What Excites You About the New Year? Finding Practices to Prepare Us For New Change

The Next Perfect Step cohosts Kim McStay, Lori Tremblay and Laurie Mullen are energy healers and teachers with their own healing practices. They seek to provide a platform to those who are searching for guidance on how to navigate the shift in global consciousness. The podcast embraces spiritually awakened conversation and invites guests to share their healing gifts and knowledge.   Contact the hosts: thenextperfectstep@gmail.com.

Ready to trade traditional resolutions for something that actually sticks? We close the year by choosing a single guiding word—joy, fun, focus—to steer choices, reshape habits, and open space for what matters. We look back to honor growth, then turn toward the Chinese Fire Horse year, a season of freedom and action that asks us to move with courage, playfulness, and intent.

Our conversation starts with simple practices that build real momentum: journaling, walking, making art, and writing our own “morning news” that centers healing and possibility. Kim shares a powerful reflection on shifting attention from the playground of deception to the playground of intrigue—redirecting focus from fear to curiosity. We also talk about what’s changing at a systems level. The old structures feel misaligned with joy and care, and many of us are rebuilding locally through community-based activities, including homeschooling co-ops, community gardens, and shared skills that restore trust and intimacy.

We go deeper into perception and choice, especially in a world filtered by algorithms. Seeing with “eagle eyes” means seeing things from a higher perspective, disrupting belief loops, and asking better questions. We explore whether timelines are splitting or if something more accessible is unfolding—an invitation into the quantum field of possibility that we access through attention. Progress moves in waves, not all at once, which is why becoming a bridge matters. We reframe empathy from overwhelm to empowerment, remembering that regulated presence heals more than shared despair.

If you’re seeking a tangible reset, choose your word for the year, claim a small daily ritual, and let focus do the quiet heavy lifting. We’d love to hear your word, your wins, and what you’re building in community. Subscribe, share this with a friend who needs a hopeful reframe, and email us at  thenextperfectstep@gmail.com  with your ideas and stories.

Transcript

Welcome And Yearly Intention Setting

SPEAKER_00 0:02

Hello, everyone, and welcome to the next perfect step where all possibilities lie in conversation. I'm your co-host, Lori Mullen.

SPEAKER_02 0:14

And I'm your co-host, Mixday. Our podcast is a community-based platform where people can come to learn and thoughtfully share their ideas.

SPEAKER_01 0:26

I'm your co-host, Lori Trembla. We're here today at the coming to the end of 2025. So our today's topic, we thought we would share about the coming new year, not only our Zodiac, but the Chinese New Year and some of our thoughts and what it might mean to us. And we'd love to hear from you as well what some of the thoughts are that you have. So welcome. And we're happy that you're joining us today. So Lori, what are you what are your thoughts?

Joy, Fun, And Choosing Key Words

SPEAKER_00 0:59

Well, I mean, I just think that this is a wonderful time that we get to be present and really look back on our year and see how far we've come, right? Um I know that every year, instead of doing resolutions, I do affirmations or keywords that I want to bring with me throughout the entire year. In the last two years, my word was joy. And as I look back on the last couple of years, I really realized that not only were there so many moments of joy that just fill me up every time I think about it, but also that there were many, many ways that I was also shown all the areas in my life where I was holding myself back from joy. Um, and which has been a wonderful thing to look at also, um, because I got to shift those things and let more joy enter my life. And it's really a great time to pat yourself on the back to look at all the things you've accomplished. Um I, you know, I'd like to take this time as we're looking back to thank all of our guests who joined us this year. Um, our new co-host Kim for joining us. I mean, you know, she's brought a lot of joy to this conversation as well. And so I'm really joyful for all that. And I'm excited about my new word, which is fun. Um, that's what I am bringing into this year is fun in every aspect of my life, um, which was another key word that I thought was in, right? I want to do things in joy, in fun, in love, uh, in luxury, in in. Uh, so that's another word that I'm bringing into this year. Um, and as Lori says, I think that looking back at the year that we've just had and the excitement of looking forward to what this year brings. Um, you know, I'm a I'm a big avid on our animal spirits. And we're moving away from the snake, which was all about shedding our past and shedding things that we don't need to bring forward into this new energy and new year of the horse, which is all about freedom and action and um excitement. Um, so yeah, so that's just a little bit about what, you know, what is coming for me um this time of year, um, which all goes with what we've been talking about all year long, which is going within, right? And taking that time for self-reflection um for each and every one of us.

