The Next Perfect Step
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The Next Perfect Step
Transformative Journeys with Soul Coaches Laurie and Laurie
Have you ever wondered how a soulful conversation can spark a positive change in your life? Join us for a heartwarming episode as Kim hosts an inspiring dialogue with Laurie Mullen and Laurie Tremblay, the dynamic duo behind The Next Perfect Step podcast. These remarkable women bring their wealth of experience as soul coaches and Reiki practitioners, sharing their personal journeys of resilience and spiritual growth. Laurie Mullen's path of healing through self-love and nature, coupled with Laurie Tremblay's passion for music and energy work, highlights the transformative power of embracing one's unique journey.
The heart of this episode lies in the exploration of spiritual awakenings and healing from life's deepest challenges. Through the stories of overcoming difficult marriages and personal crises, Laurie Mullen and Laurie Tremblay reveal how mediums, Reiki, shamanic drumming, and energy work guided them toward peace and happiness. Their candid narratives emphasize the power of resilience and the importance of finding individual paths to healing, offering inspiration to anyone seeking growth and transformation in their lives.
As we wrap up, we celebrate the joy of rediscovering creativity and forming meaningful connections. Reflecting on shared interests in herbalism and healing, the episode underscores the beauty of friendship and collaboration within a spiritual community. Our conversation concludes with an invitation to ponder how intuition leads us to our next perfect step in life, encouraging listeners to engage with the podcast and join us in future enlightening discussions. Embrace the journey of love, creativity, and upliftment with us, and find the inspiration to live a life full of joy and gratitude.
Okay, welcome to the first to the next perfect step podcast. I am your temporary host today because I have an exciting thing to share with everyone. I'm going to have these two beautiful souls that I've got to know one recently and one for a little while now and I'm very excited because they are going to share with us who they are as people and what it is that they like to do and the positive impact that they give the world. So all possibilities lie in conversation. So let's get this conversation started and, laurie Mullen, I would love you to introduce yourself and tell us a little bit about who you are.
Speaker 2:Okay, hi, I'm Laurie Mullen. I'm one of the co-hosts of the Next Perfect Step. I am a fellow adventurer on this journey. I have lots of tools in my toolbox that I like to share. I am certified in two Reikis. I am a soul coach. I am a monarchy facilitator. I am an avid lover of reader books, especially self-help and spiritual books. Um, I am part of a community.
Speaker 1:Um, really, could you explain to me what the monarchy? The monarchy is that what you said.
Speaker 2:Could you explain that a little bit, because I I'm not familiar with that and then Andy's right, it's passage, it's a self-love opening of your heart pathway that we explore with nine different rights, which is nine different ways to connect with yourself and your self-love and nature around us.
Speaker 1:Thank you. I took this class with Lori, so we taught that class. I took that three years ago. It was great. It was wonderful.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's a very sacred ceremonial event which I just absolutely love. It's a connection like no other between just everything around you. You just have a feeling of everything being connected around you, which all leads back to your own heart, which is very interesting, thank you.
Speaker 1:Thank you. Anything else you want to add before we move to Laurie Tremblay? Nope.
Speaker 2:That's about it.
Speaker 1:Okay, all right, laurie, can you tell us a little bit about yourself? Sure? First of all, I want to thank you, kim, for for being our guest host today. Oh, I appreciate that. Thank you, it's my pleasure. So, yeah, I'm Lori Tremblay.
Speaker 1:I live in the same region in New Hampshire as Kim and Lori Mullen is in the southern part of New Hampshire. We're both Reiki masters. I'm also a Reiki master teacher and I love that because I love helping people to discover that they can learn to heal or open up the healing channels within themselves, which I love that. I also channel music through piano and I channel messages that I started writing down and I will put it into a sub stack blog post and it's called true, you channeled writing, which I really enjoy doing that Sometimes. I told the story of one time I was sleeping and I kind of woke up in the middle of the night. It's probably like a tap on the shoulder and it said all right, write down these messages and they just were coming through. They started coming through through Reiki. So I really enjoy us being open to that. I think we can all. It's not something special, but we can all do that and I also enjoy doing the podcast with Lori.
