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Episode 11: Backstage with Witch's Ride: From Backyard Shows to The Whiskey
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We gather the members of Witch's Ride to discuss their musical journeys, performance philosophies, and the magic that happens when diverse musical backgrounds come together in one band.
Meet the Band Members
Speaker 3welcome back to another episode . Uh , I'm sarah , and tonight I am here with the lovely witches ride , which is my band , so I have the pleasure of interviewing my best friends tonight . Uh , so let's start over here with the lovely um toby on keys love it .
Speaker 2hello , Hello everybody . I'm Toby J Walker and I play keys for Witch's Ride .
Speaker 4I am Bromden , I play the drums .
Speaker 3I'm Sarah . I'm vocals .
Speaker 1I am Mikey and I play the guitar .
Speaker 5Dale me and I play the bass .
Speaker 3Now we're done with the serious business , right ? Yeah , so each one of you , I just want to know you can jump in anytime you want ,
Falling in Love with Music
Speaker 3we can do a little round robin . Just give me , like , what was the moment that you kind of fell in love with music , what was that magical moment where you're like I want to do this forever . This is what I want to do .
Speaker 2Anyone I guess I'll go , because I remember right when I got into high school I was playing music like trumpet since I was eight years old , but really just like get out of class or whatever . But you know , I was pretty decent at it . But when it came to high school I was going to be on the football team , but then I remember the band director was like just come to band . This is just one day . And literally just that one day I was like I fell in love with it even deeper . I was like , oh man , this is sick . This is going to be a good four years if I continue doing this . This is going to be a good four years if I continue doing this . And then , ever since then , I was like music's been my life and even outside of it I just fell in love deeper and deeper with it .
Speaker 3It's only grown and what can you say ? Was your first time you played a live show .
Speaker 2And how'd that feel ? I've done concerts when I was younger , but when I was in high school I did ska shows . I did a couple of ska bands , but doing backyard shows , especially cause I used to attend them , and then now I'm playing at them , I'm on the stage . It's a different view , you know , and so I . That's pretty much when I was like , yeah , I love performing , put me on that stage .
Speaker 3I hear that who's next ?
Speaker 1Tell me , what was your magic moment , honestly , the same thing as Toby man . I was influenced by the people I was hanging around with a lot of metalheads and this one guitarist in particular amazing guitarist and one time I brought this shitty guitar I had and I was like , hey man , can you tune my guitar ? He was like yeah , man , and then he was playing it and he was doing this incredible thing I didn't think anyone could do at that time . And from there it was like that was my moment where I was like , dude , I want to learn how to play the guitar like that . And the first motherfucking song I learned was Stairway to Heaven , and that motherfucker would play it like it was the recording and I wanted to do that . And then from there , just my musical . That's where it started , that's where it ignited . And look at us now , 20 years later .
Speaker 3It and look at us now , 20 years later , it's like I'm still at it how old were you .
Speaker 2When you back then you were like oh man , dude , we killed it we were the opener .
Speaker 1That's what you don't know was there oh yeah , once .
Speaker 4Once you're the opener , no one's there .
Speaker 1You're just like fuck yeah , we did it , that was .
Speaker 4And then you go to school and you're like dude , we killed it who was there you know josh .
Speaker 1I wouldn't say that that's weird . He said that because my drummer's name was josh and like that's . We started the band and then so did he show up yeah , I didn't even know he was your drummer too . No , he was there . We saw that's what I gotta say we never , even not even one song was completed like you start off good and it just goes like everyone goes off the rails . Yeah , so that's how it works out in rehearsal . Sometimes it happens who's next ?
Speaker 4uh , I'll go go bromden , go , excuse me , um shoot , okay . So honestly , for me I guess it started pretty early . I was like I was like a baby , really I was like a kid , and I remember just hearing things that I remember randomly in my head . First , like I remember like being in my grandparents' house and I could hear like the bass , to like money from Pink Floyd and all that . And then when I saw like falling away from me , uh , korn , the video pop up on trl . So I saw it like on countdown and all that . It was like what , 99 , 98 , 99 ? So I was like only in kindergarten , pre-k and then I was just already like fixated on that video , so hard that I was like how do you do a job like that ? Like I always questioned that .
Speaker 4And then , just like toby , I went to music classes to get out of class and then from there my dad had drumsticks everywhere , so I was always hitting drums . I did guitar at 10 . And then I just got too ridiculed , my fingers were too small and I was like can't do it , screw it . Then I went to drums and then just like honor band , jazz band in high school , things like that did all that too stayed strictly drums though the majority of the time . So it was pretty . It was pretty much pretty set in stone in a way . But then didn't know I was going to be this far into it right now , like , literally , like when the story comes up like I literally had quit before I came in this band . I quit music in general , thank goodness .
Speaker 2Mike , you got a hold of yourself , yes .
Speaker 3I thought about that part . Later We'll get there For you guys watching phenomenal drummer . Yes , exactly , let it be known , they know .
Speaker 4Let them watch .
Speaker 3So when , would you say , was your first live show ?
Speaker 4Do you want my first live show performance or my first concert ?
Speaker 3First live show performance .
Speaker 4I feel like I was probably the latest bloomer in everybody's repertoire . I don't think I actually had my first show until I was 17 , 16 , 17 . And I played like in this sort of pop punk-esque sort of band . It wasn't really weird , but at that time I wouldn't say that that was my first real band that I played with . But just like you said , Mikey , you had a band that didn't have full
First Live Show Experiences
Speaker 4songs . I didn't have a band that technically didn't have nothing .
Speaker 1It didn't exist . We had a band name , just Jam . Now , no , there was no jam we couldn't even jam .
Speaker 4It was so hard to set up with them and we were like high schoolers . I couldn't be like oh yeah , I'll meet you guys at the studio Pop $45 in the studio Like no , no , it wasn't happening . And so , yeah , my first show was like a backyard show , Like late into me was like maybe like 16 , 17 .
Speaker 4Back counts , back counts , but like for me it felt late because I'd like , I've been wanting to do this . It was like it was on my mind for like a long , long time . I think that's where we all start , huh .
Speaker 1Like backyards . If you didn't experience that , don't like . You know you got to start from somewhere .
Speaker 3You got to start in the backyards , progress onto actual stage you know , you got to be on the same level as everyone that you're performing to Higher and higher stages . All right , domi you're up .
Speaker 5Well , I started playing when I first started playing music . I started playing keyboards , Okay , and I was , I think , probably like eight , like you know know , with those little like tiny little like keyboards , and then I was also playing like a little accordion stuff , and then I eventually like , um , my grandma bought me like my first guitar ever . Um , it was like one of those like guitars from like the swamp meet . Oh yeah , um , and uh , I started taking um guitar lessons at the church choir . So I think , um , my first show was probably when I was like 11 and I was in front of the church with the church choir , but I was playing guitar .
Speaker 2They were there like yeah , the only performance at every one , the only free performance that everyone's already in . People start converting right there .
Speaker 1Did you hear people speaking in tongues ?
Speaker 4How much were tickets back then ?
Speaker 5They were free .
Speaker 2You had to give a donation , you had to give up your life to Jesus .
Speaker 3They call it a totem or something I give a totem .
Speaker 2That's so funny , that's good though .
Speaker 5Just like everybody else , my first actual band was Skull Band and I feel like church music is kind of similar to Skull Band . It really is it ? Really is Like very similar to Skull . It has like that same like upbeat . Yeah .
Speaker 2It really is . It's very similar to ska . It has that same upbeat . She's true , I've never heard that , but that makes sense . The offbeat , the quickness of it , that's funny .
Speaker 4The thing is , it's so weird . In our areas of LA everyone had to at least play in a ska band . I don't know if all of you guys were in were in full on ska bands . I was only a guy who was ever recruited to fill in . I was never fully invested into a band .
Speaker 1That's how me and Wolf met . Like I recruited him from a ska band . That's how you and I met in a ska band when I joined your band .
Speaker 2Yeah , you joined my band , that's one thing like Mikey , was the connection to a lot of musicians in the neighborhood that we grew up in like anyone that like needed to record their songs , or anybody that like oh , I need a saxophone player . He's like oh , let me whoop out my rolodex and then he would just have exactly who's needed for you no seriously he was , he recruited .
Speaker 2He was like all right , you know what , I'm gonna get this person , I'm gonna get this person , this person , and then the combination of sounds is what created us . Yeah .
Speaker 3And it's so beautiful .
Speaker 3I think because , too , we all come from different musical backgrounds . Yeah , we all like a little bit of everything , like I think a few of us in here have been classically trained . So , coming from that background , I think you spread out into so many different genres music , we'll dive into that a little bit too , like each one of you can shout it out . But I think that's what makes this such magic is because we're not just coming from like , oh , I just play scar , I just play metal or I just play hip-hop . It's like , no , I play everything and I love everything equally , and I think that that's what makes the magic really .
Speaker 1yeah , that's 100 I call myself a musician . Like , I devoted my life to music . You know it's my everyday life .
Speaker 4You know I don't think as a drummer , you can really be a full-on drummer if you can't play for more than one yeah type because it's like I've had , through the local scene I think I've , at one point in the past like three years .
Speaker 4At one point I think I had played for 11 bands , including my own main one , and that was just like , hey , this week this band needs this one , yeah , this one show they need help for this . I'm like , okay . Then my friends , hey , I need some help , okay . But then the thing was , thankfully , a majority of those times weren't bands that I needed to practice with . It was like just going to the show and then we just played the set that we might have just done like two months ago and we're like like , hey , you still remember that ? I'm like , yeah , he's like , okay , we'll just do that .
Speaker 2You saved that list .
Speaker 3I noticed that so much , especially living in like LA OC area . Every member of a band plays like in several different projects .
