Ep. 8 - Staying The Same is The Real Risk

Growth Requires Discomfort—Here’s Why It’s Worth It

In this episode, we discuss our concepts for effective personal and relationship growth, emphasizing goals, unwavering faith, immovable energy, infectious joy, and living life without limits. We share our transformative experiences in 2023, including acquiring a horse and a new home, making significant business and personal decisions, and outlining plans for 2025. Their key message is about sustaining growth and joy within a partnership, illustrating the importance of setting big, empowering goals together. Learn how we create compelling shared futures as a way to continually evolve both personally and as a couple.
Various insights into balancing individual and collective aspirations while advancing through life's challenges are discussed & provided.

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Dave: [00:00:00] So if you take all four of those and you're like, okay, what's happening right in this moment? And I have this like unwavering faith in my calling. I'm not gonna be pushed off of it 'cause I'm removable and yet I'm gonna have so much joy around it that I track the light, I'm the lightness in the dark and I'm just gonna think so absurdly, impossibly big because there are no limitations on my life, regardless of the energy around me.

Like how could you lose?

Do you know what my favorite holiday is? 

Angie: New Year's? 

Dave: It is. You wanna know why? 

Angie: Because it's a fresh start. 

Dave: It's not only a fresh start, it's, it forces people to really take inventory of their life. And I don't think people do that often enough. I. We're really committed to growth and purpose, and we're doing it much more often [00:01:00] than one time a year.

But for most, it's like this is the year that change can happen. This is the year that, you know, I could actually unveil and become, you know, everyone loves the memes and all the posts on social. Like this is gonna be the year, new year, new me. And I'm like, new year. Same you, because you didn't put in the work.

And so I wanna talk about how we come up with these ideas and these plans and these dreams and these commitments that change our life radically every year. You know? What was the thing you said? You said it so beautifully. When we first started dating, 

Angie: I said every six months we were, I don't even know what we were dealing with, but I said, every six month our life is unrecognizable.

Dave: I think you even said it more direct. You were like, every six months our our life will be different. Yeah. Like it's going to change. And I was like, what? Is she talking about You see, that's the beauty of you. Like you inherently, innately just know. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: [00:02:00] Right. And I believe when we haven't had that change, we've had stagnation.

Angie: And those have been the hardest times of our relationship, actually, 

Dave: without a doubt. You know, the saying you're either growing or dying is so apropos. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right. And you can't have, I think why we work so much, the thing that tethers us the most, uh, together is our ability to always believe and seek our future being bigger than our past.

Mm-hmm. 

Angie: Yeah. And I mean, our, our kids even feel it. Like, just recently Ella was like, 'cause when we're taping this, it's what? January 3rd? Yep. And so just recently while we were taping or while we were, um. Talking about like our New Year's and everything. Ella's like, what are we gonna do today? I was like, well, we're gonna go home and we're gonna plan and we're gonna do, she's like, we do that every fucking day.

I was like, okay. Fair. We definitely do, but it's just a, it's just a different perspective when it's this time of year versus [00:03:00] other times. 

Dave: You know, we never, in the beginning it was so natural mm-hmm. With our relationship that we didn't have this conversation of, you know, last year should not look like this year.

Mm-hmm. And on and on and on. Right. Like, the goal shouldn't be to just sustain mm-hmm. Or to live the same year over and over again. You know, there's a saying, new becomes normal. Normal becomes numb. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And that the things that you would like have died for in the past, become now your prison. Right? Yep.

Your paradise becomes your prison, and that's the thing with growth. Like the minute you stop having this compelling future of like. Of something to look forward to, some purpose, some calling. I believe you start to die. Mm-hmm. I think that's why like, people who are married for a long time, if one passes away, the other one usually follows.

Or when people retire, they die shortly after. It's 'cause they, they, for, they, they [00:04:00] no longer have something to go for. Mm-hmm. They know how have a reason they don't have purpose. Yeah. Yeah. Without that purpose or reason, I think you get stuck. Mm-hmm. Which, when we think about like the, our past year, a lot has changed.

Like, I think it all started with you, I mean, about a year ago with wanting to start riding. Like how did that all begin? 

Angie: It was almost an exact year ago. Um, my biggest thing was like, I wanna be out in nature and I wanna be around horses and I'm gonna start riding again. And so I started leasing a Mustang.

In the middle of the desert For how 

Dave: much? 

Angie: $40. $40 a time. 

Dave: Yep. 

Angie: Um, she was very trained, by the way, so it was safe, but 

Dave: it was not 

Angie: safe. It was safe. She was, she was a good horse. But anyways, she did end up running away and back with her herd. 

Dave: Did she really? Yeah. I did not know. 

Angie: Yeah. She's now back in the wilderness.

Very safe 

Dave: in the middle of nowhere. So your intention or your, your resolution led to me going out there and going, this is not gonna work for us. Yeah. And us, me saying, why don't you just buy a horse [00:05:00] and, and you being like, what? You could just do that. And I have this background and growing up with horses that a lot, you know, my little, uh, my bar trick.

Mm-hmm. The thing least likely to know about Dave is that I am really good at riding horses and I've been around horses my entire life and I was able, I know it pisses you off because it does me off something that, 

Angie: because my horse doesn't listen to shit when I'm on it. Yeah. And he gets on and he's like, 

Dave: it is kind of amazing that I'm able to do that.

Even I'm surprised. I know. And I have that in my bag of tricks. Um, but with the beauty about, this was your idea. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And your intention, your goal of wanting to do this, led to you going out to doing something. Me going, this isn't good enough. Why don't we present this? You going, wow, we can buy a horse to leading us to you doing research and this cowgirl Cadillac and this auction me reconnecting to a past life and people Right.

Reaching out to Craig and, you know, he's such a big shot and big deal in his world, but I've known him since he was 16. I just known him as Craig and like starting to like. Get back [00:06:00] into that world. Mm-hmm. 

Angie: And for me it was an impossible dream. Yes. Like it was always this impossible thing, like horses are too much work, too much money.

It's you, you shouldn't have 'em unless you're super experienced with them. Yep. All these things. And then you said that and it snapped me out and I was like, wait, what? Like this is a possibility for me. And then I went completely down the rabbit all the 

Dave: way, and then we ended up with me, me testing them out.

You testing them out, and an auction with you not even feeling comfortable bidding us. Getting that, getting crews in a random way, which led to you transforming. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: One idea. One possibility. 

Angie: And not even transforming. Like honestly, I keep telling people, I'm like, that one decision opened this entirely new world up for me.

Like, I didn't know. I still don't know. I still haven't even like hit the, like I, there's still so much to learn in this world, but I didn't. I have an idea that it was like this whole other world. Yep. There was like [00:07:00] all of these things, like every single time I learn something I'm like, it, it's wild. But 

Dave: think about, you know, you're 38 years old now.

Mm-hmm. Think about how many people would be like, you know, that dream's over for me. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: I'm never gonna have a horse. My life is this. I have kids, I have a business. Yeah. I live in Las Vegas, like this isn't gonna work. Mm-hmm. Or a husband that've been like, Nope, this is, this is ridiculous. Yeah. Or this is, you know, and so you wanna talk about a year of transformation that kind of started, that started everything that just opened up the floodgates of what's possible.

