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Wisdom from the Farm: Herbal Healing with a New Hampshire Herbalist

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We’re on location at The Olde Ways at Mustard Seed Farm in Tuftonboro, NH with herbalist and farmer Dina Farrell for a grounded, practical conversation about herbal medicine, local living, and plant‑based wellness.

Dina walks us through her farm shop and shares her favorite herbal tea blends for sleep, anxiety, digestion, and focus, plus why inflammation shows up so often in her customers’ lives. We explore her turmeric chai, multi‑herb “super blend,” body oils, salves, witch hazel toners, and how she sources organic LCO2‑extracted CBD from a trusted Maine farm.

We also talk about the community side of her work — local artisans, workshops, and the family stories that inspired her herbal path — before heading outside to meet chamomile, anise hyssop, catnip, angelica, and witch hazel in the gardens.

If you love herbalism, natural remedies, farm‑to‑cup tea, or New Hampshire travel, this episode is for you.

Learn more about Dina at www.theoldeways.com or on Facebook at The Olde Ways at Mustard Seed Farm.

Hosts Kim McStay & Lori Tremblay 
Contact: thenextperfectstep@gmail.com


Welcome At Mustardseed Farm

SPEAKER_02

Hi everybody and welcome to the next perfect step. Today we're on location at the Old Ways on Mustardseed Farm with Dina Farrell.

SPEAKER_00

And she's here in Tuftenboro with this beautiful mountainside. Dina is not only a good friend of mine, but she is also an herbalist, and she's a farmer, and she's amazing with all this growth that she has around her, and it's a beautiful spot. And I'm gonna let her, we're gonna take it inside so it's not as noisy, and she's gonna explain to you about the mountains behind her. So welcome, Dina.

SPEAKER_01

Thank you, Kim and Lori. Um, I'd like to tell you about the Ossipee Mountain Range, which we see behind us, and it is an old volcano that exploded, imploded on itself. It forms a perfect ringdite, which is a very rare formation, and it has several ponds that are almost bottomless, part of the old volcano uh crater. And uh there's a lot of folklore. Indians spent a great deal of time there. There's a lot of relics. Some of the stones that uh came from the volcanic eruption were used to make their arrowheads, and they've been found uh all the way down the east coast. So the Indians traded because they always came back here.

Inside The Shop And Local Makers

SPEAKER_00

That's pretty exciting. All right, so we're gonna pause this a little bit, go inside out of the noise, and we'll see you in just a brief second. So here we are in Dina's store, and the thing that is my favorite thing about her store is that she has a lot of local art artisans that come here and they sell their goods. And for me, that is so important because of community and you know, getting people together and sharing what they do best, what they know, honeys and teas. And I'm gonna really get Dina to talk about her tea mixtures and things like that today. But um, so Dina, tell us a little bit about your store and why you started this.

SPEAKER_01

Um initially, um, I've always, as long as I can remember, made herbal products and teas. I sold at farmers markets, renaissance fairs, and different events. And I thought it would be really nice to actually stay home in my gardens. So we had this shop built. It's been here four years now. Um, again, along with my herbal products, are local artisans and they just add a lot a lot more character to the shop. And I love supporting local. As a matter of fact, all the wood that um was used to build this shop came locally. We have a logger and a sawmill on this street. So it was all created here, and uh a local carpenter put it all together for us.

SPEAKER_02

That's kind of like the old days, too. Yeah, we used to do that, come together, build, and that's great.

SPEAKER_01

So you also have workshops here. I do. I do uh classes on and again, and sometimes with Kim here. Um primarily herbal classes, but Kim and I are doing a whole um, I guess it's it would be a series of the Divine Feminine, which also includes herbs and energy work. And uh was something we started this winter and it's been going along quite well.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and it's it's nice to again that whole community and giving women a place to come and you know be who they are, talk about what is important to them and really be heard. And you know, I'm I'm very excited Dina asked me to be on board with that. So yeah.

SPEAKER_02

The last one we had um some divine feminine rituals for spring, and Dina made us all footbath, which was really nice.

