Thrive & Decide Guide to Divorce and Beyond

Finding Your True Power

• Sarah Thress • Season 1 • Episode 21

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What if the path to transformation wasn't through grinding harder, but through being gentler with yourself? Emily Phillips discovered this truth during her remarkable journey from military veteran to manifestation coach.

After 12 years of military service, Emily found herself struggling with self-doubt and a chaotic mind. The tight-knit camaraderie she'd experienced with fellow female service members seemed impossible to replicate in civilian life. "I thought that I was so damaged from the military that I would just be unlovable," she shares with raw honesty.

Everything changed when she began exploring meditation and personal development. The simple yet profound practice of sitting with her thoughts revealed how much negative self-talk was driving her decisions. "You don't know how much you actually hate yourself until you sit and think about it," Emily explains. Through consistent meditation and powerful "I am" statements, she gradually transformed her identity and outlook.

Perhaps most revolutionary is Emily's approach to physical transformation. After years of heavy lifting and intense workouts, she discovered that gentleness yielded better results. "I can't be hard on my body and gentle on my mind," she realized. This shift toward yoga and listening to her body's needs led to losing 25 pounds while feeling better than ever. Her coaching now helps women envision their ideal selves in vivid detail – not just setting goals but embodying the person who has already achieved them.

This conversation challenges the dominant narrative that suffering is necessary for success. Emily's journey proves that meditation, self-compassion, and celebrating small wins creates more sustainable transformation than hustle culture ever could. Connect with Emily for her life-changing daily affirmations and discover how manifestation might be the missing piece in your own journey.

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emily@theuniquebalance.com

https://www.instagram.com/meditate.with.emily/

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Speaker 1:

Hi and welcome to this week's episode of Thrive and Decide. This week I have Emily Phillips of Empowered Soul and she is a manifestation coach and really just kind of helps women empower, you know, just kind of embrace their power and feel empowered to go out there and do you know, the greatest things that they're supposed to do in their life. So, emily, thank you so much for taking time out to meet with me.

Speaker 2:

Absolutely. Thank you so much for having me.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, absolutely. So I would love for you to just kind of walk us through, like where did this idea come from? Because I just think you know we've heard about all the different coaches and all the different things. Um, and I know even you know, as I went through like my divorce journey, um, you know, I started like looking into all the different things and I've really gotten more into what some would call like the woo world. Um, I like to feel it, yeah, I like to think of it more as just like the world, but you know other people call it woo and you know. So it's been really cool to me to see that there were people like you out there that help women especially. I'm sure you help men too, but especially women, you know, kind of like, you know empower themselves. So again, I'd love for you just to kind of walk us through. You know, how did you even like get into this and tell us about your path?

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. So. I was actually in the military for 12 years and one of the things that I loved about being in the military was like specifically being a woman in the military, because that camaraderie around, like your other shipmates and the other people that, like you serve with, those women are in the same boat as you, they like feel the same things for you and, like you kind of are just all walking through this path together. And so when I got out of the military, I struggled to find like friends, and I struggled to find relationships that were, as you know, even as close to as to as that as I could find. And so I struggled for a long time.

Speaker 2:

I like really struggled with, like self-hate. I struggled with, you know, really chaotic mind. I struggled with really much like self-doubt and I thought that like I couldn't be a healed person and I thought that I was so damaged from the military that I like just was going to be like unlovable. And so I decided that I was going to start reading books that were going to make me feel better, and like my husband was, he's really great at like telling me things that I didn't want to hear in the beginning and saying things like you know you have to do this. Oh, I have a question though. Yeah, we edited out. Should I talk about my husband If this is a divorce?

Speaker 1:

you can talk about whatever you would like to.

Speaker 2:

Okay, I'm sorry. I thought about that and I was like, ooh, I don't know if that'll like be bad.

Speaker 1:

No, it's totally fine yeah.

