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UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders
Every leader has an UH-OH moment. The great ones know how to turn those moments into momentum.
In UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders, Dr. Troy Hall and Ben-Jamin Toy chat with industry experts for candid, high-stakes confessions regarding their most crucial leadership mistakes. We peel back the curtain on the errors that cost time, money, and trust, and more importantly, we map out the exact steps taken to fix them.
Designed for emerging leaders and seasoned executives alike, this podcast is your weekly guide to building emotional resilience, fostering cohesive teams, and leading with a strong, ethical backbone. Stop fearing the UH-OH and start mastering the recovery.
UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders
The Cost of Scaling Too Fast: A Leadership Lesson
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In this episode of UH-OH Conversations with Cohesive Leaders, hosts Dr. Troy Hall and Ben-Jamin Toy sit down with Ryan DuBois, a laid-back endurance junkie with a sharp business mind and a heart for people. From scaling up startups across the Southeast to spending 20-hour days in the trenches of manufacturing, Ryan brings a no-fluff, deeply human perspective to what leadership actually looks like when the pressure is on.
Ryan opens up about his biggest “UH-OH” moment: an aggressive expansion that pushed his team (and himself) to the brink. What followed wasn’t just a production slowdown, but a full-on leadership reset. By pulling back, focusing on lean principles, and prioritizing team readiness over output, he learned the hard truth: if your people aren’t ready, your business isn’t either.
Throughout the conversation, Ryan hits on key leadership insights like why every organization is in the people business, how transparency builds trust, and what qualities actually matter when promoting from within. From intentional conversations to endurance mindsets, he makes a strong case for slowing down long enough to build something that lasts.
Whether you're a founder moving fast, a team leader navigating culture shifts, or just someone trying to be a better human at work, this podcast episode is your reminder that leadership starts with listening, learning, and being willing to go the long way for the right reasons.
Hear real-time stories from leaders confessing their most crucial or recent "UH-OH" experiences in business. Learn what their "UH-OH" cost them, steps they took to fix it, and how they planned not to "do that one" again. Hosted by Dr. Troy and Ben-Jamin Toy.
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