Tea Blends For Sleep And Focus

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, it was really great. So I'm gonna actually try to take the camera around a little bit and scan her store, and I'll let Dina talk about each space that I stop to kind of look at because it's just, you know, there's so many incredibly cool things to look at in here. So bear with me. I'm gonna try to keep this as steady as I can as we go. And all right, so the first place I'm going to go is over here. And Dina, go ahead and explain to us. So I can't. And if you want to are you in there? Yes, you're in there too. Okay.

SPEAKER_01

So I have some of my tea blends that I've made. Um, a lot of the teas, the herbs, I I'm growing myself. That's my goal to grow as much as possible. But I do buy in other things like black and green tea and some of the herbs that I can't grow here, like turmeric or cinnamon. I also on the shelf have a local coffee uh roaster. She lives right on this street, and her coffee is in the case. I'm going home with some of that. And if we scoot over here, this this is actually, we'll go to the second one because that's full. This is my tea cupboard. Um, and I've been adding to the amount of teas. I'm always trying to come up with new teas. Um, I have a lavender blend, which is very, very relaxing and calming. Um, all different for different things. One of my favorites is the super blend, which is a blend of seven different herbs that is wonderful for treating inflammation and building the immune system. I actually have quite a few that that help with inflammation. Inflammation seems to be a big, big issue. I have a wonderful turmeric chai for inflammation.

SPEAKER_00

Um, a lot that's the root of a lot of health issues with people. So this is this is the place to go, people, because it's natural and a lot better for you than some of those um synthetic drugs.

SPEAKER_01

And it tastes good. And there is no sugar. And I mean, if you want, you can add a little bit of honey, but I think they taste great just the way they are. I also have teas for anxiety, for helping you to sleep, for digestion. Um, some of my new teas, um, forget now. Some of my new newer teas, um like the remember me tea is is for brain health. Um, and just to help you to stay alert and aware and keep that concentration.

Oils Sprays Salves And CBD Care

SPEAKER_00

Nice. Okay, now we're gonna go to this middle section here. So I'll let you, I mean, these are just amazing.

SPEAKER_01

Okay, so these are my herbal products. This is really what I initially started with selling at farmers markets. Um, there's everything from body oils to let me scoot in here a little bit. Um, body oils to fragrance sprays that can be used as linen sprays, room fresheners, or body sprays. Um the oils have different benefits. Some are for circulation, some are extremely relaxing, um, help with muscle issues. Uh, I do have an herbal salve, which I'm all out of. Uh, right now, my my shelves. This is I just had a soft opening last this this past week, so we're not fully stocked yet. But my herbal healing salve is a blend of many different herbs, primarily comfrey. So it it helps with inflammation and pain. I must give that disclaimer that I'm I'm not a medical practitioner. These herbs are known to do these things, and it's it's only my my opinion and the opinions of people that use them.

SPEAKER_00

And there's a lot of really positive opinions out there. And research, yes.

SPEAKER_01

So one of my best sellers, um, besides my tick spray, is my Mermaid's Mist, which was initially named after my daughter, Margot, so it was Margot's Mist. But um, when we started doing Renaissance Fairs about 15 years ago, it became Mermaid Mist, and it's a lavender lemongrass blend, and it's just a heavenly fragrance. I have some skincare products, um, a facial cleanse that's non-drying, made with honey, apple cider vinegar, and um castile soap. I have a wonderful lavender facial spray, which is a toner astringent. I have lotions. Um, right now I only have lavender, but one of my better sellers is the Sweet Melissa, which is made from lemon balm and colundula.

SPEAKER_00

And by the way, she a lot of her um classes that she gives during the year are based on how she makes some of her products. And a lot of times you go home with something really cool.

SPEAKER_01

I always like to send people home with something. Um, I have an herbal tea blending class that I do regularly. I have an herbal folklore class that's really fun where we we experiment a little with absinthe. Um, both Laurie and I have been to that one.

SPEAKER_02

That was a good one.

SPEAKER_01

That was a good one. Uh so I have uh some classes where we actually make sobs and and other products. We do a lot of outdoor classes once once the weather's nice, like a day like today. Um always thinking of new classes too. So they they vary as we go along.

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Let's see.

SPEAKER_01

I do I do uh make C V D products. I have a wonderful farm in Maine that I get all my C V D from. It's LCO2 extracted and organic. And the C VD products that I make are body oils and salves. And again, primarily for pain and inflammation that with the herbs that they they have a lot of herbs in them as well as the CVD. So they have added benefits. Um, circulation, relaxation, healing, scars, some good healing.

