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Maximalist Life
Ep 42 - Not Your Sweet Little Thing
Episode Summary:
We’re diving into the delicious contradiction of wanting to be worshipped for both our brains and our beauty — plus a little Netflix tea on The Hunting Wives and how it ties into today’s dating circus.
📺 The Hunting Wives is serving wild plot twists, bad wigs with the “Texas bend,” and scandalous sexual dynamics.
🧠 Being valued for more than your looks means finding partners who see your intelligence, ambition, and full personality.
💪 Even strong, dominant women crave partners who respect their power and offer genuine care and support.
💬 Deep convos over small talk — because connection needs more than “wyd?” texts.
👀 Reading the room isn’t just a business skill — it’s a dating survival tactic.
⚖️ Balancing fierce independence with moments of vulnerability is the ultimate tightrope walk.
❤️ The best relationships embrace duality — loving your strength while holding space for your softer side.
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all right this episode is. I want to be worshipped for my mind and my mouth dicking your mouth.
Speaker 2:We didn't do the intro last time. I just thought of that. I like it better welcome to maximalist life I am brianna I'm tamika and we're here to talk to you about mouth sucking. Mouth sucking, ew Mouth sucking.
Speaker 1:Yeah, hate that.
Speaker 2:Sucking on someone's mouth.
Speaker 1:Ew.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so first of all, first of all, first of all, the Hunting Wives on Netflix, let's talk about it, okay, well, here's the thing too.
Speaker 2:We have to remember to put these in order then if we're gonna be like hey, yeah, we will. Okay, cause I think we did it last time and I don't know if we put them in order. Oh, whatever, like we're like, okay, you talk about our like shroom strip and then like I don't know if we put that in order with the other one. Whoops, yeah, whatever. Here it out of order. Who cares the hunting wives?
Speaker 1:that's what it's called the hunting wives on netflix. What are your thoughts?
Speaker 2:so I, when you told me about it, I was like okay. And then you were like there's a lot of sex in it. I was like mm. Sometimes I don't like if there's a lot of sex, if it doesn't tell a story and it's just there just to be vulgar and just doesn't make sense for me. So that was the first thing. I looked it up on Rotten Tomatoes and it said 80% was. I was like, oh, pretty good, pretty Pretty good. We started watching it. So Drew and I watched it together.
Speaker 1:Okay.
Speaker 2:You know, because we don't really watch a lot of things together and so we started watching it and the first thing is oh my God. So I don't remember what her name is, but she's the sister from 27 Dresses, the main character, brittany.
Speaker 1:Snow or Malin Ackerman? Yeah that one.
Speaker 2:What's her name? In the show? It starts with an.
Speaker 1:M In the show. Yeah, the other one's Sophie.
Speaker 2:And it's not Morgan, it's Margo.
Speaker 1:Margo.
Speaker 2:Margo, her hair looks awful.
Speaker 1:Oh, it's a wig. Yeah, it's a wig.
Speaker 2:It looks so bad and like close to the end of the show they started just curling the front pieces near the ear Like they tuck, like their hair is supposed to be straight, and then they just tuck and like two of the girls had that and I was like why does her hair look like that? Yeah, this looks so fucking shitty.
Speaker 1:Also in the beginning, her hair was like longer.
Speaker 2:And then, like towards the was like curled in, yeah, and I was like what the fuck is happening? Her and the other girl which I can't remember her name, her little lesbian lover.
Speaker 1:Oh God, with the straight red hair. She had it too.
Speaker 2:She had that too and I was like this looks really bad, like I don't understand their stylist on set. Just I don't know. Is that how I was thinking the whole time, like is that how women are wearing their hair in Texas, like with this little bend right here? Maybe it's like that. You know how they talk about the Utah curls.
Speaker 2:Yeah, Like maybe it's that, maybe it's the Texas bend yeah, the Texas bend. Okay, yeah, I mean, I think in the beginning of the show I was like, oh God, this is just like. I can't believe that, like Sophie is just like even around these people.
Speaker 1:Uh-huh Like, what is she doing?
Speaker 2:Like she doesn't see. I mean, this is like me like first seeing, like I don't really trust anyone. Mm-hmm and so I could see, like this girl, I don't like this. Whatever's happening with I can't remember her name, Not Morgan Margo.
Speaker 1:Margo.
Speaker 2:I was like I can tell this Margo's, not Margo's bad news, margo is bad news, and Sophie is just easy manipulated.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Easily manipulated. So I can see that from the beginning the husband's a dick Like everything ran, true from the beginning to the end. Right, everything you could see it from the beginning to the end that like everything was just really consistent and yeah, I mean I thought that the end was just getting sillier and sillier.
Speaker 1:Like the plot twists were just getting crazy.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it felt like one of the mafia books I was reading. Yeah, this is getting like crazy. The death at the end was like why did this need to happen?
Speaker 1:It was weird, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So like, and then just the weird things that were happening.
Speaker 1:I was like man, I don't know, I liked it yeah.
Speaker 2:So at the end I was you know we're telling run about it. I was like, well, you don't like it drew. And he's like, yeah, it's okay.
Speaker 1:And then I was like, yeah, I'm just thinking like it's not very good I just found it so entertaining and because it was just so out there and because all these little plot twists kept happening here and there where I was like what, what, what, and I mean that's the kind of book you like to read and it's based on a book.
Speaker 2:Yeah, yeah, so I could see that, and I could see that with the book.
Speaker 1:I don't know why, like I could read a book and it could be so ridiculous, but when I'm watching it I'm like this is so fucking stupid yeah, I do think if I had read this as a book I would have loved it, where I really like this show, but I definitely think, of course, it'd be better as a book.
Speaker 2:Yeah I think so too, like what's that book that we read for the book club, the one with the wedding, and it is a movie, it's a show now is it perfect couple? Yeah, the perfect couple, yeah, which I think wait. Yeah, yeah, I know, because there was the other one that was at a perfect couple as well.
Speaker 1:I know.
Speaker 2:Anyways, that's the one.
Speaker 1:Which Nicole?
Speaker 2:Kidman is on Netflix with it. That was ridiculous too. So dumb Like the thing that was happening in the book, like it was all fucking ridiculous, right? Like all these ridiculous things. The book was better, but you just think like that could happen in a book because they're just like you know. Just think like that could happen in a book because they're just like you know. And when you're watching you're just going this is stupid, I know like why did she run him over or why did she do this? I'm just like what?
Speaker 1:now this is getting out of hand, I know it's like just getting crazier and crazier for like no reason I liked it and I like how it kept leaving me on cliffhangers and I just kind of like stuff like that was. It was just so ridiculous. But the thing is from the beginning.
Speaker 2:I was like for sure, I mean, this is spoiler alert, so like if you haven't watched it or you're going to watch it, don't listen to this part. Skip ahead. I knew Margot did it From the beginning.
Speaker 2:I thought that I just didn't know the reason why she did it like I was just like it has to be, that she came in and saw them or it has to be something. But I was like, and then I was thinking, like the problem with everyone wanted to. You know, they wanted you to think that it was bradley's mom. Was her name trish? God, I can't remember. Anyways, I it was too obvious for her to be like they were trying to make us go down that route with the phone call and saying I'm coming and I'll like, you know, but I thought that she would would have played a bigger role in it. I thought that they were going to be like oh, you know, she came and she hit her one time and then she fell to the ground. Uh, the little girl, what's her name? Addy?
Speaker 2:abby abby, abby. I thought maybe it was one of those times where you know you've seen them, or one person does something and they thought that they left him there to die, and then the other person actually comes and kills them oh yeah, I thought it was going to be one of those situations where maybe bradley's mom was like chasing her through the field, shot her, thought she killed her, but really like right before that she had like seen Margo and then Margo was chasing her through and she didn't see the mom and then she then shot her in the head.
Speaker 1:You know, got it.
