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Maximalist Life
This is Maximalist Life, with Brianna Gamble and Tamika Stringfellow. This unfiltered podcast is your permission slip to chase after everything you damn well desire.
Join us as we dish out no-holds-barred conversations and invite you to step into a life filled with limitless possibilities. Forget fear and embrace the maximalist mentality with us every week.
Get ready to experience piss your pants laughter, cringe-worthy truths, and be inspired to break free from living a mediocre life.
Maximalist Life
Ep 39 - Boundaries, Butt Plugs, & Beyond
Episode Summary:
We’re talking boundaries, bold moves, and adventures way past vanilla — with zero filter and plenty of ahem personal research.
🍑 That time a partner refused to go down… even after I spelled it out like a damn PowerPoint
🗣️ How to have “I want this” convos without sounding like you’re negotiating a hostage release
🍆 Anal prep 101 — from baby plugs to “oh hello, we’re really doing this”
👯♀️ Threesome tales and the delicate art of balancing multiple bodies (and egos)
🏩 Sex clubs, “lifestyle” scenes, and curating your own private playground
😮 When oral enthusiasm turns into a full-blown jaw workout
🤝 The wild ways communities rally around each other’s kinks and curiosities
💬 Why pillow talk about pleasure can keep your sex life hotter than a Vegas sidewalk in July
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Okay, so this episode is beauty.
Speaker 3:Beauty.
Speaker 1:Booty.
Speaker 3:Beauty and buttholes.
Speaker 1:Beauty in the butthole.
Speaker 3:Yeah, beauty in the butthole who does that.
Speaker 1:Who goes there? Who does it up the butthole? I want to try. So this guy that I'm going to go see today, he really wants to do it up the butthole.
Speaker 3:Ooh, so are you prepping.
Speaker 1:No, also, I have never even met him. Oh Jesus, I just tripped Okay.
Speaker 3:Wait, are you prepping your butthole? I mean I will.
Speaker 1:Yeah, are you prepping your butthole, I mean I will, yeah, before that happens. What does that entail? Preparing your butthole for anal entails, I mean first you have to be comfortable with anyone even touching your butthole, which I feel like some people are not.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I feel like if we decide, my butthole is just instantly going to go like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, puckers, yeah, just like. When I get wax, decide it. My butthole is just instantly gonna go like yeah, puckers, yeah, just like what just like when I get waxed on my butthole. Get out of there yeah, yeah, I mean mostly it's like you need to use uh butt plugs so I have a set.
Speaker 3:So because they get, they get larger, right? Yeah, it's like a small a medium and a bigger.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you got to like start with the small. You have to just like kind of stretch it out, you know, and it could take like multiple times. You could just like take I don't know, I don't know like a time frame, like I'm saying you could do it in one night if you wanted to and really just get in there, or you just like do it over time. Some people are just so weird, though, with it, like I don't do this, but like I feel like some people will just be like like they'll just put their butt plug in and then they just be like wearing it all day yeah, to stretch out their butt, okay.
Speaker 3:So that's what I read in my books that there's one specific one where he puts it in and then he's like, all right, come back in two hours and I'm gonna put the bigger one in, and then he's like, okay, come back.
Speaker 1:And then you know yeah, I mean you have to get it ready, also because this guy I already asked him for a dick pic it's big.
Speaker 3:You've been dealing with some big dickers some big ends.
Speaker 1:I'm like really nice guy so I have three. So so right now, I mean, if this one goes well, which I think- it will.
Speaker 3:Actually, I don't think that you took you updated on. Uh, mr, not eating pussy oh, I didn't because you talked about him I forgot about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I ended up, um, I don't know where, like what exactly I said on the last episode when I talked about him, like where I left off, um, meaning I don't know so, the last time I had slept with him that day, we were talking about like what was gonna happen that night and he's like oh, I want to like try all these things and he seems like he wants to be very like explorative, like with sex or whatever. But I'm like you're not even doing like regular shit, like eating me out.
Speaker 3:So he's like saying we're really fingering you, or anything like no like petting, no like oral. No, nothing right which.
Speaker 1:I'll tell you, I think I figured it out okay, good, okay.
Speaker 3:So tell a story and then tell me yeah yeah, so whatever.
Speaker 1:So if anyone didn't listen to the other one, really quick, we just I yeah, there's like friends with benefits. He lived in town, whatever. We had sex a few times and then like he just was like it's like he just wanted to fuck, like he didn't really want to, like he never went down on me, never brought it up, never talked about it, never even really like fingered me nothing and I was just like but you went down on him I did, which actually he didn't even really want me to.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he kind of was like and then he doesn't do it for me, yeah, like he doesn't really do it for him. And then apparently I gave him the best blowjob of his fucking life, cause he was like I never came from a blowjob. And then, sure enough, he did. And then I feel like he was obsessed with me after that. And then, yeah, and he's like want to see me all the time. And so we kept like hanging out and then sleeping together, and it was fine. But I was like, why are you not doing all the things? And so, doing all the things. And so I brought it up and I told him and this was over text. I brought up over text because we were texting that day about seeing each other that night. And then he's like saying all the stuff he wants to do and I was like, well, I know one thing I want to try. I was like I I mean, I want you to get my pussy tonight.
Speaker 3:That's what I want to try and have conversations you gotta have with these guys I feel like I have been getting a lot better at being direct you should fuck this shit. If the point of us is just to have sex, we need to have good sex really good, right?
Speaker 1:that's and that's what I was telling you. I was like this person is not my boyfriend, like I'm not expecting emotional support from you. I'm not expecting anything else of you except for having really good sex, and so if you can't even do that, then you don't need to be in my life. Yeah. And so I told him like that, this is exactly what I want you to do. His response he said I'll try my best.
Speaker 3:I mean not a bad response I said what are you?
Speaker 1:I said what does that even fucking mean?
Speaker 3:I think that's like yeah, I'm going to try my best. You'll try your best, but maybe some explanation like oh, I haven't really eaten pussy before.
Speaker 1:Yeah, say something I like why do I have to? That's what I didn't like either. Why do I have to like draw stuff out from whatever? So I'm like what does that even mean? And so he did married for a long time and stuff, and his ex-wife didn't like that and she, like he said she was like self-con, like really self-conscious, and so like it seemed like they just didn't really do a lot of like oral in general, which I was like that's boring.
Speaker 3:So I was like okay, mediocre goes, that's pretty much just like in there like a sex life, like you do some oral, you do some you know. Yeah, how did you start this?
Speaker 2:out what you just jammed it in, that's what he wants to do.
Speaker 1:He just wants, like, make out for a little bit and then just fuck. And I was like come on, dude. So I said this is what I want to do. Then we get there, things start happening whatever, and he just wants to fuck again, doesn't try to do anything. And I was like you, and so I was kind of annoyed. You know, I was annoyed about it. And then, um, I was like man, I gotta say something to him and in the moment I didn't say anything.
Speaker 3:Here's the thing and this is where I was kind of like trying to figure things out is because you don't orgasm with just penetration. So you weren't getting any orgasms and he was too like multiple.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, like he like three times he would. He would come like three times every time we would yeah, and he wasn't, and you weren't having any orgasms none yeah, see that.
Speaker 3:I mean that's like come on what are we doing? Yeah, I'm just gonna have sex, but I mean you gotta have some orgasms in there yeah, and I'm not even someone who's like.
Speaker 1:It doesn't even need to be every single time blah, blah, blah. Like fine, that's fine. I don't.
Speaker 3:It's not fine if, like, you're just having sex.
Speaker 1:Well, here it's fine, if, like, if the sex is really good, if everything else is really good. I don't know how to explain it.
Speaker 1:It's like I get that, but if we're just having sex, it should be that I'm having orgasms no for sure, right like, but I wouldn't be mad yeah, you wouldn't be mad, but like you're, like you're saying, like all I mean, all you're here to do is to provide my orgasms I guess how I mean it is because I feel like it's really difficult for me and so I go, okay, like, and maybe like I have to tell myself that because also I don't want to put pressure on myself yeah where I go.
Speaker 1:If it doesn't happen, then it's like feels like it was a failed, like experience, and so I go. If as long as I like had a lot of fun and everything else like felt good and like everything was whatever, it's fine. But then also you're not even doing. But how?
Speaker 3:all the things, does that actually happen where you go into these like sexual situations and you don't have an orgasm?
Speaker 1:it's yeah, it's probably like 50, 50. Damn, yeah, it's just, it's just like a me thing, you know, I mean yeah, whatever. So so I bring it up to him after and I'm just kind of like, hey, like I like what happened there, because I mentioned I wanted to do this stuff, and I also I'm just kind of like confused because I feel, like every other, like I've never slept with a guy who didn't do that, didn't like want to do that, like why did I even have to bring it up? This is just weird to me usually guys are like oh, I want to do it, chomping at the bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, they can't even, can't wait. Yeah, and I'm like you, you haven't even brought it up once, as if you even knew that that exists. And so I'm like, why didn't that happen? And then he like at first he was like, oh well, I really appreciate you, like being open with me and telling me how you feel and like kind of like starting this conversation, la la. But then it was like, as it kind of went on it, because I was like why? It's like I need an answer from you now, because now I've already asked you about it, I've communicated that this is what I want you to do.
Speaker 1:Then you had the opportunity to do it and you didn't do it again, nor did you give a reason. It wasn't like he said, oh sorry, like I just got like swept up in the moment of everything else going on. I know you said you wanted to do that, like, oh, next time I'll. It's like he didn't even say anything about it and so that's why I was like why am I now bringing it up again? And so he wouldn't give an answer. He wouldn't say I said there has to be a reason. Why, like, why don't you want to do this? Or why don't you try to do it? And I asked him, like do you just not like doing that? It's like that's something that it doesn't do it for you and that's why you don't want to do it, or like what is the reason? And it was like he didn't have a reason and it was like he started to get like a little defensive kind of like like well, I can't close that door.
Speaker 1:It's like he was kind of saying like, well, I just, I just think it's weird like you know, we've had sex a handful of times and like kind of like I'm making a big deal out of nothing sort of thing, and I was like, well, I'm just telling you, like I already have communicated to you, like what I'm looking for, like the type of energy that I need in these like experiences, and if that's not going to happen, that's fine. But I just need you to tell me, yeah, yeah, just tell me, if this is never like that's just something you're not going to do or you don't like doing, because I'm not going to hear, I'm not going to force you to do, I'm not going to beg you, that's for sure, cause you don't want to do it. There's 10 other guys who are fucking waiting.
Speaker 3:And the fact that, like you've never experienced this before with a guy. It just says it all. It's weird, weird yeah it really says it all to me like what? What are we doing?
Speaker 1:so I, yeah, I don't know. I think, like the more I think about it and the other conversations we had, because I was like like in my head I'm like I know it's not me, I know it's not like a hygiene thing, or I know it's not like a like he's, you know it's not anything. I was like I know it's not me and so I just couldn't understand and I kept like giving him options of like answers, like multiple choice pick what fucking answer it is. And he still like wouldn't say. And then like then he was, I said well, I just need to know, like what you want to do, what do you want to do moving forward, and he kind of was like I need, I need to think about it. What the fuck I say, if you need to think about it, then we're done, we don't need to like lose my number. So then he was just like no, no, no. And so I was like whatever, just text me tomorrow, you can think about your fucking answer, I guess, which I don't even know why I entertained it for that long, but I don't know.
Speaker 1:I was trying to be nice, and so then the next day he's texting me about it. And then he tried to. I feel like he was like low-key gaslighting me because he's like you know you're bringing up how like you said that you wanted to try it and I didn't do anything. But you know, you were just like really dominant and just like taking control of the whole situation and I was just going with the flow. Okay, I am never maybe every other aspect of my life. You could probably describe me as being dominant. I am 100 opposite in the bedroom. I have never been a dominant sexual person. I was like what the fuck are you talking? That absolutely did not happen. I so it's like no, no, don't try and turn it like around on me and say this is my fault so weird yeah.
Speaker 1:So I was just like look. So I finally I just texted him. I said hey, like look, I don't know. Like this is just kind of a weird vibe now and I don't know like what's going on and you can't really like you're being super vague and not answering any of my questions directly, which I really don't like that. And so I think like it's been nice getting to know you I did have fun, I did appreciate like how respectful you were during all of our interactions and everything but this just isn't working for me anymore yeah so so what do you think it was?
Speaker 1:the only thing I can think of is because he is so, so, so, so scared of stds, like he acts like if you get STD you'll die, which I mean yeah, some of them you will.