Speaker 1:I love nature. My husband and I are avid. We like to walk in nature, just be connected, and gardening, cooking and reading. I like art, more the creative side than the mathematical science, but I enjoy reading about, you know, the science of things too, but more creative when I love connection, connecting with people and just uh. The spiritual community is important to me too. That that's great, thank you, and I've been the recipient of some of her talents and I'm blown away a lot of the times, so I'm really excited to be able to do this. I've watched this podcast quite a bit and it's always interesting, a lot of insight. I just I really feel like you guys are so passionate about this podcast and you shine the spotlight on so many people, so I feel extremely honored that I get to shine that spotlight on you, two beautiful souls, today. So what I would like to ask and I'm going to start with you, laurie Mullen um, how did you know, how did this podcast come about?
Speaker 2:Yeah, so I would have these conversations. Lori was my one friend who I really could talk about anything I was reading or learning or even struggling with in my life, and there was no judgment. There was no like oh my God, she's gone mad. We need to get a straight check right now, like I don't even know what she's coming up with and we would have these really in-depth conversations. And when I would get off the phone I mean, even if Lori didn't come up with the answer for me, you know, even if we just talked it through until something shifted inside of me I would leave our conversations feeling like something shifted fuller, the heaviness was gone, I would feel lighter, I would feel like my soul expanded. I was just happy.
Speaker 2:No matter how I showed up within the conversation, I left the conversation feeling better and I really wanted to have more conversations with people like that and I wanted more people to be able to have conversations, to be able to feel what I was feeling, and that's something I'm really passionate about is wanting everyone to feel this joyful feel. What I was feeling, and that's something I'm really passionate about, is wanting everyone to feel this joyful life that I have finally found, and I wanted that for more people. I wanted Lori and I's conversation to be more normalized, to not feel like you were crazy trying to say these things, but to have an open space where you could just talk about anything, even if you weren't even sure how you felt about it. I mean some of the things I've called Lori with the most craziest things ever that after we laugh like, okay, somebody actually believes this, but we were able to talk it without her going this is what you believe, like no, this was just a conversation about something and I wanted that for more people. So every time I'd get off the phone with Laurie, I kept thinking like, how, how can we make this? How, how do I, how do we offer this to the world? How do we get more people talking about these really soul moving, expansive conversations that, when we're done, doesn't make us feel heavier but makes us feel lighter and happy? And even though they're really heavy conversations, sometimes it shifts something in you that just releases stuff and makes you feel happier.
Speaker 2:And I kept thinking and you know I listened to a lot of podcasts so I thought, you know, maybe podcasts, maybe Facebook Live, but then there was. I mean, I was nervous about the whole thing and I was thinking I have no idea how to do any of this right, I don't know how to do a podcast I am not technical savvy at all when it comes to like social media or anything like that so but I just kept. Every time me and Laurie would talk, I would feel so good that I just wanted to share that feeling with the world. And then we had a girls weekend and I'll let Laurie take over the rest of the story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I'll let Laurie take over the rest of the story.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so Laurie and I and another friend, Joan, went. We just wanted to get together. We went to up north and we got a place to stay. We thought we were going to just do, you know, healing, read cards, hiking and doing all these other things. We did none of those things we did.
Speaker 1:We had these great conversations that we were doing horrible card readings and that we were just, like Lori said, just exploring ideas, and I like what I like about Lori is that she comes up with these Outside the box ideas that I hadn't considered before and I thought, you know, like aha moments all the time with her, and so I enjoy speaking with her as well. But we had just a wonderful weekend. And then Lori said you know, I think we just need to allow what's coming next, which is kind of where the next perfect step came from. And we talked about podcast and Lori said well, I've been thinking about doing a podcast and we got really excited about the idea of doing it.