From Snake To Horse: Energy Shift

SPEAKER_01 3:50

So I like what you just said. Yeah, took a minute to I know, I was trying to unmute, sorry. I like what you said about um you know taking time to pat yourself on the back. Uh that's that's really great. And uh for me, uh with doing a lot of reflections, I'd I'd purposely take out my uh favorite journal and I write in the journal. I've I've been taking walks, doing more reflective types of things because I know that next year in the Chinese um New Year is the year of the horse, it's gonna be action-packed, it's the year of the fire horse. And I'm more of a um introspective person. I like to be quiet and you know, so I'm interested to see how that plays out for for me as as far as the contrast, but I'm also excited because I feel like there's all kinds of opportunities and new um new uh adventures coming. I like your word, Lori, fun. That's great. Uh for me, I'm I'm just wanting to uh I feel like all my creativity has been coming out and express expressing myself in a lot of different fun ways. And I want to use all of those things, all of those ways of creativity to be of service and to to just um shine. So that's what I could just want to come out and shine more, shine brightly. That's one of my ideas. So, Kim, what were you have? What did you have to say?

Creativity, Service, And Shining

Playfulness, Responsibility, And Community

SPEAKER_02 5:18

Yeah. Well, I, you know, I just reflecting back on this past year and you know, Laurie mentioning bringing that joy into fun, because there is a little bit of a difference with that. And I think that's pretty amazing that she's you know doing that little bit of a shift because I know for me, like I I'm very happy in my life, but I'm not playful. And you know, I would like to become a lot more playful. I was very playful as a younger person and very adventurous, and I, you know, my responsibilities have kind of helped to not have that be as um easily to attain as it used to be. But uh I I think too, looking back on, you know, like meeting you ladies, not only did we did you let me join this podcast, but you also have really helped me to motivate myself to get back into some of those avenues that I really love to share with the world, like with the horses. Um and, you know, just having that motivation and that friendship support to be like, you know, you got you got you've got this, you can do this. And it really brought me back to, you know, more of who I am. And, you know, raising Hayden for the last 18 years has been amazing and wonderful and so many different positive things, but it's also kept me from being, you know, my adventurous crazy self that I really enjoyed being at, you know, when I was younger. And, you know, as you guys know, that I kind of refer to my childhood as being a feral child. Um, so yeah, so that you know, that part being able to look back and just feel those accomplishments and feel that sense of more community and more support, and you know, just really getting back into who I truly am has been really a fun thing to reflect on. And um I did I did do a little, I journal as well, and I think we all have that in common. Um, but as far as like the the year of the snake going into the year of the horse, and um you know, for me, I I tend to, you know, get up at like four in the morning, and that's when I do either my meditations or my writing. And so this is something that kind of came to me during the time, and it basically breaks it down into you know what I think of as seasons. So it's not like the seasons, the four seasons, but like a form of vibrational energy that kind of sticks with us for however long it's going to. And this year, I believe has there's a lot of that that's sped up more so than any other time in my life that I can remember. And I've also had to really reflect on things that I've been bothered by and things that I've been looking forward to and excited by. So, anyway, so this is what I ended up coming up with. We are entering the year of the horse after a year of the snake. I saw the snake as the season of collecting data. I dove into the playground of deception, as what I like to call this world, and I looked at it, witnessing it with jaded eyes. The wars, the disregard for life and humanity, the lies that were told, the controversy, and the criminal behavior justified by those in powerful positions. I fell into my many rabbit holes and questioned everything that I was conditioned to accept as truth. I watched the virus of disempowerment strip the critical thinking out from under us. The snake is about clarification and sorting out, sorting it all out and going within for that clarity, practicality, and compartmentalizing all that you have witnessed and bringing it into your own personal truth, shedding what doesn't make your heart sing or fits you comfortably anymore. In this time of transference into the year of the horse, the fire horse, I shed the skin of what doesn't fit anymore. I realize that focus is a superpower, and that shifting my focus from what I don't want into what I do want isn't as hard as I thought, or was taught to think it was. Horses are about inner power and freedom. If I want that freedom, I must take action and run alongside of it. Embrace my inner power that can see the world is healing. I see babies coming into this world with large open eyes that see a beautiful future. They are tuned into a higher frequency and awareness. I hear young men honoring the struggles of women, knowing that being in relationship means offering their best self to her. I see horse trainers and riders seeking a deeper, more soulful connection instead of the controlling master approach that we used to do. I see gardeners, herbalists, and earth keepers sharing their knowledge of the earth's elements that assist us in our wellness and healing. This planet is shifting, and I believe it is my responsibility to help it spin off the shadows that have blocked the light, a light that is always shining underneath, no matter how dark it gets. I intend to embrace the power and freedom the horse offers and enter this shift with anticipation, inspiration, and curious observation. I am switching my focus from the playground of deception to the playground of intrigue. So that, you know, like I really have had to shed a lot of um, you know, what I see as negative and realize that the frequency of the world now is shifting in a really positive direction. So I'm very excited about this whole new um venture.