Speaker 2:

Um, so I, I, my husband he really helped me like lean into loving myself and working with myself, and so I started meditating. And once I started meditating and really sitting with myself, I started like wanting to learn more about it. So I started learning more. I actually read this book. The very first book that got me into personal development was Girl Code by Kara Allwell Allwell I think that's her last name, and she's a coach, and she taught me one thing that was like I don't care if everybody else is at the bar drinking beer, I'm going to celebrate myself and I'm going to get a cup of champagne because that's what I want to drink and that's what I deserve, and I feel like I'm worth that, because that's what I want to drink and that's what I deserve, and I feel like I'm worth that. And so she bought an expensive drink of champagne and felt fabulous while she was doing it and it just kind of made me think like she was like on her last leg, like she was really like struggling in relationships, in all these things, and she felt really good about herself after doing exactly what she wanted. And so I was like I'm going to do exactly what I want, and so I decided that I wasn't going to listen to like that negative self-talk anymore. I wasn't going to tell myself that I couldn't do it, and I was going to manifest that I am a coach. And this was like before I got my coaching certification. This was before anything. I was like I am a coach. I would tell myself daily, like I am a coach. I would meditate on it and say like this is what I want my coaches to my coaching to look like. And I got my.

Speaker 2:

I found a program that I really liked. It was health and wellness, um, with like the life coaching certification, and I really liked what they had to say Um, but I really focused more on like the holistic health side of it, because I am very woo-woo and I think like sitting with your thoughts is like the most empowering thing that you can do for yourself, because you don't know how much you actually hate yourself until you sit and think about it. And so when I sat and thought about it for, you know, years, I was dwelling on it. But then, when I transformed it and made it say like okay, I don't hate myself anymore, I no longer want to hate myself, I want to love myself, I want to embrace myself Like I'm not who I was in the past, like I'm not a disabled vet, I'm not a PTSD veteran, like I am a soul coach who helps women manifest their dreams through meditation and life coaching, and like that's what I am and that's what I do now.

Speaker 2:

And like it makes me like tear up because I'm like so proud of like who I am now because it's completely different than who I was like even last year and so last year I wasn't, like I didn't have my niche last year, so this year I feel like I got it down. I know exactly what I got it down. I know exactly what I want to do because I know exactly how I can help women and like, like I do predominantly focus on women because I feel like we are more spiritual and we are more connected. And like that, essentially, like that's what I wanted was to find other women who I could connect with and who I can help thrive and love themselves, because I feel like most women don't and they hide it and they want to love themselves but they don't know how.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I totally agree. You know, in the military and then after the military is a lot of like what women go through when they're like you know you're in a marriage and you've got this partnership.

Speaker 2:

Yeah.

Speaker 1:

I think it's forever. You know and like, and then whenever you get out, you realize, holy crap, like I don't care, like how well you were when you went in, when you leave that marriage, there's always a piece of you that's missing that you've lost because you wanted to focus more on being the best wife or the best you know, mom or you know whatever you weren't thinking about. How do I take care of me? How do I become the best version of me? And so sometimes you know, as much as it sucks it takes going through that process to really realize. You know, as you go on your self journey, your self healing journey, you, you know it takes a while for you to realize like, huh, okay, that's super sucked, but look at me now you know. So I love that you're so proud of yourself because you should be like done some big, big things and that's huge.

Speaker 2:

I think so too, and I thank you so much for that Cause I like, I know that I'm really proud of myself and like I'm, I like want other people to be proud of me too, because I think that we should all be proud of each other. Like, every single day I don't remember where I heard this, but like you are doing a hundred percent as a human, and like you are every single day, you are showing up and you are being a human, so you are doing the right thing as keeping yourself alive, and that is enough until you can figure out what the next thing is, and and then that will be enough for you. And so, like, just keeping yourself alive one more day is like that's that's important and that is something to be proud of.

Speaker 1:

Yeah Well, and I think that's so true because some days, like you know, whenever I'm helping, you know people kind of going through a divorce or the loss of a spouse or whatever. You know it's all, every part of it, is a grief process and so.

