Craig's guest is Jason Smith of the Michigan Center for Youth Justice. His organization has played a key role in advocating for some major changes to the Michigan juvenile justice system, such as the "Raise the age" bills, record expungement for juveniles, and improving conditions for those in youth facilities, especially after the death of 16 year old Cornelius Fredericks in a privately run Kalamazoo facility in 2020. The two discuss all of that, and what work still needs to be done to ensure better outcomes for those in the juvenile system in Michigan.