Speaker 1That's a . Thing .
Speaker 3It's crazy to me because for me , I was always like no , I'm in this band , I'm dedicated to this band .
Speaker 1I don't want to be in any other band , that that matters . Now I back . Then to me it didn't matter . I was in like five different bands , and now I try doing that and it's like , nah , I better stick to one , that that's just .
Speaker 4That's just that slowing down . That's slowing down when you're just like I've got all this other stuff too , but then at the same time it's like gotta prioritize maybe this maybe this band over that band , and it sucks , you know , and and especially when you like you find a limit right there , you and you have to tell them . Yeah , I think I'm gonna skip out on that one . You kind of feel bad because you're like , you know you can do it , you just don't have the time yeah , yeah .
Speaker 3No , I definitely get you with that man I man , I fell in love with music the minute I heard it and I don't know when it was I heard it or what my first memory of music , but I just always remember my mom was in the backyard gardening listening to music all day and then we always had like this wall . I'll never forget we had this wall of records and one of those huge like record store , like kind of racks , yes , and my dad was always playing records and they set up like a thing in the garage for me . I had a record player and a eight track player , if you don't know what that is kids .
Speaker 3You can look it up on the internet . I have some eight tracks yeah .
Speaker 3So I had that set up in the garage with a mic stand and I would sing all day long in the garage and I never . People always ask me like , what do you want to be when you grow up ? I'm like I want to be a singer . Changed , there's always been like these jobs , these placeholders , so I could just sing like if I didn't , if doing the job got in place of singing , I would quit the job and I would go on the road , so it's just always how it's been .
Speaker 4Yeah so wait , when it comes to , uh , the singing . So were you just primarily doing singing ? Did you try like any instruments ? Like how , like I start , I tried guitar .
Speaker 3I can't do guitar I have tried so many times , like I own so many guitars , I've owned keyboards , I've owned you know different musical instruments , drums I have a drum set at my house that I just do not . My brain is like nope , just sing like . I remember one band I was supposed to just shake a tambourine like super easy shake a tambourine and sing I stopped shaking the tambourine and I was just singing like my brain , just that's it .
Speaker 3I just want to sing and I want to give it my 110 , and I feel like I've seen bands where guitar players are singing and I'm like , oh , this is boring . Like I feel like the lead singer just has to like run around like a cuckoo , entertain the crowd . You know , I just feel like I'd be stuck behind an instrument and wouldn't be able to like I don't know , speak to my people . Yeah .
Speaker 1But do you guys believe that , like the whole music trait is passed down if it's in your fucking blood ? I think so I think I kind of see that happening because a lot of the people in my family they're very musically inclined , like my nephew's , like oh man , he's a genius and he's only like eight years old , seven years old , my daughter has rhythm and it's like I see where that comes from . Do you guys believe ?
Speaker 5like it's just , it's passed down to you my first instrument was a record like the recorder .
Speaker 1Yeah , the recorder I was . I was better than everyone in my class .
Speaker 1Dude , I was playing titanic and shit , yeah , yeah , like I remember that . So no , but it was funny because , like , I treated that instrument as if it was my instrument and I remember my teacher was like , oh , lead the class . And I was only like what , like in third grade , well , I was like eight years old , yeah , and I was like dude , I was good at it , like you know , and like the other kids like will hit high notes and shit , I was all perfect and shit you know . And then , look , that went from that to like the violin and then now I'm a guitarist and many other things .
Speaker 2Yeah , I think when you're around people who play music and stuff like that . They have an appreciation for it that when you're around it you just naturally start to pick up .
Speaker 3You get inspired and I feel like , if it's in your you know , like you said , if you're surrounded by it , like I was surrounded by music , it was a part of my daily life . So I think you know , and you've got people , their parents , maybe they're in tech or maybe they're building cars , then that's what that kid kind of gravitates towards . Or you're like total opposite and you're like f this , I'm gonna do something else completely yeah , no , because you've seen those shoes that will show in one of those and they've seen it and they're like no , I don't want anything to do with that , and I think that you know it can go either way .
Speaker 4It's either a part of you or you're like super anti yeah I , I , just I , I think the inherentness to like music , you know , can be like passed down and then , you know , can be like changed into and be like , oh , like how my parents listen to like 80s thrash metal and things like that punk . And then I was like , oh , what's what's going on the other spectrum , because I need to find my own stuff .
Speaker 1Yeah .
Speaker 4That's different , I agree , but I guess there are cases where some people have parents who are musically inclined and have kids that aren't that's true . They can have parents who are singers and they probably can't hear .
Speaker 1Yeah , can't hear the noise , that's true . And it trips me out now as a musician if I hear a kid hit a note . It's kind of like , dude , like you're on key , yeah , like you're gonna do that yeah , like you know , I see it now it's like it's just like .
Speaker 4It's just like even drums , like I told you like a while ago , it's like when you're playing sublime . It's not that , that's not how it goes , it's a shuffle , so you have to like yeah yeah yeah , and it's a different feel .
Speaker 4So , especially like , the music that your parents listen to could also influence the music that you play , because those are the rhythms that you've heard since you were so young , that's why I like funky music and stuff like that I would say , I would say right now too even , but right now too we should go back , because we kind of went off topic too .
Speaker 5No , you didn't . You didn't tell us your first show .
Speaker 3Oh goodness , oh my .
Speaker 4God , we got to hear this . That's right .
Speaker 3I had the pleasure of never being in a ska band . That's a point of pride , but I love you guys for doing it . There was a moment in time where I liked ska and I played with a F-ton of ska bands . I'll tell you what , but my first show , oh , and I'll tell you what , when I first started playing music . I mean , you had all ska Like it was no Doubt , it was Sublime , it was .
Speaker 3Heavy ska I played with Save Ferris , I played with all the ska bands you can think of . And then you had the other spectrum . You had Head PE , you had Korn , you had all the Hessians running around , so it was kind of hard where you could put an all-girls alternative rock band . So they shoved us into the weirdest shows . So my first show was in Huntington Beach , this little spot called TC's . It does not exist anymore the tiniest stage you can imagine in your life . The sound was so bad and I threw my microphone . The sound was awful . I walked off stage . It was the worst experience you could ever have . I was 18 . It was like a pissed off walk-off . Oh , it was awful .
Speaker 4I was thinking it was like you dropped your mic and you threw it at the people because , you were trying to sing with them Like hey oh no , it was no .
Speaker 3And I've definitely had those moments where the mic swings off your mic cord and I'm like can you bring that back up here , please , Can ?
Speaker 4I no . Nobody would be able to hear that .
Speaker 3Yeah right , anybody find the mic out there , but no , it was awful . I definitely learned through the years professionalism and how to keep going when things like that happen , because when I was younger 18 to probably 29 , I was very , I just wasn't at the professional level to know , you know , hey , have grace , give yourself some grace , give yourself patience . You're going to have a shitty sound guy . Stuff's going to happen . You just got to roll with it , you got to just keep singing , you know , and I think that comes with time , but my first show is a shit show , honestly , but everybody's gotta have that you gotta break your cherry , knowing that everything possible can go wrong , and then you're gonna be okay from there sometimes it's good to have a bad show , as like one of your earlier shows .
Speaker 2so then you're kind of like , okay , this is what could happen , because if you always have great shows and then they'll find the one time where the show maybe it's not even the worst , but it's just not as good as the other ones , then you're like , oh man then you have a breakdown .
Speaker 3You're like , oh , what's happening ? I love bad shows , you know , and every single band I've ever been in . It's just what's going to happen . But now it's like , okay , I have the wherewithal to be like it's all right , you know , shake it off , you talk to the audience , you make a joke out of it . It's that professionalism .
Speaker 2We're entertainers at the end of the day , so even if everything is going wrong , as long as the crowd is entertained , then that's ultimately what matters .
Speaker 4Yeah , and then I think it's better that we're still at a good level where , no matter what kind of mess up goes on the show , like we still feel , we still feel awful about it .
Speaker 5you know I can't believe I hit that .
Speaker 3Let's do that the good part is . Most of the time , nobody knows what happened , yeah , but we know unless it's another musician .
Speaker 4The music teacher has always told me that , but I still call bullshit . They know , they know , they know I didn't do it hey , but it was crazy .
Speaker 1This band , like this band , has taught me a lot about being professional and quality and stuff , because I want things to be tight and muddy and when I met Sarah I wasn't there , I was muddy and you've seen that , right , how much we've improved in that . And it's crazy because this band taught me that and I'm grateful for that .
Speaker 2And also Woof . He taught me a lot too .
Speaker 3Tim grateful for that and also wolf .
Speaker 1He taught me a lot too timing and stuff . I always had shitty timing because of all the shitty drummers I played , with no offense .
Speaker 2The intro of romden into the band .
Speaker 1Really like made the time , you guys felt it right , you guys heard the recordings .
Speaker 3I put up right we don't know what you're talking about nothing we just have .
Speaker 2We have a high standard now with this I do . I believe that , even with ourselves , like I , have a higher standard for myself . What I'm willing to do , this . If I'm not able to , I'm going to try something a little simpler or something , or you just get better and then you're able to do it .
Speaker 1That's crazy .
Speaker 2We're all getting better .
Speaker 1I want to continue to play with like-minded musicians . Now , because of this band , I cannot just jump in with someone and not expect them to have their shit down yeah , it's kind of like I want to come down and , like you guys , have your shit down . Yeah , if they don't and I don't want to work with you guys I'm sorry that's , that's .
Speaker 4That's a problem . When , when , like , like , you found me and you got me in and I was just like , when I showed up to that practice the first time , I was just like I was just playing . I didn't think I was doing .
