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The Telepathy Tapes Helps a Mother Connect with Her Autistic Son

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Grief can break open your conception of reality. When Heidi Drake lost her father to AIDS, the signs that followed weren’t subtle. To her, a face in the clouds that seemed to age, a dream that felt like a reunion, and a song that landed like a message. Those moments became the first proof, in her lived experience, that the unseen world is closer than we think and that intuition deserves more respect than we give it. 

From there, the conversation moves into the harder terrain of caregiving and nonverbal autism. Heidi shares what it’s like to live with years of hypervigilance, aggressive meltdowns, and the loneliness of feeling like nobody truly gets your day-to-day reality. We talk about “The Telepathy Tapes,” why the stories of telepathic communication hits so deep for parents, and how a new framework can change everything: not trying to control behavior to feel safe, but building trust, regulating your nervous system, and staying open to connection that doesn’t look like typical speech. 

Heidi also explains the personal turning points that helped her heal: leaving  unhealthy relationships, learning to stop making happiness dependent on someone else, and using tools like EFT tapping, Reiki, and a non-negotiable daily stillness practice. You’ll hear about a simple yes/no test that led to one of the most emotional “conversations” she’s ever had with her son, plus the way sobriety became a clarity choice when she realized alcohol and cannabis cut off her sense of spiritual connection. 

If you’ve been searching for hope around intuition, spiritual healing, energy medicine, or communication with minimally verbal loved ones, this one is for you. Subscribe, share this with someone who needs it, and leave a review so more listeners can find these stories and tools.

Cohosts Kim McStay and Lori Tremblay are intuitive healers and teachers who welcome open conversations and ways to live in a higher consciousness.  Contact thenextperfectstep@gmail.com and their FB page.

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Welcome And The Unseen World

SPEAKER_01

Welcome to the next perfect step. I'm Lori Tromblay. And I'm Kim McStay. And today we're going to have a very interesting conversation about sort of the magical part of life, the mysterious part of life that we all take for granted, that we all are tuned into. But she is going to share with us her experience with her son. And I would love to introduce Heidi Drake. And she is also the um she and her partner Glenn do Glenn and Heidi Heart Circle a couple of times a week in Gossdown, New Hampshire. So Heidi, welcome to the program.

SPEAKER_02

Thank you. Appreciate it. Good to have you. Love to have the opportunity to talk about my favorite subjects.

SPEAKER_01

There's lots of them. So there are. There are. Oh, so why don't you just start off by you know explaining to us um what brought you into well let's start from the beginning. Go ahead and start where to begin.

SPEAKER_02

Um I grew up in the matrix of not knowing it was a matrix. And um, you know like that. Yeah, that's so true. And just um, yeah, with the the mindset of you graduate high school, you go to college, you get a degree, you get um, you get married, you get a house, and then you have children. And I was following all of that, feeling like this is really empty, and that I didn't fit in, no matter where I was, and using substance to help me fit into where you know the world and what it was.

SPEAKER_01

Um that happens, I think, to a lot of people. Yeah, yeah, like one place to numb yourself and do exactly existing, exactly, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um

Grief, Signs, And Afterlife Moments

SPEAKER_02

I had my daughter in '93. Um, and then a couple years later, I had a son, my son Scott, my daughter Polly, my son Scott. And at the time when I got diagnosed, when my at the time I had my daughter, my father had just been diagnosed, or I should say, just prior to me getting pregnant. My father got diagnosed with AIDS, and I said, I need to give him grandchildren before he passes. And so, which I was getting ready to have children anyway. So I ended up getting pregnant and having my daughter. And my father lived with that diagnosis for about five years. So from the time he was diagnosed till he passed, um, was about five years. So then my son came along, and when he was nine months old, my dad passed um from AIDS, and that was my lowest point at that point. I was daddy's little girl. I'm one of two. I have an older sister, and he he opened the whole spirit world to me. I remember the Father's Day, um probably the next Father's Day, because he passed in December, and so come June, um I had three instant three things that happened. I was out on my front step having a glass of wine. I don't think that had anything to do with it. And I looked up and I saw his face in the clouds, and I just stood there and watched it, and I had no means of taking a picture. And it aged the way I had seen him age in his life, and it just stayed there and it aged and it went away. And I was that's amazing, blown away by that. Um, I had dreams, a dream where he came to me in the dream and he was hugging me, and I was sobbing so much in the dream that my husband at the time woke me up because he was concerned that I was sobbing so much. Um, and uh so it because it was like I was really with him again, and that was amazing. And then uh we had had you we had gotten a rent a car and we were returning the rent a car. So I was driving one vehicle with the two kids in it, and my husband was driving another one, and I had a Fleetwood Mac cassette in the player, and all of a sudden it stopped and it started playing on the other side, and I didn't even know cassette players could do that, and it was a song that said um something that on the lines of I miss my little girl and putting my arms around you and that kind of thing. And I was like, Okay, I I I now know goose bumps, yeah, that there is life beyond this life, so that was really the start of validation that life goes on, we can still connect with people who aren't here on our planet physically.