Speaker 1:But the way he would talk about stuff or the way it was like I don't know, I feel like that maybe was it where he like doesn't want to do that, because maybe he, because I mean, you can obviously get an STD just as easily from world as like vaginal sex, and so I that's the only thing I can think of is that he I mean he was just so worried because I was honest with him about the fact that I am sleeping with other people, like I'm, if I'm not your girlfriend, then I don't owe you exclusivity for anything. It that's how my mindset is, like yeah, I understand there's people who do that, but like I'm not interested in having just one friends with benefits person and then my mom no, because I'm single and I can just especially if you're not, especially if you're not giving me everything that I need sexually, then why would I only have sex with you?
Speaker 3:My thing with that is, with him like being like worried about STDs and stuff. I, I understand that, but I think I mean he should have just said it and maybe he's trying to spare your feelings. But like, if you're just like talking about it and just being like, look, I'm worried about STDs, I'm just not really comfortable doing it with you, then okay fine.
Speaker 1:I think, and that I think the thing that over the time, over the couple days that the conversation kept going on and he kept being more vague, couldn't be dragged with anything, couldn't? I would ask direct, specific questions and he wouldn't answer him. It was like giving me the ick that he couldn't even just communicate properly. That was probably the biggest thing where I go. I'm actually grossed out by you now and I don't even want to have sex with you because you're just like, come on, like you're 40 years old and you can't even have this conversation yeah, I hate that so just say it.
Speaker 1:My thing is always like just fucking say it, we'll deal with the consequences after so I thought about it later and I was like I bet you that is what it is. I bet that is because I mean he's just so. I mean he's like, oh my god, if I get any STD I'll fucking die. And I'm like, okay, don't be so dramatic. Yeah, also, you know, it's the same thing, like I get it and people need to be safe and blah, blah, blah. And there's always gonna be, even if you're, even if you're the most safe person, like there's still, you're still putting yourself at risk, like having sex with people yeah but also we're also out here driving cars around.
Speaker 1:People are dying in car accidents every fucking day, and that doesn't mean that you're not like you're doing stuff already. That's yeah, you could die from whatever. So I don't know, I just think it's so ridiculous, but yeah, I think like that's that, that's what it was, but I don't know, because he couldn't just say that?
Speaker 3:yeah, like he should have just said it so, so, that's fine. I mean people you know want to just have like one partner and use condoms and all that kind of stuff. Go for it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. More power to you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, I think that's safe sex and I, yeah, I mean I think that if I was, single. I would probably be more on that. You know, I don't know.
Speaker 1:I don't really want to use condoms, but I'd probably be more of the person that just has sex with like one person at a time because I don't want to use condoms what I, what I like to do, is like and what, like I think a lot of people who have, who do sleep with multiple people do, is like you can have, like I'm okay with having the exclusivity of the no condom thing with one person yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:So, like my mr monday, we do not use condoms anymore, but like we're the only as far as we're the only people together who don't, so if he has sex with anyone else or I have sex, you're using that way. It's, yeah, safer, yeah, plus, we're all getting tested every two or three months anyway, yeah staying on top of it.
Speaker 1:So it's kind of like I mean he should have just been able to tell you that it turned into this whole thing yeah, it's like you're the one that it's like he kind of was trying to make me seem like I'm being dramatic, which, first of all, don't ever tell me. I'm being dramatic by telling you what I need yeah, telling you what my needs are, but also you're the one that's making it dramatic because you couldn't just answer when I first asked you about it, right? You're turning it into this whole thing that it didn't need to be right now it's awkward, right, so?
Speaker 1:so I actually told mr monday about this oh, what do? You say he was dying? Yeah, he couldn't even fucking. He was like I can't believe that you just kept having sex with him and he never even fucking, did that for you.
Speaker 3:I mean, I, I haven't told you that and he was like.
Speaker 1:He was like brianna. I don't know why you do stuff like this. He goes. You're just too generous, too nice to people. That's what that guy was telling you yeah, oh, yeah, after you gave him a blow job and he was petting you. He just said yeah, I just feel like you're such a giver yeah, I'm giving you orgasms and you're not giving me any yeah, you're a taker.
Speaker 1:No, no, he, he was dying. Mr monday was like and he was like this. He was like I can't even believe this. And he's like and the thing that pisses me off, he's so nice. He said he always, like, wants to compliment me and stuff. He goes. You know, the thing that kills me, too, is these fools are just out here acting like they're having sex with girls who are just as hot and dope as you, and we know that's not true. And I was like see, this is why you're my mr monday, because you're just so nice to me, yeah, yeah. And so he's like yeah, fuck, that guy, don't ever talk to him again. I was like yeah, I'm never gonna talk to him again.
Speaker 1:So fuck off yeah, so that's the update on him. So see, ya, yeah, that's. The only thing I'm bummed about is that he did live in town and it was really easy, yeah so oh well yeah, whatever I'll travel for some good dick I mean your.
Speaker 3:Mr monday lives in town.
Speaker 1:He, does yeah, in county and he, well, he lives in my actual town. Yeah, because we both live in fairfield. Yeah, yeah, yeah, so, um, so that's that maximalist life oh my god, our intro. God, we're getting so bad that next time it's gonna just be at the end. We're gonna say intro and the end the outro. Oh my god, welcome to maximalist life. I'm your host, brianna and I'm tamika. And today, what are we talking about? Again, sex.
Speaker 3:No Sexual pleasures.
Speaker 1:Oh, I mean we could. I guess it could be a sex update one.
Speaker 3:Yeah, but we don't have any other updates. Oh wait, did you? Well, you do have another story, do I? Yeah, wait, you're San Francisco friends story, do I? Yeah, wait, you're san francisco friends. Okay, so I did meet a couple in san francisco, which I was a little worried about.
Speaker 3:Actually I was too. Yeah, I mean, I don't know why I felt so unsafe for you to go on this one, because the one that you you said that was like almost the best sex of your life in berkeley or in oakland or whatever. I don't know why I didn't feel unsafe in that you said that was like almost the best sex of your life in Berkeley or in Oakland or whatever I don't know why, I didn't feel unsafe in that you went over there it was just him and you went to his house, you know.
Speaker 3:But for some reason I felt a little off on this one and I was a little concerned.
Speaker 1:When I was in the city and I was going at night and it's a couple where it's like there's two of them.
Speaker 3:And this is the one I think you talked about where you guys went to Walnut Creek.
Speaker 1:Went to drinks.
Speaker 3:You went to drinks and you kind of talked to them.
Speaker 1:And I mean I don't know. We post our episodes a little out of order sometimes, but on the last one we recorded I was talking about how we were having drinks and everything and then we were wondering, if you think, do people know what's going on here? Because he's like sitting with her and then he leaves to go to the bathroom. He comes back and he's kind of like like sliding his hand on my arm or like grabbing my shoulder and doing all this I mean in front of her. It's not like she wasn't there but I think people that are in the lifestyle or also like have good intuitions they're going.
Speaker 1:These people are on a date or if they're just like observant, because some people are just so oblivious to any fucking person in the room they don't even know what's happening. Yeah, I mean, look at how people drive, and so people who are observant, I think would go.
Speaker 3:That's weird that he's like touching her arm, but then he's sitting next to this person and she has like. It just seems like there's something happening here is weird, here like who's the wife you know, or at least questions it right they may not be able to figure it out like these people are meeting up because they're gonna have three they're gonna fuck yeah, it's more like what's happening.
Speaker 1:This is kind of weird little eyebrow raise, you know what kind of lifestyle y'all living yeah, a fun one I've been listening to this uh podcast about it's.
Speaker 3:It's about these. It's a couple and they're like swingers it's a secret life of swingers or something like that. I can't fun I mean I don't know if I really so I've only listened to like one episode so far when she's talking about like having, like it's mostly about them, like talking about being bi in like the lifestyle, or whatever.
Speaker 3:Okay, they're both bi I think he has done some stuff so I haven't gotten to that. Part is mostly he was asking about her first okay and so I think he they don't. Neither of them would say they would buy actually they just say they play, but they actually actually like. She said yeah, I've like gone down on women, I like sure I enjoy it or whatever, but she was like I would never like romantically be with like a woman Like that's just like not my thing you know Same.
Speaker 3:So it is interesting to hear these stories like from these different, and they go to like sex clubs, they go to like all these things, um, from what I'm hearing, and they really are like swapping they're like swapping their partner.
Speaker 3:God, I want to do that so bad and they, they're doing all these things. And you know, I think it gets in my head because at first I've always thought like I could let drew have sex with girls and stuff. Probably I don't think I can, I don't think I want to watch, I don't think that, that's like something that I really want to watch.
Speaker 3:I I could let him just like go off, Because here's the thing for Drew and I. I mean, it's common and uncommon too. He's never had sex with anyone else but me.
Speaker 1:Right.
Speaker 3:And so I feel like I could be like, okay, go ahead and have sex with someone else, it's fine, like I think I would be okay with that. I don't really think that I want to watch and I definitely don't want to get fucked in front of him either. Oh, okay, yeah, I don't think I could. I don't think I could. I just don't think that we're too embarrassed to. I think him and I both get the secondhand embarrassment where we couldn't do stuff in front of each other. I think it would just be like too much for us. I think.
Speaker 1:That's to me, that's the, that's the most actually like anxiety inducing part of having a threesome is like I feel like there's this so when you're one-on-one with someone you know, you can kind of control like what angle they look at you from and like what, and you're kind of in tune with what's happening, where now there's this third person who sometimes sees things from a different perspective, and it's almost like you're now like performing.
Speaker 3:It's a performance yeah, see, I don't look at it like a performance well, I guess.
Speaker 1:So my thing is I think in a threesome, where it's like a couple, it's like to me, I feel like there's always this underlying thing where it's like the guy wants, it's like a performance for the guy yeah, like he's like.
Speaker 3:Oh, I want to see this going on, yeah, yeah, that's true, and especially, I think, because you're coming in as a third person, you're the entertainment exactly that's exactly what I mean. Yeah, or the girl's like oh yeah, I just really want to see my husband fuck someone else and then, yeah, either way, you're performing so he was talking about on this podcast that he was like I really like watching, like his favorite thing is watching, guys fuck her, but he like that's his favorite thing but, he, he was like, she's like, but you can't like, what would you choose?
Speaker 3:and you can't touch me and he's like, I can't even take my dick in your mouth while someone's fucking you like that's what he wants oh like he really? He wants to be able to like play as well he doesn't really. He's not like a cuck, we're just like watching or whatever. He was like I really, but he in the end he said, like my favorite thing is watching a guy.
Speaker 3:Fuck you like he just loves it yeah, because he asked like is it me? You know, she asked like is it me? Like messing with the girl?
Speaker 1:you know, and he was like nah, I want you to be fucked yeah, I feel like there's a lot of guys in that lifestyle, that that that's what they like.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so okay. So there's a guy. So there's a guy that I have had sex with and he's he lives in San Jose. Okay, I told you about him. Um, so he was texting me yesterday and was like hey, I might be like coming up this weekend, can I see you? And so I was like yeah, and then he's like, okay, are you available Friday? Well, today's Friday, tonight I have a date with this other guy who I haven't met him yet. Okay.
Speaker 1:But I mean the plan is. The plan is basically like we're going to drinks. It's more of a vibe check date. It's not like a date date, like we're going to go and have drinks and just make sure it's all like we have.
Speaker 1:On the open up, yeah, and then if we're good to go, we're going to his house. That's the plan. Where does he live? He lives in Danville. I know we're going to meet Creek, which I really like Walnut Creek so we're gonna go there and then, if everything's fine, then we'll go to his house or whatever. So I so the guy who was texting me yesterday wants to see me this weekend. And then I said well, I'm busy Friday, but I could see you on Saturday. And he's like, do you have a date on Friday? And I'm like yes, and he is like oh, is this a new guy? And I'm like yeah, and he's like, are you planning on having sex with him? Which I didn't know where this conversation was going. I didn't know if he was like yeah, I said I mean yeah, I am planning on having sex with him.
Speaker 1:And he goes you know what you should do ask him to take videos of him fucking you and send them to me. He's into it. I was like that's what you want me to do and he's like I really want to see that. I'm like, oh my god uh, are you?
Speaker 3:will you do that? Are you concerned about having a video of you?
Speaker 1:not concerned. I was gonna be like having sex and then so he took videos of me okay uh, but I had said just don't get my face in the video.
Speaker 1:And he was like, yeah, I, I won't. And then and he showed me the videos after, like he was like I'll show, because I was like I don't really want to see them. He's like I just want to show you that like I didn't get your face in them, like he was like I want you to like not feel weird about it. And, um, here's the thing the videos from behind, fine. Fine. The videos from the front, I don't really like. I was like can you delete that one?
