Maximalist Life

Ep 36 - Beyond Vanilla: Finding Your Sexual Sweet Spot

Brianna Gamble & Tamika Stringfellow

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Episode Summary:

Brianna and Tamika are back with another spicy, unfiltered episode — and this time we’re going there. We’re talking sex, power dynamics, and how to actually get what you want in the bedroom without making it awkward 😏

✨ Setting the vibe before things get hot (yes, boundaries are sexy)
🫦 Let’s talk choking — the right way vs. the “uhh please don’t crush my windpipe” way
🙃 Breaking down the myths about what women actually want
🗣️ How to say what you like without dying of embarrassment
🧓🏼👶🏼 Dating older or younger — and how it shifts the dynamic
🕯️ Setting the mood with music, lighting, and scents (it does matter)
💃🏾 Figuring out where you fall on the dominance/submission spectrum
🤝 Why trust is the real MVP when you’re exploring new things
🎥 Using photos, videos, and references to get on the same page
🫂 The importance of aftercare when things get a little intense

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Speaker 1

You're right .

Speaker 2

Welcome to Maximilist Life . She's Brianna , I'm Tamika .

Speaker 1

Yeah , we are . Yeah , we are what she said . Yeah , here we are . So yeah you got any updates life updates .

Speaker 1

I don't know what made me think of this . Maybe because we're doing this spicy episode , okay , but I was gonna tell you this silly story . So , um , you know , when I took my son and his friends for his birthday to that virtual reality place , and you know they're just like fucking around and stuff , like we went to lunch , did all the stuff and they're 12 , 13 year old boys . So they're walking behind me . You know they can't walk next to me because that's so embarrassing , of course . So I'm like walking . We're walking to me . You know they can't walk next to me because that's so embarrassing , of course . So I'm like walking . We're walking to the car and Bentley doesn't want to walk next to me . So they're kind of like a little behind . But I can hear everything that they're saying and they think that I can't hear them . So they're just talking a bunch of bullshit . And then they each like here and there throughout the day , they keep saying don't drop the soap , and I'm like what the fuck ? I keep saying that . Yeah , they keep saying it to each other . They think it's so funny . And so finally , as we're walking back to the car , I hear Bentley say that and I turn around .

Speaker 1

I said do you know what that means ? And he's like , uh no . And I was like , why do you say that ? And he was like I don't know . Someone on YouTube said it . We thought it was so funny . And I said that means when you're in prison , they don't want you to drop the soap in the shower because if you bend over , another guy's gonna stick his penis in your butthole . And him and his friends were like and he looked at me like mom , what the fuck ? And I was like , yeah , that's what it means . So when you guys are telling each other that you're saying , hey , don't get a , don't get a penis in your butthole , that's what you're saying to each other when you say that in the wild like that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I said so . Don't ever fucking say that again . Yeah , what ? And they would not believe . I just said that and I just turned around and kept drinking my coffee and walking back to the car . Yeah , that's your education for the day . That was your learning moment . So prison slang from the 13 year old white kid okay , good story you know , it's really weird having a teenager so weird just weird shit in a boy too .

Speaker 2

I know at that well you saw mine the other day . He is literally standing next to me . He has his hand in my pocket he is so cute he is so attached to me , just like a little baby I wish that my son was more attached to me .

Speaker 1

God he used to be , that's how my son used to be , and now he's not .

Speaker 2

And I'm hoping he'll come back . He stays in his room and plays video games .

Speaker 1

Yeah , mm-hmm , oh Brit Mm-hmm . Yeah , so does Bentley .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so it's . So I mean , it is what it is .

Speaker 1

You know , does your son ever listen to our podcast ?

Speaker 2

He can't . The kids have a hard time listening because I say too many sexual things about . Drew oh , yeah , yeah , yeah yeah so I mean he edits it for us Rice .

Speaker 1

Rice , yeah , rice Rice .

Speaker 2

Rice is rice , right , I don't know how to say rice , rice , rice Tami , I will listen to it . Sometimes she had to skip one episode , like if it's too spicy and too much about drew , she can't really . If I'm generalizing sexual experiences or just saying things , she's okay with it . But anytime it's like oh me and drew , oh me and drew . Where she does feel like it's healthy , that like super healthy , that her parents like have sex and it's like are excited about it and all that stuff .

Speaker 2

But yeah , probably you shouldn't have to hear about your parents having sex no , they're thinking about to me and I though we're only 16 years apart right , so like by the time I'm dying , that bitch might die before me . You know I'm 86 , she's 70 , that bitch might go before me .

Speaker 2

You know , I'm saying or whatever so like we're really like close in age . But I mean I never treated her like that when we were younger . I was still like always her mom . I know a lot that happens a lot where , like teenage pregnancies , the mom and the daughter become like best friends and there's like all these lines from like a young age . Yeah , lines that get crossed or whatever , but no , I'm all . I was always like don't fuck around , and still now I I'm like .

Speaker 2

I'm still coming , I'm still your mom . Yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . So like sometimes when we've gone on trips , it's like okay , we're just two ladies , you have to set the tone when we went to Vegas for her 21st birthday . I was like we're just two ladies , and then that bitch started spilling the beans on everything .

Speaker 2

She got so fucked up and she was like , yeah , when I used to smoke all this weed in high school and all that , and like I would never get mad at her , even if she told me when we weren't just two ladies and we were mommy daughter , but and then she didn't remember because she was so drunk at the pool party , yeah , and I was like you know , you told us all these things and she was like I told you that . I was like , yes , drunkard , oh god , yeah , so well , that's fun yeah , yeah yeah .

Speaker 1

So , um , for this episode we wanted to do something spicy . Yeah , we couldn't it's hard to like also just come up with like one specific spicy topic and they kind of all like start blending into each other , and so we wanted so we put into chat gpt to give us some spicy ideas , yeah , and so some of these are hilarious . I'm just gonna say the ideas and then we could just talk about it , yeah yeah yeah , yeah . Um , my favorite one . It said pretty girls get pounded too yeah , we do damn chat , gbt , you really know what's up .

Speaker 2

Yeah , he's hardcore , yeah I think that , like I mean , this goes back to everything we always say like they want us to be , like these gentle creatures soft and submissive . But it's weird because the guys want to pound it , so what ? They don't expect us to want that too , mm-mm .

Speaker 1

They just want to choke you to death .

Speaker 2

And then they expect us , on the reverse side , to say that we only want to make love , aww , make love missionary style .

Speaker 1

Is that how you sound when you're saying aww , that's what I do , aww , I , that's what I do . Oh , I love this , can you imagine the guy's looking at you confused . That's why he's choking me . Shut the fuck up , bitch , stop making that noise mute . Yeah , he's pressing the remote mute now can we talk about .

Speaker 2

There's an art to choking too .

Speaker 1

Okay , yes .

Speaker 2

So Can you tell your story about our ? She always gets upset because I remember every story . Our golden retriever boy .

Speaker 1

Oh God . Which you might have told this story .