Speaker 1:Initially it was going to be the three of us on Joan, Lori and I, but Joan did the first episode with us, which was fun and yeah, and then she had. We had her as a guest. She wasn't able to continue. So we just going and we've been learning. We've had some bloopers on our show that maybe people don't know about, but it was a lot of fun, lots of fun. And I get excited too when I'm talking with Lori and excited talking with our guests and exploring what we're believing and what we're considering. Like Lori said, it's been about a year, a little bit over a year. This is our second season.
Speaker 2:We learned a lot.
Speaker 1:But it has been fun. But it has been fun. It has been fun, yeah, and you've had so many interesting guests on and, you know, one of the things that I want to just express my thanks to for this podcast is it is hard to find intelligent conversation and every time I turn on one of your podcasts, it's always intelligent conversation and I really love that. So, which brings me to kind of the next question of and I'm going to start with you, laurie T when did you first start to reawaken your sense of consciousness? Well, this is really interesting because when I was very young, I remember crumbling in bed and contemplating the stars and how far the stars went, and I was kind of freaking myself out because, you know, getting to know, getting the concept of eternity, when I was under five, I was and I called my mom and I was trying to talk to her about it, and I remember that and then also remember something a little strange, but it happened. I, like my perception was different. I walked into a room one day and I was still young, under five, and I looked at the clock and that in the um, it was spinning around like this fast and I was like what's going on and then this perception of the room was not changed. It wasn't a square room and I don't to this day understand what happened. But I know that I was connected and conscious of spirit and the divine and I was very connected with nature because my parents took us for walks all the time and I'd be out all day looking for fossils and connecting with the birds and making things out of the grasses. But I think that was first.
Speaker 1:I grew up in a Christian church and had a really strong faith. So kind of what happened after that was I did get married a little young and to someone. I met him in church and I thought he was amazing, and then we kind of eloped and my parents were not thrilled about that at all and, to make a long story short, we um he started drinking after a year became abusive emotionally and physically and that sort of was a nightmare for me because we were traveling and I had um when we had a son and uh weren't ready for we didn't have a stable environment, so he had to go to um his mother, so that all of those things happened and I was, we were, we were around a lot of churches and what I saw on the travels and what was happening with with him kind of changed the way I grew up, changed my faith and I'm not, you know, I'm not trying to do this as a downer, but just to explain what happened my faith. I left him. He was coming into a mental hospital because he was schizophrenic, bifolar and an alcoholic. So I left and when I got home I was really sick.
Speaker 1:But I also realized I I didn't have the faith anymore. I didn't know what to believe. It was like things have been um, the rug had been pulled out for me and I was struggling. But I always knew, I always knew that there was a higher power. It's just wasn't the way that I envisioned it. So I had to find my own way. I had to find my own way back and I pretty much stumbled and spiraled out of control for a little while, more than a little while, just trying to find out who I was and where I was going. So that was difficult, but through it all it was, I learned I could survive. I learned, I, that I was stronger than I thought.
Speaker 1:I um got custody battle back for my son for the divorce back back to my feet, got working again. And then, um, we were able to move to New England. I was able to move to New England with some friends and from then on, actually, my spiritual path just unfolded. I met a medium, we sat in a circle and just connected with spirit. And then I started taking different classes and met different people and it was like, step by step by step by step, I was opening up to figuring out what resonated with me, and then I figured out that I was really wanted to be, have a reconnection with spirit in a different way than I grew up, not saying that, you know, anyone that's going to church is wrong, it's not, it was not right for me. And so I had to find my own way, right for me. And so, um, I had to find my own way and and I I'm so grateful now, looking back, that, um, I that that happened and that I did find my own way, and I found reiki, I found different modalities where I could connect with spirit in a beautiful way.
Speaker 1:The story that I just told it was a long time ago and I have, you know since, reconnected with my son. We have great relationship. He's grown, you know, definitely, and he's happy, and he's living in california with his girlfriend and he's. We have a great relationship. He had some trust issues. Um, you know, not not to be uh was understandable, but he's wonderful. His name is bernard.
