The Next Perfect Step
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The Next Perfect Step
From hard-edged sales to sacred ceremony: how Lee McStay found purpose through unity, story, and energy healing
Ever wonder how a life comes together when you stop waiting for purpose and start following curiosity? We sit down with intuitive healer and ordained celebrant Leigh McStay of Unity 8 Energy Healing to trace a path that winds from a hard-edged sales career to deeply personal weddings, equinox rituals by the fire, and a grounded approach to Reiki that resists dogma and celebrates life force energy.
Leigh grew up in Christian Science, studying philosophy, and raising a daughter as a single mom while quietly training in Usui and Shamballa Reiki. The theme of unity shows up everywhere: in her infinity-inspired brand, in the balance of practical work with soulful service, and in the way she listens for story to craft ceremonies couples actually recognize as their own. You’ll hear how a scuba-diving proposal became the heart of a wedding script, why seasonal gatherings matter in a chaotic world, and how simple tools—sage, a Lemurian crystal, a shared reading of the directions—turn intention into embodied practice.
We dig into the history of celebrancy beyond the church, the weaving of ancient and modern traditions, and the evolution of Reiki lineages from Usui to Holy Fire. Lee shares a clear, inclusive lens: beneath every style is the same current—life force energy—made accessible through presence, touch, symbol, and heart. Whether you’re choosing a Reiki teacher, planning vows, or seeking a ritual to release and receive, you’ll find practical wisdom, gentle encouragement, and a reminder that joy is service. Pursue what sparks your interest and let the path reveal itself—one honest step at a time.
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Welcome everyone to the next perfect step where all possibilities lie in conversation. I'm your co-host, Lori Mullen.
SPEAKER_00:I'm your co-host, Lori Tremblay.
SPEAKER_01:And I am your co-host, Kim McStay, and it is my pleasure today to introduce a very talented woman, Lee McStay of Unity 8 Energy Healing. She refers to herself as an intuitive healer for both people and for animals. Lee grew up as a Christian scientist in that religion, and she feels it has opened her eyes in a belief system of healing and seeing people as perfect. She carries a degree in philosophy from North Adams State College and continues her curiosity in the metaphysical realm. Lee worked as a full-time manufacturer sales representative, selling to public works while she raised her daughter as a single mom. She holds a certification as a Reiki master teacher in Asui, Ryoho, and Shimbala multidimensional healing systems and has been practicing since 2006. Lee is also an ordained minister, performing sacred ceremonies such as marriages, solstice, and equinox celebrations. And as her sister, I've been able to witness a lot of these celebrations. And one thing that she doesn't advertise, which I think she's absolutely phenomenal at, is opening up spaces, living spaces for people and seeing where things need to be shifted. And in doing so, opening up that energy flow. So, Lee, I would love to expand more on the whole aspect of your celebrations. But first, I just want to ask you what made you come up with the name of Unity 8 Energy Healing?
SPEAKER_02:Great question. Interesting answer is that I didn't come up with it. I work with a lot of guidance. And since I've been in my 30s, early 30s, I've been getting the name, or the word unity slammed into me all the time. And when I went to start this business, I wanted it to be simply with the L E I G H yours, figuring that was really cute. And I went online, it was not available even in the L E I G H, which I thought was very different. So I sat back and said, What do I do? And Unity came in, but not only Unity, but eight. So I named it Unity Eight. And it was the only thing I juggled with was do I put energy healing, healing energy? What do I do first? So that was my only thing. But it's amazing how sometimes you just open up, which I try to practice, and that's how I came up with the name. And then, of course, all the colors, the logos, we have the light blue, the dark blue, the copper color, and they're all significant to um to the unity, strength, power, all of that. And I have my logo is the eight goes both ways. So it's what you give out comes back. It's also the infinities, just and then the circle of the unity. So that's how I just it all evolved. I think I looked at a flower pot for the inspiration for a little bit.
SPEAKER_01:Thank you for asking a little a little gardening in there. Yeah, a little gardening. Well, I will give over a question to somebody else, and maybe you can expand on some of your celebratory, your sacred celebratory practices.
unknown:Yes.