Speaker 3:It's fine, Because from the front, what are they Like? What position are you guys in?
Speaker 1:It's just like missionary. Well, he's kind of like standing up.
Speaker 2:And then he's just like Mm-hmm, like holding the phone kind of by his face, and then like it's down.
Speaker 1:Watching it, then you could like see my whole body and you can't see my face. Yeah, so I mean my thing, which I know you already know, it's like my thing that I'm the most self-conscious. Well, two things, the two things I'm most self-conscious on my whole entire body. Number one my double chin, which is just such a like I think even if I was so, so skinny, I would still have it. It's just such like that's just my face, um, but my scars, cause I have really bad scars from my surgeries.
Speaker 1:I feel like they looked really bad in the video. I was like, oh, like I just was like. I hate that. It just looks like I look like Frankenstein.
Speaker 3:That's how it feels you know, to me I was just like I don't know.
Speaker 1:But I'm also not going to be like delete it, like I don't give a fuck. You want to look at that and jack off, fine, I don't care. But yeah, I couldn't believe he was like take, ask him to take videos. And I was like, oh my god. And then, because I told him uh, the guy who was texting me, I had told him before like like would you have a threesome with me with another guy? And he was like, yeah, of course, and he's like totally straight, like he's like I'm not do stuff or no, he won't do stuff with the guy. Okay, he is like I'm not going to do stuff with the guy. But yeah, then, but then later, but then later I was like are you?
Speaker 1:you never have done stuff with the guy. He was like look like, if he wants to suck my dick or something like I would let him. I'm like you would's like. So he is all about. Like he's just like I just want you like. He's like I'm just like your pleasure person. Like he's like I'm a pleasure dom. I'm like okay, whatever the fuck that and he was, I didn't even tell you this. I don't think I told you this too.
Speaker 1:I mean, he just want to eat me out the whole night, that's all he really wanted to do, I mean we he wants to do that so much and then like, like in between two, like we were like switching positions, and then he wants to go back to eating me out. He wants to do all this stuff up. He's like throwing me around but also isn't like so violent, like aggressive it's like he also wanted to just be like so pleasurable, yeah.
Speaker 1:So then when he's like oh you're, I was like I say you're not. I say you're not mad that I'm gonna go fuck this other guy, he goes. He's like no, I want you to have the most pleasure ever. And I was like okay, me too, thanks. So he asked me he goes. So is this, is this a guy that you're considering for our threesome? I said yeah, it is actually because I said do you have any? I said do you have any requirements for the guy like or anything you would like for me to like take into consideration? He was like I, he goes.
Speaker 1:The main thing he's like the main thing is I just needed to be a really nice person. I know I said you do because he's so nice too. He's so nice he goes. Is I just needed to be a really nice person? I know I said you do because he's so nice too. He's so nice he goes. I don't like when guys try to be cool. I don't like if they're like they are like rude to you. I don't want to do anything like degrading, like I don't want to. He said he doesn't want to do it with someone who's not kind of on the same wavelength that's yeah, like he's not trying to be the one with the guy.
Speaker 3:That's like spitting in your mouth and like fucking slapping the shit out of you. He's like I don't want to see any of that, yeah.
Speaker 1:So he's like I just need to be a really nice person, I just need to be like a really cool person who's like kind of chill and going to like this guy. Okay, because I think the guy that I'm that I haven't met yet, that I'm gonna go on the date with, like he seems kind of innocent, oh, he seems like not in, like totally inexperienced, but like he's not really but where did you find this guy like? On the app, the same app with the okay as the other guy.
Speaker 1:But he said he he's like I've been on this app only for like three weeks and so he's like I haven't met anyone or whatever, and he only has had sex with one person in the last year and it was like six months ago was the last time I don't understand how the people are just out here dry I know and it's not.
Speaker 1:I don't even know what he does for work, but he's's like I just work a lot and then but I know he works like it's like a Monday through Friday type of job and he's, but then sometimes he like works late and all this stuff. So I don't know like I'll talk to him tonight about like what he does for work and stuff.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so I don't really know what he does.
Speaker 1:But uh, so is he open to having a threesome with? Yeah? I asked him and he was just like I mean yeah, like if that's something that you really want to do, like I would be open to it. And he's like I just want to clarify, though, I'm 100 straight. I said yeah, no, no, no, I, I, you don't have to do anything.
Speaker 1:I said the other guy that I was like thinking of asking you to do it with, like he's also straight, and he's like, yeah, I don't. He was like I just want to make sure, like I'm not comfortable doing anything with the guy, but I'm also not going to be weird, like okay, we're there, okay, like whatever, but I'm not doing anything with him. I was like, yeah, that's totally fine, so we'll see. So I'm going to go see him today. And then this dude, the one who was texting me, he's like okay, so you're going to see him on Friday. I was like, yeah, he's like okay, and then I'm going to see you on Saturday. He goes, yeah, and he goes. Is he free Saturday? And I was like I don't get him on the date. I said I'll see how it goes too, because also I need to have sex with him first and see how it goes yeah, yeah, you can't just be like over here like this is our first time.
Speaker 3:That's so awkward I mean, I guess it's almost like you're a couple, how it is with a couple, with like yeah a person coming in it's like, like you and the other guy, you and the san jose guy are a couple, and then you just like bringing this other guy in there and we were gonna get drinks too, like the three of us first.
Speaker 1:Same same idea. Like let's just like make sure everyone's cool, and if not, that's the thing too. I have noticed with people too in this whole lifestyle I know that's such a weird thing to say.
Speaker 3:I I know because on the podcast I listen to they keep saying like lifestyle, I'm just like.
Speaker 1:I mean it's just like and I don't feel like that's me.
Speaker 3:I'm not like it's weird to be like I'm in this lifestyle yeah, I feel like it's such a weird thing to like how they put it on a like a label on it. It's like I mean, when people why does it have to be a lifestyle? When people are like gay or whatever. It's not like this is my lifestyle why do they have to label it like lifestyle, you know, or people are like what? Anything, when? You do anything it's not like. Oh, this is my maximalist lifestyle you know, it's just like.
Speaker 3:This is just like, but it's just like they're just calling it lifestyle. That's why I think it's so weird.
Speaker 1:You know, I know, yeah it's so weird yeah, yeah, I don't know, so we'll. We'll see how it goes tonight. First scary I mean I asked, yeah, I told, I said I need you to send me a dick pic. You know, I can't be going into any more scenarios you know what, though?
Speaker 3:I feel like you have been getting good ones lately so good like big ones yeah so.
Speaker 1:So the guy who was texting me from san jose, so he has a big dick and he's really good in bed, super nice guy this guy seems very similar to him, very similar, a good match. So I'm like maybe this is great. And then I got my mr monday, so I go, maybe these are the three. We just rotate, yeah, we just rotate between the three. Maybe all three of them could come. One time. David said he, oh, I don't want to share his name. Yeah, he said he didn't really want to do that. Mr monday, he, he has done threesomes before with like two guys and but he was like I don't, really it's too much. It's usually like if it's a couple type of thing. But he's like I'll do it. He would like I'll do it if you really want to, but like I'd rather have a threesome with another girl obviously well, you know what it could be is if you found another girl, so it's three guys, two girls.
Speaker 3:or do you sell jesus? It could be is if you found another girl, so it's three guys two girls Orgy style Jesus. It could be a fun play thing.
Speaker 1:That could be something. I just think it would be so much better if some of the guys would do some shit with each other.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean so that it doesn't so much pressure on you.
Speaker 1:Because so I was here's the thing too, so this is going to be funny. I was here's the thing too, so this is going to be funny. I was thinking to myself because he's asking me, the the new guy we're we're texting back and forth about the threesome thing. And then he was just like like what would we even do, since me and him aren't doing anything like? And so I'm like you know, so I'm literally Googling positions for a MMF threesome two straight guys and it's like, yeah, there's all these positions, but it's kind of the same, it's kind of the same thing, and all of them require me to be sucking a dick at any given point in time. I'm like I don't want to be sucking two dicks.
Speaker 1:I don't want this whole threesome. I'm just so, I don't know. But here's the thing.
Speaker 3:Also, you could just do whatever you want and I could just say whatever I want them to do yeah I think I might be you're just like jacking off ones eating my pussy and then you guys just switch out. I'm not doing anything to you yeah, you just switch me out, you should have went with the guy that said he would just love to suck a dick with you oh, not that guy not that guy, not that guy.
Speaker 1:No, also, you know, I tried to suck a dick with somebody twice. It's not that fun.
Speaker 3:I feel like it's a one-person job.
Speaker 1:It really is. I mean, think about like, think about you're eating a sucker, okay, and then you have to. You're just going back and forth just sharing it, or we're both putting our tongue on the sucker. I just want to put it in my mouth.
Speaker 3:You don forth just sharing it, or we're both putting our tongue on the sucker, but I just want to put it in my mouth. You don't have to be here for that. Yeah, I think that that's my problem with so. You know, obviously everyone knows I'm really messy and stuff. I have this weird thing about bodily fluids like sharing, and so I yeah, and so I just spit and I just don't like I don't know. I think that's why I couldn't be in the lifestyle.
Speaker 3:I have too many icks you know, when it comes to just like not icks like oh I'm shaming anything, but like I'm not trying to share my fluid with like a person besides my husband that I've been with for a long time, and so it's just like I would have a hard time getting over that.
Speaker 3:I think a little bit also like I cannot lick pussy, sorry well, you know, I was gonna say of the threesomes I've had with another girl, I really haven't done much of that yeah, so I mean really, when I was listening to that podcast and she talks about how she does like sometimes she just like ties the girl up and then just fucking goes, whatever you know, yeah, it seems fun or whatever, but I just don't think that that's for me really yeah, I mean that san francisco couple.
Speaker 1:They didn't do that at all. Oh really no. Okay, well, he would.
Speaker 3:He was almost a little bit like a porn director and we're back a week later because we have real lives and sometimes we run over time and then we don't get to finish the episode, and it was a good one it was going pretty well and we had to cut it off.
Speaker 1:I had to go to my hair appointment, sorry, no, so we're doing part two now.
Speaker 3:No, you can't. No, was it your hair appointment? Oh, yeah, yeah, okay, okay. So we were talking about threesomes. We were san Francisco ones. Yeah, so that one San Francisco one okay, you were saying that he was like a porn director. He kind of was okay, okay, okay so this is what happened.
Speaker 1:so I go to their house and the first weird thing was he. He came to the door to let me in and like it's like you go in this like gate and then you have to like walk down and like it's like you go in this like gate and then you have to like walk down this like long hallway, but it's like they I don't know. Anyway, I don't know how to describe how their house is, but so he came to the gate and then it's like we were like standing there talking for a little bit and it's like he hugged me and stuff, but then I feel like he's trying to kiss you. Are we kissing? Yeah? And and it was like, oh, like how are you so good to see you? La, la, la. And it was like I didn't really know and I felt like there was like a lingering moment and then he was just like, yeah, well, just come, in, come in. Like it was like I was like I don't know, you know, I hate awkward moments, and that is.
Speaker 3:It was kind of awkward for a minute like we didn't know what to do, and so that was strange yeah, like am I supposed to kiss you cuz I'm gonna put my penis in you, but you're not my partner. So how is this gonna work?
Speaker 1:like right is that kind of the thing like this is inappropriate right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, she's not here and kissing seems so intimate a little bit. Yeah, when you kiss someone, hello and goodbye. It's very loving.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah okay and I don't love him, hope so we. So we went inside and then everything was fine, like they were. I mean, they were right, they were set up like it was okay. So describe the scene. Describe the scene. So I walk in. Okay, they have a very cozy, like cute, like little, uh, I guess it's an apartment, um, so everything took place in the living room, which I preferred because I don't really like, I feel like it. Maybe it's weird if you have a threesome in their bed, okay, and then maybe she might have memories of that in the past, uh, threesomes that you've had have has it been in, never been in the marital bed okay, good, oh, one was like a hotel, right, one was a hotel I'm trying to think of.
Speaker 1:I'm trying to think the only one that was in the marital bed was it wasn't a threesome. I don't remember the couple a long time ago this was in the beginning when it was like they wanted to have a threesome but then she was going out of town. Oh, almost the best sex you ever had in my whole life, yeah, yeah. And then she set it up for me to have sex with him instead by myself. That was in their bed and I did feel weird about it yeah, so uh, yeah, so okay.