Speaker 2:I thought it was going to be one of those plot twists, but it ended up just being Margo. And then Margo was just trifling just like I thought the one that I didn't see that coming, and everyone was pretty much bad in a dick yeah except for the little black kid oh, I know he just want to have sex with sophie, but
Speaker 2:then he didn't, and then he was like kind of telling her at the end like this is really bad, I can't help you but like watch yourself kind of yeah, so her, she, I mean him. He was like helpful of it.
Speaker 1:Sophie's an idiot and she is an idiot and she keeps making bad decisions and you keep going. Come on, it's also just like she would do stuff and then you it's like you understand why she's doing these things, but then it's like she's always in and then you it's like you understand why she's doing these things, but then it's like she's always in the wrong place at the wrong time, like something, always like the worst case scenario happens to her.
Speaker 2:And then, but she just lets Margo manipulate her, like are you really in love with Margo? And then she would get like in a like, so then she would have sex with Margo and then like but then when she stopped having sex with her at the motel or whatever, I was like okay, maybe she's like you know, figuring it out, turning it around. But then she was like, and then at the end, when she goes back to her, she's like. I told you.
Speaker 1:I'll be back.
Speaker 2:I'll be back and I'm like All you did was tell your husband that All you did was have this like one little conversation with your husband and then margo was just like yeah, I made a mistake and I like I think that is like the back and forth, where I thought it was done, where it was like, but maybe that's where margo was like, obviously manipulating her. But she would just be like I made a mistake, I'll help you. Blah, blah and I was just like I hate seeing that turn around so fast like that too quick yeah and I'm just like okay.
Speaker 2:So everyone just does whatever, like okay, yeah, one second, and then just someone convinces you and you're just like okay, fine, and then I just how about the red-haired lady just butt-fucking her husband she just loved it. That guy was gay he's hot.
Speaker 1:I thought he was hot.
Speaker 2:He was so big, such a tall, big guy, big old bear, yeah yeah, he was big over, because I mean they were saying that he was, I mean they were trying to imply that he was gay Right, because they had that little deputy like kind of hugging over him in the very first scene and she pops in.
Speaker 1:He's like what are you doing here?
Speaker 2:Oh, yeah, yeah yeah, yeah, so I think he was. They were trying to imply Right, and then I mean. Got it.
Speaker 1:He was, then his wife was gay too. Yeah, so two. Yeah, there was just two. Yeah, it was just. I just like, when shows are like shocking, like that where I'm just like what the hell?
Speaker 2:yeah, I just wanted. I mean, I just thought like I needed more. If you're gonna do that, I need more of a character. I need a little bit more texas. The accents weren't great they're bad yeah, it's so like stuff like that.
Speaker 1:I'm just like come on also, I think, what I liked about it which this doesn't sound weird to say, but like I really liked all the gun stuff because I have been really wanting to, like I've been really wanting to go to a shooting range lately, like so bad yeah, and then I just haven't gone, I think, because I'm like I don't want to go by myself and so I just like haven't really done it and because when I did all my weapons training in the air force, I was pretty good at it we can plan a date.
Speaker 2:Uh, drew went with paul and bern and they went out and they shot guns or whatever. I mean, drew really wants to buy a gun. Um, but also when they were there, they were getting weirded out by this one guy and it does get kind of weird. You know, like you're just trusting, they're like this guy kept looking at them and he wasn't doing like the safety things. It felt very weird and so like they had to like keep an eye on them but then like shoot and like it was like this weird thing.
Speaker 2:That seems scary to me. You know, I don't really like guns and just in a sense of like when I'm holding them, or like it doesn't make me feel like powerful or anything like that. It scares me mostly because of all of the horrible things that has happened with guns. Yeah, um, but I think it's fun, like I I did a gun class and I've like went out shooting and stuff, but it's still like, oh, is that the? I think people like it's like adrenaline, right because I think I.
Speaker 2:But I take the adrenaline. I'm like, ah, it's kind of scary, not worth it for me to do it, but I'll just go or whatever.
Speaker 1:But yeah, we could plan a day where we could go yeah, I was telling my mom because I was talking to my mom and my grandpa when I saw them and I was having lunch with them in Vegas the other day and then, um, we're talking about the show and all this stuff and I was just like saying how I was like, yeah, I want to go to shooting range and blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:And then I was like I don't know know Like I would carry a gun, I would. And then my mom she was just like, well, I didn't know that and she's like I would have just like gave you mine and I'm like you had a gun. And I didn't even know that my mom had a gun. So that was kind of scary to me because my mom does not seem like she would know what the fuck she's doing. Like that really scares me that she had. I'm like mom, what like I just don't trust her, yeah, with that. So like she would just do something dumb, like accidental yeah she seems like she would do something where I go.
Speaker 1:Oh my god she didn't. Yeah, clearly, yeah. So anyway, uh, yeah, I like the show. It was weird. It was like a weird show but also shocking. I liked all the plot twists and like twists and turns and it was just kind of like a little sexy show and it was just. I thought it was kind of fun.
Speaker 2:But yeah, definitely would have been better as a book. It was funny thing too, though is, like you know, my husband's just not really into like uh, two girls or whatever and yeah they go on the screen or whatever and then like when they're like gonna eat each other out and so some guys might like like watching that drew goes. You want to watch these two lesbians fuck and I go.
Speaker 2:No, fast forward, he goes okay oh my god, just fast forward it, yeah just fast forward to that, like that is so funny like it doesn't do anything to me, like I don't really need to see them like eating each other's pussies like you also.
Speaker 1:You're like get to the point. You're like, okay, I get it, like, yeah, I can see as she like.
Speaker 2:It could be a fade to black kind of thing. We're like, okay, she's going down yeah it. I don't need to see both of them kind of going at it whereas when, uh, margo was getting eaten out by bradley, hot. Or when bradley was jacking off when his girlfriend was praying hot. Not that it was hot, but it made a point, because margo was staring at bradley when he was jacking off and his girlfriend was kneeling praying and so you knew like there's something weird there, yeah.
Speaker 2:And then the same thing when Bradley was eating Margo out, and then Sophie is like watching and they're like kind of connecting.
Speaker 1:You know like okay. And then they talk about it later.
Speaker 2:You know why did you keep going? And then Margo tells her you know, you know, like I wanted you to see, or whatever. That makes sense to me. But I also I don't just need to watch two girls like eating each other out, like okay, I get it, like you know whatever, and just like part of the story, whatever. Yeah, I, I need the sex or whatever to like move the story along. Yeah, and so them having sex with those teenagers weird, fucking weird, yeah, yeah and that was her best, like one of her best friends, kit.
Speaker 2:That's what it's like. That's weird, too, that's so weird. So like they're having family parties, and then she that's why she was like, well, I'll go get him.
Speaker 1:That's like when you're a friend having sex with your son.
Speaker 2:Yes. Or with your daughter, with my daughter, yeah, that yeah. And when the in the first scene, where she's like I'll go get him, and then that's when she sees him jacking off with abby praying the lord, please take away my sins. I'm wanting to have desires or whatever. That's crazy wow.
Speaker 1:Well, if you guys haven't watched the hunting wives on netflix, you're in for a real treat. Yeah, check it out, check it out yeah, it's crazy.
Speaker 2:It's a crazy show you can just binge watch.
Speaker 1:It's only eight episodes yeah, it's kind of quick, easy um speaking of speaking of yeah, one of the things that we want to talk about. We had said want to be worshipped for my mind and my mouth. What does that mean? Are those equal Be?
Speaker 2:like multifaceted. Basically, Do you want it equally?
Speaker 1:Well, I think so. For me it's more like it's like you don't want someone to just be into you because they think that you're hot.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:Or like that to be the only thing that's like, because for me I don't want to be just one thing at's like, because for me it's I don't want to be just one thing at all to anybody, whether it's my looks or not. But yeah, I really hate like if I hate when, like I, I start talking to a guy let's say it's on a dating app, and they're talking to you and you already put a little bit in your bio and they have some stuff about them. You already know a little bit of background.