The Telepathy Tapes And Validation

SPEAKER_02

Um and then if you fast forward that to the telepathy tapes to knowing that you can communicate with individuals, whether it's dementia or whatever non-verbal people or even minimally um with our thoughts. Because there is no separation.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Interesting that you brought up the telepathy tapes. Yeah, yeah, that's um for those listeners who've not familiar with it. Do you want to explain it a little bit?

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I mean, I I started listening. Um, a friend of mine actually sent me the tapes, and um I forget her last name, Kai. Kai Dickens. Dickens. I okay, I was gonna call Brackens, but that's Sarah that I'm thinking of. Um, but uh anyway, she she did, and I'll let you kind of explain what you know about it as well. She probably know more than I do. But I was I was blown away by listening to the tapes because I, you know, I have a lot of um telepathic abilities and have since I was little. And, you know, I was always sort of shunned about that. And um, and I also have done a therapeutic writing program that I work a lot with, or did used to work a lot with autistic children, and just the connection that they had with the horses as opposed to humans, because we we we had too many expectations, yes, and horses have none. And so, you know, just to watch them that gives me chills because I remember just watching these kids look into the horses' eyes, um, feel them, hold them, and you know, if a human comes near them and they're like, you know, cross off, go away. And it just, you know, it really, you know, I've always been more connected to nature than people anyway. So when I listened to all the telepathy tapes, I I was just like it vindicated me, I guess. Um, and and that was, I'm sure, really helpful for you.

SPEAKER_02

The validation of the things I thought I heard from like the one major thing that I thought I heard from him, um, and then how it changed my life so much. So it was about a year and a half ago that I all these other podcasts that I was listening to kept mentioning the telepathy case. I'm like, I really gotta go listen to these. And I listened to a couple of them. But what used to happen was I would hear about people being able to connect with their autistic children and be envious or bummed that I didn't feel like I had that. Like, well, great for you, but you know, I don't I don't know how. Um, and so I only listened to a couple of them, and then more podcasters kept talking about them. Like, all right, fine, I'll listen to some more, because they really do recommend that you listen to them in chronological order from the beginning. Well, the more I listened to them, I was like, oh my God, I was getting questions answered. And now they've gone on to have the talk tapes, is also another one with the moms. And the fact that I even know I have people I could reach out to with a question. I mean, my son doesn't live with me now, so I don't have as many immediate, you know, I'm not on a day-to-day basis. I see him once a month. Um, but yes, it totally, it totally changed my life and and our relationship and relieved me of 99% of all stress and worry related. And that's huge. That is huge.

SPEAKER_01

Um, because there's a lot of stress.

SPEAKER_00

It was all of the stress, and you probably feel isolated, right? Like, I mean, like you don't feel like anyone understands what you're going through. Exactly.

SPEAKER_02

There was only one time really when I was uh working at getting him into a residential school program that somehow is connected with another mother, you know, online. And she literally told me her story and she was speaking my story. And it for the first time in my life, I felt like somebody got what my day-to-day life was like, and what I mean to always for 20 years I couldn't ever leave him alone, ever. I always had to make sure somebody was there or he was with somebody. Um, yeah, it uh that's not how I thought life was gonna go. And yeah, that's really what life is about, you know, being able to roll with whatever happens. Um so I ended up listening to the tapes and thinking, okay, um, wow.