Speaker 2

I may have Everything blends together at this point . We've done so many episodes , who knows what , but like everyone skips around , so whatever yeah , I don't think everyone listens to every episode . Well , some people do some people from the beginning . But I remember I told you so when , uh , I just talked to they're like , oh , I listened to episode in your pocket , so , like when they're just joining , I think they just pick random , they don't . Yeah , yeah , you just read the titles . Yeah , that sounds good .

Speaker 1

Yeah , okay , um yeah , two years ago I I for a little . I had like a little summer fling basically with this 28 year old , which at the time I thought 28 was so young , which is funny because at the time I was 35 , now I'm 37 and been fucking around with this 25 year old for a while . Yeah , which will come , we'll circle back but , anyway , oh my god , he is the most golden retriever boy he's super hot right god , he's so hot and he had a nice body , so tall , right cute like a horse dick yeah , I mean shit .

Speaker 2

I actually know I don't want to fuck a horse .

Speaker 1

I didn't either . But the thing is he's so gentle , too gentle , too gentle with everything , only wants to have sex missionary , only just wants like look into my eyes deeply the whole time , yeah , and tell me . I'm just so beautiful the whole time he's like caressing your face yeah , like come on and then .

Speaker 1

So after a few times of sleeping with him I was like all right , like maybe just spice it up a little , you know , because like even during sex , like I would try to kind of like spice it up or do something , and it's's like he wasn't having it .

Speaker 2

Okay , so tell me , like what kind of attempts would you make ?

Speaker 1

Like I would even just want to try to do a different position , like I'm like , oh , let me , let me just like let me turn over , or let me just like let's just do doggy style or let me , yeah , get on , and he just it .

Speaker 1

He would say no , he would . It's like he wouldn't at first like say like , he would just like like you could tell he kind of was like all right , and then he would just be like I like you to do this , and then just kind of like want to go back to missionary . I'm like every time we have to just do this , you just have to like stroke my hair and stuff . Once I admire you . I know it's just too much . It was just I was like I mean , this is so nice , but I can't just do this every time , yeah . And so one time I was like I'm gonna have , let's have a conversation before we get in bed . So like I tried to bring it up and be like yeah , I just want to like spice it up a little . And he's just like what do you mean like ? What do you mean spice up ? Like you don't like what we're doing ? And I was just like no , I love it no , I don't know .

Speaker 2

I love it . See how you have to be such like .

Speaker 1

Why can't just be like yeah , I like it , but I want to do other things , mm-hmm oh , then I was just like yeah , you know , maybe you could just like be , we try a different position , or maybe you could just like choke me a little bit , or something , and and he was just like what Just shocked . I'm like , it's just like a little , just like a little joke , like nothing crazy . Just put your hand around my neck , don't fucking kill me yeah yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

And he was just like couldn't believe it . He was just like I really don't want to do that . I'm like no , I really don't want to do . Like he was scared , almost like he was going to cry . I was like Jesus Christ . So then I'm like let's just try . So then we're in the middle of having our missionary sex and I grab his wrist and like try to like bring his hand up to my neck . So I didn't have to say like I was just like trying to guide him and he was just like it's like he was almost grimacing . And he was just like it's like he was almost grimacing , like he was just like , oh , I don't want to do this . And so I'm like just just do it so soft . You just do it so soft , just put your hand around me , just hold it also because he has huge hands . I mean , he's so tall and just every and just hold it .

Speaker 2

You can just hold it , it's fine . It's just like holding my arm or something he wouldn't even touch my neck .

Speaker 1

He had his hand hovering over , like in the choking position , but it was like an inch or two over my neck , so he wasn't touching me at all . Surprise his dick getting soft oh my god , I was like what do you ? Just touch it ?

Speaker 1

and I'm like trying to push my neck towards his hand , like come on , come on , and he's like pulling away too yeah , he didn't want to do it he didn't and I was just like , oh , forget it , just fucking forget it like fine , just cross my hair and tell me a beautiful , fine Jesus Christ yeah so you know , sometimes I just really need you to just go for it yeah . I just sometimes you just need a good pounding yeah , sometimes .

Speaker 2

I mean , I think that , even though it hurts sometimes , yep , the experience is good . Yeah , yeah , like I think that's . Though it hurts sometimes , yep , the experience is good . Yeah , yeah , like I think that's . The thing too is like for my husband probably , if he , he'll be like . It seemed like it was hurting you or something .

Speaker 1

It was .

Speaker 2

Yeah , it was , but I liked it . It's okay that it was hurting . You're not like making me bleed . Yeah , you're not like cutting me or bruising me , but like , yeah , I hurt a little bit , but I liked it .

Speaker 1

And it's a short experience . It's short , it's not like the whole an hour .

Speaker 2

You're just two handed choking me Jesus yeah or just like pounding into me so hard that it hurts back there , like if that was the case , I'd be like , oh , let's switch it up , but I like that . It was hurting , you know I like that it was getting back there or whatever you know .

Speaker 1

So sometimes yeah , sometimes with the choking , it could be too much , but we don't really do the choking .

Speaker 2

Drew is like that golden retriever too . Drew's not really into it . I mean , same reason he won't do me in the butt . He's like I don't think you're going to really like these things . I think I'm probably a little scared too . Drew , same thing Big old hands . He's a big guy .

Speaker 1

It's hard because they don't really know how much is too much , because you have to do the sides right . They say it's the sides you can't be pushing down with your palm .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so it's like your middle finger and your thumb are really doing the job of the choking . Right , that's what I've seen , or whatever , or heard , or whatever . Yeah , you can't really actually make me like pass out , or are you ? You ? Maybe some people like that .

Speaker 1

Not me , though .

Speaker 2

I don't really want to do that yeah , where you actually pass out like they know , yeah , that's too much that's a little weird asphyxiation please don't , because then what if you accidentally kill me ?

Speaker 1

yeah yeah , you're gonna be in trouble you're gonna be in a lot of trouble , mister yeah , yeah , yeah , and not by me , because I'll be dead .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so not really into that , but so do you feel like there are a lot of people , the partners that you have sex with , a lot of them are into the choking or not really ?

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Yeah , they bring it into it , or you A lot of times they just do it .

Speaker 1

They just do it . They don't even say . Lot of times they just do it , they just don't even say yeah , like they just do it . But also I will like if something , like if anything is happening during sex , I really don't like it , or if it's like hurting me too much , like I'll just say , or I'll just like . This happened this weekend actually I had a little choking , too hard choking oh , and I just grab it . I just grab his wrist so hard and he's just like fuck , sorry , like was it too much ?

Speaker 2

yeah . That doesn't say is there a conversation in the moment like do you , yeah , does he go like , like you're saying , is it too much ? Yes , do you actually go like , yeah , that was too much .

Speaker 1

That's too much , yeah , that's too much . Yeah , also because sometimes what guys do that ? Also sorry , there's like some little kids just like I don't know if you guys can hear it , but outside of our window , yeah , uh , he , he hear it . He hears us talking about sex . He thought it was hilarious .

Speaker 1

Yeah , um , yeah , I mean this particular guy specifically like , if anything , like he'll kind of check in throughout just hearing it it's like like he'll just be like it's okay , or if it's like yeah , or like , or like he'll just say , like a little quick thing like that . And um , yeah , he felt so bad when I was like it's hurting , because sometimes what happens too is like , because you know they're on top and so they have to , like , hold up their whole body weight anyway , and then now they're only on one hand because they're using the other hand , and so sometimes they're putting pressure on , like their uh , I don't know how to .

