The Next Perfect Step
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The Next Perfect Step
Navigating Between Worlds: Understanding the 5D Consciousness and Our Changing Reality
The veil between dimensions is thinning, and many of us are experiencing the sometimes disorienting dance of having one foot in the old paradigm and one in the new. What exactly does it mean when spiritualists talk about "New Earth," and is it really a separate place we're heading toward?
During this heartfelt conversation, we explore how the 5D world and 3D world now exist simultaneously, and how our personal vibration determines which reality we experience most strongly. Rather than a physical relocation to another planet, we discover that New Earth represents a shift in consciousness—becoming more integrated with our higher selves while remaining grounded in our physical bodies.
Through personal stories and insights, we unpack the concept of timeline realities, explaining how different vibrational frequencies create entirely different experiences of the same world. We discuss the importance of self-integration, connecting with our unseen cosmic family, and finding joy amidst global transformation. Perhaps most fascinating is our observation about children born since 2013, who appear to arrive with spiritual abilities fully accessible—abilities that previous generations often suppressed or forgot.
For those feeling caught between worlds, we offer perspectives on how to navigate this transition period with grace. By acknowledging the chaos without fixating on it, we can maintain our higher vibration while creating heart-centered communities that support our collective evolution. Join us for this illuminating conversation about what it truly means to ascend into new consciousness while keeping your feet firmly planted on Earth.
Hello everyone and welcome to the next perfect step. We're all possibilities line conversation.
Speaker 3:I'm your co-host, laurie Mullen and I'm your co-host, kim McStay and I'm your co-host, laurie Tremblay.
Speaker 1:Welcome to today's episode. We all recently heard a channeled message from Diane Fresco, who channeled the Pleiadians, and she's talking about the 5D world, the new earth and the 3D world being here now one and the same at the same time. And what does that feel like? What is it like to be advancing and ascending into this new energetic vibration? So that's what we'd like to talk about today.
Speaker 2:So I'd like to ask both you co-hosts, if nobody knows what we're talking about at this moment what does new earth versus old earth mean to you?
Speaker 3:I guess I'll start Um, you know, I I feel like it's it's timelines more than anything else. So I, you know, I think we're all here on the same earth, so there's not actually another earth, which I used to think when I first started learning about this stuff years ago. I, I kind of saw it that way. Now I see it as it's more that your vibration and frequency and how you feel about yourself, how you self-love, how you expand love, all of that kind of brings you into an area of a timeline that fits you the best. And even though you'll still be in with all of the other people and experience other things, you might not experience it the same way. So it's how you look at it differently.
Speaker 1:So, kim, that's a great comment, I was just can you also explain for people that might not know, what timelines mean?
Speaker 3:Sure, I, at least this is what they mean to me and I, you know one thing that I will have to say that I listened to a lot of different conversations, a lot of different YouTubes, a lot of different channelers, and I think the important thing for me and I, you know, know, I would hope that I could share that with other people is that you really have to listen to your own intuition when it comes to a lot of this kind of stuff, because we're all human that are talking about it, except for the extraterrestrials, but you know how much of what they're saying is actual truth or for their benefit. So it's like I really feel like you have to stand into your own person when you're talking about this stuff or explaining it. And so I don't want to sound like I know what's going on.
Speaker 3:But what the timelines mean to me is that you know it's it's kind of like a dimensional phase. So you know we might be living a certain life, a certain way in one moment, while we're living a completely different structure in another lifetime. So it's like those timelines, you know I might be, you know, a great manifester of all things wonderful in one timeline and I might be, you know, living manifester of all things wonderful in one timeline, and I might be, you know, living on a street in another, but it's it's more of. Both are real and both are not real in life. And so when you, when you reach a timeline, it's you know what is your frequency meeting up with on that. So you different people, or you resonate with other objects, things, people, experiences, the way that you are set up to live, and so you, that's what you line up with that's, that's a great answer.
Speaker 1:Thank yeah, that really speaks to me. So, to answer Lori's question, to me the new earth is about becoming more aware of who I am and how I relate to other people, how I share and express love, how I share and express community, how I see things, how my vibrational level like I think in my life that I've come up in many different types of levels and a series of awakenings is what I always call it so you become more aware of a new type of way of looking at something or a way of being in your own skin. And to your point, kim, I think part of the integration process is getting all of those different parts of ourselves to come in to one to one integrated space. And we all talk about our higher consciousness, but our higher self believe that that is also a big part of the new earth is becoming integrated into our higher self. Becoming more Earth is becoming integrated into our higher self, becoming more stepping into our divine skin, our divine self, because we are great, magnificent beings in this body, but we're not the body, we're a spirit. So becoming aware of the spiritual aspect of ourselves and how we can also keep our feet on the ground and live our daily life and do you know, laundry and all that.