Autism Meltdowns And A Turning Point

SPEAKER_02

And then I realized that so back around 2017, um Scott had had a big blowout at Christmas Eve where I we had to I had to call the police because I couldn't contain him. He was having an aggressive meltdown. And I got him into his bedroom, but prior to going in there, there was a picture drawing of me that my father had done, and he had smashed his hands against that, and he was bleeding from his wrist, but I couldn't do it. I couldn't wow, I couldn't contain him. So I got him into his bedroom because that's what we've I've been taught to do, and just holding the doorknob closed as I'm dialing 911, because thank God I had the phone in the pocket. They showed up, they were able like, and I'm like, don't use sirens. Um, they shoveled up and came in and were able to get in. He just had minor scratches, it wasn't anything awful, but you know, he's wiping the blood all over the room, and um so that was really traumatic. And at that point, he was just visiting for the weekend. He was already living in a residential program. Um, fast forward to six months later, Memorial Day weekend, another big meltdown. Now, this time my partner at the time was home. Um, Scott's dad and I had divorced back when he was only about six. And he was trying to hold him down. I was trying to help. He was biting him, we couldn't contain him again, had to call the because after 20 minutes it wasn't subsiding. Called the police. It just needed manpower. Once they got there and there were more people, it dissipated. And that's when I heard in my head, mom, get out of this relationship, sell the house, and do what you came here to do. And I went, Wow, wow, huh? Okay, goosebumps in a little bit. Three. Um, yeah, and okay. So because I was staying in a relationship at that point, I already divorced his father, and now I've been with this other person for 15, 13, 14, 15 years. Um, because that took that relationship took a while to finally dissolve. But um it was not I was trying to keep the house to be able to have my son come visit me once a month. Wow. And that meant staying in the relationship. And that, you know, he could still he could go to his dad's, he'd go and visit his dad. His dad lived with his parents, um, with Scott's grandparents, and it was was one minute down the road, and he would visit there once a month, too, and no issues. Um, this is where the validation, and it's something Glenn and I share a lot in circle because we share from the experiences that we have and the tools that have helped us heal from what we've been through. Um I used to think I needed to fix him, that if I could just get his behaviors under control, then everything would be okay. And Abraham Hicks was really helpful, highly recommend them in having me understand that making my happiness be um based on the behaviors of another, I was never gonna be happy. And that's a fact.

SPEAKER_01

I think for everybody should go on a big poster in everybody's house, yeah, yeah, wow.

SPEAKER_02

And he was reflecting all the stress and turmoil that I was going through. It was killing both of us. This was not just trying to help you, yeah, and he didn't have the ability. No, wow, no, wow. So that moving forward, that was the last time even my partner at that point is like, he can't come here if he's gonna be like that. And I was like, Yeah, well, and I can't be here either. Um, so that took some time to get to the point of leaving that relationship, and and I would only see him over at his dad's because I couldn't I couldn't go through that again. Plus, that the program had said, you know, we'll be right there if anything happens. Well, it took them over 24 hours to respond to me from the home to even like that's not immediate response that I can't depend on. This isn't safe for him or I. So, no, that can't happen.

Healing Yourself Instead Of Fixing

SPEAKER_02

Um, yeah, so that started the journey of really working on myself and the healing, and the more I healed myself, the more I got to know me. I had never lived on my own in my life. I went from living with my parents to living with my fiance to living with the next guy. And when I got Scott into his residential program and I got out of the other relationship, I had an apartment for the first time in my life in my early 50s, and I'm like, who am I? What do I want to do? How do I like to spend my time? What do I want to eat? Like, what do I even want to eat? What do I want to do? And I just started trying all kinds of new things, um, which was amazing. The other piece about hearing about the telepathy tapes was like a couple months after I had that realization and heard that part. Um occasionally I would get texts or messages from his program. You know, he had a meltdown, we had to pull the van over and do a hold. They just they hold them so they're not hurting themselves or others. And they had to do that. And for the first time in my life, I thought, I trust him. He needed to do that for some reason. And I went, What did I just hear myself say? My son was 28 at the time. Like, that's the first time I've ever said, I trust my son. And I didn't get all ups, I didn't start crying, I didn't get it was like the angels started to sing. I I just couldn't, I it was beyond comprehension that I actually was at that place because of do you think he was transmitting that to you, that you know, he like to help you come to that conclusion? That that you know, I hadn't thought of it that way, but because of the other things that had happened, it clearly could have been that. I mean, I know that you know, if you get in a traffic jam or if you know you're late because, you know, something spilt on the way out the door, that that could have just saved your life because had you been on the road already, something might have happened. You know, everything's happening for us, not to us. Um, I mean, these are all the lessons that I've been learning and all the spiritual books and all the stuff that um that I got to get really into once I started living on my own and being just in the space of me. Um and doing artwork and watching Gaia programs. I know Gaia's great. Gaia, yes, quantum physics. Who knew that I was really into string theory or quantum physics? And I'm like, wow, I try not to get all that about it because give it that label, it's like wow.

SPEAKER_01

I know it sounds a lot more scary than it actually is.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, it's not a math equation. You don't have to do physics to do that, it's it's uh energy.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Can you share with this the story that you shared with us earlier about when he had to go into

Wisdom Teeth Anxiety And Reassurance

SPEAKER_01

a hospital? Oh, for the yes.

