjoy it. And in fact, I've kept two cleaning clients. Even though I have real work and meaningful work. I work in AI tech startups now as we've talked to you guys about. And yet, I still, Wednesdays, I still go, and I clean my rich lesbians house because I love them and they love me, and it's unbelievably meditative to just put my headphones in. I clean the shit out of their house. No one bothers me. I feel great. And they hand me a chunk of change when I'm done. I'm like, great, thanks.

Sage (14:34):

Super easy.

Emily (14:34):

And half the time I'm like, why am I still doing this? Because I can’t fit it into my schedule. Now I have real jobs, but especially on a Wednesday, it's like a nice little break for me.

Sage (14:44):

And I also feel like knowing your personality, they're loyal to you and you will get that back.

Emily (14:49):

Yes.  Yes.  Yeah.

Sage (14:49):

And it's meaningful in that way, even though you think, oh, I'm just cleaning or whatever.

Emily (14:54):

Well, and they're inspirational too because these girls have their shit together. They have a beautiful house up in Nichols Canyon. I love the views. They have a pool. They're living the life. They have two little kids that are kind of little rats, but whatever. It's fine. And so it's inspirational. You're just kind of like, yeah, you go girls, they're living the life. They're living the dream.

Sage (15:13):

Wherever we find work, and that makes us feel good. That's the right work.  You know at this point, it's like when I used to work for an actress model and we're talking like, 

Emily:

I remember that chick.

Sage:

In the Palisades, and it was a revolving door and scary. Once I was there for three months and I had the highest seniority in three months, I was like, something's fucking really off.

Emily (15:38):

Right. That's like my valley job. There was so much turnover. People got fired every week. Every week. So you knew it was your turn.  

Sage (15:43):

So then you know it's not cozy.

Emily (15:45):

You know it's your turn eventually.

Sage (15:46):

You're like a ticking time bomb. When is it my turn? That's not what I want to do again, I want stability. I'm loyal. I was raised in Michigan. I have a very hard work ethic like you do, Emily, you as well.

Emily (16:00):

Yeah. Yeah.

Sage (16:00):

I mean, you're at the sailing center, 

Emily:

You take it seriously.

Sage:

All weekend. All your weekends are given up for work.

Emily (16:05):

I know. I know. Well, I work seven days a week right now, which is stupid.

Sage (16:09):

And they don't even totally pay you what you're worth, but because you love it, they're good to you and you keep showing up.

Emily (16:17):

That to me is another one of these safety net soft landing jobs where I'm not doing it for the money. I'm doing it more because I met cool people. I like it. It's fun. And then, yeah, they throw me some money at the end of the day.

Sage (16:32):

Right. Like you said, you feel safe.

Emily (16:34):

But to your point, there's still sacrifices that come along. And this is, I think whenever we've evaluated jobs, we've struggled with this. And I'm sure a lot of people out there have too. It's like, okay, you want to have your purpose and your passion and the job that you love, where you're paid your worth and you're valued. But again, it's like men. You're not going to check all those boxes. They're not going to be perfect. There's going to be some red flags. And then when is it? Especially when it's like we're unemployed, and this is what happened to me with the Valley job. Because I had just lost my CEO job. It was the first one that came along. It checked all the boxes, but I had so many red flags in the interview. I knew what I was walking into. I knew it. I knew that that was going to be my fate and that was going to be the way it was. I did not predict the reality TV component, but that was actually really fun. Because it was entertaining, and it kept it lighthearted. Because otherwise it would've been awful. I probably would've quit before the nine weeks. But anyway, but then it's like, okay, do you take it because you're broke and you don't want the gap on your resume, and you don't know when the next job offer is going to come along? Or do you hold out and you say no, and then you're broke and you're cleaning houses for longer, but you're holding out for your perfect prince of a job, which may never come.

Sage (17:39):

It is such a weird balance that you can't even predict, obviously what the future is, what's going to come your way or not. 

Emily:

Right.

Sage:

But the effort that you and I put into constantly engaging, resumes, interviews, zoom calls, whatever the fuck, and supporting each other, get it girl. Get it, girl. Let's try again. Don't be defeated. It's going to come at some point. And it has just been that vicious cycle.  Ever since we've met, you and I, it's weird.

Emily (18:09):

It's actually very true. 

Sage:

Yeah. 

Emily:

That's actually, but I will say that we're not alone. I know everybody out there in every State. All my friends, all my former colleagues, they're going through the same thing. And what I would say too is I think one of the things you and I have really learned this past year of this constant struggle and this constant hustle is you've got to give, burnout is real. You've got to give yourself a break. Because you said it's like constant zoom calls, hustling, resumes out, pounding the pavement, blah, blah, blah, blah. And you have to have a hundred job interviews before you get even one, anything. 

Sage:

Exactly.

Emily:

But that burns you out so badly.  You know?

Sage (18:42):

I mean, I've said to you a million times, applying and looking for work is a job itself.