Speaker 1

It's almost like their wrist of the palm of their hand palm , yeah , it's like on your chest , yeah , and that hurts putting their weight down .

Speaker 2

Yeah , that hurts , yeah , and I go , jesus you're like gonna bring , gonna break my like windpipe or whatever yeah , right , yeah , yeah , yeah .

Speaker 1

So that part I don't like that yeah , I wouldn't like that either .

Speaker 1

I don't think so I don't know , but I do think like it is interesting , like I don't know , I do think most guys they're into it . I'm general , I hate , yeah , I generalize a lot , but yeah , I think you think a lot of guys enjoy very submissive girls , at least in bed maybe not in life , but like in bed . They want you to be really submissive . Yeah , I think so , and they want to just be so dominant and they just want to like do whatever they want and they want you to love it too , not just take it but love it yeah , I do .

Speaker 2

Well , I mean , this goes back to how like sex was has been programmed all these years , like that's what it's supposed to be .

Speaker 2

Yeah , you know , and obviously we hear about these Dom's , and I think that that's why it sounds so exciting , like where we're the ones in charge mm-hmm and then we say all these things and we do all these things , which I mean it's so hard to have that in a partner where I think I could like say any of that stuff to drew . That's not in my personality to be , uh like dominant in the bedroom with us anyways I don't really want that you know yeah I he . I think he would do it if I wanted to like yeah , like yeah , you can . I mean , I don't even know what that would look like I know I was like I .

Speaker 2

I keep wanting to like I'm just telling you what to do , like I mean , I'm gonna tell you , lick my feet . What's gonna happen ? Like how is it that ? When I'm thinking about how Drew is dominant in the bedroom , how would that then go to me ? How ?

Speaker 1

would that ?

Speaker 2

transfer to me , and how ? What would that look like for me ?

Speaker 1

yeah , and .

Speaker 2

I can't really imagine it which is why , like I don't think that I would be into it so much , because for me also part of being like submissive to Drew is that I want , like this really masculine man and that type in life and everything . So for me to be so dominant , I think , would I emasculate him yeah , and so like I don't really want a little bitch boy , like that's not my style like it wouldn't turn you on to be right , right , yeah .

Speaker 1

So it's like there are times , so I think I know what does that look like for you . I think about it too , where I'm like what would I even say ? Or what am I doing ?

Speaker 2

what are we doing like I don't want to do like degree . It's not like when Drew is dominant , I get on me like or whatever . He's not like degrading me , it's more just like hop up , come on , you know like we're changing positions . Yeah , like he always does a little tap on my booty , you know if I'm on top , like okay , we're gonna move into this way .

Speaker 1

You know , yeah , like they're like you can be the one , like you are the one . Okay , so we're like saying like this is a position , this , or like you're gonna do this or you're gonna like I kind of want to try or like maybe I'm choking you , I don't know . Yeah , I don't want , I have done that my hands barely will go around his neck I did that one time .

Speaker 2

You know my hands always hurt , I go , I can't do it .

Speaker 1

My hands hurt I can't do it , my carpal hurt . I can't do it , my carpal tunnel yeah .

Speaker 2

I can't do it , I know . Okay , you did it one time . Tell me .

Speaker 1

Tell me , I did it one time with my ex-husband you choked him , yeah , and it was like Okay , what position were ? You in , Like I was on top . So's like a lot at least I've experienced , and the guy still doesn't even want to let you do your thing on top . It's like he's almost like hover and then he's just fucking you from under , yeah , and I'm like , can I , can I do something ? So I just want to be like you're gonna fucking lay there and take it .

Speaker 2

I'm I'm going to use you as my sex doll .

Speaker 1

Yeah , like maybe I'll tie your hands and your fucking legs down . You can't even move .

Speaker 2

So that is something that Drew and I have done , where I've tied him down . I mean , here's the thing . This is really weird to think about . But like we did that , like in high school oh my God , he had like one of those bad gold like brass , like beds , like a four post bed , and so I tied him up his hand so he couldn't touch me , which I think that's kind of sexy , you know where they just can't touch you and you're just like doing whatever to them .

Speaker 2

But still , for me it was still very feminine doing it , that way you know and so I guess the hard part is getting it out of my head that just because you're dominant doesn't mean you can , you don't have like , you can't be feminine with it too it doesn't mean that you have to like , wear this mask and have this , these whips and stuff . It just means you take control of what you want in the bedroom right yeah , which is kind of I don't know drew does what I want , so it's like hard for me , you really have to , yeah yeah , but I can see that I mean .

Speaker 2

So one of the things where I feel like I am and I do these things is like all like the scratching and like all that with their back and stuff . And the funny thing is I asked Drew like do you notice that I'm doing that ? And he goes no , I can't even feel that you're doing any of that stuff interesting and I go , really I go , do you see your back when we're done ?

Speaker 2

and he never looked and I show him the other day and he's like you fucked my whole backup . He has really sensitive skin too . And he was like I didn't feel any of that . I'm going to do it harder now , yeah .

Speaker 1

I'm going to make you bleed , yeah . See if you feel it then , yeah , you know one way that I like to . In my head , this is me like reclaiming my power Before it even happens . Okay , happens , if it's a new guy , I go , I'm gonna tell you I like to stay up front , I'm gonna tell you the things I don't like . Oh , and they go because they love to go . Like , what do you like to do ?

Speaker 2

no , let me tell you what I don't like . I'm gonna tell you what I don't like and what we're not gonna do so tell , tell me some stuff that you don't like I go first things first .

Speaker 1

I'm not calling you daddy , okay , don't ask me that . It's fucking gross to me yeah , you don't that's my main thing . I hate that . And then I go I'll do a little bit of like light , like the light , choking the light , but don't , okay . You want to spank me ? You want ? Okay , fine , but like I'm not really into any of that , I don't want any impact play . You're not punching me in the face , that's for sure .

Speaker 2

Oh my god is that on the table for some people ?

Speaker 1

yeah , I mean yeah .

Speaker 2

I'm yeah , I'm slapping the spanking too , like I like it . But I mean , sometimes I read some of these books which I think like that is some of the stuff that's actually happening in the world too , where it's like so hard , where handprints are getting left , and like I think that would be shocking to me if you did that because I think for us , because that's not really in our , like you know , on the menu for us , like that's hitting me right .

Speaker 2

I don't like especially if you don't ask me , like if I was just out there dating and you're just slapping the shit out of me on my ass like that's too much . A light spank is fine a light but like I don't want a fucking red mark like where you hit , like it's just not me .

Speaker 1

Although it makes me angry .

Speaker 2

I think about that scene in Fifty Shades of Grey , that one where he like gets the belt and he hits her ten times . And she's like show me the worst of it . You know , I think about that like , where he's like hurting her and she's like I don't understand why you want to do this to me , and she's like I don't understand why you want to do this to me .