Mm-hmm. Right. Which led to then the house we're sitting in. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Right. Because that was right after, so not only we, we added a four-legged animal, 1200 pound family member. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: This house, um, the previous owners were thinking about selling it the year before. And this is was one of our day jobs is luxury real estate.

And you were like, this is the house. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: And we're maybe a [00:08:00] thousand feet from our previous house. 

Angie: Yeah. And honestly, it's not that much bigger and it wasn't the house that we had been looking for, but I walked in and the energy of this house was like, you were like, this is it. And then you actually weren't, 

Dave: I wasn't, I felt like it was a lateral move.

Yeah. I felt like it was a temporary thing. Yep. Right. I knew coming into custom houses and the, the second gate was gonna be a nice feel 'cause there's treeline streets in here. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. But 

Dave: you pushed and then I made it happen. And this is kind of how we work, right? 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Like you have a lot of the times you're like, this is what I want to do, and then I bring it home.

Mm-hmm. Right? When you know, you get the idea and then I have the, the resolve. You're a good finisher to bring it through. Right. And so I did say, I have a feeling that when we move into this house, everything's gonna change in our life. I said, I have a weird feeling. And that is an environment game, right?

Change your environment. Change your life. Right. You have to keep, like I always say, [00:09:00] show me your friends and I'll show you your future or your product of your environment. What we forget is that your environment will actually rewire your brain. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. It 

Dave: gives you the possibility of how, what your identity is and like how you look at yourself and how you look at possibilities.

Like it's that changing, that growing is so important. So we came into this house and it was interesting because the biggest difference for me, what with the environment was everything just made sense. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. I, 

Dave: I have a very, I don't wanna say intelligent brain, but it's an active brain. Right. And I'm very rarely at peace.

I'm always trying to solve something. I'm always trying to make things better. And when I entered this house, there was just a peaceful aura for me with all the green and everything, and. I was like, everything's where it's supposed to be and there's a million things I'd like to change. Mm-hmm. But that was a portal.

Perfect. That, that portal just opened everything up. 

Angie: I think that a portal is a great way to describe it because I feel like the fastest way to quantum leap [00:10:00] into anything is changing your environment, your surroundings. And it's like the, it's, it's exactly what we did when we both moved to Vegas and how we just constantly, we do move all the time and we change a lot, but I think that those changing of our environments, even think about the office, like when we went from one location to the other, how it just completely opened a whole new portal.

Dave: You gotta shake shit up, you know? Mm-hmm. I always say like, you gotta, you know, break shit to breakthrough. Yep. And break free. Right. So then, and then off we went again. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And. You know, we are both very committed to coaching, not only being coached, but coaching others, right? Mm-hmm. As you with your claim, the light ladies.

Mm-hmm. Me with my warrior guys, like, you know, that's the thing, you're in your bubble, you know? And Dispenza says all the time, Joe Dispenza's amazing. He's like, if you wake up and you live the same day all month, all year, you're not changing anything in your brain. Mm-hmm. It's like you get up in the same side of the bed, you brush your teeth the [00:11:00] same way you wear the same clothes, you have sex the same way.

You eat the same food, like you stop growing 

Angie: and you're gonna have the same results. 

Dave: Exactly. Yeah. Whereas like, we just started changing everything. And so not only that, it's your friends. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right. Like, and I love my friends, I love my family, I love my people I work with, but like, this is why I'm always like, let's talk about different shit.

Like let's, let's break through the surface level. Let's go deeper. I wanna hear about your dreams, I wanna hear about new shit. Like you'll see, we'll see some, some people we'll go to dinner and it's a year later and they're living the same life over and over again and they're always looking at us like we're half insane.

And it's half and, and very exciting because like, what are Dave and Angie up to now? 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right? And so when we are around these people in these groups, we're around our people. Yeah. Because they're recommitting to these lives and it's like, oh wow. Now I'm, my frequency is like, I'm not trying to bring people up to my frequency.

In some cases I'm trying to stay up with their [00:12:00] frequencies and it's kind of compounding. Yeah. So it opens up a whole new world for us. 

Angie: Right. You also committed to. Your health coach this year. Yeah. 

Dave: Which, which led through that. Right. So I spent a shit ton of money with an amazing guy, Doug Grant, if you wanna look him up.

So 30 k. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: People like, what are you nuts? And I'm like, well, it's a priority. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Right. And I remember 

Angie: sitting there like, so he comes to the house and he does live blood and he does this whole thing. And I remember sitting there at the table and everything that he was talking about. It was, I knew that it was such a portal for you that I was, I was in tears.

Like, I started crying. I was literally crying. Yeah. Because I was just so happy and excited that this was like, completely gonna change the game on a health level for both of us. I mean, you more importantly, but me as well. 

Dave: And that's the thing about getting coaching and guidance and, and plugging in.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Like, it's, it's a growth game. Yeah. So I check in every single, we do a Zoom every single Tuesday. He's here all the time. I do live blood, I do blood through, um, the places. Right. We're [00:13:00] checking everything. Mm-hmm. Uh. Customized supplements. Customized meal plan, customized work plan, health identity. My health identity is King Lius 300 mm-hmm.

Or 300 agents. Right. And not just about that. Like we were talking about being a patriarch and a protector and a provider, and like really creating this thing. And I think about what we're talking about right now, like I'm just cut through and stop. Like, who talks about this shit? This is about growth and change.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Like a health identity. This could be a topic in inside of like a dinner. Totally. Right. And so this is the type of stuff that opens up when you're committing to seek 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: To find. And so that, and, but even with you, you did three big things this year off of your group. Right? You committed to some stuff.

You haven't finished them yet, but you, you already paid for it. Right? So, yeah. 

Angie: I mean, a couple of the things that I've committed to this year, I've, I've almost pushed out intentionally so that I can continue that snowball and that [00:14:00] momentum. So in two weeks, I'm going to work with my stylist in Chicago.

Her name's Talia Cogan. She's amazing. Um, and it's a two day process. It's like a spiritual journey, an activation journey about like creating the queen that you are and bringing out the queen that you are in your, in your style. Um, and so that's in January I'm gonna work with, um, a therapist that does journeys medicine, plant medicine journeys.

I have a feng shui expert coming into town to talk about all that. 

Dave: What about your pictures? 

Angie: And that was huge. So my sexy pics for Dave. Yes. So I, I truly feel like every woman should actually, at some point in their life do boudoir shoots. Like do boudoir first. I'm getting 

Dave: turned on just thinking about it right now, 

Angie: by the 

Dave: way.

Stop. 

Angie: But I sweat through two robes while I was getting my hair and makeup done. And it was something that like I totally didn't even tell you about. And it was, it was actually just the beginning of December and I wanted 'em done by your birthday. So it was quick. Like I had called her, I was like, Hey, can we get me [00:15:00] in like, almost not enough time to like worry about it.