Speaker 1:So you start having this conversation and it's like the only things that they're complimenting are, like my photos or like what I look like and they don't say, like the guys who say, like, they acknowledge that, like I'm a mom, and they acknowledge like oh, you're a business owner, like that's, you know, that must be really difficult, or whatever, they like want to talk about this stuff, or they even just like bring it up.
Speaker 2:I am more interested in talking to those guys, um yeah, I don't even want, I don't want you to compliment how I look me personally.
Speaker 1:I mean, I do want them to compliment how I look, but also, yeah, don't have that be the only thing and don't just also keep saying it Like can you tell me anything else about anything else? And to even let me think, let me know that you read my profile and didn't just scroll through my photos, because that's irritating, because I think to me someone else too like part of what makes someone attractive to me.
Speaker 2:Yeah, you want to do the opposite too.
Speaker 1:I want them to be smart. I want them to be smart. I need them to be smart, I need them to be funny, I need them to be all these other things where it's like, if you're just hot and you have nothing else going for you, that's. I don't want that. You just have nothing in your brain. There's a dodo brain. I don't want to be a dodo brain and I don't want to date a dodo brain. But god, how easy life would be. Yeah, there are times where I kind of wish I was really stupid and I just was oblivious and I didn't know how stupid I was too, because I feel like those people must be really happy.
Speaker 2:They have no idea how dumb they are we, like that, go through life like I just don't. Sometimes for spark, I get these weird messages like. So they message me like, oh, I'm interested in your bracelet. And I'm like okay, yeah, you know we're going to be in downtown Vacaville, you know it's going to be this much, whatever. And they're just like okay, where are you guys located? And I'm like I already told you downtown Vacaville.
Speaker 1:I already said Okay.
Speaker 2:And then they'll go okay. So I see it's this far away, like that is all your side of figuring out. You don't have to message me. Let me know if you want to make an appointment.
Speaker 2:That's what I asked you yeah I didn't say, hey, let's work it out to see figure out how you can get here. I don't give a shit how you get here. I mean I just I don't understand like you thought I needed to work this out with you, but those people are so like they don't have anything in their brain and so they need your help yeah, yeah, I know, I know and I think too, like you know, there's times where I like okay, for example, I mean I'm not gonna say so.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so like I, I will meet people at things like and so, like I had told you, I met some different guys at like business things or like workshop, whatever. And then I'm like oh yeah, they're so hot, whatever. And then I will pull them up like on Instagram and I'm like look like and you're just like, that's who you think is so hot, like and it's like. But because in person I'm talking to them and I'm like yeah, well, they were like so fun and they were really smart. They obviously are like really successful. There's all these like other aspects about them that made them so attractive to me. Yeah, whereas, like you're just looking at this two-dimensional photo of someone, you're like I don't, I don't, I don't know, like I'm, that's it. I just it's hard for me to underwhelm a lot.
Speaker 2:Well, yeah, like I. I mean, I saw some of these photos that you said you would send and I'd be like super mid, maybe below mid.
Speaker 1:Here's the thing I love mid.
Speaker 2:Which the thing is yeah, I think mid's great.
Speaker 1:I love, like I don't really want. I don't really want to date like a super hot guy, like I want him to be like in life. He's really mid but to.
Speaker 2:In life he's really mid, but to me he's really hot. But I know he's just a mediocre looking guy to the world. I don't know.
Speaker 1:I would love to date calvin harris he's so fucking hot or michael b jordan you know I don't want to date a celebrity looking guy too, but my celebrity crushes are mid glenn powell. This is the most mediocre white guy, hot though, to me but I know in life and in comparison to like other celebrities ago. Yeah, I mean, he's just kind of regular yeah, compare him to calvin harris.
Speaker 2:Sorry, is that what's his name?
Speaker 1:henry, I was like calvin harris henry, I don't know who you're talking about. Batman, superman, I don't know.
Speaker 2:You got to figure it out, okay you got to figure it out and let me know. No, his name is god. Why did I get this wrong? I told you celebrity names.
Speaker 1:I just mix up together yeah, because I'm pretty sure calvin harris is a dj yeah, probably that's not what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:I'm talking about why can't I?
Speaker 1:I don't know, but show me and I'll tell you he's like the most handsome man in the world. Really According to whom?
Speaker 2:According to a lot of people here, he is here. He is here. He is here he is.
Speaker 1:Let's see.
Speaker 2:But let's see him. How come I just see his face and not?
Speaker 1:his name. Well, that's all I need to see is his face, I don't need to see his name. You just want to tell, you just want to tell the listeners, yeah, the listeners, the listeners, all 16 of you, 23 maybe well, while you're looking, okay, yeah, for whoever the fuck this guy is, I think, because here's the thing too I think that there's also okay. So this one guy that I've been seeing for a while now Okay, my little boyfriend, I like to call him my little boyfriend.
Speaker 2:He's not little, henry Cavill.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, you're way off.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean Henry Cavill and Calvin Harris. That's almost the same yeah you flip-flop. Flip-flop. I've been doing that lately, Jesus you have been. I mean, he's the most handsome man ever. You know he comes from like seven brothers and none of them are good looking. Isn't that weird?
Speaker 1:Jackpot with him.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean he's super built. That's probably why A lot of them aren't as built as he is.
Speaker 1:Mm.
Speaker 2:Mm-hmm. Yeah, I mean I'd like to date him. Yeah, of course he hot yeah, I think okay.
Speaker 1:So what I find difficult and I have told you this before what I find difficult is that I think a lot of my personality is more on like the masculine side. If you take personality traits and make them feminine or masculine, I do think that the bulk of what makes me who I am could be seen as like what like? Because I'm more dominant, like I have it, I have kind of like a dominant, like a bigger personality. I also am just more like. Most parts of my personality aren't just like this like soft, submissive, like kind of passive type of personality. I guess you could say.
Speaker 2:That goes for a lot of people, though. What do you mean? I mean, I don't feel like just because you have an opinion and you're outspoken makes you masculine.
Speaker 1:I'm not saying I am masculine, no, I'm saying like I don't know if that's a masculine trait I think, it is for sure I think being opinionated like if you had to say, is being opinionated more of a masculine or feminine trait.
Speaker 2:I think it's spicy I don't look at it like that. I guess I never really look in lenses as being like masculine dominant, because I'm thinking more like traditional, like how men are to be perceived and women are to like women are supposed to be like seen and not heard kind of a thing like your job things is like being spicy, especially like if you're puerto rican or you're filipino. They like think of those things like men are always like yeah, I know, if I'm with the latin girl she's spicy.
Speaker 1:Yeah, but that's dominant, that's very dominant yeah, I don't know if I'm with a Latin girl. She's spicy, yeah, but that's dominant, that's very dominant.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't know if that's dominant.
Speaker 1:I think it is. Yeah, I think it is.
Speaker 2:I think Drew very much takes on the dominance in our relationship, but I'm still very spicy and very outspoken.
Speaker 1:Well, yeah, of course, yeah. So that's why I don't think that that I mean.
Speaker 2:To me it just doesn't correlate as dominance and being outspoken.
Speaker 1:I don't think for those two, for me personally, go side to side, yeah yeah, I think like because when I'm saying like typical, traditional, almost like sexist type of views of like how women should be and how women should or men should be, and it's like okay, guys should be smart and they should be the ones making the money and making the decisions and they're doing all, and like the women, it's like okay, you're like the softer one, you're the one that's like what, whatever?
Speaker 1:yeah, yeah and so I feel like a lot of the stuff that I do or am like I don't know, because it's like I do make my own money, I do have a lot of opinions, all these things, and so it's hard, I think it's hard to find this duality between how do you where you're when you're in a relationship or you're meeting guys, and it's hard to find this like spot in the middle where it's like this is a lot of who I am, but like also in a relationship, I would like to be softer.
Speaker 1:I would like for you to take on some of those things so I can be softer and I don't feel like I have to be the one making all the decisions and doing all the things, and so I. That's where it's hard, because it's like yeah, but at the same time I'm sitting here saying like I don't want you to just compliment my photos, it's like I want you know what I mean. It's such like it goes back and forth, back and forth, where I'm like I want you to like let me live in my feminine energy and think that I'm pretty and la la, but also like you better not think I'm fucking dumb and you better let me make my own money. And so you just like, it's like a power struggle, yeah, with your within yourself and your partner.