Speaker 2

I mean , that's really extreme , because he spanked her with a belt , but I'm sure people are getting spanked with a belt . Oh , yeah , yeah , yeah , yeah . I don't want any of that .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so I tell him I'm not calling you daddy , I'm not doing any of that bullshit either , don't leave any marks on me .

Speaker 2

I .

Speaker 1

Don't bite me or do something so hard that it's going to leave a mark . Don't bruise me in any way . I also say , like I'm not your cum , better not touch my face or my hair .

Speaker 2

Yeah , no .

Speaker 1

Don't you're not coming on my face .

Speaker 2

I like the bruises .

Speaker 1

I don't like it .

Speaker 2

Because here's the thing too , because I I mean I think you are the same a little bit . I mean I think you are the same Like I'll bruise easily where it doesn't hurt .

Speaker 1

So easily .

Speaker 2

Yeah , and so I kind of like it the next day when I just see a little bruise , maybe because also that's my partner .

Speaker 1

But like it doesn't hurt . The next day I might be with a different guy .

Speaker 2

It doesn't actually hurt me . Sometimes it's just like there because he grabbed my leg hard and just like that's it bruising a little bit as long as it doesn't hurt which is weird . I just like Drew's mark on me a little bit , you know okay .

Speaker 1

It's weird too , because it depends on who . It is like I don't know . Okay , so it's like I don't want to be , I don't want any marks on me , like if I know I'm gonna see Mr Monday .

Speaker 2

I don't .

Speaker 1

I don't really want to have any marks on me . Yeah , I've seen him , but then at the in another way , like if it's like a new person and I don't . I'm like I don't really want to have any marks on me . Yeah , I've seen him , but then at the in another way , like if it's like a new person and I don't . I'm like I don't care if you know that I had sex with somebody else like .

Speaker 1

I don't know , but I just in general , I don't really want to have any like remnants of what happened later . Yeah , um , those are the main . Those are like my main things that I just tell them up front . These are things I don't really like , so those are easy , don't fuck , and yeah , and it seems like , oh , these are just like so simple things , but a lot of times those are do you have guys that push back on any of the things .

Speaker 2

Okay , there's never anyone that says like , have you tried to do this ? Okay ?

Speaker 1

and I think , maybe because the way I say it , I go , I'm telling you right now , these are things I'm not doing and they're like all right , yeah , this is a hard no for me , yeah , yeah yeah , and they're just like I'm okay yeah , I'm not gonna go into it yeah , and then do you have any guys that uh have anything for you that they won't do as

Speaker 1

you not a lot , because I always ask them after like okay , well , what are your ? Hard no's and then they don't usually have like you haven't heard anything , not really . They're just kind of like like usually I ask them that and they kind of laugh and they go I don't know , no one ever asked me that like I'm like no one ever asked you like what your limits are or , and they're just kind of like I don't know which kind of is interesting to me , because it makes me feel like women just expect like well , if it has to do with sex , guys will be into it , you know or like uh yeah , like I'm not supposed to ask that kind of question , that's not my place to ask whatever they want , I'll just do it .

Speaker 2

Uh-huh too right , yeah . So I just ask like what do you ?

Speaker 1

and then if they say nothing , if they're just like , and I go nothing , nothing is off . I can pick you yeah , then I say some crazy shit and I'll be like , okay , so I could put my dildo in your ass , and I'm like whoa , and I'm just like kidding with them .

Speaker 2

But I'm just like yeah , see , you do have something . Yeah , you do have stuff .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's just a joke you have limits too , yeah , and then I think that I feel like they appreciate that I ask that or I bring it up , and then I think it makes it even more like they respect my limits more , because they know I'm like respectful of theirs if they had any . But , um , yeah , I don't know .

Speaker 1

Guys are just fucking weird yeah , of course sometimes I just want to do weird stuff and I'm like , okay , I don't know , I don't know . But yeah , I do think that , yeah , you could be . You could be soft but also dominant yeah , I think so , I think so um , okay , also on this list . It said uh , sensual selfishness . What happens when you stop having duty sex ?

Speaker 2

yeah , I , you know doing it out of guilt , or to keep the peace , or yeah , I think that that's a tough one because that says something about the relationship or the marriage that you're in and why you're doing it yeah , um . Because to me that implies that you don't want to do it . And so for sure . Why don't you want to do it ?

Speaker 1

Yeah , and is it just something that's like OK , maybe , like you are , you only have enough energy to have sex twice a week , but your husband wants to have it every single day , and so you're like , that's why , where it's like , oh , I just like I'm so tired I can't't be doing this every single day , and so maybe it's not that like you don't not want to have sex with them .

Speaker 1

It's not that you I don't know if I said that right , it's not that you don't want to , yeah , it's just I can't be doing it that often well , I mean , I think I've said this before we're all .

Speaker 2

I will tell you like should we have sex every day ? Or like we should whatever . And then he'll be like it's too much pressure to have sex every day , like one of us is going to get tired , you don't want to do anything out of obligation , like yeah , he was like if it happens it's fine , but like he's like every other day is probably a better expectation for us . Yeah , like when we've talked about it , and I was like okay , yeah , he was like it's okay if it happens every day .

Speaker 2

Though , but , let's not like like that's like you know where we have to start , right , I think that is what it is too . Is like this duty sex . It's like when you put pressure on it like that , like okay , we have to do it four times a day , and then like I mean four times a week or whatever , and then you come A day shit .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you like come to the point where you've done it three and then , like you , only have one more day and then you're like fuck , we have to have sex tonight .

Speaker 2

You know like it's not , yeah , it's not like enjoyable , no , you're just doing it and you're not into it . But then I also feel like it's like I think you need to have serious conversations with your partner at that point if you're having duty sex like there's a problem yeah , for sure .

Speaker 1

Yeah , bad bitch in the streets .

Speaker 2

Pillow princess in the sheets you know , I really like this . I really like this because it's usually like freaking the sheets , you know yeah I think there are so many times where , yeah , I just want to lay there and like , not so many times . But I think , because I don't really do this anymore , we don't really just have missionary sex anymore , like I could see , maybe , when you are having duty sex , how it's easy to be like , oh my God , he wants to have sex tonight . I'm kind of tired .

Speaker 2

All right , let's do a missionary and then like you know , easy . Um Drew's calling me , I think , to come in here .

Speaker 1

Hello , hello .

Speaker 2

Hello , what are you wearing , Drew ? I'm in the middle of my podcast . You can come in the back door . I'm wearing my ranch outfit . Okay , bye . I thought he was here . He was sparked after or something . He called me and said what are you wearing ? What am I wearing ?

Speaker 1

Get the fuck out of here , oh my god interrupted by that's hilarious okay well , who is ? That bitch in the streets . Pillow princess in the sheets oh yeah .

Speaker 2

so then when you're having this duty sex , you're like okay , like , yeah , I could just uh , you know lay down on the bed and you just do everything to me , which , yeah , sometimes when you're tired , like just like , eat my pussy and then get on top of me . And then we get off and it's like still a good night of sex yeah .

Speaker 1

But I can't be doing a lot of stuff .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I'm too tired when you're saying like oh you know , sometimes they just want to like take control when you're on top .