SPEAKER_03 11:06

So yeah, that's all I have to say for now. That was beautiful, Kim.

SPEAKER_01 11:16

Just really, that moved me. And you said it so eloquently. And um I just loved what you said about your shifting your perception and entering because you have a special relationship with horses and you can you know the spirit of the horse and you can identify with it. But I love how you're going into the new year with um a new intention and a new superpower focus. I love that. Thank you for sharing that.

Kim’s Reflection: Focus And Freedom

SPEAKER_00 11:45

Yeah, I really liked that perspective too. I think that focus is very important. Um, you know, I did um an exercise, one which I want to start doing again is every morning instead of getting up and listening to the news, I write my own news on what I want to hear in the news. Um, things like things to make this world better and not fall into all of the narrative we've been given. And you know, on either side. I mean, I have been talking for 10 years on how this world is so divided because we have two-party systems. And it's not us versus them, it's it's all of us together versus the corruption on all sides, right? And just clearing the path for us all being human together on this earth, and and it's so important to draw our focus and stop arguing about this side's the truth and that side's the truth, and neither one of them are true. And to open up and to we talked all year about doing things in a new way, and I really feel like this year we're gonna start seeing the new. I mean, I think last year with the snake was about shedding all that old stuff, and we don't know what the new is, and just being open and excited to see what comes forth and to hold that focus on being open to see the new and our focus being on the new instead of keep repeating the old.

SPEAKER_01 13:38

Right. Well said. Yeah, I've I've listened to um a few channels that um that I like, and that it's just about what you said that there's new energies coming in, and it's going to be available after the new year. We don't even know. We we can't we can't know what it is because we just we've it's new, right? We've never seen it before, we've never experienced this new energy. So I'm excited to um find out what's coming in as far as the new energy. So thank you for that point.