Speaker 1:Yeah and so that's really hard, I feel, like when you're dating too, because it's like you almost don't wanna, and I think this is why, like the first couple months that, like people date and they always say, like kind of takes a little while to really find out who people are. And I think it's because you do you kind of like go into these situations and sometimes you don't want to be too much or you don't want to show too much of who you are, where it's like maybe it's overwhelming to this person or you're just also holding back a little because, like for me, I'm more of an observer and so it's like I almost need to see who they are first before I, and so it's just such a weird thing, yeah, when you're meeting new people or even becoming friends with people and trying to figure out like I think where do I fit?
Speaker 2:because you're like an introvert. Yeah, so you really are observing where I take on a very strong personality in anything that I do. Really and so I just go into these places and like this who I am, this what I'm about, and you're either here, you're not.
Speaker 1:You decide where I go, like even this like workshop that I went to recently. It's like I go in there and it's like I have very strong opinions about not only my business, what everyone else is like doing, what you guys are saying, all the stuff we're talking about. But in that setting, very submissive I'm I'm not gonna be the one like I'm not gonna like raise my voice to talk. I'm not like to be the one Like I'm not going to like raise my voice to talk. I'm not like I'll literally raise my hand to say where these guys are just shouting out answers and they're like going across the like boardroom saying things where I'm just like hello, I'm just over here and if you don't see me raising my hand, I also don't really care. Hi, we're going to blah, blah, blah, blah, blah.
Speaker 1:But like, if you have a sidebar with me and we're having this conversation, I'm like this who I am, what I'm about, this is what I'm doing. This is why I don't think that what you're talking about works for me. So it's just yeah, for me. I am very much like I like to stay back a little bit and kind of read the room, observe a little bit, let other people have their moment, the people who, just the people who have to be loud. You know that there's always those people and we talked about this before and sometimes it comes from a place of insecurity or whatever, and I just, I want to just let everyone do their thing and then maybe I will participate, maybe I will just, maybe I won't. It depends, um, but it's hard for me to continue being interested in a guy, especially when he doesn't see or value those things I bring to the table yeah, for sure, really hard for me.
Speaker 1:Yeah, where he's like oh you just look good, like I just want to fuck you or like we say, or we're talking about work stuff, and then we get into it like a tiny bit, and then he doesn't ask any like follow-up questions, like he doesn't give a fuck about it, like he's just like, oh, okay, cool, and doesn't really understand, like what it is that I do, and like or how much work is taking to get here, or you know, and it's like because those are the things I want to learn about them too, and so it also number one. It tells me like either like you don't care, or number two, like maybe it is you care, but you don't think that I am that person. I don't know if that makes sense. Like you care to learn that about some people, but for me, like, for whatever reason, it didn't come off to you like anything that I said was interesting enough to to continue, like yeah, inquiring about or whatever.
Speaker 2:Um, yeah, or you're just a fucking idiot or you know, it could also be that, like when you're in a relationship, I mean I guess you're trying to like, prove, like that you're amazing in the beginning. But it could be that, like when you're in a relationship, I mean, I guess you're trying to like, prove, like that you're amazing in the beginning. But it could be that, like they actually do that with their spouses but like this is just like, oh, some girl that I'm like looking to hook up with or whatever, and it's like I'm not really going to do all those things. But even when it's not that, even the line like they just don't like, they're just like I don't just like seeing where this girl is, but like, yeah, I would do that with my person, but maybe not like in the beginning, you know.
Speaker 1:So I think too. I think what is too part of it for me is like and I know you two also like, hate small talk, and so I don't want to talk about superficial stuff, even if it's not small talk stuff but it's like I don't want to be on surface level with anyone don't ask me what time when I brush my teeth before after my coffee.
Speaker 2:Don't ask me my in and out order like so random I hate those kind of small talks.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and I want to know, like, if I'm on this date with someone whatever the like outcome goal is of, I want to have a real conversation about like. I literally want to know, like, what makes you like who you?
Speaker 2:are. Yeah, I want to hear about your childhood trauma. Yes, I want to hear about like I want to hear about, like you know your daily struggles.
Speaker 1:What kind of mental health stuff have you like been through with anything? What kind of like what do you really want out of life? Like I want to know all these things. Serious questions, yeah I want to know.
Speaker 2:On the first, I want to know that, but like very surface level oh, not me like I want to know, like okay, so say, like you had like this abusive alcoholic mother. Well, yeah, just tell me like, oh yeah, my mom was like an alcoholic and she's kind of abusive and we're.
Speaker 2:You can tell me, like those things I don't really need to know, like 10 specific stories where you're like it's becoming a therapy session oh like on the first date, like you can just tell me those things, because I feel like in the beginning, like we both have to say things, so it's like it can't just be like your, your therapy session, and I'm just, you know all this stuff. I feel like you should tell me like yeah, like I said, your mom's an alcoholic, you know how you grew up, poor, or whatever. Like I want to hear that. Like you know where you went to college, or if you didn't, or why, or whatever, and like some of your jobs, stuff like that. But I just don't know if, like having this first dinner date, like I am going to need to become your therapist.
Speaker 1:See, I like I would almost rather deep dive into one whole topic of your life Than surface level all of it Because, also, I think Also because here's the thing with men too. Also, I think it also because here's the thing with with men too, I want to know how vulnerable you're willing to get, and I understand this is like a first time meeting or whatever, but if you're just if I can tell that you're so standoffish with my questions or whatever, I have a hard time with that. Yeah, we're like I need someone who's because I think too like I want someone who I feel like I need someone who's because I think too like I want someone who I feel like I need someone who also likes to deep dive on stuff like that and have these serious conversations yeah, I, I do like to deep dive, but I just feel like I can't like know one thing because I need to like go home and be like well, I mean, yeah, it was a good day, but did did I?
Speaker 2:I need more questions answered than just one, so it's like when, when I don't hear about your job or why you moved to these places or whatever, I need to hear kind of an overall picture of your life and not just surface level like okay, I moved here from Seattle and it was just because of a job you know I need to hear some stuff so it's like I need to see your whole world inside, but not like your soul yet okay.
Speaker 1:So I feel like my couple things, but I think one is that's probably the same conversation they're having with every date, and so I want to be different too. That's also part of it where I don't want to. I don't want someone asking the same questions that everyone else asks me. I don't want to repeat myself the same life story to every fucking date. I go on and it becomes this just like what was so special about that date?
Speaker 1:and so like I want to leave a date and I want them to leave, like really feeling something and I feel like when you deep dive into this one thing and you and they're like we're being vulnerable with each other, we talk about all this stuff, and then you leave there having this like deep connection, even though you're like I don't know anything else about him, I literally only know he has an alcoholic mom. We talked about it for three hours.
Speaker 1:But like you just connect so deep on that thing, you leave and you're like feeling some type of like magical way about your connection yeah, and then it leaves you wanting to know so much more where, like, if I know a decent amount of all these other things, I go okay and then I leave, and it's more of like a logical decision where I'm like all right, maybe I want to see him, maybe I don't, and I don't want them to feel like that about me. I want them to be like man, I, I really like I want to know so much more about her and I want like yeah, and so how do I think that's part of it too?
Speaker 2:Yeah, I don't have deep connections with people like that, just with random people. I like it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I love that, that that'll happen later for me I can't just be having these people out there, just having deep connections with them. No, I gotta know. And I will say I do feel like I have heard a lot of times where, like, if I go on dates and I mean I feel like a lot of times guys go man. Like they can tell like halfway through or maybe before where they go. Like I never talked about this type of stuff on a first date or they make some type of comment like that where they're like wow, this is really.
Speaker 1:And I'm like, yeah, I know I. And I always just say like I also am an open book, though with my life, and so if people were to ask me the questions you're asking me, I don't have a problem with that. Where?