Speaker 1Nah , dude , whatever you guys mean it blew everyone away , like you guys . You guys can say it was you know , I wasn't there that first practice .
Speaker 2So when I came to second practice I was like , oh okay , all right , all right , bong is our drummer . And then , just hearing right off the back , everything was way better , all the fills , everything . I was like , oh , that's what it's supposed to sound like . It's a trip . That's the thing . It's good just being with people who are just as passionate about music as we all are .
Speaker 3So , circling back to live shows and things like that , what do you guys , when you go and play a show and you're thinking , you know , I put on a great show this and that , but when it comes to the audience , what do you want
Creating Impact on the Audience
Speaker 3the audience to leave with ?
Speaker 5like how do you want them to feel after your shows ? Tell me , uh , I want them to be like damn . That basis was pretty good she leaves that imprint .
Speaker 1She does leave that imprint because she moves . You know , people like that shit .
Speaker 2It's like you're a snake and you're like you're a snake you're like you're , you're you know like you're putting them in a trance well , you could tell , because the good stage presence , like people notice that , like with a lot of recordings that people do , it's like they , they see her . Oh wait , look at this over here yeah , yeah , yeah .
Speaker 5Like honestly , like I feel like I'm the quietest from us , but like when I'm on stage , it's like I'm the one that moves the most . But she has to get there though .
Speaker 1I see that in the front , beginning like she's all right , she's a little stale .
Speaker 5Oh , she's just doing the snake no , she gets down , you're kidding me .
Speaker 3I'm like , oh yeah , the past performances .
Speaker 2I'm like , oh okay , I'm gonna start doing that too toby's all .
Speaker 3I'm stuck behind these damn keys exactly I told you keytar , god damn it . How about you , mikey ? What do you want people to feel ? Honestly ?
Speaker 1no , I see it all the time After every show , just hearing people saying like , oh , they're a new fan because we're obviously a little bit different . You know , we have that , the keys that bring in that door , like I don't know , just leave and they want to search us up . And they do find us . And then that's when they leave their comment like I like this band , like what the hell ? They rocked us , you know , like , for example , last show in vegas we did . Definitely we're not the same genre of any of those bands , but yet we rock the house , you know , yeah so that's what I like .
Speaker 1I like leaving the show and it's been happening . When we leave a show and we leave an imprint , we're like dude , yeah , that band was dope like what the ?
Speaker 5fuck , they're different , you know , and that's mine we're the only band that sold merch that day . Yeah , I noticed because I was next to the other merch people .
Speaker 4Yeah , that's nice and I will say everybody else who was selling merch that day was bought by me and Toby probably all of these guys all their friends . Let me support y'all . So hey , thank you , nosferatu .
Speaker 3Fest Spend all their money there . We didn't really make any money that night we didn't have all our records .
Speaker 1I'll let you see .
Speaker 3All our rings that you're wearing . I guess from the time I was little and singing and stuff like that , my whole thing was when I watch a singer and the way it makes me feel . It makes me feel inspired to do that and to make me think that maybe that's possible and I might get a little misty-eyed . But there's certain artists that I watch and they'll almost bring me to tears or give me a chill because of the lyrics in the song or the way the melody is played or the way just their magic . And I don't know if it's just from a musician or I know other music lovers probably feel the same . But there's just the minerals that come together and you'll hear a great song and you're like I want to do that .
Speaker 3I want that to be me and I , if I can inspire anybody to feel the way that I felt watching the amazing singers I watched when I was younger , feel then I've done my job . If I want , I want people to walk away going . Oh , I want to do that when I grow up .
Speaker 1You know you've been doing your job because everyone I've showed our music to the first thing is a holy shit , you're fucking singer . Like dude , like bullshit aside , that's how . That's how I lured these guys in , like the first thing , the first thing , the first thing down here was saying like I , you know I'm not enjoying because you have a badass singer .
Speaker 5Yeah , like those are her words , yeah my first song I listened to , I think was a cover song .
Speaker 1It was the Horizon .
Speaker 5Zone . It literally gave me the chills . I get chills from certain music .
Speaker 1So if you did this within the band , imagine what you're doing to the people . Just your little soundcheck .
Speaker 2Whatever you do , I swear to god , mike , I just want to throw a stick at you Like hey , cut it out , no , Singers I just want to throw a stick at you , like , hey , cut it out , no , so , but yeah , definitely , like singers is especially like to say as an instrument you know what I mean Like that is the instrument that people hear the most and that resonates with them the most . You know what I mean . You're literally speaking out to the people when you're doing that . Like people can enjoy the groove of a bass , you know the groove of the drum , but it's the voice that really just like cuts deep .
Speaker 4Well , the problem is too . I think singers sort of have that same drummer mentality with it is because they can't . Just the instrument is the voice , but they're not doing opera , they're not doing classical , where they're just going to sit there and do it . They have to , like , move their body .
Speaker 1She's banging , doing , doing that . You guys are the main elements , though people hear a good singer and a good drummer , you have a great .
Speaker 4She has to like keep up voice capacity , just you know , with the whole running around banging , her head hitting the note , you know , yeah car , you know , baby cardio it's , it's , it's almost like a drummer perspective in a way . You know , just not a lot of like , I guess , stick rebound but you know still active .
Speaker 2Yeah , stage presence is mandatory when you're a singer if you really want to catch people's attention . So , and then she has plenty of it . So you know it's beautiful .
Speaker 3Thanks guys , I'm blushing now , of course . How about you Bromden ? How about you Bramnan ? What do you ? How do you feel like the audience should feel when they leave this the show ?
Speaker 5Oh good .
Speaker 4Oh , yeah , I feel like it took me . It took me a while to really think about that . Like , honestly , it didn't really matter to me until , um , shit , maybe before this band , when I was in a previous band and we were , we were kind of doing like an artsy style , grungy kind of thing , and it was fine . It was with a female singer too , and it was fine . It was going good . And then just things happen , pandemic , blah , blah , move on , uh , and things happened . And then , uh , after that I was was like that was around 24 , 25 . So around there I was like okay , so this band's got more dynamics , because , like , at that time I was playing ska , pop , punk , dance music for some people Like , and I was just everywhere and most of that stuff wasn't hitting what I needed when it came to dynamics , when it came to , uh , all that other stuff .
Speaker 4Until that that band I joined . And then when it came here , it was more or less when I got with mikey , when I was like the stuff you guys are making I can actually do something with , like it's different . Like , when everyone gets to me , uh , the scene , they're usually like oh , can you do ? I'm like I could , but it don't fit . You know , like that's what I tell everyone . I'm like I could .
Speaker 4It's not going to work because I'm going to get back to one . Yeah , you're going to , you're going to seven . I got to get back to one . Yeah so , having something more dynamic , yeah so . And with this it makes it better , especially now hearing our new stuff Secret , secret , those things , those things . Now I'm like that's why I've been telling him like I need to hear what's going on outside , sing , doing the first album , like I'm not necessarily just a drummer , but I I can speak with toby and mikey about configurating the song and and structuring it with them , so that at least I have a little bit more of a job . So I guess everything came down to just the music importantly yeah until until more or less now .
Speaker 4now I'm like I want the people to feel something because the music's always just been number one for me , Like I've never really cared about , like I like being an audience member . So I don't see myself as a as a person getting an audience . I just see myself as an audience person because I've been to more concerts than I've been playing shows .
Speaker 3Well , you've got an audience now , yeah , so it's like . It's like now I'm .
Speaker 4I'm mostly thinking about their , what they're listening to on CDs and literally what they're seeing and what they're saying to me is what whatever I'm getting is feedback . That's pretty much all it is . I don't really have a sense of oh when all it is . I don't really have a sense of oh when I go and do this show . I need to think about what they're doing . I just need to make sure I'm hitting my hits and the show is going without any derailing .
Speaker 3So they're leaving with that flawless experience , yeah , so pretty much , I'm just .
Speaker 2It's like get the job done for me , it is fun putting that experience to use when you're like , oh , this happened at a show before , and then I'm able to implement it into this .
Speaker 4And being at so many legendary concerts over my lifespan , I've seen like Roger Waters to Dead Kennedys , to Psychedelic Furs . I've seen all kinds of genres in amphitheaters , in small venues . So really , just being a drummer , it's just like I'm I'm picturing those places . Yeah , in a way , just so that like , yeah , it's not , it's the whiskey , it's not the forum , but I want it to sound like the forum when I'm playing . That's awesome . I like that mentality .
Speaker 3Yeah's really cool and that's back to like that's awesome how you approach every show , so like , say , you know , from the whiskey to a backyard party , to a club or a birthday party , like how you approach every show and this comes back to professionalism I feel like I approach them all the same , like that mentality of like this is the forum , like this is the forum , this is my forum tonight . Yeah , this is my stable center tonight , whether we're in a living room or whether we're in a backyard . This I'm going to present this show like I am .
Speaker 4I'm performing for everyone in the world , right now and today , like just like putting this into the podcast , saying , like you know , I literally brought bromden and this lore of this mass character really just to make sure that the music's more seen . You know , I like that . I've heard uh through the scene throughout all the bands I've seen . You know , I like that . I've heard uh through the scene throughout all the bands I've played for , filled in for like I've gotten all the props in the world and I appreciate all of them and I love all of it .
Speaker 4It's just that I I told him all the time , mikey , that I've never heard myself at like in a recording or in a video . So I've never got to like critique myself and be like , yeah , I don , I don't like that , you know . So like hearing everybody being like , oh , you're great , you're great , you're great . I'm like thank you , but I need someone to tell me what went wrong , kind of . You know , I beat myself up about what I missed , but I'm like I know those things , like I just need to know what's not being heard over there .