SPEAKER_02 14:17

Yeah, and I I you know I really feel like there's so much um shifting uh out of like, and I think I I spoke to you about this, Lori, and you mentioned that you had listened um about like the the different frequencies that are coming in and the the fact that I think was it Lee Harris that we were just talking about it, where like you know, we're gonna get out of that linear time and space. And I I haven't listened to it yet, which I will definitely do because I love him. Um, but you know, that it's it's time to drop so many of the old paradigms that were at the time set up for specific reasons and maybe did partially work back then. But, you know, like education and um the government and like all of the different systems that have been put into place forever, like Laurie McMullen said, we, you know, there is no sides. You know, like the only way that we're gonna really move through this and move into a much more joyful and fun and playful frequency is by dropping a lot of these old paradigms and systems that really don't, they don't um they don't address the joy and playfulness. You know, the governments are all serious and you know, and it's more about money and wars and whatever else. And the education system, you know, is more about learning facts and you know, being at a desk. And so I'm really seeing a huge shift in and you know, even online, there's like so many groups now that are doing homeschooling as a community, gardening as a community, raising livestock as a community. And, you know, we're getting to that point now where like not only do we need to do that out of not wanting to be, you know, have food that's been tampered with and poisoned, but that we we really want to form those communities again. Like I don't see it as a necessity because of something we're running away from. I see it as an opportunity because it's like such a beautiful thought for me to have you know communities all working together and you know, growing food together and teaching kids together and like going back to that real intimacy between, you know, relationships instead of this online, you know, and here we are on Zoom, but it's still a little more intimate than you know, than just staring at your phone by yourself all day. And I, you know, I just I feel like we're moving into that, and that really excites me.

Writing Our Own News And The New

SPEAKER_00 17:01

Yeah. And and to again, what we've all been saying is I think that this year is really gonna show so we've started to realize that none of our systems are working, right? And it's it's been it's been starting to be talked about, right? Like all of our different systems are based off of things that are just no longer working for us. For everybody, right? They need to work for everybody, not just some people, they need to work for everybody. But I think this year it's gonna be that turning point where we really see how it's not working, why it's not working, and then we'll be able to see something new at the same. Like this will be the end of we, you know, that snake. We started to see it, and then this year we'll be really in our face, like, no, this just is not working, and we're not putting up with it anymore. Like now we've kind of seen it. Now we're like, no, we're not putting up with this, it's not working, and we're not just gonna continue to do something that's not working anymore. I mean, if we look back, how many things in our own lives have we put up with that aren't working anymore? And we just keep doing it because that's the way it is, or it's easier, or whatever the reason is, we we just keep continuing to do it, and maybe some way because we don't know a new way, right? We haven't figured out the new way. And I think that that's what this year will be about was we're gonna be able to see the new, we're we're gonna be able to discover the new ways. We don't know it yet, but I have the faith that those new ways are going to present itself this year.

SPEAKER_01 18:45

I love what you said about you know, changing our uh the way we see that we're gonna see things and we're gonna change the way we want to have new solutions. And I think as Kim said, our our frequencies and vibration is raising, then we can't help but have new uh perspectives or new experiences or new ways of looking at things. I think that there's gonna be a lot of shifts in our perception as our vibration changes and our frequency changes, we'll be we'll be moving closer together in the more unified way towards love. That's that's kind of what Lori was saying too, I think, what you know moving to in Kim. But that's my dream too, is that we're gonna be moving together, be in union, and also just just participate and contribute to the welfare and the well-being of ourselves and of our fellow uh humans and animals and plants. Um, I think it it's all it all matters and it's all coming to a a beautiful new uh new way.

SPEAKER_03 19:52

So thank you for sharing that, both of you.

SPEAKER_02 19:58

So just out of curiosity. You know, like I've um done some you know different um readings and watching YouTube and you know this and that and everything else. And um like Dolores Canon, for instance, you know, what do you what are your feelings on that with like the timelines? Because I sometimes I think, you know, like we're talking about that this good vibe higher vibrational frequency is coming, but is it coming for the entire world, or are we really experiencing this shift in a few different directions? And I I mean, I don't want to sound crazy, but I feel like that's what's happening is that you know, I kind of buy into what I don't think it's just two different timelines. And I think she talked more about that with two different worlds. I think it's multiple um dimensional, universal, whatever. But that, you know, the the more like the if we focus more on like all this higher vibrational um frequencies that are coming in, is it is all this other stuff gonna fall away and still exist in another timeline? Or are or is it gonna just be obliterated because like what you said, Laurie Tremlay, um, once you raise that frequency, you can't help but be in a better place because it you know you just you know it doesn't match anymore. So I I'm just curious what your thoughts are on that, both of you.