Speaker 1:Um, now I'm married to a beautiful man, been married for 20 years. His name is glenn and he's, uh, just so supportive and we're. He's my best friend and he first, on our first date, he said I will never hurt you and I was like where'd that come from? But he just said you look scared. So, um, I'm just so grateful. He's my rock and just a really wonderful man, just very blessed, very, very blessed. Well, thank you for that. Yeah, that's it, and I think sometimes our darkness and things we go through really for us forward into, oh yeah, that's growth that we wouldn't normally have if we didn't experience some of those things. So, okay, lori, your turn, if you can tell us when it all started for you yeah.
Speaker 2:So I was at the age of 40. I was was in a complete crisis. My life had completely falling apart, Hit rock bottom. I'm not even sure I might have been lower than that. My mom had passed away. I was losing my house. My marriage was falling apart. My kids were young. There were events around them that were happening.
Speaker 2:I had gone into such a deep depression and I knew there was something inside of me that knew I was about to get really sick. I knew I wasn't healthy. I wasn't feeling good. I was physically, emotionally and spiritually in a crisis. All levels of all of me was done and there was something in me that was like you either have to figure out how to live or you're not going to. I knew it. I knew something had to change. I couldn't keep going on like this. I was getting up every morning for my children they're my heart, my whole world but I wasn't healthy for them either, and I knew something had to change.
Speaker 2:And I happened to be online and I got this advertisement for what was shamanic drumming and shamanic journaling and I thought that was fascinating and I started to find the world of energy and I one of my friends, my longtime friends had just posted this thing about what what is Reiki, what is energy. And so I went to it and she got me started down that path. And at the same time, when I found that Facebook group, I loved drumming. I loved you know the Native American culture. Drumming, I loved you know the Native American culture. There was just something so sacred and fascinating about it to me. So I went to that and I met one of my first teachers, Bridget Murphy, and started going down the road. She offered a nine month coaching, which was like counseling for me. My friend who offered the free Reiki, Christiane Travia. I started going down the energy road with her and what that was all about, and it just opened me up to this world.
Speaker 2:And so for my 40th birthday I decided I was going to do something that I've always wanted to do, that I've never really done. And I went to a medium and it was a known medium in my area. She'd been doing this forever and ever and my best friend knew her and she said I've got you and she took me to see her and it just all three of those things came together and just opened up this world for me and I just went in with both feet. This was my lifeline. This was my what do you call those white things that keep you floating? But it was. It was it's what saved me. It was like this Okay, you've decided you're going to lift, Because I really didn't know if I was going to. And when this door opened up for me, I decided I'm going to live and I jumped in with both feet. I started learning everything I could learn. It didn't change my world right away.
Speaker 2:Me and my husband separated for about seven years. We both worked on ourselves. I dove all in. He dove into his work. I dove into mine, which was very, very different, started learning Reiki and reading books and going to classes and learning everything I could get my hands on.
Speaker 2:I went down the conspiracy theory hole, the radical in every direction possible, and I got to a point where I had learned all of these tools. I was really into all of it, but I wasn't really implicating it in my life. I wasn't doing it. I had learned it, but I wasn't living the lessons. And that was the next step, and that opened up huge doors for me too, and um got to a point in my life where everything started coming back together. Me and my husband got back together. We both um showed up as new people and we have the best relationship we have ever had. Um, my two boys are soaring um, and it just every time. Every step on this path has just opened up more and more doors and um, yeah, yeah, I went from not knowing whether I was going to be here to absolutely living my best life.
Speaker 1:That's, and, like I said earlier, you know, those dark places really bring us into a much stronger sense of light than you could ever have without it. Um, so would you say that the next perfect step podcast, or or even just following this work brought you into that state of joy? You know, is that what held you forward into the state of joy that you get to experience now, or was there some specific thing?
Speaker 2:no, so there isn't a specific thing. So I I have um, laurie will tell I am really good at questioning my own beliefs, so I each step along the path, formed a new belief. Right, I learned a new relationship with God. I learned a relationship with angels. I learned a relationship with the people around me with Laurie, with my husband, with my children, with my parents, with the people around me with Lori, with my husband, with my children, with my parents well, my dad Not that my mom's not there, it's just not in form.