Um, and so I went and by the, by the beginning of the shoot, I sweat through two robes and was so nervous. And then at the end of the shoot, I mean, I was walking out in whatever she had available and I was just like, okay, whatever. And I mean, I felt so fucking beautiful and just like, like sexy and alive and confident.

And I text her the next morning and I was like, I don't think you understand. What you actually do for women. 'cause it's not the pictures, it is literally like so much more. Like I just felt better. Like I felt like proud of my body. I felt like I honored it. Like it. And even the girls, like you were like, don't let the girls see these.

When I showed you and I showed my girls, I was like, no listen. No, I didn't 

Dave: say don't. I said, did you let them? 

Angie: Oh yeah. 

Dave: Yeah. You already showed them. No. You know why I love them? 

Angie: Hmm. 

Dave: Because if we had them up in our bathroom or someone saw them as like maybe a nipple here or something like that. Mm-hmm.

Like they are [00:16:00] so classy. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Like even though it was like leaked. Yeah. I'd be proud. Not like same. Turned off. And I knew how important that was for you and, and I was the benefactor of it as well. But it also just to fast forward. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: One of my goals this year, and I think I'm inviting you onto it, is to be able to be in such great shape through that health identity.

It's for us to do them together. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Right. Like which he 

Angie: does also 

Dave: soft little soft core porn 

Angie: a little bit. But I remember getting 'em done and like that whole week we were going through this other transition that we'll talk about in just a moment. But the whole time you kept like being like, this is, you know, me stepping into this new version and all these things and I so bad was like, I need to freaking tell you what I just did.

And I was like almost not saying anything. Yeah. 'cause I didn't know how to like keep a secret. And I think I showed you before your birthday, right? Yeah. It was a couple days. Like a day or two. It was the second I got him, I was like, I can't keep this song in any longer. And [00:17:00] I just showed you. 'cause I was so happy and I wanted to talk about it.

And it wasn't even about showing you the pictures, it was about talking about the experience and the journey that I had to go through to be really proud of them. 

Dave: And it's a transformation for you. Yeah. Because like people just assume because you're so beautiful, that you're so comfortable in your sexuality.

Right. Yeah. Like I think we throw that label on people 'cause of the way they look. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Rather than realizing like everyone has their own thing. Like, you get in your head like totally, you'll kind of be like mm-hmm. 

Angie: Like 

Dave: weird about it sometimes. Totally 

Angie: awkward. 

Dave: And me seeing you in that light, it was like you stepping into a full queen.

Yeah. Like there's, there's probably very few things that are sexier than a human being that's comfortable in their own skin. So. 

Angie: Well, I got in my flow state. 

Dave: You did? 

Angie: I was in my flow state by the end. And you can see the progression of the photos too, like how I was really uncomfortable and how I started like becoming more comfortable.

And then I was just like, and she kept going, okay, where'd she come from? You know? 'cause I would like be just chilling and happy. 

Dave: Which this was [00:18:00] kind of an acceleration. So we had, cruise was the beginning of the year, the house and some vacation travel in the summer. Um, and then off we started accelerating, right?

Mm-hmm. And so in that, that week. I had purchased a $50,000 watch in Rollie. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: That I've been putting off no shit for like 10 years. Yeah. When I hit this thing, I'm gonna get it. When I hit this thing, I was gonna get it right. Like it was, 'cause Rolex was about 10, $12,000. And I was like, when I make a hundred thousand, which is crazy, um, I'm gonna get this Rolex.

And I never did. I never like saw myself in that light of worthiness. Like it's not even that worthiness. I'm more likely to spend 50,000 on a coach. Right. 'cause I see return, right. Than just some watch. Mm-hmm. Right. So we did that 'cause I was going, I am still looking at myself like the king that I am.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right? And what's wild is like, well who do you think you are, Dave? Right. Or who do you think you are Ange for doing these [00:19:00] photos and thinking yourself as a queen? Right. We have to look at ourselves these way, this way. Right. As transformation again. And so I. Leased the Lamborghini, which I've been talking about getting a Bentley or something for years.

Got these pictures from you. I mean, 

Angie: best fucking birthday ever. It Lambo a Rolex and sexy fix from your wife. No, and I had 

Dave: already lost like, like 10, 15 pounds just from hooking up with the health coach. Right. So the compounding acceleration of how much we were changing, I was like, you know, it's like a time warp.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Of like, I haven't walked with a buddy of mine in two months 'cause of just traveling all this shit going on. Like when I walk with him in the next couple weeks, I feel like I'm bringing almost like a whole different version. Like I knew me. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: I'm like, he's like, what did you do in the last 60 days?

Right. And it culminated with the biggest thing of all when we, um, bolted our company, bolted Urban Nest onto real. Mm-hmm. Which was and is continually being an identity shift of like no other, [00:20:00] you know? Mm-hmm. And you think about 13 years of owning a company and 13 years of. Pouring into people and, and holding space.

And then, and then the way it came out, like, this is the spiritual, oh, I didn't even mention the spiritual journey of this year. Mm-hmm. Right. And so going through the identity shift of who am I? And it projecting out onto people around you. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Because whether it's buying a car or buying a watch, or doing pictures, or going on a medicine journey, or, you know, spending a ton of money to get a, a new, a wardrobe and a stylist, like there's certain parts of us and the people around us and the things that we interact with that are like, Nope.

Why are you moving my cheese? Yeah. Why are you changing? Yeah. You can't do that. Yeah. [00:21:00] And we've, I've experienced, we've experienced the most. In business. Mm-hmm. Especially with our agents. Like, and we were talking about this recently. When you make this quantum leap, when you shift your identity, or I believe really you're just rebecoming who you already were before you started putting all these layers.

Just remembering. Yes. 

Angie: Yeah. Remember it. 

Dave: And when you do this it, I think it forces people to kind of take an inventory of their own life. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: And if they don't like what they see, rather than deal with it, they will project it onto you. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And so I keep thinking of this thing, I'd rather die than not live my purpose.

And this is part of the transformation of what we've gone through this year. 

Angie: It may be to everybody that's watching it sounds like, holy shit, there's all these amazing things happening, but let's not forget. The J curve basically on a daily basis that we've had to go through in every one of these scenarios, like in [00:22:00] every single case that you mentioned and every single thing, like it has been like some real super uncomfortable moments.

Like Yeah. Even with the horse, like I remember just Dr driving around and me trying out a bunch of horses and being like, babe, this isn't for me. And like crying, being like, I'm totally overwhelmed and this isn't the meant to be and whatever. And you'd be like, listen, just let's go to one more. You'll find a horse.

Anybody that wants a horse can have one. It's fine. But like every single thing that you mention, this entire episode has been amazing and it's been these quantum leaps, but it has not come easily. It's been so uncomfortable and that that is what truly is the transformation and the growth is that really getting through the uncomfortable times and then coming out on the other side and being, being like rewarded for it.