SPEAKER_02

So just this past um April, that they had been working for a couple of years to be able to get him to have his wisdom teeth out, and it was quite a process in order to get somebody who would do it because he has to be put completely under. Um, and so you know, the it was building, and even myself, I still have my wisdom teeth, I didn't have to have them out. My daughter had to have hers out. My sister, everybody I know has had their wisdom teeth out, and I was like, um, you know, some of the times were not easy for people, dry socket, other things, and so they I I had anxiety. I'm like, God, what you know, what's that gonna be like when he needs to go and have this done? Like, do I really need to do that? Maybe we don't. Um, so it was he had it scheduled for like the end of March. It was building up, and then it got rescheduled to April. And I'm like, okay, all right, now we're gonna go on the buildup again. And it was getting within like a week about it. And I was like, doing a jigsaw puzzle, and I'm thinking, you know, he's gonna wake up and he's gonna have this, you know, holes in his mouth with the taste of blood and gauze. And you know, how's he gonna know how to deal with that? Like, and then it was, you know, I'm thinking about that and I'm feeling the anxiety, and all of a sudden I hear again in my head say, Mom, it's okay. I'm orchestrating this, and I was like, Wow, again, all the anxiety and stress just went away. And I'm like, oh, right. And you already know what's gonna happen because you know, like the telepathy tapes have shared with me how these individuals they've read a book that you've read because they've read it through you, they experience they can tap in and see what you're seeing, read what you're reading, know everything about you, know everything about other people, and then to hear. So, my validation to back up just a moment after I heard about the telepathy tapes was that I was like, okay, I need to do a little test with him.

Testing Telepathy With Yes And No

SPEAKER_02

So I took two pieces of paper and I wrote yes on one and no on the other. And I went and sat with him on one of my visits with him at his dad. I said, Scott, I wanna I wanna try something. So I pointed to the yes and he said yes, and he pointed to the no and he said no. And I'm like, um, can you read mommy's mind? Yes. Can you read daddy's mind? Yes. I'm like, okay, I gotta ask him something. I'm like, do you like the cats? No. Do you like dogs? Yes. Um Do you know about the hill? Which is a non-physical place that these nonverbal people gather and connect with each other. And he said yes. All over the world. Yes, all over the world. So he knew about that. Yes, he said yes. And I said, Do you go there? He said yes. And I'm like, Do you want to learn how to spell to speak? He's yes. And I said, Do you want to be given a voice? And he said, Yes. And I just I just lost it. It was also the longest conversation I've ever had with him. Still brings me to tears right now. And um, and I was I was blown away. Um a month or two later, I decided I was I wanted to do a couple more yes no, and I brought it out and I said, Scott, can we do this? And he's like, No. Like, of course not. Because you just you I love I need to just do it with I need he I know he just wants me to get more in touch with telepathy, just trust that I'll know what I need to know when I need to know it, and not try to make anything happen. Um, you know, I recently even learned that we're in our highest vibration and we can be feeling so Zan and connected the minute we try to figure out why, or the second we try to figure out, well, why is that like that? We've pinched ourselves off from that divine connection because we're now in our head, right? And we're trying to mentally figure this out, and you're not gonna get the answer that way. Right.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, yeah. Lori and I were talking about this before you came today. And you know, as far as like people don't trust in anything, they trust in in, you know, like a god that they don't know, and they believe that with every fiber of their being. But you tell them that you see ghosts or spirits or you know, that you can speak telepath telepathically with somebody, and they're like, Oh, that's you know, and they spend so much time trying to debunk it, yes, that it takes away all of that inspirational joy you feel when when you do experience it and you do trust it, and then it's like thanks a lot, you know. My happiness. Yeah, because that must have felt amazing to you.