Speaker 1:

I'm always like, if you feel like you know you need to cry, throw yourself the biggest pity party in the world. Do it all in, throw that pity party, because then the next day you're going to be able to pull your big girl panties up and move on and it's going to be so much better than if you keep suppressing it. And the same about, like it's just. Like I always say, it's a roller coaster, like some days your lows are going to be really low and then the next day your highs can be really high, but eventually your lows don't get as low and your highs get higher and it starts to kind of even out. But again it goes back to just doing that one thing that day. So if the one thing you did that day was get out of bed, good for you. Like, literally give yourself a high five, any of the things. Like awesome, you know, if you brush your teeth today, that's another gold star. Good for you.

Speaker 1:

Like, just like, celebrate all the little things and they will start to add up and it'll start to get easier, like as you, as you celebrate.

Speaker 2:

So when you said that, I was thinking like my, I used to go to therapy and my therapist would always start off with a check-in and she would say like, did, like how is your hygiene, how is your dental hygiene, how is this? And I was, like I asked her one day, like why do you ask me these questions? Like do I stink? And she was like no, emily, she's like people who come in here and who are depressed.

Speaker 2:

Sometimes, like you don't realize that you stopped taking care of your health, like your physical health, your emotional health, and like sometimes, like those things just fall through and like I need to make sure, like I'm making sure that, like you are aware that, like you're winning because, guess what, you're telling me that you took a shower this morning and that you brushed your teeth this morning, so like I'm really proud of you. And I like sat there and I thought about it for a second and I was like she's right when I didn't feel good about myself, like I didn't, like I let myself go with weight, with my like my hygiene, with my skincare, like all the things, and so I didn't think about it until she like was like no, duh.

Speaker 1:

I know Well, and it's so crazy because those are things that, like, we just don't think about, because after you know like five or six, like it just becomes part of your daily pattern. But, whenever you're in, you know, like whenever you're in that fight or flight or that you know depressive state, you're not thinking about all of those things and you, you know, you stop doing all your usual things. And you know. So it is huge, like literally, if all you did was get out of bed today. Awesome, awesome.

Speaker 2:

That's it, like, literally, if all you did was get out of bed today, awesome, awesome, that's it. You know, I totally agree with that I love that so much.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I do too. So, yeah, so, but your style, or like what you kind of focus on with coaching. What I love about it is it's not just your traditional like coaching, it's like helping women to kind of see their potential, so kind of see what is actually out there waiting for them. All they have to do is just like receive it. But I'd love for you to kind of walk us through like what does a session, you know, feel like with you? And I'm sure everyone is different and everything is unique, but you know, maybe are there certain things that you do with every session or yeah, absolutely.

Speaker 2:

So I always start off my sessions, so my coaching sessions are the same. So I have with my packages that I do. I do coaching sessions and I do meditation because I really believe that, like when we're doing coaching, a lot of the things will come up through our meditation process. So we do coaching and then meditation each week. So we'll meet twice a week and but for our coaching sessions they always are the same, like our very first one. It's a connection call.

Speaker 2:

I figure out, like what your biggest goals are in life. Like I want to know the top of the top goals that you have. And like sometimes there are things like I just want to be healed, like I just want to be happy, I don't want to be mad anymore. Or like sometimes there are things like I want to, you know, earn a million dollars this year and I'm like, okay, let's figure out how we're going to do that, and then we break it down. So then I give them all right. What are reasonable action steps that we can do? Like what is like we're not going to wake up tomorrow and we're going to have a million dollars in our bank account, but what does the version of you. That and this is where we get into the manifesting is I teach people how to own that version of a millionaire and see themselves as that person. So literally step into the side of that body and say what does this person sound like? What do they say? Like, what kind of conversations do they have at dinner? What kind of friends do they have around them? So if you want to be a millionaire like, do you still shop at 7-Eleven to get your Slurpees every day? Or do you want to go over and, you know, maybe get a fancy drink with your girlfriends, you know somewhere else, and like, so you want to go out and you want to meet people and you want to do all these things, if you want to be healed, you're not going to stay inside and stay under the covers, because that's not what the healed version of you does.