Dave: Listen, even something as stupid and silly as the Lamborghini. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Like I've, I've gotten some shade. Right. Some competitors in the real estate world are like, oh, Dave got paid off. He got a [00:23:00] Lamborghini. Like, not understanding my journey. Yeah. Which I did not, I wish I did get some money, but I did not. Um, some friends like, oh, midlife crisis.

Mm-hmm. And I'm like, no, just going on a living spree. Right? Yep. Like really feeling it and then the comment like, you know, things aren't gonna make you happy. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And I'm like, of course they're not. I was like, but it's nice knowing that I'm worth it. Well, you know, your friends could tell you that already.

I'm like, I appreciate it, but the only person that really needs to know that I'm worth it needs to come from within. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Myself. So something as silly as like, not silly, I should even saying silly is, is devaluing it to be like the 14-year-old boy that was laying in my. Eight by 10 bedroom with wood panel walls.

And on those walls I had posters like every little boy in the late eighties and [00:24:00] the nineties. And everyone had a Lamborghini and a Ferrari with the pretty girls. And to have that joy to be like that 14-year-old boy like comes out every time I get into that car and I hear that Rev and I see Lamborghini, I feel like a like a child again.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And like, I can't wait to go get you Starbucks and drive to the office. It's like three miles of like, remembering not only who I am, but like the boy that had these huge dreams and everything was in front of him. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And it's like, to be able to access that and do it like unapologetically and not let people bring me down on it, like, you know, well, you know, you should probably be driving, you know, a Toyota.

It's very economical. Like, no, I wanna dream big. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And you know what's wild? Kids get it when I drive by kids, they lose their shit. They like rev it and like, 'cause kids are excited. 

Angie: Well, Gigi, it's hilarious there, there's no TV in this car. 

Dave: I know. And 

Angie: that's her favorite [00:25:00] thing about your, our other car is there's TV in there and she fucking loves this car.

Every time she goes out she's like, Ooh, I wanna drive in Daddy's car. Right. Like, she's obsessed with your car. And to me, I'm, I'm not super into cars, so to me I'm like, okay, it's a car with a different name on it. But Gianna is like four years old and she understands that. It's like that much more valuable.

She gets 

Dave: the energy of it and the excitement of it. Yeah. You know, I always feel like this when I'm in a beautiful hotel room. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: It's like the standard of the way I live rises and I wanna live up to this hotel room 'cause it's gorgeous. Or in the four seasons, every time I get into this car, I wanna live up to this standard.

I wanna be the man, the king that's worthy of driving a car like this. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: And so the transformation game is huge. Mm-hmm. And it all starts with like, what if. We grow. What if we change? What if we live? Not just talk like you only have one life. 

Angie: Yeah. What's possible? 

Dave: What's possible to answer the call.

[00:26:00] Mm-hmm. And which brings me to the biggest transformation of all the things I've been hesitant to talk about because I think I already am making excuses, but I think a lot of people hide behind it. And that's the spirituality game. This, this, I wouldn't even call it return to God or, or even, I don't even know if God's the word for me, but faith.

Mm-hmm. And I don't even know if it's a return because I don't know if I've ever truly had it. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. I know 

Dave: we went to Date with Destiny when we first got married with Tony Robbins. And you needed a theme, you needed a word. And mine was faith. And it wasn't like faith with a capital G on God. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. It 

Dave: was faith, like, just faith on things working out that like it's more than just me.

And I'm not like, things aren't. Coming 

Angie: to get you, things are working for you. Yeah. Yeah. '

Dave: cause I had so many in my, my life, and I think yours too. I think it's one of our connections. There's so many good, followed by so much bad. And it was almost like you can't have [00:27:00] like, amazing things happen to you without some kind of cost.

Mm-hmm. Some kind of suffering and feeling like, not just feeling like you're alone, but like using it as like a superpower. That's, that's why. And it's, it's, it's a game that will burn you out. Like, all right, fine, I'll do it myself. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. Right. 

Dave: I don't need to rely on anybody. I rely on my dad. I rely on my wife, but I'm never asking anybody for help.

And like my superpower is going to be, I'll do it, not in spite of people, but by myself. I will grind. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And when you win, you can take all the credit, but when you lose, you take all the blame. And it's a lonely game. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Rather than feel like you're divinely led or the universe has your back, or you know, you're walking with God or you're, you're living your soul purpose.

That's been the biggest change for me. Mm-hmm. And so, um, and you've kind of always had it 

Angie: Yeah, in a different way. I have unwavering faith that even some of the bad things, like, that's why I don't live in anxiety a lot because if I think about something horrible, like something happening to my [00:28:00] children or something, you know, like you said, like, oh, life can't be this great, so something bad has to happen.

I think about like what the positive out of that could possibly be. And then I have to just let it go because if I fester on it and work, you know, stay there, it's just, it's not a good place. And I'm just like, okay. Like everything's in divine timing. Everything is meant to be, it's happening for me. The universe is already has its plans, it's already in motion, like things are already happening.

And that's, I think, the only way I can live without going into anxiety or depression or something. 

Dave: And that, and I think that calling is what allowed me to let go of what Urban Nest is. Mm-hmm. In its current form. Yeah. You know, the Urban Nest has always been, I believe, a projection of what I'm going through in my own life.

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: And as I evolve, the company has evolved 'cause I feel like we're tethered so much. Mm-hmm. And has gone from just a, just a really independent, great brokerage to like, [00:29:00] almost like a, like a life, a whole complete person connection, training, support. Like a, like a way of life almost. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: You know what I mean?

Like something with the building and something that people can plug into. I wanted it to like grow up even more with a higher standard. Yeah. And so to be able to be like, this isn't mine, this is the agents, this is all of ours. Yeah. Let's all move forward. Which is wild. 'cause a lot of people, just, some of 'em are not willing to move forward.

Yeah. I had this one conversation with an agent, his name is Joe. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And he became a friend over like 10 years. Just any change in his life was breaking him. And he thought about it. He thought about it, and he ended up leaving and going to a much smaller brokerage. And I, and I wouldn't wanna say going backwards, but not a place where like to grow.

Angie: Right. 

Dave: Right. I remember having, I had a conversation with, I'm like, Joe, like I don't want you to be left behind. Like, I, I [00:30:00] wanna lead you and I, I wanna save you. And he, he said to me, he goes, Dave, it's not your job to save me. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And I'm like, you're right. It was never about Joe or anybody. It's this, it's a projection of a part of me mm-hmm.

That is holding on 

Angie: Yep. To an old identity. Yeah. 

Dave: Yeah. To the past. And the other part is like Uhuh, we're leaving that behind. We're not bringing that forward. Yeah. We're bringing forward this, we game this new life. And there's a part of you that you need to honor and love. But it no longer serves you. 

Angie: Yep.

Dave: And that's that part of growth. And people just afraid of the unknown, not feeling that the future is calling. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And it is indeed bigger than the past. And I just don't want, if the minute I stop feeling like the future is bigger than the past, then I start feeling like I'm dying. So [00:31:00] that's kind of the game we played as a couple.