Speaker 2:I understand that some people do and they don't.
Speaker 1:They don't feel comfortable to open up, so I will sometimes preface my questions and I'll say, look, I'm gonna. I am an open book, but I know that everyone isn't like that, so I may ask you stuff that maybe you feel uncomfortable answering right now, and that's okay, but just so you know, like that's how I am yeah too, and so then they're just like all right, whatever.
Speaker 2:But I think people will appreciate it too if you are like open about stuff yeah, you can't just be going around questioning everyone and then like, yeah, they're like damn this bitch hella nosy. Yeah, that's what I think about it too.
Speaker 1:This bitch is hella nosy yeah, I gotta know everything, yeah yeah, yeah, which I am hella nosy, but very much later on, when people like, it feels more of like a trusting relationship you know, my grandpa likes to say, yes, I'm doing questions, and he'll go, you're writing a book, and then, and then whatever he would say that and I'd be like, yeah, I am, then you go, leave this chapter out. That's what he likes to say you're writing a book leave this chapter out, so silly.
Speaker 2:Yeah, one of your dates is gonna say that one time oh, it'd be so great. Yeah, I'll marry that one yeah, yeah, I'll be like oh my god, she's like my grandpa.
Speaker 1:Okay, you can come on with me, yeah yeah, fine, you can live with me, I guess.
Speaker 2:Yeah, god I know, people are just so weird.
Speaker 1:I know it's, it's hard because you have to. I have a hard time, like how you're saying like you, you know you just go in and then you just want to like be fully be yourself and you're just like. It is what it is, like whatever. I'm not like going to shrink myself or whatever to be to make you feel comfortable. And so I do feel like there are times where I go, hmm, where I'm like I don't know if I am shrinking myself or I'm just or diluting my personality or what it is to like make other people feel comfortable, and I have to like catch myself and be like okay, what are you doing?
Speaker 2:well, I think that there is a difference, and I think I do this a little bit, and so I think there is is a difference, and I think I do this a little bit, and so I think there is a time and place. I mean, you have to read the room.
Speaker 1:I think and some people don't and some people don't.
Speaker 2:So I think that that for me is like when you're saying like, oh, do I have to dilute myself or do this. I don't ever feel like I'm bringing myself down or like feeling like I can't be myself. I'm reading the room of what's appropriate and, yeah, maybe there are times when, like it's just all men and then you feel like you can't say anything. I'm sure there's times like that or whatever. Yeah, but for the most part I'm just like okay, we're not really in a space to talk about these things or where you're too much or you're too loud, or it's just like this is obnoxious, like I feel like there's a lot of times when I find myself around obnoxious people oh yeah and they're not seeing that, like we're just I mean, I'm the obnoxious one like Drew.
Speaker 2:Drew feels like that I get too loud, and he's like I'm sitting right here, you're screaming. I'm like, well, I'm drunk, what do you want me to do? You know? But, um, like when you and I have been in moments like this where we're just like in a group or there's like three people or whatever and there's a person, it's just like interrupting and just louder, or just like, yeah, you and I kind of play off each other.
Speaker 2:But it's not like and sometimes we're interrupting, especially if we're giggling or if like whatever, but like when it's like so much of that, and especially when you're like in a group setting and it's just like one person is always like you just want to go shut the fuck up right, yeah, right or like you know there's that meme where people you know in the corporate world, people are like that could have been an email, like why does she keep asking questions?
Speaker 2:like get off this fucking call and then you can talk to that person, or whatever yeah and I feel like that sometimes, like, and so I don't think that that lady needs to be dumbed down or like she needs to dilute herself, but like, read the fucking room, lady we're all just sitting here asking the same questions and everyone's like yeah, I know when they first, when we're kids and stuff, they say like there's no stupid questions or like you know someone else has that question or whatever.
Speaker 2:But there doesn't need to be 15 of them, you don't have to keep fucking raising your hand every other thing the person says oh my god say shit like I hate that I hate that too and I'm not saying to dilute your personality, I'm not saying like hey, lady, like be different. I'm just like, hey, lady. We're all just trying to learn here.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I'm just trying to get through this, right.
Speaker 2:So I think like that's just an example of like you know when I think you need to read the room.
Speaker 1:Oh gosh, we can read in the room Shit like that so. I was at this workshop and you know we're in these groups and there's like seven or eight people in a group with one advisor. Advisor is like a really like important person at this company who's putting on this workshop and they have such valuable insight for our businesses and they're so smart and you just like wish that you could like take them to lunch and just like pick their brain they can live with you yeah, they could live with me for sure if I, if I just ask them questions all the time and we have such limited time and we're, like I said, we're in a group and and there's always one fucking guy like we.
Speaker 1:There was one guy in my group and I kind of felt bad for him because he's like a little bit older and, um, you could tell he just really doesn't like know how to run a business, kind of thing, but he has this like he has a pretty successful business but um, he buys and okay, so like kind of lower income apartment buildings who, because you know, a lot of times apartments they uh, they like compete on price or they're like we'll get one month free and
Speaker 1:so places that kind of like. They fuck themselves because they're competing on price and then they can't afford to stay. So then they like, are going to like whatever you want to call it go out of business. I don't know how you would say that. But so then they sell the apartment complex to him and so he kind of tries to rehab it a little bit. But he's working with like really low income people and those are the people getting evicted all the time they're not paying their rent and so he has anyway.
Speaker 1:So he's trying to figure out all this stuff and um. But he's really successful and his business makes millions of dollars a year and so he's asking these questions and like, okay, we had 30 minutes, we had a 30 minute window for q a, for eight fucking people to ask their questions. Okay, and they say in the beginning they literally tell us in the very beginning, like here's the rules. And they tell us, like here, like super simple rules is like hey, you can't go downstairs, you can't do this. And then they're like the number one rule, like don't be a dick, like be aware of, like you're everyone else in the room, and la la la, don't take everyone's time.
Speaker 1:He took over 20 minutes of our 30 minutes just asking the same questions and they were dumb questions because he would ask questions and then the advisor person would answer, and then he would ask a question where it's like it's such a basic, like business question. It's almost like embarrassing kind of that. He asked it but of course, like they're gonna help him and stuff, but it's like he just didn't even pay attention to the fact that there's seven other people here sitting like on the edge of their seat like god. I just want to ask one fucking question, and you've asked like 16 questions in a row and doesn't he's so oblivious, like not reading the room and like not paying attention to, like you're just sucking everyone's like time.
Speaker 2:And what I hate about this is like some people would say that when they're like that, they go, that like that's the opportunity everyone has. Like you could just why. You know I'm the go-getter so I'm going to ask all my questions because all my questions are going to get answered. That's not how the world works. Yeah, like. Yeah, you can be that selfish little bitch if you want. Yeah, sure, but like we're all here, like trying to like be courteous and be nice and like that's the problem.
Speaker 1:And we all paid a lot of money to be there.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying. Like I really hate that kind of people. And I mean those people are like I said, they're going to talk shit and say like I'm the go-getter, I'm the one asking the questions, I'm making sure I get my money's worth all this stuff and I'm like go ahead, be a dick.
Speaker 1:And yeah, I guess it's like sure I could have been like hey, you know, I have a question too and I want to make sure I get an answer before the end.
Speaker 1:I could have like talked over him thing too, and so I'm like it's fine, like I'll just wait, you know, I'll wait till whatever cocktail hour at the end and I'll try and hunt down one of these advisors and get my question answered, or I'll fucking google it, I guess. I don't know, I'll figure it out, but it's just yeah, I hate that shit when people just are so oblivious to whatever what else is going on in the room. And that's how sometimes I feel like when you're having a conversation and you're either on a date or you're on these dating apps or you're meeting people or whatever, and it's like they're so oblivious, they're so stupid, they're not like paying attention to like the stuff I already wrote on my profile, the stuff that's happening in this restaurant right now, and like the appropriate type of conversations we should be having, or this and that, and they're just like, well, I mean I think that's within like anything that that happens within our business.