Speaker 1

And I'm like , yeah , but sometimes I'm like please go for it , please move my body , because the boys I think that's the thing too they literally move your body for you too , yeah like you're a little puppet .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I need some help . Help me . Yeah , who was it ? Someone was telling me I can't remember what they were like , I can't be moving like that . And I was like you're not moving where you're having sex or whatever .

Speaker 2

They're like no , they need to do all the work and I was like , I mean , I get it just like they . You know you want to be like a passenger princess . You know , yeah , you want them to drive and do all these things . And then you know I'm like , yeah , sometimes I just want you to do everything , just fucking throw me around oh , the throwing around is really something I know .

Speaker 1

I really do enjoy that , me too , and I used to be so self-conscious , you know , I've always been like a bigger girl , like I've always been a little chunky monkey , and so I , you know , you get kind of self-conscious and then like , if your boyfriend or something tries to pick you up , especially if you're in high school , and you're like no , no , no , no , and you just feel I don't know , you're just kind of like meh , and so I feel like now I'm just like , yeah , pick me up . If you can't pick me up , then you're a little bitch . I'm not fat , you're a little bitch .

Speaker 2

I think that's the case for me too is because I just really like when Drew throws me around the bedroom like I'm , I'm , like this is pretty good .

Speaker 1

You know my , uh , my little boyfriend . I keep calling him my little boyfriend . He's not little , he's almost six feet tall , but he's 25 years old , so that's why I call him my little boyfriend , young boyfriend . My young man . No , not the young man .

Speaker 2

Ew , that's so gross , that's so gross .

Speaker 1

Uh , oh God , he wants to pick me up all the time . Good , he just wants to pick me up all the time he likes it . You know , here's the thing . He's like a little bit too romantic , ugh , which sucks , okay . And this is like it's a me problem . It's a me problem for sure , because he is just so fucking nice to me shit for me and like brings me dinner .

Speaker 1

And then he came over the other night and then he's just like he couldn't come , like around dinner time , and so he was gonna come later . He felt so bad and I was like I don't give a fuck . Like what do you mean ? Like I just thought also , like you're coming over , we're gonna having , like we're having sex , you're staying the night so we can have more sex . But he's just like once I have a date night , and so then he's like he calls me . He's like I'm at the store right now . What kind of Ben and Jerry's ice cream do you like ? I'm gonna bring it . I was like , oh my god , he's like I was just thinking like we could eat ice cream , we could watch a movie , and he's just so sweet . And then every time he wants to like pick me up and like make out with me and do all this stuff , and you know , then I like it , but then sometimes I go .

Speaker 2

That's too much yeah , I think the problem with you and I'm like this too is like sometimes I need you to be mean to me .

Speaker 1

Oh , he would never .

Speaker 2

Like not really mean to me , but I just I don't know , maybe it's in our like psychological like whatever , yeah , that like we just can't have like these nice men all the time .

Speaker 2

Not all the time but like I , just because it seems unrealistic . I think that's the point . It's like because I can never like be that person too , like I can't just be so nice to you all the time , cater to you and like all these things like that's not in my personality , so you need to also just be real to me too . There's sometimes when you can't be on . I mean , easy for this guy right now he could be on because you don't see him that often .

Speaker 1

No , no , so the times he is on , like but I'm like you could be on for like 12 fucking hours . I can't do that Well , and I always think that it I'm like are you love bombing me the love bomb is a real thing .

Speaker 1

It is a real thing . I think at this point I know he's not . I think in the beginning it was easier to think that now he's not , because you know the other thing he does now , which now is I was trying to . I this is bad , but you know you try to find these things . You go what kind of things do I not like about you ? There has to be something . There has to be something .

Speaker 1

And then now I realize he's a mansplainer . He mansplains a lot of stuff to me and I go listen , I'm 12 years older than you . I have a lot more life experience . I already had tits and my period before you were born , right , okay , so I don't need you to explain this stuff to me or tell me what I need to do to go like put you know , air in my tire or do . He tells me all these things and he wants to like and it's just .

Speaker 1

He's like nice , but also we'll be talking , and he's talking about something that's not that crazy like I'm trying to think of , because we were talking about his work . Anyway , he talks about something and he kind of gets like in the weeds about it and he's like going , going , going , and then he stops himself because he realizes he's like going too deep into something . But again , it's not something , it's not over my head . But he goes oh , I'm just , this is getting too technical . Or like he , like he , he says it in a way that's like oh , this is above you , sorry that I , sorry that I went so into it like , this is not a conversation so my first question , and thinking about this and why he's doing this , does he typically date younger girls ?

Speaker 2

I don't , I don't know , okay , because I'm just thinking like if you're 23 , you probably don't want to listen to that , so then is he and he seems really smart and really mature for a 25 year old when he's talking to like these young girls and then he realizes like oh , it's like over their head , like they don't really want to listen to .

Speaker 2

Then he's like okay , sorry , I didn't mean to do that . Also , he has to over explain , because those bitches don't know anything about like the things that are saying , but because you're older and like you know , he does it and then he doesn't realize . So that's what I was wondering does he ? Usually date older women , or does he usually date younger women ?

Speaker 1

you know , I don't really know . It's like we have talked about the girls that he dates , but we never talked about how old they are . I don't know . I want to , I would like I think that they're younger , just based off of like it just sounds like it like the stuff that they're doing and they're hanging out , and I'm like , okay , yeah , maybe they are in their 20s , at least for sure .

Speaker 1

But yeah , so that kind of bothers me where I go . Yeah , I don't really need you to tell me all this stuff . Or like I'm telling , like he wants me to talk about work , so I'm telling him about work stuff too . And then it's like I'm just telling you , so we have this conversation , but it's like he wants to quote like fix whatever problem . I'm telling and I'm like I don't need you to fix it , there's nothing to fix . I'm just we're just having a conversation about it . I'm just telling you or I'm like venting to you or whatever . But yeah , I already know how .

Speaker 1

I already know how to run my business thanks , right , it is like well and I , but I think it's partly like I hate when people think I'm an idiot . I hate when people think I'm dumb , especially guys , when guys think I'm dumb , it's like one of those things that , like it really makes me angry . Yeah , it's like something . It's like I need to . It's like it's one of those things where I go . I need to work on that , why . Why is it angering me so much ? Who cares , like who cares .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

But it just pisses me off . It's like so anytime someone talks to me or they're like a little bit condescending .

Speaker 2

Well , it's so rude to be condescending .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , and I mean the thing with him , though it's like I could tell he is not um , it's like he . I don't think he realizes , like I don't think he realizes what he's that's what I'm saying .

Speaker 2

That's what I'm saying , like I think , because he may deal with younger girls that this is the reason why he does these things .

Speaker 1

Yeah he's I mean , he's just so fucking nice , though , but I feel like the more comfortable I am getting with him and the more time I spend with him , I feel like this time I was a little bit more like dominant with him .

Speaker 2

A little .