Speaker 2:

The healed version of you goes outside, they sit in the grass, they connect with earth. I'm very big on connecting with earth. I'm very big on like going and grounding yourself and like collecting energy from the moon. And so I always tell my clients, like, if you're struggling with depression, like, go outside and look at the moon, because nobody can look at the moon and not smile. It's so beautiful and it's so powerful, like it's so powerful and you just get, so you can absorb so much, just like natural healing from that moon's energy and so, um, but each one of my sessions, like we go into visualization techniques, we, we, I like we'll have them sit and think about, like, what does this person do on a daily basis?

Speaker 2:

Okay, now, this is what you're going to do tomorrow. You're going to wake up at five 30 and you're going to do your affirmations and you're going to journal for 15 minutes and you're going to meditate for 15 minutes. Because that's what a healed person does is they get up in the morning and they do all the things that help them and that make them feel fulfilled, and I kind of just give them like those little tools to just help them love themselves a little bit more.

Speaker 2:

So, like I can create skincare routines for people, which is mainly just like just go wash your face, like if you've never washed your face before go wash your face, go go to CVS and find like a really great like cleanser and moisturizer, and your life will be completely forever changed.

Speaker 1:

Yeah.

Speaker 2:

Right Moisturizer.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I know, I love that Because I just think that again, you know, sometimes people don't understand, you know, and I I will say, man, if you had talked to me, maybe even three years ago, I wouldn't have understood what you were just saying. But because I've continued down this path, I now can hear those words and I'm like, oh, I now picture myself, you know, in my house, on the beach that I know I'm going to have, and I feel grateful, I feel gratitude. I can picture myself standing there next to, you know, next to my husband, and I can see the sun shining on me and you know I can see you know, the beach and the ocean, like I can see all that and I can feel the gratitude.

Speaker 1:

And then in my everyday life I try and feel that same gratitude and it's like just knowing, you know that you are feeling that feeling now and knowing that that's going to come. You don't even have to worry about how it's going to happen. Like, and I was literally I've always, I'm a recovering people pleaser, recovering, you know, control freak. So, yeah, so I learned all of that through my divorce as well. That was super fun. But, you know, as I've gone on this health journey, you know, in the spiritual journey and all of that, like you know, it's been really cool to now be like, oh, that's what they meant. So when you were like, oh, my God, I get it, I know what you're saying.

Speaker 2:

It's so funny because, like so many people right now, they're like they're triggered by like the things that I have to say because they're not healed, and like that's okay. Like you can be triggered, you can feel frustrated about it and like you can have like your own opinions about it, but like I, I do feel like I know where you, like where you came from, like I I've been divorced, like I get it and like it was really hard and you think that you're gonna be with somebody forever. But like things do get easier and like you do move through it and like it's part of your past that is either super important to you or it's something that you can like pocket away and say like OK, that happened and I'm OK with that happening and I feel completely at peace with what happened and I can forgive myself and I can forgive them and I can move on. And then you don't have to like think about it anymore and it's so much nicer to like I have forgiven myself, I have forgiven this person and I can just pack it, this away and not have to stress about it, like it's not dwelling on me, it's not creating a negative aura around me, because I feel like once you like bring it up and like keep talking about it and keep having like that negative emotion towards whatever feeling it is, then it's just it's not going to go away. So you have to like accept and acknowledge and so I do work with my clients on that too.

Speaker 2:

Like sometimes you know they're struggling with like that self doubt and I'm saying like okay, but you're, you know, you you've got this. Like you you tell me all the time like these are the things that you want, these are the things that you've got. Like you're setting all these goals. Like you can do this, like look at all, the look at all the goals that we have achieved already and those are your small goals, but they're still goals and like there's still wins. So like if it's worth celebrating, then it's worth like remembering and having that like excitement about it.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, well, and I love that because it reminds me of a book I listened to recently called the Gap in the Game by Dan Sullivan, and so I don't know if you've listened to that one or read it, but it's really geared more towards business. But I have found that it actually makes so much sense to an everyday life because it's truly thinking about the gap in the game thinking. So the game thinking is looking back, like what you just said. You're looking back on all the things you've already done and you're like, holy crap, look how far I've come. Like, yeah, you know, so excited.