Speaker 2:People ask us questions that they miss, like on the welcome guide or that like we've like basically highlighted for them, like you know, three times throughout the process. And they ask this and we're just like, okay, yeah, I mean we're gonna answer your question, but like we already answered this three times for you, yeah, and like I, think that sometimes people get it and sometimes people don't.
Speaker 2:I think it comes from insecurity. Probably sometimes women are worried about how like they're gonna have their period when they come in for our boudoir shoes and they're like I have to cancel my shoe like I can't even have this.
Speaker 2:And some people you don't even know until I say, like you won't even know, that they were on their period, I'll see the tampon string right kind of silly, but that's fine like you won't even know, and so I think that that it's just like people need to have more information and people need to kind of learn from each other and, like you know, help each other out, because like you know. It's just like if you see it say something you know if your friend is like this, and you're just like.
Speaker 2:You can't do these things yeah I mean I tell you all the time like no uh-huh. Or I tell you that's embarrassing, you can't do that. Or I'm like don't let people just call you brianna constantly uh yeah, like you know, just like.
Speaker 2:You know, just weird shit like that. I go that's so weird. Brianna, yeah, I tell you like that's weird. No, don't do that, you know. It's just like you know, just weird shit like that. I go, that's so weird. Rihanna, yeah, I tell you Like that's weird. No, don't do that, you know. And it's just like help people out a little bit. You know, if that's your grandpa, then we're talking about your grandpa. That was at this like workshop, oh my. Please tell him don't take up everyone's time.
Speaker 1:Jesus, Look us have questions too. I know I was like god damn it, I know, but what can you do? God's plan? Let's let god, okay, yeah, god, please help bob, please. Oh gosh, I know I just it's like I want to be, I want you want to be all the things and you want to be like, appreciated for all those things too. Like, yeah, Like and I guess this for me does keep coming back to like relationship-ish. Oh, that's where you are. But that is really that's where you are. Yeah, Because it is like. Yeah, I want to be like, I want to be able to like, be opinionated or like, have kind of like a you adore me or you think I'm darling, I mean that's how I feel in my relationship at home.
Speaker 2:I mean that's what we talked about last time, where I was like I was so angry, I was so hard, and then all of a sudden I like let myself be a little soft and so everyone's kind of taking care of me a little bit which I still am, have a lot of opinions, I still take control a lot at home, but I've let them like kind of like soften me so that they can take care of me. Like to me was bringing me lunch every day, you know, and it's so sweet of her, you know, and so and drew will make me lunch every day. If I was like, hey, can you just start making me lunch? He makes the best fucking sandwiches. They look so beautiful, which is so weird. Like you just make a beautiful sandwich and he's like the secret is they used to fold the meat perfectly oh god, get the hell out of here.
Speaker 2:But they do look beautiful and I think they taste better because they look prettier oh yeah, yeah, naturally yeah yeah. So I mean, I think that I think you can have that, I think that, um, I think kristin's like that too. I think kristin has a lot of opinions and you know she just says off the wall shit, that which I love and then she's just like a little princess too she is yeah yeah, fernando really is like taking care of her, just like kind of loving on her and stuff.
Speaker 1:So I guess that's how mariah is too, because she's pretty.
Speaker 2:I was just gonna say she's very outspoken and earl's over there like I think he thinks she's crazy, probably just like all of our husbands. Things were all crazy, right, but they yeah, we all are, but he very much is taking care of her, yeah, so I I do think that, like I think that there are men out there that are like all right, I'm just with this crazy bitch, but I'm gonna treat her like a little princess, I guess yeah, you know the only time.
Speaker 1:So this is so weird, okay, okay, because, well, I was gonna say in you know the only time, so this is so weird, okay, okay, because well, I was going to say in, you know, with my ex-husband.
Speaker 1:It was like I never felt taken care of, okay, and that was something I brought up and I remember him being like, well, I don't really like.
Speaker 1:I remember the first time that I really brought it up and it was kind of like well, I don't really take care of you because you just like take care of yourself, and it was like that's not the fucking point, you know, and so it's like he just didn't get it.
Speaker 1:So the only time, the only person who I really feel like is like that with me and has been this way consistently now for months, is this like 25 year old guy that I've been seeing and he always like and he loves to talk about work. He loves to talk about his work. He wants to talk about my work, he loves talking and which, you know, I love talking about work and so we're just like talking about all this work stuff and we're just like on the same level with a lot of the conversations that we want to have and he's really smart and, like, I think, very mature for his age and I think that's why it works. But, um, and he's always just like I just love how hard working you are and I just love how smart you are and blah, blah, blah and he always is telling me like how he appreciates like the maturity level and all these like different things like.
Speaker 1:I appreciate that you're an old bitch yeah, I love that about you and so because he probably, you know, he probably dates these like 20 something year old girls are just like stupid.
Speaker 2:Maybe I don't, I don't know I don't know, I'm not just not as much life experience too, and stupid and so anyway, so he'll.
Speaker 1:He'll say this stuff and like appreciates those things about me, but then always wants to take care of me. He's always like bringing me dinner. I think it's a personality trait I?
Speaker 2:I I honestly think, like a lot of the men that are in my life, they very much take care of their wives. Yeah, like I would say all of them, all my brothers are kind of dicks, but you know, giovanni, still really caters to yeah, oh and my, uh, my grandpa's so like that, because my grandma's like that too with my grandma, because my grandma is just, she was so bossy so bossy and she would just tell him how to do everything and like let me tell you how to live your life, because you're a fucking idiot.
Speaker 1:And like that's just how she is, and like she was such a hard worker, had had her own career, all this other stuff, but man, he'll just take care of every single thing that she needs and wants, and just and that's just how it is.
Speaker 2:And just like, so, like some of these men are so sweet, like I say this all the time Tony is just the sweetest husband ever. Like he like Drew, sometimes like like I'll just be like, oh, can you pick us up after we're drinking or whatever. But tony is like offering it before we even go out, like, oh, I'll like text her saying okay, how we're gonna get there, whatever.
Speaker 2:And she's like, oh, tony said he's just gonna drive us and then he'll pick us up after, like just before he's thinking about it you know, and I just find that sometimes these men are so sweet in that way, but then, you know, still being able to be like a man and like, but like it's weird because I always think like I don't want like a soft guy. But when I see how much these men take care of us, which that is kind of like a softness to them, I think, not just be like you take care of me because I'm the man you know, yeah, figure it out. It really touches my heart where I think that if I didn't have that part, I probably wouldn't like the, you know, like right them to be fully like just the man you know, yeah, yeah, yeah.
Speaker 2:So it is weird in that way where it's just like they're out there, they'll find you well they'll take care of you where are they? The one's gonna come.
Speaker 1:I know I'm telling you this one. I'm like why do I have to be 25? Why do I have to be 25?
Speaker 2:that's the main part, because he wants kids yeah, I mean because we've seen things where, like, they're younger and then they don't want to have kids or anything. But we also see things where, like I think Heidi Klum is dating someone really younger and then she got pregnant Right, she's having a kid, or whatever, didn't she?
Speaker 1:get pregnant or no? Giselle Bundchen.
Speaker 2:She is older too, and then she started dating her karate teacher or something.
Speaker 1:And then she's like pregnant right after her and her husband broke up. But also, those are just rich people, you don't really have to work. Yeah, just get a nanny, whatever. Yeah, yeah, I just I don't know. I know, and it's interesting because I just I it's like sad. I think that like I am so shocked whenever he acts like this and every time I'm like have any type of conversation with him or any interaction with him, I'm just like, oh, like, why am I so shocked, like why is this not just what I'm expecting, but because everyone is like that, when I hear you talk like that is disappointing it is.
Speaker 2:I know it's disappointing that, um, this world hasn't shown you like more kindness in that way, and I also find it disappointing in a way like because you've lived apart from your family too you don't really have anyone that has like I don't know I'm not saying like taking care of you, but just like sure, drop your dog off here when you go on vacations yeah, like nobody is ever like easier for you, and that's what I'm talking about.