SPEAKER_00 21:31

So I keep go ahead, Laurie.

SPEAKER_01 21:34

No, well, thank you. Um I've heard that you know, as more light comes in, you're gonna see the the crud. That's all around us, right? But is is to your point, Kim. I think for for me, I think that no, we're not gonna all be um transformed at the same time and be, you know, in in unified love and communion at the same time. No, I don't think so. I think it's um because we all have choices, right? We all have we all have free will, so we can make our own choices. Yes, we want to learn more, yes, we want to grow, or no, we want to stay sick, or no, we want whatever the situation is. I think that everyone is gonna be getting to that point, but not at the same time. That's my opinion. What do you think, Lori?

Systems Changing And Local Community

SPEAKER_00 22:24

Yeah, no, I I agree with you too. I think that um I I don't believe that people are gonna be left behind. Um, I I have been hearing, and I guess I have formed my belief around that I believe timelines are collapsing. There's not going to be timelines. So they're all collapsing. Um at the end of this year, I've started really um for some reason the quantum field. I mean, I've always known about it, but for some reason there's something new about it and it's really presented itself to me. And I don't know where that's going, but I there's something about shifting almost, I feel like shifting from timelines to the quantum field, and everybody has access to it. So it's not just your personal timeline, but this big field where we all have access. But I I but I also believe like what we talk about bridges, right? And whoever the new energy and the new vibration we align with first, we're bridging that for everybody else to eventually come. But I do agree with Lori. I don't think it's gonna be like this one bam and we're all there. Um but I I don't necessarily think it's gonna it like we're separating timelines or anything like that. I just think that it's gonna go in waves, almost like in waves. And as you shine your light, it helps other people to see their own. And I kind of feel like that's all how kind of it's gonna go. Um we've talked about before, like when we start seeing new things and we're seeing things collapse, that it affects people in different ways. So some of us might see it as the light, and some other people might see it as the dark, right? So I think that it's just about perspective. Like you said, Kim, where your focus is and your perspective. I think we're all eventually gonna get there. I just think that it's like Lori said, it's not gonna be all at once. I uh we did come with choices, right? We also came with lessons, and a lot of us have been, that's what we've been working on, right? Like to see things differently, to do things differently. And those people stuck in the same rut might need longer to open their eyes and to shift things for themselves. And that goes in a lot with belief systems, right? I mean, if you're constantly Googling something, they know what you want to hear, and that article is gonna come up for you, and you're gonna say that's true every single time because that's what you want to believe, that's what you want to see, that's what you are focused on. And so until we can all change that perspective, um things shift differently for everybody. Um, and it's a choice, what you want to see, right? I mean, most of us say, don't we all want joy, but honestly, some people are comfortable and happy in misery, right? Um in um, you know, sayings like if I if I didn't have bad luck, I'd have no luck. I mean, we all know the power in words, and people are just they can't see past that. It's that faith of knowing that nope, that doesn't exist. That's not my belief anymore. And uh we just need to be patient and hold that space, and eventually, I do believe we'll be the bridge for everybody to come to that place. And I don't know if I made sense. You know me, I just jambled a whole bunch of stuff.

SPEAKER_02 26:12

No, it does, it does make sense. And I think it's super, I think it is super important that people, you know, understand what you were saying about like the algorithms and stuff. Like if you, you know, if you keep looking at these different things, you're gonna get exactly what you need to hear next to convince you that that is correct. And I really see it in like the um, you know, with politics that you know, people are either on one side or the other, but they're saying the same thing and they're upset about the same stuff. But they're blaming the other for um, because those are the things that they're hearing and seeing on the internet that you know, this is bad, this is bad, you know, and or and this is good, this is bad, and vice versa. And and they've even done that with um with the ETs and you know, alien stuff, you know, there's good aliens and bad aliens, and whatever you believe in, that's what you're gonna see. On I I stopped watching all that stuff because I just felt like I watched one thing and just because I was curious, and then I go get all of these things to support that. And I'm like, wait a minute, I'm not sure that I did support that, but you know, i I couldn't find the the the controversy part. So, you know, it's just really, it's just really interesting how that all shifts, you know. So I think that was a really good point you made, Laurie, about that. That, you know, be careful what you get wrapped up into because it's just gonna convince you to get wrapped up even more.