SPEAKER_00

And and back pain for I've used it for back pain in the past, and it's worked really well for me.

SPEAKER_01

All types of pain, especially um I have arthritis, so arthritic pain. I I I literally bathe myself in these oils, and they smell wonderful. I really do. Down below, I have my repellents. Um tick repellent again, is one of my bestsellers. Uh ticks occur everywhere up here, and it uh it may not kill the ticks, but it keeps them off for your body. And it has a wonderful rose fragrance because it's made with rose geranium. And then I have a typical mosquito repellent. Primary ingredient is citronella, but it has other other herbs in there, so it's not that overwhelming fragrance. If we scoop over here, I've um these are my so somewhat my sample teas, and I've uh I've done some of the herbs up in one ounce packages. Um, things like ashwaganda, elderberry, stevia, mullion. I have a chaga. I do sell chaga, and that all comes from the Maine and New Hampshire White Mountains. Oh I try to keep everything local as much as I can. I think my my furthest vendor is in the Carolinas, and and that would be the candles. Um, I have this blend that is I I take it every morning. It's one of my favorites. I I highly recommend it to most people. It's it's a turmeric blend with with other herbs, ashwagandha, cat's claw, stragalus, cinnamon, black pepper. That is just amazing for inflammation. I initially made it to treat lime, but it I found that it it's it just covers all the gamuts of inflammation. And again, it's my opinion. Is that a new blend? No, I've I've had this one for a few years now. Maybe to try that.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

And um I sell things as simple as cinnamon, but it's a Ceylon cinnamon, which is not your typical gassia cinnamon that you get in the grocery stores. It's just a much better, better, uh, more beneficial cinnamon. Something new that I've started this year, and I just started bottling them up, um, are just your culinary herbs. You know, I kinda always went with the herbal um remedy type things, but I always use the culinary herbs as well, and they have medicinal benefits. People just don't think of it, they put it in a different classification. Um, but I've I have some nice blends like Jamaican jerk. One of my favorites is the Herbes de Provence, which is just a blend of many different herbs, including lavender, which a lot of people don't realize you can eat lavender. And it's wonderful.

SPEAKER_00

I learned that from you. I didn't realize that either. So yeah.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, and then just sweet basil and uh cari powder, and again, I'm adding to this. I hope to do a few more shelves full of culinary herbs. So, Dina, if our listeners are are interested in ordering some products, how would they do that? I do have a website. Um, I'm not an online kind of person really, but um, most of my products are on the website. If you don't see something, or if there's something particular you're looking for that I can even make for you, you can contact me through the website. And it's theoldways.com with an E after Old. Great.

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Okay.

SPEAKER_00

And then over here.

SPEAKER_01

Uh these are my um facial washes and and cleansers. Um, they're more of a uh toner astringent. I actually have a class where we make these, and they're which we've both been to. So they're me, it's with witch hazel. I have witch hazel bushes, they look like trees now, and we we process the branches and the leaves and we make witch hazel and um we add our our herbs and steep our herbs.

SPEAKER_02

Um and address that all the time.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, it's it's um it just keeps you fresh and clean and confused. Witch hazel is is one of those herbs that people use all the time without realizing it really is an herb. Right. It's at it's at all the grocery stores and pharmacies.

unknown

Great.

SPEAKER_00

But it's better to make it yourself. Oh, it is, yeah.

SPEAKER_01

It's a different thing altogether. Um I I do use um a strong grain alcohol to blend it. The ones that you get in the store have like isopropyl alcohol. Oh, okay. So grain alcohol is a little more natural too. And that's used as a preservative. If you if you you could just use use it um with a water base, but you'd have to keep it in your refrigerator. And I don't sell it that way because it wouldn't preserve on the shelves. Right. It can be made that way.

SPEAKER_02

And you have animals here too. I do.

SPEAKER_01

Um the chickens, I don't know if we've heard them.

SPEAKER_00

They were we heard them a minute ago, but yeah, they'll be wandering up onto the porch soon, I'm sure.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, the door's open, so they may try and make their way in.

SPEAKER_00

So, how about uh the soaps and it all of that?