SPEAKER_02

It it this whole thing, I tell you, changed my life. My life for you know, he's 29. So I mean, let's basically say for 30 years, I mean, he was an infant, so you didn't expect him to talk to me then, but yeah, all that time having to being hyper-vigilant, trying to uh guess ahead what he wanted, what he needed, try to fix him, try, you know, and to you know, they had the realization too, which is another Abraham Hicks quote, too, is that um I have my path, he has his path. We were together for as long as we were meant to be together, and then I needed to hand him over and trust him to others, and the mindset of because I was in the mindset of, oh, um you know, people say, Oh, how's he doing? And he'd be doing good, and I'm like, God, I don't even want to say that because every time I do the other shoe drops. Oh, and I'm like, and it would, because I expected that. Yeah, and so when I learned from Abraham Hicks, oh, the better it gets, the better it gets. How much better can it get? I was like, I mean, you can think like that. Like you can do that, right? All right, and as soon as I started doing that, man, I I was an x-ray tech for 37 years, and the last job that I did was in mamography. And I would have the woman in the room, and we'd be doing, we'd have to go through history and talk about different things, and certain people I would end up sharing about my son, and say, Yeah, I live under the threat of violence every day. I never know when he's gonna go off on me, or this and that, and and all of a sudden I could hear what I was sharing. I'm like, but yet I was also um, I think I was Reiki II certified at that point. I was learning about EFT tapping because that really helped me with anxiety and PTSD. And I'm like, okay, I need to switch the dialogue. So I would say, oh, I'm on the complimentary therapies committee here at Emerson Hospital, and I'm into tapping and that kind of thing. And I mean, you can hear the energetic difference between living another threat of violence every day, or I'm into energy medicine. And when I switched that story, my life changed to the point of how I'm living my life right now. I I didn't even imagine that it could be this fun, peaceful, infused in love, connection with everything, and it just keeps getting better. Um is it all it's all in a high? No, we'd be dead. If if we're just going up, you would you have to have the contrast. That's another Abraham. You can't hear what you do want without knowing what you don't want. It changed my life.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, and each thing. I think a lot of people need to hear what you just said because there's a lot of things going on, a lot of anxiety, and I think that that message brings a lot of positive hope, you know, and joy, and just knowing that you can have a different life, you can have a good life. Yes, and you can be happy, and it's despite what might be going around around you, you can be joyful and peaceful,

Self-Care, Allowing, And Letting Go

SPEAKER_00

yeah. Because it's all a choice, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

We make it many, many choices all day long. And the moment, I mean, you can hear yourself go, uh, and then like, okay, wait a minute. Uh, I'm gonna let me shift that. All right, and if you have to stop and take a couple of breaths, step outside and get your bare feet on the ground, whatever it is. As the other piece is there's so much going on in the world, and people say, What can I do as one person? Oh, please, the positivity of one person impacts a million negative. So imagine a world if we that we all just took care of ourselves, if we tended to our own energy and cared about this vessel, which is our temple, because it's what our soul is residing in at this moment in this lifetime, and allowed ourselves to listen to what we needed, not try to push ourselves through anything, because that you know, you push against something, it's gonna push back. Yeah, um, yeah. So these are all the different lessons that have you know presented themselves to me, and the things that have helped me with it has been the Reiki, having a spiritual community, people I can talk to about anything, which is where Glenn came into my life, and um self-care, self-care, self-care. It's not selfishness, no, it's you know the criteria we as as moms, um, and even just simply as women, worked hard. I was taught, you know, to worry about your kids. Oh, you gotta worry about them. That's loving them, right? No, that's the opposite. Yeah. Like worry, you want to do something good for your kids and envision them happy, healthy, and enjoying their life, and do not be attached to how that what that looks like. Their level of happiness, my son was happy in in the happy in the plastic preschool when he went. I had him at the nature preschool, and then he got diagnosed, and I was like, oh, and when he went into the the got diagnosed with autism, and he went into that school program, and it was plastic, you know, colorful things and different stuff, as opposed to you know, do working with sheep's fur and different things like that. Um and just that was too open for him at that point. Um realizing that what made him happy was not what made me happy, and then you can see that repeated over and over again in multiple people. Like I, you know, another Abraham Hicks. There's three laws that they don't give you a lot of people.

SPEAKER_01

You know, they're gonna appraise you and give you a thank you card.

SPEAKER_02

I know my life purpose is the third law, which is the law of allowing. I want to be allowed to live my life the way I want to. I need to allow other people to live their lives the way they want to. Yeah, and the catch to that though is not letting how they're choosing to live their life steal my joy. That's my hardest lesson at this point, over and over again. Because I've learned a lot of things and I know a lot of things, but I am not here to live somebody else's life. I don't know what their soul contract is. They could be doing exactly what they need to do to exit the planet when they've arranged to exit the planet. It's you know, if I begin to tell somebody how to live their life, I come across as an arrogant.

SPEAKER_00

So yeah, it's my guy just tell me stay in your lane.

SPEAKER_01

I was just thinking of that because you say that a lot.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, yeah. And I had to, you know, it's a big lesson. Like you want to help or you want to, you know, fix this or whatever. No, you just like you said, live and let them live their life and don't try to interfere.