Remember, what did I say to you? I was like, all right, I think I did this with a lot of my friends. What are we leaving behind and what are we bringing forward? 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right. And so we, so this is the pivot. So we, we just went through kind of the previous year and there was tons of transformation and what would you say to somebody who's like, holy shit, like that's too much.

Angie: Um, I would say that it might be too much for you, but it's not too much for us. Like, you know, I, I do think that we reached kind of like we're building capacity building. Like there was a lot of capacity building this past year by jumping in over and over and over again to these situations. But I think that these were all things that were required for us to become who we, you know, wanna be and who we've set out to be.

Like, I already believe that the, the people that we've created the future us is already there waiting for us to step into. So 

Dave: you're more of like, let's lead by example, right? Yeah. And so, as, as me, this is, this is my [00:32:00] pushback, is why are you so committed to your current life? What's so beautiful about it?

So for instance, when when I'm talking to business owners 

Angie: mm-hmm. 

Dave: And they don't want to change, I'm like, so you must be very happy with your current results. And I'm just setting them up because they're not 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Everybody wants, wants. I actually 

Angie: am though. I actually am very happy with our current results.

I'm, I'm like super happy with our home, our family life, my health, our balance. Like I'm, I'm happy with all of that, but I already know the potential of, of even growing further from there, like, I'm willing to get uncomfortable again because I know what's awaiting me on the other side and what, who is waiting for me on the other side.

So 

Dave: that's, so you have grace for where you're at and growth for where you wanna be, which is beautiful. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: But most people, if you say to 'em, how do you want to improve? 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: How do you wanna change? They're gonna give you all the things they want. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. And 

Dave: then when you give them the blueprint on how to [00:33:00] do it, they're gonna push back and go, well, I don't really think I wanna change.

Yeah. And then you have to actually remind them what they just told you. Yeah. And say, well, which one's gonna win here? Mm-hmm. Right. And so I think when people look at it and go, that can't be me. They wait till they're forced to change and we just keep going. Uhuh. Like, let's get clear. Mm-hmm. So let's talk about, so we did all that stuff.

Now we're also dealing with like, okay. While it gets hard, while we get pushback from the change that occurs, 'cause people are like, are they leaving me behind? Mm-hmm. Not leaving me behind. That's a bad way of putting it, but like they're changing. Do I have to change too? 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Is the nature of our relationship going to change?

Is the nature of our business going to change? Right. We do it with each other. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: That is something that we have to deal with and we have to continue to move forward without getting pulled back into the past. Because things, when things get difficult, it's easy to do what? Fall back to the past.

Mm-hmm. What you've already known. That's why people go back into relationships [00:34:00] that don't serve them. That's why people go back to places that they've lived. That's why people go back to businesses where they were successful in the past, because they're like, 

Angie: mm, 

Dave: all right, let me run back to safety.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Rather than letting it all play out. Because you already did the hard thing. The hard thing was ripping the banding off or pulling the string or Right. Going for it. And then instead of following through, they give up on the change. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: So here we are. We made all these changes and we're doubling down again.

You know, when people ask me what the biggest difference between me or you and them, it's not on intelligence, capability, courage, any of it. It's just when it's willingness to go, it's time to go. 

Angie: Yeah. We 

Dave: go and I have a coach and people that go even faster than me. 

Angie: Yeah. And 

Dave: so I feel like I'm going slow half the time.

And then people are looking at us going, holy shit. They're just going. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: And then, like I said, it's impossible to be around that without going, Hmm, man, [00:35:00] I gotta do inventory on me. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right? 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: And those are the all-in moments, those are quantum leaps. Like you can't have the life that you say you want to have and the changes you wanna have without paying the costing.

Taking the risk. 

Angie: Taking the jump. Yeah. 

Dave: So what are some things of 2025? 

Angie: Well, my big thing is I want land. 

Dave: So, so now we break this down into multiple things. We have our body goals, our spirituality goals, our business goals, but with balance is relationships. So these are the ones that Angie and I do together.

So, um, I personally believe it's, it's healthy to come up with your goals by yourself first. Like, write them down and get clear on what you want because the way we do it is, um, that way and then we'll get ideas from each other. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: And we wanna make sure that we're not influencing each other too much.

'cause you gotta show up for you too. 

Angie: Yep. For yourself. And we, and we start with like, what a perfect day would be. Yep. Right? Like, what does a normal day [00:36:00] look like? What a perfect day would look like 

Dave: five years in the future. 

Angie: Yep. And then we, we kind of break it down from there. Reverse engineer it. Exactly.

And we, we go backwards and say, okay, who do we have to become? How do we have to show up to become that version of ourselves and to live those lives that we've created? 

Dave: So in Cabo, we did this. Yeah. We went on a, a little anniversary trip this year and we actually, we did, I did like a guided meditation.

Yeah. Which was a first for me. And we just talked about the future and then, and you were like, let's talk. I said, no, let's just write down, 

Angie: yeah. Let's 

Dave: write down our thing. Right. And they were very similar. There were some things that were different that we incorporated in. Mm-hmm. And we were able to unlock like.

What do we want our future to be like? Yeah. And what's exciting 

Angie: and, and what is, what do our personal goals look like? 'cause those are different. And then how do we align it as a couple and keep it on the same growing path? And then, you know, engineer it that way. Like, okay, now backtrack. Okay, now what does a day look like?

What does a month look like? What does this, [00:37:00] you know, 12, 12 week, year have to look like? Yeah. So for us to get there, so 

Dave: this is where Angie and I sometimes this is what helps us and hurts us. So the reverse engineering is to be able to think of this big future. I look at it very big. Mm-hmm. And she looks at it at small.

Like she wants to say, what am I doing today? Yeah. What am I doing right now to get there? And I'm like, what do we have to do that's gonna do it and get us there in five years? Right. And so then that when we're aligned, it helps out. Yeah. So example number one, we, you said you want land, you usually call it a farm.

I usually, I want a farm. I usually call it a ranch. Yeah, right. It's the same thing. But Angie, it's more horse. Focused like horses, animal driven, like in our window and shit. And I, you know, I've been in this game. That would be my dream. Yeah, no, yeah. They could 

Angie: just come up while we're eating breakfast and just not happening.

That's a dream that, 

Dave: that's not how it works. Oh, that's horse shit. And you have bugs and, but no, they'll 

Angie: live in a pasture. No. And then the pasture will be open to the kitchen window. So, 

Dave: so here's the beauty. We both want this, I picture it as like this [00:38:00] huge piece of land, this Yellowstone piece of land, right?

Like the, like the show. And you have. Uh, the animal part that's segmented. You have that, this beautiful house with the family part, right? A little bit like separation. Yeah. All the fun, the trampolines and the things. Then I picture the barndominium where we're having like huge retreats and we're talking about like, you know, we're having marriage retreats, we're having, uh, business retreats.

We're having spirituality retreats, like we're doing all the things. We're having, men are coming, finding their, remembering what it's like to be a man, like just this, this Elana, which is what we call it. 

Angie: Yep. And see that's the beauty of our, our goal planning is that I come up with the crazy idea and then you like, make it.