Emily (18:48):

Oh yeah.  Oh yeah.

Sage:

So unless you have like,

Emily:

And it's not a fun one.  It sucks. 

Sage (18:51):

No.

Emily (18:52):

And you get rejected left and right for the stupidest shit too.

Sage (18:55):

You know what bothers me the most is like, here's my resume. But then they're like, oh, go online and fill this out. And it's the same shit on my resume. Where'd you go to school? Who are you currently employed with? Who was your last employer? I'm really redundant again and again. What's your gender? Are you a VA disabled, blah, blah, blah. I mean, I'm so sick of this shit. Look at my resume. Why am I repeating myself on all these,

Emily (19:22):

Because they're lazy and they're using bots and shit like that.

Sage (19:25):

Exactly.

Emily (19:25):

Remember that one job, I just totally forgot about it. It was like way out in the bumble fuck. It was like an hour commute east of Pasadena. And they were going to pay me -

Sage (19:34):

For you or for me?

Emily (19:35):

For me, the one where they were going to pay me $350,000 a year.

Sage (19:37):

Oh, I wanted you to do that one so bad.

Emily (19:39):

I was like, hell no. Look at where I would've had to live.

Sage (19:42):

You would've been so rich.  For 350K?

Emily (19:44):

Not worth it.

Sage (19:44):

I don't know, girl. 

Emily:

Not leaving Venice. Nope. Nope.

Sage:

I would've gone down on your vagina if you had taken that fucking job. 

Emily (19:55):

Says the girl that will not have - don't tell DJ Shrooms. He wants a threesome with you so bad.

Sage (19:57):

Oh my God. Here we go again. That was last episode, sweetie. We're onto something different here.

Emily (20:02):

Just the two of us. We'll kick him out of the room. 

Sage:

Okay. And then you know what? 

Emily:

He can listen to it. He can put a little cup against the door.

Sage (20:09):

You won't have any jealousy tendencies because you know I'm not, I got my own - 

Emily (20:13):

Yeah, it’s just you and I.

Sage (20:13):

Yeah, exactly.

Emily (20:15):

Rolling in our 350K.

Sage (20:16):

I know. So I'm up for another position. Maybe. I have my second interview for 200K. That's tomorrow. 

Emily:

Double six figures. 

Sage:

Second interview.

Emily (20:31):

She's going to rock it, gang. Right, Watch Me Do It fans?

Sage (20:33):

I hope to God.

Emily (20:35):

Give Sage all the juju so that she has multiples. Because then you could be like the people - I used to think down on the people, especially during Covid, where they would have multiple jobs. 

Sage:

Why? 

Emily:

Well, now I am like, yeah.

Sage:

No, but why? 

Emily:

I just thought it was disloyal and not fair that they're taking two jobs while the rest of us have zero. And now I'm like, no, fuck it. You got to. Take 'em all. 

Sage:

Rake ‘em in, rake ‘em in. 

Emily:

Rake ‘em in while you've got 'em. And just do the hustle. You're doing the hustle, anyway?

Sage (20:58):

Yup.

Emily (20:59):

You know, and if they're remote, you can figure it out.  You know?

Sage:

I know. 

Emily

Or just toss one to me. 

Sage:

Exactly. Well, that’s what,

Emily (21:05):

I toss them to you.

Sage:

What you guys don’t know is that Emily and I do toss back and forth clients.

Emily (21:10):

The clients. Yeah.

Sage (21:11):

When Emily's too busy. I mean, wait, elaborate a little bit about your current situation. 

Emily:

Oh my god.  Too many.

Sage:

So Emily's on contract for what, two? Two to three months.

Emily (21:19):

So it took me four -

Sage (21:20):

That’s your biggest paying job.

Emily (21:22):

It took me four months to get the contract that I'm currently on. And the contract that they extended.  My proposal,

Sage (21:28):

It pays well.  

Emily (21:28):

My proposal was a 12 month contract because you can't get anything done in less than six months, maybe. 

Sage:

Agreed. 

Emily:

Would've been my minimum. So I started with 12 months and a high rate, and then thinking that they would counter with six months and a lower rate. They countered with a lower rate, but it wasn't bad. It actually was a tiny bit lower. So I was like, sure. But then they countered with two months and I was like, it just took me four months to close, 

Sage:

To even land it.

Emily:

A two month contract. Like what the fuck? But they're going to extend it, thank God. But I got to hustle my butt and find something because if it's going to take me four months,

Sage (21:59):

Wait, so you did get a final? They're going to extend.

Emily (22:01):

They're talking about it. 

Sage:

Okay. Okay, good. 

Emily:

I go to Seattle next week and we're going to talk about it in person. So it's going to be end of March and the contract ends March 31st. This is like how much of a Hail Mary, but this whole thing came in and as a hail Mary anyway. Because I signed it and sent my first invoice out for the contract the week that my unemployment ran out. So it literally was unemployment dried up and then this contract came in. So I couldn't say no.