Speaker 1:

But gap thinking, you're only looking at what you're lacking. You're only like, well, yeah, but I'm not, you know, I don't have a million dollars in my bank account, I don't have my beach house, I don't have, you know, and it's like, okay, cool. But let's look back, like over the last, you know, even the last three months, what have you done that has moved you closer to it? Like you know? So, like, when you focus on the gain, so you focus on the positive, then it allows you to like move forward, whereas if you stay in that lack mentality or, you know, only focus on what you don't have, yet it's going to keep you stuck.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely. And that is like, excuse me, one of the biggest things with manifesting. And I was actually listening to Mel Robbins yesterday in one of her books and she had specifically said what exactly, word for word, not word for word, but like very specifically what you just said. Like when you think about the lack of things, like you're always going to have lack then and you're never going to look at what you've already come, like how much you've already grown. And so when I teach manifesting, I teach that like we're not hoping for things, we're not wishing for things, because when you're wishing and you're hoping, you're still focusing on lack.

Speaker 2:

And when you're saying I am, those words after I am are the most powerful statements. So I am healed, I am a business owner, I am happy, I am alive. Like those words are so powerful because they are true statements to who you are. And so if you're saying like, oh, I hope to be happy, then you're now saying I'm not happy right now, but I hope to be happy one day. So if I carry around that energy, I'm still carrying around the energy that I'm lacking something, instead of saying like I am happy and I'm going to stay happy.

Speaker 2:

I'm always something, instead of saying like I am happy and I'm going to stay happy, I'm always happy Like I am so happy, and so like when you, you, just you come off with a better and more positive energy, and like when you put out positive energy in the world, you open up and you attract positive energy. So like, of course we have connected because your vibration is positive and my vibration is positive, so we connected that way. But you know, if I was carrying around this like lack, you'd be like oh, we're not, we're not the same.

Speaker 1:

We're not on the same Right, I know.

Speaker 1:

And what's interesting to me too is, as I've really leaned more into, you know, the woo world and really like leaned into the spiritual journey, I have found that it's so much easier now, like I just, and my life isn't easy.

Speaker 1:

I'm not saying that I don't have any difficulties or any issues by any stretch of the means, but you know, it's like I I have an issue and then I'm like, okay, well, that sucks, all right, well, how are we going to fix that? You know, and it's just like, instead of sticking there, like, oh, my car broke down and my kids wrecked it, and you know, just like all the different things, like you know, instead of staying in that, it's more like, okay, well, that sucks, let's fix it, let's move on, you know, and just like staying that positive. And then it's the same, as you know, like what you put out there, you're going to get back. So you know, whenever you're like man, that person's so lucky, well, I mean, maybe there's a little bit of luck in there, but really what it is is they're just staying positive and so if they're putting positivity out into the world, they're getting positive things back.

Speaker 1:

When you're in a shitty mood all the time. You're going to get shitty things back Like that's just how this works Like yeah, absolutely, I totally agree.

Speaker 2:

And like you can, like it is. I've like like let people out of my life because they were just a ball of negativity and I'm like listen, like I cannot listen to you anymore, like complain about your life and how miserable you are, when like you're not wanting to change it, like I really want to help you but like I can't just be your backboard all the time. You know like you have to make those changes If you want to, if you want to change, if you want things to change, then like you have to change. And that is like another thing we talk about in manifesting is that like you can't just say like I am this and then don't do anything. You have to have action behind it. You have to have action behind everything. If you say like I am healed or I am happy, and then you go and cry into like a bowl of Jim and what Ben and Jerry's ice cream Cause you're sad, then like you're just going to lie to yourself.

Speaker 2:

But if you're happy and then you go do things that like happy people are doing and like when you're happy, like what do you do when you're happy? You go outside, you read a book. You do art, like you do whatever, like whatever fills your cup is what you do right now. Mine is yoga. I'm like so into yoga and I love that. Yeah, it's like I literally lost 25 pounds this year by like completely changing my workout regimen and like going from lifting to like being gentle on my body. Yeah, and I feel so much better.