SPEAKER_00:I just have a question um for Lee. How does unity come play out in your life? Like what themes and things do that happen with you?
SPEAKER_02:I love that you asked that because I wrote to myself. I was asked to do a little outline. I'm actually gonna see if I can read it. It's a sentence that I wrote to myself, and it said, after all of these things that I was listing that I that I actually do, I wrote, Lee is now seeing the full picture of unity where interest and pursuit leads to purpose. Wow. I was so excited to tell myself that. And that was just yesterday.
SPEAKER_01:So thank you for timing.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Universal timing.
SPEAKER_02:Universal timing. Yeah. It's it this whole thing has given me a chance to look at my life, which has been a pretty long one at this point, of all the things that I have done, that I've become interested in, that I've pursued, even though I did the job of sales rep for a manufacturer, which is a very hard edge when you sell to the public works, very hard-edged vocation. And this just proved to be the soft end of it. So it was the balance for me. And as I look back at everything I've ever done, it's all led to this common place now. So for me to write that sentence for myself was it was glorious. Yeah. Thank you for asking that, Lori. Thank you. I love in that statement how it talks about um purpose and that most of us think a purpose is a job, but it's really our passion and what lights up our soul. And so it's fantastic that you got that um observation for yourself. Thank you. And I love that you do talk about your life's purpose. I you wrote a book. I have not read it yet, but I've heard you talk about it. So I like that you come from a position of just this podcast, the next perfect step. The next perfect step is just go after what you like. If you have a little bit of interest, go after it. Because then it could lead to something else, something else, something else. And I think that I find my most joy in the pursuit, not the end result, but the pursuit. Once I get to the end, I'm like, what's next? So the pursuit is my absolute favorite part of this whole journey. Yeah, and that's perfectly said. There is no the end, right? There isn't one thing we're always supposed to be doing. We're supposed to follow our path. You know, and to keep going. And it's not the end, or it's not that you've failed, or you you just something else next is more exciting. And you should just keep following that and following that uh with no judgment around the next step, right? You just keep following your joy, right? You know, too. Uh, I wanted to interject a little bit of something. The job that I had as sales rep for the manufacturers, that was put in my lap, and I thought, I can't do this, nor did I really want to. But as I did that, all of this other stuff started to expand during that. So it is interesting. Sometimes something comes to you, and if you just say, Oh, I'm gonna give that a try because at this point I need it, or I actually took the job because I needed insurance so my daughter could go to college, and I was able to get the insurance, but then I was able to pursue more of who I am. I was discovering who I am. So the confidence level has come little bit by little bit. Yes. Yes, it always leads into other things. And that's the thing sometimes with being led by spirit, we don't physically understand how that's getting us to the next perfect step, right? I mean, uh a practical job, right? A nine to five job in the spiritual world doesn't seem like it's the right next step, right? We're kind of taught to get out of that. And, but there's something in it or it leads to something else. So follow it. Don't try to be like, well, a nine to five job can't mean that I'm excelling on my path. It absolutely can because it can be leading to something else. It's teaching you something about yourself. There's an observation in there, or it's opening up a new door for you. But our physical minds, we get into it and we try to decipher it or to um tear it apart. Um sometimes we just need to let it lead us to where it is and not think about it. I love that. I absolutely love it, and it's so true. It is so true. And I've experienced it, and that that's the beauty of it. And as I get to look back, I get to see the benefits more than I did at the time, even though at the time I was the double-edged sword of the soft and the and the tough side of my work on both ends. Um, you know, I was exercising that with my customers and colleagues without their permission. So it was it was an interesting journey there. And I was able to embrace it, even though I wasn't getting paid. I was doing something of service, even though I was doing something of service. So I was always in service, but I got to do both ends of the spectrum, which was really quite beautiful. Quite beautiful. Now I thank you. I'm really actually unfolding in this talk at this moment in time. You're gonna get a lot of woo! It's so good. Yes, it's beautiful. Thank you, Lori. Thank you. Yeah, and I think that that's great too. In service, we think of in service being to other people or other things, but how about in service to ourselves too? I mean, there's gotta be that in there too, and we've got to start redefining that term. Um, in service isn't just to other people, but it's to ourselves. I mean, the greatest gift we can give to anybody is our joy. So we almost need to be in service to ourselves first in order to be in service to other people. Oh, 100% agree on that one. 100%. I think in this time in the world where we're put, where everything is very chaotic, it is imperative. And I do hear it a lot in other uh venues, other YouTubes, et cetera, that being a service to us, taking care of us is so imperative right now, especially now, because we need a ton of self-backup, self-strength, self-knowledge, self-love, self-joy, the joy part. That's key. Kim and I were just talking, we have to laugh. No matter what, we have to laugh.