Speaker 1:So I walk in and it's just like. It's like lights are low, got some like little music playing in the background, and I brought wine. I mean I felt like I should bring something. I'm like going to their house. So I was like I don't know, should I bring something? Is this like a proper guest situation? And so, yeah, what's through some etiquette? I'm not really sure. I'm not really sure, but I felt like it wouldn't hurt. Um, also, I'm gonna bring this unopened bottle of wine and we can open it together and drink it, just to make sure I don't get drugged I mean I said this earlier in the other podcast in the other other podcast.
Speaker 3:Uh, I was a little concerned this time, I think, because you were going to their house and it was so far. Like I couldn't really get to you quickly if I needed to. And you know, I don't know why, I felt more comfortable when you're like at a hotel or it's more one-on-one, yeah, where this time is like two against one, not like I mean, she doesn't really matter. I mean you see men and you go to their houses and they can overpower you just like I don't know why she would.
Speaker 3:It's just, you hear so many things and I was just like so worried, this time a little bit yeah, I mean I watched too much 2020 and lifetime movies yeah, I was like fuck, they're gonna drug her like kid you know, because they did talk about doing drugs with me Maybe that's what it is too Like so that they already brought this drug thing in and it just felt a little off.
Speaker 3:I know Just a little bit, and so I mean I think it's good to be aware of those situations when you're putting yourself into these situations, right? But yeah, I don't know, I.
Speaker 1:So I'm like happy that like well, and I felt like I didn't feel weirded out, like you know, because I did meet them already before in a public place and I felt like we had all these conversations and I felt like really comfortable with them. So I was like I think it's okay, plus I um the names that I know them by that they had given me. Like they called ahead to make the reservation, but I got to the restaurant first I don't know if I mentioned this last time, but so I went in and then I was like oh, we have a reservation for three and I was like it should be under the name Lucas. And then she like was looking on the iPad and then I don't know why, but she like turned the iPad towards, towards me and was like, is it this one? And so it had his first and last name and it said lucas and I saw his last name and so I was like okay, yeah, I mean that is obviously then his real name.
Speaker 1:Like why would he make it under a fake name? I mean, I guess if he thought he would be standing there or I would be standing there when he said it, maybe I don't know, but somehow that made me feel better. That was his name but um, yeah, I don't know why, it was like a little bit scary. I was mostly worried about like having to like park in like it's in San Francisco and I don't you know I don't know anything about the city and like parking by the houses and I don't know anything about the neighborhoods and it's nighttime and I just was like what the fuck?
Speaker 3:yeah, and I think too, like I don't know if you guys discussed like are you staying the night? Like then that means you're driving home at 1 o'clock in the morning and I know everyone's going to need some sort of alcohol. Like what's this after situation happening to? I don't know, because it's like not like at a hotel where everyone just get their own room Mm get their own room, you know. It's like you're at my house, you need to leave, and if something happens, it's like you got to get out of there quickly if anything was to go wrong. Not necessarily like they're going to kidnap and rape you, but like the wife something like she freaks out or like you know. It's like how do I, the fuck, do I get out of here?
Speaker 1:yeah you know, luckily I got a parking spot literally right in front of their house.
Speaker 1:So I was like, okay, that's good because I don't have to walk far or whatever. And you had already told me it was like a safe neighborhood, because I told you where it was and you're like, okay, that's good. So I was like, okay, this is going well. So then I had a little awkward situation with him. But then I went in the living room and she was in there and, um, yeah, so I brought the wine and so like we did like she was gonna pour the wine, whatever. So I went with her to the kitchen and made it like, oh, like, let's just chat, or whatever. Really it was like I want to be here when you open this and pour it.
Speaker 3:And make sure you're not like putting a little thing, a little roofing, in here.
Speaker 1:So then we were drinking, so we're drinking like we start. Or I'm sorry, she poured the wine or whatever, and then we went back to the living room, or, I'm sorry, she poured the wine and whatever, and then we went back to the living room, so I brought the wine with us to the back, to the living room. Good, girl and put it on the coffee table, so it was literally right in front of us, and so then we just kept drinking and then like pouring it more or whatever.
Speaker 3:And then he. It's like me and her pillows everywhere. It's just like your regular living room.
Speaker 1:Come on in it was like a regular living room. They do have like a big l-shaped couch, okay. So it's like this big couch and so, like me and him were kind of like sitting on one side of it and she was sitting like a little bit on the other side. Um well, because she was sitting over there, I was sitting. Then I went and sat down and then he kind of sat down like sort of in the middle and so then we're just talking and like having conversation whatever, and you could tell he was like trying to speed shit up, like he was like all right, let's fucking go, you know. He's excited.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and me and her are just like trying to have a regular conversation, like I could tell she was like nervous, which anytime I could tell the other person is nervous, it makes me way less nervous. Anytime I can tell the other person's nervous, it makes me way less nervous, because I'm like, oh, thank god they're nervous, you know. And then and I felt like too like we just drink a little bit of wine, it'll like loosen everyone up and then it's fine. But he was just like all right, so like, and you know he's so blunt too and he'll just fucking say whatever, and sometimes he says stuff and I feel like she's like embarrassed by him yeah and uh, which.
Speaker 1:I got that vibe at the restaurant too. And so he was like asking her, like he's like I think we like me and her just chatting. He goes, so I think we should give each other massages. Okay, well, here we go and she just kind of looks at me like what the fuck? And so then she looks back at him and she goes yeah, I think you should give us massages, that would be great. And so he's like yeah, I would love to whatever. He's just like being so weird, he's being so weird. I don't like this guy. I know he is like silly. And so then it's like he kind of dropped it because I think he got the hint. Got the hint that she was like shut the fuck up. So we like keep talking or whatever. And then it's like he like then kind of puts his hand on my leg, then he puts his hand on my back, then he's kind of like playing with my hair. Then he asked if he could kiss me. We're in the middle of a conversation.
Speaker 3:Now how is he playing with your hair?
Speaker 1:Like he's just caressing it like this no kind of like behind my head, like you know, almost like my head, I guess. Okay.
Speaker 3:In my hair I have extensions, don't touch my head.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, I don't love it when guys touch my hair.
Speaker 3:I'm like get out, Get out. I have a thing too.
Speaker 1:I mean, I always, even without really want you to touch my hair. No, I don't like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah and you know it's like hold it and stuff they want to like run their hands in it, like on your scalp, and I'm like, if you pull on my fucking extensions, I swear to god. Yeah, yeah, just keep your hand somewhere else. So yeah, so he was kind of doing that. And then he asked if he could kiss me, which I was like please, so I know, and I I like looked at her I don't know why like permission I don't know, it's just like a weird thing how he went about it and so and she was like, yeah, go for it.
Speaker 1:And so I was like, okay, so then like we kind of made out, then he like turns over and starts making out with her, like he's just like trying to get this going.
Speaker 1:He doesn't want to talk anymore so then, he never wanted to talk he was like shut the fuck up, yeah. So then he just kind of starts, like he just starts doing all this stuff. Then he goes over, like he gets up for a minute, like he's gonna walk, like leave the room, and he goes, I'm gonna go get something. I think you guys should start making out, okay. I was like, oh my god, so we did. And he comes back. He went and got his massage oil. He really wanted to do this massage, okay.
Speaker 3:So this is like a porno.
Speaker 1:It is, it's so it feels very porno and I feel like, especially the whole beginning was very um, uh, like it didn't flow as well as it should have, I think, because he was like directing things along instead of just letting it happen. So we were just kind of like going along with it Like all right, whatever, dude. And so then he comes back out and like goes behind her. Then he just like he has this like massage and then he just puts his hands like in her shirt and just starts like massaging her boobs.
Speaker 1:And you can tell she didn't really like. This is like having sex with like a 19 year old. It feels like it's like, and she's kind of like laughing, and then she's like she goes oh, is this the massage you were talking about? Like we're almost like making fun of him, you know, and he knows it and doesn't give a fuck either. He's just like yeah, bitch, yeah, and so I really hate this. I know it was just so, like I said, it was just like not the most smooth intro, but also it was funny, like it wasn't uncomfortable, it was just like silly yeah, it's just like what is happening you're like what kind of three show, like comedy bit, am I doing?
Speaker 3:it's a parody of a three, yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, it felt like so and then after that it just like started going. And then he that's when he became his like porn director and just was like you come over here and do this and you guys do this, and but not in like a mean way or like yeah, it wasn't like super, like it wasn't harsh, it just was like, yeah, he was just so into it and was like, okay, now I want this to happen.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you guys do this and I'm gonna do this, and we're like all right, so we were just doing all eventually you just look over, he's just naked yeah, oh, yeah, like immediately yeah, I started like pretty quick, but yeah, and then everything just took place on the couch, which was like fine, and then that was it it kind of to it oh so like okay, so then things were going.
Speaker 1:And then he, like after like a while I mean it had been like a while things were going on and then he it was like he wanted to take a break.
Speaker 3:It was like he kind of he cummed or didn't cum yet he didn't.
Speaker 1:Okay, he did not. And so then it was like he kind of like slowly, because like she was like on top of him, and then he kind of slowly like got her like off of him and then just was like, well, you guys, do you guys want water? Or like he was just going to like get up and leave the room for a minute, and so I was like what? And then he comes back and he's just like talking, we're all naked and he's just like sits on the couch and just wants to like now he wants to talk. I'm like, now you want to talk and we're all just sitting here naked.
Speaker 3:I thought you're gonna eat my pussy. What's happening?
Speaker 1:come on what I mean he did. Like there was all the things had already like happened right and had and had been a while, but like I thought we were fucking Sick your penis in me.
Speaker 3:What are we doing? I know it's like he needed a break. Okay, he needed a little break. He didn't want to come so fast Not so fast, but he didn't want to come yet.
Speaker 1:Like he didn't want it to be done.
Speaker 3:You don't want the night to be over of things do you have? What kind of conversations do you have? Like sitting there naked like sexy conversations, or just totally regular? How's your job?
Speaker 1:yeah, he's just hella regular, just so regular. That's why it was weird that we were and you're like I mean, can you get me a rope? Yeah, he just wants us to sit there. No, it was just so. What a weird guy. And surprisingly like, I didn't really feel that weird though sitting there, being naked, having regular conversation. I just always think it's so weird when guys are sitting there regular having this conversation and now your penis is just flaccid and it's just like it is over there, just so sad, because I look the same and I still look at you and you're just like you just have like this wrinkly thing in between your legs right now yeah, it's like I don't want to look at it, but it's like when guys are trying not to look at your boobs it's like I'm trying not to look at your saggy penis right now.
Speaker 3:Yeah, so that's what I think is silly because it would be even sillier if he was just rock hard too he's like you love your work. Oh yeah, I just like yeah, just kind of bouncing. No they kind of bounce a little bit yeah sometimes, and so you're just like yeah so distracting yeah yeah, my, I made a hundred thousand dollars this month oh, my god, I know why.
Speaker 1:It was just weird. And then like, yeah, so then like things started up, he started it all up again. So we're just doing all this stuff and then some of the stuff it was like. It was like he mostly just wanted us to make out, me and her. His thing was it was two girls, yeah, but he's like he didn't even really care about us like eating each other out or anything, like we didn't even do that. He wanted to eat us out and fuck us and whatever, but then like he would just be like you guys make out and then touch each other's boobs and stuff, like he just it was just like okay, whatever it was, I don't know, it was just kind of silly with him yeah, that is really funny.
Speaker 3:I you know I told you I've been listening to this swingers podcast. I know I gotta listen to it. Well, here's the problem that I have with the podcast they repeat themselves a lot. We probably do that too, but like you'll say something and then it'll be like if you were to say this thing and then ask me what I think about the thing, and then I say exactly, and then you recap what we both just said so it's's three times.
Speaker 1:I can't with that.
Speaker 3:So they kind of do that. So it's diaries of a swinging couple or a swinger couple, I can't remember what it is Okay, exactly. So they were talking about how like they have. I mean, they do a lot of different things. They go to, like parties, sex clubs. I want to do that, all these things right. I really want to go to a sex club too. I know drew was like just go with brianna because I was thinking, can we just go?
Speaker 1:and I was like, babe, I want to go and he's like I'm not going there.
Speaker 3:I was like, yeah, I just want to look. Yeah, you and I aren't going to do anything, I'm not going to have you could just go. And he's like I don't, I don't just need to go somewhere, I just there's jalapenos, that is what you know. I know, okay, fine, and was like you can go with Brianna, yeah, yeah, so girls can just go. It's research for our podcast.
Speaker 1:Yeah, we're going to have clipboards or we have little recorders and I'm like so there's a foursome going on in the little corner here, yeah, just like taking down notes. Yeah, we're just going to ask people questions. Oh, with our little microphones. Oh, my god, on a vibrator.