Speaker 3I like those feedbacks , the yin and the yang . Now you want the positive with a little , you know positive reinforcement and a little .
Speaker 4You know , yeah , critique coming back at you , but not like , oh , you suck tonight . And yes , first world problem . I get it . I got compliments , so I'm complaining first world problem . I'm not saying that it was a bad thing , I'm just saying I'm glad that I didn't become an asshole about it . Yeah , because there's people below my level who are pretty big assholes ?
Speaker 3Oh , we know , we've seen all of them . I've played with a lot of them , yeah that's the people themselves .
Speaker 2They're going to be into themselves . No matter what level , no matter how , anything , no matter what they're doing , they're going to think they're the best .
Speaker 3I always say it I've met a lot of awesome , amazing people . I've met a lot of people that I thought were going to be awesome and amazing and I've worked with and that I've not been . And I don't care what level in this planet you get to Like you wouldn't be anywhere without the fans that come to see you . So why are you being a dick to these people that are just coming up to you and wanting to talk to you or spend five minutes of your time ? It's not going to cost you anything to give them respect because they've spent , say , they've spent a thousand dollars tonight to come to this show . Give them respect . You know five minutes to be like . Hey , thank you so much . Oh , you did a great job . Thank you for coming . Boom Done and I've come into contact with those people that have just been like so dismissive and just don't give a shit .
Speaker 2And I'm like . You do realize you're on that stage because of these people and it would be nowhere without these people . So I'll never , ever take it for granted . Yeah , all right , tobes . What do you think like ? What do you want the audience to feel ? Oh man , I I love thing about music I love is you could really change how someone is feeling . You know , I mean like , and with the , what I like is , since we have songs that go from fast and go to slow and like really deep and meaningful , like it takes them on an emotional journey . You know , I want someone to like . You know they're here to see a good show , you know everything . And then they hear a song and they're like that hit somewhere . It spoke to them . You know what I mean . It's like we're able to just get this music and , with them hearing it , they finally like if it hits something , they're like oh , I , now I feel something new , you know you know , I honestly do think that people do feel that way when they see us , especially when we the what ?
Speaker 4three shows at the whiskey ? Yeah , yeah , three shows at the whiskey . Each time , I feel like there's always been a different amount of people that just keep on like digging it . Like , yeah , when we played priest and it was funny because , like each show kind of like matched with everybody in a weird way yeah , like , my first big show with you guys was the priest show and I had just joined and I was like we're playing with priest and you you didn't know , I had seen them a couple times already and I was like , oh , we're gonna play with priest , are you ?
Speaker 1kidding me , it was so great . Yeah , I like hyped it for me .
Speaker 4Oh no , yeah , it's so hard for you . I was like I couldn't . I loved it , I was so happy . And then that show I felt like I , I like I took off , you know , yeah , but the show I felt like I didn't was the blitzkid show . But people still said they liked it . Yeah , you know , and that was just my own critique about my drumming at that point . Uh , you know , and then that was like a show mainly for you , yeah . And then our own headlining show Like that was a weird journey , remember we also played with Calabrese .
Speaker 4That was a good one . That one was great .
Speaker 3We actually played there five times . We kind of have a running show time at the Whiskey . We love the Whiskey . Shout out to the Whiskey .
Speaker 2Five times you . You know a lot of bands don't get to do that , man . Yeah , so it's kind of like it's funny . Yeah , me too , me too . And it's good , because even when we play with , uh , bands that are a little more more known , they hear us and they're like oh , these guys are good . Yeah , so if we want to play with them again , like we and that's what happened at the calabrese show .
Speaker 1No , they're good're good we took the audience .
Speaker 4I think it's always funny that it's usually you and me in the like all the rooms upstairs like always talking to like the newest people that come in . I love talking to people , to be honest .
Speaker 2Oh yeah , I love to get to know all the bands .
Speaker 3Yes , exactly , I just love , backstage life , I don't know . I'm like the whole .
Speaker 1I did that in Vegas with Bridge City Sinners . Yeah see , that's . I just popped all of them . I was like okay , what's up ?
Speaker 4Bridge City Sinners ? That's the part that you find something weird about yourself , because for me it's like , if people that know me , I'm like yeah , I hate people . I swear to god , I hate them , but they take me to the the room with all the musicians . Yep , yep , those are .
Speaker 1Those are your people , though those are my people , you know , I'm amongst you , that's true , that's true .
Speaker 2It's so funny . It's just like being once in an audience and then now you're in the backstage . You don't even go to watch . You'll hear the band through the green walls .
Speaker 4Yeah , it's like I said , man , I'm an audience member to my fullest .
Speaker 3So let's talk about
Pre-Show Rituals and Nerves
Speaker 3backstage life a minute . What's each one of you we're gonna go around ? What's your little ritual before you get on stage ? What's one thing you always have to do to get ready , like , tell me what's your like go-to . Do you warm up ? Do you ? You know , maybe you go and you have a quiet moment or you get the hell out of the venue . What ? What do you do ?
Speaker 5well , as you guys have noticed , I do usually like I isolate myself from the venue like a lot of time I don't even really get to enjoy the show , because I'm like trying to focus , because I get like anxiety before going on stage like I do . I do a lot of time . Um , like , do a little rehearsal , you know , warm up a little . Yeah , make sure that . Um , I know all the songs . Even though I know all the songs , but like at the moment , it's like my mind just kind of you't know if you think about it too hard , you forget it .
Speaker 1Yeah , I agree with her .
Speaker 2That's why I know this to a level that if you forget them , you still know , he just knows .
Speaker 3And you're like oh yeah , she's the one that freaks me out when she does that .
Speaker 1I'm trying to remember it , dude . I don't even remember what I played . I just got up there and it comes to me it comes to me .
Speaker 2It's funny because , like , even with all the nerves and anything like , but when we're on stage can't even tell nah , can't even tell that you guys are nervous . Nothing is is flopping , everything is still tight , everything is great .
Speaker 3I black out , I just don't even . You couldn't even ask me what I did on stage . You couldn't even ask me . I'll listen to me saying stuff to the audience and all .
Speaker 2Who's that ? Who's that bitch You're like who cracked their head ? Oh shit , oh it's shot .
Speaker 3Peace out . I hope the young man that hit his head with the whiskey is doing okay .
Speaker 5I want to send some love to that man .
Speaker 3Oh , my goodness .
Speaker 5We digress .
Speaker 3So you practice , you kind of isolate yourself .
Speaker 5Anything you go and like , I make sure that I have like something to drink on stage , because I get like sick caught in mouth . I don't even smoke anymore , I just get caught in mouth for like no reason . So I make sure that I have like a beer or like some type of drink on stage . Yeah , and usually take a shot or two right before to like ease it in , take the edge off a on stage . Yeah , and usually take a shot or two right before to to like ease it in , take , take the edge off a little Cider vinegar .
Speaker 5Yeah .
Speaker 2Yeah , what's your ritual ? I get blacked out .
Speaker 4What is this ? The chili peppers freaking matcha tea please .
Speaker 3Matcha tea . I take some ghost pepper sauce straight to the dome . Oh my goodness , some ghost pepper sauce straight to the dome .
Speaker 4Oh my goodness , so much fun in that .
Speaker 3Mikey .
Speaker 1That's honestly my ritual . I get drunk and like , like .
Speaker 3I Not drunk , not drunk , enough , enough .
Speaker 1Not too blacked out , loose enough to like just not look at the crowd , but that's . I don't really have a ritual , I just do that . I don't look at them . If you guys have ever paid attention , I never have my eyes open and that's why I wear a mask . I don't like looking at people .
Speaker 5Same .
Speaker 1I swear to you , I've never looked at anyone in the face while I play Ever . And now I do open it and I find someone that I know that's looking at me . I smile at them and I close my eyes again the guy with the face mask looks straight .
Speaker 4I look straight the whole time I I see Sarah banging around at me . I see you .
Speaker 3I got to watch all your tunes . I just pretend that you can see me , I'm all . Yeah , you can see me .
Speaker 4It's fine . At this point I'm just going to put those wobbly eyes on my mask .
Speaker 1Yeah no , I don't have no ritual . I really just I just drink enough to loosen up and then , once we're on stage , we're on stage .
Speaker 2That's , I don't really get too nervous anymore because I just have , like , I believe in us , in our capabilities , so , like , even , no matter what , even if something goes wrong quote unquote we have the ability to still make it sound right . Yeah , unless you know , oh , we didn't mean to do that , you wouldn't know , you know ? You know what I mean . It's still going to sound good and so , like , my ritual is really just having a blast . You know what I mean ? Like I'll just be walking around saying hello to everybody . You know what I mean ? Just getting ready to put the costume on , because I don't really put on the costume until like right when we're about to go on then when I'm on stage .
Speaker 2You're like it's still me guys . You still know what you're like that's funny okay .
Speaker 4Romnan , I guess I guess , like I kind of do what you do , in a way , like I have , like I try to have a good time , in the same way that I just treat it like a show , but I have like all access . Yes .
Speaker 4I'm just like , hey , I'm gonna go , I'm gonna go down really quick , I'm gonna go watch the whichever band . You know , I always go down and watch the bands for at least one or two songs , all of them , and then I go back up . You know , yeah , I usually do that because I just want to see who the heck is there and who's doing what . You know , all we're missing is a catering yeah just give me free parking , just give me free parking .
Speaker 1Screw your cave and just give me free parking , bowling was like .
Speaker 2We have access to a festival yeah , we were playing , but it's like no , we're literally just vip access treat everybody so well thank you so much .