SPEAKER_01:Well, and don't you think too that, you know, the jobs that you take on that are like nine to five or you know, things that you don't really, you're not really inspired by, but if you can see the lessons involved in that, like, you know, you worked on a lot of people with your Reiki with the um public works people, and you know, and then you also got to witness what you didn't want to have in your life for the rest of your life. So you can kind of take what, you know, the quote parts you don't love about your life or your work, and you can evolve them into what you really perceive your future to be. Right. Yeah, exactly.
SPEAKER_02:That's interesting. I mean, that's a lesson of what we want and what we don't want, right? That's the contrast that we have in the whole world. Um, and that's that's the learning process, right? Yeah, yeah, the balance, the learning process. And it's interesting. I like I said earlier, I I worked on people whether they wanted me to or not. But I would be at a meeting and have them captive, and they'd be sitting at a table, and I could tell right away somebody is really hurting. So I'd sneak over and sit down and go, I'm gonna work on you. And I'd be doing my thing. And some of them were excited, and others was like, stop. So yes, I was learning discernment, but I was learning restraint and uh consideration, respect for other people's space, as well as mine. It was quite a journey for me, absolutely.
SPEAKER_01:That's some good enlightenment.
SPEAKER_02:Yes, and I love the balance, the balance, the contrast. You have to have that, the the yin and the yang, in order to get the full picture. I love that, Lori. Beautiful. In fact, I love your background. Like you're staring at the leaves. We usually all have the same background, but I was awfully slow this morning.
SPEAKER_01:So we're going with it. So I want to hear more about the celebratory, the sacred ceremonies that you create with with your offerings.
unknown:Okay.
SPEAKER_02:So far, I've done some weddings and they've been throughout, let's see, Rhode Island, Mass, Connecticut, and New Hampshire. And what I discovered was that there's always a story in the couple, and I get them involved a hundred percent in the ceremony. The last couple I did were in Mass, and that was in August. And we did, I think we had two meetings, and I wrote their story, had them check it, but they also participated 100% in the vows. So everything, they knew everything, and I sent them what how it was going to go, uh, what they had written so they could double check it. And it was beautiful to see how their relationship shifted through their telling their story. It was incredible. They had known each other 40 years, neither one had ever been married, and they took that long to actually find them each other, which was so such a beautiful story. And yet, as they were talking and telling the story and creating the vows, I could just see the union getting tighter. And I'm not a believer to be truthful, because I've had gone through two divorces and I'm single now, that everybody's meant to be together forever because we all change, especially in today's uh climate and the whole thing. We're just we're we're just different. We're growing faster, we're evolving faster. But this couple just gave me a power of example of a love that's created through mutual understanding and respect that I had not witnessed in some of the others because they were a lot younger. They hadn't had that long time of experiencing life and relationships with others, et cetera. So they're still going through their story. And I did do a revow, and it was a 10-year revow, and we reviewed the original vows with another couple, and they were able to see the 10-year thing, the 10-year experiences they were had gone through. They were able to bring that to the ceremony that we did. And that was beautiful because they saw how they would grown, but I watched them still, and they just keep falling in love, but in different ways. So the dynamic is different, the the maturity is there, there it's robust, it's it involves everything from work to children to friends and family. It's it's amazing to me to just watch that and be a part of that. But that's what I love to do is hear their story, reveal it to them. And another little story I have is I worked with a couple, I could talk to them and talk to them, and I was like, I can't find a story in there to tell or to make it interesting. So they were getting ready to leave, and the groom to be mentioned how he had proposed. And I said, Whoa, wait a minute, sit down, I want to hear it. And it was the most fun story. They were both scuba divers, and so he had arranged a date with his fiance to go out to eat. But in the meantime, he had people bring the scuba gear and had arranged with his mom previously to have the proposal put in a waterproof box that he had put under the water. So he had gotten her there under pretense, got her into the water's scuba dive. She was done, started to come to the top, and he grabbed her by the leg, pulled her down, had her open the box, and there was the engagement rainbow. So that was the best story ever. And there were so many family members involved that I was able to tell the story. And that was so much fun. There was so much laughing because everybody identified. They were sharing their story with people who were sharing them. And it's just it's such a beautiful, fun thing to do, and so positive. So it was a couple of stories.