Speaker 1:How does that fit in it? To me? It's. It's feeling lighter to me lately. I feel like like there's a lot of lightness, a lot of light, a lot of synchronicities are happening more quickly and rapidly and that's exciting. And I don't know what's going to happen. You know what's coming up, but it's exciting to just um allow it to come and to allow your expansion and to allow your connections with your community and your, your soul tribe. That's what I call them, them. So that's my take on that. How about you, laurie? What's your ideas?
Speaker 2:so, yeah, so, like kim's, well, I loved what you said about you know, becoming more of your true self, and I agree with everything both of you said and, like kim said, she had an idea in the beginning that this was going to be something separate, and I really don't like the word new earth, um, because it does seem like it's something separate from where we are right now, and I don't see it that way.
Speaker 2:I kind of relate it. I mean, I did like Kim did in the beginning too. This was a whole journey rabbit hole of observing everything that was brought up with with this whole discussion which has been going on for a long time, with this whole discussion which has been going on for a long time, and I relate it to what I look like my life was 20 years ago versus what my life looks like right now, and I feel like I am living in a whole different world. Right, my life is completely different. Like I don't even can't even imagine the life that I was living 20 years ago, like my focus, my energy, I'm more focused on joy, love, compassion, where we're moving forward, so I feel like it's an energetic focus.
Speaker 2:You know, Lori brought something I also feel like it's an energetic focus. You know, um laurie brought something I also feel like part of it coming to your true self is that we embody our soul in our physical body, here and now. Living that way, living our true higher self, our soul self, here embodied in our physical self, and living from that energetic space. So that's what I kind of see. It's not a new earth, it's we're new. We're new people on this earth, living from more of a heart-centered space which creates a whole new world.
Speaker 2:And again, I'm just going to repeat myself, not a physical new earth, but, like I said, from one that we were never living before, which makes it feel like a whole new earth or a whole new world. And in a way, that's exactly what it is right. You've changed your world by changing your focus and creating joy in your life which creates new worlds for you. So to me, that's what new earth means. To me it's creating a world, my world which hopefully it's creating a world, my world which hopefully, you know I want for everybody. I want everybody living their most joyful life and that creates a whole new world for everybody.
Speaker 1:So, that's what it means to me and we get to do it together. It's like a collective thing now, like a lot of people are opening their consciousness and becoming more aware. Also becoming more aware. They say the veil is thin. Well, what does that mean? That means that our unseen cosmic family are, you know, the angelic realms, our guides and teachers, that our non-physical guides and teachers are here, always with us. Our ancestors are here always with us. We have more access to communication with our unseen family and friends, as well as our, our soul tribe here.
Speaker 1:So I know these. Some. Some of these terms are in the new age world a little cliche, like soul tribe or things like that, but that's kind of describing your family, your like-minded community that you connect with here physically and in a non-physical world. So those connections are becoming more strong, they're becoming more real also. Not only not only that, but connecting with animals and trees and and the elements is becoming more of a very tangible and beneficial practice and it's becoming stronger than it was, I think, than it has been before too.
Speaker 1:So there's a lot of upward spiraling types of changes coming for all of us and we're all doing it together. And then there are other people that may not choose to, at this time, have their focus there, so they're going to be in a different reality or a different world, so to speak. So there are. You can see that happening playing out right now, but the main thing is that we're all in this together and we just make our choice as to what we want to do yeah, so I just want to say that what you were saying about, that you know signs and synchronicities and connecting with you, know our past loved ones and our guides.
Speaker 2:That is an ability that we have. Up until now, think that special people have or that only certain people have, and the truth is, every single one of us are capable of doing it. We just have to come from a heart centered space and more people are realizing it, and I think that that's what's going to come. That's what's coming online is that we all realize we all have these gifts, we all have these abilities. It's not certain people who are connected or not connected. It's all of us. So it's it's a realization that we are all capable of this love and communication, um, with everyone.
Speaker 3:so yeah, so I yeah, like that, laura kim you were gonna say no, well, I was gonna, but I now I have two thoughts. So one from you, laurie, telling me about the integration process, of really integrating all parts of who we are, because I think in order to really move forward into your own dimensional timeline or whatever that you choose to be in, you really do have to become friends with all of that. And I know the three of us did that meditation that time. That really helped do that with the Whispers of the Wild, when you know the wolf moon. I mean that was transformational for me to to like really integrate all those different parts of myself, like really integrate all those different parts of myself.