Speaker 4A limited beer love was great and I just like I don't know I just , when it comes to watching the bands , it makes me feel good , like no matter what , it doesn't matter if the , the people there take themselves too seriously or not , or the music's good or not , just like it's cool to just see people there , it's fun . It's , like you know , and then most of these times these are all local showcases and the main acts don't happen for another six hours . So we're always there waiting . So I'm just there watching the openers . You know , like the people who have like five people and I'm probably one of those five too you know , just sitting there watching . I want to support .
Speaker 3I was there .
Speaker 4And the thing is , even then , you know I will , yes , I will leave like mid-set , you know , just because I'm like , okay , I got to fill in . You know , I felt the show energy . Okay , I'm going to go walk upstairs , go back up there , chill out , just up and down . Maybe I'll have a drink or a shot or two , but I don't really like to drink before I play the cotton mouth and the sweating and the tightness in my limbs , like I don't like it . So I don't drink until usually after . And if there's like a shot , then that's fine , but I need to have a water next to me just to make sure that doesn't dry me out .
Speaker 4And and really , uh , stretching , obviously having to stretch my limbs and practice my warm-ups and whatnot , but other than that , uh , it's really just trying to engulf myself that wherever I'm playing , I'm just like I'm still , you know , a crowd participant . Yeah , in a way , you know so , 100% I think I'm just engulfed in that . So it's like I've never really had any other kind of perspective on it . It's just I'm always a crowd member , no matter what I'm doing .
Speaker 2Here's a crowd member who's like oh , I'm going to go on stage right now , yeah .
Speaker 4You just walk up on a stage . If I had a crew member shirt and then a band came on that I liked , I'd be like in the pit , you know , with my crew member shirt so I could get back into my job . Be like hey guys , 15's over , yeah right .
Speaker 2Yeah , I feel it . It , yeah , that's the thing like I love going to shows , it's like playing at shows , it's like you know double duty right there .
Speaker 3You know , yeah , exactly I think it's amazing because I get to not only play shows , but I get to go see these bands that I absolutely love . Yeah , yeah , and I'm , you know , sharing a stage with them I've gotten to share stages with so many incredible acts that I'm like , oh I gotta , I'm gonna go to the show for free and I get to watch the concert .
Speaker 1Yeah , that's amazing , that's honestly , that's honestly a dream for me because , like a lot of the people I grew up with , that's what they hit me with , like dude . It's insane . You used to listen to calabrese and introduce me to them . Now you're playing with them , yes , and it's like , yeah , bliss , kid man , like two . Those are honorable moments for me .
Speaker 5Bridge city sinners you and I were talking about them .
Speaker 1Yeah , you guys met me talking about the shit out of them . I'm like dude Bruce Cedis is in it . You're going to play with them I was like I got a surprise for you . It was next Amigo the Devil Manifest , that shit man .
Speaker 3He's next . He's next . You heard us . Amigo , I'm coming for you . You're up , sarah ? Yeah , oh , to warm up these vocals , because if I didn't , there's no way anyway , I wanted to ask about that too .
Speaker 4It was like we hear you and it's only like a minute . Do you do more , like when you drive to the show ?
Speaker 3yeah , okay , I'm singing all day .
Speaker 4I'm like because , like you're you , we hear you in the bathrooms and it's like only for like a minute and she's like , oh , I'm done , I'm like her warm-up .
Speaker 1So the sound check like the mic check , oh yeah I do definitely get that's .
Speaker 3I mean , that's just to get everybody's attention , to be like if they're not paying attention to our band , they're gonna get you get them or that shit but she gives everyone the chills .
Speaker 3I'll sing all day long and I'll do a nice warm-up before I play and then I just kind of get in the zone , like same with delmi . Like all of a sudden I'll be like what is that song ? So I'll have to play it again in my headphones and listen to another song , and I mean grant . And I forget lyrics all the time because I think about them too hard .
Speaker 3Once you think about it , it's over that's so true I don't care how I'm , I'm never nervous , because I always tell myself this , play this show like it's the last show you'll ever play , like that's it like what if this is your ? What ? What if this is the last song you'll ever sing ? Oh man , that's it like and that's how I play or sing , I should say I almost started thinking about that now .
Speaker 2That's it like what if this ? What ?
Speaker 3are you gonna leave ? What are you gonna leave up there ?
Speaker 4that's yeah , see that that I think that's how I see it too was uh , is that participant in the crowd ? Stuff is just because , like I haven't had recordings and stuff like that . I'm just like , okay , if I play , I play , you know , leave it with something , that's it . Whatever gets played , gets played , and I think that's why me and Toby have like high improvised skills . Especially when we go live , we're always changing our lips , you know . We're always changing our fills , you know , because , like , we keep the record nice and clean and then live , we want to keep it .
Speaker 3Oh yeah , because you want to be able to play that live . That's what I talk about . Live like the live version is always a little more spicy . Yes , because ?
Speaker 2because , like with live bands , like you're hearing the band , not the record , you know I mean you're there because you support those musicians and their ability to no , and then , instead of like , because you could just put on the record if you just want to hear the song , exactly , exactly , yeah , but you want a little same every time . You want a little different here thing , a little extra solo a little . You know .
Speaker 5I know I never heard this part of the song before yeah , I don't know if you guys ever noticed , but I also do that .
Speaker 1It's probably hard to notice , but I do like a little extra yeah , now I kind of emphasize better things than I could have done in the album . I was like I'm just gonna leave it like that and do the life stuff , life .
Speaker 3Like I , like you , gotta give them a little hint . Yeah , they're playing for the live show .
Speaker 2It ends up being like . If there ever were like the idea of like a live album , yeah , it would sound different than just . It's not like you're just buying the same thing , but with people clapping at the beginning , no , it there because they're like so crazy , phil , or we let bromden go crazy on the drum yes , yes , yes , freaking dummies over there banging away . Yeah , yeah , most definitely . That's one thing I love about live it's .
Speaker 3I like it being different than the actual song so , having performed for you know years now and done what you've done , if you could go back and give your younger self like one piece of advice , what would you give them ? What would you say ? We're like hey , listen , yeah , this is what you need to remember . Like , what would you say ?
Speaker 1honestly , for me it'll be just consistence and like just stay consistent , because there was a lot of breaks where I could have kept going and instead I get distracted . I get into cars , I get into art , I get into tattooing , I get into this and that and in the end it's like the guitar is always there for me , yeah , and like music's always there for me . So I always saw it . I was like , okay , if this doesn't work out , I'll go back to music .
Speaker 2But if I could stay consistent and it was the thing that I would do every day , oh man , I would be a monster now , but that's what I would tell myself stay consistent , because this consistency yeah , literally on that topic , like because trumpet was my first instrument and that's like , as I got more into keys , I fell off in the trumpet and what I would tell myself is don't stop playing the trumpet , keep playing it just as much , don't let the keys get in the way of the trumpet . You know , I mean , that was my original love , right there don't worry we're gonna make you bring out that .
Speaker 1Yeah , yeah , I do feel like coming yes , what's that ?
Speaker 5I think I would just tell myself um , the same way that you don't care what people think right now as a kid yes , don't care as an adult , because when I used to play shows back in the day , I wouldn't get nervous , I would just go on stage and like I would party all , all the time it's almost like switched yeah it's almost like you have this like care .
Speaker 3when you're older , that's different .
Speaker 1Okay , yeah , I remember that 100% . They played at the Pico Sports Arena yeah .
Speaker 5Did you ever ?
Speaker 4I was little dude , she was not nervous , she was all over the the guys from Redbone . Yeah , that's cool .
Speaker 1Redbone is awesome .
Speaker 4You'll love that . I was going to say quit , you know , no , no , just like how Delmi said with the I don't care , just ignore the ridicule .
Speaker 5Yeah .
Speaker 4Really , that's all it is Like , when I literally like for me , I quit learning guitar at 10 because of ridicule . Yeah , I was 10 , with tiny fingers playing a classical guitar which you know , that's hard .
Speaker 2Like , do you ?
Speaker 1have 12 strings . No , it's a six string , but it's like they're spread out more . Yeah , they're stripped out , I see , so it's like my little hands have to like crunch it down , you know .
Speaker 4Well , you're little yeah and like it down . Yeah , well , you're little , yeah and uh , and like you know , I went to uh , elac , east east los angeles college for a uh , like little summer sessions and all that and like the teacher was a complete , like a hole . I'm like then , why did you have a age limit from 10 to 18 ? Like he would like move my fingers , like as if he was like an angry parent and like like move my fingers like no , like this you know like Jesus man and , as you can see , my hands , my fingers are pretty long .
Speaker 4Now I think I'm big enough and now I do this . You know , but it was just all that . And then to see what the world does now and how music is so diluted and how much people are just faking that they love music now , yeah , like uh , I , I completely wish I would have just said ignore the ridicule , fuck it . You know more than most of these people and you're only like 10 .
Speaker 4Yeah you know , and it's , it's weird . You know , when you're like you're 10 and you're going , you're already going to like punk shows and metal shows and people are like you go to those it's shows and people are like you go to those it's like yeah . And then when you go to high school , everybody's faking that . They know about it . I never like all the punks that I knew they're like . Oh yeah , I got into punk when I was a freshman .
Speaker 3I was like I wasn't even 10 .
Speaker 4I was in kindergarten preschool singing . I Saw your Mommy from Suicidal that's my oldest . My dad would play Suicidal Tendencies in the car taking me to 3K and he would play Pennywise and all that shit and then I would find his Megadeth , his Metallica , you know . So then I was introduced into Thrash , you know , but I knew so much stuff like um , like way beyond that , I think I in my generations I just kind of see it as like , oh , at this point , between one and ten , I was like in my 50s era , you know six , and , and then 10 and like 15 . That was like my 70s era . You know , I was really into 70s bands , you know . And then like it's like the music . Now it's like it's gotten stale , and then , and then you know AI and whatnot . Don't want to talk about that . Well , you know , you digress , I digress , you know it's , it's like . My biggest example is when we played the pre show at the whiskey . Everybody had drummers and stuff . But then when , when I got on there , the real is , I'm soon .