SPEAKER_00:Stories are positive are very powerful, right? They're so powerful. And I love how you're just connecting with them in that way and just um diving deep, no pun intended. To find their story, to find their um connection. I love that. I like to hear people's stories as well. So I'm glad that you have that gift that you can just um flesh that out of people.
SPEAKER_02:So thank you.
SPEAKER_00:That's awesome.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, how passionate you are about it. I mean, you light up when you talk about what it's doing. I mean, that's just it's breathtaking. It's you can tell how much you love doing listening and working with people, and it's wonderful. Yes, yes, thank you. I do, I do love it. And the more I do it, the more fun I have. Yes. And I was thinking Lori was talking, and I know you've done um workshops and you have one coming up at Apollo, and I don't forget what is it, is it coming up this month or next month? Um, where you're gonna do the workshop and writing as a tool. And I know Kim and I both use that as a tool for us. And so doing the writing um with this these couples is just it it expands my ability to write. Like the sentence that I wrote to myself and the um introduction, just it just tells you where you are, who you are, and that just keeps connecting you and bringing you closer to other people. And yeah, it's it's a this is the whole thing that just it it excites me beyond my understanding because it unifies everyone that's involved and not involved and brings more people in. It's it's just amazing to me. It's just amazing. Yes, thank you. And I was just gonna say, I'll stop talking, but that's not gonna happen.
SPEAKER_01:One thing I will have to say that I loved about Christmases with this sister of mine is she would always research, like, you know, what does a candy cane mean? You know, what do the colors mean? Where did the candy cane start? Blah, blah, blah. And then she would make up these personalized gifts for everybody. Like one year she did music, um, and but she knows the story behind the music. And she researches um, like when I've been to an um Equinox and Solstice gathering with her, that she has um instructed, or it's probably not the right word for it, but anyway, um, that you know, she's done this celebration that she really knows like the background of of why it matters so much, instead of just the words that, you know, like like at weddings, you know, when you go to a wedding and the JP doesn't even know the people, which was my wedding, um, and you know, like forgets the names, and you know, it's so impersonal and or it where hers are so personal, and and I feel that expands to your solstice and equinox and you know, all of the other ceremonies that you do. It's it's just you know, and like Christmases, it's way better to have those kind of gifts because there's so much thought involved, and you know there's research involved as well, and it's just it it means a lot. Thank you.
SPEAKER_02:I enjoyed it, yes. I enjoy it. Um yeah, I was thinking of another story and then I forgot.
SPEAKER_00:So sorry, I talked about it no, no, you talked.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_00:Can you talk about ceremonies that you do? Um, because I love ceremony as far as equinox as well. Can you talk a little bit more about that?