SPEAKER_02

Correct. And the three of us who all work in the healing modalities, that's why we want to do that, because we want to help other people. Well, you know how you help other people the most is points that finger at you. Just like when anything, when whenever you seem to get upset about what somebody's saying to you or whatever's going on, put the mirror in front of your face because that's your issue. Same with somebody's coming at you saying you're doing something to them and you're making them angry or you're being mean to them. It's it's they need the mirror in front of them. Although, like I a little disclaimer, uh, I did that with my partner when I first learned about it. That didn't go so well. You mentioned it, right? Oh, yeah. Like, well, that it was nice because I was like, Oh, you know what? Yeah, my your issues not with me, it's really with your house and your mouth yourself. You really need to go stand in front of a mirror. But then because like I used to get defensive back because he's like, eh, and I'll be like, and then all of a sudden I was like, yours. And so when it got turned around and he was like, Oh, your issue is now really with yourself, and I'm like, Yeah, because I'm still with you. He worked it out. Um you went his way? I went mine, but sometimes that's for the best. It is, it is, and thankfully we have communicated at this point, so I have actually resolved all of my relationships. I'm best friends with my former husband again. We've known each other since we were eight, and that's we have the children together. Um yeah.

SPEAKER_01

How did your daughter deal with a postgema?

Family Impact And Making Amends

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, really, yeah, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Um, very hard on her. Very hard. She refers to it, she feels like she and she did, she co-parented with me. Um, she missed out on having time with friends because I would need to have her fill in when he got off the bus if I wasn't home for work, and I just work part-time, but um yeah, and you know, I one positive thing I can say about it is my kids have never argued. Never argued.

SPEAKER_03

Right.

SPEAKER_02

You know it. Right, it's telepathically.

SPEAKER_01

Oh, that's so funny.

SPEAKER_02

Um but yeah, it it was hard on her, and and and she said, like at one point, she even said to me when she was older, she said, you know, you always tell people that you were there for your children. She goes, You weren't there for me. And I said, you know what? I apologize. Like, I won't say I'm sorry because I don't want more things to be sorry, but I will apologize, and I'll apologize as many times as she needs me to apologize. And I said, I've learned techniques to help us heal from these different things, and that's that's what I have to offer at this point. I was doing the best I could with where I'm at, where I was at. And if her now husband was uh her fiance, no, I think he was her boyfriend at that point. They both were just like, I mean it talk about if you do that, it was diffusable thing. If I were to have defended and said, Well, you know, like, but I I wasn't, I yeah, it's gotta be hard. I also know that we all choose the life and the parents and the situations we come into, so but I'm not gonna throw that in her face and say, Well, you know, you chose this. Um that's not helpful.

SPEAKER_01

Just telling her that I apologized, and it was hard, and she's had to work through that, and she's done her therapy, and um how many people don't get that from their parent or from a partner when they you know feel like they were gypped to actually have that person say, Yeah, I was wrong. You know, like I apologize for how I handled that. That has to be super healing for her.

SPEAKER_02

I'd like to believe so. Yeah. I mean, she and I are close, and you know, we still converse and uh even more than ever now that I have a grandson that lives down in Tennessee. Um, so that's our way of being able to communicate is through FaceTime. And you know, she's living life the way she feels guided. And again, another one like, is it the way I would? No, it's her life. Um, and we have our opportunities. There's times when I'll say something, it's oh, do you want me to bring up how you how you were when we were growing up? I said, I was joking. Not a good thing to joke about. Um, it's all good. I said, no. I said, I know we all have our way of dealing with stuff. I had mine. You're doing the best you can. I mean, if we're all just here to love and support one another, literally. That's what I think. These are all my truths. I'm not saying anybody else has to believe in any of them. Um, it's just work, what's worked for me, what has become into my awareness. And um and I'm a double cancer, so cancer sun, cancer rising, and I understand the wording that goes on with cancer is I feel, and I have a sag moon, which is I believe, so am I, I feel, I feel, I believe person. I that's this is why I had to do the things that I did, because I could feel, and it was literally causing discomfort that I could not live with. I can't live uncomfortable. It has I have to feel good, otherwise, I need to figure out why I don't and resolve it.

SPEAKER_00

That's a pretty healthy approach. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Well, and being an x-ray for that many years, I saw 60-year-olds that looked 80 and 80-year-olds that looked 60. And I'm like, I would ask them, Oh, so what do you do? How do you spend your you know? And it was always active mind, active body. Okay, yeah, I can do that, and I want to be like the 80-year-old that looks 60.

SPEAKER_00

So, what kind of um healing work are you doing now?

Healing Circles And Energy Modalities

SPEAKER_02

Um, Glenn and I hold healing circles every Tuesday and Wednesday, except for when we're on vacation, um, which will be the end of July and beginning of August. Um, we have a Facebook page, Glenn and Heidi's Healing Heart. Um, we do a blend of um well, we believe when you learn modalities, you don't single them out. Your blend now of all those different modalities.