SPEAKER_01

The soaps are made by a lovely lady from Maine. I met her at the Renaissance fairs. Um, she uses a 15th century recipe, and all of her soaps are made with olive oil. Um, she's a firm believer in no plastic, so she really promotes um shampoos, shampoo bars, um, even you know, the laundry detergent sustain sticks. She has um an all-purpose soap that can be used to wash the dishes, to clean almost anything, really. It's just um a different concept. Everybody thinks of squeezing something out of a bottle as opposed to rubbing a rag on a bar of soap. But it the old ways. Yeah, yes, and it you know, saves the world.

SPEAKER_00

It really does, yeah. And and your brother makes those, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, my brother is uh is a uh metal worker. He's he's uh he actually teaches art metal classes. I have a few of his things in here.

SPEAKER_00

All right, and let's take it over to the back room.

SPEAKER_01

Well, the back room is a working room. Oh, is it?

SPEAKER_00

Okay, we're not gonna go to the back room. We'll go to the counter and see some of this artwork that is also I love that. That's beautiful. I love these charms.

SPEAKER_01

And yeah, you know, I have some in my house as well, and when the sun shines through, it just makes these beautiful little rainbows all over the house.

SPEAKER_00

That's so nice. I love that.

SPEAKER_01

That's made locally and cards, greeting cards. Tell us about your cash register. Uh the cash register was acquired at a local antique shop where the woman there was retiring. She was, I believe she was 98 years old. And I wasn't able to purchase it from her, but I I got there a little late, but she told me the auctioneer who was taking all of her things. So I acquired the cash register. I acquired a baking cabinet that I use for jewelry.

SPEAKER_00

Okay, and the jewelry is amazing too. As a matter of fact, I'm wearing a bracelet from here that I bought, and it's incredibly artistic.

SPEAKER_01

Adriana makes the jewelry, and she's she lives right next door in Ossipe. She does a beautiful job.

unknown

Okay.

SPEAKER_02

So, Dina, can you tell us a little bit about how you get interested in herbs? Like I know your great-grandmother was.

SPEAKER_01

Right, right. I told you a little story about my great-grandmother, and I actually have a photo up there. I don't know if if oh if you might have to.

SPEAKER_00

Oh, yes, we have it. Yes, we definitely want to see the photo. The one with this one. Oh wow. There she is.

unknown

Wow.

SPEAKER_00

That's pretty neat. You get a lot of nice old photos there next to the street Annie.

SPEAKER_01

The house was built in 1801. It's an old farmstead. But my um my great-grandmother, she was she was my inspiration through my grandmother. My grandmother told me stories about her. My grandmother didn't know a lot, but she knew enough to spark an interest in me. My uh great-grandmother, that photo was taken up in Canada. My grandmother's not in the picture, but her sisters are. Um, she had a good friend that was an Indian and she worked with her extensively. She had books that she had written, personal books, um, but they were all destroyed by my great-grandfather who believed it to be witchcraft. You know, after she had passed, yes. But she um she worked with herbs uh to heal people. She was known in the community to help help people. One man in particular, a story I remember, he um he came to her because his wife had one significant disease that was going through. I don't know if it was tuberculosis or or something, scarlet fever, not sure. Um, but my great-grandmother told him to take a beetle from a sheep, put it in some jam, and feed it to her. And it it healed her. I've never been able to figure out what kind of beetle it was. I, you know, again, I don't remember the disease. I was a little girl when she told me these stories, but they they always fascinated me.

SPEAKER_00

That's pretty amazing. It really is. That's wild.

SPEAKER_01

And my my grandmother grew extensive flowers and gardens, and again, she never told me enough, but but she would've DNA. Yes, absolutely. And she would feed me and my cousins as we'd walk through the yard, you know, and she'd say, Here, eat this, and you know, she'd say sourgrass, and actually it was sheep's oral. I found that out years later. And her rhubarb and her her many different plants that she fed to us. So yeah, that really sparked the interest. It's great that it's continued through the generations. Yes, you know. And I have two daughters, and and right, you know, they've they've learned a lot. There's they're they're in their teens right now, but um they've picked up quite a bit, more than they think they do. And my I have older sons, and uh, especially my oldest son, he's he's really starting to to utilize some of this knowledge, which is nice to have.

SPEAKER_00

That's great. Yeah, that's great.