Speaker 3:We should. Maybe we should go to one of those sex expos Sex expos, yeah where they have like all the toys, all the people, all the things I do, and I should go. Yeah, oh, yeah, they do Okay. We should go, let's go yeah, okay, so anyways. I mean, here's the thing, why can't I find?
Speaker 2:and learn some new tips and tricks for my bedroom do that, I have to do it with another person no right anyway.
Speaker 1:So they were talking about it. So they talk about like I mean, they talk about some wild shit, like not wild, just like not my normal, you know.
Speaker 3:So I just find it so it's not vanilla stuff, uh-huh like. One thing they talked about was like they went to that, uh, one of those places in cabo where like it's like temptations oh yeah, that's the one but they're like that's not really a sex one, it's like temptations. Oh yeah, that's the one.
Speaker 3:But they're like that's not really a sex one, it's just like an all adult one, you know. So then they have like their pineapple cups, and then they find people that are also swingers and then they might do stuff with them. They also like there's this topless like boat yacht thing in Cabo and you, you're just all naked, and so they do this topless one, but're like I mean the, the host, that's like hosting this yacht party. They're like you're drinking from the beginning to the end, and so they make you take your top off, basically like. They'll like like start dogging you if you don't, why did you come on this? Blah, blah. And everyone's like yeah, why did you come on this if you weren't gonna take your top off, you know? And they like take your stuff away from you. So, like one of the tips that they've seen online is that like bring an extra like shirt so that when you have to get off the boat, you actually have your bathing suit, or top. Oh yeah, what the fuck.
Speaker 3:Yeah. So it's like shit like that. So they said, like on that boat specifically, it's not like swingers or anything, they're like people are just like sucking dick in front of the boat, fucking in the middle of the boat, like they're like like there's just shit everywhere. I'm just like that's fucking wild. That is right. That's a little bit more wild. You're just out. So I mean, but if that's your lifestyle, that's your lifestyle, right. So you talk about how they went to this house. When they went to, they go to this one holiday house party and the wife. So he really like he's like a cuck, like he really likes to like watch his wife do things with other guys, um, and so he was like, oh, go, get so-and-so so you could suck their dick or whatever. And then, like their story was like she ran upstairs and was like guess, what I just did and he was like what?
Speaker 3:and then she shows him and she's like two dicks in her mouth like at the same time. Like that's like the type of shit like they like to do, you know, and stuff like that. It's so funny so that he talked about kind of his first like bi experience. Like he isn't bi, he doesn't like want to really do that stuff, but he is open to being there with a guy that is bi. Like he talks about how, like, just because the other guys bi, if I set my boundary, like I don't want to do anything, that should be okay. Yeah, like I think he's like.
Speaker 3:I think, like in the lifestyle you know, they like to call it or whatever that like a lot of people don't want to say they're bi, because then the guy is like, oh, I'm not fucking with that guy but the person that is bi is like I don't need to fuck you.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you know, I'm just saying like that's an option for me, you know. So he talks about the first time. The guy like looked over him and he was like can I jack you off? And so they're like kissing on the floor and they're just like jackie just standing. They're standing, no, like like jack, and the wife looks over. She's like it's kind of weird, like this, watch you guys. Just like jackie, so he tells the story.
Speaker 3:And then he was like that was fine. He was like so I think he that was like his one and only like he's like I don't really dig this, yeah. And then the guy had asked him like can I suck your dick? And he was like, okay, like I'm just gonna be open, I'm gonna try it one time. So he did that and he was like you know, just like everything on a girl is kind of soft, all right. And he was like and I can feel his beard on my pelvis, oh my God, I just it just and his hair was short to grab and he was like it just isn't my preference. And so he was like I just didn't. And he was like and that was it for me and he was like but it is funny hearing these different experiences, especially when people like are really deep and they have done so many things in this kind of like thing.
Speaker 1:It really deep and they have done so many things in this kind of like thing. It's like god damn, I know I feel like I. It's like I I enjoy being single and being able to just decide what things I want to participate in or not on my own. But then it also sometimes feel like it would be kind of fun to like be dating someone who also wants to be in this lifestyle, just like it's like I want to just try it out.
Speaker 1:I don't know that it's something I want to like permanently be a part of, or that I want to be like this polyamorous person or whatever like, but I just want to like try some stuff.
Speaker 3:Try some new fun stuff. Yeah, yeah, I was thinking about that too. Like, oh, if drew and I ever went to canc, it was cancun. Like will we do this like a topless thing, and I'm like I don't know, though, like if I really like I get it, like so those environments are to get you there and kind of like the foreplay of like your sex. Like I mean, she said people were having sex and sucking dick, though right, yeah, it's not necessarily like they're all sucking each other's dick, right, or they're like I don't think I don't know if some of them were like swinging or whatever.
Speaker 1:Oh it's like it's like some people, their kink is just like doing shit. It like it's like a voyeur thing yeah, the voyeur. And so they just want to. They like to. Just they either like to watch or they like to be watched. That's where some like I don't like that, I don't know that, I want someone to watch me and so. So that's the part that I go, ooh.
Speaker 3:So when my Because that's a kind of part of like that's a part of the whole thing. Yeah, I would say even like just having a threesome. It's like the third person's watching.
Speaker 1:They're watching.
Speaker 3:Those two people are kind of watching you. Yeah, yeah, yeah, remember, like.
Speaker 1:I was saying before, like and I don't, I don't, that's not my favorite, like I just want to be in the moment and be like enjoying this experience and not be thinking like, oh, these people are watching me or whatever, and so it's kind of weird. But yeah, like Mr Monday when we were talking about going to the sex club and stuff and that like he likes to be watched and I mean I know his ass would put on a show.
Speaker 3:And so I'm like, oh, my god, I don't know. I think I like both, I like to watch and I like I. It's not that I enjoy being watched. I don't give a shit like it, doesn't I it? I can completely tune that out. So I would think like, okay, this looks okay. I mean this must, and I maybe because I think of more like what's going on situationally with drew and I, as far as like in these positions and stuff is like, yeah, I'm sure it does look good with this, like you know, black man, that's like muscly on top of this girl, or like fucking this girl, like I'm sure it looks appealing, like I'm sure it looks good, and I I think about, I think I think about it that way too.
Speaker 3:Yeah, um, and so I'm just like, yeah, I mean, people can watch this.
Speaker 3:I don't give a fuck that's why I've always said like we should be on only spans because, like, I don't care, yeah, I don't care if people watch this, I don't care if it's out there, like that. If you want to see it and you want to pay us, sure, I'll fucking put it out there. Yeah, because doesn Cause, doesn't Bob? None of that like bothers me. I, which is funny, because I don't really like to do. I get embarrassed doing performances Like I'm not doing dance performance Right.
Speaker 3:But I didn't know. I feel so much better when Drew's with me all the time. I feel so comfortable in that situation that I'll have fucking sex wherever I don't give a fuck, people can watch us, people can watch us. That's why I'm like, yeah, let's go to the sex club, we can go have sex there, let people watch. Yeah, I don't want them to touch you or me, but like we can like put on a show, dang. Let's do it Scary.
Speaker 3:I know I don't know, it's like kind of scary to me, but then I also feel like I just't even think about it whatever. And then if people like compliment you later about it, like oh, I really like how you were, like whatever, and then you'll feel more comfortable, I think, in those situations.
Speaker 1:Yeah for sure, yeah yeah okay, let's go to sex club? Yeah, I want to go. I've been researching the ones in san francisco and I've been asking around. I've been asking around, especially with the people that I know who have gone to them or, um, who are like swingers and stuff so the thing too.
Speaker 3:They one of their questions in the beginning of their show on the swinger podcast. They said, like people are like can you just go to these sex clubs? So then they talked about some of the rules. Right, some of the rules are like, you got to be naked okay, well, not the one, not the one that you have to wear a towel.
Speaker 3:It depends. It depends they're like. It just depends on where you go, so they're like. You should find out the rules first, because if you're the type that doesn't want to go and just have a towel on right and they're like some of them you have to be like. The girls are required to be in lingerie yeah, the whole time.
Speaker 3:Some of the girls you know they're like don't expect to just go there. You're fully clothed and all these people are naked. You know, depending on the rules of the sex club, they're like. So you really need to find out and figure out like is this going to?
Speaker 1:be the right one for you If you're just going to watch or what, or you don't have, you don't know all the rooms, what everything looks like, which I feel like better about that, like I just need to know in advance yeah, me too it doesn't feel so scary yeah, it brings your anxiety down a little bit about it and they have all the rules listed and this one seems pretty chill.
Speaker 1:that's like as far as like dress code and stuff. They're like you could wear whatever you want, obviously like dress to impress and like you. And like you can wear like, if you want to come in like lingerie or whatever, or if you just want to come in regular clothes, you could do whatever and you don't have to participate in anything you don't want to. But also like, if that's the situation too, you can't really just be going in like the private rooms, like there's like big rooms where people could be doing stuff Right, could be doing stuff right.
Speaker 1:It's like obviously that's fine if you're there and you're watching or whatever. But then like if people go in these private rooms like you can't just like go in there whether you're dressed or not, like you have to be like invited in yeah, yeah, yeah, just to watch or not watch, or whatever yeah yeah, because that would be weird.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I'm just following people like that's creepers right like I'm coming with you. You just got your drink. You're just watching in the corner like you're creeper. That's fucking, that's so weird.
Speaker 1:Yeah, well, I mean it's just like regular, it's just like you were, and this one's more like they. They try to make it more like it's a club because people will dance. It's just like a regular kind of like club, but then people are fucking around too, and yeah, that's what. And so, mr monday, he has gone to that one, and so that's why I feel better about it too, because he's already been there and he's like this how it goes and you don't have to do anything if you don't want to, and like it's just regular, like etiquette that you would anywhere, that you go. Like if you go up and you talk to someone and they're not interested, then fuck off, like don't just keep trying to talk to them or do stuff. You can't just go up and like start doing shit with people just because it's a sex club, right, like you're not grabbing people by their pussy. It's consent is still a thing you know, right? Yeah, so it's just like.
Speaker 3:I just really want to go I really wish there was just like a observation deck yeah, like you have a bracelet on or something glowing I'm just watching yeah, just watching yours is just like blue if you're just watching, so that you don't like.
Speaker 3:Also not that people would, but I think people do. Those like come talk to you because they're interested, yes, but I just my thing too is like I don't want to talk to anyone, like I do, but I don't want to talk to you like you're interested in me, like I want to talk to you, like I'm interested in what you're doing with that person. Yeah, not like you's asking me, like hey, so, yeah, you know, like they're interested. I want it to be more like oh, yeah, oh, so do you come here a lot, do you? Do you know? And it's just very platonic. Yeah, I think, because, like I had said something, I had the podcast on and Drew's like are you trying to ruin our relationship? Mm-hmm, like, like by like doing some like weird shit, like what's going on here?
Speaker 3:And I was like no, I just really want to see like what people are doing in life. Like what you know, I'm interested, like I think it's, it's like just such different than I would do, so I think it's cool or whatever. And so, yeah, I wish you could just go and no one really like, you're just like no, and you can't say like I'm married, people are married, yeah, everyone's married.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm like in a closed relationship.
Speaker 3:Yeah, it's closed.
Speaker 1:We're closed, yeah, we're closed, just like my bubble.
Speaker 3:Yeah, everything's closed here. You know, I have to wear a shirt that says something you know. Just here to watch. Yeah, just here to watch you get fucked, yeah, yeah, without being like a creep, so.
Speaker 1:I think that's kind of tough. It is tough and that's what he told me when we talked about going. He was like here's the thing, I'm okay with going with you and we don't have to do anything like we'll only do whatever you're comfortable with, whatever, and he's like, but you just have to be prepared that people are gonna come up and talk to you, right, and there are, they are gonna be interested, and so you just have to like already be prepared with, like, what you're going to say. If you don't want to like feel awkward, I'm just here to watch, I'm just here, here's like.
Speaker 1:I know, and because I told him too, I said the thing is like you already have gone, like you do, and you are comfortable doing this. So I, while I want to go with you and like maybe I don't want to do anything, I don't want to hold you back. If you want to go do something with somebody, go for it. Like I don't want you to feel it if I'm just like look, I don't, I don't really want to, I don't want you to feel like you have to like hang out and like baby, right, right.
Speaker 1:So that's the thing too, but it's such a weird thing. But then also, if he does go off and do something, then I'm just by myself roaming around, which is gonna be even harder because it's definitely more people are gonna come up to a see a woman yeah, then one with the guy mm guy so we just have to be prepared.