SPEAKER_00

We talked about that too. Yeah, I agree with you. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So we have a lot of crystals. That was his big love before I met him, and then we've again gotten even more. And so the energy in our space is really good. Um, and we do Reiki, we do something called Bel Vespita, which is an angelic healing of the heart. Um, I'm a biofiddled tuning fork practitioner, so I bring tuning forks into sessions. So when people arrive for circle, just come in, sit down, look around, whatever you want to do. Um, sometimes I have some food to share. We're pretty much whole food plant-based, so it's clean, gluten-free food. Um have conversations. You can talk about anything but politics. And um then we offer people the opportunity to get onto the table. Um, when we're having conversations, Glenn is wonderful at asking questions. We don't tell anybody what to do, we ask questions, and then they hear themselves speak their solutions and realize that they can nobody heals somebody else. They hold space while the person heals themselves, right? My belief. Yeah. Um, and when they hear themselves, and I I can't tell you how many times they hear them say, Oh wow, really? I just said that. Like they heard themselves speak their own truth of what's gonna help them.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, that's powerful. Yes, yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

And then we offer private sessions. Um, another favorite thing of mine is the uh Muniki rites, which are traumatic rights.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah, I've taken those. Yes, yes, yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Glenn taught me how to gift them, so I gift them now. And calling in the archetypes and creating sacred space and doing that, that I feel so connected with those beings that it just moves me so much every time. Um, and and going through those changed my life. That was, you know, I got into the relationship with him at that time. I left a profession of 37 years. I became a reverend in the Universal Brotherhood movement, um, which is not like any church thing or anything like that. It's literally an energetic thing that says I have a bachelor's of divinity in um ministerial counseling and metaphysical healing, which is what we do. It's the conversation and it's the energy medicine. Um yeah, I got received the Bell Vespata um initiations, just and my whole life shifted because it all became centered on this thing, the heart, following your heart. We're not taught that. No, no, we're taught like he has a great way of saying it, and always confused him. Like, we're taught to follow our heart but listen to our head, and it's the backwards, uh, something like that. However, we're taught to navigate life, switch it up, yeah, do the opposite. Um, stop thinking about what you think you should do and tune into your heart because if for me, I absolutely have experienced when I started following my heart. I always have what I need when I need it. I don't need a pile of anything anywhere to know that I have it. Um I always have what I need when I need it, and I enjoy life. And

Stillness Practice And Following The Heart

SPEAKER_02

I have a very healthy daily practice. My one non-negotiable is 20 minutes of stillness every day when I first get up, and when it's nice out, I'm outside. Yeah, that's powerful. Yeah, that's what connects me to that invisible world because there's far more unseen in this world than there is seen. Yes, absolutely.

SPEAKER_01

I mean, I know, you know, raising my grandson by myself, I used to say to him, you know, if it feels good here, then it's probably a good choice. But if it feels really awful here, it's probably not a very good choice. That's great. That's great advice. He really understood that. I think I think he still does. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

So because there's so much more in tune with their body. Yeah. If we could just stay tuned in with our body and the unseen world from the time we come onto this planet and this body. Um, yeah, I dream of that place, that world. That long it's coming. Yes, I see it. I see it. Yes. I think I think it's here. I I would I think it's here and it's spreading that it more people are are adapting that. There are more parents that are aware of it that are having children that are asking questions about you know, the invisible friend and uh oh, oh, you remember when I was in your tongue, or you were in my tummy, whatever it was. Um, yeah. Or you were this for me in my last life.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

Or I you know, I see you know, grandma's over here right now. You know, they they're they they foster that.

SPEAKER_00

They're hurrying.

SPEAKER_02

It as opposed to discourage it.

SPEAKER_00

That's important. And that support for the children and to know that they can talk to you about it. Yep. Yeah.

SPEAKER_03

For sure.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah. Great to have you. Is there anything you'd like to add about your life or your son or the journey?

Spelling Controversy And Dementia Story

SPEAKER_02

I've always felt like there was gonna come a time where he and I were gonna be able to have conversations. Um at this point, there are still even places where learning to spell or the act of teaching spelling is illegal. I didn't know that. Yeah. The um the government doesn't like the idea of people being able to read other people's minds. Because these kids, part of these behaviors, part of what they have so much responsibility because they know the good and the bad of what people are doing. And you allow them the opportunity to be able to type that out and spell it out, things are gonna come to light, the darkness is gonna be exposed. And I heard about spelling, like in it came out in '94, and my son was born in '97. So I had heard about it, but no, that's no, it's not a valid method. We don't, and it's not.

SPEAKER_01

Well, I did a reading on that that they're trying to debunk the whole thing because of that, and that's crazy.

SPEAKER_02

Yes, because these kids have the thing called a praxia where they're they have body movements they can't control, so they need some stabilization in order to initiate the the spelling initially, and they're trying to say that the assistant is influencing what they're spelling.