Speaker 1:

Well, and I think that's so huge because I, um, I've been working with a coach that has been helping me, um, to figure out an intuitive routine versus just like you know cause, like when I, at the beginning of the year, I was like, ooh, I'm going to do, I didn't want to do a 75 hard but, I was like I'll create a 75 soft and like, you know, and I'll just create this.

Speaker 1:

And she was like okay, but do you think that's sustainable? And I was like, huh, yeah, no, I normally I'm like I'm going to do this, I'm going to, you know, I'm going to do a whole 30 and I'm going to drink a gallon of water. And I'm going to, you know, like, do, like, I'm going to work out every day, you know, for an hour, and I'm going to do that, like, and I set all these unrealistic expectations and then I burned myself out and then I just quit all of them and instead, this year, one of the big things I really wanted to get in the habit of was meditation, because and I want to do every single day, because I know that that helps me feel better. And so now I'm at 40 days in a row of of um meditating. I didn't say manifesting, and I was like Nope, I mean I am through my meditation, but. But you know, so it's really cool.

Speaker 1:

And so I have this one that's like a high frequency, you know, raises your frequency um meditation, it's literally seven minutes, but every morning I do it and I can tell when I don't do it. I'm like, Ooh, yeah, I need to do that, you know, and so, but I'm not so strict about like it has to be the very first thing I do when I first wake up. You know, I'm like I just need to do it. And now it's become a habit. And then I started, you know, like walking my dogs, and you know, now I've done it like five, like five days a week for two weeks now, and so I'm like, okay, like I'm going to, you know, do that for a couple more weeks, make sure that's still a habit. So like kind of habit stacking and like, okay, what's the next one?

Speaker 1:

And so I love that you said to be gentle, because I think a lot of times, especially as women, we look at social media and no matter how old we are, like I have to remind myself all the time like Sarah, you're 46, like they're 20, relax, they're 20. And of course they can do that like crazy gymnastics routine to be able to do that too. But you can't now, and that's okay. Like again, you're 46. Like, so just let it go.

Speaker 1:

But again, I just think that I was always trying to like I had always been a gymnast or a swimmer and I'd always lifted heavy and I'd always done like all these things that you know. I thought that I had to do that and I love that. You just said that you used to lift heavy and now you're like I'm going to be gentle in my body and you're getting the results that you wanted, and so I think it speaks a lot to, instead of pushing something or doing what you think you have to or what the 20 year old influencer is doing on you know TikTok, instead you're listening to your body, you're doing following intuition and you know you're seeing the results.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, absolutely, cause like when I was in the military, I was a really heavy lifter and I was really strong and I absolutely loved it. I had like great legs, great body. I was super pumped about it. And then, after I had my second kid, I like really didn't feel like I didn't want to do that anymore. I was like I don't want to lift heavy, I don't want to do this, and so I really just like didn't know what to do, cause that's like all I knew how to do was like I did all the beach body works out workouts. I did like the hard ones. I did the 75 hard before I like I did all of that and I didn't want to do it again because I wasn't there anymore. I wasn't trying to be that in my fitness era anymore. I wanted to be gentle with myself and I felt like I can't be hard on my body and gentle on my mind. I don't know why that, just for me, that didn't seem like it was going to work. So I felt like if I'm going to be gentle in my mind, I'm going to be gentle on my body. And I did that and I said I'm going to be.

Speaker 2:

I became a vegetarian at the beginning of this year too, because I realized that meat was making my body really inflamed, and so I listened to my body and I said, okay, my, you know, my partner is a vegetarian and she's been doing this for a very long time and has had great results with it. I am going to try it. And so once I did that, I felt significantly better and I'm like what are we? I'm three months, three and a half months, in now to being a vegetarian, which is something I never thought I would do, and it was a way for me to be more gentle on myself.