Speaker 3:And as to what Laurie Mullen just said about, you know that we all have those abilities and I find that so many people they're just so unaware of it. And you know and you can tell that they have the same abilities. Everybody else does and, and I agree, like we were just we're all born with that. But what I'm really finding completely fascinating as the, from what I understand, like from 2013, the kids that were born then into now are they. They're born with those, with the knowledge of those abilities, so they're able to like really tap into them much sooner than our generation did I mean it? Yeah, took me forever to. I mean I had it when I was little, lost it and then it took forever to be able to accept that again. And I see these kids and their eyes are different. Their, you know, connection to animals and people and and the internet are like over the top as far as I can see. They're just, it's pretty wild that way yeah, I agree.
Speaker 2:I also think, though, that we have to give ourselves some credit, too, is that we are doing things differently. We are healing ourselves, which opens up a space for these kids to feel like that's normal. Where, when we were younger, that was not normal, that was evil or something like that, and you were strange and weird, we're making it normal for them, right? So I I so I think there's a twofold. I definitely think kids are coming more online, and we're creating a space for them to be able to feel confident about that, not feel weird or left out, and so I think we should all give ourselves you know credit for creating a space where these this is allowed, they're allowed and they can show and teach us right, yeah, that's neat so was there anything else from the video that um, that we watched, that um, you know, stood out to you guys, or you wanted to dive deeper into?
Speaker 3:I think I think the parts of it about you know how we kind of can sort of see the chaos that's going on in the world right now as something that's productive, and that you know, because it's so hard to hang on to that thought that we were going through all of these rough and rugged times and we, we don't have to, you know, like we do have to in order for the new world or, however you want to describe it, the world of love and peace. That is, I believe, true. I think it is going to happen and we just need to see it as okay. This is just. You know, this is the blender right now, mixing all the ingredients, and I do not want to put my finger in it, so I'm going to just be the observer and just try to breathe through it and try to hold my space and hold love for the world as best I can, so that you know I can avoid getting my hand in the blender, which you know I never used to believe was true.
Speaker 3:I was always an activist and this and that and everything else, but now I feel like I'm just going to let this ride out and I'm going to hold my true self in a place where, um, like laurie mullen just talked about with you know, just allowing that to be okay for people to feel like crap and come and say, hey, you know how do I not feel crap, and to be able to be there as a as a sounding board for that all right, so I think go ahead, laura yeah, please, and I think that, um, just something to put out there to help is you can see the blender, but you don't have to sit and observe the blender.
Speaker 2:You can focus on something else, focus on where you know we're going or bringing more joy into your present daily life, like this moment right here. Like, okay, I see the illusion and I see the chaos that's going on, but I can see the blender. But I'm going to choose to focus on something that makes me happy. Today I'm going to read a book. Instead, I'm going to go for a walk that can help get you through through. You don't have to sit and watch the chaos, even if you're not participating in it. You, you can. You can see it. Okay, I see there's chaos, but I'm not going to choose to sit and watch. I'm going to create more joy in this moment.
Speaker 1:So I just, you know, hopefully that helps someone I think that was mentioned, possibly in the video too, what you just said, lori, about you know it's important to find and create your own joy, your own personal space, because we are here. It's it's hard sometimes because you are here in this blended world and you're also trying to focus and raise your vibration, so it's a hard dance, I guess.
Speaker 2:And I think that's what we talk about between the two worlds, our feet between the two worlds right, there's the one foot in the chaos and the one foot in the joy, right.
Speaker 1:So that's that's what we're straddling right now yeah, yeah, I think you're right so we do have a um, a workshop coming up that's going to deal with some of these, these issues and how to kind of handle and cope with the um, the skills that we need to stay focused and grounded and to find our joy Um and we're we're happy to be hosting that on in New Hampshire, here in Wolfborough, new Hampshire, on May 17th um and from 10 to 3. So we'll we have more information about that, but I just wanted to bring that up because it fits into what we're discussing right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, very good point. Yeah, cause we're hoping to help people out with some of these tools to to cope with this whole change of change of scenery, change of worlds, or however you want to see it so what?
Speaker 1:I have a question for our listeners. If you would just type in the comments ways that you feel, um, you can raise your vibration, or what do you do when you're to to bring yourself up into this new world of joy? We'd love to hear from you.
Speaker 2:Any last comments or thoughts.
Speaker 3:No, no, it was an interesting topic, Certainly yeah.
Speaker 2:No, no, it was an interesting topic, certainly fun, yeah and I just want to give a quick little shout out before we go to old ways mustard seed. If you'd like to get a copy of my physical book, she has it there in wolfborough, new hampshire, so check her out. I'll link the website down below and we thank you for joining us until next time. How is your intuition leading you to the next perfect step?