SPEAKER_02:Yeah, well, we just had the fall equinox and I got together with a group of friends, I think there were just four of us, and we had a fire. So fire and water often come into play. So we try to have fire, and luckily the person that hosted it lives on a lake. So we had both. And I'm able to bring in I bring in what it means. So the whole thing with the solstice equinox or any kind of celebration like that, even though even the weddings, everything connects, it all circles back to us as humans, but us as humans as nature. And so what I bring in is the story and what to look forward to, like coming through the summer, you've you've actively gotten into things, you've grown, you've done all the things you've um put down for the winter because you you sit and percolate over the winter and kind of hibernate and relax a little bit, but you're percolating. And then the spring, boom, all these things come to fruition in the desire for action, which comes in the summer. And in the fall, it's time to regroup again and to harvest all of those things, bring them in. This year we really focused. I had the everyone focused. We used the sage because that's one of the plants indicative of the fall equinox. We brought in sage and lit the sage and prepped us. And I actually brought my Lumerian crystal and had everyone hold it to their heart because this is a time to release all that is no longer serving us, especially now to release trauma, which I'm going through with huge extremity right now. And um then we did that and saged and just did a sacred connection with Mother Earth with Gaia. And then after that, after everyone did that, what we do is we give thanks to all the directions. And I have a thing that we I print out, and each person in the circle gets to read, and we just keep going around until that's done, and we give thanks, and then paper and pen is handed around, and you write down what you're ready to release and what you're ready to receive. That's what we did this last. It was beautiful. It was one of my best because I did even more planning. And and it and it was really, and they worked on me, which was really cool. No one's ever done that. They just think we work on you, yes. So that was really nice, but it it's it's all it's all bringing us back to who we are, which is nature, which is the stars, the earth, everything, sun, everything has something to offer, and we have something to offer back because we're all part of that one.
SPEAKER_00:Right, yeah, yeah, and your sister Kim is very connected that way as well. So both of you are extremely connected. Yeah, so Lori. Yeah, and Lori likes ceremony too. So it's all it's so important, I think, especially in this crazy world, that we have some way to connect and ground ourselves and just release, like you're talking about what doesn't serve us. It's just nice to have something that we can participate in, even if we do it by ourselves, but that's a ritual or a ceremony that it's meaningful and powerful. So thank you for facilitating that.
SPEAKER_02:A lot of the ceremonies here at Kim's house. She had the fire, she had the water, and she had the land. It was awesome. It was awesome. And that's when I first started. I actually brought a lot of hair. Let's do it. So yes, it was a lot of fun.
SPEAKER_01:My days where I had parties here. Love the parties, yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, um, I don't know if anyone's curious. I was extremely curious, so I started doing research on ceremony, especially with the weddings, because for some reason, I'm like, you know, what's all this about? And so I started I went online into Wikipedia and the the I just kept diving deeper and deeper. And I found that in it wasn't until 1973 that the actual uh civil ceremony or celebrant celebrancy thing started to take place because it was all church related. If you wanted to get married or divorced or anything related to that, you had to go through the church of whatever church you chose. And this man in mom, he was actually a senator and a judge. His name was Lionel Murphy. Lionel Murphy. And there's been several books written about him and his desire to change the laws, and he's from Australia. So he finally got it changed in '73, and it was a few years of him fighting to have people not ridiculed for wanting something different, non-religious, to combine and connect people, including divorce, etc. And he um he did that, and then of course, that idea flew into England, and then the US took it over. So it's a pretty new concept, which is wild. Yeah. I didn't know that. And then women, it took them a bit longer to be allowed to do these ceremonies, but I'm not sure if that was Australia strictly. I still have more diving to do, but I believe here in America, mostly women do this. I've seen a lot, I don't I take it back. I've seen JPs, and they they do both. So you can get your civil license. I know if you get a JP license, you have to have, I think it's a minimum of eight references from townspeople who give you a um good reference to be able to, you have to apply and then be able to get the JP license for that town that you live in. So that's interesting. And a lot of them get the notary republic. So there's a lot of different things that go into it. But what a story. And then finding out that the first recorded ceremonies were 14th century, and that it was pre-Roman times. I think Kim and I were talking about, we started diving deeper into our understanding, but you had the druids, you had all of that and the conquering going on. And what I have found that there's always this intertwining and weaving of different religions and cultures that come and they um they conquer and then they convert or insist that you do it. And all of these things take on their own life and just keep growing. So it's never black and white. There's always these nuances that go through the history. But that's what I found about that. I thought that was fascinating. Yes, indeed.