Speaker 2:I got to experience all these new things and question my belief and question my beliefs, and I really did learn that. You asked the question in the beginning who am I? And I think that we, as humans, start to tell us about the tools we have or the things we do or what society forms us as, but who we all are are powerful, compassionate, spiritual beings. That's who we are. But who wants to say that? Nobody has the gall to say that, right, because it comes with all kinds of things we start naming off titles of what we are.
Speaker 2:No, we are powerful. I have learned that we create the world we see by our perceptions, by our beliefs. And guess who gets to sign those? We do. Life is a perspective. I get to decide what things mean. So when someone says hello to me, I get to decide whether they were like hi, hello. Or they were like hi. I get to decide that that makes my life happier. So it wasn't one thing, one lesson. It is all of the lessons together that got me to this perspective and to stand in my own power and say, yeah, no one's in control, I am that powerful, and that does not come from a place of ego, Because every single person on this earth is that powerful. I am no more powerful than anybody else. You are just as powerful. I am no more powerful than anybody else. You are just as powerful. Stand in it and say it, own it, and that is what has just that statement right there that I just said brings joy to my heart, and I want everyone to stand in that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, very, very well. So I said thank you for sharing all of that and, with with that in mind, um, are you, do you have any struggles now that you're experiencing right now, and if you could explain some of the tools that you've learned that help you?
Speaker 2:oh, that I'm learning. Yes, so, as I said, I've been on this journey. I mean it's 10 years, but for me it seems like a lifetime. This last 10 years seems like a lifetime. I feel like I've been on this journey forever, and I probably have right.
Speaker 2:But, I can name it at 40. But yeah, my biggest struggle is that I want everyone to feel the love and joy that I feel right now and my struggle is meeting people where they are Right. I want to just pull everybody past it all. Let me tell you, living my best life. It was a really rough ride, right. It was a roller coaster of up and down. I was way, way down at times and really up high at times and everything in between, and I want people to skip over that and just be where I am now and it's been a big lesson of trying to try to remember where they are and where I was at that point and what helped me then and let them make you know.
Speaker 2:When we love people, we don't want them to go through what we've gone through, but the truth is they have to. The truth is is I can't pick them up and bring them to where I am. They have to walk the path right and I just have to walk beside them and if they ask me for tools, offer them the tools that I have, but I can't hand them my whole toolbox and expect them to know how to use the tools. That's been.
Speaker 2:That's a big struggle for me right now is I just want everyone to feel as happy as I do and realizing that they have to walk the path to get here and walk to that's a big. The big struggle, too, is that everybody doesn't want to. How do I understand? Like how can you not want to? But they don't, and I have to honor that and still love them where they are and make those decisions. So that that is probably my number one struggle right now is trying to figure out how to help the people who want to be where I am and meet them there and realize that they I can't just jump them into the front of the line, so I have to figure out how to do that well, that's a very gracious struggle.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so that's, that's pretty cool to hear, uh, and I think with this podcast, you're doing a great job having that happen, you know. So, laurie, laurie, um, could you kind of tell me what, what sort of uh enhancement you have in your life from all these beautiful gifts that you have? Um, how does that, how does that enter into your life with the piano and your channeling? You just talk to me a little bit about that piece. Sure, I guess I've just learned to like let go and allow. That's what Lori and I talked about is just allowing. The next perfect step from allowing and when that happens, I've oh my gosh, just most recently, there's. It feels like I'm in this flow of beautiful, sparkly, magical water and this wonderful things are happening. I'm meeting some beautiful people. You say some, somebody will say something to you that you needed to hear, or vice versa, and so I've learned to let go of basically control, like trying to control how the outcome is going to be or what the situation is, or like, as Lori said, how someone's feeling you don't, you want to try to help them and no, I, I just have to learn to step back and just go. Hey, you know, I'm so grateful for what I have now. I'm so grateful for our friends and, like both of you and our family, and I just feel like there's so many blessings and there's a, there's a place that you can create, as Laura said, that is on a beautiful, happy, joyful level. It doesn't no matter what's going on around you, and that's another thing I've learned, that it doesn't matter what's going around you, it's what's within you and what you're feeling and what you're grateful for and what you're connecting with. Also, another thing that's recently.