Speaker 4Oh my God , I hit that bass drum and I was like boom , I've got the whole room shaking and I was like , uh , did I do something wrong ? It was no , because it was . Everybody triggered their drums and that was the thing . And a lot of guys can't play without microphones , and that's true . That's just an opinion , I'm not saying anything bad it's just observation , I'm just observing ? Yeah , I'm just observing . I'm not going to tell you who or what you're doing .
Speaker 1It's like that . Now , man , they eliminated amps from shows . It's all triggers , it's all fake , it's all well produced . No more raw .
Speaker 4Yeah , we need , I need analog . I can't feel it If I can't feel it coming back to me . I don't want to do it . You know , it would really suck , like when I play an electric drum set and I'm hitting it like beast mode and I'm just like I'm not hitting hard enough and I'm just like You're just breaking it .
Speaker 2Yeah , it's crazy .
Speaker 3All right , tobes . What would you tell your younger self ?
Speaker 1Oh all right , what's your ?
Speaker 3what would you tell ?
Speaker 2your younger self . Oh , just don't stop playing that trumpet . Oh yeah , oh yeah , we were on that's right .
Speaker 3We were on toby , that's right . Stop . Yes , oh me , oh gosh , um , I don't know really . I guess , just like you guys , you know , maybe at a younger age , realizing that just fucking who cares ? Like what anybody thinks , you know , I think at a younger age , realizing that just fucking who cares , like what anybody thinks , you know , I think in my first band I was so young I mean I started when I was 18 and that band was like my formative years of just you know , girls and punk rock , and just I had an ego the size of my freaking building .
Speaker 3It was just , it was bad , I guess , just to be more humble , younger and just to kind of ground myself more . Because as the years have gone on , I've gotten more professional and I'm just like I would not have been my own friend when I was in my 20s at all . I was an asshole and it just you know . I had to get grounded and I had to find myself and just be an adult and realize , you know , you have to be at the same level as everybody else . I think that growing up in my first band we got so big , so fast that you know , you think all of a sudden your shit doesn't stink , and then you get knocked off your high horse and you realize , no , you're fucking just like everybody else , and so I've carried that ever since , and I wish that I would have learned that younger Just be humble , just be humble and grateful .
Speaker 4Yeah , just be humble . Just be humble and grateful . Yeah . So a side question on that , like , since you're somebody who has experience doing that , what , what would say , pushed you towards that transition ? Was it just the quickness of being successful ? Was it the quickness of the business aspect being more important than what you were doing in your normal lives ? Was it , like , what made you feel like at that point you were bigger than what you thought ?
Speaker 3Oh , it was so big and so fast . I mean , we won an Orange County Music Award . We were on tour all the time . We were playing huge music festivals . We were playing with , like , say , ferris and Berlin , and Fishbone and we were playing these huge festivals and we just we were , we were on .
Speaker 3we were on number one on 98.7 . Back in the day , our heads were huge . We had a huge fan base . It blew up really quick but then the dissolution on the freaking fights and the knockdown drag out . It was all chicks . I do not suggest an all chick band .
Speaker 1Man , let's call it a boy band .
Speaker 3She said it Love you all to death . And it was an experience . But I tell you what , when I say we had fistfights , we had fistfights . I mean we were volatile , it was , it was crazy .
Speaker 2Dynamics are definitely different .
Speaker 3So I just the just the amount of stuff thrown at you
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Speaker 3at such a young age and then dealing with like okay , there's reality , like there's reality outside of that Cause . I mean , we'd play Vegas and you couldn't even see where the people ended . You'd play the .
Speaker 3Huntington Beach period . You couldn't see where the people ended . It was just like insane . It was outside of my realm of like oh , there's a reality outside of this and knowing that , yes , you're still a normal human being . And I think just having that balance and finding that balance when you're younger will take you so much farther . But it's hard . I think it's hard to know . You know , if that's all you've ever known , if you're like okay , well you're just thrown into this when you're 18 .
Speaker 3And then it's like go for it . And but I think that that I took good and good things and bad things . So I took the mentality like I still have , like I don't do anything , little Like when I told you guys , when we started this , I'm like I hope you're ready because I'd go for it and I do everything a hundred percent but . I don't know how to do anything small I think , because that's how it's always been for me .
Speaker 1I told that to gilbert . Yeah , I was like dude , you're not even to fuck around man .
Speaker 4That's why I had a I felt like this whole thing was an ultimatum for about everybody , because right off the bat , when I told you , I was like all right , I'll give it to you and see how this goes , but once you guys call it , I'm calling it , don't call me again it wasn't like don't call me again , we're not friends . Don't call me again for drums .
Speaker 4Drums are gone drums are gone if I'm gonna join a band , you better have a bar residency and I'm gonna go play covers for you . Yeah , I'm not . I'll go do that and go get $200 a night . I wouldn't be . I wouldn't be sad about that .
Speaker 4I'd be fine with that yeah , same thing but this was like this is an ultimatum man like I just straight up was just telling . I told him like from the get-go I was like all right , dude , like if you back out , you do whatever , you're gone , I'm gone , I can't . I can't keep holding up people anymore . You know it's hard when you're in bands over the years . And then the problem is all those . In my perspective , the problem is all of those bands are like we can't continue , we don't have a drummer .
Speaker 4Hey , and then I'm in there and then somehow those people go ghost .
Speaker 4That's the thing , it's the beginning of the end once it's like that , once you get invited to try to replace someone when they've already been doing it for years and stuff like that you know cause you can't get that dynamic yeah , and those guys just like snuff out and I'm just like damn it , dude , like , and it's happened so many times that I , like when you called , I was like you're in for a long run , brother , and I said that to Gilbert Dave Sarah says jump , we jump , and he didn't jump .
Speaker 1You know , because there was a time at the Bar , sinister , and he needed our backup and he didn't back up . Like I had to go and tell that drunk dude something , remember , oh yeah .
Speaker 2And at that moment I was just like oh , dude , you're not in .
Speaker 1Like yeah , yeah , because this is , this is like a family .
Speaker 2To be honest , it's not like we're just playing music or anything like .
Speaker 1Honestly , these are people who I cherish and if you see someone fall down , like fucking pick him up .
Speaker 4He's your brother , he's your sister you know , I think what everyone should , should at least know , while saying that is like you know , we , we had our spats too already and it's only been what two to three years , almost three , yeah , and you know , have those early , no like . And I'm just saying , like you know , just work through it if you can , because , like those small little fights in the beginning are always going to be there if you don't talk about it yeah exactly they build yeah , egos , egos are everywhere .
Speaker 4But it's just like those beginning facts just fucking talk about it and then it'll snuff out . Just say what you're saying . If you don't say , it won't , it won't happen yeah , and it's communication . Honestly , it comes down to it that's 100 , like we all , we all had to had to fix ourselves in order to get to this professionalism .
Speaker 2We didn't just wake up with professionalism we you know , we we decided to be professional like I , like that we understood that , like what we're doing is more important than any little petty thing , like that it's like , at the end of the day , what we're trying to do , like playing the music that we play , that's ultimately what we're trying to do .
Speaker 1I think we just have the right fucking elements at the right fucking time , because everything is going our way .
Speaker 4That's awesome at the right fucking time because everything is going our way . You know , like it's . That's awesome . I think it's crazy to have like the like ensemble that it is . Is that like you brought everybody because you know everybody some somewhere in some connection ? Yeah , but the thing is , is that everyone here has been doing the backyards for so long and everything ? We've never been anywhere close to sarah's level at any point . Having her as our front woman , it's just kind of funny to be like . It's like we're all on the same level but we've not all been at the same level .
Speaker 3I just need to open your Pandora's box , you guys .
Speaker 4Come on .
Speaker 1We just all need to come together , that's right .
Speaker 4I like it right now yeah like like how you were asking what was it last week ? Like the biggest stages we've played and , like you know , mine was like 1720 , yeah , and then the punk rock bowling stage , like that sort of size , yeah , it's like you know , I've never played anything bigger than that , you know , and I don't I've never seen people not end , you know , I've seen people end in the first 10 feet .
Speaker 4So I mean , I've never seen that . It probably it probably shake me , you know cause it's not happened yet . I've seen crowds at the whiskey . I've seen crowds at 1720 and I'm like , okay , that's cool , yeah , but I've never been at that bigger arena level yet . So it's like I don't know what that's going to be like .
Speaker 3You'll be there .
Speaker 4That shell shock is like I'm worried .
Speaker 3We're manifesting that .
Speaker 4I'm ready for that shell shock .
Speaker 3Don't worry , the lights you can't see . You can't see them anyway , that's awesome .
Speaker 4I got a mask .
Speaker 2I won't look at the crowd , because I'm looking at all of y'all being like yo . Isn't this great ? Like isn't this music just phenomenal ? Yeah , like just look at everybody and be like no , look at that bass part right there . Yeah .
Speaker 4And .
Speaker 2Mikey's playing right here like yeah . Yeah , I'm just there , just I'm just enjoying , so I'm just jamming out . I'm just there , just I'm just enjoying , so I was just jamming out , but we just happen to be in front of a bunch of people .
Speaker 3That's really what it is well , I just want to say I appreciate every one of you honestly , like you're my family and if you go anywhere I'll find you okay . So I like to end every single interview with my favorite question . I'm going to start with Delmy what's your favorite horror movie ?