SPEAKER_01:I know the history behind things is, you know, it's eye-opening because you know, we think things are put together for certain reasons. Like I just read about the 13 months that it was supposed to be, and that, you know, run by the moon and 28 days in each month. And, you know, that's the way it was originally set up. But because of taxing purposes, um, the new year began in January as opposed to in the spring, and that um women, the whole feminist um movement was actually set up by the government so they could tax 50 more percent of the people. And I'm like, you know, whether that is, you know, I mean, it's it's kind of written down, so it's you know, there's a lot of proof. So fact checkers can, you know, go check that. But, you know, it's just like we don't where do we just go along with so many things, you know, and like even weddings now, it's the same thing. It's like people got into this fad of like, you know, destination weddings or basically spending the money that you would spend on a new home. You know, and I I don't diss anybody that wants to get married that way, but you know, it just seems like is there really a Consciousness involved with just going along with these new ways of doing things, or do we really like research it like you do and really understand why we're doing what we're doing and knowing all of the facts before we jump in and just do it because you know we've been told to. So I that's that's one of the reasons why I love so much that she does these sacred ceremonials because it there's so much history involved with it. And you're way more patient with learning about history than I am. So I can always you know refer to her, like, hey, what about that?
SPEAKER_02:But um, so yeah, it's it's pretty fascinating. Yeah, I think when you're interested in something, you always dive a little deeper. It's like Kim's knowledge of herbs and and her healing work and everything. It it's just it's extremely wonderful to be a part of. And I love being able to be with people who have that sacred knowledge and sacred knowledge, and when I say that, that just means that you've gone into yourself and you trust that. That is the one thing I'm working on is the sacred knowledge of of me and my work here, trusting that. And when you start doing that, it comes out, and and that's what that remembrance, yeah.
SPEAKER_01:Yeah, who you really are already. You come to that knowing. We talk about that all the time.
SPEAKER_02:So speaking of stories, can you tell the story? I know that in the beginning you mentioned that you are um certified in many different types of Reiki. And for people who are getting started, I know a lot of confusion is there are so many out there. Um, some people don't know which way to go. Um, so can you describe your journey of the one you started with and why you went to multiple ones? I too have multiple certifications in different ones. Um, but just you know, to tell the difference and to understand um why there is maybe so many out there. Are you ready? I have a perspective on that that I've uh that I've come to since I've been doing this. And what I what I know for me is that the common thread that weaves its way through Reiki is life force energy. That is that is it. And we all have that, I'm not gonna say gift, we all have that ability, hands-on. It's like I was watching a movie and it had to do with medical emergency, and they sent out an emergency crew to go to this accident scene, and they the bleeding, the bleeding out of the chest or whatever, and they said, put your hands on the bleeding and keep it there. And they say Reiki stops bleeding, and I'm thinking, duh, of course, even medical, they have you put your hand on the bleeding spot to keep it from gushing out life force, right? The blood, the life force. What I have also looked into, so we've got so I've got the Asui Rio, I started that, and I was certified in Reiki one with that, and then Reiki II with that. Reiki three, master, master teacher, Reiki three and four in Shumbala, they divide it, whereas others do not. They have the the Reiki master and master teacher usually together. Uh, that um that's when I combined everything. And what I do um is I take from all my master teachers the information I've saved every booklet, and I go through and I write up the manual that combines all the knowledge and wisdom that they have passed down. Oh, it was just the light. Oh, okay. Oh, um, so I'm I'm gonna try to weave my way around this. Um just give me a second so that it can make more sense um from my perspective of this. Back in so all right, so let's start with Dr. Asui. He came up with the symbols for his method way back when, and he had them actually downloaded. And I've read multiple books by a gentleman, Frank Petter, who went to Japan. He married, you read it too, right? You read yes, but I also have the um chicken and reiki that I am, he was the head of um, he was the third person down in chicken and reiki, and so I have worked with him. Oh, with Frank? Yeah. Oh, that's beautiful. I really like him. I really liked him through