SPEAKER_02

They can use it for their families, and right, that's wonderful. What like can you tell us about um maybe a few herbs and what they can do for you and how they can help? I don't know if you'd like to step outside. Sure.

SPEAKER_01

Sure, can I absolutely do that?

SPEAKER_00

Let's pause.

Garden Walk Chamomile Angelica Witch Hazel

SPEAKER_01

So here we are in your garden. Yes, it's uh this is an exciting time of year because things are just starting to puff up and you never know what's gonna pop up. I mean, you always worry about it. Last year we had extreme droughts, but I'm very thrilled that the chamomile is all coming back in full force. Um I made the mistake of actually planting it here once. Um I had I arranged these beautiful stones to make a garden. When this is all ready to harvest, it's it's about this tall, and you don't see any of the stones, but it's beautiful chamomile. And I love that it just keeps reproducing on its own. And I don't know if you can kind of zoom in here. It jumps, it jumps everywhere, it goes where it wants. Um, at first I tried moving it to where I wanted, but now I've just decided that I'll let the plants grow where they want to grow. And uh they know best. White flowers, little white daisies, and it is so relaxing and therapeutic to get my little stool here and sit and pick up pick off each little flower bud. You know, you just pick up the little daisies, and that's how I utilize it. I dry it to make a chamomile tea.

SPEAKER_00

I use it with my dog. I um dry it and put it in her food. Yeah. Um, of course, I'm not a doctor, so don't do what I do without checking with your vet first, but it does help to calm her down.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, very calm. It's great with digestion. Um, it was always used to help babies to treat color. So it has a lot of benefits. Another herb that's popping up everywhere. I have garden of these two herbs, but I let them go where they want. They're just daring. It's my anise hitsop, and I have some catnip in here. And uh catnip isn't just used for cats, or they don't feel like that, but it's very calming for for humans. It's it's great for digestion. And uh anise hitsop is just one of my favorites. It's it's a sweet anise flavor, but it's it's I have to specify it's not that. Black licorice taste that everybody seems to dislike. It's very flavorful. It's a wonderful herb. And it's a lot of it. I do use it in cookies. The old Italian anise cookies, I use anise hyssop instead of the star anise. And you know the leaves and flowers are edible, so they make beautiful decorations for great goods.

SPEAKER_02

And this is early spring, so it's just starting.

SPEAKER_00

We'll have to come back when it's in full bloom and all that.

SPEAKER_01

I just want to show you another one. This is one of my favorites. And it took me a couple years to get it.

SPEAKER_00

I bought one last year.

SPEAKER_01

Angelica.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, big old celery.

SPEAKER_01

It's related to celery and carrot. It's it's much like uh lovage, which is another herb which is very similar, but it has a very strong celery taste. It's a woman's herb. It helps with it's known to help with cramps and menopause. It's a it's great for the digestion. It's very bitter, kind of tingles your tongue when you eat it. So anything like that gets your saliva going, it's good for good for your stomach. And it's it's just beautiful. It grows. Gosh, sometimes seven, eight feet tall, has a big, beautiful umbrella-looking flower that it's very fragrant. Wow. So it's just a fun herb to drop. It's a biannual, so um, this is the second year for this month, so it will form a flower and go to seed, but then it does. So hopefully next year it will need lots of babies to make up for its loss.

SPEAKER_00

That's great.

SPEAKER_02

You have witch hazel wishes out here.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, everything I mean, it's it's April.

SPEAKER_00

A little lifeless right now.

SPEAKER_01

So um, I mean, I have mint all grown in here, which I was very concerned about because it just turned black last year from the drought. But the the baby mints are coming up.

SPEAKER_00

Oh good.

SPEAKER_01

They're all these are uh chocolate mints.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, beautiful piece of property, and she has gardens all up through there, too. Which will definitely come back when they're in bloom, and we can we can see a lot more with that.

SPEAKER_01

We have our witch hazel tree over here.

SPEAKER_00

That's what mine looks like now, too.

SPEAKER_01

They look terrible, but you can see all the little buds coming out. Oh, I know, they're trying. You can see the scent flowers, they they bloom in late fall and sometimes through the winter.

SPEAKER_00

And that's the best time to to late fall to work with it, right?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, when the flowers are blooming and they smell so good. You know, you when you come out here in April and everything's dead, you get this boost of this beautiful fragrance, and it's these dead flowers.