Speaker 2:

And I think that, that, like I, I think men listen to um so many, uh, like hard ass people, like they hear all the time that, like you have to like things have to suck in order for you to like get all the time. That, like you have to like things have to suck in order for you to like get to the things that you want in life, or like you have to suffer in order to be happy. And I don't believe that Like, I do believe that, like you can be happy and like be gentle with yourself and gentle with your mind, and like gentle with those around you Because, like, if you don't love yourself and like you're not going to teach other people how to love and you're not going to be approachable and you're not going to be genuine, and so, like, just be kind and like be gentle on yourself and you'll see the results. Because everybody has that like inner child that just wants to be, like feel like they're doing something right.

Speaker 2:

And so when you're like losing a pound or two just from doing yoga and being gentle and you're like I'm going to keep doing that, like I guarantee you I could have lost the same amount of weight the same amount of time, had the same body structure doing I know I wouldn't have the same body structure, but I would be in a different physique than I am now If I. What? If I decided like I am going to go do lifting, but I don't want to do that. Like I didn't want to do that, I don't want to go out and run. If I'm getting like good and positive results with my mind and my body while I'm doing yoga, that's what I'm going to do.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, and I think that's so huge because, again, I think that and I loved your comparison for men and women because I think that you know, especially like anyone kind of in my age group, because I think you're probably significantly younger than me- Not that much younger.

Speaker 1:

But, like we were raised in the hustle culture, like, and you have to, you have to grind, grind, grind, like, or you're nothing's going to happen. And you know, if you ever listened to people like Grant Cardone or you know anyone that kind of sounds like him, it's just like, oh, it's balls to the wall all the time, like there is no rest, like if you're going to be a millionaire, you have to do this and you have to be up at 5am and blah, you know, and it's like whoa, okay. Like you know, and if you subscribe to that and if that works for you, great. I am not going to tell you that. You know that my is the right way.

Speaker 1:

That's fine. If hustle culture works for you, do it For me. I'm done with hustle culture, like I am done trying to force everything. I'm done trying to hustle, hustle, hustle. And now, like you know, if there's a day that I feel like I'm depleted and I want to take a nap, I allow myself to take a nap without the guilt yes, I used to take a nap but then I'd feel guilty Like oh man, if my husband comes home.

Speaker 2:

I'm so lazy.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I'm lazy. And if my husband comes home and he sees that I'm taking a nap, he's going to think I'm lazy. And, you know, my kids are going to think I'm lazy. And now I'm just like nope. You know, if I'm honoring that, I'm then going to be able to give from a full cup instead of an empty cup and I actually have much more. Like I've had so many more downloads and ideas come to me since I've really embraced this living with ease versus hustle culture. Like it's insane to me, like I will never go back to hustle culture.

Speaker 2:

Yeah, and like I was in hustle culture, I feel like for maybe.

Speaker 2:

So I got my certification in December and but like, but I think August, like even before I got my certification like I was getting paid clients but I was getting like maybe one or two.

Speaker 2:

Since I've gotten my certification and decided like to be like gently, like do like this gentle life for myself and like really hone in on, like my skills, I've gotten so much more. I've gotten so many more followers on like social media platforms I've got I feel like I'm so much more genuine with myself and people want somebody and they're going to listen to somebody who's going to be authentic and who's going to like talk to them like they're a human, instead of just saying like what you're doing is wrong right now and you're going to suck regardless. So why don't you just suck a little bit less today and you're going to get better tomorrow? Like I don't want that. I don't want somebody. Like I don't know about you, but me I'm triggered when someone screams at me, so like maybe that makes me soft, but like I don't care, cause I feel like really happy and we're really good with where I am in my life.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, I love that you should be so proud of yourself, because that is like I mean, that's huge Like to know that. I mean I always knew I couldn't go into the military, because I get triggered too when people yell at me and I was like there's no way I would even make it through bootcamp.

Speaker 2:

People. They don't yell at you, they just like, say like silly things and you're just like. I just laugh, like I'm really good at being like, but like, if you like yell at me like you know what I mean. Like David Goggins is like very intimidating man, like I don't think I could handle him yelling at me to do five more push-ups. Like I just don't think I guys like you want me to do five more push-ups. I will, but not if you yell at me like that. Yeah, like I'm not gonna do it now. I totally agree.