Speaker 2:it's not that you got to bring me my play, it's that you make my life a little easier. When you know that it's like a struggle for me, like when drew recognizes or the kids recognize that I'm struggling, they see it, they just go what can I help with? Or I'll just do this, or like they just take it upon themselves just to do that to make it easier on me. You know it's not necessarily that you're like fluffing my pillows and, like you know, treating me like a real princess, and so I think that it's been a little unfair for you in life and I think that that's why you haven't really seen it much. I mean, I think you've seen it with your grandpa and your grandma.
Speaker 2:Yeah grandpa and your grandma, yeah, like still you haven't lived with them in a long time and constantly around them. So I think, because of your past relationships, also because of your friendships, I think too, and not really having like friends, family, you know like a lot of our friends are family with us, and so we all kind of like do these things together.
Speaker 2:If we ever need anything, it would be no problem, like all those kind of things too. I think that that has kind of like pushed you to the side where you haven't seen it, and then, when you see it, you're just like, oh, this is really weird well, I get shot, I'm shocked and uh, and I'm always waiting for it to stop I'm always waiting, yeah, for like, when is this gonna end? Yeah, yeah, when are you?
Speaker 1:gonna stop acting like this, like this is fake, you know and so at least and I, you know it's whatever like with this guy, it's obviously a super casual thing. That's not gonna ever be anything serious because of his age and everything else. But yeah, but I'm just like, every single time you want to come see me, you want to like, you want to bring me dinner, you're like oh, I, I like, you know you can't make it here till, like, after dinner, so he's like bringing dessert and he wants to do all these things and he's saying all these nice things to me and it's like months and months and months long, and and then I was in vegas, okay, and so maybe I sound like a slut.
Speaker 1:So I was in vegas and then I went in my room, because I stay at the park, uh, mgm and I hadn't stayed there before, so I didn't know what their rooms looked like or whatever. So what I liked, I went in there and it's like everything was red. I had these like red velvet, like curtains, all this stuff, and it was like kind of like sexy in there and I was like I should take some pictures in here. And so I took like a couple pictures so little nudes and then I texted them to him and so then I'm texting him. I was like, oh, you know, like wish you were here, whatever.
Speaker 1:And then, like, then he just like keeps texting me back and forth about it and I'm just saying like I'm just saying like sexy stuff, I'm not even saying anything. Yeah, naughty stuff. And he's just like yeah, I would love to do it. He's like, but also, but also like so we could go to dinner, we could spend like time, we could go do stuff, like we can go do fun stuff together. And I'm like oh, yeah, of course, yeah, that too.
Speaker 1:I guess like, yeah, I guess, if you want to like leave the room and like spend time with me as a real person, sure, but it's like I just am like shocked, I'm like you want to do that. It's just like why is that shocking? I don't know, but I guess too because it's so, especially if you make it so easy for a guy to just be like yeah, well, whatever, because that's all it really is about. It's like oh, yeah, I'll have sex with you, whatever. And so then, when they're like no, I want to spend time with you and I want to like do all this stuff with you, and I'm just thinking like why it's weird to me yeah you do yeah, so that's what you know.
Speaker 1:know, I just real skeptical, real skeptical about.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:I go oh, we'll see. We'll see With anyone.
Speaker 2:Yeah.
Speaker 1:So You'll find it, it's interesting.
Speaker 2:I think that's what's going to shock you. Is that I mean just like it's shocking you now? It's like someone that's just like they just want to be with you, to be with you, yeah.
Speaker 2:They don't want really they know that you can take care of yourself, but they still want to do stuff for you, like when your ex-husband's response was well, you do everything for yourself, you know. It should have been like yeah, I know you, you know. Or it's like I know you can do it, but I'm that's what I'm here for to help. That's the response Right, I know you could do, I know you can fucking go put gas in your car. Yeah, but like the response right, I know you could do, I know you can fucking go put gas in your car, yeah, but like I could just go do it for you.
Speaker 1:I love you. It's like I I literally could do all of my whole life without you, like I actually don't need you for anything, but that's not the point, yeah like, that's not the point too.
Speaker 2:Like when drew's like, okay, I have to go to the grocery store to get this, this and this, I'm like, well, I'm gonna leave work at this time, like I'll just get on my way home. And drew's like, well, no, I can go grab it. You've been working all day. And I'm like, yeah, but I could. I am not, I'm not tired or anything, or feel exhausted brain anxiety, like I'll just grab it on my way out, like you don't have to make a trip.
Speaker 1:Yeah, what's the big deal?
Speaker 2:and then like like why don't you do those things? You know? I'm saying like those are the types of things yeah, you know, like, yeah, I you know, like. Yeah, I know you're capable of leaving the house and going to do that, but I can just go on my way home, it's fine.
Speaker 1:Yeah, you know.
Speaker 2:So those are like those small, tiny things that people don't like recognize and I think that are undervalued, maybe.
Speaker 1:Oh for sure, Because people don't see it. Oh for sure, yeah. So if you guys listening, if you know anybody who's like that, who? Yeah, so if you, if you guys listening, if you know anybody who's like that, about 15 years older, yeah so, jesus, I'm like I need some more young. So young, I just like I just need someone like, just like that, but who's like between 35 to 45, who doesn't want to have kids. They're already done having kids or they don't have them and they're fine with it.
Speaker 2:Yeah, it's tough with. I mean, you're in this weird age range. I think, if you were five years older, you'd feel okay it? There's gonna be a lot less men that are wanting to have kids.
Speaker 2:That's what I'm saying between me full-time parenting my son, who's only 13, and being in the age range where there's men who are still wanting to have kids or they have small children, like if, if you're dating someone, probably like from 40 to 45 I mean even 40 they could have small kids like 45, probably they're not gonna have small kids or they don't.
Speaker 1:If they don't have kids, they don't want any kids yeah, that's why I feel like I'm gonna be single for five more years fuck, because that's gonna be like your eight.
Speaker 2:You need to get in that age range. I gotta get in that age range.
Speaker 1:Yeah, and my son, it will be grown up, maybe that the stars will align. I mean a rich all right, five more years of this. Yeah, it was pretty fun, though. Five more years of being slut, and then you'll be a housewife. Five more years of experience.
Speaker 2:Yeah, easy.
Speaker 1:Yeah.
Speaker 2:Who can't do that?
Speaker 1:Oof. Yeah, you know, my mom was single for like 15 years.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I mean my mom's been single, for I mean she's had a couple here and there, but I mean this whole time. She's pretty much single since, like I was 12.
Speaker 1:Hmm.
Speaker 2:She just always said, like I don't even think I have my kids.
Speaker 1:You know, I was like, yeah, I mean I get that, but you could go on trips with someone you can go do things with someone, but she was very content going to bingo every night yeah it's, it's really tough because I'm like man, I just I'm really having a good time right now and not even saying like, oh, good time, like you know, fucking around just literally like I'm just having a good time right now, and not even saying like, oh, good time, like you know, fucking around just literally like I'm just having a good time, just being with myself right now too. Where I go, I don't really whatever, but so yeah, so sometimes I think about that because you know, when I was, I talked to my therapist about this. This was like two years ago, this was like early on in the divorce process, and I was so just yikes, I couldn't really see past, and I was just like what if I'm going to just like be single forever? And she was kind of like what if you are single forever? Like why is that the worst thing? Like why do you have to be with someone?
Speaker 1:And then I was telling her I was like, oh, you know, my mom was single for so long and she's just like okay. And then how did? How did that make you feel? And I'm like I don't know, it just seems sad and she's like okay, but was she sad? And I was like. I mean, she didn't seem like it and she's like yeah, why is it sad to you like, why did that make you feel like it's sad that someone's single and I was like I don't know, it just seems sad and she's like but maybe your mom was having a great time?