the books and the writing. He was the one who says, and I put it up when I'm teaching, there's no place for dogma in Reiki. And I love that he says that because dogma has infiltrated its way into the Reiki systems and the Reiki world. And people are now saying this is right, this is wrong, this can be part of Reiki, this cannot. You um, this is fake Reiki, this is not. And what I have found through um looking and research is back in the 90s, you know, because we practice the Asui method, and everyone who comes into it and can teach or expand on it, which Dr. Usui I think would love that, because he was blown away by what he found through being downloaded and accepting that and the healing. And there was a part in his development of this practice that really made him more renowned. And that's when there was a train crash, and there were multiple her people, and he was called in to help. So he's he's doing his hands, then he got his feet involved, and he was doing all of these things to help heal as many people as he could or help. And what I do in the Shambhala is is I when I attune, I attune the hands, the fingers, the feet, and the heart. And that's where it all comes from. And I'm I know it's from that. I don't know if the others talk about that. I've never heard that in my being um certified. So what I see is that as time goes on, more and more people are being downloaded, and then they develop their own, or they're being taught by people who are involved in it. So there's always this ebb and flow of learning, bringing in more knowledge, etc. And then in the 90s, things really started to crank up, and that's where Shimbawa came in. And so Saint Germain supposedly channeled through this gentleman in Scotland, yes, um, and gave more symbols and a little bit different approach, but it was not against the Asui, and that's why I combined them. It was part of it expansion, because there were more symbols presented, there were more ideas, so everything grows, and that's just my perspective. And I think it's beautiful that Reiki can be part of the Reiki world. I look at it as an expansion practice in any system that you choose or are drawn to. And I think that anyone who teaches it has that beautiful opportunity to present the system as they've been taught, and then ask their student, you do your research. My master teacher said that to me. You do your research, do more, find out more, expand your understanding, which I have done. I'm still in touch with my Ricky master teacher in Florida, who I took classes with for my master, master teacher. And we're still in touch. And it's that's the beauty of this. It's a community, and at the same time, it's it's a can be a tough community, just like any other business, because I think sometimes it becomes too business, too dogma. That's my perspective. I don't know if that's true or not for anyone else, but I've seen that, and I I really would love to try to have try to just get out there and just let people know. So when people come to me and want to do a class and be certified, I tell them what I do. I tell them go online, it explains it a little bit, and then see how you feel because there's the holy fire. Um, there's just so many different ones that are out there. I think, I think now there's probably, I forget. I was I counted uh via some research. Um I don't remember the amount, um, but there's quite a few different systems that are taught. And I feel they're all expanded from the original um Reiki brought to us, but it's been in existence for so much longer, way before Dr. Usui. And I know he knew that. And um I I don't know, he knew that, I didn't know him, but anyway, I there's just so much that can be expanded with the Reiki systems. And so I I'm working with this person now who wants to continue her Reiki studies, and she started with the holy fire, and I said, you can combine any of them, combine them because they're all life force energy, it's all about the healing through life force energy. It's a system to show you how, but then you go and you do, and that's why I call myself an intuitive healer because I use so many other tools, as well as the Reiki, but I think it's all life force energy through vibration, color, and sound. So it comes from our world, it comes from everything. So Reiki is a part of that, and it's a beautiful part of that. I mean, they have other systems, um, gin chin-jitsu, uh, other things that are life force energy. And the meanings of the words that are titled are Greeky, life force energy. Jin chin-jitsu, basically life force energy. And it's it's wonderful because we're all different, and yet we're all together. So everyone is attracted to a specific vibration frequency that you get not just from the system that you want to go for, it's also the people teaching it. So I always tell people go to your heart, go to your intuition, let that know, let that tell you if I'm the right teacher for you. Because I I can't tell them that, but I will certainly answer any questions. I don't know if that answered your question. That's a beautiful, I will expand that.