Speaker 1:When I was young, I loved just. I was creating up a storm. I was making dolls and you know everybody's birthday cards and drawing and playing. I played the piano at nine, so I was just like all this stuff I was having fun with as a girl. And now I'm doing that more Again. I'm taking classes again just to refresh her, which has been fun, and that's the creativity part of it feels so joyful and so like connecting me, connects you with that little magical river that's sparkly.
Speaker 1:So all of that is just, I'm just happy. I'm just happy um, where my life is going and you know, looking back in hindsight, the things that happened, like we stories, where they go into the underworld to come back up. So overwatch. But yeah, I, just in hindsight, I know that every things that made me look at the darkest were also tools for learning. And there's no failure, there's only learning, and there's you know. So learning to love yourself is is so important. Learning to like, say you are a magnificent being, you are a creator, you are a joyous um channel for love, and that's my prayer, is that I'd be a channel for love. Just touch somebody with a smile or whatever you can do. That's all I want to do that's you know, keep it simple.
Speaker 1:And yeah, and I forgot to say to tell you that laurie and I met in 2019 at the greenwich school of herbalism in salem yeah, that's where I lived. Then, you know, broke down from new hampshire, but we could.
Speaker 1:That's where I lived. Then, you know, broke down from New Hampshire, but we could. That's where we made our connection with Joan too, and we've all been remained friends. I know you're, kim, I know you're very knowledgeable about herbs and Kim. I must say too I forgot, I forgot to mention that she's a wonderful healer. She has a beautiful um ranch with horses and beautiful land and she's very connected and I've had sessions with kim too and just just admire her. I'm so glad for our connection, this friendship too. So me too, yeah, me too, yeah, and you know it, it is the other part of this whole sharing is really learning so much about the depth of other people and the like-mindedness that is really out there that you know this podcast allows people to tune into, and I'm so grateful for that.
Speaker 1:And I do want to share one quick little story. I was here a couple of weeks ago and it was after I had met Lori Mullen for the first time in person and we just had a great day together. And we were back here and Lori, just out of the blue, said to me Lori Tremblay said to me give me a, you know a theme. And I'm like, okay, you know, and so it came up forest because we had been walking in the woods. She sat down at her piano and she played the most exquisite what do you call that? It just flowed, it was the most beautiful music and it really amazed me because she would go from the higher parts to the lower parts and I could envision myself, because I walk in my woods quite often and I could envision myself being the serious person you know, thinking about what needs to be done to this. Are there fairies? And her music followed that and I was so blown away and you know, just so she, you know, and I I haven't gotten to experience some of Laurie Mullen's towns, but I know that if they're friends the way they are, that they're both incredibly creative people, and so that that would kind of bring me to the next question that I have.
Speaker 1:And what are? What are your passions about? Like, what's coming? Your next perfect step that's coming to you, and we'll start with you, laura T. Okay, wow, that's a great question. Um, I think, for for me, the connection with our community, or spiritual community, is really important. That's getting together and forming the bonds and the connections and seeing how we can work together to create a new way to help people or to reach people, or so I think envisioning those possibilities are exciting to me right now, instead of doing everything you know, kind of. When I moved here it was during COVID, so no, nobody, and I didn't have you know any connections, and so I wasn't even practicing my Reiki, except for distance, because I didn't know anybody. But I'm so grateful for the connections that I've made here, connections that I've kept with Lori, and so I really think that together we can just move forward. I love that. That's exciting.
Speaker 1:Make it better, yeah, really reach people who are hurting or worried or fearful and just give them a taste of who they are and remind them who they are, as Lori was saying, whole big, magnificent divine spirit. Sure, okay, and how about you, lori, the other Lori, I'm going to start off with a little story.