Speaker 2:yeah I think right. I think it's hard, though, when you're like with someone all the time. You're living with someone and then you're like, how would I be without this person, even though your guys relationship was so sucky so shitty yeah, like you're still like I had a person if I like really needed them, you know, and I think for you too, like he was leaving, like completely going to be gone out of this whole entire state Mm-hmm Gone, mm-hmm. Which I think was probably more beneficial.
Speaker 1:God, that was the best opportunity. That could not have aligned better.
Speaker 2:I just wish it had happened sooner, because you might have went back and forth with him for a little bit.
Speaker 1:Yeah, if he was still living here, I probably would have been sucked in for another year.
Speaker 2:Although when he came back that one time but there might have been too much space in between you said you didn't really like him.
Speaker 1:Mm-mm.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I thought that that was going to happen.
Speaker 1:But only because he had left. Yeah, he had stayed and I had the opportunity to still like, because we probably would have just stayed living together for a long time because it was easier and I think we both would have done that, because we would have been like it's just easier, like you just live in the guest room and whatever, which would have just like muddied everything up and it would have been yeah, because you might have been trying to, like still have sex with each other oh, yeah, and then that would have been messy just a hot mess.
Speaker 1:So that was good. Just got his stupid ass on a plane and got the fuck out of here god's plan sure was thank you, jesus yeah, you're taking him away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank god god yeah, if he would have stayed here, it would probably have been awful.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I would be at minimum I would be a year behind of where I am right now. I think yeah, so it's best if you're going to get a divorce you get to, one of you guys has to move out of state. That's the recommended yeah. If you don't have any children, well, yeah, thank god I never had kids with him.
Speaker 2:I know not, didn't come up.
Speaker 1:Oh yeah, because after we had dated for like six months or something, and I was so invested at that point, like at that point I knew like okay, we're gonna get married, all this stuff like I was like this is my person, I wanted to have more kids. But we didn't even have that conversation until like six months in and then he was like, oh, absolutely not, like I'm not having any more fucking kids, done whatever. And I was like what? And I was, I was so upset, like I was like, oh my god, like this is the person I want to marry and all this stuff. And then they don't want to have any kids. And I do like I really want to have another kid. And I was so like we almost broke up over the whole thing and we probably fucking should have.
Speaker 1:But I just was so upset and then it went on and it kind of kept being this thing, like we're like okay, give it another few months and then we'll talk about it at that point, or like wait till we're engaged and then we talk about it at that. It like kept being this, like let's just keep putting it off, until I finally had to be like okay, like it's never gonna happen. He's not gonna have kids with me. So, like, if I want to be with him, I just have to be okay with the fact that I'm done having kids. And I struggled so hard with that and then finally I just accepted it and I was like, okay, well, I guess this is just my like, maybe this is what was meant to happen. And like, okay, like I'm just gonna like have just my son and that's it, and maybe that's. And like, just convince myself, like this is how it should be. And then we never had kids.
Speaker 1:And then at the fucking end, when stuff was so shitty and then he was just like I was thinking like, like what if we had a baby? And I'm like, go fuck yourself, I don't want to have a baby now. Also, after I had my son, after we had all these conversations about all this, and I finally accepted I mean, I got a tummy tuck and I got my boobs lifted and all that. I spent so much money and so much recovery time on this fucking, these surgeries to make myself feel better and look better and all this stuff. And I'm like and then you want me now, you want me to get pregnant again. Fuck you Like you had your opportunity to to do that and you told me no, no, no, no, no. And now I think you only want to have kids with me, because you see that, like I'm kind of at the end here, right?
Speaker 2:And.
Speaker 1:I want to leave and you think it's going to keep me here. So I was like no it's not happening.
Speaker 2:He's trying to trap you.
Speaker 1:Yeah, so no, I'm not doing that, so thank God.
Speaker 2:Thank.
Speaker 1:God, I didn't do that because that would have been awful. Yeah, god, because, especially because I don't think that he's a good dad. I don't think he's a good dad to his daughters and I. He was never a good stepdad to my son and I would have had a really hard time co-parenting with him. Yeah, and I have such an easy time co-parenting with Bentley's dad.
Speaker 2:Yeah, thank god yeah, it's tough to. I mean, I know you're devastated in the beginning and then you know at the end you're just like thank god and imagine having another kid.
Speaker 2:God's plan was god shut up, yeah, but really like that turned out well yeah it did because, who knows if he, because he was gonna have to leave anyways, so what was gonna have to leave anyways? So what was gonna have to happen here? If you guys had kids like I guess his I would have just kept the kid, yeah for sure, but then he would have been in your life still. Yeah, yeah. So that's for hell along forever that sounds awful.
Speaker 1:So awful because, like I said, we don't agree, we do not see eye to eye on parenting, what like? On almost anything about parenting, we are so opposite. It would have been so awful it was already so awful like having my son here and then having him trying to parent him, even though he's not his fucking parent, and then, when his daughters would be here, and it's hard for me to bite my lip because how he's parenting, especially because I parent very similar to his ex-wife, and so I had a hard time with his daughters being here and knowing like she would not appreciate what's happening here either.
Speaker 1:This is really hard. So, yeah, having a kid with him would have been the worst decision of my life well, thank god, he helped you out in one way yeah, thank god for the air force for sending his ass to oklahoma. Yeah, or illinois. He went to illinois and now he's in oklahoma. Yeah, what a dick.
Speaker 2:Weird, weird times well, this is a weird one.
Speaker 1:This is a weird one, it's like a mix yeah, well, we talked about hunting wives and we talked about being worshipped for our mind and our mouth.
Speaker 2:I want to be worshipped for my pussy.
Speaker 1:You do, I think I want to get labiaplasty. I don't. You got some meat curtains down there, I mean just like a little and it bothers me, like I just don't appreciate the look. Oh, I don't appreciate the look of it and I go well, it could be better, we could just tighten this up a little bit. And then I told Mr Money about that and he was like that's the most stupid thing, what.
Speaker 2:I mean, do whatever makes you feel good, do whatever.
Speaker 1:Yeah, he was kind of like that's what you're thinking about like who?
Speaker 2:even cares about that. Yeah, I mean most guys, for the most part they don't give a fuck about anything. That is a hole that they stick in to get their poison out. Ew, they don't give a shit. But yeah, I mean, I can't say if I had some meat cartons I wouldn't want to get rid of them too you know, I'm just like I mean, yeah, if it was like something crazy I'd for sure get it.
Speaker 1:Yeah, I feel like sometimes I go. I don't know, maybe I just want this to look a little better, but also because I'm dating again it's yeah, because it all goes back to a lot. Oh well, you know, because I mean you're dating, you gotta take all these nudes and shit, you gotta do all this stuff and then, I feel like it's in the beginning.
Speaker 1:You're just like, oh, you're having all this sex and just like they want to do all this stuff, and you're like, fuck, yeah, you gotta try and keep it together, literally, literally. Keep the lips together. Yeah, keep them in.
Speaker 2:There can't just be flopped open like that yeah, don't shove your puss out.
Speaker 1:I want to say I'm not going to say this just say it no, I'm not going to say this okay. I'll tell you after, okay, because I don't know, I don't want all my shit out there. Yeah, okay. Well, this has been a fun and weird episode.
Speaker 2:Hope you enjoyed it.
Speaker 1:Hopefully you guys are getting worship for your mind and your mouth as well.
Speaker 2:And your pussy.
Speaker 1:And if you have puss flaps who cares, very normal Fly away.
Speaker 2:Yeah, I hope they fly on your husband's tongue and he really gets in there and just fucking licks that shit up. Lick every side and crevice all in there. You're disgusting Get in there, get your puss licked and make sure it's a good time for you.
Speaker 1:Have a great day and let go and let God.
Speaker 2:God's plan. Remember that.
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Speaker 2:I know, I'm just kidding. We do not have a website, by the way. No, we have a tiny URL. It will check Tiny URL.
Speaker 1:Oh God Okay.
Speaker 2:Yeah, we do. Yeah see, uh, and we'll see you guys next time. Hope you're having fun. Tits up, dicks out and pussy lips out.