SPEAKER_00 27:37

Right. Yeah. And I believe going back to animals and animal spirits, right? Um, like we're seeing through human eyes when we see through those kind of things. And I think that um ahead of us, we're gonna start seeing with eagle eyes, right? So we can see the whole big picture. We're not just seeing the um theme or the article in front of us. We suddenly get to see all of it, right?

Timelines, Quantum Field, And Choice

SPEAKER_01 28:07

I like that that perspective seeing with eagle eyes. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 28:12

I know, I like that too.

SPEAKER_01 28:15

I was taking a walk in the mountains, uh, you know, maybe last week, and there was a an owl that flew and landed right in front of me, and I was just so thrilled. And I feel like when things like that happen, there's a reason, or you should, you know, maybe see if there's a message from the animal spirit. Not always, but I like to I like to think that. And I I love to um be able to, I think we are are limiting ourselves when we don't have the perspective of communicating with animals and plants and stones and this and just birds and everything. There's just so much more. I just keep finding that there's more and more and more that the more I think I know, the less I I realize I do know. And so it's just a joy and really fun to learn and to experience and to find new perspectives. And that's what I want more of in the coming year. I want to just be open and just see what happens and just grow more. That's that's what I'm looking forward to.

SPEAKER_02 29:22

I like the growing more, that's nice. Yeah, I I think we could all stand to, you know, I mean, I you know, I I never understood why certain people just don't really find the excitement about growing, you know, like they they're happy where they are, and there's nothing wrong with that. I'm not judging that. I just don't really understand it. Like, you know, I sometimes I would wish that I could do that and just kind of marinate in my own life and not, you know, want to explore, want to observe, because it can be kind of exhausting sometimes, but um fun exhausting, but still, you know, it brings up, you know, I'm my own algorithm. I bring up all kinds of stuff to support my weird thoughts. And um, yeah, it goes on endlessly. So yeah, there's that growth aspect that I just find super fun.

SPEAKER_01 30:13

Well, I like what you said because you're your own algorithm, but I like our our uh friendship in our podcast because we get to bounce off these ideas off of each other. That's the fun part for me, too, is that that we can have these conversations. You can't have conversations like this with everybody, but you can have them here. And that's what you say. We we provide a safe spot for these types of conversations, which are really interesting and fun, and we can express ourselves and express our feelings and ideas and just talk to each other about them, which I I just that's why we started the podcast, and I love it.

SPEAKER_00 30:55

So, are there any last thoughts or advice we'd like to share for the upcoming new year?

SPEAKER_02 31:06

Yeah, I think I think for me it's just I I want to continue to stay in that inspired, um, curious position so that I can I can look like with the eagle eyes, that I can look at the world as a bigger picture and you know, find the fascination in it. And, you know, instead of getting wrapped up into anything that is gonna drag me down into this place that I don't really need to be if I don't want to. And and again, it's much easier to switch your focus than I ever imagined. I mean, I was always taught it wasn't easy and you had to deal with this. And um, and one of the things that I I wanted to kind of talk about here today was I had to really fight with myself about not feeling guilty for not being involved with the vibrational frequency or the you know, the mess of um war and and you know, like why is my life nice when this person is getting blown up in their, you know, like I I really had to teach myself to separate that and to live in my own light because that's gonna reflect, and you mentioned that earlier, Laurie Mullin, you know, that when you shine your light, it it does filter over. And there's nothing that I can physically or immediately do for anything that's going on in the world outside of my own little world. So I have to keep my own little world in a really functional, um, balanced, grounded way. So that's what I kind of wanted to say.