Speaker 5I think I would say , jason , maybe . So Friday the 13th , yeah , friday the 13th . Okay , which one , I don't know . I feel like I haven't seen them in a while , but I feel like those were like the scariest like they were so scary back then .
Speaker 3Oh , my goodness , yep , yeah , that's a good one .
Speaker 1Nike , I don't know . I grew up on horror so I would just say Highway to Hell probably , and a lot of people don't even know what that is . But yeah , that was an awesome fucking movie and I loved cars because of that movie . I was a little kid and it was like that . And Tremors that's a horror movie . I just watched that recently Like a lot of older movies because my brother would make me watch shit with him , like even Mars Attacks .
Speaker 1That movie would scare the fuck out of me as a kid man and I'm like dude , yeah . So I like that genre of horror . I don't like bullshit aside .
Speaker 1I like that genre of horror . I don't like none of this whole new Jason and Michael Myers . All that shit's just too trendy and people are stupid and people follow trends and use that shit for their own benefit and like go to fucking like a convention now and you see the same shit . Like you're telling me wolf , you see the same shit on every table because this shit's so trendy and everyone wants to like the same shit , you know .
Speaker 3So I like , I like the older shit when it was like you really feel like you're raising him .
Speaker 1We're talking about movies here Horror For me . I grew up on that horror so I can't really say I like just one . I grew up on a lot of them , candyman .
Speaker 3Oh , Candyman was so bad .
Speaker 1Props to Jeepers , creepers what the fuck .
Speaker 3Why is he not on the map ? Why is he not on the map ? Wait a minute , but that was scary as shit until you saw him .
Speaker 1I love Jeepers , creeper . I was like he looks like a giant roach , no , but when he's just flying around , if they just would have not shown his face it would have been so scary . Like all these cosplayers , are trying to be the same cosplayer as everyone else . Why haven't you seen Jeepers , creepers , walking around ?
Speaker 3That would be so sick broach . I mean , I'll be honest , I'm not . I'm not a huge horror guy .
Speaker 4I'm not okay , but I mean , that's fine , let me see what's your favorite movie . No , I'll stick to the horror genre because I have seen my fair share , but I gotta say the only ones that I did really like , because you did bring it up . I did really like the first candyman , like the first original Candyman . So good . I do love that one , but I also like Gremlins it's a creature .
Speaker 4It's a creature horror . It's a Christmas movie Merry fucking Christmas . But yeah , I love that one or I'll go . Psychological thriller , Donnie darko yeah like psychological better yeah , like those things are fine with me . I I can't do too much of that gorg lore anymore . I'm gonna say after saw I was like okay oh , I can't do it no more , just it's over . Yeah , I feel that , so I'd rather , I'd rather , I'd rather you make me feel scared rather than trying to visually scare me . Yeah , because right now it's not working .
Speaker 3I think that messes with you more . Just the wonder , or just like the mental weirdness yeah .
Speaker 4That's better . It just leaves you more Like the visual can go away , because then you'll saturate it with something . But then if you're left with something psychologically , yeah , then that can somewhat relate to your life , that's there forever , damage you .
Speaker 3Yeah .
Speaker 4Yeah , it'll remind you of some shit you know , so everyone be careful of those there's a good one .
Speaker 2Um , there's a psychological horror called 1408 .
Speaker 3Oh yes .
Speaker 2For some reason like and then apparently there's like there's different endings . You saw it in theaters and if you buy it on , DVD or if you buy it . Yes , you can do the alternate endings , so there's different alternate endings and like with some of the different ones , you're like this is like great they're so good , and then it ends .
Speaker 3It even ends like three times anyway , and then you think he's out and you're like wait , he's still in . Exactly , oh , it still gives me chills .
Speaker 4That would be so good . Speaking of psychological numbered movies , have you ever seen 187 ? No , oh , I fucking love 187 .
Speaker 3Okay , I gotta see it .
Speaker 4It's a Samuel L Jackson movie .
Speaker 3You had me at Samuel L Jackson . It's all you gotta say .
Speaker 4I can't remember if it was . I think it's based off a true story . I was , like I think , a New York teacher . He was a New York teacher , he gets stabbed . I think I have seen this . He gets stabbed and in the movie it's Method man . It's like a quick scene , it's not the whole movie . But then he goes to like Los Angeles and he starts teaching all the kids in like Lincoln Heights and all that , and then they start messing with him .
Speaker 3Yeah , it's all crazy .
Speaker 4Yeah , instead of like just reporting it now he's like
Favorite Horror Movies
Speaker 4taking them out . You know , yeah , that movie when my sister had rented it around , like I was like 13 or something like that , so like she showed me most of those things , so like when I saw that one I was like holy shit , this is crazy . And like I already watched , like most of those hood-esque movies , those are my horror movies Blood In , blood Out , american .
Speaker 2News .
Speaker 4Those are my horror movies because those are seriously the real story .
Speaker 3Have you guys seen Zoot Suit right .
Speaker 4Yes , and we all grew up on Goosebumps .
Speaker 3No , how about Tales of the Dark ? Tales of the Dark .
Speaker 2Tales of the Dark . Tales of the Original Horror I used to read scary books more than I watched .
Speaker 1I used to jack them from the library . You know how they have a book fair .
Speaker 3They're comic fairs .
Speaker 1I swear my mom would not buy me those , I would jack them .
Speaker 4That's what I tell people all the time . It's like today , people want you to love horror and want you to watch horror , and I'm like I'd rather have my music be more scary than than whatever they're going to show me for for an hour . It doesn't make me feel any better . It doesn't make me feel any uh like great . I spent good money on a good movie , like anything like that . Like it doesn't make me feel like that . But when I get a good album , I'm like , oh , I fucking love this and I listened to it all the time . Like I just uh re-listened to Karek Angren's uh , this is no fairy tale and uh , it's a whole story that's modified to talk about the story of Hansel and Gretel .
Speaker 3The real story of the Grimm fairy tale .
Speaker 4It is so tied to realisticness . The Hansel and Gretel are not just some kids in a house . No , no , no . They're just not some kids in a house . They're kids being abused . Their mom's an alcoholic , their father's abusive . They get kidnapped by they get kidnapped .
Speaker 2They don't just leave a , they run away from home .
Speaker 4They get kidnapped , murdered . It's depressive black metal , so let me point that out .
Speaker 4It's depressive black metal so let me point that out . It is depressive black metal , um , and in the words are very graphic . The , the , especially in that album . It is a bit hard to listen to because it's called . This is no fairy tale . So the lyrics , the writing , yeah , it's all written like a story , yeah . So the lyrics are kind of all all over the place with the music , so it's like there's not a total structure but there's definitely not an unmade structure . But I'm trying to ramble so this don't end I'm happy , toby .
Speaker 3What's your favorite ?
Speaker 2movie . Uh like , uh outside of 1408 . Uh , to be honest , the nightmare on elm street , like out of those like the 80s and like those uh , horror movies . Oh , like some . Uh , nightmare on elm street , like I always liked that . He would just say a nice little line as he's killing it's not it's not just silence just like a silent murderer it's like you know , he know he got some nice nights , he was like the finesse he was like oh yeah .
Speaker 2He was enjoying what he was doing . I like how that , if you like what you do , you never work a day in your life . And that's Freddy Krueger , you know .
Speaker 3He was enjoying those moments .
Speaker 4for sure I like how that Rick and Morty Scary Terry is supposed to be like the parody , but I'm like it's just . It's just Freddy Krueger .
Speaker 2Like the lines the quick lines are . It's still just him . It's just that to me . I just think it's so funny , cause it's like so it was about to die , but you just you're , you're laughing because you just said a little something , yeah .
Speaker 3Oh my goodness , Um classic 1922 Nosferatu .
Speaker 2I'm not talking about the pieces of shit that just came out .
Speaker 3I mean the classic . So the first time I watched it I was super young and I was in my mom's house and it was like this big window behind me , like a sliding glass door , and I was alone in the basement watching it and I'm like this is 1922 ? They did this makeup and it's just so incredible to me that they did this makeup and , like it's just so incredible to me that they did that back then and just the makeup and the effects and just it was so beautifully done and it was scary as shit .
Speaker 3And that's another case of like you don't need spoken word or you don't need it's just the , the mystique of it makes it an incredible film . I like those artsy horror films . I like a lot of black and white films , like Cabinet of Dr Caligari , phantom of the Opera , like a lot of black and white stuff , I don't know Just the older , older horror movies . Yeah , that's about it . Like classic Frankenstein Dracula . They're so good , they're the OGs .
Speaker 1Ended in the cup work . No , that's not a horror movie .
Speaker 2Ended in the cup work , my safe word my safe movie .
Speaker 3Are you like that , though ? If I watch a horror movie late at night , I'll have to watch a comedy after . Yeah .
Speaker 4I get you what's your go-to safe movie for your next watch .
Speaker 2then let's add that in .
Speaker 4What's the safe movie you would watch after something ? I love Shrek , any show , something to bring you back down not the gumdrop buttons , I love shrek . I feel like so original , I feel like I have to watch if I if I have like a really bad , like like I had a really bad uh episode with the movie yeah technique . Yeah , it was crazy . Uh , it was a , was it uh ?
Speaker 3bone tomahawk , oh yeah don't take me back there , okay . So you know what I'm talking about . I'm gonna you know what this is a warning to all of you don't , don't , don't , even don't the first .
Speaker 4The first scene should have warned me , because it was fucking captain spalding and uh and um , what's his god dang name ?
Speaker 3David Arquette .
Speaker 4And they were slicing a dude's throat , and I don't really watch horror movies , but when it got to the scene that we're thinking of . I had like a full blown , like disassociation out of body .
Speaker 3I couldn't handle it , I couldn't handle it , I couldn't handle it . It was a lot that . And have you seen the movie Tusk ?