SPEAKER_00

Um, but there is enough evidence at this point that yeah, well, that's what the telepathy teaches about, is the evidence. Yes, from family after family, yes, over and over again. Over and over, and indisputable. And they've had just lots of different kinds of people come in and be you know on the tests, and it's always remarkably the same. It's always accurate. Yes, yes, it it's really not it's not refutable, in my opinion.

SPEAKER_02

No, no, and there was there's a one great story in there too, with a man who whose wife got dementia, and apparently um people can lose their language when they get really far on in dementia. And he was struggling to get her like even on the toilet or into the car. And one night he was laying in bed and in his, I don't know what he said it out louder in his head, he's like, I just wish you could help me, you know, get you on the toilet more easily and not have it take 10 minutes or a half an hour. And he heard her voice in his head saying, Oh, yeah, I can help you with that. And he's like, What? And so she went through the whole the details of exactly what to do. So the next day when they got up, he did exactly what she said, and he did it within two minutes. He was able to get her onto the toilet. And he said he he was so happy. He did the same thing with getting her into the car. He said, You know what? When I got her into the car in five minutes as opposed to 20 minutes, he goes, I did a victory dance around the car, going so and then he became somebody who, when he would go into these different memory cares or different places like that, that these non-speakers would reach out to him. And then he would let the the facility know or the the community know that he had somebody reaching out. Could they please let their family know? And if they're interested, then I will would be happy to help you know bridge the gap. Because he was receptive, yeah, and they knew that. Yep, and his wife had passed at that point too, and that became his commitment to those nonverbal people. The stories just go on and on and on. And and the the major message that these autistic people want us to know is that we're simply here to love one another. It's yeah, love.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I've I've always kind of felt after working with autistic children that they they have more insight of what's real, you know, and not not the matrix, but what's actually real. And you know, I've I found that they're kind of the transition from the old ways, not not the real old ways that were nice, but the ways now into the future, and how can we all get there together in in a in a better part of communication? And I really felt that it was very hard talking to, especially the um places that house these children, about what that actually meant. They just thought, oh, it was nuts. You know, it was it was very discouraging for me. I I I was not unhappy when the program ended just because I felt very tied as to how to do it.

SPEAKER_02

Yeah, I think this is this is a major catalyst for the change and shift in this whole area of all of that. And I'm honored to be here on the planet at the time to be a witness to

From Lowest Lows To Sobriety

SPEAKER_02

it. And having turned, you know, I said in the beginning that my biggest um uh my lowest low was with my dad passing, um, and then it was when I was dealing with my son's aggression and he was still living at home with me. And I was I was a mess. I can remember laying on the kitchen floor and just kind of like moving my legs along in a circle and crying and asking for my father to help me, which he was already past. And I was like, I don't, I don't, I can't do this. I can't keep doing this.

SPEAKER_01

Yeah, I can't even imagine doing that all the time. You know, it's one thing to help somebody, you know, for an hour in forces, but to live it, that's yeah, and I don't know how I did it.

SPEAKER_02

I but there was a lot of marijuana and alcohol involved in that, but that didn't really help, didn't really do anything. Got to the point where no amount of that right, no amount of that would do anything.

SPEAKER_01

And that I think that's important to share too, is that yes, you know, it's it's a go-to, but it it doesn't, you know, don't do anything of anything, it makes it worse.

SPEAKER_02

And as I as I listened to what I needed to do and to his guidance, um I was able to to stop all of that. Like I haven't I haven't smoked weed or done any kind of marijuana or cannabis since um June of 2018, and then I stopped drinking any alcohol in April of 2019, simply a choice. Yeah, it just didn't if I did either of those, the newfound connection to spirit would disappear, and all those things would depress me. They actually used to lift me up a little, and it's like when my life was not what I wanted it, it it elevated me. But then when I started to take control of my life, if I did them, it depressed me and it cut off my connection. So like yeah, knowing happened to be when it went legal in Massachusetts, and my friends went, but it's legal now. And I said, I'm so happy for you. It's not my interest anymore. Everybody's goo' gotta do what they want to do. I have no judgment. Um, I just know what what was what was my path and what feels good for me.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_00

Well, thank you so much for being here today. It was a fantastic conversation. I appreciate the opportunity. Yeah, and thank you for being so you know vulnerable in your sharing. Um, I think it's gonna help a lot of people. I hope so.

SPEAKER_02

That's I know I didn't go through this. You say, I know I'm going through this for a reason. I don't know what it is.

SPEAKER_00

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02

But yeah, thank you.

SPEAKER_01

And you're welcome. It's been great talking to you. Yeah. Thank you. That's great beginning. Yeah.

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SPEAKER_00

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