Speaker 3:Yeah, you just have. These places should have bracelets, but I think these places are also are not trying to invite people in.
Speaker 1:That aren't really trying to do things and they and I think the problem too, if you did have a bracelet going in is like I think the thing with a lot of these places is they just want to provide a space where people are really open-minded. Yeah. And so it's like you don't want to go in already deciding like I'm not doing anything or I am doing this, or it's just like come in, just meet people, have a fun time.
Speaker 3:If something happens organically, then that's fine, but I know, yeah, it's a toughie but I know, yeah, it's a toughie, yeah, yeah, I wish drew would just go with me to these places to protect me and just let me watch, I know.
Speaker 1:So I was talking to this guy which I talked about earlier, um, the guy from san jose and he was, so we saw each other the other day and earlier that day he was like at this pool party, which I was like pool party, how old are you? And so like what kind of pool? Is it like a spring break pool party or what Not? The spring break? Yeah, it's a college one. I mean, he's only 25, so I was like that's pretty young. Yeah, he probably is a spring break college party.
Speaker 1:And so then he, he was like yeah, so actually it was like this community of like people in the lifestyle and they have these events. And he's like do you know what a munch is? And I was like no. And he's like so people in the lifestyle, they like have these events where they're non-sexual events and it's just for people to meet each other and socialize and there's no pressure, and it's like there's no sex happening at this thing, and so that's what like a munch is, feels like a very safe space for people in the beginning.
Speaker 1:Yes, like I just want to come.
Speaker 1:You just want to meet people and kind of like, do a little vibe check with people, just like when, like I go to you know drinks with someone before I just like go have sex with them.
Speaker 1:You know, it's kind of like that like just come together and you have this, and it's also so you can make friends, it like. Because the thing is like, if you, a lot of this stuff is kind of on the down low right like people don't really know who's doing stuff and who isn't, and so it's like you can meet other people who are doing these kind of like things that you are, and so you don't feel like because you know, obviously, if you have friends or family members or whatever who wouldn't approve of like what you're doing in the life that you want to live, it's. It's the same thing as, like, I guess, if you were to go to an event that was specifically for, like, the LGBTQ plus community, where it's like let's just meet friends. It's just about like meeting people who you know have similar whatever interests life, and it's like these are people I know are not going to judge me and I could just like make friends here. So that's what that was.
Speaker 3:So that you know, now I'm thinking about this and how these lifestyles have built such a community as far as being a married person and then just having a regular, a straight married um, straight married person, and as far as just having like a regular sexual married life. You know, um, there's not really a community for people to like I don't want to say like I mean I don't know how I'm trying to say this but just like a safe space where you talk about these things, like yeah, I mean separately, like I talked to my friends about it but and like you know, true, could talk to his boys about it, but I know they don't talk about that like I know, that's their type of friend group.
Speaker 3:They don't talk about like having sex with their wives or whatever, but like if there was like places where couples they talk openly about like their sexual things with, like their partners I see what you're saying.
Speaker 1:just like like their regular sex life, yeah.
Speaker 3:Like tips and tricks, like we're here, we like it's like that's your hobby having sex. So then, like we're around, like-minded people and like what we do and just like, oh like. And also, as we're getting older, it could be like some men like they can't get hard or something, and then he's like like you don't want to talk to your friends about that, but maybe there's just this guy that becomes your friend. You're like, oh yeah, this is what I did or this is what we do in those situations.
Speaker 1:or you know, it's like we are kind of alone in these like situations as far as like keeping things spicy or having to like you know, research on our own and stuff, it's not like really a big community of like people but I think the difference is like those type of conversations can happen with anybody and it's not necessarily like something that you're like worried, really people would like judge you, or and so it's like I feel like these communities that we see of like uh, like I don't know what I'm saying like the, a smaller population of people that lifestyle river.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah um, where they like create these little communities because they feel like they don't have like a lot of people to connect with and maybe they are worried about people judging them or whatever, whereas like the regular straight, like vanilla person is just like doesn't really have those. I don't want to say like problems, but you know what? I mean, and so it's like. So there's no like. There's no feel. There's no like need to feel like.
Speaker 3:Oh, I need to make this but I think that that's what I'm saying is like to be more adventurous or to be like more like we don't have just these vanilla like. For example, if I was really serious about like this butthole thing, right, and then we had like friends that talked about it and then like drew's like talking to this, talked about it, and then like Drew's like talking to this guy and he's like, look, I know she's saying this. All right, fucking do it. You know, and this is what I did with this, my wife and this is what you know, and these things, and it's like Drew's just kind of on his own, like Tamika does not want me to do something crazy.
Speaker 3:I mean, I don't know what crazy it could even be with Drew, right? Or I just wanted to have like sex in front of people or whatever yeah, yeah, and I was like this what I want to do, really yeah.
Speaker 3:And then it's just like I'm just kind of like, okay, this is what I want to do, but I'm not like these people did it, like let's hear their experience, right, how they did it, and like what they did and what they liked about it, and like let's like talk about it. You know, I'm saying like I think that, and especially not from like couple to couple, like yeah, it's like you talk to your girlfriends about it and then drew here later like, oh, this person did this or this person, but he's not like talking to like a real person you know and like you and him, and then all your friends that are couples are definitely not sitting around talking about it all together no, yeah, and if we are, it's like code words we're not really saying.
Speaker 3:Like you know, you're not having like a real conversation about it no, we're just kind of like it's it's more jokey, it's more you know, and not that it can't be jokey, but I'm just saying, like you know, as far as like straight married couples, we don't really have a place where we like sit in these groups and like talk about our real sex lives with other people when it's crazy, because if you have a problem, you could, you could go to your friends and talk about these problems with your friends or whatever, and we don't really do that in our sexual lives as married couples.
Speaker 3:Well, I think it just kind of maybe some do, and I just I just not in my group.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean, I don't think so, I don't. I think most people probably don't. Yeah, I think also too. It's just one of those things like sex just in general so taboo, yeah, and then so for us it's like what they want to say.
Speaker 3:Quote unquote normal yeah, Like you know people, and doing vanilla, like maybe that would encourage you to like spice it up because this other person said this, or whatever. Right, so I'm just like, yeah, it's kind of a weird thing.
Speaker 1:Well, and I wonder too if it's like you know, because let's say, there was like a group, Okay, like this munch thing.
Speaker 1:this guy was talking about like let's say it's like a little meetup and it's for like just straight, like couples, and it's just to like talk about what you're saying. It's like. Is that also not a thing? Because it like the perception to. Is that like, okay, now there's all these people, these couples, and they they're talking about sex stuff. Does it almost like invite people to like assume or think that you might be interested in doing stuff with them?
Speaker 3:that's what I was thinking too, yeah it's not like there's this.
Speaker 1:That's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:It doesn't feel like there is a place for that. I don't want to use the word like a safe place because, yeah, I feel like we we, as like straight people actually probably feel this have like the most the ability to feel the safest in these situations.
Speaker 3:I don't know, there isn't a common place for that, and so I am. I'm interested in like, just like when the girls say like they listen to our podcast and then they bring it to their husband and it's like it's become normalized talking about it. But like they listen to our podcast and then they bring it to their husband and it's like it becomes normalized talking about it. But like there isn't, like. I mean, I keep saying the same thing.
Speaker 1:Like there isn't a place for couples to do that. Maybe you should make one.
Speaker 3:Okay, and it might be that your spouse is uncomfortable Like I'll say whatever. I don't know if Drew would say whatever and maybe if it was an environment where everyone's saying whatever yes, but like drew, I know he doesn't talk to his boys about like whatever we're doing and stuff, so maybe that would be different.
Speaker 1:Amongst other like-minded like they just want to have like really, really great sexy time with their yeah you know partners in the bedroom like open discussion about all the things in like a super casual environment where it's also like we're hanging out like this pool party, or it's like everyone just like kind of drinking, swimming, eating, hanging out. It's like a barbecue yeah. Barbecue with a side of six yourselves.
Speaker 3:Yeah, yeah.
Speaker 1:Hmm, maybe that's what we're going to have yeah.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I mean, even if it were, I wonder, even if it was like an online community or something that could be, and then you put out like a weekly sex challenge and then everyone like tries it if they want or like yeah, give us feedback, yeah and then you can just do like meetups if you want, like, oh, you're talking about these things and stuff and you just like really open.
Speaker 3:I think that's the thing too is like in these marriages, like I think that's what I find so interesting about the lifestyle is them just being so open with their sexuality that I just kind of appreciate that and just being like we're human, this is what we're doing. We're just trying to and I know there's like horrible things that happen like within that but like we're human, this is what we're doing. We're just trying to and I know there's like horrible things that happen like within that but like we're just trying to get the most out of life. And that's all I'm saying too for us that are married and whatever. Like why can't we like have the most? But I think that goes with interaction with other people and kind of learning from other people's experiences.
Speaker 1:You know for sure, yeah, I agree and, like I said, I other people's experiences you know For sure. Yeah, I agree. And, like I said, I think it's just the whole, like how, somehow in 2025, sex is still pretty taboo, right?
Speaker 3:To like talk about.
Speaker 1:It's just so fucking ridiculous. And I do, and I think that is the thing too, that I also kind of like appreciated once I got on like this app. That was kind of, for I hate saying we keep saying lifestyle.
Speaker 3:it is so weird, but it's funny, yeah, because drew's like, why not to call? It that I know like was listening to the podcast. It's like why they have to call it the lifestyle. I don't like yeah, I said that earlier in this episode too I think like, yeah, the lifestyle it's the lifestyle say that I know and it's like for real, for real, their bio. They'll be like 10 years in the ls lifestyle I'm in this lifestyle too, just like a regular maximalist lifestyle like what yeah, what like?
Speaker 1:it's just like such a and then they just have to keep saying it. I know, but anyways, so yeah, I could see how it's easier we picked it up pretty quickly. Yeah, like I was saying it, you know that's why I just appreciate like they'll people will be super open in their bios okay, so it's very different from like, for example, in um.
Speaker 1:If I'm on like a regular dating app, like if I'm on bumble, okay, everyone's bio. Like, no one's talking about sex on their bio no, obviously. And and it's different because you're going into it like you want a real relationship. Typically, people on there usually want like most people on there I would say want a monogamous relationship, not like hookups or whatever anyway. So they're not really saying stuff like that. But then even when you're having conversations with these people and you're like, oh, what are you looking for in a partner? And we're not really ever saying like like. You're saying like, oh, I want this person to be trustworthy and I want them to la-la-la, but you're not saying like I want them to fuck me.
Speaker 3:You're not really saying I want to like have hot spicy sex with my partner every night or every other night or whatever. Really You're not saying like I want someone who like will help me to to explore my sexuality and like, because it's like.
Speaker 3:Oh, I probably shouldn't say that because I'm gonna sound slutty yeah, and I think too, like encouraging that, like I understand, like we have our past traumas that like kind of keep us from like exploring that or having to overcome these things.
Speaker 3:But maybe then when you talk to someone and they're like, you know, that's what happened with my wife and I too, like she or him, have like this past trauma, that these were the things that was happening, and so you know, that kind of like made our sex life kind of just like boring or whatever. And then these are the things that we tried, or this is the therapist that we went to, or you know, this is how we overcame it. Like no one talks about that shit openly and it's always just like this thing oh, they're going to therapy because they're she doesn't want to have sex with him. Or you know, maybe I don't want to say this, but like, oh, he cheated on her because she this and this and, like you know, all these things and it's just like, but we should just be talking about this like it's just normal life.
Speaker 1:I know, and that is what I like about like this app. People will just say like, yeah, I mean the thing is, yes, it is a very sex forward app and so it there is a difference, but there is a lot of people on there who are actually looking for relationships yeah, or they're just open to both, like me, like I go on there and go, and the very first thing it says is like ultimately looking for a long-term relationship if the stars align.
Speaker 1:However, like open to other casual connections, but then like and I used to have my bio was very like, just like kind of boring, you know. It's just like a little bit about me and like I'm a mom and a business owner and la la la, just like I would have on like any other. But then it's like the longer I've been on there and I'm reading all these people's bios, I mean they're just saying, and they're people are saying explicitly this is what I'm looking for, even if they're saying like I want a relationship. They're like I want a person who's this, this and this, but then also is all these things like behind closed doors and like this is the stuff that I'm into. Because if you really think about it, it's like the person that you're going to be in a relationship with or that you want to be in a relationship with. It's like you can't just align on everything else in your life and then be so misaligned in your sex life. That's not going to work.