Speaker 1:

I totally agree. Um, so if someone listening to this, um, you know, is because I love that, I love that this conversation just kind of organically came, this, you know, is because I love that, I love that this conversation just kind of organically came about and, you know, we were able to really, just, you know, kind of highlight that you're, you know, a real person and you've done the work, so you understand where people are coming from. You know, if someone listening to this is like holy shit, I need Emily in my life, well, how would they like get a hold of you and how would they get to start to work with you? Like what would that look like?

Speaker 2:

So I use my phone a lot, so is it okay if I like give my personal phone number out?

Speaker 1:

You can do whatever you want, and I will always put everything that you say in the show notes, so that way, if someone's listening to this in the car and they're like crap, I can't write that down or I can't remember the number, it's always going to be there. So any way that you want people to reach out to you is perfectly fine.

Speaker 2:

Okay, yeah, so like if you text me and you say like hey, I heard you on this podcast, like we can talk that way, we can connect that way. I also have a Facebook page. If you just type Emily Phillips, like I have, I think I'll probably be like one of many, but it's a meditation picture of me. And then I also have an Instagram page and it's meditate with me, I think. Let me look really quickly.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, it's all good. I know I'm the same way. I'm like I know I have socials, but what are my handles?

Speaker 2:

So my Instagram handle is meditatewithemily, so if you find me on Instagram and you wanna send me a message, like I send out. One of the best things about texting me, though, is that you'll automatically get enrolled in my affirmations, and, like Sarah, you know, my affirmations are great, so I send daily affirmations, every single day, to all my friends and family and clients, and if you don't want them, then that's fine, but you're going to get them if you send me a text message.

Speaker 1:

I love it, honestly, like because we started talking. You know I had met you at Beauty Boost event and you know you were speaking and there was just like I just felt connected to you, just even from your conversation, and I was like, oh, I want to talk to her more and I want to get her on the podcast, and so, like we connected, you know, via email, and then we started texting and then all of a sudden, I got your daily affirmations and holy shit, Like I have told so many people, like they are life changing and they are so spot on, Like everything that you say.

Speaker 1:

I'm like oh, how did she know? I needed to hear that today.

Speaker 2:

That makes me so happy because you're not the and that's the best part, too is like you're not the only person that has told me that, like my son's daycare teacher, I send them to her every morning and like she is like Emily every single day. These hits so spot on and I'm like thank you, and I I write them to my husband, like I write them to my husband every day and I tell him I'm like I feel, like I genuinely feel them, like these are all the ones that like I, I feel and I use and I just want people to feel like the, the feelings that I feel, because I feel so happy and so empowered that I want to like empower others and he, like both of my partners, are just like the best people to like empower, because then we're all going to thrive.

Speaker 1:

Yeah, no, I totally agree, and I think that's so amazing. Um, you know that you have that gift and that you share that gift so easily, you know, with people, and I just think that you know you've obviously stepped into exactly what you were meant to do and I love that journey for you and I love this so much for you.

Speaker 2:

Thank you so much. I really feel like that too.

Speaker 1:

Good yeah, Good Well, thank you so much for taking time out of your day. I know you're super busy with three little ones. You know like a thriving business and everything, but I really appreciate you taking the time to come on here and talk. Like I said, I'll have all of your information in the show notes so that that way anyone listening that wants to work with you can find you and, if nothing else, text her so you get the daily affirmations.

Speaker 2:

Yes, always text. I love texting people on those affirmations.

Speaker 1:

Yes, I love it. I love it. Well. Thanks so much for tuning in to this week's episode. Please make sure that you are leaving a review. Five-star review is obviously very much appreciated, but that review is feedback, and feedback is a gift. Please make sure you're sharing this with others, because that is the greatest compliment that you can give Emily and myself, and also make sure you are following the show so you never miss another episode. Thanks so much and we'll see you next time on Thrive and Decide.