Speaker 1

Okay , or just like , because then , like , we had this whole long . Here's the thing too If we're having this whole long sex session , okay , and it's just lasting like two hours , then no , we're probably not going to have sex again tonight , okay . So we have this whole drawn out thing or whatever , and then we go downstairs and then we're just like eating ice cream and like he was like smoking weed , and we're just like hanging out and it's like fun , whatever . And he's mansplaining everything to me and I'm rolling my eyes . You know the whole deal . So then we go back to me and I'm rolling my eyes . You know the whole deal .

Speaker 1

So then we go back to bed and then he like wants to have sex again and I'm like listen , I'm old , my hips can't be . I got to stretch a little bit first and then , so because he wanted to do that , then he , yeah , he . So he starts like going down on me and then he , after maybe I don't know how long I think it was a's a good while , I mean it's probably like 10 minutes I was like pretty good for like a second session of the night and then he wants to come out . I said stay , and I just like push his head down . I was like no , like I'm not ready to do anything else at this moment .

Speaker 1

I need you to double the time here yeah , sorry you need to double down on this if you want me to do anything else .

Speaker 1

Yeah , if you want me to like be on and I never do that , like I never yeah , so you were comfortable yeah , and then I was just like go for it , you could just stay there . But I was like , oh , that was kind of nice to just tell him and I think then he kind of was into it like oh , because I think sometimes guys like when you tell them not that you have to be like so dominant about it or like bossy , but they want to know what you want yeah , so you made it seem like not , that it wasn't the truth , like oh , I really like what you're doing .

Speaker 1

Keep doing that , I'm really into it yeah , because if they stop doing it , you're just like okay , yeah , then it kind of seems like did you even like what was happening ?

Speaker 2

right right right , right right right , yeah right so that's , but really you're just moving on .

Speaker 1

Because they're moving on , yeah , you're just going along with it and so they're just like oh okay , I guess you don't really give a fuck , yeah , yeah , so I do . I do feel like I want to have uh , so it could be with him or it could be with mr monday , I think you know mr monday is so I feel like sometimes we're too silly , like I feel like with him I might start laughing .

Speaker 1

They're so comfortable yeah , like if feel like with him I might start laughing Because they're so comfortable . Yeah , like if I try to say something I might start laughing . I don't know that he . He could probably keep his composure , though , and be like shut the fuck up , like stop laughing . Anyway , I forget what I was saying about that . Oh yeah , I want to do my little pretend Dom moment .

Speaker 1

Yeah , I think I'm going to bring it up . He just got back from Vegas . He said somebody flew him out so I need the deets . Yeah , what that was about . I said have you met this person before ? And he was like yeah , so I need to know what happened . Yeah , so anyway , I'll let you know . I think I'm going to bring it up .

Speaker 2

You can't tell me how it's going to go . I'm going to bring it up .

Speaker 1

You can't tell me how it's going to go .

Speaker 2

I'm going to be like I want to try this . Yeah , I want to hear how the conversation goes and how the session goes .

Speaker 1

I think he'll be so into it Like he likes . I think that he enjoys me like he really likes me to be comfortable .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Like he really prioritizes his partner's comfort level and so I think he would understand that like I would have to be really comfortable with someone to even try this , so he would be like , yeah , let's fucking do it .

Speaker 2

Yeah . So we'll see how it goes yeah it is interesting how , when we feel comfortable and when we feel like safe within our partners , that how much more things we're willing to experience for sure and how much more things that we think like , it opens up something for us , you know , and we're like wow , I never thought about it , but I could try this or I could try that , because we feel so safe that they'll take care of us , whether it hurts , whether it didn't work out , whether whatever , they'll still take care of it's embarrassing if it's yeah , and so whatever

Speaker 1

we feel so safe in that environment that it gives us permission to like , want things yeah , yeah , because otherwise , if you feel really uncomfortable , yeah , you , you are so worried , like we've talked about before , you're so worried about all these external factors like what I look like or what I sound like , or oh , the lights are on too much , or this or that , and you're not really in the moment and actually enjoying what's happening it's like , then why are you even having sex ?

Speaker 2

Yeah , I don't know , I'm not really sure .

Speaker 1

Yeah , you can't just have sex just to do it or just for the other person's pleasure , like , if you're not having a good time , a really good time , then yeah , it goes back to that doing sex . I know what about , uh , this one . It says from boring to bodied , the maximalist bedroom makeover , romanticizing your sex life like your wardrobe , lingerie rituals , bedroom aesthetics , sex , sex playlists , oils , toys , confidence tools .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I think that sets the tone a little bit . Just like we talked about in our past show that setting the vibe of things and kind of like I don't know , like doing that before instead of trying to do it in the moment .

Speaker 1

Yeah .

Speaker 2

Is really . It makes a huge difference , I think , and it kind of gets you into the mood . You're doing the candles , you're doing the dimming . You know , whether you do it or your partner does it , or you express to your partner that that's something that you would like to do , so that it makes them , makes you feel like they're putting a little extra effort before .

Speaker 1

I think it's really good . Yeah , like I always have to have , I gotta I gotta have the dimming , I gotta have the candles . I really like that stuff .

Speaker 1

You know , smell is like a huge thing for me yeah and I feel like I have a an over over what is like , like my sense of smell is heightened yeah at all times , like not just right now , like it's just always been like that , I don't know why , but um , so yeah , I gotta have like candles going If anything smells weird or I'm like Nope , yeah , you don't , like , I'm done , um , and I do . You know , I do like to have a little playlist going .

Speaker 2

Yeah .

Speaker 1

Yeah , so I have like a little playlist , so like I put it on or whatever , and then this weekend , so here's the thing , that's hard . So you know , I have my little dog , my little dog Gunner , and he's with me all the time . Gerald , geraldine , yeah , his name is Gunner , but he's at your house .

Speaker 1

His name is gerald or geraldine sometimes yeah um , and he's with me all the time , especially because I'm mostly like home or like working from home and stuff . So he's just like constantly at my side , he sleeps in my bed , all this stuff . So now , like if someone comes to my house and then we're in my room like I don't want him in there because he's so like hyper , he wants to like play , so he'll just be jumping all over the bed and shit . So I'm like you can't fucking be in here , yeah , no . So I just like shut the door and I'm like , hey , you gotta stay , you know . And I put well , he used to be fine . And now , oh my god , he just went outside the door like a baby . He's just whining and I'm like shut the fuck up , and it doesn't matter what I say , if I yell at him or if I don't or if I ignore him .

Speaker 2

So now I'm like I gotta have a playlist on , because I can't just be hearing that do you ever just put a gate up so that it bring like why don't you have a gate at your stairs ?

Speaker 1

uh , I did . I used to have a gate at my old house . Um , I got rid of it .

Speaker 2

I was tired of it yeah , just one that you just put up . It's my sex gate yeah , it just stays in the garage . You put it up downstairs , so he has to stay downstairs .

Speaker 1

I know I maybe I'll try that . The thing with him is he gets mad at me and then he'll pee on my rug downstairs in my living room , like on purpose . So I'll try it and we'll see if it works . Because yeah , I mean I can't just have you crying it . No , he's putting his little nose like under the door yeah , no , fuck that it wasn't having a kid .

Speaker 1

Shut the fuck up . Oh my God , it was making me so mad the other day . So then I had my the guy that was there . I was like can you put some music on ? Because I didn't , I left my phone downstairs and I'm like can ?