Speaker 3:Yeah, and I think too that sometimes girls need a little bit of encouragement on like saying what we want and like all that kind of stuff and saying like what pleasures us. I mean, we keep talking about this, but if we were able just to say that or kind of express that to our partner by like other people encouraging us or like saying like this is what I did, yeah, that would be helpful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I mean I went and I added on my bio. I did add almost like a little. I put here are just a handful of things I'm interested in exploring. And then I put like a little list and I just put like Straightforward, just exactly what I want.
Speaker 1:And you know, at first it's like I didn't really want to say that because I was like same thing. You go, I don't know if I want to come off like whatever or like I don't want to put this stuff, because if someone's like wants to, you know, swipe on me. But then like they don't want to do that stuff. But it's like well, then why do I even want them to swipe? I don't want to connect with anyone unless they want to do these things too. And so I mean I put on there. I mean I put that like I want to do the threesome with two guys, but the and worship and all this stuff. And now I just be getting messages. Guys are like oh my god, that is exactly what I want to do with you. And I'm like perfect, that's exactly what. Yeah, I don't want these guys who are just like so about themselves and you also don't tie me up with your ropes and you want me to like choke on your dick and stuff like I'm not really into any of that. Can we talk?
Speaker 3:about, um, all right, are our dick sucking injuries that we both got, like after 40 years and after 37 years? You, you said this what it was a few weeks ago. Okay, so I didn't. I didn't say this on the podcast, but oh, you didn't. No, I don't think so, I don't think I did. Okay, okay, I don't think I did. It wasn't a cold sore, it was like I was sucking Drew's dick and then, right after I was like, or maybe the day after, I was like damn, there's like a cut on my lip underneath here On your top lip, yeah, on my top lip, in the right corner. I was like why do I have this cut? And it wasn't like a canker sore and I looked at it and it was just like cut it all, cut up. And it was like right where my teeth are. And I was like man, I was going to town on that dick and I must have injured myself sucking this dick so hard.
Speaker 3:And I told you about it and like what, and I was like there's no fucking way going hard like trying to get that poison to come out, like all this stuff, and you're like, oh my god, it's like I didn't really believe you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I was like what?
Speaker 3:and I had told you I was like this has never happened before yeah, I'm like how would that never happen? And now, yeah, like, all of a sudden happened like I don't just get that, you know whatever. So then what? What did you tell me two days ago?
Speaker 1:so yeah, so then that guy, that guy from san jose yeah, I was, you know, with him and same thing. Just just suck at the dick, apparently so hard, and I start, I'm like god damn my top lip. I was like it's like getting raw. Yeah, I heard it and I was like what's happening? And then I realized I was like, oh, my god, it's because your liver, like over your teeth, like that it's gone and my tooth was like cutting into my fucking lip and afterwards I'm like like with my tongue feeling it same thing.
Speaker 1:I look at it, it's like a cut and I was like, oh my god, I got the Tamika cut yeah, my lip so.
Speaker 3:I told you about it. I was like guess what I got. Yeah, I can't believe it. Time, why are we never doing it so hard all of a sudden?
Speaker 1:I don't know. I don't know if we just wanted it to be over, or what yeah, we're just like oh also, I think that time I'm pretty, so I let him take a video with my face, that time scary. So I think I was trying to do a really good job because I was on video, you were performing, I was doing a performance yeah, I was doing a performance.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't know. And I I try to think back and like was I sitting in a different position? Was I laying in a different position when I was like, like, was my mouth positioned differently on his like dick to?
Speaker 1:see like how I.
Speaker 3:But I can't remember, like I can't remember what it was, so I don't really remember. Like, was I underneath him, was I sideways, what was I doing and how I was doing it, because you know you, yeah, you could suck it different ways. I was gonna say tell me your preferred dick sucking position preferred you know I prefer to the side because I feel like I can get it in my throat a little bit more. Yeah, I think he did tell me, but drew prefers me underneath him. So what do you mean?
Speaker 3:like, just like in between his legs yeah, or like kneeling or whatever like he prefers from you know, the down angle and I prefer like if I'm like he's laying down and then I'm like my knees are at his waist, and then I'm like I'm set, I'm bobbing that way but he prefers me yeah.
Speaker 3:I'm bobbing that way, but he prefers me in between his legs. First of all he can get a better view of me. Yeah, because he can see everything. And then, um, but I don't know why, I feel like I can get it in further from the side. But the other day, man, he got me. Good, no, and then I do sometimes think that that's not sexy. But because you like gag a little, I did a little yeah, and then he didn't care.
Speaker 2:No, they don't give a fuck yeah, as long as you're not throwing up yeah, he's just like.
Speaker 1:Some guys prefer it. They want you to gag because then they feel like their dick so big it's making you gag, yeah, I mean, I don't think drew's like that.
Speaker 3:so you know, because he doesn't want to hurt me and stuff, but he doesn't say anything. I think he's just like keep going, hurry up. Because I feel like if I was, he's eating my pussy and he, well, that's different, that's different, yeah, yeah, but I don't know. And so I was just like, or if he came up and he was like you're like, god damn, take a breath down there, what's happening? You know, yeah, so I did a little gag the other day and I was like, and then you know, it happened, it gagged me and then the next day I had a sore throat. Oh no, I had another injury. I had another injury. No, it like hit the back and I was like why is it kind of hurt? Am I getting sick? And I, I've had, I've done that. Yeah.
Speaker 3:And so it did a little injury and then, yeah, the day after it was like, or like maybe two days after, it was like, okay, it's not sore anymore. Yeah, that's happened to me quite a few.
Speaker 1:I mean I do God damn that dick's hurting me lately. I do have big tonsils, so yeah. It just jams them a little bit. Yeah, I. So it depends on what I'm going for, Okay, so usually if this is the first time I'm sucking their dick or whatever I'll be like I want them to just be like laying on the bed and then I'm like in between their legs. But then I like to be like.
Speaker 1:It's like I'm on my, almost like on my elbows, but then my knees are propped up, so like my butt's in the air, and so then it's like they could like see my butt kind of and you're like I'll kind of like go a little bit to the side. You know, it's like boudoir pose. I'm like a little to the side.
Speaker 1:I'm like trying to do all these little poses yeah and then I feel like they're just like oh my god, because then they can like see your whole body, kind of, and whatever. But then in that position I feel like I'm limited motion, wise right, and you're like your weight is kind of on your like elbows.
Speaker 1:I can maybe go on one, but that so I can use my other hand for the other thing, whatever. Or, like you said, like I want them to be sitting. I think it's better to me if they're like sitting and then I'm on the floor and then then you have both your hands free too. You can just do other stuff with your other, your other hand or whatever. Yeah, I don't really love it when they're standing. It depends it. I don't know why. I don't like that dominant. I feel like I don't. I don't like you to be standing over me like that yeah, you know, the other day it was a standing one.
Speaker 3:You know I, you and I have different kind of things and I actually really liked the standing drew. I don't think prefers that. I think he prefers to like be a little king with his like hands behind his back. You know just the whole. No, not the king like this. You know the hands behind the head and stuff and just like, all right, bitch, get on there. Yeah, but he never. Yeah, he would never say that to me.
Speaker 3:But you know, that's hilarious yeah, I think that's his like preference, like because he always goes. Why do I have to do the work if you're you know?
Speaker 3:like he doesn't even really like to hold my head or anything. He wants me to just like do the, do the work. You know that's his preference. So I kind of like the um the standing because I like to be able to like rub his legs. Yeah, I kind of like that where I feel like when you're on your knees in between them, like on the bed, you're not really rubbing their legs as much and so it's like I'm on my, and you know I'm smaller and so like yeah I'm able to do that and I think that I like that.
Speaker 3:He it's not hit, probably a preference for him. He probably doesn't give a shit, yeah, but I feel like I just have more ability to move in the. Just on my knees I'm able to use everything you know so it's kind of better.
Speaker 1:I feel like sometimes like I'll. If sometimes I'll do it depends on it depends on the guy. Mr monday, I'll, that's fine you're standing, whatever, and I think just because, like I don't know, I just like really trust him whatever but if it's like a newer guy or so I don't know, I'm just like don't, don't fucking stand over me like that. Yeah, I'll just you know, I'll just dump it right back on you yeah, the other day I did it in the shower and it was.
Speaker 3:I thought that was good. It wasn't, like you know, shower sex sucks. I don't like that but you know, sucking the dick in the shower it was fine. I thought was kind of hot. So I was like, oh, this is okay, and then you just spit out in the drain, that's perfect it's like the most perfect.
Speaker 3:I was like perfect, just do perfect. Oh, that's perfect, just do this every time. And then here and then you can rinse off and then like we're good, yeah. So actually that was really I was like, and I told him I was like I don't think I've actually sucked your dick to completion in the shower ever. Yeah, Maybe, that's a good idea, but I was like this is actually a perfect situation, so try that one.
Speaker 1:I'll try that one, I'll put it on my bio.
Speaker 3:And because they're standing in the shower this way and they're typically tall enough the water's not getting on you or anything. Oh yeah. So it would only be if it's reversed, like they make you be in the water, then I'm drowning and I have something in my.
Speaker 1:I'm not doing that no, I'm not gonna drown, yeah also. Uh, my least favorite is when they want a 69 and they want to be on the top. I'm like I don't want your butthole like in my face people ask you for them to be they don't ask, they just do it yeah first of all, drew would never.
Speaker 3:I'm trying to think these situations like they just get on top of you.
Speaker 1:They're just like yeah, and then they're just kind of like bouncing their dick like into your mouth. Yeah, they're fucking. That's what I don't really like that either.
Speaker 3:That's too. I think that would be too much for me, because, uh, I don't really want it that forceful. I don't either, because they are just moving their hips on you, which I mean, yeah, they're doing that when you're sucking, when you're sucking their dick in other, but you have a little bit more control when you're just underneath and then all their weight's on top of you. That feels a little bit scary to me. I don't like that, especially if it's not your typical partner Right, it's just like a first timer or something. They don't really know your boundaries and you're just like, oh, this is facial abuse.
Speaker 1:I don't like it. Let me tell you about when that couple. I was telling you that I had sex with just the husband. Mm-hmm. One thing that he did do that I thought was so weird, but also it was like everything else was so great, so I was like I'll let it slide. Okay, what.
Speaker 1:I mean because he was just doing all kinds of stuff, Like changing positions so fast, doing all this stuff, and then he just I can't even I don't even know what the fuck you're gonna say. Like I just can't even imagine I'm laying on my back, I'm laying on my back and you know, okay, imagine a reverse cowgirl pose. But he, but the guy, is on the top. Okay, so he did so. His butthole is facing me and he's just like just going to town, just up and down is this a?
Speaker 1:typical, just putting his dick in me and his butthole is just spread out in front of me like he's like almost like doing the splits I mean, here's the thing I really want to see drew's butthole.
Speaker 3:I've never seen it, which a lot of people tell me they have not seen their partner's butthole, no I don't, I don't think I would like to and I didn't want to see this here's the thing. I don't want to see it sexually, I just want to see it. One time I've been with you for every, I haven't seen every part of your body, that's so weird I couldn't even focus on what was going on.
Speaker 1:I was just staring at his butthole, like what. You're just putting your butthole at me like this was there hair in there?
Speaker 3:yeah, yeah, no, it better be waxed if you're gonna be sharing that thing with me I wasn't like, I wasn't really like grossed out, I just was like what the fuck?
Speaker 1:what's happening?
Speaker 3:okay, and then I was like so here's the thing, because I am very much like my personal preference is like I need a man's man, did it feel like he? Was writing gay, that's exactly. Did you feel like he was writing you?
Speaker 1:Yeah, like I was like that was the first time I questioned are you bi? Because what just like fully straight guy is just reverse cowgirling me and like open, like opening their butthole towards my face like that.
Speaker 3:I just felt like, and how long did it give you the ick or no?
Speaker 1:No, it didn't, but I was like a little weirded out. Yeah, it's like, here's the thing.
Speaker 3:I mean, if that's someone else's preference and they like that, do you think he wanted you to like touch his butthole? I don't know, but I didn't Like you think that his wife touches, like some guys I know it's weird, they like to put their little finger or they like a little lick or whatever. You think that that's what he was? Yeah, is that what he? You think he was going for? I don't know, I don't.
Speaker 1:you didn't talk about it no, no, okay, you were just I wasn't this the only time that this has happened and I was in shock. So you're telling me he was straddling you and okay, and I'm talking like you know I was, he's traveling you or who he was like squatting His legs were straight, he was doing a splits. I'm going to act it out right now. This is exactly. It was like this.
Speaker 3:It was like hold on, I don't, I can't. I need to get this video. Okay, ready, hold on, I don't, I can't. I need to get this video.