This reality, it's like Instagram versus reality. And then I'm like, oh yeah, that'd be great, because then I could just have a four-wheeler or a tractor to get to my horses every morning. Yeah. And then that would be fun for me. And then I just work my way into what the picture looks like. I 

Dave: even, [00:39:00] um, inputted all these ideas into chate and had them come up with a picture.

And it's wild. There's like this awesome, uh, truck, like a dually with next to like a Lamborghini, and it has me as a coach, but yet also like a cowboy. Mm-hmm. It has you as like this sexy Latina cowgirl, like when the, and I'm not 

Angie: Latina, but Yes, I know you. I wasn't a previous life, but Yes. 

Dave: But all of these dualities.

Um, and just kind of getting reconnected in this analog way. 'cause this is what we believe, right? Yeah. And so having marriage retreats and reconnection retreats is, is, would be part of the game. Yeah. One of the reasons why we're doing the podcast. So yeah. For this reconnection, 

Angie: that I would say is one of our biggest goals 

Dave: without a doubt.

Right? And then there, these years, it's about travel too. 

Angie: Like 

Dave: really committing to these. How many times are Angie and I gonna go on these little connection, uh, two or three night trips. These quick ones we're really like, they're there for, I mean, what do we stay in [00:40:00] Cabo? It's there for, um, to eat, sleep.

Have great, we had great sex in Cabo. We tried some interesting new shit. We 

Angie: did fun. That's another episode. 

Dave: Um, massages. Yeah. Things like that. Like it's, it's like a reset for your marriage. I, we highly recommend. We don't, and we, we need to actually do this. At least once a quarter. Yeah. And then what other trips?

Like ones, 

Angie: well, a lot of our trips this year are um, kind of obviously a reset and a reconnect for our relationship, but also to do recon for our 10 year marriage like renewal, which would be 15 years. But, um, 15 year anniversary is next year. So our big one, another big goal is to do find the spot where we wanna remarry and set it up and do all that.

Dave: So I was thinking about this, I was, you know how, so we were thinking about getting remarried in Cabo and you know, this kind of bury our past [00:41:00] 15 years. Mm-hmm. Right? Even though it's the 10 year marriage podcast and we think you should be, you know, recommitting every 10 years. We thought of this concept at year five, so between year five and year 15.

Yep. It's like a whole new 10 years. And so there's this thing about putting to rest the past, like leaving behind. What that was in bringing forward. Yeah. Us new ring. Even though she doesn't want one, she's getting one. You know, who's at this wedding? Who are we sharing it with? Um, who, who, who have we become choosing ourselves?

So we're, we had initially wanted to do it in Cabo, and then I came up with the idea, why don't we do it on a ranch? And then I said, why don't we make it a retreat? 

Angie: Yeah. 'cause if it's all the things we left now I 

Dave: was thinking like, just this morning we should actually, instead of like, we should make it an actual retreat wedding.

Angie: Yeah, that's what I thought what we were gonna do. 

Dave: Like, people who not like have 

Angie: an agenda. 

Dave: No, I'm talking about like, people paying for a retreat. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Oh, is that what your idea was? 

Angie: Yeah. And it's like a whole thing where there's breath work and [00:42:00] there's activities and there's hiking in nature, and there's like all these different things that people can plug into.

So give 

Dave: people options. Like, all right, so there's this option where you're actually re you're 

Angie: reconnecting with their spouse. 

Dave: Yes. While you wa while we are doing this. Yeah. Which we may get some randoms, which would be super cool. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Or people are like, oh, fucking Dave and Angie. And they can just show up to the wedding and be done with.

Yes. Which will be line dancing, country music, hip hop, and fun night. So that'll kind of be, so one will be your marriage retreat, reconnection. Yeah. With their souls. And one will just be the wedding. Yeah. And we can incorporate, I'm, I'm fucking down. Let's do see this. This is how we do it right here in the moment.

This is 

Angie: perfect. Yeah. 

Dave: Yeah. And this is not gonna be cheap, and it's just gonna require work and it's gonna be awesome because it's also gonna set the groundwork and the framework for what we'll do on our own property. Totally. By the time I turn 50, which is a three year goal. Yep. Right. So these are the things we're thinking about.

So this year is the 15 year that the remarry, the retreat next year will be Angie's [00:43:00] 40th. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Unbelievable. Which is, oh God, the yacht. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Right. You wanna be on a, 

Angie: maybe I haven't decided yet. 

Dave: I may change that. Mine is, I want to actually have this event 

Angie: at our own property, 

Dave: at our own ranch. Yep. At, on my 50th, create the retreat with people 

Angie: like the Dream Retreat on our own property.

Dave: Beautiful. And so then there's other things, right? There's like, I'm gonna get a vasectomy and like I had said in one of my impossible goals that I want Angie to initiate sex more, which, just saying it out loud to her and having a crucial conversation. What happened in Cabo? You initiated it. 

Angie: I did. I did feel forced a little bit, but I did.

Dave: I I didn't force you. I just said I know. One of my impossible freaks. I know. No, I did. 

Angie: Yeah, I initiated I think, like three times. 

Dave: It was, it was fantastic. Yeah. There was some, it was great. Some good fucking things in that one. And then we start, so the ranch is a big one, and then we start incorporating, okay, we wanna take the girls to Disney World.

We may take them to London. Mm-hmm. For the Harry Potter [00:44:00] experience, we're gonna go on another, um, honeymoon. Why not? Right? Yep. In north, northern, uh, Italy and potentially south of France and Switzerland. So we're starting to put together our vacation proclamation Yep. For 2025, which is, should be required.

Angie: Yeah. And if you can look back at your year, like Jesse, what's his last name? Isler. 

Dave: Yeah. Itzler. 

Angie: Itzler. Um, he talks about like having, if he, if you could look at your year and have some big moments, just whether it's 3, 5, 10, 12. Big moments. And you can look back at that, like, wouldn't you consider that a successful year?

Because he's very into, you know, you only get so many summers left and you only get so many times with your, your family left and things like that. And those are the other things that we, we kind of work backwards and we start checking off like, okay, our kids are, I mean, Ella's 13, she'll be 16 in three years, in five years she's gonna be an adult and potentially not even wanna travel with us anymore.

She's gonna wanna 

Dave: travel with us. Like, 

Angie: I know, but you get what I'm saying. Like, [00:45:00] yep. What, what can we do now where we really can, can offer her as a child, as a child still kind of, as a totally teenager, you know, that's, 

Dave: and that's, that's part of the game. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: And so, and it expands. It's traveling is a growth game.

Mm-hmm. Traveling challenge, challenges your frame. Like this should be a requirement. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Right. And it also gets you out of your environment. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And it makes you see the world and the possibilities as a bigger place. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: And so what, what we're doing right here has been a goal for a year now. Yeah, this podcast.

Right. Like we've been doing it now for about three months, but we're, we're launching in a couple of weeks. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right. So like this, this being open and sharing our world and inviting people in and not as like us preaching and telling people what to do, but literally saying, this is what's worked for us.