Speaker 2

you put some music on . Yeah , you the room . Yeah , get the fuck out of here . No , yeah , that's so silly .

Speaker 1

I know weird things to think about when you're having sex , like where's your dog going ? Well , and there was like one moment where it was like the song was changing , so there's like a tiny lull , and then like because I can't wait to hear this . So then you know you're like sex noise or whatever . And so I kind of did like ah , and then you hear him , mm . And then I was like uh-uh , no , I gotta go . I said you gotta stop . I literally I can't hear him . He sounds like he's having sex out there . Like I'm so grossed out right now . I was so fucking mad at him . I was like Gerald , you got to shut your fucking mouth .

Speaker 2

Just go take a nap downstairs . You don't need to be next to me right now .

Speaker 1

I even try Like I put like extra food and water downstairs . I even got him brand new treats that he liked . I tried to give him treats downstairs and then he's just like no , I got to be with you .

Speaker 2

Oh my God well , he is a covid dog yes , he is , yeah , poor little guy . So that's something mom and she's having sex and he's fucking mad about it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , and you know the reason he's mad about it is to be . He loves when people come over . Yeah , of course and so he just want it's not even about me he wants to hang out with him and so as soon as I let him in the room after we're going to bed , he'll whoever like , he'll just sleep next to him . He'll just cuddle up next to him and I'm like , I'm sorry , like my dog's just gonna sleep with you . Yeah , sorry if it bothers you let me know .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , god dogs are so weird , I know , yeah , but so cute , yeah , for sure . Um , okay , let's see what else chat gbt told us . Um okay , the sex you really want , but haven't said out loud yet , so like initiating without shame , telling your partner your actual fantasy naming kinks I .

Speaker 2

I mean , we talk about this is like a running theme . I think within this podcast , it's really hard to tell someone you want because you feel what you want , because you feel like they're going to like shame you or they're going to think you're weird or they're going to like you know , and this is why I want to have my sex club .

Speaker 1

Oh God , I know Because .

Speaker 2

I want to be able to talk in group .

Speaker 2

It's like group therapy and you know with these married couples that maybe they've done it or they haven't done it , and then maybe you want to say it and they're like , yeah , I did this too and this is what worked . It didn't work , you know . So it's really and you feel like some support . Yeah , right , if you're like with your husband and you're like in this group like , say , we have like a sex club and it's not a sex club like you're doing sex right , it sounds like it's like a book club .

Speaker 1

You're just talking .

Speaker 2

You're just talking fully clothed , having a conversation so imagine if you like wanted to tell your husband that you wanted to like do this thing , whatever it was . Yeah , you didn't really have the courage , you know . But then , like your friend that's next to you , she did it with her husband . And then now you're saying it , and then they kind of chime in and go , yeah , like it was really good for us . You know all this stuff , so I don't know , is it weird to have like a supportive person when you tell .

Speaker 1

I don't think it is , I don't think it's weird , but some people just are just so closed off to the idea . Yeah , so it's hard . You know what I did one time ? So I one time I was talking to this guy because I think too . So I was talking to this guy from like the hookup app , so I was on field and so we're um , also I call it a hookup app , which I don't know that it's really a hookup app . I think it's just meant as a dating app , but really everyone's on there to hook up well , like I said before , it's kind of like how tinder is was especially the beginning where it's a dating app .

Speaker 2

But like it became like kind of like they know , like if you're on this one you're trying to hook up , not where like bumble , like you're trying to like find going to date . Yeah , yeah , yeah so .

Speaker 1

So I always call it the hookup app , but I just putting it out there .

Speaker 1

I don't know if that's how they market themselves as a hookup app , but that is to me what it is , anyway .

Speaker 1

So one time I was talking to this guy on there and like it's like we cause you tend to be more open , upfront when you are going into like a connection like that where you both know what we know what we're here for , like we're not fucking around and saying like , oh yeah , I'm on a long-term relationship If that's not what we're here for . So you kind of can start having conversations pretty early on about , like , what I like , what I don't like , and this is even just like over text . And sometimes I feel like people don't say things right away and like guys will even not say stuff that they're super into because they're like afraid or they're like , oh , she might think I'm weird or whatever . And I kind of was getting that vibe from this guy that he wasn't like fully , like sharing everything , and so then I I said send me three porn videos that are like your favorite kind of porn to watch . And then he did , and then it was like oh , okay , like I could tell what you're into now , because you just send me these videos .

Speaker 2

What was he into ?

Speaker 1

uh , I mean , he just sent one is like this squirting video , this girl . And then there was one that was like a um , it was just a threesome , like it was just a two guys , though two guys and a girl , but like it was like the guys weren't doing anything . I don't remember what the third one was . Actually it must not have been anything crazy yeah , because you would remember .

Speaker 2

Yeah , I don't remember , but I never thought to ask someone that was like well , because do people just have like these ? Go-to videos I don't know , but I was like I don't really know how the like how that work porn works really like , so people probably subscribe to pornhub some right or yeah , whatever those all ones are , and then do they just save it I'm sure you can save it , like videos has to be .

Speaker 1

I don't know I don't know either , yeah interesting .

Speaker 2

That's another , maybe a topic we can explore , just watching porn yeah , yeah . Another thing that I don't know about is you know , I told you this before I never have been on the only fans app I don't know what it even looks like the other day I was thinking like , uh , because I really want to somehow bring pink doran onto onlys fans not in a sense like where , with clients or anything I would love to somehow advertise to the clients that need sexy photos .

Speaker 1

Yeah , like they already have an existing OnlyFans account . They're making money doing that , and so they come to us for us to create content for them , right ?

Speaker 2

And I'm not talking like we're going to record porn , but just like to sell to these guys like these sexy photos , like they don't have to worry about it . And then like , for example , we had a client one time she came here , she was on OnlyFans . She said she put an ad out for the guys like who wants to buy me photos from this place ? So then it ran and then she got so much amount of money and then she came here , took sexy photos and then it paid for it . Like that is . But you know , know , when you and I have talked about this , we don't really know how the app works .

Speaker 2

I know , so like we don't , know , like , like , I keep thinking like this might be a good thing , and even if it's just like a good thing for a short amount of time we make a certain amount of money for two years because no one's doing it . Yeah , like I keep thinking like we need to fucking get on there and figure it out yeah , but I don't really know how that we're .

Speaker 2

All I know is like you can subscribe to things you can like . We had one person we knew who was on there actually doing it and she said like they'll pay you like for like one video , or like they'll subscribe and then they get all these videos or you can do these private things .

Speaker 1

But like there's a lot of options . I know I gotta just go on there and see , yeah , that too , like , so I think I'm . I forgot about that . That I did that with that guy already told him that . So I'm like I kind of like that idea . You do like if you were or maybe , let's say you aren't even someone who really like watches porn you could just be like like , if you were to like watch porn , like what kind of porn would you watch , what would you search or what to like ? Like you're asking this to your partner or to this other person to kind of be like what kind of stuff would you be into ?