Speaker 1:Yeah, okay, ready you know I can't, okay, we're wearing this out. Okay Go, I'm not very flexible. Okay, it was like my hands over there.
Speaker 3:Okay and then here's a plan.
Speaker 1:You're the plant right there. Is there the plant behind you? Oh, my head over there, okay, and my legs are right over here, and he's like this and just like this, didn't, didn't it bow, butthole out so he was doing like a chippendales thing almost like twerking into my puss.
Speaker 1:Oh, but you didn't like it. Uh, I didn't. I didn't wish to do it again, that's for sure. I was so in shock. I was like but also I was in shock over a lot of things. This was early on. Yeah, it was just like a. But also I was in shock over a lot of things. This was early on. Yeah, it was just like a. It was, it was a. You were a beginner. This was my beginning stages. I was also in shock that this lady wanted me to fuck her husband. First of all. I was in shock that he wanted to have sex with me in their bed. Yeah.
Speaker 1:Um, also, I don't even know if I told you this he offered.
Speaker 3:don't even know if I told you this he offered, he like brought out all these sex toys, like her vibrators and stuff. Did those go in the dishwasher before I came, or what's happening? I mean, I guess we're gonna be sharing your dick, but Jesus, I don't know if we need to be.
Speaker 1:You don't have a weird thing with slits yeah, I don't know, and like it was just, like such, I was just. I feel like there was a lot of firsts for me that day. I was just really in shock, and so when the butthole came, I can't believe he was twerking on you, like that feels like a stripper move.
Speaker 1:It kind of was like I was shocked at, because he's just like a super regular looking guy. He's like a skater looking dude, like he literally skateboards. That's what he fucking does. Like he skateboards, he's a musician, he's what?
Speaker 3:like he just looks so regular and then he is just yeah, it was kind of like a little chip and dale's, that's what I'm saying, when you were doing it right now, it's like he just got on you, and so for me, I would be like, so that's, I don't know if it's better or not, but what I had pictured was his legs underneath him. Yeah, like doing a ride, you know, and I feel like that would have been almost less weird. Well, his butthole probably wouldn't have been open if he did that, but then I feel like you're just riding me, yeah, like like a girl. Yeah, and that's just not my preference.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if people want to do that, it's fine, but it's not my preference, I don't know. And then the thing that he was doing at the end that I was like I don't know, it just weirded. Like didn't weird me out in nearly as much as the Chippendales move, but like at the end he's like. He like wants to like fuck me from behind, okay, okay. I was like okay, great. Then he wants me to like put my legs together and just be like he just wants me to be laying on my stomach all the way with my legs like closed, yeah, and he's just like on top of me, like straddling like my butt you know what I'm saying.
Speaker 1:Then he goes and he grabs all my hair like this, and he and he's pulling my head back and then he's whispering in my ear with just like holding all my hair like this, and he's like you're gonna come back and fuck us, are you gonna keep coming back? Are you gonna fuck us? And I was like what, what? What do you mean? Sure, I haven't even had sex with your wife. Yeah, and he kept saying like he wanted me to just say like yeah, I mean yeah, I was like that and that's how he came was at the end, when he was just like tell me, you're going to come back and fuck us. And I was like, yeah, and he's like tell me. I was like, oh, my God, I'm going to come back and fuck you, I will, yeah. And then he was just like okay.
Speaker 3:First of all, don't make that noise. Okay, what's the craziest noise that you've heard?
Speaker 1:Or what's the craziest noise that you've heard, or what's the craziest things you've heard coming. You know, really there hasn't been any like too crazy. Actually, what I think is the weirdest, what I thought was the weirdest, was this one guy that I was kind of dating and it was almost just so every time he would come, it was so anticlimactic, he wouldn't say anything. No, it was anticlimactic, he wouldn't say anything. No, it was like the opposite, like I was used, I'm used to, like you can tell if, like, it's gonna happen. And it was like I literally it's like he would just get quiet and there was like no facial expression or anything, and then it would.
Speaker 1:I would literally have to be like are you done? Like did you come, or, and it was like yeah, I did, or like I'm coming, and then it would just be like done. And I told him I was like that he's just, I've never that's so weird. Like you have no expression, no, like there's no like excitement, you're just like and he wasn't lying because it's's like I mean, there was cum in there. So it's just fucking weird.
Speaker 3:That's what I thought was the most weird other than the guy who forced me to call him Poppy which I think that's probably going to be pretty normal, I know but the way it was just the way that it was and it was like, and he was the one that kept saying like how long do you want me to fuck you?
Speaker 1:and I was like forever all night yeah no, how long. And I was like what do you mean? Tell poppy, how long you? I was like why do you keep calling yourself poppy? Also, I don't know what you are asking me. Are you talking about poppy seeds? It's just weird. Yeah, and then one guy too. He didn't really make like a weird noise, but he would be like having a seizure no, just like shaking his legs. I was like, oh my god, it's like an earthquake yeah, he's really releasing everything yeah, I'm like, can you calm down?
Speaker 3:yeah, like I don't know if I'm like, do I want to look at Drew's face when he's coming? Like I don't know, like I'm just like, is it embarrassing?
Speaker 1:Yeah, am I going to feel weird?
Speaker 3:No Am I looking at his face and then like and I just think like I'm just going to laugh or something. Yeah, Because Drew's face is always like serious, yeah.
Speaker 3:He's sort of a serious guy, you know, and then he just like has whatever expression I don't know. I typically don't look because I just feel like it's such a, it's such an intimate moment. It's almost like it should be private moment, right, because you're just like I don't know, like you don't really know, like yourself, I think. I think, as much as we want to put on a show and stuff, it's like it's almost you don't have control of your body for a second. It's almost like you're just, especially if you want to enjoy the moment, right, like you're just like in it. I'm not sure what comes out Like, it's just like okay, here we go.
Speaker 1:And you know, some people probably do it better than other people. Yeah for sure. You know, it's just kind of like, oh, and I think about that, I think about all these ones I'm talking about and I, you know, and then it makes me think, like what they would say about me, you know, but also go fuck yourself.
Speaker 3:Yeah, I don't care. We have these conversations about like, oh, what's the weirdest, but it's also releases.
Speaker 1:yeah, like I thought it was funny but I'm not like, I'm not really like judging you right kind of like, yeah, it was kind of silly yeah yeah, yeah, except for the chippendale guy.
Speaker 3:I was judging a little bit on that one yeah, I mean, if that's, and that's why I wondered, like if he does that and because he split open his butthole like if he's trying to get you to put something in there could have been. I was, especially, if you're telling telling me that that's the only time that that has happened.
Speaker 1:Yeah, yeah, no well, that was the only time I had sex with him.
Speaker 3:No, like that's never happened with other guys.
Speaker 1:Oh no, never, that's what I'm saying.
Speaker 3:So that's not like a very typical thing. That happens, you know.
Speaker 1:But you know what I feel like I could see Mr Monday doing that, could see my mr monday doing that. I think I could, but I don't. We don't ever do anything with his butthole, so I don't know what that would be like. I don't know if that's what he would expect or he just his. Sometimes he is, he just like, puts on little shows sometimes we put on a show for you too.
Speaker 3:He likes yeah, but I think that's the thing is like. When that's just like normal and you feel safe in that kind of environment, you're just like all right, fuck it, do whatever you want. You want to be silly, like, let's be fucking silly, let's do whatever you want yeah yeah damn what a weird episode.
Speaker 1:Yeah it is. Yeah, it's just like sex talk. It's not really like yeah, and you know sometimes I always get worried that like I'm gonna say the wrong thing and like maybe be a little offensive or something unintentionally yeah me too. Um so, hopefully, hopefully we didn't offend anybody with anything, yeah, I think this, too, is like.
Speaker 3:We do a lot of generalizations. Well, yeah, we do a lot of like. This is just my opinion.
Speaker 3:This is not like should be the standard for anyone yeah this, you know, is just like my experience too and my preference, and I just think like, yeah, I mean everyone can have their own preference on what they like and what they don't like, and you know what they're willing to do. Um, and so even that like people are going to listen to this and probably judge you on, like, having a threesome or whatever, or like they could judge me on whatever it is like, and it's just like I mean, we're just sharing our lives and it's not serious too well, and I think the one thing I in particular, you know, sometimes I say things and then I can't stop thinking about it after.
Speaker 1:So one thing I said a little bit earlier that I just want to clarify because I have been thinking about it ever since it came out of my mouth, yeah, uh is when I was saying like we're saying like people in the lifestyle and they have these like little communities that they build, and I did compare it to like people in the LGBTQ plus community, and I don't mean that in like, like it's hard, because I feel like sometimes, like people who are identify as being like queer of any kind, it's like what?
Speaker 3:am I trying to say it's gonna be the sexual thing? Like, yeah, there's gonna be? Like, oh, these two gay guys, but people are, oh, they must just be like fucking everybody, yeah, I don't want my kids to see them like kissing everywhere. But they're just like normal, they're just going to hold hands, just like they're just normal like this. Yeah, I understand what you're saying Like smaller groups that don't necessarily have like have a community, a community of like straight what people want to say normal relationships, cause people like always talk about that.
Speaker 1:Yeah, exactly that's what I meant. It's like if you're someone who's like in the lifestyle, or you're someone who's like you know, gay or you're trans or you're what, all the like any of these things that are like much, much smaller populations of yeah, you're talking about population size, not like preference.
Speaker 1:No, and I'm saying like these are the people that, because there's just not as many people and because they are living a life that other people may judge them for, that's why they tend to like create communities and have like a little bit tighter bonds with people that you know and I think that that's why I was saying, like you know, we I don't know if even married people, just straight married people, they deserve a community because we have like we could talk about it anytime.
Speaker 1:But I noticed, like you, they don't well, and it's like something that I didn't want to say, this because, again, I don't know how, how offensive this is going to come off. So I'm just going to say it to me, like when we're talking about this and we're saying this, it's almost sounds like if we were talking about people of color and they have, you know, maybe they have their own communities or whatever and then we're saying like well there's nowhere for white people to have their place and it's kind of like okay, well, do you need one?
Speaker 1:or you know, it's kind of like it's similar to that in a little bit, where I'm like I totally get it, but I also feel like no, I think there's a reason that there's not, um, not that, not that those people don't need like a place to talk about it, but I think like maybe there isn't as much of a need and that's why there isn't.
Speaker 3:I think, though, what I'm saying is like I think there is a need for women though yes to and I think that we talk about this, where sex typically revolves so much around the man that because we don't have these talks in, uh, straight marriages, the women become isolated a little bit in these situations with like how they what they want and being able to explore without their partner kind of bringing it about. And I think that sometimes like, uh, if they did have a community of like what they wanted, maybe women would be able to like speak a little bit more openly about sex and what they want and being pleasured and stuff. And I guess that's where I'm coming from in these situations. And so, yeah, I totally agree. And I think too, like, if maybe there was like a community for, you know, straight married couples, maybe they would have a more understanding of why people want to do other things instead of just like being like.
Speaker 3:You guys are fucking weird and like all these things they'd be like yeah, I mean, I want to explore these things with my wife, maybe not necessarily to the same effect like you want to do it, but I can understand why, instead of being like no, you're hella weird that you just want your wife to fuck that guy you know, like you know, and so, yeah, I I don't want anyone to feel like I think we need sympathy of being like a straight married couple and like I'm like, well, where's my group?
Speaker 3:I'm just saying like I mean, sure, why can't I have a community around, like I want to like have better sex with my husband, and I want to be able to say it, and I want also other women to say it, so why can't we say it all together? Yeah, you know more um not being like a whiny person.
Speaker 1:No, yeah, yeah, yeah, and I totally agree, like I, and I do hope that, like, even just in the tiniest, tiniest, like when we're talking about this, of our 45 people that listen to it that people who listen to it do feel like they could talk more, like even just with their partner about this stuff that because we're talking about it.
Speaker 3:So in their therapy or whatever to like, to be able to just have the courage to bring these topics up. I mean, yeah, maybe not having a threesome I mean some people might want to but like just being able to like explore new things, yeah.
Speaker 1:Love it All right. Well, it's a weird one. This was a weird one, yeah, yeah. Well, let us know if you uh, I don't even know, I don't even know where to begin Let us know if you enjoyed this podcast. If you enjoyed this episode, let us know, shoot us a DM on our Instagram and any things you want us to talk about, or research or whatever, about some stuff.
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Speaker 1:Yeah, and we will see you guys next time.
Speaker 3:Hope you're having fun with your dicks. Titties up, dicks in the holes Ow.