These are our ideas. Would you consider this possibility that maybe you need to have a conversation, but not in a forceful way, but an invitation and attraction way. So the podcast, a 10 year [00:46:00] marriage podcast, and all we've had to do the money we've invested in it and how we've gotta learn how to pull this off and, um, 

Angie: and the arguments we get on every time we, 

Dave: every time 

Angie: episode.

Except this morning, 

Dave: well, you know, one of my coaches, Garrett, you know, he has a podcast with his wife and he's like, he tells us all the time. He goes, A podcast will make your marriage so much stronger. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Real conversation. It's almost like therapy with the two of us. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And so that's been part of the impossible game too.

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: And then we take it a step further with our girls. Right? Mm-hmm. Like, how are they gonna grow this year? What do we need to open up as a commitment for them? 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Well, what else? Maybe I feel like I'm doing all the talking. There's a bunch of other stuff on there. 

Angie: Well, are we just going through our goal?

Dave: Yeah. I just, you know, I just want to invite people in to be like, give 'em 

Angie: ideas and give 'em, uh, that's some inspiration for their life. A lot 

Dave: of ideas are a little bit borrowed. Yeah, totally. And that's okay. Because I think people are just stuck, so they need to be inspired somehow. I mean, dream board's a [00:47:00] dream board, but when you're doing a dream board, you're like looking at the person next to you going, Hmm, 

Angie: well I can, I can rattle off mine.

I mean, I wanna get No, I'm 

Dave: talking about relationship ones. 

Angie: Yeah. Well, I think a lot of 'em are, you know, like me getting certified in breath work, fully certified. Like that's something that's a big goal for us as far as holding these retreats and having that be a, a part of that. My friend Sonia just went to this Ibiza retreat and it was like a full, like sensational, like seductive.

Dave: You're not going to Ibiza without me? 

Angie: No. We would go together. She went with her husband. Oh, 

Dave: gotcha. And it 

Angie: was like a whole reconnection. 

Dave: Is there, is there a Cuban girl waiting for us there for the two? No, it's, that's one of my impossible kids. Oh, okay. Sorry. Just kidding. No, 

Angie: but she came back and she was like, completely like, holy shit.

Like I look at sex and sensuality completely different. Mm-hmm. And I think that that would be something that was really kind of uncomfortable and weird for us, but. So much growth could happen within like a retreat like that. Like it was kind of like, it's kind of like taking the date with [00:48:00] Destiny Day, where we're like dancing and doing that and putting it into a full retreat.

Let's 

Dave: make sure that I've had my vasectomy by then. 

Angie: Yes. 'cause I do not wanna be pregnant again. 

Dave: I hope you're not right now. 

Angie: I better not be 'cause I'll kill you. 

Dave: All right. So we have a lot of goals. We do. I, I have somewhere around like Ella and Lola reading books this year. Some are about, you know, having conversations, like sharing book, having conversations about faith.

Yep. Which is interesting. New game for us, getting them active, things like that. Right. Beautiful. I think we should talk about, well you call it the code, I call it intentions and what we're bringing forward. 

Angie: Yeah. And I think that those codes can be, um, incorporated in every single goal we have. Like, how can we do these four codes or how can these four codes show up in all of these things that we're doing?

Dave: So we do all these big things. Mm-hmm. And they're fun to talk about. It's fun to dream big, but we'd be completely [00:49:00] full of shit if we didn't actually do them. And what we've done in the past is we've pulled it off, but sometimes at more cost than it's worth. Because if we, if we don't have the right energy behind it, right.

So even this urban nest thing, like, like I could see the future and I understand like the faith and the calling and all those things, but if you don't have the mindset right, you can really second guess and regret what you've decided to do. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. I 

Dave: mean, I'll never forget the first day I had the Lambo, I was like, what did I do?

Like, 

Angie: yeah, 

Dave: this is really expensive. Like other things are happening in my life that made me like start questioning everything. And when you make a lot of changes and things aren't going perfect, in that moment you will be like, why did I do this? 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Right? And so I was like, I don't wanna fall for the trap.

Like, what do you, the trap of perfection on a new year? Yeah. Do you, do you, you don't really fall for that as much, but you do a little bit. Right. Do you know what I'm talking about with that? 

Angie: Yeah, I do. I definitely do. I do that every week. [00:50:00] Explain, like start with the pro i I fall for the perfection of going, okay, it's a new start.

Like every single day I am gonna do these five things and I'm gonna make check marks for all five things. And then like day two, I forget to work out and I'm like, shit, here we go. And it becomes 

Dave: this robotic life like, and 

Angie: then I'm like, I gotta start over and now I don't feel as great because I lost a day or whatever.

And then 

Dave: you start sabotaging. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Well, I didn't get my 10,000 steps today, so the whole year's done. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: And so I didn't wanna fall for that trap this year because there is no, no. Perfect. Now do I need, do you need, do we all need consistent actions that then lead to these big changes? 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: 100%. I was like, let me bring intentions Yeah.

Into this year. Like, let me bring. These codes, these manifestations. And so I came up with four that I think cover a lot. And the first one was unwavering faith. And unwavering faith for me is like [00:51:00] combination of, and this is kind of like my primordial soup of like God's plan. The universe is working for me, not to me, happening for me has my back and what's my sole purpose, right?

Like I look at this combination because I believe it's all the same thing. Yeah. Right? The conversation I'm having myself, that's energy, that's God, that's me, that's my soul. And when I listen to that voice to be like, don't question it, let go and just go. Not even like we say all the time, jump outta the plane and build the parachute on the way down.

Like we do that. But sometimes like it's frantic. I'm talking about. Trust fall backwards out of the plane and let the person I need to become connected to God, catch me on the way down. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: To be so connected. 

Angie: And this one reminds me of that book, loving what is. 

Dave: Mm-hmm. 

Angie: Right. Where it's like everything that's happening is in divine timing, whether you realize it or not.

And just [00:52:00] loving it. Loving it for what it is, and just knowing that it's only getting you closer and it's what's required to do what you've already set out to do. And if you're crystal clear and you have clarity on what that looks like, then it, it's, uh, just faith that it is happening the way it's supposed to.

Dave: Exactly. But this, when it gets tested is when you really need to have it. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: Right. Yeah. Because it's like, okay, this is all unfolding. Like for instance, I've been saying to God and the universe in the world, like Urban Nest needs to be 300 agents. Mm-hmm. For probably two years. And we've been and as high as four 50, as low as three 80.

And with this change, I'm getting the numbers back today. There is a highly likely chance that we land exactly on 300 agents. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And then you'd be like, it was not, it was an interesting journey there. You don't know which 300, but I was like, this is what we have to become Yeah. In this new world. And I'm like, did God show up?

Did I manifested, did the universe show? Like, I don't know. Which leads to the second one. [00:53:00] Immovable energy certainty. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: To be like, and this is like, how do I react to the things around me? Because yesterday you were not immovable. 

Angie: No, I was in bad mood. 

Dave: Right. So this vi vibrational frequency, this energy transference, right?

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Are you gonna allow, are we gonna allow the world to bring us up and down? 