SPEAKER_00

Wow, that's interesting. That's incredible. Yeah.

SPEAKER_01

I I also do a lot of perennial flowers. I like flowers, and they attract these. But I have herbs mixed in with everything. I have quite a few herbs, just about everything, I think. Um, some new ones that I'm add adding this year are Clary Sage, which I'm very excited about.

SPEAKER_02

And that clears the that's like a sage.

SPEAKER_01

It is, it's it's somewhat, it's yeah, it is related to a sage. Um, I don't know why you don't see more of it, because it does grow in this area. And I found that uh trying to obtain the essential oils, for some reason it's it's gone through the loose. So I've decided to grow plants and hopefully they they take off. That's the business woman in her. Yeah, yeah. Love it. Um and another one is blue verbane, which is a just a wonderful nervous. It loves the nervous system, somewhat of an adaptogen, which you know balances things in the system. And a grand vision I have for this year. We'll see. I collected quite a few seeds. I have an old cow pasture behind the house, and I noticed last year that St. John's War had kind of just taken off and done its thing, and that was very exciting, and it made me think, well, what other herbs can just go crazy out here? So I'm planning to spread echinacea, um catnip, I might not because it might take off too much. Um the anesthysop. I'm gonna try for the blue vervane as well. But um great idea. Yeah, all the all the seeds that I've been able to collect, I just want to let them go crazy out there and see what happens.

SPEAKER_00

That's great.

SPEAKER_02

Well, thank you, Dina.

SPEAKER_01

Is there anything else you'd like to add to our um well the shop is is open now. Um officially it opens in May, but I did open this past week because the weather was so nice. And it's open Wednesday through Sunday, 10 to 4. And it'll be open until Christmas.

SPEAKER_02

We're here in Tuftonboro, New Hampshire.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, not too far from Wolfboro, New Hampshire. Right. Lake Winnipesaukee. We're right in between Lake Winnipesauke and Castle in the Gladys, so it's a great place to stop when you're up here visiting.

SPEAKER_00

The birds agree. I hope you guys can hear those.

SPEAKER_01

I do want to mention too that my gardens are open to the public. Okay. And uh that's another thing that I've been working on is uh you can see some of the garden statues and creating calves and uh always creating new gardens. A little hard to see right now because nothing's green, but they're there. So are there time limits or or when while the stores open up between 10 and 4, once again, Wednesday through Sunday. Um the lavender garden is is amazing.

SPEAKER_00

Yes, it is.

SPEAKER_01

It's just starting to come back to life. Um so that's that's always a focus.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and I love the stairs that you put in to go there. It's just really you definitely have to come back when everything's in bloom because it's it's phenomenal to look at.

SPEAKER_02

It's very different from things like that.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

I drove by one day and I saw you on your tractor. I'm like, oh Dina. Yeah, I do love my tractor.

SPEAKER_01

Yes, it makes work very easy or much easier.

SPEAKER_00

That's right.

SPEAKER_01

And that the lavender is in full bloom on the 4th of July.

SPEAKER_00

Oh.

SPEAKER_01

So that's that's really that's time to come, but it blooms throughout the summer, which is really nice.

SPEAKER_00

Whoops someone just laid an egg. Hopefully you guys can hear that, and I'm just gonna scan the store a little bit.

SPEAKER_02

So we're back in the store. I just want to thank you, Dina, for giving us a tour and explaining about your products. And it was it's just a joy to come here and and to um see all your products. So you're very welcome.

SPEAKER_01

And I I love I love for people to come and see the gardens and of course the shop in the store. And the classes. Um I I get great joy in doing the classes. So yeah.

SPEAKER_00

We get great joy in going to them and um and co-teaching with you on too. It's been wonderful. Yeah. So, anyway, it is great to have her here today. And I just want to thank our listeners a great deal. Our podcast is really growing, and we owe it to you guys. Please hit the subscribe button because that's the best way to get us to really get out there. We love bringing, you know, things that are really important to know about in your community and throughout the world, because we've had lots of people from all different areas. So if you're if you're interested in keeping us going, please hit that subscribe button so that we can start to get our numbers up there and stay on this podcast. And until then, how is your intuition leading you to the next perfect step?