SPEAKER_00:I think it's great too that Reiki is now more uh accepted. It's used in hospitals and um I I'm also a Reiki master teacher, but I I love to go out in the community. I do um I go to the senior centers once a month and I I gave a talk about Reiki. They've never tried it, you know, usually. And so I give them Reiki, and most of the time it's their first time, and to see their openness and how it affects them is just heartwarming for me, just a little bit, you know, and I think it's really helpful. Whatever you can do, just bring it to the community, let people know that it's available, that it is not a religion, that it is from the heart, it is your life force energy that we all have. And I think you know, when when you get a mother, if if something happens to her child, she'll just put her hand on on you automatically. So it's just an automatic response. But anyway, I love Reiki and I love just that it's available to everybody.
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SPEAKER_00:Yeah, the benefits, yeah. Yeah, that's incredible. Reiki for what you do.
SPEAKER_02:Oh, thank you. Thank you for what you do. And you do the Yasui uh Rioho system, or what system do you?
SPEAKER_00:I I do, but I also um have some other uh modalities that I could combine that you know, crystals are different things that I use. Um yeah.
SPEAKER_02:So well, we know what the crystals who you know Kim was bringing one of yourself. Right. That's incredible. Then, you know, it's it's funny, I I see it. Uh I I actually worked with um a woman who she and I studied the Shimbala, and now she's she teaches and works with the Holy Fire, and that feels more comfortable for her. But she's been invited into hospitals to work with the testing and the efficacy of the Reiki treatments on nurses. And that was a study that they did, and she just recently was invited back for a more expansive uh testing of the efficacy of Reiki in this in another area in the hospital, which I I love that she can do that and is so willing to jump on that. And it just it brings to the world this is this is real, this is real, and it's um what there was something else you said. I'll remember it later, but it was very, very cool. I wanted to comment on it and now I can't, but I will either here or or elsewhere, but I will, yeah. A lot of things.
SPEAKER_00:Watch the replay and then and then just I'll reach out.
SPEAKER_02:Can't talk to color Facebook. Do you want to tell us how people can work with you in the different aspects, how they get in touch with you, and any upcoming ceremonies or events that you might be having? Well, I do have uh Reiki Share coming up this month, and it is next Saturday at the acupuncture clinic in Franklin. The I works in Franklin Mass. Yeah, not Franklin's in Franklin. Sorry, sorry, yes, there are two. And I I actually rent from them, and they've opened their place for me to come in and do my workshops and sessions. So you have to get in touch with me, and I'm gonna forget the phone number. So hold on one second, but it's at I have people reach out to me. It's easier on email. So it's Lee at Unity Eight, and the eight is the number eight. Healing.com is the um, yep, that's that. And it's also the website. So it's L E I G H L E I G H. Yes, sorry, it's not L E L E E. Uh, and then the website, which is in dire need of updating, which I'm working on, is Unity Unity8healing.com. So the eight is definitely the number, and that's the website. And I also have a Reiki 2 certification, and I also offer at the same time refresher. So if you've taken Reiki 2 but you want to come and refresh, you can do that without being certified because you're already certified. So I offer that at the same time, and that's in November. I think the date 15th is a Saturday, and I usually have that from 10 to 2. So that one signed up for 10 to 2. And I have one person and I like to have two for obvious reasons, but I've taken just one at one at a time. And as far as any ceremonies or anything, nothing coming up, no weddings coming up, but I'm always open. So the best way to get in touch with me is probably email because I do check that every day. And uh yeah. And we'll post that at the bottom of these videos so it'll be easy to get a hold of you. Thank you. Thank you, Lori. So is there any last advice or words of wisdom that you would like to share with the people out there? I I actually think I want to repeat what I wrote to myself that as we pursue our interests and we go for it, just pursuing your interests. It'll show you where you are and what your purpose is. And they used to tell us that when we were younger, we like because we don't think we know what we love, but we're always attracted to it. So I say go for it. And like we said earlier, if you're not sure, go for it anyway, because that'll lead you to what you love. That's and and go through life in love and kindness, unconditional love and kindness. It's a practice, a difficult practice. I'm kidding. Thank you, Lori. Thank you. Yeah, that was beautifully said. So if you've liked this video as much as we have, please like, share, and subscribe. And until next time, how is your intuition leading you to the next perfect step?