Speaker 2

and actually that might uh get out . It might be easier for a girl too if the you're the man is asking the girl , like if you were to watch porn or like what kind like might be easier for the girl their tornado what is that ? Oh my god it might be easier for the girl to like kind of like it's like when we do um photo shoots and we're like okay , like , show us your pinterest board yeah , yeah , like right easier to explain instead of saying like okay , I like when guys do this and this , like that's like .

Speaker 2

Might be hard for them to say , but if , like , they could send you a little short clip and they're like I really like this , like these are the things that I like you know so it's like they need to make a pinterest board of what they want as their sex vibe oh , a pinterest board , a porn hub , pinterest . This is my vibe . Can you imagine if that's how it was for dating ? Oh , my God Like you just send your , or you have a link to your Pinterest board .

Speaker 1

These are the dates I like . This is how I want you to dress . This is what we're doing . Yeah , that's hella funny . I'm going to do that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , yeah , I like it . I don't think they might like it . Yeah , so it's like this is how my sex it like this . What am I ? I like my sex to be like , and so you're just I just have a board and it has sections .

Speaker 1

These are things I like I have a section . These are things I don't like . This , these section , these are the things I have never tried but would like to yeah , oh yeah .

Speaker 2

So it's your little Pornhub board that's hilarious Pornhub board .

Speaker 1

That's hilarious Pinterest Pornhub board Pinterest Porn yeah .

Speaker 2

I don't think Pinterest wants to go into the porn industry . I don't think they need to yeah they're making enough money out there not to have to be in porn .

Speaker 1

Well , lucky .

Speaker 2

Yeah , because we're getting on Only's fans around here , only's , only's fans .

Speaker 1

Only's my um , because we're getting on .

Speaker 2

Only fans around here , onlys onlys fans , my fans , oh boy . Um , oh god , it's been a great episode this is pretty good .

Speaker 1

I mean , there's some funny ass shit on here .

Speaker 2

I know , I know , when I was reading it I was like , okay , this goes to some like fun topics to just kind of bring up , and then we'll go on tangents , just like yeah how about this ?

Speaker 1

and ? We just say inappropriate things spiritual baddies who love a little bondage . What ?

Speaker 2

yeah , man , our chat gbt's off the hook have you ever done any like kind of bondage , things like been tied up or anything like that ?

Speaker 1

not really I , um , I , I think I would again be into like light yeah , bdsm yeah , but like there's a okay on field , there's a lot of these like looking for a rope bunny and they want someone who they could just tie up like a fucking rotisserie chicken and I'm like , yeah , I'm not , I'm not really into that .

Speaker 2

I can't just be constricted like that , and I don't like pain for a long period of time and I feel like that is kind of how BDSM is a little bit yeah where I can stand pain for like short spurts , but the pain for a long period of time is not really my jam , I don't think also I really it's like a control thing .

Speaker 2

I was just , I was thinking that too I just I would freak the fuck out if I couldn't like get out my arms , yeah I would freak out because , in some ways , even though drew is the dominant , I still have full control of what's going on I know that at any time I can control this situation and I'm sure with you , like with any of your partners , you need to be able to have control in that sense . But I think that with the BDSM , and like having a dom , that's when that super safe space comes in .

Speaker 2

You have to be able to trust them so much , and I think I'm too much a control freak to be able to let that happen , like when we had that dom girl come in and I do feel like she has kind of a stronger personality you know , and that guy was like a lot younger than her . That is her dom or whatever and she said they would have like these 12 hour sessions I can't .

Speaker 1

I what like ? Why ? Yeah , there's no way in hell well , I think what happened .

Speaker 2

There's a lot of waiting . He ties her up , leaves her there no , absolutely not and then she said she'll just sleep for 24 hours after .

Speaker 1

You know , I got too much shit to do for all that .

Speaker 2

Yeah , so they have these long it wasn't 12 hours , it was less than that and then she sleeps for 12 to 24 hours after that . But it's like these long six I think it was like six hour sessions where they're doing all these things and then also on top of that is they're doing real aftercare , where he's like bathing her for an hour and like brushing and blow drying her hair and taking care . Because , no , I can only imagine , if you're being dominated for six hours , that you literally can't move your body afterwards , like she said , like my body's sore , like you were , like I worked out for six hours because being tied up in those like you know positions , like your muscles hurt and all that stuff . But yeah , I think I'm too much of a control freak . Yeah , to even to let drew like fucking tie me up like a little piggy no , I don't want that at all , it's just also .

Speaker 1

It's not sexy to me , like I don't find , yeah , nothing about that is like hot . I'm like , oh , yeah , tie me up .

Speaker 2

I'm just like that seems like you're gonna murder me , yeah , and even like when I even though I like those like hardcore books or whatever when they're saying all that and they have like the gag ball in their mouth and stuff I don't really . I mean , you already know this , I've said this before I don't like really bodily fluids and like kind of gross nasty things , things like that With the gag ball , like it's drool Like that I can't for me , that isn't sexy for me .

Speaker 1

No .

Speaker 2

I can't imagine Drew would like that either . So like I can't really have a gag ball , I mean you could do like a silk blindfold , you know like , like you know , that seems like sexy to me . Yeah , stuff like that , but like not a little silk blindfold ? I'm not putting that red ball in my mouth and then having it like on my cheeks like this , and then it's just really you can't close your mouth , can't really scream no all .

Speaker 2

I think , yeah , it feels a little scary to me , but I think those people feel very safe in those environments and I think that that's what they have to like , do like . Remember that girl too . She said we don't date like , we just do this dom thing like they don't date after , because we have to create this like environment always yeah and it to be very trusting that we can't like blur lines with anything else that's too much for me .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's crazy , it's , it seems difficult for me too for me .

Speaker 2

I don't want that no thanks , I'll be vanilla . Yeah , I'm a little bit more vanilla than that .

Speaker 1

Me too , me too yeah , yeah , yeah , yikes , but that's okay . I think you just have to find your sweet spot , yeah , what works for you and for your partner , and you just go for it . And then , yeah , maybe go like a little outside your comfort zone here and there and see how it feels and if it's too much , come back yeah , back . Yeah , it's fine yeah yeah , but maybe you'll like it maybe you'll like it a lot spicy , spicy yeah I like it this has been so interesting well , I'll let you know um when I try out my uh little dom thing and let you know how it goes .

Speaker 1

Yeah , it's .

Speaker 2

That's going to be great . I can't wait to hear about it .

Speaker 1

Yeah , yeah , me too , he's going to get it .

Speaker 2

He's going to get it . Yeah , you're going to spank him Ew .

Speaker 1

I don't know , I don't know , I don't know , I don't know , probably not , probably not . No , the vlogger and little whips yeah , yeah , we'll see .

Speaker 2

Anyway , hopefully you guys like this little spicy mishmash of an episode .

Speaker 1

Yeah , kind of a q a a little bit . Yeah , yeah , the q a is the chat the chat gbc q a . Yeah , what the hell ? Yeah , yeah , yeah , okay , well , let us know if there's any um weird spicy things you're into . Yeah , yeah , shoot us a dm on our instagram at maximalist life podcast and we'll see you guys next time . Hope you're having fun tits up dicks out .