Speaker 2Oh yeah , we just talked about that earlier today , didn't we ? No way , we literally did .
Speaker 3Poor . What is his name ? Oh gosh , the main actor .
Speaker 2He is in the most Barbarians .
Speaker 3Isn't he in Barbarians too ?
Speaker 5Yes , that poor baby , he's in the most barbarians .
Speaker 3Isn't he a barbarians too ? Yeah , yes , he , that poor baby . He's in like the most jacked up horror film speaking on now , I love barbarians .
Speaker 4I thought it was incredibly done but I think like , yeah , it's like with bone tomahawk , like after that , like something like that , I need to watch something like robin williams john candy , yes please something , something right outdoors . Yeah , something with somebody . No , because I feel like for me I need something . Something with somebody . No , because I feel like for me I need something that has somebody in it that's wholehearted give me some wholesome love John Candy .
Speaker 4There's nothing after that that . I can think that he was in something where I'm like , oh god , this is going to take me back to the other thing , you know , you know , so I'm just like John Candy . Uncle Buck , you know , is always a fucking laugh , you know , yeah , so that would be like one of my like go to safety movies what's your happy place ?
Speaker 5film dummy no happy place I don't know , I don't really have one like maybe like I love you man or yes , you sound Irish .
Speaker 3What are you doing ? You sound Irish . Why does everyone say that ?
Speaker 4Slapping the bass . Have you seen that funny or die side segment that they did where it was like a deleted scene , where they went to the Rush show and they went backstage ? Yes , and Jason Segel and Paul Rudd , they go in and in , they eat neil pert sandwich and shit . Like it says neil burke . He's like oh , we're backstage , it's just to warn off the people who don't have vip . I'm like what the fuck is that ? And he keeps calling pert . And then he's like it's pure . And he's like are you sure he's so funny ? Ask the guy his own goddamn name toby , what's your , your happy film ?
Speaker 2honestly , uh , when I do watch something like that , I probably watched something like from when I was a kid . So , like you know , five old goes west , or something like the american tale I was just at a bar that was playing that fucking ballad song . That's so fucking funny . That's the song I was thinking of right now . That's so freaking great for some reason just those movies .
Speaker 4I'm like those are some good times I was having oh dude , those kinds of movies get me all the time like , like , like land before time , that was so what ?
Speaker 3was it fhe family home entertainment that was like the , the brand like Land .
Speaker 4Before Time . Yes , yes , fhe Family Home Entertainment that was like the brand of movies that would have those kind Iron Giant .
Speaker 3Those are the movies that's my favorite Down the Rabbit Hole with our feel good guys so many good ones . I'm a nerd for like A League of their Own for the boys , but I can't watch for like A League of their Own For the boys . But I can't watch For the Boys with anyone else because I will sing literally every song .
Speaker 4You can't watch Ninja Turtles with me , the 90s ones . I will say every line , every line , every character .
Speaker 2That's funny .
Speaker 3There's just so many good films you can turn on to just nerd out , alright . Well , if you guys want to go around , leave our I don't know . There's just so many good like films you can turn on to just nerd out , all right . Well , if you guys want to go around , leave our lovely watchers with one little nugget of something you want to tell everybody about the band or what we have coming up , or anything you want anybody to know about yourself or this band , please feel free .
Speaker 2Yeah , I guess I'll start . I mean , honestly , uh , stay up to date with our music . Like listen on spotify , listen on youtube , like apple music , anything that you guys listen to , because you know the way that we're writing music , music you never know when it might come out . And with what we have put out , I mean , that sounds great , you know , and there's there's , there's different variety . The thing is , it's not like this song sounds like this , like each song stands alone as its own thing , like anytime , like I'll play a song . It's when they hear your voice singing where they're like , oh , this is your band . And I was like , yes , yes , oh , this was , oh , which you ? Just the same band that you just played . Yes , yes , yes , yeah , that's awesome , that's what they's . One thing I say no matter what genre you like , there's going to be something , one of our songs , that you're going to gravitate towards .
Speaker 4I'll handicap off of that one .
Speaker 4I guess it was like , yeah , with the music just being so gravitational , I feel like , like you said , when people hear Sarah singing , they , they . I think there's a switch that goes into people and I see it . It's so crazy . I'm back there , I just have like this song before I put on my whole mask , uh , and I'm just setting up , making sure everything's right where it is , and when they get her to sound check , I usually watch the people because they're usually talking and then they turn around . Yeah , you know . So when they're turning around , I love it , yeah . And then mikey comes in . Yeah , yeah , the show starts at his sound check .
Speaker 2Yeah , you know what you do , mikey that's what I like is that each of us , we do something for our sound check where it's like the show is starting , and we're just displaying a little bit of what we could do .
Speaker 4And I'll be ready and I just I think , like you know , for you putting in the music , I would just say , definitely , please come to the shows , not in a begging sense , but in a sense of , like you know , I'm begging . No , no , no , no , no no no , no , no , just experience I'll beg later .
Speaker 4I'll beg later , you know , but just right now I just feel like there's not too many bands right now who are hitting a certain sound for people right now , because right now the market is literally super pop uh , really brian corey metal or it's , uh , certain types of arena metals that are getting bigger right now , and I think the songwriting right now , especially what you hear when you see it , it's a lot different , you know . It's a lot more powerful , it's a lot more in your face . You know the record . The record , I would say you know the records , you know is a safe way to listen to it .
Speaker 4Uh , if you should , should bring earbuds to any show because , yes , I hit pretty hard , but , uh , I just think the live show , even when you don't know the music , it can still change your perspective on somebody like that . Like it changes me a lot when I don't know if I like a band , I have to go on youtube or something and be like live performance of a song that I'm like . Okay , I kind of like this song . How do they ? They do it live .
Speaker 4There's some bands where I have never listened to , because I heard a live album and it was so good that I just couldn't get into the studio .
Speaker 2That was Pantera .
Speaker 4My dad had the official live proof and that's all I heard . So I heard all of the good mic live recordings and when I heard the studio versions I was like I don't like this version and I never dove into their music . And the thing is I really do love like vinnie paul and like I was a huge fan of him because I heard becoming . That's why I wanted to play drums , more or less , and I've gotten a signature from him , I've gotten a drumstick from him , you know , and it's like I followed his career . It's just like you just like him live , I just like him .
Speaker 4I get in his live shows , you know , and it's just like it was crazy . And then you know I heard Hell , yeah and like Damage Plan and all that , but Pantera was just the one I couldn't do after I heard the official live , yeah , and so I'm just hoping that that doesn't happen . I'm just hoping that when they see us live , that it's showing them something different than what's going on right now yeah .
Speaker 4And I'm just happy that kind of , basically at this point it is and it's a good direction we're going in , I think . Yeah , I agree , I agree , wholeheartedly . Come to the show , goddammit Mikey . Yeah , I agree , I agree wholeheartedly Come to the show .
Speaker 3Goddammit Mikey , what do you want to ?
Speaker 1leave us with . Well , I First of all shout out to all the people that are going to watch this Shout out to all the people that have been there from day one Because we see them .
Speaker 1Shout out to you guys , because we're making this shit happen , we're working hard . Thank you for getting everyone here . I would say everyone , just do you . Fuck what everyone thinks Like we're trying to be different and we don't do it intentionally , it just happens . Every song sounds different because we don't care how we sound . We just want to produce and make shit happen . And , yeah , just shout out to the people . That's all this is about for me . The is about for me , the people and also all the people that are like tagging along in the ride the witch's ride , cheese tell me I don't know , um I guess what , going back to what um brompton was saying , um , like , check out our youtube .
Speaker 5We have like live performances on youtube . We have some music videos . We have like us just just doing our thing in Vegas , sort of like what we're doing prior to the show and then plus the show kind of thing .
Speaker 2That was weird . We need to do more of those .
Speaker 1I will do that .
Speaker 5Shout out to our unofficial videographer , gladys , my girlfriend .
Speaker 1Honestly , she's doing a great job . She got so many good shots Amazing girlfriend Gladys .
Speaker 5Shout out to Gladys , honestly , she's doing a great job . She's got so many good shots . She's got good .
Speaker 1She's got good shots , amazing footage , thank you . Yeah , it's getting better .
Speaker 5Well , just enjoy the live performance and interact with us when we ask you to interact with us .
Speaker 4Yeah , I think , especially Toby , you and me , especially since you have a half face mask , but it's the devil , and I wear a full face mask
Final Thoughts and Band Updates
Speaker 4We'll try to be more around the merch booths and all that , just to hang out , because we just we want to talk to the people who want to talk about our music . Like really , we just want to know what you guys think . Like it's fun to talk to people about this stuff .
Speaker 2We don't want to just talk to the musicians , because then at that point it's just hey did the snare sound off .
Speaker 4Yeah , right , you're talking about your performance and what went wrong . Yeah , just tell me what you liked . You can tell me what you liked . I like it 100% Honey .
Speaker 1Oh , Sarah , what you got to say .
Speaker 3No , I just want to say thank you . You know what ? I'm so thankful that I'm able to do this with my friends and I'm able to still be doing this after so many years . I just every show is a ride and I'm so thankful . I'm just I'm lucky . I feel like I'm a lucky with us leaving them at birthday parties and special events and anniversaries and we're like , oh , we got a show , we'll celebrate later .
Speaker 3Your patience and your love means the world to us . We couldn't do it without you . Exhibit for having us today , letting us have this platform . Come to the show next Friday . We're going to be there rocking out for all of you . We've got some good stuff coming up . Please follow our Instagram . Check out all of our things on Spotify . Everywhere you can stream us and we'll see you guys soon . Thank you , thanks , guys . We're out .