Speaker 2:The other, lori, I'm going to start off with a little story. So last January, my New Year's I don't want to say my New Year's resolutions I have changed them to what I want to create this year, which was choose joy, and that, to me, was a state of being right, and it took me a entire year to figure out how to get to where I am right now and really feel joy in my whole being. And this year's statement is I want to do everything passionately. So to me, joy is a state of being, but passionate is joy in action. So what am I passionate about? I am so passionate about getting everybody to this state. I am passionate about mindful, joyful living. I want everyone to love their life. Who love their life? And I can honestly say I do. Now I still have hard days, but I love my life and that feels wonderful to say, and I want everyone to feel that way. So, in saying that, what is my action towards that? I am so excited about what the three of us are creating. We are going to be creating workshops and retreats and getting communities together to share our tools and to help people live a life they want to live.
Speaker 2:And one of the biggest lessons I've learned is that I have these big, huge dreams and there are steps right the next perfect steps along the way, and I have come to this place this year where I'm not happy when I get to the big dream.
Speaker 2:If the big dream never comes, I love what I'm doing right now. If this is it, I'm excited about it and I love that and I want to share it with the world. I want everyone to love their life right now and still have big dreams. But I finally understood what it means to enjoy every step along the way. What it means to enjoy every step along the way Because of the next step, if I suddenly knock on wood but I'm gone tomorrow. I have loved my life. I love where I am right now and I am happy that I've accomplished what I'm happy at. And, as Lori plays the piano and creates beautiful art, my creativity is forming things like this podcast and getting excited about what we are about to do, creating these events to get people together and to just share and spread and be excited about being together.
Speaker 1:Love it, I love it, I love it. I love chills here and there on that one, I know that's yes, I yeah, that's great, um, so okay. So I think we're probably getting towards the end of the podcast time, so what I would like to do is I would like to ask each of you what would you do if you could go back to your younger you? What wisdom that you've learned would you share with your younger you? And we're going to start with you, laurie. That's a great question. I would just say that you are safe, you are loved, you are never going to be outside of the realm of you, are always going to be connected, and but there's nothing to fear. There is nothing to fear. That's what I would say. I love that. And how about you, laurie?
Speaker 2:yeah, I'm going to be honest and say my younger self wouldn't understand anything I'm going to say, would probably look at me like I had six hats. No, I know, but I love Laurie's answer. I mean, the first thing I would say is that we're that I'm safe, right. I mean, I think that's a big thing and that's something that I, you know, want the whole world to feel is safe, right, and we don't always. So, yeah, I mean, I think that's a big thing and that's something that I, you know, want the whole world to feel is safe, right, and we don't always. So, yeah, I mean, the biggest thing I would want to say is that I'm safe.
Speaker 2:The other thing is everything truly is going to work out. I mean, I look at all the things that I've been through in my life and, you know, if I could tell them to avoid this and avoid that, but I wouldn't be where I am, had I missed any of that trial and tribulation, I don't know that I would have learned what I've learned to get to this point in my life. So I yeah, I would tell my younger self that you're safe and everything really truly is going to work out perfectly.
Speaker 1:Have faith and keep going. I love it. I love it. Well, I guess we've come to the closing. This has been thrilling for me to hear and learn and understand more about the two of you. I'm extremely excited about getting the opportunity to work further with you and I'm looking forward to you know, maybe a part two of this at some point in time. So thank you for you know honoring me with this position to host this for today yeah, we just really like yeah, so thank you very much.
Speaker 2:This was a ton of fun. I really enjoyed myself. It was fun, so I'd love to do a part two and I really thank you for being willing to help us out with this.
Speaker 1:I've enjoyed it very much.
Speaker 2:Great Is there anything you'd like to share with everybody before we go.
Speaker 1:I just yeah, I think. I think I'm just waiting for the next part two so that I can you, you know learn more and more about the two of you. This has been great, so, thank you. So we'll have you on the as a guest, so you're not getting nothing back, okay. Well, I'll say yes to that. Great.
Speaker 2:Well, if you enjoyed this episode as much as we have. Please like, share and subscribe to the next perfect step and until next time. How is your intuition leading you to the next perfect step?