Angie: But here's what scared me when you first said that, not scared me, but here's where I pushed back when you first said this, when you first. I know. Well, I just thought about it in the shower this morning, but when you first were talking about immovable energy, I was like, okay, great.

I'm really good at bearing shit. I'm good at like doing the thing, not feeling. 'cause that's where the first word immovable came into my, my interesting 

Dave: frame, 

Angie: right? 

Dave: Yep. 

Angie: And then I was thinking about it and I was like, it's not actually that you bury it or that you don't let you feel the emotion. Right?

It's that you fully embrace the emotion, that [00:54:00] you fully feel it, but you just get through it faster, right? Yeah. You're just getting through all of this faster. And that reminds me of the book Untethered Soul, where it's like this energy can come, you feel it, but you don't let it get stuck anywhere physically or mentally, and you just let it go, right?

Yeah. And that is what I think is immovable. And the faster you do that and the more confidence you have in yourself that you can get through those, it's just gonna continue to snowball. 

Dave: Listen, it's a distant cousin from Unwavering Faith. Mm-hmm. But it's different. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: It's energy transference, right?

Yeah. And it's like I can see all my girls lose their shit and me show up as stern. Yep. But not a guy screaming at the top of my lungs. Right. I could be someone who defends myself if someone attacks me, but not escalating it. Just holding steps. Being the calm in the chaos. Yes. Yep. Immovable and having a quiet confidence.

It's power versus force. Yeah. There's no forcing, there's no resisting here. Yeah. It's like, here's a situation, [00:55:00] you know, everybody else is losing their goddamn mind and this motherfucker is like, he's like, you're like he's got it. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Right. The one who's gonna take the shot at the end. And I believe if you, we are vibrating high, which is the goal.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: There's gonna be this low vibrational force around us in the entire day. We have two choices. We can go down and meet that, or we could be movable. And have them come up. And if they don't come up, they're gonna try to challenge it. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: And just 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Cannot be fucked with Unfuckwithable. 

Angie: Yes. 

Dave: So those two are great.

And I almost stopped there and I was like, you know what, where's the fun playfulness? Where's the, where's the joy? Mm-hmm. So I was like, infectious, joy, attraction, seduction, playfulness, like, I call it ball breaking. Mm-hmm. Like, almost like you're walking around knowing [00:56:00] like a funny secret. Yeah. Like, you have, you know what I mean?

Like you're in on it. Like that's to, to me. Yeah. And 

Angie: I just, I, I picture, you know, the girl walking down the street just dancing with their headphones on and not letting any of the other stuff. Even come into her frame, or it's living as Gigi lives every single day. 

Dave: A ball of energy. Right? Yeah. And so you, this is when you're most free.

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: This is when I believe I'm the most attractive is when I'm, I'm not really flirting with people, but I'm busting people's balls and fucking with them in a playful way. Right. I think that's the best version of me. Yeah. And they'd be like, I don't have to suffer through and white knuckle, unwavering faith.

Any movable energy. Like imagine if you have a, it could be fun. It could be fun. 

Angie: It's just like being kind to people during the day, like random acts of kindness when somebody flips, flips you off in the car and you're like, I love you too. You know? It's like, which is gonna drive 

Dave: them more nuts. Exactly.

But it's great. But then 

Angie: you could be like, I did my part. Yeah. I was actually, it was okay. 

Dave: Yeah. You know, so [00:57:00] I, and this is kind of hard sometimes, again, like these frames get challenged mm-hmm. When shit falls apart, can you have all three of them? Yep. Can you bring joy through? And so that was, that was number three.

And then number four, I was trying to embody this growth mindset. Mm-hmm. I was trying to embody like self-worth, treating yourself like a king. All the things that we're doing right now. And I was just, uh, an agent friend of mine, ours, just shared with me something that is gonna stick with me forever. And it's, the universe doesn't cash small checks.

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Right. And I was like, this is, this is always being the buyer of life. Right. Not like, oh, everyone's gonna tell me how to play. 'cause most people, because play small. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: Like, I'm committing to having this kingdom life, not selling myself short. 

Angie: Yeah. 

Dave: In business, in relationships, knowing my value, attracting who I am.

And as we level [00:58:00] up and the standard changes going, this is just the way it is. Like, you don't want to come along. It's okay. I love you for it, but it's not stopping me from going. 

Angie: Yep. 

Dave: Not being held back. And it makes me think, and I've, I probably cried no less than five times to this song in the last month.

And that defying gravity, right? Mm-hmm. If you really break down those lyrics, I hope you're happy. Now I'm going, yeah. Like I'm stepping into like this. I'm not playing by the rules of other people anymore. I'm not playing small. You're not gonna hold me down like I need to fly. I need to grow, like mm-hmm.

You know, I rather if, if being free means flying solo. Yeah. If you ask universe for this small shit, it's not showing up because you're not at your highest vibrational state and connection to God and your energy. So if you take all four of those [00:59:00] and you're like, okay, what's happening right in this moment?

And I have this like unwavering faith in my calling. I'm not gonna be pushed off of it 'cause I'm removable, and yet I'm gonna have so much joy around it that I attract the light, I'm the lightness in the dark, and I'm just gonna think so absurdly, impossibly big because there are no limitations on my life, regardless of the energy around me.

Then all of the things that we've talked about, whether you do them every single day or whether you have the list or not, like how could you lose? We brought you through, uh, kind of a journey today. I mean, the past year of transformation, we're still getting used to and trying on new things around these big transformations and we're showing you what we are hunting down.

What are we seeking, what are we looking to do? What are we looking to unveil? And what happens is sometimes it doesn't end up that that five year plan will change a million times, [01:00:00] but what's required is. Taking that first step, opening that first door, which will then open other doors. 

Angie: Mm-hmm. 

Dave: It's the continually going, we're gonna go again, we're gonna go again.

Course correct. Well, we kind of wanted it that way, but it's gonna be that way. I mean, a month ago we were gonna have that wedding and Cabo and have everyone, and now it's a ranch wedding and a retreat. Yep. Right. But we going in that direction, you gotta start with at least the end in sight. Having the grace to be able to pivot as you go without stopping, without stop moving.

So the challenge for all of you is how does this look for yourself, but mainly also for your relationship. You see, this may expose where you have to improve. You know, if someone is already given up, one, one of you, and the other one is like, I want to go. This is the time when you gotta rise and meet your partner and give it your role.

You gotta try because if you have one person without purpose [01:01:00] and the other one with it, you're gonna collide pretty quickly. And you gotta make sure that the person who wants to grow and have purpose isn't pulling themselves down the, and being held back by the other person. And then the resentment goes both ways.

And if you are the person holding back, maybe it's time to meet your partner at that compelling future to give it a shot. Because you don't know what the relationship is even possible. What is possible unless you try, rather than just give up on yourself and an extension give up on your relationship. So every day, every year, and every 10, hopefully you don't wait.

10 years is an opportunity to be like, let's double down. Let's go for it. Let's create a compelling future for us, a shared purpose for this relationship to go.