SPEAKER_00 32:48

Bouncing off.

SPEAKER_01 32:49

Which helps everyone else, right? Because what we do in our vibration bouncing off of what you said, Kim.

SPEAKER_00 32:56

Sorry, I think so.

SPEAKER_02 32:57

I hope so.

SPEAKER_00 32:59

I have said this before, and I will say this a billion times over. If I could just announce it to the entire world, you can never be poor enough to make someone rich, you can never be safe enough to make somebody else safe. You can never be sad enough to make somebody else happy. You can be truly, fully happy and show somebody else who's sad that they can be that too. You can't feel bad because your life is happy when somebody else is in war. Um, because you can't be unsafe enough to make that person not be there.

unknown 33:42

Right.

SPEAKER_02 33:42

No, and I I really think that, yeah. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01 33:48

And I believe that your peace and your joy and everything that you do to raise everything that everyone can do to raise their vibration truly does affect everyone else because we are connected. It's and I know that's hard to understand, but it's the it's truth. Like it's in the quantum field, we are all energy, we're all connected, so we do affect each other. So you do your best to be peaceful and joyful and loving. And that's a that's a big deal.

Algorithms, Perception, And Eagle Eyes

SPEAKER_00 34:19

Right. And that doesn't mean that, you know, like you what you were saying, Kim, was that if you're in the place you're in standing strong, that you can't help that cause and you can't do something about it and educate. And there's there's things you can do, but feeling bad is not one of the things that is that energy that's helping that person is just what I'm trying to say is you can't match their energy. You need to try to do it the other way around. Have them, you know, stand in a solid energy where you are able to affect that.

SPEAKER_02 34:56

Right, right. Yeah, no, I agree. I, you know, and I'm I've been working very hard on all that.

SPEAKER_00 35:04

Laurie, did you have go ahead, Kim? No, keep going.

SPEAKER_02 35:08

Well, the the whole empath, you know, being an empath and things that there's a couple of different types of empaths. And, you know, I've kind of gone back and forth to both of those types of empaths. And I think it's really important to not get so wrapped up in that that you're part of the problem. Like you were saying, you know, you can't, you just can't be part of the problem. And when you're all wrapped up into what other people are feeling, and that's all you're feeling, you're you can't keep yourself balanced and aligned. So um it's just it's a it's a real it's it's a responsibility to keep yourself in balance and aligned.

SPEAKER_00 35:45

Well, I think there's so many empaths, and we talk about it, and you start off, but there's a real energy with empaths where you can either be an empowered empath, which is you helping other people because of the knowledge you're given, and there's a victim mentality of in path, which is you being affected by somebody else's. And we all start in the victim mentality with empath, and but we really need to shift it to the empowered empath, which is we are that feeling is information and not affecting you.

SPEAKER_03 36:21

Right. Right.

SPEAKER_00 36:26

So Lori, any last words?

SPEAKER_01 36:28

Yeah, I just want to I just want to say something really quickly. Is I'm very, very, very grateful for each one of you and for our listeners. And I would love to um have a more engaged community with our listeners. Like, feel free to write in um comments. Uh you can contact us at uh thenextperfect step at gmail.com if you'd like to be a guest, or if you have questions or something resonated with you, or if you have an idea for a future topic. Um, we just really want to be more um connected with with you, and we're grateful for your that you're listening and watching and it and it is growing, and we're so happy for that. So I'm looking forward to the new year with all of you. And I'm as I said, I'm very grateful.

SPEAKER_00 37:17

That's awesome, Laurie. And I agree. I mean, please share with us how what were your key takeaways from last year? What are you excited about for this year? Uh, we'd love to hear um about all of your achievements and your excitement for the upcoming year. We are excited we have a ton of new guests for you in the upcoming year that we're already excited about and holding space for any of your comments and ideas as well. So if you've enjoyed this episode as much as we have, please like, share, and subscribe. And until next time, and until next year, how is your intuition leading you to the next perfect step?