Sage (22:26):

But the time aligns for a reason.

Emily:

It does. 

Sage:

Like I just said in LA, I've always gotten what I need. I'm not rich. We're not fabulous, but I have enough to feed my kids, pay my rent.

Emily (22:37):

Well, I would say too that there's some good juju because you had said that this day that we're recording, you wanted to talk about discharge day and you wanted to talk about work. And then literally right before we come to record,

Sage (22:49):

I got a job.

Emily (22:49):

They're like, here's our job.

Sage:

It is crazy.

Emily:

Because I was thinking it would be like, oh, well, the office is calling. She might have an interview. We don't know. And then it's like, no, fuck that. We have two bottles of Prosecco. Yay!

Sage (22:59):

Yes, yes.

Emily (23:00):

Someone got a job. Yes.

Sage (23:02):

Emily was like, which episode should we do? And this was like three, four days ago. 

Emily (23:07):

Well, we've had this on the roadmap for a long time and we kept bumping it,

Sage (23:09):

But she's been sitting in the queue.

Emily (23:10):

It's been sitting in the queue because we're like, who wants to talk about boring work, toxic bullshit, blah. But now it's very apropos. 

Sage (23:16):

But it's so important because I know that there's other women out there like ourselves.

Emily:

And guys, everybody.

Sage:

Of course. And guys,

Emily:

Everybody.

Sage:

Who are struggling to keep their jobs or get a promotion or get a new title.

Emily (23:27):

Yes. They're passed over all the time. Layoffs are happening all the time. People are getting rejected. The struggle is real right now. 2025 is not about the full-time bougie benefits. Here's my pension. I mean, even with the government!  The government used to be the most stable thing ever, and now they’re the ones getting chopped the most. So hey. 

Sage:

Yeah, you never know. 

Emily:

You never know. You got to just go into business for yourselves.

Sage (23:49):

Exactly.

Emily (23:50):

So just follow the footsteps - or not - of Emily and Sage. If you do, just be warned. 

Sage:

Yes. But be adamant, assertive,

Emily:

Persistent,

Sage (24:01):

And confident.

Emily (24:02):

And let yourself sit on the bench and not, just do nothing for a while. We've talked about that in a few episodes for you. You've got to just give it a rest and not worry. It'll work out.

Sage (24:12):

I'm very fortunate since December, I've kind of been sitting on the bench. It’s now mid-March ish.

Emily (24:18):

Yeah, you’ve given yourself the time. And honestly, that's a pretty quick turnaround. December to March. It's not bad. People go over a year looking for a job.

Sage (24:25):

You're right. You're right.

Emily (24:26):

It's not bad.

Sage (24:26):

Well, we hope that we connected with our lovely Watch Me Do It fans about work and what the craziness entails to keep a job, get a job and,

Emily:

All the jobs.

Sage:

Pay your bills and keep it moving.

Emily (24:39):

Go get that hustle. But if you do get discharged, just think about it as puking after your hangover. You're going to feel a lot better. Believe me.

Sage (24:45):

Or that vagina release of discharge feels good too. 

Emily:

You had to throw that in there. 

Sage:

I did. Sorry. Please write in and give us your commentary. Emily and I always love to respond, hear what you guys think. Thank you.

Emily (25:02):

And tune in next week. We have a really special guest. 

Sage:

We do. 

Emily:

So we can't wait to have you guys hear it.

Sage (25:08):

Let me set this up a bit?

Emily (25:09):

Okay.

Sage (25:09):

Okay. We have a very special guest like Emily just mentioned, and he is from Ashley Madison, the dating app that is very, 

Emily:

The controversial dating app. 

Sage:

Exactly. 

Emily (25:22):

We’re not having Bumble folks on here.

Sage (25:23):

Right, right. But after having a good zoom and connection with,

Emily:

He's actually very rad. 

Sage:

Yeah.

Emily (25:31):

I was ready to kill him.

Sage (25:32):

I know.

Emily (25:33):

I was like, you enable people to cheat, you motherfucker. And then I was like, actually, you're really cool.

Sage (25:37):

No, he is. 

Emily:

Do you want to be on our podcast? This is great.

Sage:

I was all for him. Just to hear from the very beginning of how,

Emily:

It’s a different perspective. 

Sage:

He's raw and he's real.

Emily (25:46):

He's real.

Sage (25:46):

And that's why you and I agreed to disagree, and we're going to have him on next week.

Emily (25:51):

Well, I told you. I put my tail up between my legs. I was like, okay. You're right. He's cool.

Sage (25:53):

I know, right? So we're thrilled for that guest speaker next week. 

Emily:

Yeah, listen in.

Sage:

Again, Happy St. Patty's Day.

Emily (26:01):

Yeah. I hope you guys had fun.

Sage (26:02):

Enjoy

Emily (26:03):

Luck of the Irish. 

Sage:

Yes!

Emily:

See you next Tuesday. 

Sage:

Cheers. 

Emily:

Bye.